Your body was never designed to carry success at the expense of your health.

In this episode of She Wears the Pants, Ashley Deland is joined by Taylor Smeenk, CEO and founder of Empact Wellness and certified functional medicine practitioner. Together, they unpack what it really takes for high-growth women to build extraordinary businesses while protecting their nervous systems, hormones, energy, and long-term health.

This conversation explores the hidden cost of burnout culture, the connection between emotional stress and physical symptoms, and why so many ambitious women normalize exhaustion, anxiety, inflammation, and chronic dysregulation without realizing their bodies are asking for help.

If you’re a woman who has been pushing through stress, overriding your body, or carrying the weight of leadership while silently feeling depleted, this conversation will help you reconnect to your health, your intuition, and the root causes behind what your body has been trying to communicate.

In this episode, you’ll learn how to:

• Identify the hidden signs your nervous system is chronically overwhelmed

• Understand root-cause healing instead of relying on symptom management alone

• Support your body through simple daily practices that improve energy, digestion, and resilience

• Recognize how stress, mold toxicity, inflammation, and emotional suppression impact long-term health

• Build healthier boundaries, routines, and support systems as a high-performing woman

• Approach healing through a whole-body lens that includes physical, emotional, mental, and energetic health

By the end, you’ll walk away with a deeper understanding of how your body communicates, why your health deserves your attention now, and what it looks like to lead your life and business from a regulated, nourished foundation.

Meet Taylor

Taylor Smeenk is a certified functional medicine practitioner, chiropractor, and founder of Empact Wellness. Through her clinic and virtual practice, she helps women uncover the root causes behind chronic symptoms, nervous system dysregulation, hormone imbalances, mold toxicity, inflammation, and burnout through a deeply holistic approach to healing.

Website: Empact Wellness

Website: Dr. Taylor Smeenk

Instagram: @taylor.smeenk

Instagram: @empactwellness

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Ashley Deland: Welcome back to She Wears the Pants, the place where high-growth women come to build companies that match their calling. I'm your host, Ashley Deland. And today's conversation is one I've been really looking forward to because we're stepping into a space that every founder touches at some point, whether she acknowledges it or not, and that is her health.

I'm joined today by Taylor Smeenk, CEO and founder of Empact Wellness and certified functional medicine practitioner. And Taylor's work is rooted in something much deeper than traditional healthcare. She focuses on root cause diagnosis and whole body interventions, looking at the body, the mind, and the spirit as an integrated system and not just separate pieces.

And what I respect most about her work is that it's not just clinical, it's also personal. Her entire approach has been shaped by her own lived experiences with injury, with illness, and witnessing firsthand what happens when health is approached holistically versus reactively.

She's now building something much bigger than a practice. She's building a healthcare ecosystem that challenges the way we think about aging, resilience, and personal responsibility in our own health.

And today we're going to explore what that really means, especially for women who are building at very high levels.

Taylor, I am so happy that you're here. Welcome.

Taylor Smeenk: Thank you. What an introduction. I'm so happy to be here.

Ashley Deland: I clearly have a lot to say about you.

So I want to start a little bit with your story because I know so much of your work today is rooted in what you have personally walked through.

So can you take us back to the beginning and how that led you into functional medicine?

Taylor Smeenk: Absolutely. Yeah. So I grew up in a family where both of my younger siblings had a lot of health challenges.

So as a young kid, I was just sort of brought to those appointments and I was an innocent bystander.

And it wasn't until after university, when I was in chiropractic school, where I started experiencing my own health challenges.

I had five concussions in a two-year period of time. Absolutely. At chiropractic school, which is a very heavy program.

And that sort of spiraled from there. Right. So it was like, I had the mechanical issues. I was seeing a chiropractor. I was also working as a health coach with a functional medicine practitioner.

So she was supporting me through my concussion care in that aspect, but that then triggered, I was diagnosed with stage one cervical cancer. And then the medical system basically just wants to cut it out and then give you vaccines.

And thankfully, I already had those resources to know that I wasn't going to go down that route. I, of course, did the procedure, but I'm not just going to take vaccines and hope and pray that it never comes back.

It's like, let's actually figure out why your terrain allowed this to develop in the first place.

And then I was in chiropractic school sort of at the very beginning of COVID is when I graduated. So during my internship year, I had basically just come off of healing myself from those things, and then I started developing awful hormonal acne along my jawline.

But I was wearing a mask eight to ten hours a day. I had never had a cavity in my life. Then I was told I had five cavities.

And so again, I'm learning all the different aspects of functional medicine and how holistic dentistry has a role in that.

And the bacteria that causes cavities are anaerobic. So I'm wearing a mask every day. That means they don't need bacteria or oxygen to survive.

So obviously, I'm not getting cavities because I'm eating sugar.

Ashley Deland: Yeah. Yeah.

Taylor Smeenk: Right. There's something more to this. And then that's driving the acne.

And so it was discovering even further down that road.

And so as soon as I graduated chiropractic school, started my practice, I also enrolled and did the full functional medicine certification.

Ashley Deland: Yeah. And going off of that, at what point did you really just understand that chiropractic care and functional medicine were not just actual supportive tools, but the path that is going to create real change in people's lives?

Taylor Smeenk: I think it was honestly my own wake-up calls because I had seen it in my family members.

My sister was bedridden for almost 10 years on many medications, and functional medicine has now led her down. She's on zero medications. She's an engineer on a sailboat sailing the world. She needs no assistance.

And that was fantastic to witness, and I'm so happy for her. But when I actually went through it myself and started learning, especially the emotional, the energetic ties, just as a woman having self-respect and setting boundaries and how that interplays with your health, it's just so interconnected.

Ashley Deland: It really is.

And I don't think that enough people out there understand that trifecta because when you speak to me or to anybody about supporting people from all angles, I know you are referring to the mental, physical, internal, even spiritual, because you literally prescribe Reiki and NLP.

But for someone who's listening, who's feeling really overwhelmed by even that statement, what does that mean?

How do you define true whole body health in a way that makes it feel almost accessible for them?

Taylor Smeenk: It's a great question. And it's something I have spent a lot of time thinking about how to communicate because it is difficult to communicate that. Right.

So I think it's important to meet people where they're at.

Ashley Deland: Yes.

Taylor Smeenk: And to really listen to people.

And of course, as a practitioner, you're going to find the hidden underlying things as you're letting people speak, but to truly listen to people.

And often there will be one prominent thing. If it's like, “I'm really struggling with anxiety and my mental health,” or “I'm really struggling with going to the washroom,” that is one thing that typically sticks out, which is what will make somebody reach out for help.

Ashley Deland: Interesting.

Taylor Smeenk: So then you still listen to that and really get a good understanding of what's going on in that first capacity.

But then, as a healthcare practitioner, we're trained to ask probing questions and understand, what else could be driving that? What else in your health history has contributed to that developing?

And making sure that all of those angles are covered and supported.

Ashley Deland: Because traditional healthcare in Canada, to me, is upside down. And I think a lot of people listening would agree with that because it's more of a bandaid approach where, “I have anxiety, here's a pill,” but that pill is actually doing more harm than good.

Where functional medicine, I'm going to lean into this word a lot during our conversation, is the root cause, because even that feels like a taboo word, a taboo saying, like, root cause of it.

And I want to dive deeper into it, but I'll speak from my own personal journey with you. Any kind of anxiety that I was having, or currently any kind of neurological issues that I'm having, it is actually hand in hand with mold within my body, which I would never put those two things together unless I was going to somebody who was actively trying to find the root cause to all of this.

And I think it's really, really important that people are like, “Oh, I can't poop properly,” but it's so much more than that.

Can you define root cause in the simplest way? Because I think it's important for people to digest what it really means.

Taylor Smeenk: Definitely. So the simplest way I could define root cause is what the trigger is, what triggered that cascade of events to happen.

And it is complicated because I think the body whispers before it screams.

And so we're often being given really subtle signs for a long time that something may be off, but we're not really paying attention to it.

Or we're like, “Oh, I'm just 35 now. So that's just what's happening.”

And then all of a sudden one day, it's like, “No, I can't ignore this, and I need help.”

So does that kind of help explain that? Because without getting into the science stuff, there's so many potential different root causes, right?

But there's always a trigger to make your cells go down that pathway of disease.

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Ashley Deland: Do you have a book? Because right away as you're talking, one of the books that really changed my life was When the Body Says No by Gabor Maté.

Do you have a book that people could possibly lean towards that you would recommend? Because I feel like a lot of people are perhaps getting these whispers and it's like, nope, sorry, we're not in perimenopause yet. Like I thought I was, it's like, you actually need some serious shit done.

So what is a book or something, a resource that you can guide them towards to just kind of learn more about it without getting too scientific?

Taylor Smeenk: I do love The Body Keeps the Score by Bessel van der Kolk. Gabor Maté has a few books. There's also The Myth of Normal by Gabor Maté, which is a fantastic book.

I also really do like Mark Hyman, Dr. Mark Hyman's books. He was one of the founders of the Institute of Functional Medicine, and he's very well known now. I'm sure most of the women have heard his name.

But his early books are really helpful. His later books are a little bit more general, right? But his earlier books are quite helpful with that.

Ashley Deland: Amazing. Okay. Give me a real-life example. Again, without going too clinical, because I know firsthand, and I'm going to say this again a few times, what it is like to work with you.

And I personally scream your name in a lot of rooms because it has been transformational. And I don't really throw around that word in my own personal life often.

But you are the reason that I have been able to accomplish the sheer depth that I have in this past year. And I'm still signed, like literally for those listening, just saw Taylor earlier this week as well so that she can fuel my body for the next big load I'm about to take on.

But without going too clinical, can you share a story or an example? It can even be me if you just don't want to bring anybody else into it, of someone who came to you after really feeling overlooked by whomever was trying to support them in that healthcare and what actually changed for them?

Taylor Smeenk: Yeah, definitely. So I'm not going to use you. I have a different person that I'll use. It's too complicated.

So this woman is a mother, has a family business, two teenage children. She is a type one diabetic, been diagnosed with Hashimoto's for years, and always sort of circling the drain with, “Can't get a handle on my sugars. My thyroid keeps bouncing up and down. Nothing's really working. I'm on these medications, but nothing's settling.”

And she came to me, and she actually came to me for frozen shoulder is why she came in.

Ashley Deland: Yeah.

Taylor Smeenk: So that was when I was primarily a chiropractor. She came in for frozen shoulder, and I started asking a bunch of questions.

There is a strong link between type one diabetes and frozen shoulders, but there was so much else going on.

And so first we looked at blood work, and I started giving her recommendations, mostly with nutrition and stress management.

And then she was like, “I really want to do more. I'm starting to feel a little bit better, but how can we really reverse this?”

She's like, “You're saying that I could reverse this. So what can I do?”

So then we did the comprehensive labs. We did an organic acids test. We did a stool test to look at her microbiome and constantly staying on top of blood work.

And she is exactly mold toxicity. So I asked her, “Have you been exposed to mold in your life? Because your fungal and mold markers are off the charts.”

And mold can drive... Mold hides in your cells, in your tissues, in your nervous system, and it can drive so much of this inflammation.

And she was like, “Yeah, actually my basement is covered in mold, but I'm in a rental. I don't really want to move. My kids go to school here.”

There were so many factors. Mold is such a difficult thing because it's often in your furniture. If it's in your house, it's being blown around your vents. It's kind of everywhere.

And so she did get herself out of that, and we did a lot of work. I've been working with her for some time.

And I think that's important to understand too. When things have been building like this silently for so long, it does take time to draw it out, and there's so many layers to it, right?

It's like, well, when you have the fungal, then your microbiome and your gut goes off. And so then you're not actually absorbing nutrients, and now you're deficient in iron and your B vitamins, and your energy is crashing.

And then you can't handle stress because you don't have the capacity. You don't have the energy reserves.

And she's made leaps and bounds. It's incredible.

Ashley Deland: Super happy to hear that for her.

I think what I have realized through functional medicine and the kind of, I guess, concierge holistic work that you do is that it is so much of a co-partnership. It's a co-creation.

And if anybody out there is like, “I have X, Y, Z going on,” taking those tests that, if I'm not mistaken, I don't think traditional doctors can prescribe that.

Taylor Smeenk: No.

Ashley Deland: Taking those OATs, the Zoomies, all of them, they have the cutest little names, really gets you a deep inside look into what is going on.

I could not recommend it more because from the outside, we're just like, “Oh, I have migraines,” or, “I'm feeling a little bit of anxiety,” or, “I have Hashi’s,” but there's so much going on within you internally.

And you have to take control of that and then put it in somebody's hands who can be like, this is what needs to be done.

But it really is a co-creation.

Taylor Smeenk: Definitely. Yeah, definitely.

Ashley Deland: So you work primarily with a lot of high-performing women, and that is technically the people that we are speaking to right now.

And I've heard you say before that in the population of high-performing women, they often just kind of, and this was me too, they often just kind of push through what their bodies are trying to communicate.

So beyond that, I want you to speak to the woman listening in this population specifically.

And besides, I know it's individual, but besides the more generalized, like can't take a proper bowel movement or anxiety, what are some main things that the body is trying to communicate to this specific population that need to be addressed?

That is your sign and your trigger to go see somebody like you.

Taylor Smeenk: Yeah. Well, what did I say to you the other day? It's no longer cool to push through.

Ashley Deland: Yeah. The stress is no longer cool.

Taylor Smeenk: Yeah. Yeah, that is true.

I'm the same way, and it's almost like we wear it as a badge of honor. It's like, yeah, of course I have my period, and of course I have cramps, and of course I'm tired, and of course I have anxiety, but I feel like I'm going to throw up and I'm just going to do it anyway. Right?

And there's certainly a time and a place for that situationally.

But I think the main thing is that if that is your every day, that's a problem. Right?

If there's one thing, if you're about to speak on stage and you're experiencing the nerves and you feel like you're going to throw up or pass out or something, right?

But if you're waking up like that every day, or if you're even feeling that every single day, that is when you really got to do something about that.

And then not going to the washroom, not pooping, that's just the downstream effect.

Your nervous system isn't ever coming down to an idle to actually allow that part of your nervous system to function.

Ashley Deland: I think we all pendulum swing.

I think we all really subscribe to the burnout culture at one point in time and the sheer weight of women in this generation, having to hold so many titles and be moms and make nine plus figures and have your own bricks and mortar.

It's actually costing women so much more than just stress or financial. This is nervous system damage.

Taylor Smeenk: That matters.

It's silent, right? That's the biggest thing is that I could look around a room, and I know I've spoken to a lot of those women, so I know what they're dealing with.

But looking at them, you would have no idea. It's not like these women have acne, right? It's not like these women look really bloated.

You can't see any of this stuff that's happening on the inside.

Ashley Deland: Even myself, I get told all the time, “You're so confident. You always have your stuff all together.”

And I'm like, if you only knew.

Taylor Smeenk: Yeah.

Ashley Deland: It is so true.

I actually want to lean into that a little bit because you have really created an ecosystem here, and we haven't really spoken about Empact at all.

So talk to me about the moment that you really decided to push the needle forward on Empact Wellness and creating this new healthcare kind of ecosystem and what Empact really represents and what it offers as well.

Taylor Smeenk: That's definitely a personal story.

My friends used to see me at the end of my workday, and they'd be like, “You need to figure this out because you are drained. There's no life left in you.”

And when I really sat down with it, I realized I was trying to be everything for everyone.

Ashley Deland: Yeah.

Taylor Smeenk: Right. I always knew, okay, I need to help this person with their mental health. I need to help this person with their physical injuries. I need to help this person with all the internal systems of their body.

But there are quite literally people for each of those pillars, right? And they are amazing and well-educated specifically in that area.

So that is when I started to hire.

My first hire was a psychotherapist, and my second hire was a naturopath. And then after that, it was a massage therapist.

And that allowed me to create a team where when I knew that somebody was struggling with their mental health, I said, “You have to work with Julia. She's fantastic.”

And if it was that they're struggling with something with their physical health, I'm going to help you with the functional medicine side, so you see this person for the manual work. Right?

Because I can do it all, but it burns me out when I try to do it all.

So let me focus on my strength, and then let's lean on each other as a team.

And that's kind of how Empact came to be.

I sort of just randomly started hiring. I didn't have a brand or a name or anything. I don't have a business background.

I just was like, I see this massive gap in our healthcare system, and I know I need to fill it. So let's just kind of do this.

Ashley Deland: Yeah. I'm going to argue against you because you had such a clear vision on what you wanted to build.

And even though it didn't, quote unquote, look like a traditional business plan or traditional business path, you acted before you were ready, and that's one of the key ingredients in becoming an unstoppable, obviously, female founder.

Okay. So not for anything, Empact is thriving right now. You're so humble. Literally thriving.

And you as a functional medicine practitioner are doing incredibly well.

So we've had this shift in the past two years, you opening up a bricks and mortar, hiring on a team, really leaning into functional medicine practitioner.

And I want to ask you, as someone who is an expert in it, how have you had to personally change your own life to protect your own energy and capacity with all this expansion?

Taylor Smeenk: Yeah, huge.

The first thing that comes to mind is being extremely selective with who I spend time with.

Ashley Deland: Yes.

Taylor Smeenk: And that was really difficult for me.

I've always been a people pleaser. I used to wear a badge of honor that I could just go with the flow.

That's not me anymore. I can't go with the flow, and I really fight against people pleasing.

So learning to set boundaries was massive. And that's difficult, especially with people who are close with you.

And learning to delegate, to actually trust and release and be like, okay, let go. I can trust that the systems I've created are strong and will hold me up and actually propel me forward was another big thing.

And just really diving so deep into self. My morning time is structured in a way that I pour so much into myself because I pour out the rest of my day to my patients and to my community.

So that was a big shift.

When my friend said that to me years ago, okay, I started hiring and stuff. I learned Reiki, so I became certified in that.

I learned how to actually shield and protect my own energy, and I do that every single day before I enter the clinic because there has to be a barrier.

There has to be, right? A lot of the time, I'm physically touching people.

But that morning piece, pouring into myself, and then even saying no, setting boundaries.

If I'm exhausted after work, I'm going to cancel.

Ashley Deland: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Tell me about your morning routine.

So I'm going to ask you two questions to give some bite-sized pieces for people to actually implement into their own life.

Because I think we talk about morning routines. Yours is spot on, very similar to mine.

Let's literally guide them into, here it is as a whole, take what you need.

Taylor Smeenk: Okay. So the very first thing I do is I check in with myself. Right?

I often do this even while I'm still laying in bed, just kind of like, okay, how am I feeling today?

Because there were periods of time where I was waking up extremely stressed, and then I can't do the same thing every day. Right?

But I kind of have buckets to pull from.

So check in with myself, do a brain dump journal if I need to, or go out for a walk. And I often talk out loud while I'm walking.

I always move my body, though. I always, always move my body.

So I have a non-negotiable five-to-ten-minute movement routine that I do every single day, no matter where I am.

And then if I am feeling great and I want to work out, I will go do a workout, primarily lifting weights.

If I'm feeling medium, maybe I'll just go for a walk that day. And some days maybe I'm just sitting in meditation.

Ashley Deland: Love that. Brain dump. Movement.

Taylor Smeenk: Yeah. Eating. I always have time for a proper breakfast.

Ashley Deland: Yeah.

Okay, the second tidbit I want them to walk away with is what are some simple implementations that they can put into their day to start nourishing back their body?

You mentioned to me specifically getting the bile activated with a shot of olive oil or the water that I have to implement before the coffee with the salts.

So what are three or four things that, on a general scale, people can start implementing just to start feeling a little bit better in their lives?

Taylor Smeenk: Okay. Number one, if the first thing that touches your lips in the morning is coffee, that's a problem.

Please drink water before coffee. Like one glass of water, putting a sprinkle of sea salt.

So either Celtic salt or Redmond's Real Salt are my go-tos. It's awesome because it allows the water to actually get into your cells to hydrate, so you're not just peeing it out.

So that is definitely number one.

Number two, I'm actually going to say take some breaths before you eat.

I understand that we can't all have 30 minutes to eat lunch every day, right? Maybe it's 15. But give yourself that time.

Close your computer. Don't be scrolling on your phone. Really allow your nervous system to come down.

Even if you are go, go, go all day, you can't avoid that a lot of the time. Right?

But just for your meal times, sit down. Take, let's say, three to five slow deep breaths before your meal.

Chew 20 to 40 times per bite. Put your fork down in between bites. Take, breathe. Don't just scarf the food down.

And again, take some breaths at the end of your meal before you rush back. It's just a moment to pause, and you can stack on that.

Because then those moments you can even check in with yourself. There's a reason why traditionally you sit down with your family and you say grace before your meal and you talk about your day, what were your highs? What were your lows?

But we don't all have the luxury of doing that with people every day, but you can do that with yourself.

Ashley Deland: I couldn't agree more.

Okay, last two questions here.

I'm really trying to empower the listener in her at this point in time to take action in her own life. And we've given them some tangible takeaways, the bite-sized pieces.

But for someone who's listening who knows that she's been overriding her body for a while — again, primarily my audience — what do you want her to actually hear today?

Not as a practitioner, but literally as a woman who has lived through the stresses, the expectations, the weight of carrying a team and a business.

Almost like an affirmation, mantra, words of encouragement. What do you want her to hear today from you?

Taylor Smeenk: You're not crazy, and it's not normal to feel that way.

That buzz that can't calm down every single day, it's not normal to feel that way.

Ashley Deland: Yeah. And there are people out there like you who can support them to come back into a place of balance and groundedness.

Taylor Smeenk: And also, it's so powerful to allow yourself to be vulnerable in that way. Right?

You don't have to hold it all together all the time.

I'm sure a lot of the listeners have great girlfriends who you can vent to, and you can get your problems off your chest.

But I find health things are so much more... we keep them so much closer to our chest, and we protect it. Right?

So just know that it's so empowering. Let yourself cry. Let yourself express. Let yourself ask for help.

Because I really do think a lot of us, it's like, yeah, sure, I learned how to delegate and I have a team and we all work towards the things together.

But with our health, it tends to be so much more guarded.

Ashley Deland: Yes. Agreed.

Okay, our signature She Wears the Pants question.

Looking back on your journey of wearing the pants, what message do you want to relay for future generations of women in business?

Taylor Smeenk: Trust yourself. Start before you're ready.

And it doesn't have to be perfect. In fact, it's not going to be perfect, and you're always going to refine it.

And that's part of the fun. It's part of the process. It really, really is.

Learning to love the process, right? It's not the destination.

Ashley Deland: Agreed.

Okay, so I'm going to encourage you to not sell your services because we never sell here, but again, I just know the transformation that has happened here.

So for people who want to come to Empact and for people who, I encourage, want to work with you on functional medicine, talk about your packages, talk about Empact, tell people how you can be of service to them.

Taylor Smeenk: Yes, amazing.

So my functional medicine work is virtual. I work with people all over the world. So you don't have to be in Canada.

If you are, and if you're close to the Burlington area, I would love to see you in person and welcome you into Empact.

We have such a great team here who can support so many different angles.

And of course, I'm happy to do that from a functional medicine.

I think one of my greatest gifts in the functional world is decoding the labs. It's the feedback I always get.

It's like, no one has made sense of it the way you have, because I really am gifted at seeing the whole picture come together.

Ashley Deland: Yes.

Taylor Smeenk: And I think the way that I can interpret labs, and I really try to empower people.

I want you to look at your lab with me, and we're going to go through it step by step. And I'm going to help you understand that.

And I find that so empowering because when you actually understand, like, oh my God, I am feeling that way because that, that, and that, it becomes so much more manageable.

It doesn't feel like the problem is insurmountable anymore. Right?

And then, at the same time, I say the first thing we're going to do is this, then we're going to move through this.

I walk you through the phases so that you really understand the work that's going to go into it.

Ashley Deland: And the process.

But it's a kit delivered to your door, you do the test, you send it back, T gets the results, and then we have, for us, because I'm local, a 90-minute session where I'm in there and we're going over all of the results, which are so in depth.

I'm able to ask questions in real time, gain understanding, and really put the puzzle pieces together of, oh, this is why this is happening because of X, Y, Z.

And from there, a few days later, you send a very detailed protocol of everything from energetics to supplements, to food, to what we are working on in phases.

And it is so helpful because this isn't something that you have to dive into. It's not something that you almost have to add to your to-do list or your plate.

It's so manageable, and you make these micro steps that turn into macro results.

And it's why I'm such an advocate for it because the last thing I have is any time to do more. And this is just so, so, so manageable.

And I also want to know what's going on in my body.

So empactwellness.com. Yes?

Where can they find you personally on IG and Empact on IG?

Taylor Smeenk: Taylor at taylor.smeenk. And my personal website is drtaylorsmeenk.com. And then at Empact Wellness, empactwellness.com.

Ashley Deland: Amazing.

And that's S-M-E-E-N-K.

Taylor Smeenk: Yeah, the Dutch name that no one can pronounce.

Ashley Deland: Okay, my love, thank you so much for sharing your infinite knowledge, your space, your energy, and your time with us today.

You are just a valuable part of my own personal board of directors, and I feel like you are really going to land some serious truth bombs in women's bodies today after this.

So thank you so much for being here.

Taylor Smeenk: Thank you for having me.