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ComicChams:Black Nerd superhero podcast. My name is Chamar Griffith,
ComicChams:codename ComicChams. And I am Andrew Tejada, codename Arete.
ComicChams:Andrew and I have known each other since 1996 that was the
ComicChams:year Ryan Reynolds appeared in the Sabrina, the Teenage Witch
ComicChams:movie, not the series, the movie as hot guy. Seth, that's his
ComicChams:name. That's his description on Wikipedia. Wow. You know, it's
ComicChams:funny, because I was just thinking about it. For some
ComicChams:reason I feel like Seth was a strong name back in the 90s. For
ComicChams:some weird reason, yeah, that was, like, it was very, maybe,
ComicChams:because close to the Egyptian set, you know, very, that's very
ComicChams:big energy. And now, yeah, I don't, I know, like one. Seth,
ComicChams:now, just one. He's cool. He's cool, though he's the best chef
ComicChams:I know. Shout out to Seth, so that is a tongue twister, but
ComicChams:yes, shout out to Seth, thank you for cooking up everything,
ComicChams:especially hopefully you weren't inspired. Your name wasn't
ComicChams:inspired by the Ryan Reynolds character, that one random
ComicChams:Sabrina Teenage Witch movie. But in today's episode of our
ComicChams:podcast, we are going to be focusing heavily on Ryan
ComicChams:Reynolds, the man, the myth, the legend. I personally like him
ComicChams:because he's he plays the same character in all of his stuff,
ComicChams:so I appreciate the guy that could make that work. Hey, it's
ComicChams:working. It's working from you don't if it ain't broke, but
ComicChams:today we are talking about the character that is probably the
ComicChams:most famous of his as we are talking about the third Deadpool
ComicChams:movie that he made and produced, which is called Once upon a
ComicChams:Deadpool. That's right, we are actually Deadpool actually has a
ComicChams:four movie saga that is not a trilogy. There is actually a
ComicChams:movie in between two and three. Yes, and technically, this is a
ComicChams:two for one review, because we're actually, this is
ComicChams:basically Deadpool two with some extra stuff. So it's, this is
ComicChams:also a review of Deadpool two, yeah. So we had a runtime of 120
ComicChams:minutes. This 2018 film had a very limited release. This is
ComicChams:the first Deadpool movie that is actually rated PG 13, and it was
ComicChams:directed by David Leach, who is the director behind such
ComicChams:productions such as well the the original Deadpool too, uh, Fast
ComicChams:and Furious, Hobbs and Shaw bullet train, atomic blonde and
ComicChams:another recent great film, which is a great love letter to all
ComicChams:the stunt work And stunt people out there who are doing the
ComicChams:things to make us love these superhero movies and action
ComicChams:movies as a whole. Fall Guy, yes, you can definitely tell
ComicChams:it's a David leash movie, because while they do, you know,
ComicChams:he is not afraid of CGI. He definitely tries to do as much
ComicChams:in camera stunt work as possible. So definitely, if you
ComicChams:somehow have not seen any of those, at least one. Go watch at
ComicChams:least one of them. Yeah, I think, I think at some points
ComicChams:this, all of these movies have played in various households of
ComicChams:my I'm not rich. I just meant by like, hopping around to
ComicChams:different family members each they haven't played in at least.
ComicChams:Like two of these movies have played back to back in the house
ComicChams:at any given point. And we got our rider duo here today. We got
ComicChams:Rhett Reese, famous for putting together all three Deadpool
ComicChams:movies, including the recent one, Deadpool and Wolverine.
ComicChams:Don't worry, we're not going to be spoiling any of the film.
ComicChams:I've seen it. Have you seen it? Yeah. Well, yeah, I've seen it.
ComicChams:All I can spoil is, it is now the highest grossing R rated
ComicChams:movie of all time. Yes, yes. It has beaten Joker. It has beaten
ComicChams:Passion of the Christ. At the top of the I'm not gonna say the
ComicChams:line from the movie. So, along with the Deadpool movies, Rhett
ComicChams:also wrote for Zombieland, GI Joe Retaliation and for the kids
ComicChams:in the audience, because today's film wants to play on Deadpool
ComicChams:is a family film at rated at PG 13. He also wrote Tarzan two, as
ComicChams:well as Clifford's really big movie, which is not. Live action
ComicChams:movie, which I think you saw Andrew one time, and you said
ComicChams:that it upsets you to your core. Oh, oh yeah, I've blocked it
ComicChams:out. I've blocked out that movie almost completely that that one
ComicChams:was, there's no time. I'm not getting that time back. And
ComicChams:Rhett worked alongside, once again, Paul Wernick, who also
ComicChams:wrote all the Deadpool movies, along with Rhett, as well as a
ComicChams:lot of his claim to fame, which is basically Big Brother on Big
ComicChams:Brother two, sorry on CBS. Oh the Sure, yeah. It was the most
ComicChams:random thing. I was like, You know what? For a Deadpool movie,
ComicChams:I would not expect less. Um, other fun thing about this
ComicChams:movie, this movie is currently rated at a 56% on Rotten
ComicChams:Tomatoes, and has a similar score amongst the audiences. And
ComicChams:I guess it's more so because of the reason why they cut out a
ComicChams:lot of the stuff that makes it rated R and changes the F word
ComicChams:to family. Yeah. So it's a half and a half whether we're going
ComicChams:to love it or hate it. It's this is ideal for a caper cap. Uh,
ComicChams:right down the middle. Going to the cast list real quick. We got
ComicChams:Ryan Reynolds. Is the Merc of the mouth, aka Deadpool, aka
ComicChams:Wade Wilson. Uh, Josh Brolin was famous at this point amongst
ComicChams:Marvel entirely during these years, because not only was he
ComicChams:playing Thanos in The Avengers movies, he was also cable here
ComicChams:in our movie today. Miranda bachern is Vanessa Carlisle. We
ComicChams:know her more famously on the DC side, but she is here as the
ComicChams:love interest for Deadpool. Julian Denison plays the
ComicChams:embodiment of teenage rage as Russell aka Fire Fist. Stephen
ComicChams:capichi is Colossus. This will be his second time returning
ComicChams:into the role. TJ Miller operates the bar where Deadpool
ComicChams:goes to get a drink at a couple times. So he's the quick tongue
ComicChams:named character named weasel. Oh yes, and let's address this
ComicChams:right away. We know he's canceled. We know. Oh, last news
ComicChams:to me. TJ Miller, you're canceled. Yeah, it really
ComicChams:started with him calling a false bomb threat on a train. Oh,
ComicChams:that's something he did after that. Some other stuff came out,
ComicChams:reports that weren't as substantiated, but he definitely
ComicChams:did that train thing. Um, so he is, we don't he's canceled just,
ComicChams:uh, as we go forward. Just wanted to let us let you know
ComicChams:right away, all right, for the sake of this episode, then, uh,
ComicChams:we will quickly pass by most of the his scenes. And if we need
ComicChams:to reference who he is, we'll just go by weasel Next up,
ComicChams:Brianna Hildebrand returns as Negasonic Teenage Warhead. The
ComicChams:longest named character I feel like I've ever heard of. The
ComicChams:only person that's beating her right now is bakugo in My Hero
ComicChams:Academia. Honestly, we got Leslie Uggams as blind l Caron
ComicChams:Sani as dopender, and finally, coming into this movie to help
ComicChams:help the duo that we have here today, we have zazzy beats as
ComicChams:Domino. All right, with that, let's put in some maximum effort
ComicChams:and watch once upon the Deadpool. So we start
ComicChams:differently from the original Deadpool two opens with an
ComicChams:extended scene of violence, with the Yakuza and Deadpool slicing
ComicChams:it up, but limbs go flying and blood goes not in the PG 13
ComicChams:version. So instead, we open with Fred Savage tied to the
ComicChams:bed. Um, and if, if you have not seen Princess Bride, Fred Savage
ComicChams:was the kid in Princess Bride. The plot of that is that Fred
ComicChams:Savage is sick and sick boy, and his grandpa reads him a story
ComicChams:that he doesn't want at first, but then he gets into it. So
ComicChams:Deadpool does a take on that by tying him to the bed, kidnapping
ComicChams:Fred Savage and forcing him to listen to Deadpool, the story of
ComicChams:Deadpool two read by Deadpool in this fake bedroom set. I do
ComicChams:appreciate that, because I have never actually seeing the
ComicChams:Princess Bride? I mean, it's, it's like, it's one of those
ComicChams:things where it's like, if you didn't see it, right, when you
ComicChams:were a kid, you you see it at age 30. It's one of the other
ComicChams:number, yeah. So, yeah, that's, that's a brief rundown so you
ComicChams:understand, like, what if you haven't seen Princess Bride? Now
ComicChams:you know what they were making fun of the whole time. If you
ComicChams:haven't, then again, I could see why some people immediately were
ComicChams:like, what's going on?
ComicChams:Um, also, sorry, I also forgot to mention the other crazy thing
ComicChams:about this film. Um, technically, this is a Christmas
ComicChams:film. Um, given the fact that was released around Christmas,
ComicChams:all the advertisements had Christmas themes, we will see
ComicChams:how much of a Christmas film this truly is. Um, as we
ComicChams:continue on with Deadpool is introducing the fact that,
ComicChams:because it's PG 13, they're cutting down a lot of stuff, um,
ComicChams:the only even mentioning that the only F word that we're going
ComicChams:to be using in this movie is Fred. So as we mentioned,
ComicChams:opening up to how Deadpool two opened up. Deadpool has been
ComicChams:operating now for about two years. He takes on the the
ComicChams:acousa. He meets up with dopender, who drives him back
ComicChams:the Pinder starts sharing a very heartfelt confession to Deadpool
ComicChams:in which after the events of Deadpool one, so previously on
ComicChams:Deadpool, Dopinder had locked up his love interest, the
ComicChams:competition for his love interest inside the back of his
ComicChams:car. And well, since this is PG 13, we'll just say that this
ComicChams:person did not make it to the sequel. And he says that because
ComicChams:of that, he has this newfound lust for being a part of what
ComicChams:Deadpool does. So he wants to go out there and make a name for
ComicChams:himself. So Deadpool, at first is against this, but eventually
ComicChams:he's like, we'll figure something out. So as Deadpool
ComicChams:heads out the car, he runs up to his apartment, where he's
ComicChams:greeted by Vanessa, because today is their anniversary,
ComicChams:after all the events that happened when they had
ComicChams:separated, and now they're together again, and it's a
ComicChams:wonderful thing where they engage in the kiss. And this is
ComicChams:when Deadpool cuts back to Fred Savage, and it's waiting for him
ComicChams:to say the line. I had to research this because, again,
ComicChams:never saw Princess Bride. Yeah, I could chime in here, too.
ComicChams:Okay, cool. I don't know what I'm talking about here. So the
ComicChams:original Princess Bride, the story the grandfather reads to
ComicChams:Fred Savage. It starts out as heavy focus on romance, but then
ComicChams:it becomes adventure pirates, etc. So at the beginning, before
ComicChams:we get to the adventure part, the grandfather mentioned the
ComicChams:kiss between the two romantic leads, and Fred Savage goes, Is
ComicChams:this a kissing story? Gross. So because Vanessa and Deadpool
ComicChams:kiss, Deadpool was waiting for that line again. That's just, I
ComicChams:don't fear out of it, but that's so now that they're celebrating
ComicChams:their anniversary, they're thinking about, what's it going
ComicChams:to look like for them to expand their family as they're just
ComicChams:running jokes about what name they should have for their kid.
ComicChams:The other thing, though, that does happen is, as Deadpool is
ComicChams:warming up a pop tart while they're watching Barbra
ComicChams:Streisand film and trying to figure out why Papa, can you
ComicChams:hear me? Sounds very much like another Disney song, they
ComicChams:immediately get attacked by the same group of people that
ComicChams:Deadpool was trying to take out earlier in the film. Yes, and
ComicChams:unfortunately, he uses all his knives before the last villain
ComicChams:get there, gets there. He only has a butter knife, and it's not
ComicChams:enough. He misses and Vanessa is shot dead. And this is probably
ComicChams:one of my favorite cutaways to Fred Savage, where he just
ComicChams:immediately screams, you fridged Vanessa. You know, in comic
ComicChams:books, when they kill the female love interest, the development
ComicChams:of the male. You did that, you did that. And it's a great
ComicChams:discussion and a great lampshade because, yes, that's I think,
ComicChams:anyone who has seen Deadpool two, one of the things that
ComicChams:people have disagreed with on it is the decision to kill Vanessa
ComicChams:off for character development, for the plot to happen. So it
ComicChams:was nice to get a shot at that, but it did create a bit of a
ComicChams:problem, because the joke, the joke is great, but it comes
ComicChams:literally in the middle of her dying. So we go back and she's
ComicChams:still dying. So tonally, it kind of ruins the the really gut, the
ComicChams:gut punch you got in the original of that happening is
ComicChams:kind of like because they put a joke right in the middle of it.
ComicChams:Kind of loses its edge a bit. Yeah, I agree. I remember even
ComicChams:watching the movie originally in theaters, and I remember my jaw
ComicChams:drop because I was just like, man, we just spent the entire
ComicChams:previous film of him working towards getting her back, in
ComicChams:after putting himself through all this, all these things in
ComicChams:order to, just to create a life of her. And you know, it gave
ComicChams:Deadpool a strong sense of substance to me, even though it
ComicChams:is one of the most comedic films you could probably watch. So,
ComicChams:yeah, I agree this. Like. In the moment scene, I feel like it was
ComicChams:better served for people like men like you mentioned that I
ComicChams:already saw this happening. And obviously Wade Deadpool is very
ComicChams:upset about this, so he starts chasing after the guy, very much
ComicChams:like Peter Parker chasing after the guy that shot Uncle Ben um.
ComicChams:And you know, you think in that moment, given the fact that
ComicChams:Deadpool is an assassin, given the fact that Deadpool tends to
ComicChams:have no regard for like the villa on the side of things, you
ComicChams:think he will kill this guy. Instead, he embraces him in the
ComicChams:rain, and then turns around to have him get thrown into a
ComicChams:trunk, ultimately killing it, right? Yeah, as we know,
ComicChams:Deadpool heals, so that doesn't really affect him at all, but
ComicChams:it's a great, a great way to dispatch the enemy. And now Wade
ComicChams:is devastated. Doesn't know what to do with his life, so he's
ComicChams:just in the bar all the time with weasel. And this is where
ComicChams:he makes the connection between, do you want to build a snowman?
ComicChams:And gentle, and I, this is one of my favorite jokes. I'm glad
ComicChams:that one made it into the final cut of this, because, yeah,
ComicChams:it's, it's the same song. Go listen to it side by side, Papa.
ComicChams:Can you hear me? Do you want to build us? Well, yep, yep, same
ComicChams:thing. So this point, Wade is just floundering. He dopender
ComicChams:and weasel can't cheer him up. He's just a disgusting mess.
ComicChams:Even buck the the bar patron can't cheer him up, and I do.
ComicChams:I'm glad they circle back to that in the later film about him
ComicChams:not getting any speaking lines. So now just truly, truly lost
ComicChams:Deadpool goes back to his old roommate, blind Al's apartment.
ComicChams:Get some sugar as it's labeled happy sugar right above the cure
ComicChams:for blindness, which is under the floorboards. Great, great
ComicChams:callback. And they have a conversation, and Deadpool is
ComicChams:just he doesn't really know how to go on, so he tries to do
ComicChams:something about that. And we get several gag scenes here that
ComicChams:weren't in the original film. You see a lot of references to
ComicChams:Disney. There's like some characters from up, or at least
ComicChams:like people who try to look like up characters that were in
ComicChams:there. There's like him at a zoo talking with some kids and well,
ComicChams:unfortunately, because of deadpool's Ridiculous healing
ComicChams:factor, anything that he tries to do to himself, he just comes
ComicChams:right back to it. So as he's like, you've seen all these,
ComicChams:like Disney gag scenes taken to a whole new level, he ultimately
ComicChams:decides the best thing to do is to do the same that we saw in
ComicChams:the original film, just to head back to the apartment and just
ComicChams:scorch Earth. The entire place that he's in. The explosion is
ComicChams:enough to send him to the afterlife, it seems. And as he's
ComicChams:floating into this like watery abyss. He comes to a point where
ComicChams:he's standing and he sees off in the distance, in the very
ComicChams:illuminated room, is Vanessa sitting on the chair looking
ComicChams:outside, and he's thinking, this is this is how we're going to
ComicChams:spend the rest of our time together in this afterlife
ComicChams:place.
ComicChams:Yeah, but unfortunately, he cannot cross the barrier to
ComicChams:Vanessa, and Vanessa can only give him the hint that his heart
ComicChams:needs to be in the right place. But that cryptic hint he go,
ComicChams:he's launched back to life, where now Colossus is dragging
ComicChams:him back to the X mansion and here classes, Yukio, Negasonic,
ComicChams:Teenage Warhead, the only 3x Men they can't afford to have
ComicChams:consistently on screen. They all try in their own ways to get
ComicChams:Wade back, but Wade is just not convinced that he is worth the
ComicChams:time and effort we do in the middle of this, while he's
ComicChams:complaining about no X Men, get a fantastic cameo, probably one
ComicChams:of the best cameo of all time, where he complains there's no X
ComicChams:Men, and you turn around and in a room are a bunch of X Men from
ComicChams:the new timeline, closing the door so that Deadpool doesn't
ComicChams:find out about them. This must have been for Dark Phoenix that
ComicChams:they were all assembled for, because I know they had to, like
ComicChams:they had one day to run all these people over from one set
ComicChams:to the other. So I think this is why they were shooting Dark
ComicChams:Phoenix. So Dark Phoenix, it did contribute something positive.
ComicChams:But. Much, that's your one thing. But now, as Wade is
ComicChams:lamenting his he missed a chance for family, we're introducing
ComicChams:another person who really is obsessed with family, and that
ComicChams:is cable. Yeah, I almost thought you meant Dominic Toretto, but
ComicChams:the vibes are similar, because we see that cable enters a room
ComicChams:much like that similar scene where it's just a scorched earth
ComicChams:department. We see that cable enters one as well, and he picks
ComicChams:up a little dusty, burnt up doll. It's a little bear, and as
ComicChams:he picks it up, he attaches it to his gear, he uses his time
ComicChams:travel device and lets out this huge screen, creating now I will
ComicChams:just call the Terminator two effect of this movie, where
ComicChams:basically it's just like he will eventually pop back into the
ComicChams:past. He'll meet some people, and we'll steal some stuff from
ComicChams:them. But before all that happens, of course, Wade is
ComicChams:trying to learn what it's like to to live again. He experiences
ComicChams:much of the domestic life. He starts learning about labeling
ComicChams:foods in the fridge. He even gives Colossus some new soap
ComicChams:that he tells him that if he Well, because this is a PG 13
ComicChams:film, I can say it, if he pumps real hard, he'll get what he
ComicChams:needs to get. I can't believe that joke made it into the PG
ComicChams:13. That's what I'm thinking about, especially when you find
ComicChams:out further later about what was actually in that thing. Yeah,
ComicChams:and I do like, also this cutaway here, there's a Fred Savage who
ComicChams:is like Kate. He gets so excited about cable he breaks down his
ComicChams:origin. I hesitate to say this, but maybe even faster than you
ComicChams:could. You hear me, Fred Savage, I'm pulling you out right now.
ComicChams:We're going to do is a speed run through of origin story. But
ComicChams:that's also a great meta joke that Fred Savage is really
ComicChams:excited about diving into the origins of cable, which they
ComicChams:actually don't do in this movie because it would, I don't even
ComicChams:know how they would be able to do it without confusing the
ComicChams:audience a lot. So yeah, you would need at least 19 years of
ComicChams:X Men films in order to properly and we missed our chance,
ComicChams:people. The window is closed. But in any case, back back with
ComicChams:Deadpool, he is asked to go on a mission with Colossus and
ComicChams:Negasonic, and it is to stop a kid who's calling himself
ComicChams:firefist from just burning everything around him at this
ComicChams:really creepy looking orphanage. And Deadpool arrives, decides to
ComicChams:take the lead, and as he is going up to talk to the kid,
ComicChams:it's here where I realized one advantage of deadpool's costume
ComicChams:is it's extremely easy to overdub lines, because there are
ComicChams:some lines in the original that like, oh yeah, he said this, but
ComicChams:very easy with The suit to just put in, what a PG 13 friendly
ComicChams:version of the line. Real big advantage they had here, also
ComicChams:for the algorithm, real quick, I'm just going to say Fire Fist
ComicChams:a lot, because I figured that this might entice r1 piece fans.
ComicChams:So during the time in which Fire Fist is fighting against the X
ComicChams:Men, of course, he is firefist and solos a lot of these
ComicChams:characters, because they're not expecting for a teenage firefist
ComicChams:to basically knock them around. A lot the people in the
ComicChams:orphanage are trying to trying to calm him down. The orphanage
ComicChams:is actually called the Essex Corporation. It's labeled as a
ComicChams:mutant re Education Center. I'm I know that this is a reference,
ComicChams:and I'm seeing a lot of Mr. Sinister when I was thinking
ComicChams:about this. Unfortunately, I didn't do too much of a deep
ComicChams:dive on this, but I know that this is definitely, it feels
ComicChams:like a connection to that. So as Fire Fist is able to take out
ComicChams:basically Colossus, negatonic Teenage Warhead. And even since
ComicChams:Deadpool flying, where we see another cameo of Hugh Jackman on
ComicChams:a Wheaties box, um Deadpool is able to use his sword as a spear
ComicChams:in order to hit fire fist in the face, and this allows for it
ComicChams:was, it was just a hilt. Oh, this is PG 13 film. So it was
ComicChams:just a hilt. It was the same in the rated R film too, because
ComicChams:that pool don't kill kids. Yeah, it's not this time. So as he is
ComicChams:able to calm down five. Firefist, and he's receiving the
ComicChams:praises of the crowd. Deadpool is loving it. He does know this,
ComicChams:though, that on Russell's neck, there seems to be some bruises,
ComicChams:especially around the collar, the power suppressing collar
ComicChams:that they give him. So this is when Deadpool is just like, You
ComicChams:know what, as an X Men trainee, which is also a running joke
ComicChams:throughout this particular scene, he decides that the best
ComicChams:thing to do is to unalive as many people connected to the
ComicChams:Essex Corporation as possible, because clearly they are
ComicChams:torturing fire fists here at the facility. This leads to Deadpool
ComicChams:being taken out by Colossus and power suppressing collars also
ComicChams:placed on Deadpool, so the two of them are now being
ComicChams:transported to the icebox. Yes, and this is one of the main
ComicChams:points where it's obvious that they have done creative edits
ComicChams:and cuts, probably like pre blood spurt CGI, because when he
ComicChams:does kill people at the facility Deadpool, it is bloodless and
ComicChams:not headshots. So as they're going to prison, we get cable
ComicChams:coming back, coming back to this time period from the future. And
ComicChams:you, and if you did miss this, it's it's completely fine, but
ComicChams:the trucker talking about wiping and toilet paper, that's Matt
ComicChams:Damon. You guys missed that because he's under a lot of
ComicChams:makeup, so he steals the car to head into town. Question about
ComicChams:that? Yeah, is so that's Matt Damon. Was the other guy. Alan
ComicChams:tooth, yes, yes. Okay, yeah. Love these guys because they're
ComicChams:always, they're always so willing to use prosthetics. I
ComicChams:love these guys, yeah, and they, it's such a random conversation
ComicChams:that I think they shorten because it goes on for a long
ComicChams:time the original. So we get back to the prison where, uh,
ComicChams:Russell is really obsessed with trying to kill everyone who
ComicChams:wronged him, and Deadpool really doesn't want any part of it.
ComicChams:He's with the power suppressor. His cancer is coming back
ComicChams:aggressively, so he's just kind of wanting to be left alone it.
ComicChams:And even though Russell really thinks he's good, Deadpool is
ComicChams:like, without this collar on, I'm I have no powers. I'm
ComicChams:basically Hawkeye to the nothing great, one of the great, sorry
ComicChams:man. Um, and this is where they just start having trouble. In
ComicChams:prison, black Tom Cassidy, who is not black, we want to
ComicChams:clarify, attacks them. And after getting beaten to a pulp,
ComicChams:Deadpool says, Hey, while you're here trying to make some new
ComicChams:friends, it's advice that Russell will remember. You know,
ComicChams:in those Telltale Games, Russell will remember that he does. But
ComicChams:right now they don't have time, because cable is here.
ComicChams:Yeah, he enters with a full on force, with the it's, honestly,
ComicChams:it's a great entry. I think it's just seeing it's a great entry
ComicChams:for a character as well, because even though we have seen the
ComicChams:scene where he just got and I picked up the doll and did all
ComicChams:that things, you saw the man, but here we're seeing the the
ComicChams:character, the fictional character, the superpowered
ComicChams:individual, and he's just showing everybody in this as
ComicChams:like he has a mission, and that mission is To kill firefist. So
ComicChams:this is when Deadpool at first is like, I'm well, I don't know
ComicChams:if I should, but he does remember, during a fight scene
ComicChams:that he does have with cable that maybe this is what Vanessa
ComicChams:meant by his heart not being into it and like the idea of
ComicChams:family and everything. So after making some quick jokes about
ComicChams:how cable is too dark, as he's sure that he's not from the DC
ComicChams:Universe, and also, there's an extensive dubstep fight sequence
ComicChams:that uses bangarang by Skrillex. I know this because that song
ComicChams:took over for five years, like 10 years ago. Um, it was a lot.
ComicChams:This song was everywhere, but it is a great fight every YouTube
ComicChams:video now that I'm thinking of it like every YouTube video
ComicChams:ended like that. It was like, did you really make it? If you
ComicChams:did it as bangarang by Skrillex onto yours. Yeah. Years. So as
ComicChams:Deadpool has this extensive fight scene, the collar that he
ComicChams:has also gets broken off. So it does give him a bit of his
ComicChams:healing abilities back. We do see Deadpool get folded in
ComicChams:different ways for the comical sense of things a. Um, literally
ComicChams:and figuratively, yes, and it then eventually leads into, uh,
ComicChams:cable and Deadpool blasting a hole through the wall, and
ComicChams:basically, not quite, but should have causing an avalanche, um,
ComicChams:from where they were and because, thankfully, once again,
ComicChams:Deadpool has this healing factor, but it was at a point
ComicChams:where he was very close to death. He sees Vanessa, and
ComicChams:Vanessa tells him that she he has to save the kid in some way,
ComicChams:shape or form. Yes, so this, um, this inspires Deadpool thinking
ComicChams:about the odds against cable while he's talking to weasel and
ComicChams:Dopinder. They're not only against cable, but they're up a
ComicChams:whole against a whole force of soldiers transporting these
ComicChams:mutants. So decide we need a team. We need some kind of
ComicChams:Suicide Squad. No, they don't say that in the movie, but oh my
ComicChams:god, yeah, this movie the perfect time to use that phrase.
ComicChams:What are we some kind of since that's so he decides to unite DX
ComicChams:force, and this is a great scene of where we have a bunch of
ComicChams:characters coming in and advertising. Also another one of
ComicChams:my top jokes from this movie, where do Pinder tries to get on
ComicChams:the team, and they're like, what's your sewer power? And he
ComicChams:pauses and he says, courage. Just a great, great joke. And
ComicChams:the montage is, is also good Bedlam, being able to distort
ComicChams:your the fields, electric fields, and cause nausea. Who's
ComicChams:acidic guy? Who the acidic? I want to call him spit Viper, but
ComicChams:I know that's not right. It's Bill Skarsgard. That was a
ComicChams:surprising because I was just like, Terry Cruz, I can
ComicChams:definitely see, but Bill Skarsgard, like, what? Yeah,
ComicChams:his, his thing is shooting acidic vomit, and it's just
ComicChams:like, yeah, we've all been to Arby's. I just had to get that
ComicChams:joke out, because I will not be sponsored by Arby's because I
ComicChams:just refuse. I'm sorry. Okay, let me, let me just cancel that
ComicChams:meeting I have with them. I don't want the meats, all right,
ComicChams:I don't want them. Oh my gosh. We also get a shatter star from
ComicChams:Mojo world that that that's a lot. I'm just gonna say that,
ComicChams:because I feel like that's a lot to introduce into this podcast.
ComicChams:Just watch X Men 97 you'll get a sense of mojo world. But my
ComicChams:favorite is definitely banisher. Oh yeah, what other monolog the
ComicChams:screen presence that banisher had amazing just chef's kiss all
ComicChams:the way around. Um, in during this montage, we also get two
ComicChams:quick, yet important scenes that Russell sneaks into a cell
ComicChams:containing the biggest person in the prison and gives them a
ComicChams:pudding, making an alliance. And we also get, uh, cable capturing
ComicChams:weasel. And he gives his great cable, you know, Josh Brolin, so
ComicChams:you know, he can give a great, intimidating speech, and he's
ComicChams:going about all the way he's going to torture weasel, you
ComicChams:know, saying he's going to work through the levels of pain that
ComicChams:you can experience, and we're going to work through it
ComicChams:together. And weasel immediately folds immediately, I will tell
ComicChams:you every I'll tell you everything, but except that
ComicChams:where they are. And he just grunts, and he goes, All right,
ComicChams:let me tell you exactly where they're going to be at what
ComicChams:time. Also, there's a wind advisory. Oh my gosh, it's a
ComicChams:great thing. I think that was one of my favorite scenes of
ComicChams:this film. Just because, like, you always get these, like,
ComicChams:especially in these, like, tough guys superhero kind of stuff,
ComicChams:you always get, like, the torture scene. And it's like,
ComicChams:yeah, man, I didn't break or nothing like that, and this guy
ComicChams:immediately folded. I loved it. It was a nice change of pace.
ComicChams:When, when we when we originally saw it, and even now today, um,
ComicChams:so speaking of that wind advisory, though, we also have
ComicChams:two other characters who are part of the team, who are domino
ComicChams:played by Zazi beats, as I mentioned, great back and forth
ComicChams:between the two of them, because her and Deadpool, because it
ComicChams:really does come into question. Is luck a superpower? We will
ComicChams:find out that it is. And of course, the iconic man himself,
ComicChams:which I gotta commend him, because I was not expecting his
ComicChams:presence. Peter, who basically is just like, You know what I
ComicChams:saw the ad. Here's my headshot. Looks nothing like me, but you
ComicChams:know what? We're gonna You're gonna love having me on this
ComicChams:team. And, yeah, he qualifies you. He does, He beats out
ComicChams:dopender for a role on the team. And this is, of course, one of
ComicChams:the Best Comedic introductions of a team ever, because they
ComicChams:jump out of a plane to get to the convoy, but because of that
ComicChams:wind advisory, they all immediately are blown all over
ComicChams:the place. Most of them die in horrific ways. Vanisher, when he
ComicChams:hits the electric lines, it's revealed that vanisher is
ComicChams:actually Brad Pitt, which Fred Savage is like. How the hell did
ComicChams:you get Brad Pitt and Matt Damon in this movie? And they go on a
ComicChams:very long tangent about fighting Matt Damon, which, oh, they'll
ComicChams:either love or hate. I, I love to see I will say it didn't run
ComicChams:a bit too long, but oh my gosh, it is perfect. I definitely
ComicChams:whoever's listening out there, please get me one of those, like
ComicChams:sensor beat things. I think they're like five bucks. If
ComicChams:you're willing to spend five bucks on my enjoyment, I would
ComicChams:very much appreciate it. It's one of those that goes on for so
ComicChams:long it becomes funny again, or you again, or you just hated it
ComicChams:the whole time. So pretty much everyone dies horrifically. In
ComicChams:wood chippers, in helicopter blades crashing into busses,
ComicChams:except for Domino and Deadpool, who are the only ones to survive
ComicChams:this vicious attack. Oh, Peter also dies getting acid breath
ComicChams:Arby's on him in the middle of it. But now Domino and Deadpool
ComicChams:are off to stop the convoy in the middle of and cable arrives
ComicChams:to attack. And another fun fact is that during when cable is
ComicChams:throwing out prisoners out of the convoy to try to stop
ComicChams:Deadpool from getting on, one of the prisoners he throws out is
ComicChams:the director of the movie, David Leach. Is the first prisoner to
ComicChams:be thrown onto the street. So again, this movie is still full
ComicChams:of like fun Easter eggs in the casting that you'll blink and
ComicChams:you'll miss them. Another person who gets thrown out,
ComicChams:unfortunately, is black, Tom Cassidy, which now creates the
ComicChams:fact, according to Deadpool, that cable is racist. It's an A
ComicChams:plus joke for no reason. So as they're driving around, domino
ComicChams:tries to help. There's also a great scene in which I think, I
ComicChams:don't know if this was the intention, but it did seem very
ComicChams:similar, in which cable does shoot repeatedly at Deadpool,
ComicChams:and Deadpool uses a similar sword swing as he did to India.
ComicChams:What was it? X Men, origins of Wolverine movie, when everybody
ComicChams:was shooting at him. So there's that one point in which he tries
ComicChams:to show that he can slice the bullet. Unfortunately, it does
ComicChams:not work, and they and Kate and Deadpool just basically gets
ComicChams:shot completely up.
ComicChams:And then Domino is able to do something to the truck to make
ComicChams:sure that it doesn't hit too many either parked cars or cars
ComicChams:with passengers, because luck is a superpower that definitely
ComicChams:works. And I'm not saying that sarcastically. I love the fact
ComicChams:that that was a superpower that actually worked. Fortunately,
ComicChams:they were able to crash or turn the truck over. They once
ComicChams:they're all flown out from it. We do see that the last person
ComicChams:who was in that truck who hadn't gotten thrown out was the new
ComicChams:friend that Russell had made. The biggest man in the X Men,
ComicChams:scope of things, not the biggest man in the universe, because we
ComicChams:got Galactus, but whatnot. But my digress, the biggest X Men
ComicChams:villain I think we've ever seen the Juggernaut yes, no, no.
ComicChams:Vinnie Jones, Apocalypse, I'm the Juggernaut bitch here. No,
ComicChams:no, no. Small people here. It's I'm the Vinny Jones is small,
ComicChams:but not juggernaut size. Our most jacked character arrives
ComicChams:and immediately rips Deadpool in half. Literally, the they this
ComicChams:is one of the smartest PG 13 cuts they do, because in the
ComicChams:original you see entrails and blood and everything. But here
ComicChams:they cut right to Fred, savage as the RIP is happening, so it's
ComicChams:less distracting that you don't see it. So Russ as Russ goes for
ComicChams:revenge, Deadpool and his friends reconvene at blind owls.
ComicChams:That's the movie's name, not mine. So just want to clarify
ComicChams:everyone. And as it's revealed that Deadpool is growing baby
ComicChams:legs through. Replaced the legs he had lost. And this is where
ComicChams:Fred Savage brings up a really good question that was not
ComicChams:addressed in the original film, yeah, so if you rip Deadpool in
ComicChams:half, given his regenerative ability, does that mean that
ComicChams:there are now two deadpools. Like, if the top half is the one
ComicChams:we're continuing the story with, does the bottom half continue to
ComicChams:grow and regenerate as well, meaning that there's a Deadpool
ComicChams:out there with their own adventures. Also, it like, to
ComicChams:what extent are we talking about this? Because it's like, how
ComicChams:many deadpools can we? Can we get in one film if he just
ComicChams:continues getting ripped in half? It's a question that even
ComicChams:Deadpool doesn't even have the answer to. Yeah, it's just just
ComicChams:an example of the shoddy, lazy writing, but it's really great
ComicChams:gag, and it quickly is followed by another gag that they
ComicChams:shortened for the PG 13 movie for a lot of reasons, where
ComicChams:Deadpool uncrosses his leg like basic instinct. If you haven't
ComicChams:seen that, I understand it's a very old movie for most of us.
ComicChams:Somehow, actually, I saw that, but not the Princess Bride.
ComicChams:That's a weird programming schedule. Blame. I blame channel
ComicChams:11 and picks. I don't know. This is when cable shows up. Another
ComicChams:great gag of cable showing up. And as Deadpool is talking about
ComicChams:cable, he goes to dopender. He's right behind you, isn't he, and
ComicChams:they turn and see, you know, a good take on the joke, and cable
ComicChams:reveals that in the future, Russ, after killing the people
ComicChams:who abused him, goes on to become a homicidal maniac and
ComicChams:ends up killing cable's wife and daughter as revenge for cable
ComicChams:trying to Take out Russell. So you know, this is a great
ComicChams:parallel between cable and Deadpool. Both of them were
ComicChams:killing people, or at least using force to take out people,
ComicChams:and then their enemies eventually caught up with them
ComicChams:and destroyed their families. So this immediately creates,
ComicChams:despite everything that's happened between the two,
ComicChams:Deadpool can at least understand where cable is coming from right
ComicChams:now, so he agrees to help on a condition. Yeah, I just want to
ComicChams:say too, the main other reason why I love this scene is that
ComicChams:it's scored to the sun will come out tomorrow. I just thought
ComicChams:that was just a clever take, and it's done in this like child
ComicChams:like Wonder I have, I have a thing where I don't like where
ComicChams:in the movie there's like the children are singing these like
ComicChams:songs and these very like dark events, creeps me the heck out.
ComicChams:And like that, to me, added so much more of a scare factor in
ComicChams:this film, that this entire time, when watching Russell in
ComicChams:this whole experience that he was in with Deadpool, I was
ComicChams:like, Oh, well, you know, maybe he's not going to be that bad as
ComicChams:whatever. He's just this kid trying to learn how to navigate
ComicChams:the world after everybody had thrown the worst at him. And
ComicChams:then you see what that turns out to be. And I think this was made
ComicChams:specifically for people like me who, like they hear, like the
ComicChams:children singing the songs and the creepy scenarios, and just
ComicChams:like we're gonna intensify the fear and the danger that's
ComicChams:coming with this scene. So I think that tying having that
ComicChams:particular scene. And as you mentioned, tying the fact that
ComicChams:it's just like how similar cable and Deadpool stories are, it was
ComicChams:to me, a masterclass in like, showing how much of a force that
ComicChams:Russell is. Because not only is he just like connecting these
ComicChams:two individuals now, but he's also creating a true villain for
ComicChams:this movie when we never even saw him as a villain. Yeah, it's
ComicChams:really, it's a really brilliant of, like a nature versus nurture
ComicChams:thing. And, you know, even though the first movie was all
ComicChams:about whether Deadpool could be a hero or not, and ultimately,
ComicChams:the decision was he is a killer. He's not exactly a hero, but
ComicChams:he's not a villain either. He's not something, someone they have
ComicChams:to worry about as much. So it's a great it's a great evolution
ComicChams:for his character to in this movie. Have to deal with someone
ComicChams:who also is right on the precipice of going bad or good.
ComicChams:So it's really good that he is here to mentor that kind of
ComicChams:person. It's a really great evolution of the character, and
ComicChams:shows how really, even though it does seem like a silly parody
ComicChams:movie on the surface, they really did think about what's
ComicChams:the next step for his character, and that's to meet other
ComicChams:killers. Dollars and see if he can guide them on the right
ComicChams:path, which is kind of, you know, the running theme of
ComicChams:deadpool's movies, to make people be the best versions of
ComicChams:themselves by, you know, letting their reservations down a little
ComicChams:bit. So even though he is has that power when he tries to
ComicChams:appeal to Colossus to help. Colossus doesn't want to jump
ComicChams:in. He's tired of Wade's nonsense. And even though cable
ComicChams:has even agreed to give Deadpool 30 seconds to try to save
ComicChams:Russell, he's not for it. So they decide to go by themselves.
ComicChams:Now it's Deadpool, Dopinder, Domino and cable. And here's a
ComicChams:little preview of Deadpool and Wolverine, because Deadpool and
ComicChams:cable have some great banter, and just watch it. It's just the
ComicChams:whole conversation is great, alluding to cable's racism, his
ComicChams:comic book height. It's just like, listen, cable your cap.
ComicChams:Okay, we know this. I also love the fact that Domino was backing
ComicChams:up cable like, speaking as a black person in the room think
ComicChams:he's racist. It's, it's such a great I think I'm, I would love
ComicChams:to see them on screen more, just because I feel like the dynamic
ComicChams:that they have. It's, you know, a lot of it is definitely
ComicChams:influenced by Ryan Reynolds just basically saying, Whatever comes
ComicChams:to mind, at least, I'm assuming what comes to mind, but I do
ComicChams:love the fact that you have people that can hear that, and
ComicChams:it's just like we I will give you either a very serious
ComicChams:answer, or I'm going to try and one up you and just like the
ComicChams:going back and forth, I think is what drew me into thinking like
ComicChams:this. These characters are they're great. They're great
ComicChams:together. They're not even just characters, but the actors are
ComicChams:great together in the scene, even just like including
ComicChams:Dopinder in the mix was just a lot of fun as they now reach
ComicChams:back to the Essex location, and now they're realizing that
ComicChams:Russell as firefist fully realized. Firefist has decided
ComicChams:to team up with Juggernaut, and their goal is to basically take
ComicChams:out every single person in this building. This is going to be
ComicChams:Russell's villain origin story. His goal is to kill the
ComicChams:headmaster of the entire place, and he knows that right now, the
ComicChams:fight is, how can we stop as mentioned, how can we stop that
ComicChams:one person from their first kill? Because once they once
ComicChams:that happens, it's all over, and they all gear up, they
ComicChams:immediately start running out the car. There's some awesome
ComicChams:sound in music that's playing in the background. You're running
ComicChams:in slow mo. It's slow mo that takes an a reasonable amount of
ComicChams:time not talking one of those, like we're going to turn the two
ComicChams:hour film into three hours just because it's a Director's Cut.
ComicChams:Sorry, I might have a little bit of anger towards a particular re
ComicChams:release film. He's talking about rebel moon. Rebel. Moon
ComicChams:everywhere. He was already a director's cup. We don't need
ComicChams:another one. Um, also, guys appreciate that Dopinder joins
ComicChams:in on the mix he is running through. Unfortunately, though,
ComicChams:because Juggernaut is there to stop them, this is what leads
ComicChams:into we need more help. So they call it the second most Jack
ComicChams:character in this movie to make an appearance, and he's ready to
ComicChams:rumble. Yes, Colossus versus Juggernaut, honestly, probably
ComicChams:one of the best CGI versus CGI battles as Deadpool would say
ComicChams:himself in superhero movies, in in, I would say the decade. I
ComicChams:think it's, it's really, a really good match of powers and
ComicChams:this brawl, it's just a straight up brawl between two, two big
ComicChams:jacked dudes. And ironically, I love this little irony of the
ComicChams:movie that Deadpool and cable to try to get Russell to stop from
ComicChams:killing. Kill a lot of people, a lot of bad guys, to get to
ComicChams:Russell eventually, through a little the magic of electricity.
ComicChams:And if you've seen the first episode of the boys, that's how
ComicChams:they defeat juggernaut. Here, with electricity and some water
ComicChams:and Deadpool, gets to Russ Russell and is trying to talk
ComicChams:Russell down, but Russell is just not coming down. So as an
ComicChams:extreme measure, Deadpool puts on a mutant suppressing collar.
ComicChams:So now Russell knows he's completely vulnerable, but when
ComicChams:it still seems like it's going to go, South Gable goes to shoot
ComicChams:Russell, but Deadpool takes the bull. It, yeah, and here we get
ComicChams:a chance to see the one scene, the one death scene that lasts
ComicChams:longer than Yodas Dez pool is just telling everyone his final
ComicChams:wishes and all that. Even tells cable that he hopes that one day
ComicChams:that He will judge people by the content their skin and not the
ComicChams:color of their sorry, not the color of their skin. Says hi to
ComicChams:Yukio one last time, and as he finally passes, we see that
ComicChams:Deadpool has finally made it into the afterlife. He is next
ComicChams:to Vanessa now they have their embrace, but then back into the
ComicChams:land of the living cable, who using his time device he he does
ComicChams:know that this is the last time he can use this. So he turns on
ComicChams:the time device to trans take himself back to the beginning of
ComicChams:when they were in the car, and this is when Vanessa tells
ComicChams:Deadpool is still not your time. You got to go back and be there
ComicChams:for your family. And it's this new family that he's built here.
ComicChams:Now, not just not the X Force, it's, it's literally this family
ComicChams:that he has with cable, domino Colossus and brussel even so,
ComicChams:with Deadpool now coming back to life, because cable, in the
ComicChams:past, apparently takes the ski ball token that given Deadpool
ComicChams:gave it to Vanessa for their anniversary, for their one year
ComicChams:anniversary, Deadpool held on to it after Vanessa's death. Cable
ComicChams:stole it during their fight in the icebox, and cable placed it
ComicChams:back into the exact spot where he knew he was going to shoot
ComicChams:Deadpool in the future. So he made sure to place it there, and
ComicChams:because it was straight led, thankfully, was on Deadpool,
ComicChams:because I'm pretty sure that could have caused many harm to
ComicChams:any other person. The bullet is stopped, and now Deadpool is
ComicChams:alive. Knowing that cable went back in time to make this
ComicChams:change, he's hoping, even for cable, that his family is going
ComicChams:to be okay, and we get that confirmation when the little
ComicChams:bear that he had connected to his body, which was his
ComicChams:daughter's, is now, instead of it being the burnt bear that is
ComicChams:missing some things, is now a fully clean bear, like as was
ComicChams:dipped in a bathtub full of Dawn soap. Yes. So the future is now
ComicChams:changed, and he'll cable says, You know what? I'm going to
ComicChams:stick around to make sure that it stays that way. Group now
ComicChams:walks away as a fully formed family in an hilarious Easter
ComicChams:little note, Dopinder accidentally kills the villain
ComicChams:of the movie instead of instead of Fire Fist, so thus no one
ComicChams:gets away scot free. Here we cut straight back to Fred Savage,
ComicChams:and this is where Deadpool says, hey, they're going to be a
ComicChams:couple post credit scenes. And Fred Savage and Deadpool kind of
ComicChams:geek out over the post credit scenes. Famously, in this post
ComicChams:credit scene, the Time Machine is fixed by Yukio and Negasonic,
ComicChams:so Deadpool is able to go back in time save Vanessa. He's able
ComicChams:to save Peter. Good thing, because Peter is a huge
ComicChams:character later on, and to really for us, he kills the
ComicChams:origins version of Deadpool and kills the Ryan, Ryan Reynolds,
ComicChams:who would have signed on to Green Lantern, yes, and that's
ComicChams:it. That's what how our film wraps up in a very touching note
ComicChams:for the fans. Um, with that now, we have to determine if
ComicChams:Deadpool, once upon, the Deadpool has earned its cape, or
ComicChams:is this movie a Chris Evans, AKA a cap? Yes. I will also mention,
ComicChams:uh, the true ending is that uh, Fred Savage is cut from his bed,
ComicChams:and since he's his legs, he's been asleep for three days. He
ComicChams:collapses almost instantly, and that's the last scene of the
ComicChams:movie. Also, he had no pants. He's naked from the waist down,
ComicChams:like Winnie the Pooh. Yes, but is it cape or cap? I am going to
ComicChams:say cape. Actually, I think I do. Think I'll get it, I'll
ComicChams:address the the Fred Savage in the room. Does the framing
ComicChams:device work? Yes, and no, uh, there are times when it really
ComicChams:does enhance the movie. And it's kind of, it is fun to hear Fred
ComicChams:Savage's come. Comments. And there are times like where we
ComicChams:mentioned before with Vanessa, where it does get a little
ComicChams:distracting for them to stop the movie, to cut in. I think if I
ComicChams:was going to do an RT alteration on the framing device, I would
ComicChams:have it be more of a director's commentary, where they would be
ComicChams:able to chime in at any time and talk over some of the events of
ComicChams:the movie after they established this frame exists, rather than
ComicChams:cut away to Fred Savage, I get why they did it and the
ComicChams:temptation, and they still could find the best of both worlds,
ComicChams:but I think it might have worked a little bit better as a
ComicChams:director's commentary setup. But honestly, the thing that makes
ComicChams:me like this version of it is it's more focused. I think in
ComicChams:the original Deadpool two, we have the themes of family and
ComicChams:togetherness and everything, and it's really it's there, but
ComicChams:there are a lot of R rated jokes and gags that go on for a bit
ComicChams:and kind of distract it here. I feel like it's more streamlined
ComicChams:that the line to Deadpool wanting a family to losing that
ComicChams:family and gaining it again. I feel like because they had to
ComicChams:cut out a lot of really raunchy gags and blood we get to that
ComicChams:line so much faster. And sure we do lose some jokes that that is
ComicChams:definitely no argument there. But honestly, the best jokes
ComicChams:that I remember from Deadpool two are still here, and I don't
ComicChams:miss the blood and gore as much. Of course, that is a main appeal
ComicChams:of these movies. And I'm not saying, you know, Deadpool two
ComicChams:is worse or but I'm, I do think this is a streamlined story that
ComicChams:moves a little bit quicker. And my, my third thing I want to say
ComicChams:is that I think that if you're if somebody has not watched any
ComicChams:of the Deadpool and one who watched Deadpool and Wolverine,
ComicChams:they should watch this version of Deadpool two, because they it
ComicChams:skips all the jokes about Logan, mainly in this version. And I
ComicChams:think it kind of if you're watching them in succession, and
ComicChams:you kind of don't want to blow the Logan jokes early. This is a
ComicChams:good place to watch it, because they they only mentioned Logan a
ComicChams:couple of times, and you're going to get a lot of Logan in
ComicChams:three. So overall, I hesitate to say it's a better version of
ComicChams:Deadpool two, but I would say it is a streamlined and more
ComicChams:focused version, with some notable, notable parts where it
ComicChams:gets a little distracted by itself. But I think it's a solid
ComicChams:version of this movie. I know that's not a popular opinion,
ComicChams:but I I kind of like this version about you. Yeah,
ComicChams:that's that's interesting, the way to put it, because I did
ComicChams:feel very similar. I was just like, I felt like the pacing was
ComicChams:very different compared to when I first watched it. And I
ComicChams:thought maybe it was like, oh, because of the intersection of
ComicChams:like, Fred Savage coming in and just saying, like, let's
ComicChams:reiterate what we just saw, just so that there's a clear
ComicChams:understanding of it. But I agree. I think it's a much more
ComicChams:of a streamlined movie. I would say that this is still because,
ComicChams:just because, like, I've always felt like Deadpool two, um, was
ComicChams:a pretty strong film when it came to, like, given this his
ComicChams:particular story, I would say that it is also okay for me. Um,
ComicChams:the only reason why I will give it a cap rating is because it's
ComicChams:not a Christmas film in any way, shape or form. This is the thing
ComicChams:that upset me the most, because, like, I was just like, you have
ComicChams:an opportunity, given the fact that this film was released on
ComicChams:Christmas. If you're seeing all the ads, it is very Christmassy.
ComicChams:And even some of the imagery in these in the commercials, and
ComicChams:the ads and the trailers for it were Christmas themed. So to
ComicChams:watch this movie, and there's not like anything related at all
ComicChams:to the holiday season, is a little weird, and it feels like
ComicChams:it was more focused on, like, we know that this is coming out
ComicChams:around Christmas. Let's just play into that. And, like, just
ComicChams:trick the parent to have kids that wanted to see death pool,
ComicChams:but I first were told no, so I would have expected if it was a
ComicChams:little different, like, maybe incorporate even some lights or,
ComicChams:you know, just treat it more, because it's not the first time
ComicChams:in which, like in a Christmas movie, where an elderly person
ComicChams:is reading a story to the younger child. I think one of my
ComicChams:favorite ones I'm thinking about right now is jingle jangle,
ComicChams:whereas you just have Felicia Rashad who is reading the story,
ComicChams:and it's like you it's basically the same. Same thing, just
ComicChams:replace the scenario, give it a bit more of a holiday feel. If
ComicChams:you were going to market this as a Christmas movie, because
ComicChams:there's, there's not even a mention of what time of year
ComicChams:this takes place in so this is, yeah, it's a cape for
ComicChams:storytelling. It's a cape for the additions some gag scenes
ComicChams:did seem a little extra, but I did appreciate the fact that it
ComicChams:came right at the height of when Disney had bought Marvel. So
ComicChams:there were a lot of bit more like Disney references than it,
ComicChams:because it was like, we can now say these things because, or,
ComicChams:sorry, not Marvel, but Fox, or, I mean, Disney owns everything,
ComicChams:so it was right at the moment where they could easily say a
ComicChams:lot of the things I feel popped up more so in this version than
ComicChams:it did in Deadpool two. Yeah. But I would just say the My main
ComicChams:issue with it, it's not a Christmas movie in any way,
ComicChams:shape or form. It did not make sense to market it as such. It's
ComicChams:not a Christmas movie at all. It did not make any sense to me to
ComicChams:market it as that way. I would have just enjoyed this movie as
ComicChams:just like, let's just give it a kid version story of the
ComicChams:Deadpool two movie. I think that as parents who probably have
ComicChams:kids that know and they know that their kid is too young to
ComicChams:watch this kind of content, I think they would appreciate it.
ComicChams:I haven't seen The Princess Bride, but I did appreciate the
ComicChams:interjections from Fred Savage. And I do agree, I think that it
ComicChams:would have been better if it was more like a director's
ComicChams:commentary, where it's just like, you have the opening scene
ComicChams:of Fred Savage and then you just have scenes of him and Deadpool
ComicChams:talking over certain things, like even treat it was just
ComicChams:like, let's add in like a pause feature. Like, we see cable pop
ComicChams:up and you just see, like, the VCR kind of stopped. It's just
ComicChams:like, and it's like, Wait a minute. You guys got cable in
ComicChams:this thing and just have it play around with that. I think the
ComicChams:going back and forth in between the different stories does take
ComicChams:a little bit out of it, and that's from hearing from how you
ComicChams:describe the Princess Bride. I could see why they tried to do
ComicChams:that. But I feel like, don't mark it as a Christmas movie and
ComicChams:give us less back and forth between Fred Savage and the
ComicChams:original film. Like, just give, give the movie to us, just
ComicChams:straight as is. But overall, a cape for me. Um, I would
ComicChams:definitely be showing like, definitely not like my 10 year
ComicChams:old. I don't have a 10 year old, but I was like, I would not show
ComicChams:my 10 year old this movie, but I would feel more comfortable if,
ComicChams:like, my 13 year old, who hasn't experienced R rated films with
ComicChams:like blood and gore, had never seen something like this, I
ComicChams:would be okay with them watching this nice, well said, well said.
ComicChams:And I think I can explain some of it in a section. I working
ComicChams:title for the section, but when I go behind the scenes, I'm
ComicChams:going to call it loose threads, tentatively, loose threads
ComicChams:because, you know, Cape theme threads, sewing so loose
ComicChams:threads. About this movie. I like that, because caps could
ComicChams:also have loose threads. Yeah. All right, there you go. All
ComicChams:right. Thank you for justifying this so you, you did make a
ComicChams:great point. Why is this marketed as a Christmas film
ComicChams:when there's nothing Christmas in it. Well, this movie was not
ComicChams:supposed to exist. Quite simply, the re the main reason, again,
ComicChams:this is speculation. Fox has not confirmed any of what I'm about
ComicChams:to say, but I'm going to put the facts out and let you guys
ComicChams:figure it out for yourself. It sounds like a conspiracy, but
ComicChams:no, it's just the fact. So, originally, in December, Fox was
ComicChams:supposed to release Alita Battle Angel. However, it was not ready
ComicChams:to be released in cinemas, leaving Fox with a big Christmas
ComicChams:slot and nothing to do. Deadpool two had done fairly well that
ComicChams:year, so what they decided was, why not release a cut of
ComicChams:Deadpool two in that slot that we have, but we can't just
ComicChams:rerelease it. Nobody would see it. They decided to recut it
ComicChams:down to a PG 13, in the hopes that regions that never got to
ComicChams:see Deadpool two because of the mature content, might be able to
ComicChams:see it, such as China, who had not approved the first version
ComicChams:of the film. So the hope was to expand the film into different
ComicChams:territories and also pull people back into the theaters who had
ComicChams:already seen it, in hopes they would give them money again to
ComicChams:see it in theaters. Ryan Reynolds said he was not a he
ComicChams:wasn't initially into the idea, but he agreed to it on the basis
ComicChams:that Fox would donate $1 from every ticket sold to the fudge
ComicChams:Cancer Foundation. So he did. This was a charitable movie,
ComicChams:and, you know, in spirit Christmas. But because this
ComicChams:happened very rapidly, Fred Savage's scenes were only all
ComicChams:filmed in one. Day one sitting, they had to get Fred Savage in
ComicChams:so that's a big reason why, I think they didn't try too hard
ComicChams:to push a Christmas theme. I think also back to the
ComicChams:territories thing. I think they also wanted to avoid attaching
ComicChams:it to a Christian holiday, in case the expansion to
ComicChams:territories worked, they didn't want to, you know, root it in a
ComicChams:very specific Christian tradition. So that is, those are
ComicChams:the between the speed at which they had the one day with Fred
ComicChams:Savage and the fact that they were trying to expand it. Those
ComicChams:are probably all the reasons why this is not actually the
ComicChams:Christmas movie that they marketed. Why Fox chose to
ComicChams:market it as a Christmas movie when Alita Battle Angel also
ComicChams:wasn't well, maybe that's why Fox has been bought up at
ComicChams:Disney. Yeah. So you can fill in the blanks there, but that is
ComicChams:pretty much behind the scenes of how this movie came to be. X
ComicChams:Force was originally intended to return for Deadpool three.
ComicChams:Again, that didn't happen because Fox bought out. But
ComicChams:given the fact that Deadpool and Wolverine is the highest
ComicChams:grossing R rated movie. I would not be surprised if Deadpool
ComicChams:four pulled back domino cable Wolverine and and Deadpool all
ComicChams:together for an X Force and last but not least, something I
ComicChams:learned, um, just now, you'll never be able to watch movies
ComicChams:the same way again, because every movie that you watch, they
ComicChams:are the Writers Guild, and all the guilds and all the unions
ComicChams:are required to give credit to all the actors and writers twice
ComicChams:now that you they used to do it right at the beginning of the
ComicChams:film. Everybody used to do this. But for the films that don't do
ComicChams:it, they have to do it twice. So that is why, when a movie ends
ComicChams:and they have a creative title sequence of drawings and cutesy
ComicChams:drawings, Deadpool shooting while you see people's names,
ComicChams:that is to fulfill the legal requirement to show the credits
ComicChams:twice. That's why you have a glossy end titles and then you
ComicChams:see black and white credits every time. Oh, I was wondered
ComicChams:about that. I was just like, all right. I mean, I always
ComicChams:appreciated the details that a lot of people who are making
ComicChams:these movies are putting together to show us. And they're
ComicChams:like, very well done, animated, animated. Sometimes sequences of
ComicChams:the end credit scenes always just wonders. It's like, well, I
ComicChams:know that Ryan Reynolds played Deadpool and Wade Wilson. I
ComicChams:don't need to. I don't need the 15th reminder. But no, that does
ComicChams:make sense. Thank you for making sure that these people gain
ComicChams:their
ComicChams:credit. Yeah, and now you'll never watch the movie the same
ComicChams:again, like end game. You're like, oh, whoa. That's a really
ComicChams:cool tribute to all the Avengers over the years, no, that's a
ComicChams:legal requirement. This time we thought it was nice. It was
ComicChams:like, No, we're just trying to make sure we don't get sued just
ComicChams:here, so we don't get fined, yes, because that money should
ComicChams:be going to flush cancer. That is not a sponsorship or anything
ComicChams:that we have, but we will definitely be put in the link to
ComicChams:that into our show notes, because F that thing, yes, all
ComicChams:right. And speaking of all these, like animated sequences
ComicChams:and all that, we'd have to talk about the comic books that
ComicChams:inspired this whole film. This this movie, these characters
ComicChams:coming together. Don't worry, it'll be quick, because I know
ComicChams:that I was already beat by Fred Savage in terms of the origin
ComicChams:story of cable. So I won't tell you all about that. Instead,
ComicChams:though, I will tell you all about the first time that
ComicChams:Deadpool and cable did me, and how did that go? So, uh,
ComicChams:Deadpool was actually created just to fight cable. Deadpool
ComicChams:was first introduced in the New Mutants number 98 back in 1990
ComicChams:um, he's created by Rob lifefield and Fabian McKenzie
ComicChams:macheze. I believe. I'm sorry I'm butchering that last name,
ComicChams:but these two came together when they were writing and putting
ComicChams:together the New Mutants. Lifefield has started working on
ComicChams:it with issue number about 86 or so, and when he was thinking
ComicChams:about ways to like, really wrap it up, some of the things that
ComicChams:he did think about was that he wanted to create a duo that
ComicChams:could compete against Marvel's biggest characters in that
ComicChams:moment to see if there's a way that he can bring their
ComicChams:personalities and styles together, and those characters.
ComicChams:Wolverine and spider man. And fortunately for him, he had
ComicChams:already created cable. He already created this straight
ComicChams:laced, very serious guy, no no fun in his life had like a chip
ComicChams:on his shoulder or, I guess, robotic arm, given the fact of
ComicChams:who cable is. And while cable was created, I will also preface
ComicChams:that Nathan Summers, who is the the real name, the alter ego
ComicChams:that he has, was created a couple years before. So we got a
ComicChams:chance to see cable come to a full adult self through Rob
ComicChams:lifefields His eyes and artwork. And this is when he realized
ComicChams:that he had the straight lace guy. He was like, I need to find
ComicChams:my spider man. I need to I need to create a character who just
ComicChams:can't stop talking, who cracks a joke at every single thing. And
ComicChams:he started designing a character that he then presented the
ComicChams:artwork over to Fabian. And Fabian looked at it and was just
ComicChams:like, man, you drew Deathstroke from the Teen Titans, and that's
ComicChams:what inspired the alter ego name of death pool Wade Wilson,
ComicChams:because it was like, Well, I mean, if we're gonna go full
ComicChams:thing, might as well call him something similar to Slade
ComicChams:Wilson, and this character will then be introduced in the New
ComicChams:Mutants number 98 where his first meetup with cable was he
ComicChams:was hired by Toler, by a character named Toliver, who was
ComicChams:a New Mutants villain, um, who's Also apparently the time travel
ComicChams:future son of cable. I people. Who was who hired Deadpool to go
ComicChams:and assassinate cable was while cable was learning what it was
ComicChams:like to be a team leader for these new mutants, and there was
ComicChams:fighting. There was a couple times in which cable basically
ComicChams:broke deadpool's Draw and the thing, but he just kept going
ComicChams:and going and going and going. Fortunately, they were finally
ComicChams:able to take down Deadpool, when domino showed up, knocked them
ComicChams:in the back of the head and was able to send him on his way. And
ComicChams:that's how the story ends. That was their first interaction.
ComicChams:Thanks, Domino. You're so lucky. Yeah. So was that Deadpool
ComicChams:wasn't the character that we knew him to be kind of like
ComicChams:today. This like huge regenerative, regenerative
ComicChams:factor, the character who just couldn't stop talking, or really
ComicChams:more So breaking the fourth wall. The fourth wall break was
ComicChams:introduced much later for him in the comics. But again, this is
ComicChams:really just about 34 years of Deadpool. Deadpool is almost as
ComicChams:whole as us. It is wild to see that character who I feel like I
ComicChams:have seen my entire life and now came to life in the live action
ComicChams:presence being done by a man who basically is the our world's
ComicChams:version of Deadpool, minus the assassin work just bringing him
ComicChams:here to life. So when that happened, everybody loved the
ComicChams:fact of just like, Yeah, you did it. You got your Wolverine, you
ComicChams:got your SpiderMan. Let's see more. And this is what led to
ComicChams:Deadpool not only teaming up with cable for many, many comics
ComicChams:later on in the future, having all these crazy stories with
ComicChams:them, but also it's just like, let's introduce him to a bunch
ComicChams:of our other characters, given the fact he's already has this
ComicChams:connection to cable, meaning that he's immune, and let's
ComicChams:introduce him with the X Men. So that's how we got team us
ComicChams:between Deadpool and Wolverine, where, even right now, they're
ComicChams:creating a cover art, a variant cover art where Deadpool and
ComicChams:Wolverine are fighting, and I think biggie is supposed to stop
ComicChams:them from fighting. Okay, yeah, so this just connecting to the
ComicChams:absurdity at times of Deadpool. We also had Deadpool teaming up
ComicChams:with Spider Man. So Rob's dreams are coming true, where he's
ComicChams:like, he's teaming up with these like Marvel big heads in the
ComicChams:world. And just a couple years ago, Deadpool teamed up with
ComicChams:Black Panther. Deadpool was in Wakanda. I am cautiously curious
ComicChams:about that. Waiting to go. Don't worry. I think it was okay,
ComicChams:because this time around, it wasn't like he was coming after
ComicChams:cable thought his actions towards black Tom Cassidy. But
ComicChams:it does, it does give us a great lens into the marketability,
ComicChams:really, of Deadpool, because he really started out as just
ComicChams:really your basic army dude, like this basic guy who would
ComicChams:just go through and just take care of business with a bunch of
ComicChams:weapons, and now he's turned into this character that can
ComicChams:easily just enter space with all these other big characters in
ComicChams:the in the Marvel Universe, even making comments at times about
ComicChams:the. Other worlds, like the DC Universe. And, you know, may
ComicChams:have me think, like, outside of these particular team ups, what
ComicChams:character do you think Deadpool should be teamed up with next?
ComicChams:Like, if you were writing this book, who would you include? I
ComicChams:would see Deadpool. I think it's pretty obvious, but I just want
ComicChams:to see Deadpool and Loki. I just want to, I want to see how
ComicChams:chaotic this, this could get. Like, I just don't even know the
ComicChams:possibilities of those two together. I just don't even know
ComicChams:if, like, they're just out trying to out prank each other.
ComicChams:It's kind of like a prank wars kind of thing, and Loki can't
ComicChams:kill him, you know. So I think there's a lot of comedic
ComicChams:potential between the two of them. I like that. My My thing
ComicChams:was I wanted to do a Deadpool and Joker, just because I feel
ComicChams:like Deadpool is the character I feel that might be able to cause
ComicChams:Joker to just break like Joker has broken in the past because
ComicChams:he was like, he he didn't want to team up with Red Skull,
ComicChams:because he was like, I will condone everything in the world,
ComicChams:all kind of matters of violence, but I will not condone Nazis.
ComicChams:And that is what he said. And I would appreciate to see like,
ComicChams:how could a character like Deadpool like, what is the
ComicChams:what's not the moral stance that Joker has, but what is the like?
ComicChams:What could be the thing that could break Joker in a comedic
ComicChams:sense? And I feel like Deadpool could be the person to do that.
ComicChams:And, um, DC. I think I remember a couple years that DC does have
ComicChams:a version of Deadpool that's not, that's not that stroke that
ComicChams:Harley Quinn did team up with. But it wasn't as like overt with
ComicChams:the fourth wall breaking, but it was very much so, like these
ComicChams:characters have a very similar skill set, so that character,
ComicChams:unfortunately, didn't do as well, if I'm not mistaken, just
ComicChams:because everybody just thought it was just DCS Deadpool, sorry,
ComicChams:Deathstroke, we know that you are DCS, death pool, Deadpool,
ComicChams:yes, and Deadpool also, of course, appears in Teen Titans
ComicChams:Go to the movies when Robin and the rest of The Teen Titans call
ComicChams:out Deadpool, so he's everywhere. And the last thing
ComicChams:I'm just going to bring up real quickly is deadpool's family. So
ComicChams:this particular movie was not only just a movie about Deadpool
ComicChams:trying to figure out what this family looked like for him, but
ComicChams:of course, it was also marketed as a Christmas family film.
ComicChams:Deadpool does have a family. Um, it differs in comics with a lot
ComicChams:of times, but the most current one, the one that seems to have
ComicChams:taken the strongest hold within the timeline of things, is the
ComicChams:family that he created from a a one night stand that you have
ComicChams:with a woman named Carmelita. This led to his most famous
ComicChams:daughter, Ellie Camacho, during that thing, during their their
ComicChams:moment. Deadpool did not know that he was a father, so when
ComicChams:Carmelita brought the child to him to show that, like, Hey,
ComicChams:this is your kid in a very I will say it was a weird moment,
ComicChams:but it was a touching one, because she originally came up
ComicChams:to asking about child support payments, but he said that he
ComicChams:couldn't believe that this child was his, because this child was
ComicChams:too beautiful. And I just love that, because it was just like
ComicChams:it shows at that pool, even though he's like this jokester
ComicChams:kind of guy who probably, at times, seems he has no care for
ComicChams:human life and whatnot. He does. He does. He really, truly does.
ComicChams:Unfortunately, though, because she got introduced to deadpool's
ComicChams:life, it led to Carmelita and Ellie getting kidnapped. So
ComicChams:Deadpool went on this whole mission to make sure to save
ComicChams:them. It led to the death of Carmelita. So Deadpool had to
ComicChams:find a way to take care of his new kid. And well, of course,
ComicChams:being the fact that he's a mutant, and the the the
ComicChams:chromosome that apparently the X gene travels across, is supposed
ComicChams:to be the the Y chromosome. Ellie developed powers, and her
ComicChams:powers are very similar to her father's, except in order for
ComicChams:them to activate, she has to completely die. She does not
ComicChams:have a regenerative factor. She instead completely dies and then
ComicChams:respawns, if anything. Oh, well, I don't know. I hope she stays
ComicChams:out of here with him. I think she should just not do it. I
ComicChams:think that's just one of those like, oh. And can she? Is she
ComicChams:immortal? That's also going to be a great question to answer
ComicChams:later on. Well, with that, that wraps up our comic book section.
ComicChams:So, um, yeah, Deadpool guys, family, and it does not involve
ComicChams:cable. At times, cable, he and take cable, tend to team up. I
ComicChams:think we're going to see more Deadpool and cable. Team ups,
ComicChams:because while all the comments are being written right now,
ComicChams:really to kind of focus in on the Deadpool Wolverine team up
ComicChams:for the sake of the movie, the most iconic team up is Deadpool
ComicChams:cable, especially because they have this rich history and
ComicChams:backstory of how they were created, almost to influence one
ComicChams:another. So I think that we're going to especially now that
ComicChams:mutants are back into the comic world in the sense of like they
ComicChams:are connected to the to the larger universe. I expect in the
ComicChams:next couple years we're going to see that resurgence of Deadpool
ComicChams:and cable storytelling. So that wraps up our episode. Here join
ComicChams:us on our next stop for Ryan and Hugh road trip as we enter
ComicChams:Japan. Fortunately, it's not going to be another Batman Japan
ComicChams:movie, or Yakuza versus Batman versus the Yakuza League. No,
ComicChams:we're not doing that. Instead, we are going to see what happens
ComicChams:to Hugh Jackman as the Wolverine when he enters Japan in 2013 in
ComicChams:this movie called The Wolverine, we're adding the definitive
ComicChams:article here to this particular movie. Yes, we're not covering
ComicChams:bat manager too. Just want to throw that out before anyone
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ComicChams:never actually take advice from a kid who's in jail. Yes, I've
ComicChams:never been, Oh, my bad. No, it's like for various reasons. You
ComicChams:shouldn't. I mean, look, if this movie has taught me anything,
ComicChams:I've never been but as an objective absorber in the game,
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