Welcome to Animal Posse, the podcast dedicated to the
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:people and rescues making a
difference in the lives of animals.
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:Today, let's welcome Kelsey Knight.
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:She is the director of the
Washington Parish Animal Shelter.
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:hi Kelsey.
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:How are you?
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:I am good.
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:I am excited to talk with you today about
the Washington Parish Animal Shelter.
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:That's something that a lot
of people don't know what goes
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:in into working at a shelter.
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:A lot of people know the rescue
side, but they don't know
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:anything about the shelter side.
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:To start, can you describe your
journey to becoming the director of
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:the Washington Parish Animal Shelter?
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:Kelsey: As a young kid, I always
wanted to work with animals.
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:I think some of us are just
born with that calling.
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:And I can definitely say that.
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:So when I got out of high
school, I started grooming dogs.
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:So I was a dog stylist, and I realized
as I was working that I had this
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:knack for working with dogs that
were super fearful of being groomed.
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:So I let that become my specialty.
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:And I had, clients that just
followed me wherever I went because
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:no one else could do their dogs.
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:And then I started doing cats and bathing
and trying to cut a cat while it's fully
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:awake and aware of what's going on.
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:Not many people want to do that,
but I was like, I can do it.
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:I have the patience.
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:So I.
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:Started doing cats and I got
really burnt out very quickly.
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:I did grooming for six years,
and by the end of those six
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:years I was just exhausted.
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:I didn't have the energy to go into work.
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:I was pushing clients
back and pushing them back
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:because by that point I had
nothing but, fearful dogs and cats.
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:And so every day it was just a struggle
with every single client I had.
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:And I started getting tagged
in a Facebook post, and I'm not
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:really on Facebook a lot, so I was
like, let me see what's going on.
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:And they had a position for a shelter
manager and I had volunteered at shelters.
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:I had groomed dogs at shelters and rescue.
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:So I was like, I think I wanna do this.
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:I immediately had it in my head of
I know where I want my parish to go.
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:I know what I want to do with this.
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:So I went in and I interviewed and I
bawled like a baby in the interview.
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:I just cried my eyes out and I
was like, this is my dream job.
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:. I've always wanted to work with animals.
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:I've always wanted to save lives
and give everything I have to them.
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:And this is the best
opportunity in the world.
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:There's no greater job than
being like a shelter manager.
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:And I somehow got the job.
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:So in 2019, I walked
into a empty building.
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:It had nothing in it except like a couch.
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:It didn't even have desks
or chairs or anything.
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:And within I think two weeks we
had our first three dogs at the
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:shelter, which were just drops off.
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:Someone had seen or found out
that there was gonna be a shelter
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:there, so they came and dropped
off some dogs and I was like, okay.
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:Their names were Paul Lola
and Trunk, and they really.
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:Taught me a lot on how to
work with dogs in the shelter.
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:And, you had, one of them
had been bitten by a snake.
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:So I immediately had to figure
out how do I talk to vets?
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:How do I, deal with
this and live with this?
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:And now it's been almost
six years at the shelter.
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:Dixie: Wow.
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:That's amazing.
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:That's a interesting story going
from the grooming to doing that.
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:That's wonderful.
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:Phil: So, so the shelter started in 2019.
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:That was the in inception of
the Washington Parish shelter.
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:Kelsey: Yeah, the doors
th,:
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:Phil: Oh, fantastic.
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:Okay.
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:So you were there from the beginning then.
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:Okay, cool.
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:Kelsey: Yeah.
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:Yeah.
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:I was the first
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:employee and I'm still there.
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:Dixie: Yeah.
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:That's awesome.
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:What does a typical day look like for you?
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:Kelsey: It really, I'll say it
depends on the day of the week.
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:It depends on.
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:A whole lot of stuff.
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:We are absolutely believers that,
if it's a full moon, it's gonna be
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:crazy because every time there's
a full moon, everything's crazy.
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:But mostly a normal day, let's
say the, we're not doing intakes.
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:We don't have like crazy
adoptions or anything.
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:It's a lot of paperwork, , a
lot of on the phone.
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:I have spent an entire eight hour
shift on the phone and then I go
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:home and I'm like, I can't talk.
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:Don't ask me how my day was.
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:I'm so tired of talking.
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:Lots of data collection.
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:That's a big part of my
job is the smallest thing.
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:I'm like, okay, how can I use this fact
to learn more about my parish and learn
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:more about the animals and learn more
about my adoption pool so that I can do
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:better and make my dogs better make us.
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:A bigger asset to the parish
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:and then we have, sometimes
we have crazy days.
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:Dixie: Right.
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:Yeah, I can imagine.
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:What are the biggest challenges
that face your shelter right now?
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:Kelsey: Having a parish that is
overwhelmed with our animal population,
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:both with canines and felines.
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:We have so many kittens and
puppies and dogs and cats that we
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:don't have empty homes right now.
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:A lot of even my adopters
come in and they're like, oh
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:yeah I have two dogs at home.
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:How does this dog act with other dogs?
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:Or I have two cats, so how
does this dog react to cats?
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:It's very rare to get.
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:A new adopter that does not
already have pets in the home.
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:So we see a lot of times, especially when
we're out in the field doing like adoption
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:events at Tractor Supply or other places
that people walk by and they're like,
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:I would adopt, but I have three dogs I
would adopt, but I have five animals I
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:would adopt, but I am already at capacity
for what I can care for in my home.
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:And so that's our biggest
struggle right now.
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:If we had more adoptions, we could
get more dogs in that needed help and
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:really move our animals much quicker.
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:So then you fall back on
what about transports?
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:During Covid we had
transports out the wazoo.
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:Everything was getting shipped everywhere.
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:Even dogs with like behavior
problems or health issues.
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:We were able to get those dogs out
to New York, New Jersey, Washington.
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:And what happened was we overwhelmed them.
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:We sent so many animals up north that now
they're overburdened with our population.
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:I'm still getting calls from
people being like, yeah, I adopted
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:this dog in, 21 from you guys.
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:I'm like, oh, you just
called me from Minnesota.
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:What is my dog doing in Minnesota?
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:So we really don't have, those options
to send out massive amounts of animals.
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:And so everything has fallen back into
what we can get out in the parish.
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:So that's number one.
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:Bottom line, if we had more open
homes, empty homes, we could get
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:more adoptions, which in turn
allows us to take in more animals.
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:Dixie: And what types of animals do you
typically see coming into the shelter?
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:. Kelsey: So we are not animal
control at the shelter.
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:So we don't have any legal authority.
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:We can't go out and seize animals.
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:We can't go out and, write
citations or do anything like that.
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:So mostly what we see are
stray and owner surrender.
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:So an owner surrender, obviously,
they chose to care for that animal.
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:Have that animal, we put them on our
intake list, we get that animal in on
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:the opposite side, you have your stray
surrender where maybe a stray dog has
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:come into the yard or maybe like it's a
business or something, and they're like,
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:there's no owner, no one's claiming it.
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:It needs to come into the shelter..
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:Now we do take in almost all of
the emergency cases that come.
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:Through like our phone
log or our messages.
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:So we get a lot of dogs that are
severely injured hit by a car, different
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:stuff like that just because we're
super medically based at the shelter.
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:So we're actually able to care
for those animals and treat them.
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:Phil: Okay.
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:And I know y'all are in a rural area.
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:Do you ever take anything other
than cats or dogs dogs, like any
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:kind of livestock or anything?
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:Kelsey: So we don't have
the capacity for livestock.
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:We've helped assist in some situations
with horses and goats and stuff,
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:but we don't have the space or the
fencing to actually house animals.
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:We have gotten some birds of prey that we
sent out, so we've gotten a falcon before.
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:Owls, you get your little baby
squirrel calls and raccoons and
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:possums and stuff like that, but
we cannot keep them at the shelter.
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:So even if we're holding them
short term, we have to send them
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:out to a sanctuary or a rescue.
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:Dixie: And how has the shelter
adapted to changes in animal
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:welfare practices over the years?
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:Kelsey: I will say in 2019,
I didn't know anything.
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:I was so green, like I had
no idea about anything.
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:But one thing about me personally is.
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:All I do is research.
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:All I do is educate myself.
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:So anytime someone was like, oh, we're
gonna have a course about this, or
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:we're gonna have a class about this,
or we're gonna be talking about this,
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:I'm like let me in on that Zoom call.
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:Let me drive over here
and see what's going on.
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:And so then once you start meeting
the other directors of the shelters
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:and you start meeting, you know these
genius minds, you're able to, call
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:them up and say, Hey, I'm confused about
this, or I just got this situation in.
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:And then you meet vets who are like, yeah,
gimme a call if you're ever, confused
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:about something or if you need help.
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:And then you step up and now all
of a sudden you're talking to
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:the directors of, shelter med at
LSU, . Learning, everything about
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:my job is learning data collection.
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:What can I do better?
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:Where can I do better?
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:So when we started, we were basic medical
protocol, basic training, basic welfare.
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:We had no idea.
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:And now when a dog comes into our shelter
within 24 hours, that dog has almost been
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:fully medically treated for everything.
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:It's been wormed, vaccinated,
heartworm tested, it's given
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:like flea and tick prevention.
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:We've looked that dog over completely.
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:Our vets are already aware that Hey, when
you come in, this dog has my belly button
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:hernia or this dog is a criptorchid.
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:Or all of those things.
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:And then we reach out to the
trainers that we work with and we're
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:like, Hey, this dog is super shy.
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:Would you be willing to come
up and work with this dog
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:for, one or two times a week?
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:We have a trainer that comes.
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:Twice a week to the shelter,
to dog test our dogs.
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:Then we have an incredible man who like
twice a week comes and walks every dog
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:in our facility, just takes them out on
a walk and walks them to get out energy.
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:Like we're, we put our all into
these animals at the shelter.
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:Dixie: Do you ever collaborate
with animal welfare organizations
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:or other community groups?
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:Kelsey: Oh, absolutely.
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:So Washington Humane Society has
been one of our biggest partners
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:from the inception of the shelter.
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:We rely on them so much.
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:They are like the friends of
Washington Parish Animal Shelter.
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:They helped us get our start
with spay neuter clinic.
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:They were the ones who found the funding
to get us the anesthesia machines and the
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:tables and the stuff that we have now.
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:If there's ever a situation where
we're , we need help, getting this.
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:Oxygen thing or whatever, like
they're the ones that we call when
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:we need help with that side of it.
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:But they support us in multiple ways, like
especially sharing our Facebook posts.
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:Anytime we make a Facebook post, they're,
it's an immediate oh, I know they're
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:gonna share it, it's gonna get to
their audience, which is not the same
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:audience that we have at our shelter.
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:We've worked with bigger groups
like Bissell best friends.
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:Greater good.
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:We've, worked with them.
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:We're part of Bissell's
Fix the Future Program.
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:So they actually pay our vets
to come in and spay and neuter
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:animals for our public, pay them
in full to do all of that work.
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:But then Washington Humane Society,
they get grants for all of the cats.
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:So right now, in March we're doing
over, I think actually we might be at
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:a hundred Cats this month, and they
have paid for every single one of
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:those cats to be spayed or neutered.
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:Dixie: That's great.
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:So we don't have any.
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:Kelsey: Yeah, we don't have
anybody paying for cats this month.
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:And then, with Greater Good, we've
worked with their food program to
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:distribute food out to low income
people in our public so that they
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:can have food when they're in a bind.
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:Yeah.
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:It's all about public relations,
who we can talk to, who we can work
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:together, what our shelter can do,
what you can do for our shelter.
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:Dixie: Now, can you talk a
little bit more about your spay
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:neuter program that you have?
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:Kelsey: Absolutely.
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:That is my baby.
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:It's my brain child.
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:So last year in 2024, we spayed and
neutered 961 Felines and canines,
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:which is huge for a shelter our size.
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:That's just an outstanding number.
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:And it started in 2020.
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:I really had no idea.
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:I just knew spay neuter is the
foundation of cleaning up population.
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:That's where you have to start everything.
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:So we had a vet come in and she
was like, this is what you need.
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:You need this, and this.
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:And literally listed out all
the items we would need to have
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:a spay neuter clinic start.
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:And so we started with her and it
was really just shelter animals.
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:We weren't doing anything
for the public at that time.
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:Just because of liability.
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:We weren't really a well versed team yet.
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:We were still, hitting our
toes every once in a while.
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:And then in 2021 we got
a little bit bigger.
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:So instead of doing five dogs to
clinic, we were doing 15 dogs to clinic.
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:And then in 2022, all
of a sudden we're doing.
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:30 annals every single week.
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:And then in 2024, at one time we
had five different vets working
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:at our shelter on rotation.
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:And we were sometimes doing
two or three clinics a week.
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:And it really, it got to be overwhelming.
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:So as 2025, we have
slacked off a little bit.
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:We're still trying to do between
three and four clinics a month,
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:and we're doing 30 to 40 animals.
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:Actually this Saturday
we're doing a massive event.
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:We are doing 60 animals this Saturday.
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:So we've all been prepared for a 12
hour shift this Saturday at the shelter.
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:Dixie: Do those events
fill up pretty quickly
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:? Kelsey: Absolutely.
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:So we actually have seen, which is
incredible, a lower number of cat calls.
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:We have seen a lessening of
people needing to get cats in.
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:Now, when we make a post, obviously we get
a lot of calls, but we're still seeing,
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:we're still having to like, reach out to
people and be like, Hey, do you have cats?
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:Do you have cats?
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:You need done, does your
neighbor have cats that need
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:done because we need cat spots.
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:And so that in itself is just.
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:Such, such a cool data point to have.
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:Because I remember two years ago
where every other call was a cat call.
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:It was a cat, dog, cat, dog.
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:And now maybe we're getting one,
two cat calls a week and that's it.
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:Dixie: Yeah.
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:That's amazing.
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:And usually
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:Kelsey: it's to get into
our spay neuter clinic.
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:Dixie: Yeah.
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:That's amazing.
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:Yeah.
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:Kelsey: It's been a shock.
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:But between our clinic and the Washington
Humane Society, crossroads Clinic, we're
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:probably doing almost 300 cats a month.
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:Between the two of us.
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:Phil: Yeah.
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:I know out here by us, there's times
where we gotta try and book a month
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:or two ahead to try and get cats done.
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:'cause they're just, slammed.
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:That's amazing that y'all
can get that many done.
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:Kelsey: And look, if we, if you
have cats and you need cats in, we
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:have money for TNR Cats right now.
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:But our normal price for cats is only $25.
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:That is what it costs for you
to get a cat into our clinic
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:and have it altered vaccinated.
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:It now we do a mandatory ear tip
that is mandatory for us, and
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:pretty soon we're gonna start
actually tattooing our ear tips.
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:Instead of creating a secondary incision
on the abdomen, we're just gonna add
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:tattoo ink to the already tipped ear and.
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:So that's, I think that's gonna stop
a lot of owned cats from coming to
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:us just because, I know they don't
want their little cat to have a
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:green line on the tip of its ear.
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:But we're really doing this for, TNR
cats while we do book owned cats.
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:It's really for these ferals that
are out in the community populating.
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:Dixie: Right, how many animals
can your shelter accommodate
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:as far as cats and dogs?
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:Kelsey: So we have three cat
cages, but we do not at this
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:time take cats from the public.
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:If we did just open our doors
and say, Hey, if you have a cat
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:you don't want bring it here.
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:We would be inundated.
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:It would just be nonstop.
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:We would have a hundred
cats on the first day.
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:So the cats that we do get are all from
other municipalities, whether it be fire
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:department, police department say they
go out on a call, there's a cat in a
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:situation that is unsafe, they'll call us.
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:We take that feline from them,
but we don't take owned or stray
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:cats from the general public.
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:So we have three cat houses
that we can safely house cats.
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:Long term, we have 12 dog runs,
so really if it's 12 adult dogs,
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:that's really all we can house.
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:But obviously like a litter of puppies,
you can put them together in the same run
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:or maybe you can put two dogs together
if they're from the same household.
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:But right now we have 26
animals at the shelter,
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:so we're super full.
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:Dixie: And now you limit intakes by
appointment only, is that correct?
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:Kelsey: So we have an intake list.
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:So what happens is when people call us
and they have an owned or a stray dog,
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:the first thing we ask is send pictures.
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:Because when we, we get
a lot of lost dogs too.
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:So the first thing we do is take
a look at that picture doesn't
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:match anything that's lost.
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:If it doesn't match anything that's
lost, then we send it out to our rescue
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:partners that we have a little group for,
and we'll send it out to them because
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:there's always a possibility that they
can pull that dog in faster than we can.
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:Then they go on our intake list and
as we get adoptions and dogs out, we
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:immediately call the next person in.
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:A lot of times we get a big holdup
because we'll have someone that has,
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:12, 14, sometimes 28 dogs at one time.
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:And so we have to, get all of
those animals in from that one
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:area before we can move on to
the next person in our list.
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:Dixie: Do you have a foster system
in place or do you rely more
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:on the rescues foster systems?
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:Kelsey: So we really don't have
fosters in Washington Parish.
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:And most of the fosters that are in the
parish are pretty much their own rescues.
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:They're not pulling from our
shelter, they're not pulling they're
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:pulling straight off the street.
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:We have posted certain dogs for
foster and not received anything.
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:Back from them.
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:And then I know with like our
Humane Society, they haven't been
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:able to really get fosters either
to come forward for certain dogs.
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:So we have some fosters, but most
of the fosters that we have are
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:like very specific kind of animals.
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:Like only small dogs, only puppies
only, certain dogs of if they have
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:like a health issue or something,
they're not just pulling straight out
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:of the shelter because we're full.
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:So that's not really an
option that we have right now.
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:We are prepared for fosters.
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:If you foster through us, food is
given, medical is given, we'll give
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:a kennel to take the animal home so
that you have a kennel at home if you
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:need to put the animal in the kennel.
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:We just don't have people
reaching out, to offer fostering.
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:Dixie: I know shelters get a bad rap.
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:What are some of the misconceptions people
have about shelters or shelter animals?
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:Kelsey: The biggest misconception is
that, we're just killing everything.
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:It comes in, we kill it, we get
something else in, we kill it,
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:blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
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:There are very few shelters
in:
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:Do they exist?
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:Absolutely.
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:They don't exist in Washington Parish.
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:Dixie: That's wonderful.
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:Kelsey: We are an entirely no kill parish.
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:And I say that with quotations
because every shelter, because of
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:public safety, has to euthanize dogs.
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:We have to, if a dog comes
into the shelter and it is a
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:danger to itself or others.
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:We cannot allow that animal back
out on the street to harm someone.
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:Not every dog that comes into the shelter
is perfect or flawless or can be fixed.
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:We're getting dogs and that have
killed other dogs like literally
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:have damned something so bad
that it is no longer living.
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:We obviously can't allow that to
go back out into our population.
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:We have dogs that come in that have
severely bitten people and once
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:they're passed that stray hold and
it is up to a judge most of the time.
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:But if we get the order that dog is not
allowed back in the public we, we can't
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:let that dog back out into the wilds.
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:The other reason that we
would euthanize is for health.
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:If we have a dog that's come in and
it's been hit by a car and it's pelvis
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:is shattered, it's, kidney has blown.
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:We would be doing a disservice to hold
that animal in the hopes that someone
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:else has the finances to help that animal.
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:And we just don't do that, obviously.
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:If something comes in and it's injured,
we're gonna do everything we can.
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:But there's also a certain line and
we talk to our vets, I'll call my
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:vet and I'll get on FaceTime or send
pictures and be like, this is what
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:I have, this is what's going on.
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:What do you think?
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:And if they turn around and they
say, you can't help that dog.
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:Okay, we cannot help this dog
so we won't allow suffering.
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:We are absolutely that.
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:It is qua quality of life
over quantity of life.
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:And so that's our biggest misconception.
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:I would say the other one
is that, we don't care about
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:the animals in the shelter.
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:That we just, take them in and it's we'll
hold 'em and then, throw 'em back out.
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:That's not true at all.
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:Our dogs are babies.
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:I remember the dogs that I've
had throughout the years.
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:People come into the shelter and
they're like, yeah, I adopted
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:this dog from you three years ago.
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:And I'm like, yeah, I remember that dog.
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:I love that dog.
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:The dog looked like this.
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:And it had this marking because these,
there, there's a reason we work with
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:animals, and it's because we love them.
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:We love them so much that we wanna do
everything we can to save them and protect
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:them and make sure that they're given
the best life possible in the shelter.
433
:Some of the dogs are treated better in
the shelter than they could be treated.
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:In a home.
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:Because we are giving them
enrichment every single day.
436
:Right.
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:They're getting yard
time every single day.
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:They're getting walked.
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:I know a lot of people, even
myself, I don't walk my dogs.
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:I'm like, you go out in the yard and play.
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:I'm not taking you for a walk.
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:Ours are getting walked around.
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:They're getting jobs to do
even while at the shelter.
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:And we have three actual shelter
cats, which are our babies.
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:They're inside, outside Free Roamers.
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:We have Bob who is literally our logo cat.
447
:He's on our shirts.
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:He's on our rugs, he's on our logo.
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:Love him.
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:He's a Bob Tail and on our logo, he was
actually dumped at the shelter three years
451
:before the shelter existed, where it was.
452
:Oh wow.
453
:And the guys next door, 'cause we
have the road crew next door, they
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:just fed him and took care of him.
455
:Yeah, so he is almost nine years old now
and the shelter is literally his home.
456
:He doesn't know anything
else but the shelter.
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:Always been there.
458
:Then we have Thomas, which was probably
like a panleuk kitten and she survived,
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:but she has the neurological issues,
so she walks in circles constantly.
460
:That's my baby.
461
:I love her.
462
:I adore her.
463
:She follows me everywhere I go.
464
:And then we have Willow who
has an autoimmune disease,
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:so she drools everywhere.
466
:To the point where she literally,
if she shakes her head, drool
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:just flies everywhere and she
gets sick like every other day.
468
:That's our babies.
469
:We love them.
470
:Phil: I know the feeling.
471
:Dixie: What is the adoption process like?
472
:Kelsey: So we have a very easy
adoption price price process.
473
:So you walk in our shelter,
we'll take you to the back.
474
:You can look at all of
the dogs at any time.
475
:If you see a dog that you want and
you want, some time with it, we
476
:have an adoption room where you
can go in there, hang out with
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:the dog as long as you want to.
478
:If at the end you're like, yeah,
absolutely, I wanna take this dog home.
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:As long as that dog is
altered, you can adopt.
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:Same day we have a contract to
fill out and our normal adoption
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:price is a hundred dollars.
482
:But that covers, vaccines, spay
and neuter, worm, everything.
483
:And usually we'll even give heartworm and
flee intake prevention for the next month.
484
:So you're getting a lot
for that a hundred dollars.
485
:But we do specials all the time.
486
:A few weeks ago we had a black dog
special where all adoption fees were
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:waived if you adopted a black dog
because we had seven black dogs in
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:the shelter and they weren't moving.
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:So we were like, okay, let's
get 'em into some homes.
490
:Dixie: Yeah.
491
:It's a shame that the black dogs
and black cats are the ones to least
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:or least likely to get adopted.
493
:Kelsey: I heard something and now I
can't remember where I heard it from,
494
:but, and it was one of my teachers.
495
:But she said that the animals in the
shelter are the animals in your community.
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:So if our shelter is full of pit bull
breeds, that means that's what people
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:in our community are wanting because
they wouldn't be in our shelter if
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:they weren't, if there wasn't triple
the amount in the general population.
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:So even though we had all of those
black dogs, maybe it was the price
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:that was the factor because all
of those black dogs got adopted.
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:Dixie: Oh, that's great.
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:That's great.
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:Kelsey: Yeah.
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:We don't have any of them.
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:Boots was the last one to be adopted,
and she got adopted last week.
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:So every single one of
those black dogs, so it's.
507
:It is hard and a lot of times, I'll
get a big giant pit bull in the
508
:shelter and I'll go, alright bud,
you're gonna be with us for a while.
509
:But a while is not forever.
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:And even if they're with us for
two or three months, they're
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:still gonna get adopted.
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:There's some special home out
there, but it also gives us
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:time to work on that animal.
514
:So if the animal comes in and it's, not
fractious, but let's just say it's a
515
:very hyper animal who doesn't know how
to walk on the leash, and that's why the
516
:owner brought it into the shelter was
because it was jumping all over them.
517
:That gives us the time to put in that work
so that dog doesn't jump on them anymore.
518
:And now we have a dog
that's behaviorally sound.
519
:Dixie: Do you offer any kind of support to
adopters after they take the animal home?
520
:Kelsey: Yes and no.
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:So if it is a puppy and it is under
the age where it has gotten all of
522
:its vaccines, we continue vaccinating
until that puppy is fully vaccinated.
523
:If they come in and they're like,
Hey, we need some warmer, or we
524
:need this, we'll continue that.
525
:We used to have partners that we
worked with like there was a grooming
526
:salon that offered a free bath.
527
:If you adopted through us we
do give out like trainer cards.
528
:We work with K Pro K nine, and, everybody
leaves with a card and it's Hey, if
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:you have any problems, call them.
530
:They're who we partner with, they're gonna
be able to walk you through everything.
531
:But not really anymore.
532
:There's not a lot to give afterwards
once they leave the shelter.
533
:We wish that were different, but we
just, don't have aftercare resources.
534
:Dixie: And what about in terms of
a hurricane coming or a disaster,
535
:do you evacuate your animals or do
you have a place for them to go?
536
:Kelsey: Yeah, so actually by the state we
have to have evacuation plan sent to them.
537
:I think it's every March, but I
usually try to send mine in January
538
:so I don't have to worry about it.
539
:But yeah if, we're really not at risk for
a fire because of where the shelter is,
540
:where surrounded by pea gravel, we have,
parking lots, roads, the whole nine yards.
541
:So really fire is off the table.
542
:Our building has been through a
million and a half hurricanes.
543
:She's still standing.
544
:So unless the roof came off,
we probably wouldn't evacuate.
545
:Our really only concern is if
a tornado comes through, but
546
:Washington Parish government has.
547
:Been so incredible to this shelter.
548
:And that is such a rare thing to say
when you talk about, municipalities
549
:and their shelters usually they're
just like, oh it's underfunded.
550
:They don't care about it.
551
:Washington Parish government
absolutely cares about our shelter.
552
:We have an incredible generator.
553
:I don't even know how big it is, but it
is massive and it can run the shelter
554
:for three days if the power is cut off,
which is just absolutely incredible.
555
:We have cots, we have
tarps, we have kennels.
556
:We have everything we would need
in an emergency to move those dogs.
557
:And we have partners that if something
happened inside the shelter, if
558
:we had a fire inside the shelter
and we had to move everybody out,
559
:we have places where they can go.
560
:Dixie: And how is the shelter funded?
561
:'cause you touched on that a little bit.
562
:Kelsey: Yeah, so we do not
have dedicated funding.
563
:So we, our parish, our people do not pay
a specific tax that comes to the shelter.
564
:We also don't have animal control,
so we don't have any funding from
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:like tickets or fines or fees.
566
:We are based off of a percentage of
money that is given to our health units.
567
:So they have a budget and we, it's
like we're taking some money from
568
:them and that's what we live off of.
569
:So a 90% of what we do off of donations
and the partners that we work with.
570
:So if you look at it broken down.
571
:What we get for, from the health
unit, for our, yearly fund
572
:that pays for the employees.
573
:And then we have a little
bit left over for supplies.
574
:And that's pretty much
our budget for the year.
575
:Dixie: So are supplies
something that is needed?
576
:Do you get donations from
individuals as well as these
577
:rescue groups that you work with?
578
:Kelsey: So I will say we don't
have a large volunteer pool.
579
:We don't have a large foster pool.
580
:But when it comes to our public
giving donations to the shelter,
581
:buying things off of our Amazon
wishlist, they are incredible.
582
:They're unstoppable.
583
:I feel like we have to make a
thank you post like every other
584
:day for someone donating something
to the shelter they're donating.
585
:Food.
586
:We have two different types of
food at the shelter that we feed.
587
:So at our dogs are fed,
Purina, any kind of Purina.
588
:And then we have a prison program at
Rayburn Correctional where we send dogs
589
:for six months to get obedient trained.
590
:They feed pedigree over there.
591
:So a lot of times we'll need
food for our shelter or we'll
592
:need food for that program.
593
:And so we'll make a post and being
like, Hey, we need food for the prison.
594
:And then we'll get, 10 bags within a week.
595
:So yeah our public's really
good when it comes to donations.
596
:Dixie: How can people volunteer
at the shelter and what types of
597
:volunteer opportunities are available?
598
:Kelsey: So we are open Monday
through Friday from eight to four.
599
:We have a Saturday clinic,
maybe once a month.
600
:But most of the time everyone
that works at the shelter right
601
:now is mothers with children.
602
:And most of our children are
young like 10 and younger.
603
:So we try and take our weekends when
we can, but you can just come in like
604
:we're open eight to four, so you can
walk in and be like, Hey, I'm here.
605
:I wanna volunteer.
606
:And there's always something to do.
607
:Most of the time it has to do
with cleaning because that is the
608
:thing that takes up the most time.
609
:But it's also the thing that gets
pushed back the most because it's
610
:really hard to we have right now, 5,
6, 7, 8, we have eight taxis in the
611
:shelter that are just sitting in the
middle room, in the front room because.
612
:We were cleaning today, we were doing
paperwork, we were doing everything else.
613
:And I was like, I just don't have time
to break these down and clean them.
614
:So a lot of it has to do with that.
615
:But right now we have like
14 huskies at the shelter.
616
:Wow.
617
:And we are desperately, yeah.
618
:Yeah.
619
:We had a hoarding case, so it was
actually 22, and we've been able to
620
:move some into rescue, but we still
have 14 at the shelter, not including
621
:our other dogs that were already there.
622
:And we had six of those.
623
:So, we are desperate right now for
someone to come and bathe these poor
624
:huskies because they're so dirty
and they like, have mats all over
625
:them because of all the loose hair.
626
:And that's definitely a
need we have right now.
627
:We also have some fencing and stuff,
not fencing, but like shaders that we're
628
:trying to put up at the shelter that we
just have not had the time to put up.
629
:So I have all the materials and the zip
ties just sitting there and I'm like,
630
:I don't know when I'm gonna get to it.
631
:Dixie: Yeah I like that you're
allowing people to just go in
632
:and help whenever they need to.
633
:'cause I know a lot of other places
are a lot more structured and
634
:they're like, oh, we don't want
the help if you can't commit to it.
635
:But a lot of times people can't commit.
636
:But some help is better than no help.
637
:Kelsey: Absolutely.
638
:If, so, what we see a lot is someone
like will come in and they have
639
:like court ordered service hours.
640
:And because of the way we're
structured, a lot of people can get
641
:those service hours done in one day.
642
:And it's okay, you've come in, I know
I'm probably never gonna see you again,
643
:so I'm gonna use you all day and
then I'll, I'll never see you again.
644
:But thank you so much for the help.
645
:But yeah, it's not easy
to volunteer at shelters.
646
:It's almost a job like you're
volunteering to do labor.
647
:We don't have paperwork tasks,
we don't have filing tasks
648
:like that's taken care of.
649
:We need help with the animals.
650
:We need help cleaning.
651
:We need help like wrapping first,
like first spay, neuter clinic.
652
:We have Ms.
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:Carolyn who is absolutely incredible.
654
:She comes two or three days before our
spay neuter clinic and we'll wrap like
655
:40 to 50 spay neuter packs for us.
656
:And that's her entire day is just
sitting at a desk dealing with
657
:surgical tools and wrapping them.
658
:And that's all she does for an entire day.
659
:It's so incredible.
660
:Like every time she comes
in, I'm like I adore you.
661
:Thank you.
662
:Because that's one of my employees.
663
:And our shelter, we only
have four employees.
664
:We're actually down an employee
right now, so we're only at three.
665
:And then because of our spay
neuter clinic this Saturday,
666
:we've all had to stagger days off.
667
:Or else we would be
like 20 hours over time.
668
:So this almost this entire week, we've
only had two employees at the shelter
669
:dealing with this massive amount of
animals and everything that we need to
670
:clean and everything that we need to do.
671
:And you just can't do it in eight hours.
672
:Eight hours is not long enough.
673
:And if you wanna go home and sleep,
it's okay, go home, go sleep, go find
674
:something to eat, and just be prepared
to sweat your butt off the next day.
675
:Dixie: Yeah, I love that you're so
passionate about working at the shelter.
676
:That's great.
677
:And so what would you say is the
most rewarding part of your job?
678
:Kelsey: A few years ago, I would've
said when the dogs get adopted, I
679
:understand sheltering way more now.
680
:And honestly, I will say the most
rewarding part of sheltering is
681
:understanding that I am doing something.
682
:I am saving lives.
683
:There's a lot of sleepless nights,
there's a lot of heartbreak and heartache.
684
:A lot of people will say you
have to make yourself cold.
685
:They say that in nursing too, is you
just have to shut yourself off, but we're
686
:human and you can only shut yourself off
for so long before you just break down.
687
:And every morning I go into the
shelter and some mornings I'm like,
688
:I just don't wanna be here today.
689
:And then other mornings I'm
like, I'm so grateful to be here.
690
:But the most rewarding part for me is at
the end of the day when I'm going home,
691
:I'll ask myself, is there anything that I
could have done more for my animals today?
692
:Sometimes that answer is yes.
693
:Sometimes it is.
694
:Sometimes I could have spent extra
time, but when that answer is no,
695
:when I am going home and I know that
I have done everything that I could
696
:possibly do for my animals that
day, there is nothing more rewarding
697
:to me than being able to say that.
698
:Dixie: What are your hopes for the future
of animal welfare in your community?
699
:Kelsey: So in the parish, I'll definitely
say that, we all get on the same page.
700
:We have a educational base with our
public that we're all in kind of agreement
701
:with the way that animals should be
taken care of, the way they should be
702
:treated, how shelters work, how animal
control should work, what the laws are.
703
:That's every shelter director's biggest
goal is that everybody's on the same page.
704
:When we go out on a call or when a dog
comes into the shelter, everybody kind
705
:of underst understands like basic care
and basic the basic needs of an animal.
706
:That's such a big thing.
707
:We have hosted educational classes in the
past on dogs and cats and TNR to be able
708
:to get our public in and be like, Hey.
709
:You guys got a new puppy, you
wanna vaccinate this puppy?
710
:Let me tell you all about vaccinating
and worming and what we can do and
711
:how we can help you make this puppy
super healthy for the rest of its life.
712
:And, oh, you have a dog
that's out on a runner.
713
:Let me show you how to make
this dog's life the best, even
714
:though it's an outside dog.
715
:Let me show you how we can make
this better for this dog and why
716
:this dog needs this to keep this dog
sane while it's outside on a runner.
717
:Because if someone is doing something
wrong, it's my job to educate them to
718
:do something right, because they're not
being malicious if they don't know better.
719
:So we have to have kindness with
the people that don't know better.
720
:Because before I got into the
shelter, I didn't know better.
721
:I have learned, and I can't stand on a
pedestal and say, oh, I'm the smartest
722
:person in the world, because I wasn't.
723
:I had to be educated on it.
724
:So we have to educate everybody.
725
:I will say on a state level, I wish that
animal ordinances were universal and
726
:obviously that's not a perfect system
and that probably will never happen.
727
:But
728
:that there is more structure
to animal shelters.
729
:Not all animal shelters
will be built identically.
730
:But that we should all be able to
access the same care and resources
731
:so that we don't have little
podunk shelters that don't have any
732
:resources or don't have anything.
733
:We've definitely seen that with, the
Bogalusa shelter recently that got shut
734
:down, they just didn't have the resources.
735
:There was one employee there who was
working seven days a week, and that
736
:in itself is just, you can't do that.
737
:You can't run on that.
738
:And that's my hope is that everybody can
have the same resources, all the dogs
739
:can have the same amount of food and vet,
access to vet care and stuff like that.
740
:Dixie: Yeah.
741
:Absolutely I totally
agree with you on that.
742
:Especially rural shelters, are
often overlooked and they don't have
743
:the funding that they should have.
744
:Kelsey: Yeah.
745
:And they don't have, they
don't have the education too.
746
:I know a lot of, I, I won't call
out anything specifically but a lot
747
:of the education for animal control
in Louisiana is very expensive.
748
:Very expensive to be able to go to some
of these courses and get basic education.
749
:And if they don't have access to that,
how are they supposed to know better?
750
:Dixie: Absolutely.
751
:I didn't know that there wasn't
any kind of resource for them where
752
:they could just go learn the things
without taking these workshops.
753
:Kelsey: Yeah.
754
:Unless they're willing to go on their own
personal time and go to another shelter
755
:and learn from them, or stay on the phone
or, just find stuff out on the internet.
756
:There's no easy access to basic
animal sheltering education.
757
:You have to know somebody
to find something out.
758
:Or you have to pay an arm and a leg
and go, four or five hours away.
759
:A lot of the big conventions that we have
went to and have not went to like the Best
760
:Friends National Conference last year or
a few months ago, it was in California.
761
:We wanted to go, that's not an option.
762
:We don't have the funding
for a California conference.
763
:But the year before it was in
Florida and we can drive to Florida.
764
:So we were like, okay,
let's go to this conference.
765
:We learned so much.
766
:It was absolutely a great, wonderful time.
767
:But we can drive there.
768
:So it's less cost comparative to going to
California where you're gonna have three
769
:different flights that you have to take
just going and, that's just too expensive.
770
:So, yeah, a lot of the education
for animal control and animal
771
:sheltering is behind a paywall.
772
:Dixie: So where can our listers learn
more about your shelter and get involved?
773
:Kelsey: I will say the
first thing is just come in.
774
:There's no reason to ever think that
you can't come to the shelter if
775
:the shelter, if you ever come to the
shelter and the shelter's closed,
776
:it's a, either a holiday or the entire
staff has had to go do something.
777
:Being a small staff, if someone takes off.
778
:Then, the whole shelter kind of has to
close because we don't have anybody there.
779
:So I know Wednesday we had some
body come to the shelter and
780
:that's when we were picking up the
hoarding situation with 22 dogs.
781
:It was me and one other employee.
782
:So when we left to go get these 22
dogs, because we both had to go do
783
:that, we couldn't do it by ourselves.
784
:We had to close the shelter.
785
:Our shelter has a phone number.
786
:It's (985) 205-2023.
787
:We have a tin roof in
the middle of nowhere.
788
:So if you call our shelter and you
get the voicemail, please leave a
789
:voicemail or send a text message.
790
:We'll get back to you as
soon as we possibly can.
791
:But sometimes if the shelter
phone is not in the front window.
792
:It will not ring for us.
793
:So make sure you leave a voicemail
or send us a text message.
794
:You can also get in touch with
us through Facebook Messenger.
795
:We all have that on our phones now, so if
something comes through, we can see it.
796
:We probably won't respond until
business hours, but we'll definitely
797
:be able to, receive that message.
798
:Dixie: And what message would you
like to leave our listeners with?
799
:Kelsey: If you want to be involved,
don't be afraid to get involved if
800
:you can't get physically involved.
801
:Share posts on Facebook.
802
:When you see animals on the side
of the road, or you see someone
803
:sharing something, mark down that
location, send that location to us
804
:with a description of the animal.
805
:If you don't have social media,
you can't physically get involved.
806
:You're stuck at home all day.
807
:Maybe think about fostering.
808
:There's so many ways to assist,
and if your passion is animals, you
809
:can help even in the smallest ways.
810
:Dixie: I definitely agree with that.
811
:I've enjoyed the conversation a lot.
812
:It's very inspiring to know that
you started basically from nothing
813
:and got to where you are now.
814
:It really is amazing.
815
:Kelsey: Thank you.
816
:Phil: I've seen a bunch
of your dogs last year.
817
:At Pet Fest at Lafreniere Park
and there were some, well.
818
:Cared for
819
:animals.
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:And
821
:Kelsey: thank
822
:you.
823
:Phil: So I just wanna know, are y'all
gonna be at Pet Fest again this year?
824
:Kelsey: We are not because of our short
staff, we had to decline this year.
825
:We were really sad about it and
definitely sad because we declined
826
:before we got in the Huskies.
827
:So we're definitely like
regretting that decision.
828
:But right now we just don't have,
we don't have the staff and we
829
:don't have the volunteers to be able
to do such a big event like that.
830
:Dixie: And the Huskies, do you have those
huskies online on your Facebook page?
831
:Kelsey: They're not posted yet.
832
:We're going through them.
833
:Some of them are vaccinated and
spayed, neutered, some of them are not.
834
:But they, we were supposed to get
pictures today, but we did not get
835
:pictures of them because we were cleaning.
836
:But yes, as soon as we post them, we're
gonna be able to say which ones are
837
:ready to go immediately and which ones
have to wait to be spayed or neutered.
838
:Nothing is ever adopted out of our
shelter, unspayed and un neutered.
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:That just does not happen with us.
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:Dixie: Yeah, that's a very important
thing too, 'cause we don't need a whole
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:bunch of extra huskies running around.
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:Kelsey: Yeah.
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:And I do wanna say, just in case any other
shelter directors listen to this that is
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:not a dis on any shelter that has to adopt
out because they cannot hold animals.
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:Some shelters have no choice but to adopt
out unaltered animals with a contract.
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:It is what it is.
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:And I'm not judging it, is
our availability to be able
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:to spay and neuter everything.
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:So we are going to spay
and neuter everything.
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:We can do it, so we are
gonna do it, but it is rare.
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:It's not all the time
that you can do that.
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:Dixie: Thank you so much for
speaking with us and I learned a lot.
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:It's a lot of things about the
shelter that I did not know.
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:It almost sounds like you're
a rescue instead of a shelter.
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:Kelsey: We run like one.
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:But at the end of the day, we are
still there for public safety.
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:Not being animal control has aided
a lot and us being able to do the
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:things that we do we are working on
getting animal control for the parish.
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:Our parish needs animal control.
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:It does not have it right now.
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:And that's something
we're working towards.
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:And obviously once we become
animal control, things may change.
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:But we're hoping that, we can
still do what we're doing and maybe
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:expand the shelter, get more runs,
get more employees, have a bigger
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:volunteer base that's willing to,
do physical stuff in the shelter.
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:And if they're willing to do that and come
out and, I don't see us changing too much.
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:I just see us expanding in the future.
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:Dixie: Yeah.
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:The more animals you can help, definitely.
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:The better.
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:Kelsey: Absolutely.
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:Dixie: All right, thank you so much.
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:Kelsey: Yeah, thank you
guys so much for having me.
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:Dixie: And that's all the time
we have for today's episode.
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:If you are in animal rescue, or if
you know someone that has a story that
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:should be told, please contact us.
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:We would love to have
you or them on the show
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:. Thanks for listening, and please
join us next week as we continue to
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:explore the world of animal rescue.