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Dallas Burnett | Leadership and Change: Reviving a Failing Company with Vision and Innovation
Episode 9016th June 2026 • The Last 10% • Dallas Burnett
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Host Dallas Burnett thanks listeners as The Last 10% nears 100 episodes and then announces major behind-the-scenes projects. He shares the rollout of Perforam and plans to combine it with the 1on1's Coaching System into a performance management suite focused on team growth. Dallas also reveals that his team acquired a failing publishing company on July 1, 2025, and has spent 11.5 months rebuilding it, tackling antiquated systems, excessive costs, fragmented accounting, overstaffing, poor collections (including $6.4M in bad debt), and a defeated remote culture. He introduces authorservices.com as the new home for revamped imprints, outlines a story shift toward quality, ethical AI use, and stronger marketing, and describes building a custom ERP, new products, a hybrid publishing partnership launching in the fall, and upcoming tools, including an author publishing app, event app, and marketing education for authors.

If you have been interested in publishing a book or marketing a book you've published, check out www.AuthorServices.com!

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Hey, everybody.

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The Last Ten Percent has been growing in its listenership lately, so I wanted

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to take a minute as we are rolling through, oh, man, we're closing in on

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100 episodes, which is so exciting.

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And so as we get close to that huge milestone for us, 100 episode mile marker,

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we just want to say thank you so much for all our listeners who tune in to The

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Last Ten Percent every other Tuesday.

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We wanna make this information free, for everyone so that you

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can live well and finish strong.

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hear the episode, and it puts us out there, and so we just wanna ask that.

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As we start this episode, just wanna say that.

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Now, on with the show.

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We have made an announcement several months ago, if you're a regular listener

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to The Last Ten Percent, that we had some big news coming, and guess what?

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Today's the day, so you don't want to miss this incredible conversation

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Welcome to The Last 10%.

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Your host, Dallas Burnett, dives into incredible conversations that will inspire

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you to finish well and finish strong.

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Listen as guests share their journeys and valuable advice on living in the last 10%.

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If you are a leader, a coach, a business owner, or someone looking to

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level up, you are in the right place.

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Remember, you can give 90% effort and make it a long way, but it's finding

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out how to unlock the last 10% that makes all the difference in your life,

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your relationships, and your work.

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Now, here's Dallas.

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Welcome, welcome, welcome.

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I am Dallas Burnett sitting in my 1905 Koch Brothers barber

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chair in Thrive Studios.

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But more importantly today, we have some great things to talk about.

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I mean, it has been a whirlwind.

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I cannot express to you how many things that we have been into over

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the last 11 months, actually 11 and a half, almost a year to the day, that

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we have been in- working on secret behind the scenes projects that we

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have not made public until today.

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So for our listeners of The Last 10%, we are just totally

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pulling the curtains back.

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We're letting everybody know what we've been working on.

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So you know that we have been designing, you know, I've been in the IT space and

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software development space for a long time, even before Think Move Thrive.

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And so we had been, launching the one-on-one coaching system, which

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was great and kind of filled a need, and that's been going really well.

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And then we had one of our clients say, this was several years ago, "Hey,

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you've been helping consulting-wise with helping us build a performance

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management system around different aspects of employee development."

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So we had the one-on-one coaching system, but we needed things like, you

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know, well, how do we do these annual reviews well, 'cause most people don't.

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And how do we give raises with clarity and walk people through

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setting goals and all that stuff.

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So we created what's called ProForum, and that software product rolled out in

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the spring, and it's going really well.

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And, we finished beta testing, and then we finished rollouts and our first client

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with that, and now we're gonna this fall probably roll that out together.

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But the only reason we haven't done so yet is because we're combining

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the one-on-one coaching system with ProForum, so it's this kind of whole…

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entire performance management, suit that is not just about payroll,

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because there's a lot of companies out there that can run your payroll.

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there's a lot of companies out there that can store documents,

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onboard your employees.

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Those are, you know, definitely HR management, and it comes from that

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kind of administrative needs from your HR staff that they need, and

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they're absolutely fundamental.

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You have to have that.

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in the zone that we love to play in is how can we take your team and set

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systems in place that continually make your team better, continue to

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make your team grow and develop?

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Is it possible for a business and organization to systematize

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growth and development of their teams, and how does that work with

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a performance management system?

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And we love it.

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We love ProForum, and we love what we've created, and so do our clients.

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And so, it's been cool to see that project.

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So that was going on.

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At the same time that was going on, we had an opportunity that

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was presented to us last July.

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Actually, it was last, last spring, but it took shape in July.

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And that is a publishing company.

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As you guys know, as listeners to The Last Ten Percent, I've written

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three books, and- You know, never saw myself as a writer, but always

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enjoyed the creative process.

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So whether I was writing songs or whether I was writing books, or whether

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I'm creating, content or even software, it's just always this creative process.

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And so after you've gone through the process of doing this several

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times, though, you kind of feel more familiar with the, idea and the kind

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of the business side of publishing.

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And so we were presented with an opportunity.

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There was a company that was failing, and it was actually failing pretty severely.

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it was losing seven figures every year, and it was owned by a publicly traded

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company who was trying to, let's just be honest, it was trying to get rid of it.

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It was trying to cut its losses.

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It was trying to sell this underperforming asset.

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And so one thing led to another and here I am.

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I get approached by, this company and we get into negotiations, and we ended up

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buying this publishing company last July.

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And so immediately our team starts growing because they had a lot of employees

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and so, I wanna start this by just saying, first of all, I wanna unpack

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some ideas tonight because if you're leading a team or you're taking over a

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team, we always talk about the last 10%.

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We always talk about how to live well and finish strong, and you can

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do that in spite of the fact that you may be in an environment, and

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I think this is the message today.

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You may be in an environment and everything around you may not be

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operating in the last 10%, right?

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It may not be operating, the environment, the systems, the processes, the teams,

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the people, service, the capabilities.

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All of these things may not be operating in that because when you're living in

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the last 10%, you take on challenges, you're not afraid to move into a little

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bit of chaos, especially if you're an entrepreneur, if you're a leader.

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Sometimes we're called to step into these zones and these areas of chaos

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where we don't really have clarity, or we have clarity, but we're put into

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an environment that is not ideal, and that's what leadership is all about.

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It's about how do we bring this order to chaos?

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How do we bring clarity to confusion?

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These are the things that we're doing as leaders.

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We're constantly doing it with our teams.

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We're constantly doing it in our businesses and our work.

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Sometimes, though, it's just a little extra crazy, and that is the

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story of this publishing company.

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We took this publishing company over on July 1st, 2025, and Oh,

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man, it was… What a crazy ride.

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I've been flying to Florida, every week.

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for three months, I flew every week to Florida.

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and my home base is not in Florida, been down there now, and now I'm

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flying down about every other week while we're just getting everything

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in place and everything set up.

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Just to go through, like what does it look like?

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If you've ever wondered about buying a company or, you know, I related to

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somebody, somebody said, you bought a company, but it wasn't doing well." I

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said, yeah, it's kind of like if you were to buy a house that was on fire.

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Obviously, you can get a very good deal because who buys a house, a lot of

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people won't even buy a house if it's not completely furnished and finished and

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ready to go walk in, turnkey, ready to go.

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some people have the stomach to go, as I have in the past, go and buy fixer-uppers,

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and you're gonna flip the house.

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You're gonna go in, you're gonna make the repairs, you're gonna do it, and

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then you're gonna flip the house and you make money on it because you are

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the one that takes it from really ugly, house to dollhouse, and then all of

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a sudden everybody wants to buy it.

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there's that seeing that value, the raw value, the bones.

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Like, where is the value in what I've just purchased?

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And then being able to capitalize that on and just open that up so everybody

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else can see the value But then there's times where it would be like if you

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were gonna buy a house and it literally was on fire, there's not a lot of

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people that's yeah, that's my kinda, that's my kinda deal right there."

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The whole kitchen is just completely burning out right now.

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I can call the fire department and let's go on this thing, right?

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And that's the, that's the situation that we walked into on this organization.

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So we definitely inherited a mess.

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It was, I would say 70% of the mess was known.

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there's always a percentage that's unknown.

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when you see these remodeling shows and they rip the wall off and they're like,

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"We're gonna replace this." And they rip the wall off and go, "Oh, my goodness.

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I didn't know there was this pipe here and it was running right through

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the middle of the living room that we're opening up," and, "Oh, my

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gosh," and it's this bam, bam, bam.

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This whole thing during the television show where you're like, "I don't know

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if we're gonna make the remodel," right?

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we've definitely had our moments in that over the last year.

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But I'm gonna tell you some of the things, like if you walk into a system like this,

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I'm gonna share some details because feel like you've been with me for a long time.

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Almost 100 episodes.

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Several years if you've been listening the last 10%.

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So we're just gonna let you in on some things that we,

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wouldn't normally talk about.

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This is the, uh, reverse resume.

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You know, I was listening to a Navy SEAL one time, and he was

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speaking at one of our conferences.

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And, amazing stories.

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Oh, my goodness.

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If you ever have a chance to corner a Navy SEAL and there's no cameras,

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and it's not being recorded, you know you're in for some amazing stories.

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And so he was telling some stories.

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One of the things, though, he had started a business and he talked about

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how he asked anybody that was applying for the company to, for their resume.

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And he would take the resume and look at it, and it's all this, all the good stuff.

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"I was here, and I went up there, and I saved this much money. I made this

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much money, and da, da, da, da. I got promoted here." And then he'd just

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push it back, and then he'd hand them his, what he called reverse resume.

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Thought that was a fascinating idea.

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He's like- All that stuff you put on your resume just

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sounds good, but it's not real.

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I wanna know all the things that went sideways, that didn't go right,

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that, that went wrong, the job that you lost or the project that didn't

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work or that failed, or the promotion you didn't get, all these things.

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And he would literally pass his reverse, his own personal reverse resume across

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the table, and then ask them to go back and rewrite their resume or speak to

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their resume and make a reverse resume.

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And that's what he would do 'cause he wanted to know

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, essentially their battle scars.

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Who am I going into the foxhole with?

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What's their battle scars and experience?

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Not just the highlight reel.

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I wanna know the lowlight reel.

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I wanna know what nobody else knows and what nobody else sees.

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I thought that was fascinating.

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So today we're doing a little reverse resume because I'm gonna share some

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dirty laundry with you from this publishing company that we picked up.

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Now we now have created a new entity called authorservices.com because we

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purchased this publishing company, and it's essentially becoming something that

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it's not, it's, it wasn't this… Author Services did not exist before, so that's

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not the name of the company we purchased.

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But we purchased, the authorservices.com because Author Services is gonna

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be the new home of some of these imprints and the services that we're

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offering because it's so different.

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We just are creating something so different than what I'm

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about to share with you.

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We couldn't even say the same thing because it's literally, we've gone

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kind of dark for the last 11 months to recreate this company virtually

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from scratch, and I'll tell you why.

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first of all, when I walked in, noticed very quickly we had an antiquated systems.

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the phone system was antiquated.

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The office furniture, heck, was just old and just needed replacing.

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Most of the chairs had holes in them and stuff.

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And then the computer system was probably, while it functioned, it was something

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that you couldn't integrate with.

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It wasn't, user friendly.

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It was very difficult.

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It was very, t- labor intensive, hard to get data out of, and,

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It was just very difficult.

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So it was taking a lot of time and effort and energy just to keep it going, They

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had tried to replace it two or three times, failed doing so, and when I say

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failed, they failed pretty spectacularly.

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the public company bought this company, I believe, in 2008 from the founder,

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who founded it actually in 2000.

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And, and so they just had not invested in technology.

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They had not invested in a lot of things.

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So it was just antiquated.

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Everything was old.

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we had complexity like you just don't even understand.

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So because the computer system that housed all this data, when you think

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about it, we have over 20,000 authors that this company has published

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that are active authors right now.

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20,000, that's a lot of authors, but when you think about all the design

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files, the multiple iterations of book covers and editing files and thousands

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and thousands and millions of pages of words, the size of the data is massive.

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We're talking terabytes, tens, more than 20 terabytes of data.

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And if you know data, you know that's a lot of data.

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So managing this data in a system that was antiquated was creating a lot of problems.

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Then they kind of exacerbated their problems.

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For example And they wouldn't clean up things.

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So, like, When I went in, I said, "Okay, we gotta figure out these landing

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pages. Where are our leads coming from?" And different things like that.

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So we opened it up and opened up the hood of the car and said,

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"Okay, what do we got here?"

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And we opened up the landing page managing system that they used.

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There was 5,900 landing pages.

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That means, like, when you have a landing page, you say, "Okay, we're gonna give

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a free guide away" or, "We're gonna have a spring sale," or, "We're gonna…"

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They would just do a landing page and then if it was spring of 2017 and they

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needed a new landing page in the fall of 2017, they would just leave the

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spring one there and start another one.

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And so how do you manage and keep up 5,900 landing pages?

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We didn't even know, we couldn't even find the landing pages

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that leads were coming through.

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in all of that mess, we couldn't even tell which pages actually had people coming in

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and saying, "Hey, we wanna get a book."

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So this this is a very big mess They were overpaying for a lot of technology.

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They had technology layered on technology.

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So they had this older antiquated system that was their project management,

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production management system, data house.

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And then they had a CRM system, and I won't name any names, but

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it's a very large company that you would all know in CRM land.

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If you have a sales management system, I promise you would know this one.

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It's one of the most known CRM systems out there.

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They had 14 salespeople, and they were spending over $100,000 a year

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on subscribing to this CRM system.

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Oh my goodness.

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That is a ridiculous amount of money, for a CRM system that was

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out of the box, not customized.

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So there was just money going out there as well.

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we had too many team members.

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They had over-hired through COVID because there was a lot of people… I

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don't know if you know this or not, but a lot of books exploded during COVID

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because everybody's staying at home.

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And so everybody started writing books, and so then they over-hired during

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that season where their production went up, and then they never kind of

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right-sized their business post-COVID, and that was a large part of why

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they were suffering financially.

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they had multiple different accounting systems, like they had

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QuickBooks Desktop, and they had some of it on QuickBooks Online,

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and they had some of it in neither.

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Some of it in the a- antiquated, computer production system.

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So they're having to go to all these different systems every month just

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to kinda keep the plates spinning, and it was extremely hard to get

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an accurate financial picture of what was going on because data

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was in so many different places.

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Now, this is a good one, and for those of you that are in IT, we had

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over 20 servers at the same time for a business that, when I took over

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on July 1st, had about 40 employees.

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So we had almost a server for every two employees.

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A server, not a computer.

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We had almost- A server for every two employees.

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In case you don't know, that is overkill.

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We do not need that many servers.

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We're already down, I think we're down to, four to six servers.

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We've been consolidating data, and the goal is to get it down to one or none.

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But we will have it down soon.

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It's just so much data and all over the place.

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It's taking us a little while to consolidate those.

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But we've dropped those down.

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Now, they're paying… A lot of those were not, they didn't own them.

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They didn't have, a room full of servers.

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These were servers they were renting and paying for their space.

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So again, just tremendous cost every single month.

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did really not great job at collecting, money that authors owed.

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In fact, as of March, this particular company, was owed, and I didn't

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find this out until after this year.

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because of the systems and antiquatedness of it, they

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didn't have good record keeping.

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So as we're putting all this stuff together and cleaning everything

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up, it's like every week you'd find something else and be like, "Oh, my gosh.

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What did that… Just happened." Like, "Oh, what is this?" And so I felt like

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every time I would go in there, I'm like, "What are we gonna find today?

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What are we gonna find today?

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What are we gonna turn over?

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What rock are we gonna turn over today?" And so one rock we turned over

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about, probably three months ago, four months ago, was that, we had six point

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four million dollars in uncollected just bad debt, and this was people

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that had not paid us for f- 10 years.

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Some of them are not even alive anymore, and they just never followed up with them.

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the company that had owned this company, if somebody stopped paying, their annual

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renewal subscription 'cause, their books, it has a little fee every year because

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there's a cost associated with maintaining this book and keeping it published.

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It's not a exorbitant cost, just a small cost, and so they have

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this small annual renewal fee.

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And some of them had not even finished paying for the book,

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meaning they had a book published, never finished paying for it, and

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then they somehow got it published.

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And then they never, they just stopped paying, and their book was still out.

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So unbelievable.

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Can you imagine that?

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I told the team, I said, "Do you realize that Netflix, that there's

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probably people that, that owe this company more money than Netflix."

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Because Netflix will turn your account off if you don't pay, and we don't.

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We just keep on going.

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And so amazing.

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It's hard to run a business like that because that money is going to

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pay people's salaries, and so then, you don't have customer service

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because you don't have enough because you're not getting paid, and you

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don't know why you don't have enough and you're feeling overwhelmed.

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it's because you're not doing a good job managing, your revenue.

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And so, we just had, a lot of problems like that.

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And the other thing is that was caused by some really horrible yeah,

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I guess what I would say is systems that was put into place, and I think

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they were put into place because they wanted to do the right thing or I

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guess you'd say do the right thing.

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They wanted to… It was, it seemed like more of a sales-driven organization.

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So they really wanted to close deals, and they were thinking, how

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could we close more book deals?

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How could we compete and close more deals?" And what they came up with

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was a system where essentially they just kept lowering the price of the

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publishing package lower and lower and lower to get people to start, and then

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they would put it on a payment plan.

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But they're not a bank, and so they would say, "Okay, we'll just do, we

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won't do interest 'cause we're trying to get people to start." So ultimately,

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they got it down to where they were offering publishing packages for

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$150 This is on a $5,000 publishing package at that time And there's

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different ranges in published packages.

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I just picked $5,000 'cause it, it goes up and down.

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It may be, it may have been 2,500, it could've been 9,000, but, between that,

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let's say average is, 4 or $5,000.

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So if it was a 4 or $5,000 publishing package, you could get that publishing

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package for $150, and then you'd have a 23-month, I think, payment

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plan, interest-free, no credit check.

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now you can imagine what happens when you do that.

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You have many, many authors who have, a lot of expectations on how their book

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is gonna perform and, you know, maybe it doesn't, but there's a lot of authors

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that got to the finish line on that and said, "Okay, we've launched our book."

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Maybe it was three months later, and they've turned in their manuscript,

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they've paid for the package, they've launched their book three months later.

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It's gone through the editing and the graphic design, the

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typesetting, all that stuff.

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It comes out three to six months later, and it doesn't

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do like what they want it to.

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It may have sold a lot, may have sold a little bit.

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It doesn't meet their expectations, and they go, "You know what? I, I'm

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not gonna do this anymore," and they just stop paying on their payment plan.

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now they've only paid $150 down.

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They may be paying a couple hundred, two or $300 a month on

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a $5,000 payment package, which, by the way, the salesperson got

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compensated for right up front.

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you had to pay the graphic designers and all the editors and all those

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things a- all while they're doing it over that three-month period of time.

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So over the period of three months, they had collected probably $500,

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maybe $600 on a $5,000 book deal.

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The company, the way I figured it up when I took over, was losing

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at least $1,000 per book that they sold, and they sold over 1,000 books.

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It was way over 1,000.

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1,000, over 1,000 books a year in book deals, and they were losing

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$1,000 a book that they sold because of all these bad systems.

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So, lastly, I would say this is something that I was just, have had to also look

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at and figure out how we can change and change and improve is that there was a,

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I would say, dissociated, maybe a little bit apathetic, and defeated culture.

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and when I say that, I'm not saying that to say that the team

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members- were bad team members.

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In fact, there's amazing team members, but the environment that they were forced

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into in this kind of corporate malaise, you would have these things that, that

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after COVID, it was all remote work.

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And so the c- team chemistry that they had, and the parties and the fun and

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the, the game dress-up days or the picnics and stuff, it just evaporated.

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It never came back.

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And, also what never came back was this ability that you could con-

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you had some say in what's going on.

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So if this computer system wasn't working, then it just wasn't working.

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and the likelihood was that it probably would never work, and there was nothing

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you could do, no matter how much you complained or troubleshot the issues

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or came up with a solution yourself.

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It really didn't matter.

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They were just not listened to, and there was just nothing.

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It was just kinda "Just go back into your, little, you know, uh, fiefdom

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and do your job, and thank you very much." And, now, the, it wasn't

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like, that it was a negative culture.

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I will say, a really positive.

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The leadership was always trying to send out positive messages.

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But that's a real difficult thing when you're trying to send out

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positive messages, but it's not aligning with the changes that

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are necessary in the organization.

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So then it can come across as either, nobody can focus on work because it's

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like, "Let's just talk about something else. How you, how you doing in your

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home life and your personal life?" and we got, you know, leaders that was coaching

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people in their personal lives because this is a, it's a whole lot easier to

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talk about that mess than it is about…

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'cause we can change something there.

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We might not can change anything here.

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and so it's just really strange.

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It was a strange, dynamic, culturally.

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And, and so this is what we inherited.

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And you say, "Why in the world would you do this, Dallas?" And that's

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exactly what I went to Ingram.

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There was a, it's one of the largest book printers in, they distribute

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and print books all over the world.

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It probably I heard one number, I don't know if it's true, but they said

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it was 70% of all books printed and distributed in the world are printed

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and distributed through Ingram.

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And they, have one of their manufacturing plants in Nashville, Tennessee.

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So I drove up since they print our and distribute our books as well.

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I drove up to Nashville to meet with them.

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And the lady, I was just, the marketing lady looked at me and said, "You're

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an entrepreneur." I'm like, yeah."

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"You're in technology." yeah." She's "Why in the world would you pick to buy

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this publishing company?" And I was like, "Man, that's a… You're in the business.

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What are you doing?

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You should be an advocate for this." I was just dumbfounded that she asked me that

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question, but I told her, I said, "This is a really interesting intersection."

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And I'll say this to this team.

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difficulties are not always, a problem in the sense that they're, they are a

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problem, but it's not a, it's not a bad problem because I find it invigorating

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when you can go in and solve problems that are in areas that are changing.

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And the publishing industry, if you think about it, from the publishing

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press, has been pretty consistent.

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I would actually consider the publishing industry to be kinda sleepy.

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a sleepy industry, There's not a lot of changes in the last

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bit, but man, it's changing now because of something called AI.

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Artificial intelligence is changing a lot of things, and I'll tell you some

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facts about the publishing industry That make it interesting to me and

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as an entrepreneur and bringing this.

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And also you guys know as The Last Ten Percent we love turning culture around.

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That's what we do.

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And so if I'm gonna create a performance management system and a coaching

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system, I better believe that we can turn cultures around and we can grow

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and develop people or, I mean, hey, I'm not, I'm just not drinking the Kool-Aid.

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So I thought it was an awesome opportunity 'cause the team was great.

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I thought the people were great.

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They were hungry for change.

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They were wanting something new and, that's what we did.

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So one of the interesting things, before I get to the changing of the story, one

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of the interesting things that struck me was the need for technology in the

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publishing industry for the industry, not just, on the front side like websites that

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are pretty designed to help you sign up for, getting a book package or whatever.

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That's all necessary.

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but real technology on the backside to make the actual process more simple.

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So that's what I told Ingram.

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I said, "Look, man." I said, "I see an opportunity here because there's…" the

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publishing industry's very complicated.

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If you've never published a book before, you can't really

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fathom the number of decisions.

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It's almost if you were gonna, build a house.

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If you've ever built a house and, the architect or the builder's

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coming to you and he's "No, where do you want this outlet?

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Okay, what kind of cover do you want?" "Okay, what, where

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do you want the light placed?

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how many of those?

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What kind of light?

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What are the…" And it's just like a million details that you really don't

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even think about until you start having to do it, and you're like, "Oh, my-,"

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if I gotta answer another question.

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That's kinda like publishing a book.

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There's all kind of different decisions that you have to make as

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you go through the publishing process.

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And so those decisions gets translated b- on the backside in

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the publishing industry, it's very difficult because there's other

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things like royalty management and all these things that make it actually

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fairly complicated, and there's not a lot of people that do it well.

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there's a ton of people who do it poorly.

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And so I see that as an opportunity and so as an entrepreneur that's why

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I was interested in this particular, business and this particular industry.

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And so it's not necessarily about publishing.

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It's more, for me, it's about publishing and helping this particular company,

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but also using that information that we gain from the publishing company

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to leverage that for technology, and I'll tell you about that in a minute.

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But one of the things that we found out was that we needed to change the story.

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if you're listening to The Last Ten Percent, we talk a lot and we hear a lot

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from leaders and their stories, and we want to pull those stories from people

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that have done amazing things, people that are living in the last 10%, in that top

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10%, living well and finishing strong.

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Because if we can glean something from their story that matches reality and

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describes it better than our current story, the hope is that we can shift

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and change our story and operate better in reality to get better results.

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And I know as leaders that's what you're doing for your teams, is that

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you're trying to shape their stories.

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We always talk about with our coaches in the one-on-one system, we're talking

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about having a battle for belief.

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We always want to battle for belief and that sounds weird.

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What are you talking about, battle for belief?

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It's that I'm battling with the people that I manage, with the people that

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I'm coaching, I am battling for their belief to help them shape or reshape

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or craft a belief that aligns really well with reality and helps them

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function successfully in this reality.

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Because the stories we tell ourselves don't necessarily

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have to be true all the time.

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And then when we tell ourselves stories that's not true,

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we tend to get in trouble.

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For example, a story this company was telling itself before last July was,

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"You have to give books away really cheap with no-interest loans for 24

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months to get people to buy." I could talk somebody in off the street that

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didn't even write a book on that, and that's what they were doing.

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"Hey, you wanna write a book?

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It may be a bestseller.

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You never know.

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For $150, you can find out." Hey, that's not a hard sell, right?

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That's a much, that's a much easier sell than finding somebody who has a

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manuscript done that has been working on it for six months and wants to, wants to

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take the, t-take it to the next level.

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the other thing is that they said AI is bad.

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a year ago, barely a year ago, they were telling their employees

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for the year before that this new thing of AI is, it's, you just don't

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need to, don't need to focus on it.

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It's just, this is not for us.

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it's evil, Now, I'm not saying that there's not some things that

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we're going to find, and we haven't already, as we move through the,

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age of artificial intelligence, that is going to be negative.

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It's like when Google came out and the internet came out and all of a sudden

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you had just access to information all over the globe instantly.

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There were some pluses and minuses that came with that too.

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So trust me, I'm not just rosy colored glasses on AI.

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totally see there, there's a lot of different ways this could go sideways

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that could really hurt humanity.

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On the other side- It is here.

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It is not, it doesn't seem like it's slowing down.

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It seems like it's picking up.

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it's going faster, and if we're going to engage with it, I'd rather at least

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understand it so if the wheels come off the rails, I at least understand

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more of how that's happening, when it's happening, than just saying,

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"I don't wanna know about it.

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I don't wanna know about it.

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Mm, ba, ba, ba, ba, ba, ba, ba, ba." You know?

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And then, and then all of a sudden it comes off and I'm caught off guard.

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So what we've done is change that story.

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Number one, we said, "Hey look, we have a quality product. We have

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excellent service. We want to pair that with great authors." And we have

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great authors, but we were creating systems that made other authors,

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maybe come in that, were not ready.

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And so not bad people, just not ready to be authors.

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And so we've corrected those systems.

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The other story that we changed is, "Hey look, we don't need to ignore AI.

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We need to embrace AI, but the industry is struggling right now because of

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AI." So we need to come up with a, way that we can do this ethically?

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Because, I was reading an article the other day, from a national news agency

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that said there was a publishing company, I think it was in Korea, There was a

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publishing company in South Korea that published like 9,000 books in one year.

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Just went from nothing to 9,000 books.

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And I don't even think it was with other authors.

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I think it was just they did it.

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They published 9,000 books.

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And they were saying it brought up a lot of ethical issues because they

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just think they ran AI, just p- just churned out copy after copy after

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copy, and flooded those books in the hopes that one of the titles might hit.

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one of the things that they did might hit, and it just sell.

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They don't care that it's quality or get bad reviews.

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They don't care.

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They're just pumping out content.

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and that is not At all how I would suggest that we engage and

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use AI in the publishing process.

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And so that is another reason that interests me, is that we can change our

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story and say, "How do we use AI in the publishing industry to offer exponentially

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better service to our clients, but at the same time not take out the human

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element of creativity and experience?"

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That just, you cannot capture that in AI, and AI is not as good

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of as a creative as humans are.

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When you ask it to write, you can say, "Hey, AI, write me a

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book on this," and it'll do it.

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And, you can tell it whatever you want, but the problem is

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it comes out as pretty vanilla.

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it comes out as pretty…

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Actually, it's pretty rough.

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it's not a… you kinda get bored of reading it after about, a page

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and a half 'cause you're like, "Okay, there's no life here," right?

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So we can't replace the human element in that process, but AI is a super

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tool that we can use and integrate.

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So that is all the things that we're unpacking, and we've been unpacking

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those questions for the last year So how do we change this business?

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if I stepped into this with this team a year ago, what have we done in the last

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11 and a half months to make it better?

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And what are we currently doing?

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And then what's the next six months look like?

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'Cause we're just now getting almost to the start line.

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first of all, if you step into an environment, and this is what I

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would say for the teams out there, if you're stepping into an environment

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and you are promoted into a mess.

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You know, I was talking to a person one time, he was working for a

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restaurant company, I won't name it, it's a national chain, you would all

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know about it, and he said, "Hey, they're putting me in this restaurant

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because the last owner just wrecked it.

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it was just a, it was a hot, hot mess,

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And they were dropping me in this environment." And so when he goes in on

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day one, he better have some kind of a plan or structure, some type of a model

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that he's gonna use, to start shifting.

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Now, in an episode back, I can't even remember, I think it was in, back in the

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fall, I talked about four things that we were doing, eliminating unnecessary

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complexity, eliminating unnecessary cost.

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those are two of the four.

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You can go back and listen to a former episode, like past

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episode, to see the other two.

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But those were four, the model that we were taking.

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during this process, I was applying those four things to this company.

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But I would say that there are some other things that I would like to say

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t- today that we were doing and we've done over the last 11 and a half months

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that we're trying to create and get to.

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And this is what I would say these four things are.

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Number one, we have to change our story.

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If you're in a failing operation, you've got to start changing the story,

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meaning changing how people see things, changing how people think about things.

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At our company now, we're changing the way that people see work, and

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we're bringing people back together.

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So it's yeah, I know you've been working at home, but like, I

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want to experience your energy.

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I want to, I want you to experience my energy.

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I want us to get together and have some synergy together and collaborate

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at the company office because there's so many good things that come out of

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the room when you're in it together.

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And so pulling people back together so we can have this energy, this empathy

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for each other, this kind of passion and share this passion, and also see each

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other share gifts that we didn't know.

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That, somebody's planning a party, somebody has an idea, somebody has a

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new, thought for a product or service.

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Those things were not happening because everybody was disassociated,

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just off on their own.

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The second thing is we're finding and creating wins.

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So we started building a brand-new custom-made ERP system that takes

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everything from the CRM through production, through accounting, through

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an author portal, so our authors are gonna have this portal that they can see all

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their royalties and all this other stuff.

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It's incredible.

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It's incredible.

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And we're finally in the kinda final stages of testing.

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We've got about a month and a half more to go before we roll

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out the fl- last pieces of it.

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We've already got the CRM going, the production going, working

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on the accounting, and finishing up the author portal right now.

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So we're really excited about that.

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That's a win, and when the sales team finally gets to experience and see

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this new CRM system that's custom-made, that does exactly what they wanna do,

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man, that's exciting, and that's a win We've got a lot of new products.

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we've got new products that we've currently put out, new services,

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and we've got some that's in the pipeline that's coming later this

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year that we're really excited about.

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Those are wins.

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We're redesigning the websites.

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We've got the new author services website, that's authorservices.com.

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And then we're redesigning all the imprint websites.

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So Morning Star Press is one of the imprints and, we've got other

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imprints that, that have websites and messages and things like that.

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And even over the course of the summer, we're going to be,

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redesigning and re-messaging all those websites to the new way.

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So those are wins.

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And, and finding new revenue streams.

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So we, are expanding our ability to generate revenue from just, $150 down,

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and then half those people don't end up paying, to other opportunities

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to, to serve authors and serve the community and generate revenue.

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So very, very big, but you need to find those wins because this culture

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had been so accustomed of not winning.

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It's almost like this self… you just keep on going through this malaise.

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There's no energy there.

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So we need wins, and so we start winning, and you start seeing

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the culture come together around that rally, around those wins.

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I would say thirdly, we're not afraid of technology, and we're embracing,

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like I said, custom-built ERPs, but we're also integrating artificial

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intelligence in business systems and processes right now to help our workflow.

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we've reduced, all kind of… I mean, there's, there's so many metrics

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I can't go into on this podcast.

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But we've sped up so many different things.

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We've cut out so much red tape, and we're moving projects through

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so much cleaner now and so much faster, just using artificial

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intelligence in a lot of cool ways.

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we're also using technology to capture conversations so that when clients call

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in and the salesperson says something, and s- gives them this deal, it is

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capturing that so that the production person knows and it's not like the

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salesperson forgot to type it in.

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We can do that and capture that information and make sure that

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information's passed on to production so that there's no gaps in our service

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we can also do a better job utilizing technology, and this is one of the cool

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things that we're gonna be rolling out later this year when the author portal

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is finished, completely, is that we're gonna be rolling out more education.

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So we created a lot of educational material first half of this year, and

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we're gonna putting that into videos and things like that in the author portal.

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So when you log on to your author portal, one of the most frustrating

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things for new authors is they log in, and they're excited because they

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just signed this publishing deal, and they're like, "Man, I'm ready to get in."

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But they have no idea of the journey that's, in front of them,

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and so then it just starts hitting them like a brick in the face.

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bam, and it's all this stuff, and it's usually surprises.

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And so what we wanna do is we wanna give these valuable insights

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with at least less surprises.

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If they don't read them, then it'll be a surprise.

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But we wanna make sure that all the information's there for our authors so

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that on that author portal, they can have these insights and go through and

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understand and feel like they really got a good feel and knowledge of the publishing

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process, not only how we do it, but in general And, and then partnerships.

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This is another thing.

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we reached out to, a friend of mine, and he has been in the, publishing

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business for a long, long time, and we're starting a hybrid publishing company.

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These imprints under author services are mainly self-publishing imprints,

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meaning you can, get publishing services and you own 100% of the

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royalties of the book that you publish.

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Hybrid publishing is a little different.

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There's, it's, it's I would say more of a white glove publishing.

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You have a lot of authors like CEOs or, large church pastors or heads of state.

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these are people that They may not have this massive following that would go with

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the traditional route, but they want their book to look like it's on, it or could be

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actually, 'cause distribution would put it on the shelf in like a Barnes & Noble.

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and so it's more expensive, but it's something that's, very good, high quality.

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And so we're actually partnering with him to open up our own hybrid

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publishing company in the fall as well.

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So third and fourth quarter's gonna be really busy with that.

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And so, man, those are all the things that

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We've been fixing this company.

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We've been doing the last 10%.

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We've been working on the new performance management platform

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and rolling that out with clients.

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So the team has been cooking.

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We have been busy.

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And so we're just so excited because things are coming together.

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And what I love about it is this company that we purchased was

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supporting over 20,000 authors globally, and those books were going to get

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essentially unpublished if we did not do something and help this company.

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And so for me, it's just a really cool opportunity to be able to step in and,

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just be able to hopefully, continue to add some needed change to this organization,

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changing the story, increasing technology and how this company utilizes it.

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Because we're going from a company that was not functioning well to a

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company that's known for excellence.

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And so I wanna talk to you a little bit about that, 'cause if you've

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ever thought about reading, writing a book, I wanna tell you some

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statistics and some things I've learned because I have learned, and this is

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another reason I bought the company.

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I was like, "Hey, look, I've published three books." And some, you know, my first

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book sold, oh my gosh, next to nothing.

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and my second book did a lot better.

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And so you learn from the first, you go to the second.

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And third book did great too.

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I wanted to see who's the best, so I wanted to see what are the authors?

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Now wouldn't you like to look under the hood and say, "Hey, Random House,"

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or, "Hey, Zondervan," or, "Hey, what's Penguin, could you tell me how many books

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your most, your best authors are selling?

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And by the way, what are they doing?" hey, I got a list of 20,000 authors, and now I

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get to see what's working and what's not.

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I get to see who's selling and who's not.

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And so for me, it's just enlightening.

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And so here's some things that you may not know about the publishing

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industry that I'm telling you right now, and this is just me to you

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Number one, in the last year, the publishing industry went gangbuster.

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There was more books.

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There was over four million books published last year.

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That was a like a 32 or 36% increase in the number of books published

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in t- the last calendar year.

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Now, that is way bigger gains than anybody pred- projected two years before.

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Way bigger gains in book publishing.

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we're talking about, there should've been, like, a 5% increase maybe.

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And you might have seen things like e-books or audiobooks are growing at

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a higher rate or certain categories.

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like, I don't know, but anyway, at the end of the day, massive increase.

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So you g- so you have to wonder, and you sit back and say, "Why?

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if you don't know, I'm gonna tell you, and that is AI.

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Again, just like that publishing company in South Korea was like,

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"I'm gonna publish 9,000 books." They pumped out, 9,000 books in one year.

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AI has, it's influencing people and creating less friction to get

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from nothing to, a book, right?

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And you still gotta go and typeset it, and you gotta, you should have

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it edited because AI's great at grammar, but it's it's still not

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human, and it's still vanilla.

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That's my opinion.

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But, but if you go through that process, and you get the, everything

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done, then what you end up having, is a lot more books being put out there.

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But here is the problem, and this is what I wanna tell you as an author.

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If you're thinking about writing a book, which hey, I've written three.

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I'm working on my fourth, and it'll be out, hopefully later this year, maybe

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next year, maybe first quarter next year 'cause there's a lot going on right now.

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But, if you're writing a book, what you need to know is this.

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Last year, there was more books published, but there was not many more readers.

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So the actual numbers of books per title sold less.

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That means this.

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Let's say that the average book only sells 200 copies a title, 2,000 copies a title.

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Whatever you wanna put the number on.

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Let's say that number is the average per book.

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if it sold 200 copies in 2023 per title, of all the books that were

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sold, if you averaged out how many books sold per title, if it was

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200, in last year, it was 150.

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It dropped because there was so many more books published And if you think about

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your old economics lessons, supply and demand, when your, your supply goes up

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and the demand doesn't change, right?

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So at the end of the day, what we're seeing is this one of the effects of AI

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on the entire publishing industry is that content is just flooding the marketplace.

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And so what do you do as an author if you're thinking about writing a book?

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we've got to start shifting the way that we think about things, and this is

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where it gets a little bit interesting, and this is why Author Services

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is Author Services and then these publishing imprints are what it serves.

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Because Author Services is set up to serve authors, and it might be

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to serve an author to connect that author to an imprint, to connect

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them to an imprint that matches.

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If you're a faith-based author, we have Morning Star Press.

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If you're an author that writes a self-help or a guide or a recipe

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book or anything like that, if you're gardening or whatever, this

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kind of lifestyle education, Mill City Press is gonna be for you.

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If you're a FBI agent or a cop or a former military, then Liberty Hill Publishing is

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gonna be a perfect fit for you because, those are gonna be the kind of where

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the imprints are moving in the future.

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Over actually, they're already there, and we're just changing the language

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on the websites over the summer.

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so we can point you in that direction, but the biggest thing for an author

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is going to be moving forward.

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As we move into this new AI age, one of the biggest things is gonna be marketing.

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I'm just gonna tell you right now that you might have spent 80% of your time

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working on the book and 20% of your time marketing If that was the case five

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years ago, it's completely the opposite.

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You need to be spending 80% of the time marketing, and It's still a process,

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and great books are they're brutal.

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And I'm not saying that you can even spend less time writing the book.

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Don't get me wrong.

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I'm saying you gotta spend more time marketing the book.

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So whatever time you think that is to write the book, you're going to

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need to set the expectations that you have, even greater in this

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new age on marketing the book.

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So what does that mean?

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It means Author Services is gonna be partnering with you in the

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future to help that, and we're gonna be rolling some things out.

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Actually, on The Last 10%, Author Services may become, a very big sponsor of The

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Last 10%, along with some of the other technology that I'll be talking to you

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about that we have coming out this fall.

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Because part of this acquisition included some, development teams

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and development expertise that we just did not have before, and

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so we're developing a lot more.

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We're developing our ERP system, and, we're finishing up Perform,

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the integration with the 101s.

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one of the things that we're doing with Author Services to help is a

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publishing app for, for authors.

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It's gonna help you with the process of that.

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We're really excited about that.

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It is a sick tool.

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Wait till you see that.

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That'll be out later this year.

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And, and then also because I've been in Think Move Thrive, we've been doing

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leadership summits for many years now, I've just been just not happy with,

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the clunkiness, I don't know, the lack of I don't know, cool feel, and

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user-friendliness of conference apps, like event management conference apps.

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I just, I haven't enjoyed using them, and they're expensive, and, I don't know.

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It's just, it's not been good.

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So we have also, for the last few months, been working on that.

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If for no one else but me, we're doing it for me.

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So our new leadership summit will be running off this new conference app,

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this year, but we're gonna be able to roll that out to other people.

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So we have got so many things coming out over the next six to eight months.

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We've got technology coming out.

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We're rolling out all these revamps, imprints off of author services.

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We're gonna have a complete marketing package with a marketing mastermind

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class specifically for authors that want to do a really good job of selling

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their book after they get it published.

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Most authors, it's kinda like, you know, think about this like your wedding.

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You know when you get married, everybody's plans the first day of wedding.

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I had a guy tell me one time, he goes, "Man, I don't understand why so many

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people put, spend so much time planning the first day of their marriage, but

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they gotta be married for like 50 years, 60 years, 70 years after that, and they

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spend no time planning the rest of it."

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And he's like, "You would think they would spend more time planning

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the rest of it." And that's kinda what it is for book publishing.

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If you wanna publish a book, you gonna spend a ton of time getting to the actual

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finished copy, and there's nothing better, I can tell you, I've done it three times,

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than opening up that book the first time and pulling your book out of the package,

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the wrapping, the box, whatever it is it comes in, and seeing that book in print

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for the first time, it's a cool feeling.

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However, if that's the only thing that you plan for and that's the only point in

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time that you're working for, then you're probably not gonna get the results that

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you wanna get when you are selling your book to others so that they can experience

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your wonderful masterpiece and your work.

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So there has to be a lot of time put into marketing that book, and that

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is what we're gonna be all about, helping authors do at Author Services.

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we're gonna be taking a lot of the tools that we see working with other authors

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that are already doing a really great job, and we're gonna be taking some really

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cool tools that we're designing right now, some diagnostic tools to really

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help authors on their marketing journey and give them a roadmap to success.

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So that is what we've been working on.

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Thank you again for supporting Think Move Thrive, Thank you for listening

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to The Last 10% and thank you for just sharing all the encouragement, and we're

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just so thankful to have you on board.

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and just keep us in mind check out authorservices.com, and just know

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that when you get there, we're still working on stuff, so don't, don't,

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uh, don't judge it too harshly.

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We're gonna be changing a lot of stuff as we go through the rest of the

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summer, and then you'll start seeing a lot of new things come out this fall.

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And you know I always tell you, I tell The Last 10% first, so you guys are hearing

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it first thanks again, and thanks for being a listener of The Last Ten Percent

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