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Jacqui Garrison - Midlife Women's Coach - Osteoporosis Conqueror
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Jacqui is a health coach empowering women in midlife to live life to its fullest. Jacqui recently settled in San Diego CA after being mobile for almost 8 years traveling by boat and then RV full time. Jacqui is a proud lifelong learner. 

At 55 Jacqui retired after 25 years as an educator. During retirement and menopause, Jacqui was diagnosed with osteoporosis. Refusing to become old and frail Jacqui began a 3-year independent research study and went on to graduate from the Institute of Integrative Nutrition 2021. 

Jacqui has a passion for helping women understand our midlife bodies and how to live our best life while aging gracefully.  Jacqui loves to hike, fish, walk, and spend time with her husband, her amazing daughters, and her beautiful grandchildren.



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Hi and welcome to the You World Order Showcase program. Today we're talking with Jacqui Garrison. She's a certified health coach empowering women over 50 to live their best lives through holistic health, a career educator, lifelong learner who is passionate about helping women live. Confident, vibrant.

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Energetic and healthy lives in midlife.

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Please help me welcome Jackie.

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OK.

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Welcome to the show, Jackie.

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So we were just talking about, you know, the great things that happened twice this week.

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I'm expecting my grandson to be born here anytime now.

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Thrown right here.

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Is it your first?

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No, it's my 7th.

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Oh, wow. Congratulations. That's incredible.

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And the 8th one’s cooking

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Oh my God.

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I'm so excited.

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But you were talking about how things kind of work together synchronously.

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That Yep, that.

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With that word today.

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In the city.

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Yeah, I feel like.

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So much of my life and where I am today is a result of that. I was in education for 25 years and I I went to a level there that I no longer got joy from what I was doing. I ended up in a Department of Education, the State Department of Education.

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And like, you know chunked it all and moved to board of vote.

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With my husband.

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And, you know, roamed around for six years with that and then an RV.

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But during that time I got because of my own health concerns, got very interested in health and went back to school to become a health coach and.

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All of that, you know, all of that kind of, like, grew out of situations like my daughters at the time we're getting more into nutrition and my health was.

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Like, really concern, I was diagnosed with osteoporosis the very day I found out.

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I was definitely menopause.

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I was diagnosed with osteoporosis and that just angered me to know, I thought I'd always been healthy like.

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What the heck?

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But it's just like all of that flow and all of the learning that I did over the next three years because of that.

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And then going back to school to become a health coach at a time that really didn't make sense.

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I I didn't have a plan to work again, you know.

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I always knew I would want something more when we weren't cruising.

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And then, like COVID nikit, that was the opportunity to go back to school and then that came out and.

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It was like.

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I wanted to be a health coach so badly I wanted to help other women in midlife navigate what I had navigated on my own and really come out on the other.

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End for and so it just feels like like.

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When I'm open to the universe and when I'm like learning and growing, but you would think at 63 you, you know, I think if you ask me at 23 like a 63, I would be wise, you know, and I'd be a grandma and all these things and.

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That's not the case at all. So all 23 year olds out there just telling you, like all of the growth and all of the learnings and all of those things about life, you get better at them particularly.

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So there's like some I think for women crossover.

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At about 50, where they really.

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Come into their own skin and on.

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That but that continuous.

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Being open to what the universe has planned for you and understanding that.

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And my precious opinion, nothing happens by chance.

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Like all these things, if you stay.

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Open if you keep.

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Putting yourself out there that you and you.

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Keep asking for guidance that you.

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Will get that guidance and interesting little ways so.

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And be open to seeing.

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Them when they show up.

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Right.

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Right.

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Well, now it's something I have to work.

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On, I mean, I'm really working on.

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All of this.

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It's not something that you.

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Know I've been really great out my whole life for anything.

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It's something more than just.

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The learning and the being open and the looking for the signs and just it's I think it's our human nature and I used to laugh and.

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Tell people one of the reasons that I really wouldn't take this osteoporosis diagnosis.

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I just basically was unaccepting of that.

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I'm like, no, you keep that to yourself.

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Like it I was really.

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Upset about that because I didn't learn that.

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Don't speak those words over me.

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But I was like, I'm sorry, but you're wrong.

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And then all anybody would tell me doctors was while you're tall.

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That's your cross to bear.

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And I'm like, well, I have a sister who's taller, thinner, whiter.

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Like she doesn't have.

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Osteoporosis and what are we talking about here?

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Root cause you.

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Know it really kind of set me on my.

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Journey to get it to.

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Get to where I am today.

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But it just our.

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Continuous little reminders that.

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Did I pick this path or did?

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This path pick me right like.

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Am I just like following the path and if I am like I have to be real careful because like with the diagnosis, I wanted to have control of that.

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Like, don't tell me I have something I'm I don't have control of.

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How that goes?

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Right.

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And so that need to control?

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I'm like, I'm going to make this work and I'm going to make this thing.

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Happen and I'm going to make this business.

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Like if it's not the right path, you know I love.

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That saying that like.

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The universe, God, whatever you believe in, we'll throw a Pebble at you.

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Like when you're on the wrong track.

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You know and like, if you don't pay attention, if you're not opening, if you don't watch for the signs and throws a rock, and then if you don't get it, she just, like, puts the whole damn boulder down there and.

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Just like hello.

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You're like, oh, oh, maybe this isn't the right.

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Turn, turn, turn there.

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Right. Like exactly so.

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You know that all of that, just every day I get that.

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And it's when I get.

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Or would I get down and when I'm feel like I'm not making the strides that I want to make and I think I should be in control of.

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It really helps me to stop it.

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It makes it annoys me at myself because I get there.

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I get there, you know, the human nature.

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And then it's just.

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Like, well, wait a minute.

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All this negative energy, that's what you're attracting all of this.

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Like I can't make it all this like negative salt self talk.

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Like that is going to be the very thing that keeps me from going.

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I just have to start counting one of all the things that I'm grateful for and.

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Ask for guidance and remind myself and the universe that I'm open to a different path if.

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This isn't the.

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Path that show.

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Me, you know.

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That's one of the things about getting older that has been really.

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Nice for me.

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You get to a point where your kids are all grown and you're.

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You're not really like.

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Stressed about money.

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Right.

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But you can enjoy life and you can.

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Want to just give back?

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And and help people for the benefit of.

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You know you get personal.

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Growth out of.

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It but you also.

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Get to watch other people growing too, and I think that's so interesting.

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I I agree, and I I I love that about having grown children too, like watching all of that and grandchildren watching that growth.

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And they're seeing what I learned from them is phenomenal, right?

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I learned as I learned more, probably from my adult daughters now than they learn from me in the.

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So there's that, which I'm also very grateful for.

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I can actually stay in this century with.

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A little bit.

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Of help but I.

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I think also like for me like I initially out of college the first time I went to college, I went to school like every 10 years my entire life.

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I think like, oh, whatever reason.

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Probably because I must have made some statement at some point about never going to school pass, blah blah blah, right?

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Pretty sure that's what that how that happened, but I just you know trying.

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To go through.

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And figure things out, you know, and and take them as you come and take.

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Like what the?

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What learning has to offer or what path you're in?

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So I started out the first time in sales and in business, which I loved, I was a competitive person.

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I was an athlete, so I was like, this is awesome.

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Like you gonna win the deal or heaven forbid, I lose at anything because I'm not very good at.

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That so and then we moved to Hawaii.

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And we were in a very small on a very small island, a very small town at the very far end.

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And then we were in the Navy. My husband was in the Navy, and the captain's wife called me.

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Didn't mention she's the captain's wife.

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So they're like.

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The top dog.

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On base and we live next door to.

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I was. Yeah, I know.

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Anybody that gets.

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My dad was Navy.

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Anything about military?

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I was raised in the Navy.

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Right.

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You get that.

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And she asked me to do her a favor.

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We've been there about six months.

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I had not been able to find any work because there was none, especially related to what I had been doing prior.

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And she said, you know, she had to go into, like, a kidney transplant and some serious health ordeal that was going to take 6.

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Months. Would I?

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I fill in for her and her job as a teacher assistant at the local elementary school and work with just mornings 8 to 12 with second and third grade students in small groups, blah blah blah.

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And course I never taught, but I was like.

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I also didn't have anything else going on.

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It's like really hard.

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Are you going to say yes, of course.

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And it's the captain's wife, so.

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Of course I'll be happy.

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To do that.

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Unless you're the Admiral's wife. Yes. Is the only appropriate answer.

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So Long story short.

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It was such an awakening for me.

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I changed it, changed the trajectory of my life and my career.

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I went in and here was there were these like.

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It just happened.

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Both groups were all little boys, six or eight in each group.

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And if they really cared if I showed up.

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They really cared about what I had to say and they really made strides because I showed up and worked with them and the teachers were very, you know, grateful.

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And I was like.

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Well, wait, people.

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You could do this for a living like people.

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Actually cared if you showed up and.

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You know, you really got.

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A lot back from that and.

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So when we got back to the mainland.

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I went back to school.

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Became a teacher was a 25 year educator.

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Now health coaching is that same thread for me with really feeling a need to give back to the world and really making the world a better place for people.

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I love the the idea of the ripple effect, like one person at a time like I help this one person.

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They could help one person.

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They could help 10 people that could help 10 people.

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And we all get a little bit healthier.

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Women get a little bit more knowledgeable about how their midlife bodies work.

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I love the idea of being part of that.

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And I went, I like to.

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Work, I think is the best way to describe it.

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I'd like to call it something else because work can have negative connotations, but I it's really important to me that that time.

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Yeah, it's meaningful to me as a purpose, but also to enrich other people's lives. I think that's what we're all here for. Ultimately, we all have been sent.

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Purpose and contribution that we can make to the world, right?

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So how do you help help these women? Do you just do one-on-one coaching? Do you do groups? How? How is your process set up?

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Right.

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I have a.

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Group coaching curriculum that I am ready to do but have not done yet.

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Everything so far has been.

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One-on-one.

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On one-on-one six month programs and a lot of that's because the women that come to me, that's the best fit like we talk about what their goal, their goals are where they are and then that we fit what we do to that and everyone is a bio individual and I don't believe that what you eat that works for you that make brings you optimal health.

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It's the same thing that I'm going to eat.

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We don't have the same body, so this whole idea in this billion dollar diet industry that we have in our country.

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Is flawed because what works for one person is not going to work for the masses, right?

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It's it's all very individual.

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And what works for guys doesn't work for women.

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That's true and.

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Contrary to their popular beliefs.

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What works for you?

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And I think any woman.

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That's fifty or older, or probably in our 40s would tell you what.

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Worked in her.

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20S does not work in her forties, 50s or 60s like it.

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Your body changes.

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Your hormones go through all types of serious transitions in your life.

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Which completely changes how your body functions.

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You know we we have all these hormone receptors in our gut.

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We have all these hormones that are made in our gut, you know.

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Almost made in our ovaries, our thyroids.

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And it's like all of.

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That is, is like in a state of transition.

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Through three major you know phases in our life so.

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And some women have.

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Children and some women don't and.

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Their bodies behave differently.

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Completely different? Absolutely. Absolutely. So what I do is really work with individuals one-on-one to assess where they are, what their goals are and help them make lifestyle changes that are lasting. So they don't ever have to say the word diet.

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Again, just if they slowly build habits into their life that transition their health and their well-being, and we have to understand that in midlife it is different, there is a reason why what we used to do doesn't work anymore. Our body is not the same body. It's not functioning the same way.

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It has a different preference for where it stores fat.

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You know, we.

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Here's one thing that's intriguing to me that some of the newer science shows, we all believe that a some metabolism makes us fat, right?

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I it's the opposite.

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Fat slows our metabolism well.

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What the hell, right?

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We swear a whole life being told.

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Well, if you have a slow metabolism.

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You were probably.

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Born with it.

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You know, that's just the way that is and.

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That is just completely not true.

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So it sings like that.

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What happens in your muscles?

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Right.

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Oh my God.

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In muscles, we have so little information about how important you know your muscles are, what's going to keep you young over everything else.

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Maintaining your muscle mass.

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We did not get that memo.

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Think especially at the right times of our life.

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About 50, a lot of women have lost.

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And when you hit 40, it starts dropping off your muscle mass starts dropping off incredibly quickly and.

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And that's where you burn fat or burn energy that you burned in your.

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Yeah, and were.

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So it's also what's keep what keeps you capable of getting up off the floor.

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It's also what makes you capable of walking across the room, you know.

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It's like, you know, let's get like basic care sometimes for the clients.

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I want to know what your real goal is.

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Like, don't tell me you want to lose weight.

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That's not a sustainable goal.

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That to fit into the culture, to look better in a swimsuit.

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We have proven the science over and over again.

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That is not a good reason.

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That's not something that.

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Is going to get you down the road, right?

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Most people don't realize weight is a function of dysfunction in your body.

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It's the place where toxins are stored.

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Information hormones, yeah.

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It's it's not, it's not.

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The disease in itself, it's the symptom of disease in your body, and if you can figure out what the problem is, then your weight will balance.

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And along it, it's not always the same thing.

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Right along that, sadly is.

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The the standard American diet.

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Has become incredibly convenient.

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Preserved artificially put together and I just want to, like, shake women too, because what you hear and what they feel is I just need more willpower.

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I just need to power through this.

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I need to buck up.

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And that is not going to.

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It's not going to get you here.

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And for most women, they.

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We have this.

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Need to eat more?

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Right, most women need to eat more and eat differently, so we mostly structure.

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My whole program is really founded in a foundational around 4 big pillars, and there are other really important pillars we do a.

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A circle of life and one of our very first meetings and we look at all aspects of life because if because I can tell you right now.

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Think of a time in your life.

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Right where your career was perfect.

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You were super happy in your relationships.

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You felt spiritually connected.

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Your home life was good.

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Where you were.

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Active in a way that brought you joy.

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And it really doesn't matter that much what you eat, right?

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When when all those other things on your life.

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Weight are in high function.

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What you eat matters.

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A lot less, right?

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So we we do though just for the basics.

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To start off with.

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And and what is?

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What are nutrient?

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Dense foods, everybody has this.

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Mentality of what do I have to not eat?

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What do I have to stop?

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What do I have to avoid?

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What do I have to restrict?

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Should I cut out?

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What if we switched that and we thought about?

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OK, I need this many nutrients a day.

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I need to have 6 plus servings of vegetables a day.

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I need a high quality protein.

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At every meal.

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I'm telling you what to get.

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That right, you have to work at.

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It and you have to eat.

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And so it's not like if you're.

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Doing that, you're.

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Going to have the space, the mental space or the plate space for all this stuff that doesn't.

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Love you back.

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Right.

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Right.

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You're that's gonna stop you.

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You're not gonna.

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Not gonna have a place to put it.

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If you eat enough.

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Of all of the stuff you need.

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To eat in a day and.

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You're not hungry.

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And you're not hungry, do you have?

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More energy, right?

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And you feel great.

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Some nutrition is foundational.

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Funny how that works.

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Movement is foundational.

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But you know, we're learning that.

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Intense exercise has its place, especially in short bouts, but the the real deal if you want to live long and be mobile and have joy is to find a a moderate exercise that you love.

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And do it every day and for 30 minutes.

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Just just do that.

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I mean more is better as far as like also add some strength training in what does that the strength training have to be going to the gym to lift weights can be but no it could be body weight, it can be Pilates, it can be you know simple things you do around.

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House that these blue zones that we've learned.

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So much about.

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They're doing stuff all the time throughout the day as part of their life for their whole life, and they don't quit doing it when they get to the 80, they're still, you know, hurting sheep or walking to the market and doing all that like those kinds of things and.

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All in grain.

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So I believe working something and that brings us joy that we can do because.

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Consistency we have found in science also is more important than intensity, right?

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So find something you love.

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So there's a movement piece, a nutrition piece.

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I think most women don't have any idea the stress that they.

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They believe it's a way of life.

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They believe it's what's expected, being busy all the time, working all the time, saying yes to everyone, being part of the school group and the church group and the work group and the Girl group.

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Group group and doing everything they can do.

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For the family.

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And they just, they just accept that as God, I don't know why I'm so tired.

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I'm mentally exhausted.

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I'm feeling burned out.

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They don't even equate that to.

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Like if you ask them.

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Like, do you?

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Are you under a lot of stress?

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I'm like, no, no, not really.

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You're like, well, can you describe, you know, your day for me?

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You're weak for me.

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And you're like, wait, whoa.

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What you know?

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And they're sleeping way fewer than 7 hours a night, and when they do sleep, it's disrupted.

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And the things that they do to help them.

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Sleep are often disruptive, so you know, once we get a hold of like what are.

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Some ways that we can.

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In just a few minutes today, learn tools for managing stress and that can.

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Be something as simple as breathing exercises.

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Could be tapping it could be, you know, meditation ultimate. Awesome. I'm still learning. Yoga is A2 for one.

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You get some movement and strength and flexibility with the mindfulness.

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All are great.

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Ways journaling handwriting is a fabulous way.

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To practice mindfulness and get that you know, your thoughts and your head in a great space.

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So we work on some component of mindfulness or stress reduction everyone can do.

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Better with that.

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And then the 4th right and the 4th 1:00 I've already mentioned is sleep and the.

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I I think we.

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All knew sleep is important and you sleep like a baby and your mom and you know, sleep.

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You gotta make time.

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For like those are kind of always there, but culture is like we went into this phase of I'll sleep when I'm dead.

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Right.

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Like right now I've got to, like, make this world happen and burn it both and get it all done.

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What the science is saying is your brain function is significantly compromised if you are not getting enough sleep and a high quality of sleep and.

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And then enlightened to me as a coach, I asked my clients to log what they're doing for a couple of weeks.

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So I can really.

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Get a feel for what their life is, right?

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And you'll watch a woman sleep six hours or less, and the next day watch the refined carbs.

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It is like.

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You can do it in research, but to look at it on black and white paper where someone.

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Was helping us somebody get ready for college tonight before going to trip or like working late or whatever.

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ey gotta walk the dogs and do:

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All that next day, they don't understand why.

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But donut like runs towards them right?

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It jumps in their.

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Face it's like, come get me.

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Yes, I want this so bad and it's all.

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It's all chemistry, it's physical, it's biological.

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It's got nothing to do with willpower.

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Your body is trying to override your willpower.

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For sugary starchy.

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Foods because you have screwed with your leptin and your adrenalin and your so your satisfaction is out of control.

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Your whether or not your hungry is not in control like this fall shot and it's and it's physical.

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So I find that more.

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Your body just wants that sugar jolt because you haven't given it any sleep.

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For quick energy.

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Exactly it's craving it in a way that is sometimes uncontrollable and it really doesn't help that people bring a box of Donuts into the office or bagels and that like that, not only is your body craving it, but then it's everywhere, right?

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It's like sitting around all over your life.

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It's just like you don't even have to go make an effort to go find it.

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It's just sitting there.

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So you're like, OK, great.

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The gas is sitting there.

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I better eat one.

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Right.

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So I just find more and more, like, as far as trying to lose weight around the middle, far as trying to lose weight.

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Get a hold of stress.

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You really are going to struggle with that if you're not on a a strong sleep foundation and there are all kinds of things that we have control of and that's like the good news for.

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My control issues, especially with like the Osseo braces, but I love about this and is that?

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You know, something could still go wrong with my health, right?

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And something probably will still go wrong with my health.

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I can at least.

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Say I'm doing everything in my control.

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Towards optimal health towards feeling my best towards staying mobile.

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You know my daughters, I have 4 grandchildren and they were born between.

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July of:

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So it's like boom, boom.

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Boom, boom, you know.

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Which I love. So I have all these super young grandchildren at sixty grade. There's one that's not even 2 yet and hopefully somebody's not.

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Finished. So like you said.

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I have 8:00 that I had five kids and there's 20 years difference like I have a 40 year old daughter and a 19 year old daughter and three sons in between.

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five of us and there was like:

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But yeah, I'm like, OK, if.

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I'm going to.

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Dance and I'm I have every intention of dancing at the youngest one's wedding.

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I got a I got a long road ahead.

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And I need to be stay as mentally and physically sharp.

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As I can.

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And the human body has the capacity to live to 120.

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I think 100.

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100 sounds pretty good to me anyway, right?

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Kevin and I were talking about that this morning while we were walking.

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The kids that are being born right now probably live to see the turn of the century, the next one.

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Is that a little mind blowing right?

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I'll be watching.

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I'll be watching that from somewhere else.

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But yeah, actually, right.

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We're the same age actually.

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Yeah, yeah, I I mean it's it's impressive.

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But so far this foundation of like these four pillars and really working on this one little step at a time like we'll build a a couple of habits.

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Like I'll try to make three suggestions.

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Early we try to work those through for several weeks before we start adding on.

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It's really a fun exercise that we do is at the three month mark.

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I have them sit down the list, all the things they've changed since we've been working together, and it's a it's a pretty amazing list of things and some of them now, they've been doing long enough that they're incorporated into their life.

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Into who they are enough beyond just being an intention or a habit.

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And they're like, wow and I'm.

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Like that's right.

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And then in the next three months, so.

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I started last August, actually last September coaching people, so it's been a little bit less than a year and so far the clients that I've.

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Had a handful have.

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All lost 20 to 30 pounds.

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Lots of inches.

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Sleep better, feel better.

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Don't wake up with aches and pains in the morning.

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The brain fog has cleared that, you know, just the energy is back and they feel great.

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And that is so exciting to me, right?

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That transition because and now they have the tools.

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To keep it going, because almost every woman has come to me so far, we'll come to me and go.

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This program, this program, this program, this program.

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I've been keto, Paleo Weight Watchers, Octavia noon.

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Well, you know, like the list is long, right?

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And a lot of them, they come to me like, as like, a last resort.

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And they feel bad.

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Because of that whole willpower culture like, well, I guess I can't do this alone.

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Right.

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Well, what's wrong with that?

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Right.

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Like there's so many things that we don't do on our own that we need support and guidance with so.

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People have been so programmed to just go to the doctor.

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And the doctor costs a lot of money, no matter where you are, even if you have free healthcare, you're paying for it somehow.

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Instead of going to somebody who's a coach who actually has the tools that can help you get the result that you want Juster.

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Right.

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Then just trying it do it on your own or to spend money in areas that are like.

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It's going to cost you the.

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Same amount of money.

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Later, to be sick, right.

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To be sick, if you're going to go to the doctor or if you're doing all these silly programs, you know watchers is not cheap or what is the other one nutrisystems.

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Chronic disease like this.

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I mean, and you're not even eating real food.

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You're eating chemicals.

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Which is just unsustainable, right?

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Not not sustainable.

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I mean it, it's not only not great for your body and that just brings up another thought that.

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If I can just get women to understand that they need to nourish their bodies, and if you think back to like how you.

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Nourish your children.

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As babies or how you were so.

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Like we didn't.

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We were pretty funny about our small children, but the age, whether or not they got sugar like I wasn't even that immersed in the health world at the time and everything was, you know, homemade, that I could and I would not let them eat.

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Junk food and you know, they had to get into.

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School and have peers for that.

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Kind of stuff to even.

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Get into the world, right?

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Before they discovered it was available.

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Right.

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I my I remember my older sister telling me once when your kids go to school you are so straight when they figure out Oreos and cookies come in packages like that.

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They don't have to be.

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Homemade by you.

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OK, well alright.

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But you know, if we had that same mindset about ourselves, about if we just analyze the food that we were going to eat, whether or not it was going to love us back, whether or not it would nourish our body at the cellular level as we age, you know our mitochondria, our cellular function, all of these things that are starting to be popular.

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In the Wellness community now there's they're getting tired.

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They're not doing their job as well as they used to.

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If we nourish ourselves ourselves at the cellular level, we can revitalize those cells and make them higher functioning and have more energy and feel better.

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Again, it is not inevitable that we feel that as we age, I just, I get so upset about hearing.

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You know, women want to talk about something that's really bothering them or feeling sluggish or aches and pain or go well, you know, I'm aging.

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I'm 60 with it.

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No, that's not.

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That's not how that works.

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We don't have to accept that we have in our control lifestyle factors that will make a significant impact.

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On those aspects of aging that we.

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Don't have to put up with, right?

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So how can people find you?

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Oh, thank you. Yes.

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I'm going to send you, so I'll send you some more information about that, that.

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I already meant to send you.

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I have a website itsjackiegarrison.com Jackie is Jacqui so it's jackiegarrison.com. I am all on Instagram and Facebook also Jackie Garrison health coach.

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And any anywhere that I am as Jackie Garrison and as Jackie Garrison Health coach, I just wanted to keep it as.

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Simple as possible.

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My Instagram name is Jackie underline Garrison, so there's that, but I I thanks to my 30 something year old daughters, I'm on Instagram every day and it's really it's been a lot to learn.

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It's been it was a whole new challenge.

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And I I can remember the first couple of months that I was trying to post and do things they kept saying, mom, you're going to have to do reels, you're going to have to do reels.

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And I'm like.

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OK.

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Like two or three months in, I did my first bill and.

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Everybody was like what?

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So but I I can tell you know, when I hear women my age today or younger just say like, gosh, I don't want to do that part of it.

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I'm not coming up.

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All you can do is just do it.

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And we're all out there and we all make mistakes and we all look silly and we all but you know what, the more authentic you are, the more people are going to be drawn to you.

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So just get out there and be yourself, and the universe will take care of the rest.

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Thank you so much for joining me today.

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My pleasure chatting with you.

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I feel like there's a connection, right and I really appreciate you.

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I love what you're doing.

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You're making an impact one person at the time, and that's what we have.

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That's what we're here for.

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Alright, I'll send you some information.

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