In this episode of Logistics with Purpose®, presented by Vector Global Logistics and Supply Chain Now, hosts Enrique Alvarez and Kristi Porter sit down with Satoshi Konagai, Executive Officer at Elephantech, to explore how the company is reshaping the future of sustainable manufacturing.

Discover how inkjet-printed circuit board (PCB) technology is dramatically cutting carbon emissions, reducing water consumption, and minimizing copper waste — all while maintaining high performance. Satoshi shares his personal journey from global experiences to leading innovation that merges technology, logistics, and environmental purpose.

Tune in to learn how Elephantech is proving that sustainability and manufacturing excellence can go hand-in-hand — and what their bold vision means for the future of green tech worldwide.

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And now, here's today's episode of Logistics with Purpose.

Good morning and welcome again to another exciting episode of Logistics with Purpose.

I'm your host Enrique Alvarez and I have of course my co host Kristi Porter with me.

Christy, how are you doing?

I am good.

We have had a fun little pre chat show.

This is, I feel like a different guest that we've had on before.

So I'm excited to talk about new topics and very cutting edge things.

So I feel like it's early morning here in the US in the evening for him but it's going to be a great discussion and I'm thrilled to have him on.

I agree with you.

I mean we have a very technologically advanced individual to actually enlighten us with some of the amazing technology that their company is producing.

And I think without further ado, let me introduce you to Satoshi Konagai.

Satoshi Konagai is the Executive Officer, Head of Marketing and FBC Sales at ElephantTech.

Hey Satoshi, how are you doing?

Good morning for us.

Evening for you.

Yeah, great.

Thank you so much for wonderful introduction.

I'm so excited to be here.

Yeah.

Yes, we are thrilled to have you and you are definitely going to be an education for us because this is a world at least I can say for myself I know not a little about.

So really excited to dive into it.

But first I want to tell everyone a little bit about your background.

It's incredibly impressive.

So a wealth of global experience and purpose driven innovation.

You have led complex cross border projects in everything from cost accounting to business process re engineering at large scale, systems implementations and turnarounds.

You've managed global operations at scale help midterm shape midterm strategies and drive transformation across cultures and industries.

That is all I feel like top of mind for everybody these days.

So you are definitely ahead of us all.

And now you're part of Elephant Tech which is a Japanese deep tech company tackling climate change through cutting edge manufacturing.

Which is, I know something I could say.

So you're really leading the pack here and what really stands out for us is your passion for building a better world.

And that's why excited to have this Conversation with you.

Leveraging technology, collaboration, the power of purpose.

Satoshi, thank you so much for joining us today.

No, thank you, thank you.

Absolutely.

It's my pleasure to meet all of you.

And then I know like our technology is very like technology oriented and it's difficult to understand.

So this time like I would like to make things more simple and easy to understand and I hope like everyone get absorbed about what we are doing it and then yeah, it is very impressive.

It was impressive.

We actually watched a couple of the videos before jumping in and we're excited about this call.

Of course everyone around the world knows that hey, Japan almost always means amazing technology.

So you are in Tokyo right now.

So we appreciate you joining from Tokyo and thank you for, for being here in our show.

No, thank you so much.

Yeah, and it's grateful like this technology too.

Right?

Beyond the time differences, we can connect each other every single time.

So that's really appreciative.

Yeah, yeah.

Well, before we get into the incredible work you're doing at Elephant Tech and some more of your background, I'm going to warm us up with some quick questions.

So just answer thing that comes to mind.

Sure.

So what is one thing you can't live without?

Since I'm Buddhist, so I'm doing like morning and afternoon for Dokoto prayers.

So that's one of the things which meditate myself and reshape my determination to change the world in a better way.

So that's one good thing.

I cannot stop it.

Yes, very grounding for your day as well.

What is your favorite hobby?

We talked about a few ahead of the call.

So now I want to know which one you're going to pick.

I used to be a swimmer but now I'm doing like walking and running and also weight training to be a healthier body to sustain my health.

That's good.

You gotta raise those two little energetic kiddos for sure.

Yeah, yeah, exactly.

I'm trying to hold my kids in the left arm and the right arm always to pick like from nursery school and come school.

Yeah.

Fantastic.

Coffee or tea?

Oh, I love both.

Since my hometown is very famous for the green tea which has Mount Fuji.

So.

Yeah, okay, good choice.

Favorite place to be.

So I like hot springs.

So wherever like I go that has hot spring is my favorite place to travel and for the city.

I love OC Orange county in California since I spent like 5 years over there and the weather was really great and with like a beautiful beach and then delicious food and then Tex Mex.

I love Tex Mex.

That's awesome.

Well, you and me both, we'll have to find a way to get together sometimes.

Yeah, exactly.

And your favorite book, what have you been reading?

Oh, I love like Romance of Three Kingdoms, which is a Chinese history book.

And also I love comics books, which manga, which is very famous in Japan.

And then my kids start reading Dremel and the Dremel is like the like those small robots who produce, who bring like out of like a inventions that helps me to gain more imagination of technologies and stuff.

So I think comics books is also good choice for cultivating the imagination.

Absolutely.

Yeah.

Well, thank you very much for sharing those answers, Satoshi.

And as you said, all these very creative writers and comic books, I feel like technology's really trying to catch up with sci fi and it's good inspiration for things that are possible that are probably not yet real, but technology can make them real.

So before we dive into the technology and of course the great job that elephant tech is doing, I would like to hear more about your background.

Tell us a little bit more about where you grew up.

How was your childhood?

Like, so I grew up in the city called Shizuoka, which has Mount Fuji.

And then I'm the only child and then my parents have like a disability due to like polio.

So both of my parents had a disability in the left legs.

Without that like kind of like my parents parents disability, I don't have any disadvantage of like when I was at the childhood.

So I'm so glad to be like my parents kids.

And then I was so enthusiastic for the swimming, competitive swimming up to like a junior high.

And after junior high I moved to Tokyo for my high school degree.

So after 15 years old, like I separated from my family.

And then that time like I was leaving the dormitory with like 150 like guys.

And then we live in one small room with four members in one semester.

And then each semester we change a room, those kind of circumstances.

So yeah, it was very interesting experience for me to understand about the different culture.

And even Japan from different region has different culture.

From that experience I learned about the diversity.

And of course after I moved to the United States for gaining my undergrad and grad school degree, I had experience with like a more variety of like culture.

But I think understanding of like a different culture and the circumstances, those kind of like a nature is I think was cultivated by my childhood time, I guess.

Of course that helps a lot, right?

And then understanding the world as a whole, if you have those very diverse relationships and experiences, it helps a lot.

And I'm sure it helped you a lot during your career.

But before we go into the career itself, did you ever climb Mount Fuji?

I mean you mentioned that you were.

From where Mount Fuji is.

Did you ever go up?

Have you climbed it?

Yeah, I climbed it actually when I was at, I think 10 years old.

I climbed Mount Fuji with my friends and also my teachers.

So in elementary school, like we trained ourselves to running background all the time.

That's great.

Yeah, it was great experience actually.

Yeah.

But yeah, I was so surprised when we climbed up to the top.

There are the garbage over there.

So before, yeah, like Mount Fuji was recognized as a UNESCO like heritage.

So the environment itself was so like kind of contaminated.

So that's very astonishing in a sense.

So that time, like I felt like an environmental issue already.

Oh, so you maybe that experience helped you develop who you are now and that's why you're such a good proponent of sustainability and you care about the environment and.

Yeah, I think that, yeah, that's one of the.

Yeah, one of the reasons why I.

Do a better job.

Right.

As humans.

To preserve some amazing nature.

Yeah, exactly.

It's also very unusual compared to at least here in the US to move out of the house at 15 and go off to school.

So you must have also learned a lot of independence and had a lot of experience during those years where you were living in this school.

What I'm curious what that is like, how did that shape you as a person as well?

I think like it's a from my parents education because like my parents is the one who pushed me to be like a good person since I am the owner to gain a good education.

That those kind of people have an obligation to contribute to the others, to make the world in a better way.

They try to push me to be more independent, to gain more culture, not stay in a local town, but to gain more experience.

Those kind of like.

I think parents and I really appreciate their mindset, especially the time my mom overcame two cancer.

So first one was a breast cancer when I was a senior of junior high.

And then at the time, I think it was very difficult decision making for her to let their only son to go to Tokyo.

But she bravely chose that decision.

And then the second time was when I was a senior in high school.

And at that time I was also like chivaling myself whether I should go to like United States or stick in Tokyo or like invest in Shizuoka, those kind of things.

Like I chose.

I was wondering whether which one I should take.

But my mom pushed me to go to the United States to experience more, to have like a better education.

So I really appreciate her mindset.

And then she's always been like best supporter for me.

Yeah, they sound like very special people.

Thank you very much for sharing that story.

And your mom sounds like a very brave woman.

And of course always thinking on your interest first.

That's something that most moms would do, right?

Putting their children first.

Yeah.

Especially being like a father of two sons now.

I understand, like that decision was very tough for her.

Yeah.

But I really appreciate her and of course my father's choice as well.

Well, congratulations to both your parents.

They've done a really, really good job, clearly.

And we'll talk a little bit about your career.

I'm sure they're both incredibly proud of what you have accomplished.

And so moving to the academic side of things, you have a very successful career too.

Satoshi, you earned your degree at soca University of America.

You mentioned it briefly.

And then you went on to Yale and you focused on international development, economics and even explored MBA courses in small and social businesses.

How have this, like you mentioned this a little bit already, but how have these global academic experiences shaped how you think about innovation, sustainability, the role of business in creative positive change?

Could you tell us a bit more about your experience while you were in this institution?

Yeah.

Thank you so much.

I think the spirit of nobody's overreach penetrated not only my undergrad, also grad school.

So when I was academic institution, my undergrad founder is always telling like a student that we need to serve common people since we have an opportunity to gain like a higher education.

Those kind of spirit was always told by our founder.

And then that I think pushed me to study harder.

And also Yale is a one that always teach like a student to serve the people.

Yeah, I think those kind of mindsets shaped me to motivate myself not only like pursue my career, but also to contribute to something good for the public wealth.

And then the reason why I chose like a development economics measure is because I have experience in the half year study abroad in Mexico.

And then at the time like yeah, I studied Spanish actually I forgot almost all.

I had no idea about this.

We could have done this whole interview in Spanish.

And I stayed like a host family.

And then help of the host family was like a single mother and she didn't have any education of it and she couldn't read and also she couldn't count the numbers.

And then since my host family, very great person and they took care of helper and also helper's daughter not only in wages but also for the education opportunity and so on.

So she was very lucky in some sense.

But when I was confronting people who didn't have like opportunity for the education directly, I felt like this shouldn't be happened.

You know, of course like everyone is different and every circumstance is different.

But I think like a basic education or those like a basic like opportunities should be equally provided to the all people.

That's what I felt through the interaction with like a host family and there was also like a help of host family.

And then those kind of things led me to think how we can make and how can fulfill the gap of those differences.

And then yeah, that pushed me to study more for those development economics.

And then when I went to higher education I was wondering whether I should go to the Ph.D. or I should go to private sector.

And at that time I felt I should go to private sector to have more experience to how we can make a workforce and also how we can make a sustainable business scheme to make not only gaining profit but also for the public goods.

Those are the reason why I chose my career.

And then now I'm working on environmental issues.

But my core motivation is to make the world in a better way with my efforts.

So yeah.

Wow, thank you so much.

We definitely need more people like you.

Satoshi, thank you so much for sharing.

And it sounds like you were also.

It was an amazing experience to have such an ecosystem around you.

From your parents to the people you interacted with to professors.

Everybody had a very similar mindset about how education can improve lives and how, you know, we.

I love the fact that you stated that education gives you the obligation to be able to give back to others.

That was a really.

I loved the way you said, said that and it sounds like that was completely reinforced all around you and has certainly put you on a great path which I want to talk about now.

I'm very excited to hear about Elephant Tech.

You're doing incredible cutting edge things there, things that you will have to explain very slowly and simply to me.

But you've been there for almost three years and so tell us about Elephant Tech.

What do you do and what is your role?

Before that I was working as a management consultant.

So I did a lot of like a T project and ERP system, SAP, those stuff.

And then I went China to see like how Chinese manufacturing is growing up and I was so, I don't know, like astonished about how Chinese technology was catching up and even for like surpassing to the Japanese technology.

And then because of that my experience in China for like two years, I believe I should go to startup which create a new technology from Japan.

And that's the reason why I chose Elefantic.

And Elephantic is a company.

We are a 10 years old startup company initially starting from a Tokyo University technology, but now we have own patent.

And what we are doing is we are doing sustainable manufacturing technology using inkjet printing, metal inkjet printing.

We chose the first field using our technology is like a printed circuit board which is like a so called PCBs.

And then we are using inkjet printing technology using nanometer ink to form the circuit directory.

So that compared to like a conventional methodology which power up all the raw materials, stack the raw materials and then do like a chemical etching and chemical treatment to patterning, our technology is pretty eco friendly since we don't have raw material loss compared to a conventional methodology.

So those are our technologies.

Satoshi, it's an impressive technology, it's a great company.

And it seems like your background, you've slowly unfolded this little pieces of information about you being in US Then you went to Mexico, then China again.

So you really understand kind of what the world's doing in terms of technology and you wanted to use Japanese technology to improve it.

So before we continue with the very interesting information and interview, let's just go back to the printed circuit boards, the PCBs.

And if you don't mind, I will try to put a clip here from your company that shows the equipment that you're using.

But if I understood this correctly, the normal methodology to print circuits is by basically having a lot of copper and then you take out, you scrape out everything else other than the circuit and the circuit remains intact.

And your technology is different because you're adding it, you're printing it like we would print like a piece of paper.

And so the circuit is the only thing that you're.

Exactly.

As opposed to just taking everything out.

Yeah.

You understand?

Give me a second and I'll let you a chance to explain what we are seeing here.

Let me put play on this.

Go ahead, Tell us a little bit more about what we're seeing.

Satoshi.

And what is this machine?

So this is like an inkjet printing machine.

So we put on the substrate, this is a flexible printed socket, so socket machine.

So we put on the polymide substrate on the stage and then we do like inkjet printing using this and then we hold to like other process which is like a drying process.

So we do like a photo sintering using this machine to dry up like unnecessary part and then to make a rigid patterning.

And after this drying process is done then yeah, we have like a seed layer of patterning and then we put into like electroless copper plating line to make grow the socket thick enough enough for mass produced label.

So the combination of like inkjet printing for seed layer printing and plating leads to the mass producing label of quality for the PCBs.

So other similar technology is only doing like a printing technology.

But our interesting part of our technology is a combination of both printing and plating.

So that I read up to more.

Than 50% of carbon emissions from mobile phones come from the the way they're printing their current circuit boards.

Correct.

You eliminate all this by using your technology.

Exactly, exactly.

So video shows is like only flexible printed circuit.

But our technology is also right now developing to the rigid printed circuit which is a green stick one thick like a grass based substrate.

So normally when we imagine about the PCBs it's everyone imagine about semiconductor tip but on the top of the substrate there is some semiconductor tip.

That substrate part is actually it's a PCB and then that's a rigid printed circuit.

So it's more commonly used for the all over the world.

So both like a rigid print circuit and fpc and there's other type of substrate PCB as well.

But that accounts for like a lot of like carbon emission of like a smartphone and also notebook PCs, even for the automotive too.

So in the automotive, although like only like a small percentage of usage of PCBs.

But that accounts a lot of like a mass, I mean the CO2 emissions.

So one of like I think the LCA calculation article I read is like 40% accounts PCBs for like a total emission of like one car.

And now it's the consumption of like a PCBs are growing since like electric vehicle is coming up.

And then also a lot of like informatics is going on.

So they need more PCBs.

Well and with your technology they can actually continue growing.

The automotive industry will definitely continue shifting towards electric.

But then at the same time they don't have to, their emissions don't have to be as, as much as they are now using this new technology.

This is very interesting, very, very technologically advanced.

Christy.

I don't know, we've been looking at this and trying to explain it and.

Also I would like to go ahead just add two more traits so not only CO2, but also like our production methodology has less, less water consumption.

So compared to like a conventional one, we like roughly calculate like a 95% reduction of like water consumption because our process is very like a shortened compared to like a conventional one.

So not so much like washing process going on and then with less chemicals.

So our water consumption reduce a lot.

And then meanwhile, since like we reduce like a low material wastage, so that leads to like copper consumption as well.

Because most, most manufacturers use the carving.

Right.

So they're carving this copper out and that requires a lot of water, I imagine, and a lot of.

Exactly.

And then you have to water because it's all polluted.

Exactly.

As opposed to you.

Exactly.

That you just simply use the copper wherever it's going.

So that the circuit is exactly something.

Well, and for anybody who's listening, I definitely encourage you to either go to their website or go back and even better, go back and watch the full episode on YouTube.

But it's fascinating to see.

Yeah, I think we're so used to seeing manufacturing videos in one way and to.

So to see these components come out and they look like paper, they're reflexible.

They look.

I mean, it's a totally new way of imagining things.

So thank you, Satoshi.

I mean, just incredible work that your team is doing.

I would just have them all.

Thank you so much.

I'm very proud of my engineer team.

Yeah, thank you.

Yes.

And so you've launched this new copper nano filler with ultrafine.

Look at me.

So I'm saying this like I know what it means, so you're going to have to tell me.

A copper nano filter with ultrafine 15 nanometer particles, except for dispersion stability.

So again, you're talking about slashing copper use, which is of course not only bad for the environment, but also then you also get into dealing with vulnerable populations who are often, you know, children or people at risk who are having to do all this copper mining as well.

So there's that benefit too.

You've lowered carbon emissions, water consumption.

So again, you're talking about something that is completely new on the front of what we've been doing for decades now.

So I'd love for you to also tell us about some of the trial and error.

What have you learned in this process of trying to forge a whole new path here?

Great, thanks so much.

So now still we are trying to catch up our specification to the conventional one.

Of course, we are catching up many of our specifications, but still there is some limitation of specification.

So A lot of R and D is necessary to be done.

And then we need to also pass all the courtiers examination and stuff.

And then we now like proudly have like experiments with mass production for the flexible printed circuit which means we pass all the quality examination.

But there was like a lot of course like a trial and error was going on to make the quality durable.

But still we need to improve a lot to do like a cost down and also specification improvement as well.

So that's still like a lot of like development is necessary to be done but.

But yeah like we are still on the kind of entrance of like towards our ultimate goal to change our like conventional PCB manufacturing method to our technology.

Well Satoshi, global brands like Apple for example they're definitely under pressure to reduce their CO2 emissions, right?

I mean scope three for them is critical.

The world is watching.

Everyone has actually set up this very aggressive goals for the future and how they are going to to continue reducing their CO2 emissions.

As a head of marketing you must understand this not only at the technological level but then also like understand how to convince the company.

So from, from a marketing standpoint how are you positioning elephant tech solution?

How do you talk to Apple, to this bigger companies, how do you convince them that this is the way to go?

And I know that the data is very straightforward.

I mean you'll save copper, you don't have enough, you don't have waste, you'll save water.

But what are the main points from a marketing standpoint for your company?

I think our technology is very unique since we have like a competitive price level with a lot of environmental impact reduction though like electronic component is most difficult.

I think elements for the manufacturing to change like a new methodology since they need like a core device.

But I think the trait of our cost competitiveness plus environmental impact reduction makes us a very unique I think standpoint of a marketing perspective.

And plus I'm always saying that it look like please bite a bit to make your CSR report most stronger and please be fast pending to be a market market leader for adapting this technology.

And then there's some like companies like Logitech for example courageously take our technology to adapt like their mass production level.

And then I really appreciate their like their like a courageous spirit.

And then also like consider like environment as like most important like human beings issue.

And I cannot tell the name but there is other like device manufacturer or brand manufacturer, a brand maker also taking the same attitude as Logitech does.

I'm feeling that people trying to make an effort to make a world in a better way, especially with current high temperature and everyone knows that we need to take action and then there is a.

Although it's our like what we are doing is like a small step but the accumulation of small step leads out of like a huge leap for the human beings.

And then yeah I very appreciate our partners for taking a lead.

Yeah absolutely.

And well that's a great company to have in your corner and I'm sure yes there are others behind the scenes but I feel like also more people will start taking notice not only because you know there's the moral case for it and then there's the business case for it.

And I feel like you're at a perfect intersection for both both of those arguments.

So thank you.

You're headquartered in Tokyo as you mentioned.

Tokyo is of course right always you imagine both innovation and manufacturing when you think of Tokyo.

So from your perspective how is Japan's role in general evolving as a leader in global green manufacturing, climate tech?

How how do you guys fit into that piece and how do you see the country doing?

I feel like Japanese government has doing great job with decent years.

When I was joining at Electec like a climate issue, it was big there but wasn't so enthusiastic compared to as of now.

And I feel like many of brands are changing their attitude towards more to solve issue issue.

So I could tell when I joined galafantech being as sales planning and so stuff when I communicate with our potential client they are saying like QCD so quality control delivery is the most important thing and the environment is it's like six or seven ranks so it's not important that kind of attitude evolves.

But they changed their mind with recent days and they are saying that the environment is also of course it's a very important issue.

So I'm hoping that as being Japan, Japan is like kind of meat position in China and US and with current like geopolitical situation.

So I'm hoping like a Japanese government and has a good lead towards global warming issue as well.

And then yeah Japan is a good place to cumulate like a lot of like funding technologies like raw materials equipment, machine equipment and then those stuff.

So being Japanese startup is a very I think like has many meanings so we would like to leverage out for the existing like a technology of like cumulative technology in Japan bank and to make a global level of like a scale startup.

So that's what we are aiming for.

Yeah, I love that you're saying that you're 10 years old but you're still in startup mentality, which means you're always learning and growing and looking for new opportunities.

And I think that's a great mindset.

Yeah, we are still like a challenger and trying to catch up like a conventional PCB standards because PCB is like 100 years old, like a history and then they have a lot of cumulative technology.

Of course there is some issue of environment but I really respect conventional methodologies.

Company does.

Because of their effort we can use electric devices with very cheap and sustainable cost and they are making a lot of effort of it.

So we are hoping that.

So we would like the pie bot PCB manufacturer to the PCB equipment manufacturer.

So for us like a conventional PCB manufacturer is not the competitor but it's more like our potential customer.

So we'd like to run more technology of like a PCB than their requirement and we would like to make our technology more advanced to widespread our manufacturing methodology to the world.

So that's what what we are aiming for.

Fantastic.

Wow.

It's a really good mindset.

And of course you have to congratulate all your engineers and you have to congratulate you Satoshi and your company and of course the Japanese government for really investing and protecting and growing companies.

And you're right, I mean it's a technological change that's a shift.

So you're respectful of the past because the way that it was manufactured in the past allow you to be who you are and create and towards the future.

And it's funny and very professional of you that you're also saying that they're not the competition.

You're actually trying to see them as a customer.

And at some point I'm pretty sure they're going to be using elephant tech printed circuit boards to run their printing devices on their traditional way of printing PCBs.

But hopefully it sounds to me that this is a technological shift.

It sounds that it in time people are going to realize that it's just a better way of doing things.

Less costly, more sustainable, less water consumption.

It sounds like a very straightforward proposition.

With that said, that's now, how do you imagine the future will be?

Satoshi, if we were to ask, so 10 years from now, what are some of the future plans for elephant tech?

Where can you take this new technology into the future?

What would be be your vision for the next 10, 20 years?

Yeah, that's great question.

So with our mission we are not want to be like only pcb, but also to adapt our technology into like a wider level and we don't need to Stick with inkjet printing, but also maybe other manufacturing methodology which can produce like a more sustainable way.

We would like to of course pursue it.

So, so we would like to be like, let's say like a sustainable manufacturing methodology, like a proposing company and which is like to be like I think like both equipment and also raw material manufacturer to provide and to propose new way of manufacturing methodology to the world.

So that's what I think we would like to be.

And of course like other competitor or other like manufacturer like task will come up which leads to the human beings like technology development more advanced.

So to the set like I hope we have good like a competitive environment in terms of like reducing the environmental impact with like a quality and cost.

And then I believe like a human like 10 years or 20 years of like the work will be like a better than like right now.

I strongly believe it.

I'm not pessimistic about the future.

I'm very optimistic of the future.

Yeah, well you're certainly leading the future for sure, so leading in the right direction.

So thank you.

I hope, yeah, I hope, I hope I will be the one of it.

But yeah, I try my best to make effort.

Well and it sounds like as soon as you get this challenge tackled, then you're already looking to new horizons as well and we'll figure out bigger and better problems to solve after this and we'll just.

It will continue to be a wave of it.

So thank you for really kind of giving a positive reset to manufacturing practices.

And again I agree with Enrique showing gratitude for where we've been because that has allowed us to have all the technology that we have now, but also knowing that that has put us on track for making it even better.

And so.

So it sounds like we're certainly headed down that path.

Well, thank you again for your time.

This has been wonderful.

It's been fascinating to learn about.

And so before we go, I would just like to ask you what does the ph.

Logistics with purpose mean to you?

I think logistics is very necessary activity for the human beings.

Without logistics, I think all the Japanese people will be die with hunger.

So because like a lot of like transportation, the interaction, these like everything includes like a world of logistics.

Right.

So I think logistics is a very key component of like a human being's activity.

So for that activity with like either mindset of like concealing of the purpose is very, very necessary.

Yeah, thank you.

I appreciate that.

Well, thank you.

Thank you very much, Satoshi.

And once again, congratulations.

As Christy mentioned, you are leading the future and I'M sure.

And I'm hoping that a lot of our listeners are paying close attention to what Elephant Tech is doing.

You guys are really reinventing the way the printing works and that of course impacts a lot of different industries.

So congratulations again.

I personally would like our listeners to go and check your website, which by the way, it's beautifully designed and it's very easy to navigate.

So please, please, if you have a little curiosity about this groundbreaking technology, just visit Elephant Tech's website.

It's a, it's a well managed and coordinated effort.

How can our listeners connect with you?

And yes, LinkedIn could be a good start if anything else.

And then also you can put it on the message at the contact us and then yeah, we can of course connect with not only me but also sales members can connect you.

And also you can take a look about the PCB 007 which is like a PCB magazine now.

And then we are now in the four, three months magazine in a row they highlight our technology.

So please take a look for your reference.

I think that would be also good to understand how our technology works out.

So, so yeah, yeah.

Okay.

Thanks much.

Yeah.

Anybody?

We have lots of manufacturing folks listening in so they're all very accustomed to seeing one way of manufacturing.

So we definitely want people to go check out your website to see what's coming ahead and what's going to be implemented in the future.

Thank you Satoshi again so much for being here.

This is a great conversation.

I feel like I learned a lot and smarter human being because of it.

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