As an experienced podcaster, it's only a matter of time before you're
Speaker:called on to teach what you know.
Speaker:But what will you teach?
Speaker:And is it designed to make the next generation of podcasters better?
Speaker:Hello, and welcome to another Podcast Pontifications with me, Evo Terra.
Speaker:It takes a certain amount of skill to make a podcast, any
Speaker:podcast, really, of any format.
Speaker:And those are skills that require some sort of a learning process to acquire.
Speaker:It's not like podcasting is baked into our DNA, right?
Speaker:It's not genetic.
Speaker:So, obviously, every podcaster needed at one point in time to learn how to podcast.
Speaker:No, not groundbreaking insight thus far, but I promise I'm
Speaker:going somewhere with this.
Speaker:So I've never taught a real podcasting course.
Speaker:I've guest lectured a lot of times about podcasting.
Speaker:Some of those appearances, most of them, what I said about podcasting
Speaker:to the class was pretty much the only thing they learned about podcasting
Speaker:in the entire course that they took.
Speaker:This wasn't a podcast-specific course, obviously, more like
Speaker:a marketing or communications course, something like that.
Speaker:More recently, I've been seeing podcasting taught as a multi-week module, if you
Speaker:will, as part of a larger curriculum.
Speaker:Then there are also the myriad workshops and seminars and other tightly-focused
Speaker:programs I've been asked to participate in over the last seventeen years it's been.
Speaker:Now, I'm fascinated by these formal attempts to educate
Speaker:the new group of podcasters.
Speaker:By that, I mean, the people who take the courses, and it's not
Speaker:any slight against people who sign up to take a podcasting course.
Speaker:I applaud anyone who seeks to learn a new skill however they
Speaker:best need to acquire said skill.
Speaker:Nor am I here to cast any shade at all on anybody who teaches.
Speaker:Listen, I live with a professional curriculum developer.
Speaker:She taught in the public school system for many, many years, and even I
Speaker:have taught at the university level.
Speaker:So I understand the rigor that it takes to teach something.
Speaker:No, what fascinates me about this is the mindset of the students who seek
Speaker:out that education and to a somewhat lesser degree, I suppose, how they
Speaker:choose to acquire that information.
Speaker:Because see, I'm old.
Speaker:So everything I know about podcasting was learned on the job, making it
Speaker:up, quite often, as we went along.
Speaker:A better way to say that is that the accumulation of a wide range of
Speaker:skills from many different careers and disciplines and interests over the decades
Speaker:informed the kind of podcaster I am today.
Speaker:For me, and for those who came up with me in the podcasting space,
Speaker:podcasting is just where we wound up.
Speaker:I wanted to be an astronaut as a kid, not a podcaster, but here I am
Speaker:talking to you instead of prepping for a mission to Mars, but whatever.
Speaker:Now here we are some two decades on and podcasting is actually a career choice
Speaker:for many, hence the proliferation of classes and workshops that finally
Speaker:makes sense today to streamline that educational process for students who
Speaker:want to become professional podcasters.
Speaker:Classes and workshops that people like you and me might wind up teaching.
Speaker:So what kind of educational experience would you provide if you used your
Speaker:skills to teach a podcasting class?
Speaker:I think a painter metaphor will best explain what I'm thinking.
Speaker:So there's a painting that hangs on the wall of this studio.
Speaker:That painting depicts a mother turtle and three of her babies crawling over
Speaker:the sand, headed towards the surf.
Speaker:Nevermind the fact that turtles abandon their egg clutch
Speaker:after they lay their eggs.
Speaker:This is not a biology course, this is about podcasting, please.
Speaker:That painting isn't going to win any awards.
Speaker:No, I can promise you that.
Speaker:But no one ever walks in here and says, "What is that?
Speaker:Oh, right.
Speaker:It's a turtle.
Speaker:I get it now."
Speaker:Come on, it's not that bad.
Speaker:I painted that picture back in 2019, and, in case you're
Speaker:curious, no, I am not a painter.
Speaker:As a matter of fact, that might have been the first time in my entire
Speaker:life that I ever put brush to canvas.
Speaker:No, I'm not a painter.
Speaker:To paint that picture, I took a class to paint that specific picture, that picture.
Speaker:I didn't learn how to be a painter, but how to paint that very scene.
Speaker:So did every other student in the course that I took.
Speaker:We all painted that very same scene with varying degrees of success,
Speaker:with beer involved, quite possibly.
Speaker:If you ask me to paint anything else after seeing that I have clearly painted
Speaker:that picture, I will tell you no.
Speaker:I don't even remember how I painted that picture so I couldn't even
Speaker:recreate that turtle scene if I tried.
Speaker:Now contrast that to the experience of actually becoming a painter.
Speaker:No, not a house painter, but a painter of pictures on canvases.
Speaker:An arts education is vastly different than what I learned when I learned
Speaker:how to paint that one scene, right?
Speaker:A student painter, someone who is truly a student of painting, is going to learn how
Speaker:to work with, I dunno, oils, watercolors, charcoal sketches, and because it's 2022,
Speaker:probably also a variety of digital tools.
Speaker:They, the student of the art of painting, will be given exposure
Speaker:and training in a slew of different techniques and styles and mediums.
Speaker:And over time, what will likely happen is the student will develop their
Speaker:own affinity and likely gravitate towards a particular style of painting.
Speaker:But they've been trained on many, many others.
Speaker:They know how to do more than just that one thing.
Speaker:So if you were training the next generation of podcasters, would you teach
Speaker:them the equivalent of how to paint a single turtle-based scene, how to make
Speaker:one single type of podcast, if you will, or maybe even a single podcast episode?
Speaker:Or would you go deep and wide, teaching them the entirety of podcasting, including
Speaker:all of the various disciplines and skills that go into making content in our space?
Speaker:And is that something you can do?
Speaker:Maybe you, too, would need to go back to school to round
Speaker:out your own education first.
Speaker:There's a lot that we, and I'll include me in this as well, might've
Speaker:missed as we made it up as we went along to make our podcasts.
Speaker:Welcome to the vast and complex world of podcasting.
Speaker:With that, I shall be back tomorrow with yet another Podcast Pontifications.
Speaker:Cheers!
Speaker:Podcast Pontifications is written and narrated by Evo Terra.
Speaker:He's on a mission to make podcasting better.
Speaker:Links to everything mentioned in today's episode are in the notes
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Speaker:A written-to-be-read article based on today's episode is available at
Speaker:podcastpontifications.com where you'll also find a video version and a corrected
Speaker:transcript, both created by Allie Press.
Speaker:Podcast Pontifications is a production of Simpler Media.