Avry Truex, a rising star in the Americana music scene, shares the harrowing moment that launched his musical career.

You'll hear his unique journey from being a dedicated collegiate athlete to becoming a passionate songwriter and performer.

With an eclectic sound influenced by legends like John Prine and Sturgill Simpson, Avry emphasizes the importance of absorbing the good qualities from those around him.

His incredibly candid reflections on creativity, personal growth, and the challenges of navigating the music industry reveal a profound connection to his art.

You'll be intrigued by his thoughts on songwriting, including the impact of life experiences on his music.

Dive into this engaging conversation to discover how Avery's distinctive style and heartfelt lyrics are shaping his path in the world of Americana.

Avry’s debut album "Pine Tree Poetry," is slated for release this fall!

You'll also Discover:

The Powerful Idea a Coach Instilled in Him.

From Sports to Full Throttle Music.

Over 75 Unreleased Songs.

A HOT New England Americana Scene.

Sturgill Simpson Inspiration.

A Story Behind One of His Songs.

Pinetree Poetry.

The Moment that Changed His Life .

Learn more about Avry here: https://www.avrytruexmusic.com/

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I take my coffee house, she takes her wine every pour ain't gotta be nothing good.

I'm a highly impressionable individual, specifically when it comes to people I like in general.

So if I pick up good qualities or things from them, it's gonna stick with me.

And I can't really help it.

Like, I grew up playing lacrosse.

The one thing that my coach always instilled in me was like, when you're watching somebody better than you, take the good parts from them that you want to add towards what you're trying to do from then on out.

Whenever I listen to musicians or songwriters over the years, picking up different sounds that I liked or the way that people told stories.

Americana music transforms the world.

And unfortunately, too many are unaware of its profound impact.

Americana musicians are the unsung heroes.

And here you'll join us in exploring these passionate artists and how they offer inspiration and hope for the future.

This show makes it happen in a fun and entertaining way.

You'll discover new music that you'll love, hard earned lessons from the road, the story behind favorite songs, a big dose of inspiration for you and your friends, and a good laugh along the way.

I'm Ben Fanning and my co host, Zach Schultz.

It's time to get Americana curious.

Hey there, everybody out there.

Are you Americana curious?

Well, yeah, you should be today, because today, y'all, we are welcoming Avery Truex, and he is a gem.

And just wait till you hear his tunes.

He's straight out of the pine covered borderlands between northern Massachusetts and southern New Hampshire.

Avery's a country folk storyteller with a knack for crafting unique lyrics and melodies that will stick with you.

Inspired by legends like John Prine, talents Van Zant, Woody Guthrie and Sergil Simpson, Avery brings the soul of Americana to life in a way that's fresh, heartfelt and totally unforgettable.

And guess what?

His debut album, Pine Tree Poetry, is dropping this fall, and it's packed with songs that are going to take you on a journey of introspection, reflection and everything in between.

With heartfelt lyrics, soulful melodies, and beautiful instrumentation, Avery's music is bound to hit you in an inspiring way.

So buckle up today.

Avery, welcome to americana.

Curious man.

Thank you for having me.

It's real cool being here.

So first thing those of you cannot see, here's the coolest overalls.

Oh, thank you.

What?

Why not, right?

Why are you.

Why are you wearing overalls today?

What's the, what's the story there?

Well, the way I see it is if you have to put on pants and a shirt in the morning.

That's two actions, right?

Put on overalls.

Most of the time, you're saving that extra action that you can be putting.

You could be investing that extra action into something more beneficial for yourself.

So.

So it's about efficiency.

It is about efficiency.

Saving your.

Saving your energy for playing your music and writing songs, not extra movements of clothes.

Now, if you didn't wear a shirt underneath your overalls.

Yeah, yeah.

Well, I would normally do that when I'm down in Tennessee, but I'm up in New England right now, and it's.

It's nice and cool up here.

It's what I'm used to.

So it's like I get to actually wear the clothes I own in Tennessee.

I.

I love the same chunk of coal every single day.

I just look, it's just jeans and a t shirt, and I'm on fire all day here.

It's wonderful up here.

I love it up here.

Weather.

So go there, right, people, y'all are going to love Avery's music.

And the first thing you're going to be, man, this guy's from Texas, or this guy's from Appalachia, or this guy's from Tennessee, but no, you just heard he's from the New England area.

How does a New England guy get this amazing, distinct sound that seems to be influenced from all around?

Well, I don't know, man.

I guess you could say I'm a highly impressionable individual, specifically when it comes to people I like in general, or not even music, but just people in general.

So if I pick up good qualities or things from them, it's going to stick with me, and I can't really help it.

It's the way that I grew up playing lacrosse.

I played a lot of lacrosse growing up, and I was recruited to go to college for it, actually, this whole other kind of person that I was for a very, very long time, and I missed some of those days.

Lacrosse was wonderful, but the one thing that my coach always instilled in me was when you're watching somebody better than you, take the good parts from them that you want to add towards what you're trying to do.

I was a goalie, so it was a very specific style that I had to be looking for.

So I kind of, from then on out, I've just.

Oh, whenever I listen to musicians or specifically songwriters, because I'm not as much of a musician as I enjoy writing tunes, I can.

I can cowboy chords and hammer ons for days.

But you know, that's all I can do.

I can admit where I'm.

Where I'm beat.

And that would be where I'm beat.

So from, for me, it was just like, over the years, just picking up different sounds that I liked or the way that people told stories.

And I get that all the time, because when most of the time when I tell people that, oh, yeah, I spent a lot of time growing up in New Hampshire.

They think I'm from, like, friggin England or something.

They have no idea where New England is.

I'm sorry, where?

New Hampshire.

It's not Europe.

New England.

Yeah.

Yeah.

It's like a weird thing, having to go, okay, so Vermont.

And they're like, what?

And then I'm like, all right, what about Massachusetts?

Yeah, yeah.

It's up in that area.

Ben Jerry's ice cream.

I'm sorry?

Yeah, Ben and Jerry's.

Yeah, that's like one of our New England gems for sure.

And then the other New England gem would be Dunkin donuts.

Well, let me ask this, because your music is so many different styles.

Old time country, americana, little.

Not poppy at all.

But there are some intricates in there.

If you're a listener.

What do you want them to feel when they hear your music, man?

All that I care that they feel is that it's my music.

I don't want to.

I'm not for everybody.

I'm not going to try to pretend I am.

That's totally cool with me.

I'm very pleased with the group of people that I've met that have been touched by my stuff.

That's all I really need.

I'm not trying to be the everybody man.

And I'll leave that for other people.

And you mentioned earlier that you're not much of a musician.

I doubt that.

But a prolific songwriter.

I read on, do my research, that you have over 75 unreleased songs.

So you like, right?

Yeah.

Yeah, man.

Well, it's weird because I'll go through spurts where I'll write six or seven songs and then I'll refine those for two weeks.

Then I'm like, all right.

I think five of these are really good.

And then two of them are just kind of like, they stay in that.

I got.

Gotta continue to work on them.

But, yeah, no, I feel very confidently in.

I can pull up the list right now just to give you the exact amount.

Because nobody's ever going to say I'm a liar.

74.

So I don't know.

Okay.

I don't want to be a liar.

I think that's how many prince still has in their archive, I think.

I'm just kidding.

That's a lot.

Yeah.

Man, why are you holding back on us like that?

Avery?

That is unkind.

Oh, I don't.

I don't know, man.

It's.

Well, strictly speaking, financially, that would be.

That would be what's holding me back.

It's expensive to produce it.

Oh, yeah.

Well, it's just expensive industry, everything you got.

So one thing that most folks don't really see is that with how the structure of the industry is laid out, yes, it is the easiest it has ever been for artists to get noticed and to be picked up and seen and stuff like that.

But what it's also done is it's enabled very, very large artists that don't necessarily need that, but don't actually.

They don't necessarily.

They can just continue to use that system to their benefit as well, which all the power to them.

But when you have a lot of money behind yourself in this instance, then where it's also easier, it just becomes very difficult for the smaller guy to continue to try to do anything.

So everything in the industry these days can cost money, and that's something that I don't think enough folks know.

So.

So what is your strategy as an artist with a.

You're a prolific songwriter.

The songs you've released, I mean, lately especially, are strong.

I mean, they're very hooky.

They really grab you, but you're kind of drifting them out on Spotify versus, hey, here's the album.

Is it because you're kind of, like, testing and you want to see where to put your financial resources?

How are you thinking through it?

So, for me, the way that I'm trying to think of it.

So I actually released something over a year ago that I took down off of Spotify.

It was this little five song ep that I recorded in Nashville.

But I just decided, hey, this isn't the right.

After I'd released it, I didn't.

I think I did about a week of marketing for it, and I had no clue what I was doing at that time, so I just kind of was, all right, this is just out there.

It was too much pressure for me to try to comprehend.

I was, like, just immature and naive and anxious.

So I just threw it up there and it didn't do very well.

And then over the span of, I want to say, sometime back in, like, maybe, maybe April, I just decided, hey, maybe it's best if I take this down for now and put it out at another time.

Or just sit on it for a little while and figure out what I want to do with it, because I really just wanted to be focusing on the songs that I recorded with path.

Okay.

Yeah, that makes sense.

So that's.

You're very prevalent on social media now, though.

I mean, you guys are posting.

What did I say?

I'll say he's prevalent and he's prolific.

Prolific.

Well, I'm saying that it seems like with the times, you got to post something every day to stay relevant.

It's exhausting.

Yeah.

So I've really been trying to take charge of, like, putting something out every day.

But what's your.

What are your guys's dream cars?

You guys ever have a dream car or something like that?

I tell you what, my dream car is the one where I turn the key or push a button and it starts up every single time.

That's a good.

So when you.

When you're driving around to your gigs, what are you driving?

What am I driving?

I'm not driving anything fancy whatsoever.

I'm just driving the same Ford Fusion I've had forever.

It's reliable, it works.

Everybody makes fun of Fords for breaking down, but all my friends with anything else they've ever driven, man, and they're car guys, too.

So I really get to.

I'm not as much of a car guy.

It's like, I can appreciate a good car, but I can't.

I can't tell you how it runs.

But I gotta afford, and it runs out.

And then all their cars.

Yeah, theirs are all breaking down constantly.

And I'm just, oh, man, I had to get an oil change the other day.

God, that was the worst.

We are loving price of a one man bandaid.

What's the background on that?

So price of one man band was.

Well, it's a song about Robert Johnson, who, for folks who don't know, is pretty much the greatest Delta blues player of all time.

And it was a genre of folk music that is instrumental in american music tradition.

So I first learned about Robert probably back when I was a sophomore in college.

I was in an online class, and the teacher played hellhounds on my trail by Robert Johnson.

And I remember being absolutely enthralled with the guys.

The reason I wrote that song is because of that passion for learning more about these instrumental people.

And the story, right, is that he sold his soul to the devil.

Right.

That was the legend.

Yeah, no, he's got a.

He's got a real crazy story.

So he was just.

He was a sharecropper's.

Son for a number of years, and if you know anything about sharecropping, there's no.

There's no money in that.

It's pretty much you work the farm and then they feed you kind of stuff.

But he always loved music.

He loved all that kind of field holler music because that was an instrumental part of keeping people, their spirits up while they were working, because it was awful work they're doing.

They're working in the Delta region all year round so that he'd go out to these places that would be playing blues music.

And he wasn't a very good player for the longest time, but he was obsessed with the genre.

But people hated him because he was bad.

He was terrible.

But he met this gal, and they fell in love.

She was a real Christian, a southern baptist gal, I believe.

And she got pregnant, and she made him quit his music so that he could focus on being an honest man.

And then, unfortunately, his wife and the baby died in the process of giving birth.

And this was right as he got to her at the hospital, or I believe it was at her mother's house, and she was dead.

And the family blamed him immediately for him and his music, the devil's music.

For that.

He started down this path of I'm going to be the best guitarist because that's all I got left, sort of thing.

He sold it here.

He had a conversation with the devil about selling his soul to become the greatest to ever play.

And the rest of it's history, I suppose.

I always knew I needed help, and it came to picking strings.

I could strum them in chords and sing them tunes, and that barely means a thing for the sound of a man playing with no band inside the attitude in a no name town with no money around?

But what's a boy supposed to do?

One night coming home from a show drunk and feeling low?

Parked myself on an old park bench?

With my feet dragged down below?

I hung my head and closed my eyes?

Didn't know which way to go?

I opened em up and there I was?

Alone at the crossroads?

Bringing it back?

So we, as you know, we.

We have home.

We have hosted the Joshua Quimby on.

Our show, man, the mid.

The legend, I believe Zach.

I'm correct.

Our research with Joshua and our conversation with him really led us to Avery initially.

Is that right?

So I love it when we have Americana superpower duos.

Come on.

I mean.

I mean that you're not together, but we're kind of building the group.

What?

So what is your.

What's it been like, doing a great song with him?

Maybe share a little bit?

Like, why this song with Robert Johnson?

Why would Joshua and what are these new England folk music Americana heroes emerging?

Because you guys are young guys.

Yeah.

I mean, it's a pod of americana awesomeness emerging from the pine trees out of there.

So what you say something like that?

I think for.

I know I can at least speak for myself, and I know how Josh felt for a number of years growing up, but it's like, it's very lonely up here when you have musical ambitions.

Granted, my musical ambitions didn't really structure themselves until I was in my later teens.

Maybe, like, turn 20 or so.

I always been writing songs, but I didn't really have any sort of vision.

Vision or path forward with it, but it gets tough.

So one of the coolest thing about that festival that Josh put together for all those New England based country artists was like this.

You got there, and there was 15 artists, and we were all just there to support each other.

And it was such a beautiful thing that I don't think any of us had experience outside of being in Nashville before.

Interesting.

Yeah.

So it's really cool to get to have that up in New England.

What's in the moment when you came together and you were sitting there?

I mean, what.

Like, what's one story of the.

Of all y'all coming together and some kind of magic New England something?

Oh, okay.

Everybody start saying, like, the British are coming.

The British are coming.

That's a Boston thing.

Yeah, no, well, no.

So we got down to pray to Tom Brady and.

Tom Brady.

Okay, there's a Patriots reference.

Yeah, no, so we were.

It was in between two sets.

I can't remember whose set it was and somebody else's, but I was sitting on by the pool tables hanging out with a couple buddies from my band or from this band.

Overserved again, not my band, but real great band.

You guys should totally check them out.

They're mostly based out of Boston.

Overserved.

Overserved?

Yeah, overserved again.

And they don't play tennis.

They're in the.

No, no, no, no.

Overserved.

I'm just kidding reference.

But no, I was just sitting on the.

By the pool tables getting stoned with one of those guys, and this one song, the coyote and the cowboy, came on, which is this real, real old song.

I can't remember who originally wrote it, but it was the culture wall version that started playing, and it's culture walls.

It's this real deep baritone thing.

So, like, me and a couple of baritone guys.

We took the baritone and we all kind of harmonized the song.

It was real beautiful time.

It was a real special moment.

Specifically about.

It's contrasting how a coyote and a cowboy are two completely different sorts.

It sounds silly when you say it like that because they are very different things.

The song is mostly about how a coyote can live in Malibu by the sea or in negative 40 degree weather, but it's always all right.

And the cowboy needs the modern day.

He needs finances to survive.

He needs his rye to get stoned.

And it's just this comparison of man.

The coyote kind of has the better life, even in the worst circumstance.

So you have your song with Josh Quimbye.

Is there a.

Would there be a dream collaboration with another artist that you could think of?

Dude, I've got dream collaborations with everybody.

Most of them are unfortunately passed right now.

I mean, I would love to, man, I can't, like, the list is too long.

We could.

We could spend the rest of the time talking about that.

But I've written a lot of my songs that I write, I have with a specific artist in mind that I would either like to silently give the song to, and it would just mean the world to me, knowing that they have that song or like, that I would love to work with them on.

Why don't you tell us out loud rather than say yes?

In my mind?

Yeah, I guess that's a very good point.

Well, like, the biggest.

My biggest inspiration that I've ever encountered, I've never.

I've not had the pleasure of meeting him in person.

But is Sturgill Simpson?

Oh, sure.

Sturgill, his story, who he is, the music that he makes, his attitude towards the industry, and being honest to himself, that is.

That's everything that music is to me.

I still remember the first, the first Sturgill Simpson that I heard was, it wasn't even, it wasn't off of high top mountain.

It wasn't off of metamodern sounds.

It was his, his heavy metal Sci-Fi record.

He did sound and fury, and it had this accompanying.

And I loved that.

Did you see the Netflix special with it?

Oh, yeah.

Oh, yeah.

I watched that on 420 with some buddies, and I was like, man, coolest thing ever.

And then I was doing some work for my dad, and I was, I like to listen to podcasts a lot.

And I found this one, Joe Rogan with Sturgill Simpson.

I saw it.

I was like, oh, no way.

It's that rocker I was just listening to the other night, and I put him on.

And I just got to listening to him as a person and the way he carried himself and his attitude towards the industry, I was completely inspired specifically by his just ability to does whatever sound he wants to make, and that's very important to me.

I don't ever want to be held down to one sort of sound.

I really picked up on that.

When we go into your catalog out there going along your.

It's a three song live ep, right?

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

And you're.

You're in the minor key, and it's a little.

It's a little dark, man.

Yeah, no, I write.

I love writing dark music.

That was out of that song dying tonight.

Oh, thank you very greatly.

Greatly appreciate that.

That was.

Yeah, that was one that came to me fairly quickly.

I had this gal that kind of.

I wouldn't say tricked me, because I tend to trick myself quite often, and things just didn't end up the way that I wanted to.

But I heard that she was dying her hair one night right after things kind of went south, and I knew I was the reason that she dyed her hair.

So I was like, that's a pretty cool song right there.

So I wrote that.

I haven't played that, man, I can't remember the last time I played that song.

Might have been recording it.

I have not played that in forever.

But then.

Thank you.

That really means a lot that you enjoy that song.

And you got that new one coming out with this new album.

When are you going to release the 14 songs?

The pine tree poetry?

Yeah.

So I'm thinking December 6 right now is, like, the soften date that we have.

But I'm also.

I'm prone to impulsive decisions, and I can very easily see myself in the next three months being, you know what, two week notice.

I'm done.

I just want to record new stuff.

I'm very excited for you, for everybody to hear what I have.

Yeah, you got off.

There is going to be coffee and wine, which you're releasing this week.

And I read a quote that you said you like your country old and your coffee black.

I love that.

I don't remember saying that.

Sounds like I found it online, so.

You said it.

Wonderful.

Abraham Lincoln said it first, I think.

Yeah.

So break it down.

Bring us some coffee and wine, because we're hoping to include maybe a clip of coffee and wine in your episode here, because that is a.

And it's very different than dying tonight.

It's more in this genre of price of a one man band.

Right.

And much more of, like, that fast paced, up tempo, like, country folk, grass kind of stuff, man, that's what's funny, because it's like, I love doing that dark, depressing, kind of, like, murder ballady kind of stuff, and then I love my western kind of stuff and just folk.

But, man, I love.

Love bluegrass music, and I can admit I'm not as versed in it as most of the folks in town.

You go to the legion post 82 on Wednesdays, and you'll meet the most talented people in town that have no interest in being famous.

So, you know, these people are good.

They.

They just live their weeks to get through to Wednesday to be playing that night with everybody, and, man, it's incredible.

It's so intimidating, though.

They are.

And it's not intimidating because they make it intimidating.

It's just intimidating because they are so talented.

Yeah.

It's a wonderful thing to see in the community.

So beautiful there with specifically the bluegrass community.

All the communities really are.

But, yeah, man, I love bluegrass music.

It's one of those genres that just snuck up on me out of nowhere.

I'd always love folk instrumentation, unplugged instrumentation, and then all of a sudden, I was like, what is this?

I think I was probably 18 at the time, and it just blew my mind getting involved with it.

Yeah.

So, what was your.

Your great crossover from collegiate lacrosse to, hey, y'all, I'm being a music.

I'm the music man now.

I'm doing this.

All right, you see, now, this is where I'm at this point.

Wherever I want to tell you guys a cool story.

I don't want to go too far with it.

Excuse me?

We want you to go too far with this.

Everybody listening is begging you.

You're not allowed not to go too far with it.

I'll keep a couple details out, but.

No, no, just.

Just, y'all can't see every.

Avery is a good looking guy.

Yeah.

So I don't know where the story is related to that, but I just.

Have a feeling that doesn't have as much in it, I guess.

But thank you.

I appreciate that, man.

So, I.

One time, right between.

It was the summer between going to or was the summer between high school and college and high school, I was just kind of like a lacrosse guy.

I cared about school, but not too much.

I had a real bad drinking problem.

I was a stoner.

I just did not care about anything I was doing.

And then I found myself.

I love marijuana, and I found myself smoking this marijuana one time that was laced with DMT.

I don't know if you know what that is, but it's one of the most potent psychedelics that you can ever experience, kind of thing.

And it completely reshaped my frame of how I wanted my actual reality to be.

Yeah.

So in this experience, I could.

Vision quest, sort of.

You saw your future.

I didn't.

So I lived an infinite amount of lives.

I fully experienced birth to death.

An infinite amount of lives, not just of myself, but of things around, like plants, animals.

And I could.

I have little recollections of these things.

And I would always come back to this moment where I was talking with or talking with the creator and whatever the creator is to what you guys.

I don't know if y'all are religious or anything like that, but I'd go through and I'd continue to relive these lives, and then I'd come back to this moment where I'd have all the learned knowledge from meeting or from all these experiences beforehand.

And then I eventually got to one where I vividly remember I was sitting in this field overlooking this bluff, and there are these beautiful purple mountains in the background and this gorgeous, golden, tall grass.

And I'm sitting there on these stumps talking with the creator, and he's asking me questions, and he's showing me emotions as Infinity Stones from Marvel movies.

Okay.

Yeah.

And I'm like, every time I hold them, I can feel the entirety of that emotion.

As to all the other parts, it's so intense.

Yes.

No.

Incredibly intense.

And he's like.

And then at the end, he's like, are you ready to die?

Are you ready to go back into the system again?

I was like, no.

What?

I don't think I am.

I think I want to stick through this one and figure this one out.

And then I got shot back into this reality, and I had a completely different appreciation for the things that I truly cared about that meant something to me, which is.

And what are those today?

Family, friends, music, art.

Just the simple things in nature.

I still had alcohol problems for a little while after that, but for the most part, it shifted my thinking for certain aspects of life, but not all of them yet.

Some of them, I still had to take the time to be a kid, to trip and fall through sort of things.

Love that.

Yeah.

What a story.

You guys exclusive with that, by the way?

Got it.

That's.

Hey, that's americana curious right there.

Wonder straight up.

I think that, you know, I thank you for being so vulnerable that.

That's a very personal story.

Oh, no, I'm glad you shared.

Glad you enjoy it.

And I love the way that you took an experience that could have been scary and even traumatic, and it, you know, you found your way through it in a peaceful way, in a really transformational positive.

Transformationally positive.

Yeah.

Yeah.

And I just want to say this for anybody that's listening right now, do not do it.

Don't do it.

It's just not.

Take this as me saying, this is a good idea.

I had no idea I was doing it.

Would I do it again?

No.

I'm happy that I had the experience because I'm ultimately in this wonderful conversation, it.

Living the life I am right now because of it.

But do not do it.

It's not worth it.

Don't do it.

Don't do it.

But you.

You were fortunate through that.

Absolutely.

That could have been a bad surprise, too.

That absolutely could have been.

But.

But, man, well, it.

So, you know, thinking about this now, did you come out of there, that experience, and you started.

You really started taking your music career, and you started doing gigs and getting in front of people and doing music?

Or was it.

Was it more of a gradual thing?

It was much more gradual, because for me at the time, my life was all sports.

I had a guitar.

I still wrote little things here and there, but it was nothing I would.

I could think of possibly sharing with anybody, but it was more.

All right, I'm going to take this first step of quitting lacrosse.

It just.

What.

I realized that it was something that was the past for me, and I needed to focus towards the future of what life had.

So it was kind of.

It was more of a letting myself be able to let go of something, to start to open up space in my future for something new.

So that's really what it was.

I kind of shed that weight of.

All right, lacrosse.

And I was.

I was thinking of going down.

I don't know, I had a million different ideas with what I was going to do with school, but none of them ever really made sense.

It was just more of a.

So that I could keep playing lacrosse.

So this opened up just, like, so many horizons to, hey, how about I start doing some of the things I want to do because life's only so short.

That's really aligned with the creative process for so many musicians and artists, because it's hard to create when there's not space for that.

And I know it was probably.

I suspect it was probably difficult.

Totally.

Cross.

It sounds like you protected that space and the creative energy poured in, huh?

No, absolutely.

I even remember because I was at school still for lacrosse, I got.

So I was living with all the lacrosse guys.

The only guys that I knew at the school were lacrosse guys.

So it was a little tough breaking out of that for me at first, just because.

Because I was insecure.

I was 18.

The world was mine, yet my world was falling apart.

But.

So I was in this forced triple room.

So it's a room, really, for two people, but there's three people in there, and we were all on top of each other.

At any moment of the day, you could.

If there was another person in the room, you couldn't think kind of small.

So that also made it tough to write and stuff like that.

But fortunately, one of my roommates, he really loved country music and stuff like that.

And he started.

I'd never listened to much George Strait or anything like that.

My time in Texas country music was a little bit before that for what I enjoyed.

with him and friends that he brought back, playing Amarillo by morning and shit like that.

But it was those small moments that I had for the longest time.

And gradually, over the past, since then, five years, it's like that.

Those moments have been able to get a little bigger and bigger each time.

Very nice.

Well, kind of sort of wrapping it up here.

What does it kind of look like in the future here?

Let's say the next five years for Avery.

Next five years, man, I just want to be making music with people I enjoy.

That's truly all I care about.

I hope for the health and happiness of all the people that I care about.

And if I have those two things, that's really all I can ask for.

I don't really need.

I don't need anything else.

And I'm just an old junk coal, man.

Like, I truly don't need much love.

One last one for me, this song, nowhere.

I was.

I got in late last night from the airport.

1230 in the morning, coming back home popped in nowhere.

Or I was streaming nowhere.

What is that sort of a call to action for people or maybe share a little bit behind that story?

Yeah, I mean.

I mean, it is a little bit of a call to action, because I don't believe all people should be as impulsive as I.

As I've been in life.

The first time I went to Nashville, I just moved down in my car, because I was like, that's what everybody does.

But it's like, I don't think everybody should do that.

I don't think that was not the smartest thing I could have done.

I could have taken my time to plan things out a little bit better.

But, no, I think what it is mostly is the way that I feel about the song is it's just, hey, if you are living this sort of life, don't feel bad about it.

Don't let.

There's a lot of folks that don't understand it.

It's a weird kind of life, and I can understand why most people don't understand it.

There's zero security in Ithoodae, but it's a song for those sorts of folk, those more eccentric, nomadic, just like, I'll go with the flow and see what happens.

Kind of guys and gals.

Yeah.

I experienced as it as a.

Now that I'm 49 years young, I experienced as a reminder.

Oh, okay.

About the importance of crafting a life.

Yeah, absolutely.

With intention.

And I being able to separate.

Hey, this is the influence of what the world is telling me to do.

This is what's coming from the inside, and I get to make that decision.

Yeah, no, I've got to go with it.

Truly awesome fan that he is.

Always hitting me up about stuff, always giving me just incredible emotional support.

Great fellow.

I want to say he's in his early fifties, but he's just, like, traveling around in his.

His jeep that he's got one of those.

I can't remember what it's called, built on top of it, but it's all built for camping and stuff like that.

He named the.

The truck nowhere after the song.

Yeah.

That's cool.

And that stuff means the absolute world.

It was just a silly song I wrote in my apartment at one point.

Now this guy's named his truck.

That means so much.

Is it?

That is.

That's.

That's why we love americana.

Yeah.

It's such a fun community.

And that's really, to me, when you say that, that's a recognition that it is a true.

It's truly art.

Oh, well, thank you.

Because it can be interpreted in a lot of different ways, and I think the trick in there, to me is to make it simple, where you can apply it.

Absolutely.

And the principles, which are core, and it's riffing on exactly what you like.

What's the average Avery Truex legacy going to be?

Because you could take this thing in a lot of different ways.

You've had some incredible experiences, but when you write your last song, what's the legacy going to look like?

I got a lot of building of things up first, I think, before I can truly try to think about what I.

What a legacy would be, I don't.

I don't know.

Things like legacy.

That's.

That's too.

I don't know why, but my brain has a really hard time trying to comprehend a thought like that.

I much more.

I'm trying to be much more present with myself these days.

I feel like if I can just be known as the guy who wrote songs and some people like them, that's a pretty cool legacy to me, kind of.

You said present, and I feel like you've been present with us today.

Yes.

This has been the best.

Thank you guys so much for having me.

It's been a great time.

Yeah, y'all.

Thank you.

Check out Avery's music.

It's fun, and there are a lot of levels going there, and I got the feeling there's a lot more coming.

And thank you.

A lot of good stuff coming.

Thanks for coming on, America.

Thanks, Avery.

Thanks so much, guys.

Y'all take it.

Where you supposed to be, young man?

Never made.

No, don't go play?

I'll know where's where you'll go?

If you're on these roads?

Get a job in a piece of land?

And build a castle for where you'll stand?

A fool who's on their future for life?

Folks round here will sell their soul on some desk job?

To take its toll on the pleasures of the life that they lead?

No, I'd rather be hungry?

Roaming round without a care?

So if you're looking for me I'll be nowhere?

I'll be nowhere?

Never needed me no place call me mine?

I'll be nowhere.

Thanks for joining Zach and I for this episode of Americana Curious.

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I'm Ben Fanning, and it's been great sharing these artists and music with you.

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