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Mitch Moore, founder of Strong Wealth, discovered his passion for financial planning while studying finance at Indiana University. After working as a high-net-worth specialist at Charles Schwab, Mitch founded Strong Wealth, along with his business partner Jacob, to help families build generational wealth. His firm now serves 40 clients, specializing in wealth management for Bitcoiners, inspired by Bitcoin’s alignment with the values of freedom and financial independence.

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• Owning Bitcoin should not be considered the ultimate financial goal; it's a means to achieve broader life objectives.
• It's crucial for Bitcoin holders to understand the financial implications of their investments beyond mere ownership.
• Mitch emphasizes that effective financial planning incorporates Bitcoin but also addresses family, generational wealth, and estate planning.
• Proper estate planning for Bitcoin involves ensuring legal possession and access for heirs when the owner passes away.
• The financial industry will see significant changes as Bitcoin adoption increases, impacting various roles including traditional financial advisors.
• Mitch argues that many Bitcoin enthusiasts may overlook essential financial planning aspects in favor of simply accumulating Bitcoin.

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At the end of the day, I think a lot of bitcoiners are really too close to the picture, and they need to zoom out and realize that owning as much bitcoin as possible is not the end goal.

Bitcoin is actually the means to an end.

And the end that we're trying to accomplish is really the life outcomes that we want to achieve for ourselves and our families.

And so if someone is, you know, 40 years old with, you know, married, you know, three young kids, they want to make sure they can go to christian school, and they, you know, want to take a family vacation twice a year and maybe buy a house in the mountains or whatever to make those memories and retire early.

And, you know, they have these financial goals that substantially impact the fulfillment of their life.

That's what we're trying to achieve.

It's not just own as much bitcoin as possible.

Welcome to the Business Bitcoinization show, the show dedicated to helping you enrich your life and grow your business with bitcoin, the hardest money on planet Earth.

I'm your host, Josh Friedman, and our guest today is Mitch Moore of strong wealth.

We're going to be talking about how buying and holding bitcoin is not a sufficient financial plan, as well as some of the things that Mitch thinks bitcoin will first disrupt when it comes to the financial industry.

We're going to get to our interview with Mitch right after this.

Mitch, welcome to the show.

Excited to be here, Josh.

I think we're going to have a great conversation.

Absolutely.

So I like to start off every single interview with a few questions that help us to get to know you a little bit better and give us some insight for our own lives.

So you ready for these?

Yep.

Question number one is this, when and how did you first learn about bitcoin?

Yeah, so it came up at a few different times in my life.

I was in college at the time, and a kid just down from my dorm room was talking about it.

He was talking about how the price was pumping, going crazy, and he was thinking about buying some, you know, with some money he got from his parents or something like that.

And at the time, I was working my way through school, I was studying finance.

So you think I may have, you know, been into it a little bit more than I was, but with my own money, personally, I didn't have any to invest, so I kind of dismissed it.

And, you know, we all probably wish we would have bought bitcoin earlier than we actually did, but, um, you know, there's actually an interesting story, uh, that I love to tell when talking about this is, uh, prvious to starting strong wealth.

You know, my business now, I was working for Charles Schwab, and I was taking a lot of investor support calls.

You know, we were hitting circuit breakers like crazy.

People were waiting hours just to talk to us because they didn't know what was going on.

And there were a lot of trades that people believed they weren't getting filled correctly for.

And so they're calling in about that, whatever.

And so it had been a super long day of work.

I was taking 10 hours of calls at that point in my career, and it was late at night, things were starting to slow back down.

And I got a guy call in, and he was asking me just a couple routine questions.

I can't even remember exactly what they were.

But then he started to talk to me about his personal investment strategy and how buying gold and burying it in his yard and holding some in his house was actually a big part of his wealth accumulation, or maybe protection strategy, we'll say.

And I had gotten a couple of those guys in my time working there.

And so I started just to really brush him off with what he was saying.

Sometimes you can kind of tune people out, let them ramble for a while.

They love talking to the schwab people.

And then he stops and he says, mitch, you seem like a smart guy.

Who knows why?

But he said, you seem like a smart guy.

Did you know that the Federal Reserve is actually not a part of the government at all?

It's actually a private institution.

And at that moment, I just, I realized, I guess, that my education had failed me.

You know, I studied finance.

I was.

I thought I knew more than the guy calling in, for sure.

But he said that to me, and I didn't know that.

And I never.

That has never been said to me before.

So I was like, uh, no, I didn't know that.

And he goes on to tell me a little bit more about it.

And he said, well, there's a book I'd like you to, to read.

And he recommends the creature of Jekyll island.

You've probably heard of it.

And that conversation sat with me.

I didn't necessarily take action on it in any way.

Cause he didn't explain to me the downstream effects of that.

That's just all he said, and kind of left it at that.

And so that was really the first seed planted, I think, of the hidden truths of our financial system that would open people up to bitcoin.

And then from there, bitcoin goes on a bull run.

I'm going to start this business as a financial planner, and I know that I need to understand what bitcoin is to be able to guide our clients well.

And so I start listening to sailor Breedlove safety and on all the podcasts I can find, and it starts to slowly but surely click.

And I wouldn't say it fully set in as to what the problem was and the problem that bitcoin solves until I read the fiat standard and followed through on that guy's advice, reading the creature of Jekyll island.

At that point, the light bulb went on and I was orange peeled from then on.

It's really cool.

I mean, first of all, I'm a Schwab customer, and the customer service has always been excellent.

The people that you're talking to on the other line, they're always great.

So appreciate you for being one of those guys, but it's really cool to think that someone who's talking to you on the other end, talking to customer support on the other end, you know, the customers themselves can actually have a positive influence when it comes to helping people understand what money is and what money isn't.

So as a very interesting anecdote, hopefully it'll be encouraging to other people as they're talking to customers support specialists online in the future.

Yeah, for sure.

Yeah.

The common greeting of that day and that time working there was what the is going on with my account?

You can fill in the blank.

Yeah.

Yeah.

So question number two is, what's an insight or fact about bitcoin that you wish everyone understood?

I wouldn't say it's about bitcoin specifically.

It's actually about our current financial system and just the theft, corruption, and just misaligned incentives that our financial system allows to happen.

Like I said, for my own personal story, it really wasn't until I read the fiat standard and the creature of Jekyll island that things really clicked for me because I didn't understand the root problem and the downstream effects of it.

So that's really what I wish more people understood, because then bitcoin would come so easy to them if they really saw that clearly.

Question number three, what's the bitcoin resource you most recommend to other people?

Yeah, to non bitcoiners, I would say it is.

The fiat standard because of the reasons I've mentioned.

But to bitcoiners, which is a lot of conversations I'm having over the last six months or so, I find myself recommending, thank God for bitcoin, kind of showing them the parallels between bitcoin and the economic kind of passages or verses laid out in the Bible.

It's interesting, for sure.

Question number four.

Beyond bitcoin, what's a resource tool or idea that's been helpful to you or your work recently?

I thought about this for a long time, knowing that this question was coming.

And, you know, I don't want this to seem like a cop out answer, but really, the best idea or resource for me in my entire life has been my faith, my faith in Jesus.

And so, you know, honestly, over the last three to four months, business has been slow.

I've had some personal life challenges come my way, and, uh, it's been a tougher time, I would say.

Uh, but, you know, really being able to lean on that foundation gives me peace.

Just knowing that it's all going to be taken care of in the future is I just have to endure, you know, and learn the.

The lessons that I need to learn along the way.

So that's, uh, I would say my biggest resource, uh, at this point in time in my life.

So, question number five.

We call it our arbitrary but insightful question, and it's this.

As a general life principle, is it better to ask why or why nothing?

Yeah, this one didn't take me long at all.

Why not?

Was an easy answer for me.

And I'll tell you why.

Because when I started this business, there was a lot of fear around taking that leap.

You know, quitting my job, starting my own business.

There's a lot of stress, anxiety, and unknown that come with that.

Come with that.

But whenever I'm considering taking risks or making big decisions, one frame that I like to look at things through is, what is the worst case scenario?

And oftentimes, I find that the worst case scenario really isn't as bad as we think until we just acknowledge what it could be.

And in that specific scenario, for me, I was like, well, if I fail in business, I can just get another job or even go back to Schwab.

You know, they're hiring people all the time, and they would love to have somebody like me.

So my real worst case scenario in starting my business was going back to my current life scenario and circumstances in that, that case.

So, for me, it's why nothing.

Because the fear of the unknown is usually a lot bigger in our minds than it actually will be in real life.

Well, Mitch, we're here today to talk about your business, strong wealth.

You've already talked about it a little bit in those earlier questions.

If you could share with us about what you guys are doing at strong wealth and maybe who in particular you guys are for.

We are really the wealth managers for bitcoiners.

And, you know, we have worked with people who are brand new to bitcoin, all the way to hardcore bitcoiners who own 300 plus bitcoin, and that's 100% of their liquid net worth.

So it's a transition that, honestly, we did just make in the last three to six months of fully focusing on working with bitcoiners.

Previously, we had worked with business owners and we really added a lot of value there.

But we realized that we have this unique advantage with this bitcoin knowledge and believe that that's where the world is going in general.

This is the direction that the financial industry is going.

If bitcoin plays out like we think it can.

And so, and, yeah, so now, you know, we're really blending the worlds of traditional financial planning and all the, you know, amazing things that come with that with, you know, deep bitcoin expertise to really give bitcoiners who have, I believe, been dismissed in this area, you know, up to this point, there's a few others out there that do things similar to what we do.

But in large part, what we hear from prospects is, well, I talked to maybe my current financial advisor and they told me to sell it all and it's 60% of my net worth.

I'm like, why would I ever do that?

Or they tell me I'm wrong, or they're just going to dismiss it in their analysis or whatever it is.

And so bitcoin has really run into this brick wall of, I see bitcoin, I believe in it, and, you know, but for some reason, I can't find somebody to help me incorporate this into other financial planning areas of my life.

So I want to ask more about that in just a second and maybe kind of how bitcoin starts to change or affect financial planning.

But first of all, I think especially since you are a relatively new business owner, just over the last year or so, a lot of business owners might get a lot of value from hearing about kind of your process of figuring out who your target market was and developing marketing content on your website.

Because one thing is, when I went to strongwealth.net, comma, one of the first things that I recognize, and I think I've shared this with you already, is your intro video is super on point, and I'd just be interested to hear what are your thoughts on kind of developing who you're reaching out to and kind of what that marketing strategy looks like as a new business.

Yeah, that's a great question.

That's pretty crazy.

Wow, congrats.

I appreciate it.

But, yeah.

So finding my target market, it's really been kind of like a stumbling block, I would say.

But the main question that I asked myself in the beginning and then even asked myself when we were considering making this full switch to only working with bitcoiners and turning away everyone else was, who are we uniquely positioned to serve?

Like, that is the primary question.

And previous to, you know, this season of life, that or this season of business, I should say.

My answer to that was young business owners.

I'm a young business owner.

You know, I know the financial planning stuff, but I'm also going through the business related stuff in real time with them, so I can relate to everything that they're going through, everything that they need, what, what, you know, I can help with.

And I believe that I'm uniquely positioned to serve those people.

And, you know, being able to connect with them, you know, on a, you know, outside of finance level, really helped in getting those clients.

And I was able to build up a, you know, good foundation for our business that way, you know, and then brought on my business partner about a year ago, and he was a full hardcore bitcoiner at that time.

Time.

And so he's brought me even further down the rabbit hole, if you will.

But, yeah, when we decided to make this transition to our target market is a bitcoiner who's married.

It could be a business owner, could not.

He's got a few kids and he wants to maybe retire early or be generous or he was an early bitcoiner, has high net worth now and wants to pass that on to provide generational wealth.

You know, when we're thinking through that, you know, we are uniquely positioned to serve that person because of the knowledge and experience that we have in this.

And honestly, not many others are doing it.

So that's the primary question that I would ask myself if I was a newer business owner is.

Is that.

And then, you know, it may change over time, and that's okay.

So someone listening right now might be wondering, am I the right fit?

Like I guess.

How would you define bitcoiner?

Like who.

Who's a bitcoiner?

Who's not?

Is it just anyone who's opened having bitcoin as part of their financial plan?

Or are you looking for someone who has a little bit more specific intent with whatever bitcoin holdings they currently have or want to have in the future?

That's a great question, one that we had to think through in defining our ideal client.

And so we defined it as essentially someone with enough bitcoin that if bitcoin were to become obsolete, for whatever reason, go to zero, their financial future would be completely derailed.

So they have enough skin in the game, essentially, to where it's a meaningful portion of their overall assets.

And because of that, we really have to uniquely plan around that large bitcoin allocation.

So it's not somebody who is just open to bitcoin.

If someone comes in and they're open to it, okay, we'll talk and see where they are.

So then maybe we can get to some more of how bitcoin and financial planning go together, if that's the case.

And that clarifying point helps a lot where it's like they actually have enough to wherever.

If bitcoin goes to zero, which I don't think either of us think will happen, but if something were to seriously happen and it just tanks, then their lives would be materially affected.

In that case, what types of stuff do you help that type of bitcoiner with?

So that if bitcoin were to significantly fall, they wouldn't be in that tight spot?

Yeah, absolutely.

If bitcoin were to significantly collapse, we'll say we work with people who have 20% of their investment assets in bitcoin, all the way to 100% of their investment assets in bitcoin.

And we're okay with anywhere that you stand on that continuum, we're not going to convince you that it should be something else.

You know, here are the potential trade offs, the things that could happen, the various scenarios that could play out.

If they do play out, are you okay with that being your reality.

You know, we have to make sure that they fully understand that and understand the decision that they're making.

Because at the end of the day, like, I think a lot of bitcoiners are really too close to the picture, and they need to zoom out and realize that owning as much bitcoin as possible is not the end goal.

Bitcoin is actually the means to an end.

It's not the end in and of itself.

The end that we're trying to accomplish is really the life outcomes that we want to achieve for ourselves and our families.

And so if someone is, you know, 40 years old with, you know, married again, three kids, you know, three young kids, they want to put them through, you know, they want to make sure they can go to christian school, and they, you know, want to take a family vacation twice a year and maybe buy a house in the mountains or whatever to make.

Make those memories and retire early.

And, you know, they have these financial goals that substantially impact the fulfillment of their life.

That's what we're trying to achieve.

It's not just own as much bitcoin as possible.

And so maybe that is 100% allocation for some people, maybe it's not for others, and we think that that's okay.

So really just making them aware of the potential reality that could happen in the future is where we're going to start.

And if bitcoin does happen to go to zero, whatever, again, I don't think it's going to, and you don't either.

And probably no one listening does, but we just have to acknowledge that anything is possible.

Um, you know, a lot of things that have happened over the last four years that even kind of opened our eyes to, you know, bitcoin in and of itself, and why it's necessary.

We wouldn't have thought, you know, what would have happened.

So that foundational understanding is what we're going to start with, with anybody who owns a large amount and make sure that they are prepared for any possible future.

Just mentally, you know, uh, in that.

Way, one of the things that you also talk about is making sure that your family is prepared in the case of something happening to you.

So what would be some of those things?

Maybe just high level things that people should be thinking about when it comes to making sure that if they were to die today, their family would know how to access the bitcoin and continue leading a fulfilled life, at least financially speaking, even when you're gone.

Yeah, absolutely.

I think the estate planning around bitcoin is one of the biggest value ads of our service that a lot of people, I think, are overlooking at this point in time.

It's a big part of traditional financial planning, but bitcoiners, I don't think, fully appreciate it yet, because they like to throw everything out of the window and say, I'll just buy and hold, and that's all I need to do.

So, yeah, there's really two things that you need to be thinking about.

When you want to pass bitcoin on to, you know, whether or not it's your kids, grandkids or maybe just something happens to you and it goes to your wife, you need to think about passing the legal possession of that bitcoin.

You know, so, you know, by law, it is theirs.

And then you also have to be thinking about giving them physical possession of that bitcoin.

You know, obviously, we can't, you know, physically hold our bitcoin in our hands, but making sure that they can access it.

So, you know, when it comes to estate planning, I think something that a lot of bitcoiners don't understand is if you don't have a trust in place of any kind, your bitcoin will actually go through probate.

And what that means is it's going to go to the court, and the court is going to say they're going to make the decision on where the bitcoin goes to, and they're going to announce that to the world.

How much bitcoin you own and who now has it, and anyone who is a true bitcoiner, I don't think they want that to happen.

Um, you know, privacy is usually a big, big focus, uh, of bitcoiners and something that, you know, we, we take very seriously with our service.

And so making sure that we have the right estate planning structure in place to legally, you know, pass that bitcoin on, um, and even avoid estate taxes in some, in some ways, um, is very important.

And then when we look at just making sure that they can access it.

Okay, first we need to understand the best custody setup, you know, that will be secure for you now, but also accessible for the people who need to get it if something happens to you.

And so, you know, there are different levels, I would say, of custody setups.

You know, if somebody has a large amount of bitcoin and they're already kind of earmarking it for generational wealth, well, then we'll probably look at, you know, setting up an irrevocable trust structure, getting it out of their estate to avoid estate taxes.

But then the custody set up with that will probably need to be bringing in a third party institution.

You know, a lot of bitcoiners don't like that.

And that can be facilitated easily for them.

It's really different for everybody, but it's just critical to make sure that you have the right legal structure in place to make sure the assets pass exactly how you want them to in private and avoid tax.

And then we also need to make sure we have the right custody set up in place that is both going to be secure for you now.

Maintain your privacy if that.

If that is, you know, very important, you know, even avoid trusting third parties if we want to, but then informing the next generation or our spouse on what bitcoin is, how, leaving them the instructions to be able to access it and giving them instructions on how to manage it, well, because if they don't understand what it is you've spent your whole life accumulating, working hard to stack sats, and they don't get it, well, it's probably going to get sold right away and they're going to go spend the money or maybe even invest in something else just because they don't understand it.

So at a high level, that's what I would say, what they need to think about when passing this bitcoin on to family.

So we've been talking about bitcoiners, and I think you've sort of said people would have anywhere from 20% to 100% of their net worth savings investments in bitcoin.

But let's turn briefly to just a more normal global population.

How do you see bitcoin changing personal finance and financial planning in the future?

As I'm listening to podcasts, it seems like still bitcoin sort of looked down on, or there's just not a lot of conversations happening about it.

But how do you see things changing as adoption increases?

Oh, yeah.

We could go many different directions with this one.

I'll speak to something that I hear very often is that bitcoin will make financial advisors obsolete.

We won't need to be professional investors on a bitcoin standard, and I would agree that it will make a large chunk of the financial industry obsolete.

But financial planners specifically, I don't think we will ever be completely eliminated by bitcoin, because when you boil financial planning down to what it really is, it's connecting our money to the outcomes that we want to achieve in our life.

Traditional financial advisors that are just taking client money, investing in a few index funds and charging 1%, and that's all they do.

Yeah, they won't survive into the future because when everyone is not forced to be an investor, they can just truly save and build their wealth that way and store it into the future then, yeah, they won't need somebody like that, but someone who is comprehensively looking at taxes, estate planning, insurance, cash flow planning for goals, all of these different things, and helping a family think through all these different scenarios and moving pieces.

I don't think we're ever going to be completely eliminated.

If we are, then it'll be a very long time.

So all that to say, if we go to a bitcoin standard, eventually it will eliminate a large, large part of the financial industry.

But I think myself and the position that we're taking will be a one that will stick around through that, definitely.

So on a bitcoin standard that you've just mentioned, what do you think are the first things to go in the financial industry?

Well, I think, like I said, I think the people who are just focusing on investments and managing assets will be one of the first, you know, industries to go.

Just because of what I mentioned earlier.

Right now, because of our financial system, everyone is forced to be a professional investor on top of their job that they're already expected to be a professional at.

And so that's what makes us, the financial advice industry, so big and bloated, I would say, is because of that, and then we also have derivatives and debt structure of our financial system.

It gets so complex, insane.

And so there's a large part of that even industry that will get cut off, I guess.

But yeah, I would say the people who are only focused on investments, that they will be one of the first to go if we did happen to go to a bitcoin standard tomorrow.

So you've mentioned the creature from Jekyll Island a few times already and talked about the creation of the Federal Reserve and how there are downstream effects from that.

Could you talk a little bit about some of those effects that you've seen?

I'm guessing a lot of people who are still listening to this are bitcoiners and might already have some sort of idea about this.

But I think it'd still be interesting to hear some of your thoughts kind of expanding on that conversation we were having a bit earlier.

Yeah, absolutely.

I mean, one, one thing that is very important to me is my health and so fiat food.

I don't know, I haven't read that book specifically by Seyfedeen, but in the fiat standard, he goes into the food industry specifically.

We could talk about education.

We can go into the others, but food specifically is a big one.

With the inflationary system that we have, companies are always focused on profits and profit margins.

They are looking to cut costs at any turn, even though technology is advancing over time and allowing things to be produced at a cheaper and cheaper cost.

Our cost at the grocery store is going up, up, and they are actually lowering the quality of the ingredients or the food that we're consistently buying at the grocery store because they are trying to keep their costs as low as possible and their profit margins as high as possible, because that's what gets rewarded on Wall street, is making sure that profit is always increasing, earnings per share is always going up.

The misaligned incentive there is forcing our food quality to just go into the dirt, I guess, and it's really poisoning our bodies physically.

And again, our financial system already affects the poor more than anyone else.

Oppresses maybe would be the right word to use.

And so because of their costs of everything are going up, they're getting financially squeezed, and then they're forced to buy this cheap garbage food that is then poisoning their bodies physically.

You know, it's.

It's just kind of this insidious cancer, I guess, that, you know, really starts to cause a lot of problems in many different industries.

But that's specifically what I would say about food because that's important.

One important area to me.

So another thing you've talked about a few different times is your faith.

I'd love for you to talk a little bit about how that's been foundational for you and some of the other things that you prioritize for a good life that is not just focused on finance, not just focus on more money, but kind of that end goal you were talking about where it's like a full, robust quality life.

Yeah, absolutely.

So, yeah, I mean, my faith is the foundation of really everything that I do and everything that we even do within strong wealth.

I mean, Jacob and I are the only two in the business at the this point.

And, you know, that's very important to us.

And so we're always thinking of ways that, you know, we can demonstrate our love for Jesus and how we serve, you know, the people that become clients of ours.

And so one, you know, one idea that I like to reiterate a lot to him within the business and just remind myself of is, you know, we are ultimately working for the Lord.

And so let's approach everything with excellence.

You know, let's show everyone that we are truly giving our best because we're doing it not for them.

We're doing it for, you know, our creator.

And so that permeates, really, every area of, of my life.

So faith is a big one outside of money.

Also, I mentioned my physical health.

You know, I exercise regularly, you know, eat healthy, doing all those things.

You know, every area of my life.

I want it to be fruitful and not just focused on, you know, accumulating much money as possible or, you know, making money, my God, essentially.

I think a lot of bitcoiners tend to do that, and they will make bitcoin their top priority or their I, you know, most important thing in their life that they're focused on constantly.

And at that point, bitcoin has become your God.

And so, yeah, keeping, maintaining that balance of priorities is important.

And I would say, yeah, my faith and my health and my relationships are really the three things that I'm focused on outside of business, outside of money, to make sure I'm living a full and fulfilled life that honors God.

Yeah.

And I would say, you know, that faith aspect permeates the business in a way that we encourage generosity and tithing to our clients.

Most of our clients are christians, but it's not a requirement by any means.

And so we definitely encourage generosity because of those beliefs as well, because of belief that, you know, it will work on our hearts, and God loves a cheerful giver, and we'll bless that.

So, um, that's one way that that's incorporated into to our business that I don't think a lot of other people do.

I appreciate you sharing all that.

Mitch.

Uh, what are some final thoughts you might have for the audience?

We've already talked about a good bit today, but final thoughts you might want to share, as well as where people can go to find out more about you and strong wealth.

Yeah, absolutely.

I think the final thing I'll say is that buying and holding bitcoin is, is not a financial plan.

You know, I know I've said that to you, uh, most, multiple times, and, and, uh, you know, I tweet about that a lot, um, you know, on social media.

But it's important for bitcoiners to zoom out and understand that there are a lot of other areas of their financial lives that can be optimized that actually could help them, you know, grow, preserve, you know, secure their.

Their bitcoin stack if that's ultimately what they want to do or translate the bitcoin wealth that they've been able to build into real life change for, you know, their families, um, their spouses, their grandparents, kids, you have the opportunity to really make a tremendous impact because you are this early to bitcoin.

And so getting everything in place, planning around bitcoin is something that should take very seriously.

We have the opportunity to live through the early days of the greatest asset ever discovered.

So let's take it seriously.

Let's look at all the areas that surrounded that and plan intentionally, you know, in our, in our finances.

So, yeah, that, that's the final thought I'll leave everyone with.

But, you know, they, if they want to check out what we do, they can go to strongwealth.net, you know, learn all about the services that we offer and what we do for people or.

I'm on Twitter and I still call it Twitter.

I'll never stop calling it Twitter, I don't think.

But I'm on Twitter and Instagram at.

Great.

Well, Mitch, thank you so much for your time today.

It's been a pleasure.

Thanks, Josh.

Appreciate it.

Well, friends, it's a wrap.

Thanks so much for listening to this episode of the business bitcoinization show.

If you want to reach out to either me or Mitch, you can find those links down in the show notes and be sure to check out strongwealth.net.

dot, as always, keep building, keep growing, and until next time, keep living and leading.

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