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BONUS Episode : Interview with Alicia Lechuga (from Confident As f*ck)
Episode 15 • 21st May 2023 • Your Sexyfied Life 🇬🇧/🇫🇷 • Dr Fanny Leboulanger
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Enjoy the interview I had the privilege to do on the Confident AF podcast with Alicia Lechuga (you can find her podcast here, she's amazing) where we discuss pleasure, yoni egg, breast massage, completing the stress cycle, this episode has it all ! 

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If you’re new here, hi, I’m Dr Fanny Leboulanger, French Doctor and Sassy Sex Coach, nice to meet you 😏 My mission? Helping people (like you ?) reignite theri alivness by stepping out of life auto-pilot, sexual boredom and self-hate. So that you can reclaim your own Lifegasm. Through 1:1 coaching and magic tools (food for thoughts, sexy education, reclaiming pleasure and inner healing), with a zero bullshit tolerance, we embark together on our journey towards your most Sexyfied Life. 

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Hi everyone, and welcome to another episode of Your Sexified

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Life, in case we haven't met yet.

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I'm Fanny, your self-love and pleasure coach, and in this podcast we

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discuss what makes being alive, sexy.

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We reclaim our pleasure.

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We work on ourselves.

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We stop self-hate, and most of all, we take the commitment to feel alive

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and feel it all because we only have one life and it's time to live it.

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Welcome to your Sexify life.

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Hello, everyone.

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Welcome to another episode.

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If you're new here.

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Thank you for tuning in, and if you're not, thank you for coming back.

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Today, I have in store for you an episode which is a collaboration

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with the amazing Alicia Lechuga.

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She's the host of the "Confident as fuck" podcast, which I had

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the honor to be interviewed on.

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We had a really great time and I'm really excited to share

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with you this conversation.

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The main topic of this interview is basically what is this podcast about

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the pleasure of being alive.

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One request, stay with me because the stress actually made my

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English vanish at the beginning.

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If you want to laugh a little bit, that's really a good one.

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You know, practice makes perfect.

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So since this was one of first interviews, then I was super scared

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and we're going to laugh together.

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Enjoy.

Alicia:

Welcome back to Confident As Fuck.

Alicia:

We are here with a very special guest.

Alicia:

This is gonna be a spicy episode because we are here with Fanny.

Alicia:

And Fanny is a pleasure coach and she also is an orgasm fairy godmother.

Alicia:

Okay.

Alicia:

You heard it right.

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An orgasm fairy godmother.

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She is a doctor practicing medical genealogy on a daily basis and a skilled,

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trained sex, love and relationship coach.

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So I actually met Fanny through another.

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Membership galas membership.

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We were, gala does this thing at the end of her tapping Sunday what would

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you call it, like Sunday meetings.

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And at the end she throws people into like a room, like a group chat room.

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And then you just get to meet different people and talk about

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either the tapping or anything else.

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And I really love that idea because it's how I met Fanny.

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So we were thrown into a room with like three other people.

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We got in there.

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We started talking and I was like, I have to have you on the podcast

Alicia:

because her work seems so interesting and nothing like I've had on before.

Alicia:

So also in your bio you said that you combined the best of both worlds to

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help women reclaim the thriving sex and fulfilling life they deserve.

Alicia:

And that is like one of the most juiciest sentences.

Alicia:

I'm like, yes.

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Thriving sex and fulfilling life.

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I love it.

Alicia:

So welcome everyone, Fanny to the podcast.

Fanny:

Thank you.

Fanny:

Thank you for Introduc for this intro.

Fanny:

Introduction.

Fanny:

Sorry, my English is vanishing because I'm stressed out and I'm really happy.

Fanny:

You like the thriving second sinful feeling life.

Fanny:

I really love that.

Alicia:

Yeah.

Alicia:

It's such a good it's such like a all-encompassing, you know?

Fanny:

Yeah.

Fanny:

And I truly believe that the fastest way to go to the fulfilling life you deserve

Fanny:

is through reclaiming your sexuality.

Fanny:

I don't know about you, but personally I've tried a lot of stuff.

Fanny:

I've tried yoga, I've tried meditating, and there was still something missing

Fanny:

until I met this new job that is mine now and that really fill all the blanks.

Fanny:

I arrived there because first on a very.

Fanny:

Basic and personal level.

Fanny:

I had an issue with my pleasure.

Fanny:

Like I didn't, I wasn't able to have an orgasm except when my partner was

Fanny:

giving it to me and it was like, okay, that's not the, I'm not, I'm sure

Fanny:

it's not supposed to look like that.

Fanny:

And I felt happy because I was able to have an orgasm.

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So many women around me couldn't.

Fanny:

And so if there was a part of me then noticing in my gynecology

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practice daily that my patients had issues, I had no answers to.

Fanny:

Because all the results were normal because the hormones were normal.

Fanny:

Because, because, because it was like, okay, I need to figure something.

Fanny:

I need to dig somewhere.

Fanny:

There's has to be something available.

Fanny:

And so one thing after another, I met this teacher of mine.

Fanny:

Her name is Lila Martin.

Fanny:

She's amazing.

Fanny:

And I became a sex loving relationship coach dedicated to help women,

Fanny:

people, and women reclaim the thriving sex and fulfilling life they

Alicia:

deserve.

Alicia:

Okay, we're gonna address the awkward thing in the room is that I pronounced

Alicia:

it genealogy instead of gynecology.

Alicia:

That's ok.

Alicia:

Which Genie genealogy doesn't make any sense, but Gynecology definitely does.

Alicia:

So we're gonna just pretend that that didn't happen.

Alicia:

So, okay.

Alicia:

So you were a gynecologist and so you said that people were coming in

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asking you like questions in your practice, like women were asking

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questions about their sex life.

Fanny:

So I need to point out that I'm not a gynecologist, I'm a family

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doctor, but I've been trained with the GY, medical gynecologist, gynecologic

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practices, so I can do anything the pap smears, the IUDs, everything.

Fanny:

But I don't have the title of a gynecologist just to put out

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that on, to be crystal clear.

Fanny:

And yes, so I have.

Fanny:

When I see my patients for the like annual check-in, I always ask questions about

Fanny:

their sex life, if they have intercourse, yes or no, if they have pain, yes or no.

Fanny:

And it all started this way.

Fanny:

I had so many people having pain and I couldn't do anything, or I can, I

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could just send them to a sexologist.

Fanny:

But they have six month of delay and I was like, I cannot, there's something

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wrong and no, not everybody should go to see a medical doctor to ha because they

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have a medical problem in their sexuality.

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I was like, I need, I'm sure there is something else to do before that.

Fanny:

So, yes, that's why I started digging and noticing how many of my patients were not

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able to experience pleasure at all, being stuck into the do do, do, do, do mode or

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the perfect good girl or perfect mother, and seeing all of those people stuck into

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autopilot the way, the way I was too.

Fanny:

It was really heartbreaking and at the same time really motivating.

Fanny:

Like, I do this for myself, but I also do this for all those women.

Fanny:

We're gonna change the world.

Alicia:

I love that so much.

Alicia:

So what other things could it be other than like a medical issue if you're

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talking about things that people were experiencing when they would come to you.

Fanny:

I think the first thing and the most important is how the, the

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patients I see, and I saw it in myself, is this feeling of being in on

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autopilot, living your life with train.

Fanny:

You are in a train or either looking at the train that rains forward, that

Fanny:

rates this forward and you're like, I'm not even know what I'm doing.

Fanny:

I don't know what, where I'm going.

Fanny:

I have no idea what's going on.

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I just know this is not, this is not something I can bear anymore.

Fanny:

And a lot of us have tried many things regarding that.

Fanny:

We've tried a lot of self-development, we've tried a lot of things, and we

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end up feeling burned out because nothing works or seems to stick.

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And that's what I love about the work we do as sex code, sex club

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and relationship coaches, is that we can address the whole person.

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So the sexual challenges that this person is experiencing whether it's

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pain or lack of pleasure or anything, but noticing this lack of pleasure can

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actually come and can be seen in your sex life, but just even in your whole life.

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Because if you cannot experience pleasure and we are not really trained to look

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for pleasure and are twisted game society actually reserves more: "Forget

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yourself and don't feel pleasure at all".

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If you don't feel pleasure, whether it's sexual or just sensual pleasure, then

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you cannot numb yourself selectively.

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If you don't feel pleasure, then you will end up feeling less and less.

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And less and less and then knitting up and on autopilot.

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Yeah, I completely agree.

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I think it's all connected.

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I have this saying or I say everything is everything, right?

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So it's like, or we show how we show up one way, it's how we show up in a

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lot, every other way, in my opinion.

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So just like you're saying, like if you're not experiencing, you know,

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love, connection or pleasure in any capacity, then you're not gonna be

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able to turn it on different ways.

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So how does someone know if they, other than just not experiencing

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pleasure, how does someone know that they need your work?

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I think before needing, it's more a question of wanting,

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because I'm a firm believer that actually nobody needs a coach.

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Or you can even go further and say, nobody needs therapy.

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It's because you feel bad or you have a trauma that need to be

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addressed, that you go to therapy.

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And it's because there is something that doesn't feel good in where

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you are and that you wish was different than you go to see a coach.

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So I'm really not a fan of having people needing to meet me.

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I prefer offering "Hey, where are you?

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If you're there, I can help you go there and you figure out ,what the there is".

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I'm really feeling something about: it's more a question of wanting more

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than needing a coach or anything.

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Any kind of support.

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If you feel you don't like your sex life with what it is, if you yearn

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for more because there's no way it can be or look like this, this

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hollowness this 50 shades of gray, but not the good one types of thing.

Fanny:

This is where you can meet my work and we can work together.

Fanny:

So yeah, it's more

Alicia:

like that.

Alicia:

Yeah.

Alicia:

I love that approach because it's so, it takes all the pressure off of

Alicia:

having like this problem, like, we have this problem and where something's

Alicia:

wrong with us and we need to fix it.

Alicia:

Which I think is a huge thing that, I kind of took that into a

Alicia:

program I had as well because I have this whole program about healing

Alicia:

your relationship with food and.

Alicia:

I always felt like clients, especially when I was a personal trainer, clients

Alicia:

would come to me like, "oh, I just need to like, I need to fix this.

Alicia:

I need to like be better.

Alicia:

I need to stop being, you know bad on the weekends or whatever".

Alicia:

Like all those negative terms where I need to fix me.

Alicia:

There's something wrong with me, I need to fix it.

Alicia:

And I hated that feeling because it's like we just are like, we're humans.

Alicia:

There's nothing we need to fix, but improve maybe, but, or enhance, I

Alicia:

think is a better way to say it.

Alicia:

So I love that that is your approach.

Alicia:

Talk to us about your weekly fave.

Alicia:

Let's get that out of the way before we dive into deeper topics.

Fanny:

Can I consider a weekly fave that where I live, so in France, women are

Fanny:

actually getting, getting a day off when they are experiencing a miscarriage.

Alicia:

That's amazing.

Alicia:

Yeah.

Alicia:

That is amazing.

Alicia:

Yeah.

Alicia:

Thinking about having to go back to work the day after a miscarriage is very,

Alicia:

seems like how does that happen, right?

Alicia:

Like, how do we do, how do we get to that point where

Alicia:

we're, that's what we're doing.

Alicia:

And then did you feel, have anything that you felt confident in this week?

Alicia:

So a confidence piece.

Fanny:

Oh yes.

Fanny:

I recorded an episode of my podcast that is called "Do You Have an

Fanny:

SM Dungeon in your head too?"

Alicia:

okay.

Alicia:

Tell us what that's about.

Alicia:

What's an SM dungeon in your head?

Fanny:

I don't know about you, but in my head there are a lot of people.

Fanny:

There is my inner child that is like, "Hey, I do something right now there".

Fanny:

There is my inner teenager drama queen that says, "nobody can understand me.

Fanny:

I feel so alone right now".

Fanny:

I have a cop that says, "this is allowed, this is not allowed.

Fanny:

This is allowed.

Fanny:

This is not allowed".

Fanny:

I have a teacher who says, "this should have been done for yesterday.

Fanny:

Why are you not?"

Fanny:

I have like a fake domina saying, "no, you should do this.

Fanny:

If you're not doing it that way, then it will not work".

Fanny:

I have a therapist nodding her head, "well, you're such a lost cause.

Fanny:

Nobody will wants you.

Fanny:

I cannot do anything for you".

Fanny:

And I notice that all of those people, apart from the child and

Fanny:

the teenager, and I have many more are just like, There are playing a

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symphony of making me feel like shit.

Fanny:

So like a crappy SM dungeon because a real SM dungeon is safe and full of

Fanny:

consent and safe words and everything.

Fanny:

But I was like, those people enjoy making me feel bad.

Fanny:

Hell no.

Fanny:

I have an SM dungeon in my head, so what can I do about it?

Fanny:

So that's what

Alicia:

I recorded.

Alicia:

Oh my God.

Alicia:

I'm gonna have to go listen to that episode.

Alicia:

So I'll link it for you guys down below because it sounds really interesting.

Alicia:

I definitely know what you mean about all those different, all those

Alicia:

different sides of our personality that are like in our head, talking

Alicia:

to us multiple different times a day.

Alicia:

And sometimes they're talking over each other.

Fanny:

The easy fix for the hijack, or the fastest way to just.

Fanny:

Find a little comfort in this, is to make them ridiculous.

Fanny:

Like imagining this teacher that has her hair tied up there is a window

Fanny:

and so she has her hair becoming like a witch from the fairy tale, you

Fanny:

know, like, Carabosse or whatever, or you know, fake domina, imagine her

Fanny:

within a baby pink outfit, instead of the black thing with baby vomit.

Fanny:

Then she will feel less scary.

Fanny:

The more ridiculous, the better.

Fanny:

There is a whole other things we can do with that, but having this hijack

Fanny:

of "I need to make them ridiculous to feel better" is really helpful.

Alicia:

Yeah.

Alicia:

That's kind of like picturing, you know, everybody in the audience and their

Alicia:

underwear when you're making a speech type of thing, like make it, yeah.

Alicia:

Definitely ridiculous.

Alicia:

Yeah.

Alicia:

I love that.

Alicia:

so when people come to you and you start to uncover like these things about their

Alicia:

work, what is, what type of changes do they have not only in their sex life

Alicia:

but in their, day-to-day life as well?

Fanny:

The feeling of feeling alive.

Fanny:

That's the most important feedback I get from my coachees, is the sensations of

Fanny:

living the life they are supposed to live.

Fanny:

And living your life actually requires you to live it all.

Fanny:

So you live the pain, you live in the anger, you live the sadness,

Fanny:

it's actually reclaiming the whole palette of who they are.

Fanny:

That is the most important feedback I'm getting because when you have

Fanny:

that, then you are not numb anymore.

Fanny:

And when you are not numb anymore, then your sex life improves.

Fanny:

There is this part, and there is also the part of helping women getting

Fanny:

their first orgasm or getting more amazing orgasms because there is a

Fanny:

whole orgasm buffet in our bodies.

Fanny:

And even if a magazines say there are seven to eight types of orgasms, I

Fanny:

would argue there are so many more.

Fanny:

You can have an orgasm from your throat.

Fanny:

You can have an orgasm from your brain, you can have an orgasm from your cervix.

Fanny:

And turns out an orgasm can be an, it works for pleasure too, an orgasm can be

Fanny:

an explosion or it could be very intimate and inside liberation of pleasure.

Fanny:

Or it can be a luscious and luxury feeling of release more

Fanny:

than a Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Fanny:

Like every porn movie, bad porn, we can see.

Alicia:

So when you're talking about orgasms, are you talking only sexual

Alicia:

orgasms or you're saying, cuz it sounds like what you're talking about is also

Alicia:

like orgasms of like the mind and like ideas and like fully, like you were

Alicia:

saying, fully experiencing life itself.

Fanny:

I love to say it to, to call this lifegasm.

Fanny:

Actually finding back the pleasure of being alive is a great part, a big

Fanny:

part of what I do, because I've been stuck in autopilot for a long time too.

Fanny:

Just wondering "is that it?

Fanny:

Did I sign up for this and have this?"

Fanny:

I'm also really amazed by how our emotions can be a source of orgasm too.

Fanny:

You can have angergasm.

Fanny:

This is one of the best .You can have sadgasm.

Fanny:

I didn't have that before, but you can have disgustgasm enjoying the fun, the

Fanny:

kind of the kink, existential kink of these emotions helping you have orgasms.

Fanny:

It's definitely this feeling of the pleasure to be alive.

Fanny:

And one of the easiest access to that is reclaim your sexual

Fanny:

pleasure and your sexual

Alicia:

power.

Alicia:

How does someone know if they have, don't have their sexual power?

Alicia:

Maybe it's hidden or maybe it's like less than what they want.

Fanny:

I would see several things here.

Fanny:

First, I would like to acknowledge how personal to each person it is.

Fanny:

It's not because you see yourself in what I will just share that you have

Fanny:

no connection to your sexual power, as I always like to say, you're not

Fanny:

broken, you're perfect just as you are.

Fanny:

The first thing that comes to my mind is how mobile is your body.

Fanny:

If you picture two persons, one that is connected to her sexual power,

Fanny:

to the pleasure of being alive and one that is totally dissociated.

Fanny:

If you picture those two people, personally I see the dissociated

Fanny:

one as stiff and rigid, whereas one who's connected have more

Fanny:

range of movement is more grounded.

Fanny:

So there is this feeling first of how mobile the body is.

Fanny:

And that has like perfect explanations because when you have issues or

Fanny:

challenges in your sexuality, there are tensions that are stored into our bodies.

Fanny:

And those tensions, they are literally maintaining us stiff.

Fanny:

So there's this.

Fanny:

I would say it's easy to see the absence of connection to your

Fanny:

sexuality and sexual power because you don't experience pleasure.

Fanny:

Definitely.

Fanny:

There's this, it may be tricky because if you live your life on autopilot, you

Fanny:

may say "I have an amazing sex life.

Fanny:

Thank you".

Fanny:

And if that's the case, great.

Fanny:

Good for you.

Fanny:

I do wanna point out a lot of us have been there and also have noticed that

Fanny:

this feeling of connection is superficial.

Fanny:

And there's nothing wrong with that if that's what you like at

Fanny:

the moment and what feels good.

Fanny:

Again, there is nothing wrong with you.

Fanny:

I would say you the pleasure.

Fanny:

What else?

Fanny:

The letting yourself down, like abandoning yourself.

Fanny:

And what's tricky there is that so many of us are trained to, you know, surrender

Fanny:

or give it to the universe, which is great and really helpful, but just don't

Fanny:

mix surrender and abandoning yourself.

Fanny:

So this feeling of things being hollow.

Fanny:

No goal just living your day, day in and day out, in shades of gray.

Fanny:

And more importantly, not feeling anything.

Fanny:

Wondering "I have everything.

Fanny:

What is wrong with me?

Fanny:

I have everything.

Fanny:

I'm supposed to be happy.

Fanny:

Why am I not happy?"

Fanny:

I call that the auto pilot, and in my opinion, the autopilot comes from sexual

Alicia:

disconnection.

Alicia:

Wow, that is so powerful.

Alicia:

I feel like when I went to acupuncture probably around three years ago

Alicia:

now, I was having issues with my shoulder when I would work out, and

Alicia:

I've always been into working out.

Alicia:

And, I would describe myself at that time as a very stiff person.

Alicia:

I never got a massage or anything like that before, before that

Alicia:

because, I couldn't release tension in my body at all.

Alicia:

I couldn't have anybody else in control.

Alicia:

And, , when I got acupuncture, he said to me the first time

Alicia:

that issues are in the tissues.

Alicia:

And I love that saying because it's exactly what you were describing,

Alicia:

right, is that our body stores that, and if you've ever heard, read

Alicia:

the book, the Body Keeps Score, it talks about that as well, right?

Alicia:

That we store things in our body.

Alicia:

And I see it now.

Alicia:

I never saw it before in myself.

Alicia:

Even though maybe I did and I didn't wanna recognize it, but now like you're

Alicia:

saying, you can see it really easily in other people, like stiff, anxious,

Alicia:

like very immobile like you said.

Alicia:

I really love that, that scenario that you pointed out.

Alicia:

And I think the other thing I wanna talk about is how you know when you

Alicia:

are like going through this autopilot.

Alicia:

I feel like now I'm not on the autopilot, but it's very easy for me

Alicia:

to want to go back to that autopilot.

Alicia:

But before I was on an autopilot, and I know the exact feeling of

Alicia:

what you're saying is like, I have all these things, right?

Alicia:

I have a man who loves me, I have dogs, we have a beautiful home.

Alicia:

Like, you know, we're living our dream, creating our business.

Alicia:

But why do I still feel empty?

Alicia:

And I remember that when I was at a really low point and I didn't really,

Alicia:

like, I shouldn't have been at a low point because I have all these things,

Alicia:

but I kept, I would say when I would get angry oh my God, I just hate my life.

Alicia:

And I started to realize, like once I started to get more into like work

Alicia:

and stuff like that, this was even before I was like doing any type of

Alicia:

the work I do now, no self-growth yet.

Alicia:

I remember thinking like, "why am I saying that?"

Alicia:

Like, I don't, I don't hate my life, but why do, is does that keep coming to mind?

Alicia:

And that was probably like the first realization I had where

Alicia:

I was like "something is off.

Alicia:

Like something is off here".

Alicia:

And because I, I love the life that I've created, but something feels

Alicia:

off and yeah, it can be very like hard to recognize that in yourself.

Alicia:

So do you have any like tips that you can give someone who thinks like "oh

Alicia:

my God, I can kind of relate to that.

Alicia:

Or maybe I am living on a autopilot, I'm just going through the motions,

Alicia:

like I have a sex life with my husband, or significant other or

Alicia:

partner, but maybe I am on autopilot".

Fanny:

I would love just to add something with what you just shared.

Fanny:

I had the same about I hate my life.

Fanny:

I also had, I hate myself.

Fanny:

Mm.

Fanny:

Really writing.

Fanny:

I hate myself.

Fanny:

Hint, when there is that, there's dissociation and disconnection

Fanny:

from your sexual power.

Fanny:

I'm sure many people in your audience can relate to that.

Fanny:

I think the fastest way to step out of autopilot is

Fanny:

coming back home to your body.

Fanny:

And there are several practices to do so.

Fanny:

You also need to be aware that coming home to your body will require feeling,

Fanny:

will require feeling anger that have been sitting there for a long time,

Fanny:

feeling the sadness of the things you wished you had done and didn't do.

Fanny:

There is a beautiful thing about that is written in that book: the Body keeps

Fanny:

the core about how we need to feel the sensations, and not the story.

Fanny:

So first, knowing that and being aware that you are embarking on a wild ride.

Fanny:

And as many of us may feel sometimes, Gosh, it was simpler when I was

Fanny:

sleeping, when I was on a autopilot.

Fanny:

It was way simpler.

Fanny:

I felt like crap, but it was simpler.

Fanny:

So when you are stuck in this autopilot, first I see you.

Fanny:

Then there are different types of exercises that some are exercises

Fanny:

or practices that can help you.

Fanny:

For example, my two favorites are breast massage and yoni egg

Fanny:

These tools are just amazing because they rebuilt the connection between

Fanny:

your body and your nervous system.

Fanny:

When I say build the reconnection, it's never lost, but like

Fanny:

awaken this reconnection.

Fanny:

We have so much approach available, what we call bottom to top.

Fanny:

So you know, you want to try to add a new habit or change something in your life.

Fanny:

And for most of us, it doesn't stick, like you cannot add rocks to a glass

Fanny:

that is already filled with water.

Fanny:

It doesn't work that way.

Fanny:

Whereas when you go to the body and release the tension, then you

Fanny:

have the space to create something.

Fanny:

These are called the bottom to top approach and there are so many of them.

Fanny:

The easiest, air quotes, is to get to self pleasure.

Fanny:

And also acknowledge that for many of us, self pleasuring isn't

Fanny:

accessible at the beginning.

Fanny:

Because just thinking about our pussies or yonis is making us throw

Fanny:

up .Or we cannot even look at them or we feel they're dirty, or that

Fanny:

we don't deserve self pleasuring.

Fanny:

Like there is this whole media society problem around that too.

Fanny:

So if that's not available, there are tools that you can

Fanny:

use to go a little bit slower.

Fanny:

And my two favorites are breath massage and uni egg, as I

Fanny:

mentioned at the beginning.

Fanny:

Breast massage because you build the connection with your hands

Fanny:

and your breasts, which are an erogenous zone, but are not as

Fanny:

charged as your genitals can be.

Fanny:

And you also may be surprised how much we have store in our breasts too, whether

Fanny:

it's constant criticizing because of their size or, you know, we have too

Fanny:

much or not, not enough, or you have the male gaze that is, always looking

Fanny:

in them and having an opinion on them.

Fanny:

There might be some stuff around maybe getting your first bra or, you know, when

Fanny:

you go to those shops and they're like ugly and okay, so they are just pointing

Fanny:

out and let me grab them and press them so that we don't see them anymore.

Fanny:

There is all of that that is stored.

Fanny:

And using breast massage at first, is a way to notice that you are actually

Fanny:

able to feel that and heal from that.

Fanny:

This is building the safety in your nervous system to the

Fanny:

true base of your healing.

Fanny:

Because you don't wanna throw your nervous system into a survival mode

Fanny:

because you're draining all the emotions at the same time, you're

Fanny:

gonna freeze and it's not gonna work.

Fanny:

You didn't learn to ride a bike before learning how to walk.

Fanny:

So we need to walk first and what I love for us to do by learning how to

Fanny:

walk his press, massage and yoni egg.

Fanny:

Yoni egg is my favorite tool ever, first because some of us are

Fanny:

not really attracted to penises.

Fanny:

I needed to point it that out.

Fanny:

And what I love about Uni Egg is at first it is a tool that helps you come

Fanny:

play with a tool without the penis charge, and it helps with the dearmoring.

Fanny:

So because it's an egg that you insert in your vagina, if that's available,

Fanny:

and if it's not, you just put it in the entrance and release the tensions.

Fanny:

When you release those tensions, when you de armor, then you make

Fanny:

some space inside of yourself.

Fanny:

So when you make some space inside of yourself, then you feel more alive,

Fanny:

you have more space available, more range of movement, and there is this

Fanny:

virtous circle that is getting in place.

Fanny:

The beauty of the yoni egg is how it is a versatile tool because in the

Fanny:

mainstream it's really advertised as "use a yoni egg to do your Keghels".

Fanny:

Whereas there is this whole part about the yi egg that is just about

Fanny:

helping you resensitize your body, helping you release the tensions.

Fanny:

We have so much to do before strengthening our pelvic floor.

Fanny:

So yeah, breast massage and addressing your pelvic health through yoni egg are

Fanny:

the best tools in my opinion to start.

Alicia:

I love the talk about the yoni egg, and I think you are

Alicia:

launching your own yoni egg, right?

Alicia:

A crystal egg, is that right?

Fanny:

Yeah.

Fanny:

I love to use the word yoi egg or crystal egg, although I tend to use jade egg as an

Fanny:

automatic response that's still happening.

Fanny:

But yeah, I am building this one-on-one coaching program to work with the

Fanny:

yoni egg because there is amazing stuff on the internet and there is

Fanny:

a lot of bullshit, a lot of crap.

Fanny:

And what I believe is in self practices with guided audios are amazing.

Fanny:

I have them too, and it's really, really efficient.

Fanny:

I also believe in the value of having one-on-one coaching because the

Fanny:

coach can help you deal with whatever comes up with any emotion that

Fanny:

comes up or adapt the pace to your healing to what you are experiencing.

Fanny:

And I truly believe the beauty of mixing jade egg guided sessions

Fanny:

and coaching sessions to en enhance really the, the start of the healing.

Fanny:

So yeah, I'm really excited for this, this offer.

Alicia:

Yeah.

Alicia:

That is super exciting.

Alicia:

I don't know much about the yoni egg, but then when you had it on

Alicia:

your questionnaire, I was like, oh, I can't wait to talk about this.

Alicia:

And you said something earlier, I wanna go back to, you said something about

Alicia:

the I can't remember exactly what the two words were, but you said we have to

Alicia:

look at the something versus the story, the story that we're telling ourselves.

Alicia:

Can you remind us of that and can you expand on it?

Alicia:

Sure.

Fanny:

It comes with the, with what emotions are.

Fanny:

And emotions are just sensations.

Fanny:

There is a great book that is called How Emotions Are Made.

Fanny:

I don't have the author right now, but she starts her book with something amazing.

Fanny:

She was asked out by a guy and she was like, "eh, maybe"

Fanny:

she went out on that date.

Fanny:

And during that date she had, her heart was pounding, she had things in

Fanny:

her stomach and tinglings, and she was like "okay, maybe I am into that guy".

Fanny:

Then she went home and she was sick with the flu for one week.

Fanny:

So noticing that sensations are just informations that

Fanny:

our brains give meaning to.

Fanny:

So a pounding heart rate can be from anger, but also can be

Fanny:

from fear or a lot of things.

Fanny:

So that being said, when I talk about emotion, after an

Fanny:

emotion, there is a story.

Fanny:

There is this situation going with this person.

Fanny:

And when you think about it, you get into a story mode and you

Fanny:

relive the story and you relive the story and you relive the story.

Fanny:

Whereas what's truly needed to heal is feeling the sensations.

Fanny:

So feeling the heart rate, feeling the need to run, feeling the need

Fanny:

to scream, for example, instead of getting into the story that that's what

Fanny:

happened at the same time, blah, blah, and interestingly it's good to know

Fanny:

that these sensations, when you just stick with them as sensations, they

Fanny:

last only one minute and a half max.

Fanny:

And usually it's like way less than one minute.

Fanny:

So if an emotion stays longer than one minute and a half, it's because

Fanny:

we have put the story with it.

Fanny:

Why am why am I telling you all of this is we know that to heal,

Fanny:

we need to feel the sensations.

Fanny:

So if you have this anger coming up because there was the situation with

Fanny:

that man, for example, a boss that yelled at you some kind of crap or anything,

Fanny:

right now your body needs to feel it.

Fanny:

And you need to do what we re, what we call release the stress cycle.

Fanny:

So at the moment what you would have needed would have been to

Fanny:

run far away from that jerk.

Fanny:

So run on the spot or just move slowly and imagine you're running

Fanny:

twice as fast in your head.

Fanny:

This is release the sensation and releasing the sensations doesn't

Fanny:

mean you have to live the story.

Fanny:

You don't have to go to the situation when that guy was a

Fanny:

jerk and said all of this to you.

Fanny:

Nobody will ever tell you that reliving your trauma will help you feel better.

Fanny:

Never, ever, ever.

Fanny:

So it's really connecting the dots as I am draining.

Fanny:

I'm releasing the sensations by completing the stress cycle, by honoring

Fanny:

my body impulses, my body needs instead of getting into our story again.

Alicia:

Yeah, I really like that because the reason I like I heard that and I

Alicia:

got like a little ping, I put like a little post-it up in my brain because...

Alicia:

The stories I think is the biggest thing that I learned when I took this

Alicia:

course about sabotage and learned about these stories that we tell ourselves

Alicia:

and how we have this core belief and then we have stories that we look

Alicia:

for those certain stories, and we look for certain elements in that story

Alicia:

to support that belief about ourself.

Alicia:

And so I'm really, really fascinated about these stories that we tell ourselves.

Alicia:

And these stories that you're saying now, that we also attach to

Alicia:

emotion and sensations that we feel.

Alicia:

And it's interesting.

Alicia:

So I was, so this is gonna be a little bit of a side note into another

Alicia:

topic, but over the last few, months, my husband and I have been like

Alicia:

experimenting with taking mushrooms.

Alicia:

So we're taking like micro doses.

Alicia:

And when we did it the first time, everything was fine, like had a great

Alicia:

time, high emotions, everything's good.

Alicia:

Second time I guess we took a different type of mushroom I still felt fine.

Alicia:

I did not have, like a anxious feeling or a sad feeling or

Alicia:

any major emotions come up.

Alicia:

But what I did notice, and my friend pointed this out when he was with us,

Alicia:

is both times that we took this certain type of mushroom, I needed to, I kept

Alicia:

feeling like I need to get fresh air.

Alicia:

And it wasn't like a normal feeling of anxiety, because I've had these

Alicia:

before, where I'm like, okay, like I need to exit this situation, like, I'm

Alicia:

feeling uncomfortable or this is too much for me, like, I'm overwhelmed,

Alicia:

my nervous system is overwhelmed.

Alicia:

I need to get out.

Alicia:

But I was still taking that same path.

Alicia:

Like I left the restaurant for a second just to get fresh air.

Alicia:

I was like, Hey, I just feel hot.

Alicia:

Like I'm gonna go outside.

Alicia:

I need some fresh air.

Alicia:

But no emotions were attached to that feeling is what I was feeling.

Alicia:

And same thing.

Alicia:

I was like, we, we were maybe gonna go out somewhere later or somewhere

Alicia:

after this restaurant, and I didn't really want to, I wanted to go home.

Alicia:

I wanted to be in my own house, but not for the same reason that normally I would

Alicia:

want to, right, didn't have that anxiety.

Alicia:

And so my friend was telling me who's more experienced with mushrooms and

Alicia:

with emotions in regards to mushrooms.

Alicia:

He was saying you have this neuro pathway that your brain takes, once you

Alicia:

start to get certain feelings come up.

Alicia:

Like if you're having that feeling of anxiety, your brain recognizes it, and

Alicia:

wants to take that specific path that you always take, which was very true.

Alicia:

And I was telling him like, yeah, but I don't feel anxious.

Alicia:

Like I don't feel like there's nothing to be anxious about.

Alicia:

Which is really weird for me to even say, but I didn't feel the normal anxiousness,

Alicia:

but my body still wanted to take that.

Alicia:

And he was like, yeah, it's because whatever emotion that is coming

Alicia:

for you is associated usually for you with anxiety and your body is

Alicia:

trying to take you on that same path.

Alicia:

So it was just so interesting to me that even though it felt totally different,

Alicia:

my body, like we were talking about the body, feeling these sensations, like

Alicia:

my body still wanted that normal escape route of "I gotta get outta here.

Alicia:

I gotta remove myself from this situation.

Alicia:

I need fresh air.

Alicia:

I need to be only at my house."

Alicia:

You know, it was just so interesting.

Alicia:

So I think there really is something with our body neuro

Alicia:

pathways and also sensations and the stories that we tell ourselves.

Alicia:

So even though I've worked through a lot of those stories, your body

Alicia:

still has that pathway that it can easily wanna go down at all times.

Fanny:

I would love to add something to this.

Fanny:

Go ahead.

Fanny:

How actually, the autopilot mode is also a way of neurons wiring together,

Fanny:

firing together, because when you feel overwhelmed by the anger that you have

Fanny:

been repressing for years, then your body's like, Ooh, freeze not moving.

Fanny:

And when there is another emotion, freeze, not moving, and

Fanny:

then another whoop not moving.

Fanny:

This is the classic entry neurons wiring together, firing together.

Fanny:

When you have associated a lot of things with anxiety, then

Fanny:

every big emotion becomes anxiety

Alicia:

yeah, yeah.

Alicia:

It's so interesting because I, as I was sitting there thinking " what

Alicia:

emotions am I actually feeling?"

Alicia:

had the emotion where usually when I would have big emotional outbursts before.

Alicia:

Before I worked through a lot of stuff, my emotional default, I guess,

Alicia:

would be like anger and crying, right?

Alicia:

So even though in this situation I wasn't angry and I also wasn't

Alicia:

sad, I wasn't, didn't really feel, I don't know what emotion I felt.

Alicia:

I actually would love to take the same mushroom again and try to figure

Alicia:

out what the fuck emotion it was.

Alicia:

But my body wanted to cry.

Alicia:

It was so weird.

Alicia:

I was like, I wonder what emotion this is.

Alicia:

But maybe as I'm thinking about it, I'm like, maybe it's overwhelm.

Alicia:

Maybe it's just lot of emotions coming up.

Alicia:

But my body had that feeling when you get in your chest and you're like,

Alicia:

okay, I wanna like "I wanna cry".

Alicia:

But I wasn't sad.

Alicia:

So it was just interesting like, Maybe like those same default

Alicia:

emotions we're trying to come forward.

Alicia:

So yeah.

Alicia:

I love that you said that autopilot of like staying like,

Alicia:

oh, I'm gonna stay right here.

Alicia:

Like I'm not gonna move, like I'm not gonna chance going anywhere else.

Fanny:

I love to offer a refrain on that, maybe this is not something

Fanny:

to put a label on, as in "I need to understand what emotions I am feeling".

Fanny:

This is just completing the stress cycle.

Fanny:

This is just you releasing the sensations through a cry.

Fanny:

Sometimes when you tap, you cough or you yawn or anything.

Fanny:

And yes, if you have stored sadness forever into your body, even if you

Fanny:

don't feel sad right now, at some point you need to cry and that's okay.

Fanny:

Sometimes it's just wanting to kick, or scream, or cry.

Fanny:

It can be really helpful to put a name on that emotion.

Fanny:

And also noticing that when you put a name on it, then you cut yourself

Fanny:

from the richness of what's available because, that's what I see in the

Fanny:

healing I have with my coachees, the true healing occurs when your

Fanny:

mind doesn't know what's happening.

Fanny:

If you're screaming and laughing and crying at the same time, that's great.

Fanny:

That means your mind is lost.

Fanny:

So when your mind is lost, there's the body who takes charge,

Fanny:

and that's when true healing

Alicia:

happens.

Alicia:

I love that reframe.

Alicia:

I love that reframe.

Alicia:

Yeah.

Alicia:

Because even in the moment I was like" I don't know.

Alicia:

I don't know what this is, and I'm just gonna like, let it happen because

Alicia:

as I'm searching and talking, there's nothing that's coming forward".

Alicia:

And I always say this to my clients, it's like, we always know, like, you

Alicia:

know, it's pretty, usually when an emotion is coming forward, like we

Alicia:

know what the emotion is, we know what is actually like triggering it if we

Alicia:

allow ourselves to remove those blocks.

Alicia:

And so I'm like "I don't know what this is", and I didn't, so I just let

Alicia:

it go, went to sleep and it was fine.

Alicia:

So I love that reframe of it doesn't have to have a label.

Alicia:

Yeah.

Alicia:

Okay.

Alicia:

Talk to us about your, you were talking about your meditations

Alicia:

and practices, so talk to us about that and also your coaching.

Fanny:

So, I love using my voice, and when they started my yoga practice,

Fanny:

I fell in love with meditation and I started guiding, guiding that.

Fanny:

I have some programs of several meditations that you can download

Fanny:

with, for example, bringing more fresh blood and energy to a part of you.

Fanny:

So I have like this library of meditations available.

Fanny:

I also offer the one-on-one coaching.

Fanny:

I have two packages at the moment.

Fanny:

One is from Gray to Yay, actually helping people who are wondering where it went

Fanny:

wrong, to have basically the thriving sex and fulfilling life they deserve.

Fanny:

And I also have the, the one-on-one coaching with Yoni Egg for people who

Fanny:

want to go with this on a deeper topic.

Fanny:

So for now, the one-on-one coaching is available and the library membership

Fanny:

is in a work in progress that will be available on the website.

Alicia:

Awesome.

Alicia:

Awesome.

Alicia:

I'm gonna have both of those linked down below for you guys

Alicia:

so you guys can check that out.

Alicia:

If you guys are interested in this, I think it is something

Alicia:

that everyone should do.

Alicia:

Just like I talk about acupuncture and working through our body.

Alicia:

Definitely something that we should all explore.

Alicia:

I'm also gonna link down below for you guys all the books that we talked

Alicia:

about because there were a few.

Alicia:

So I've made a few notes on the books that we were talking about: Existential

Alicia:

Kink, the body keeps the score.

Alicia:

And then also How emotions are made.

Alicia:

I'll link those for you guys.

Alicia:

Do you have any other book recommendations that I should put down for people?

Alicia:

Oh yeah.

Fanny:

You don't wanna start me on books.

Fanny:

I do have two other one.

Fanny:

Okay.

Fanny:

Come As you are from Emily Nagoski if you wanna start your sexual

Fanny:

healing, start with Come as you are.

Fanny:

It's amazing.

Fanny:

Like this woman should be decorated, like this is the book you wanna offer to any

Fanny:

woman around you that is important to you and that needs to hear that she's normal

Fanny:

and that there is nothing wrong with her.

I also love Pussy:

A reclamation from Mama Jenna.

I also love Pussy:

It's really interesting too.

I also love Pussy:

I also wanna acknowledge how lucky I am to not have English as my first language

I also love Pussy:

because I don't have any problem with using the word pussy, but yeah, so

I also love Pussy:

that's the major two recommendations.

I also love Pussy:

What is your first

Alicia:

language?

Alicia:

French?

Fanny:

I'm, I live in France.

Fanny:

We would call pussy a "chatte" literally means Lady Cat and I have no issue

Fanny:

about saying pussy, but "chatte" is really much more confronting.

Fanny:

So work to do there too.

Alicia:

I love that.

Alicia:

I love that so much.

Alicia:

Yeah.

Alicia:

It's funny how, my husband speaks Spanish, so I have no problem

Alicia:

using curse words in Spanish.

Alicia:

Like I I said something the other day to my mother-in-law not to her,

Alicia:

I'm sorry, let me rephrase that.

Alicia:

Not to her, but I hit my thumb or something like that when we were

Alicia:

working on the Turkey for Thanksgiving or for Christmas, I don't remember.

Alicia:

Anyways.

Alicia:

And I said something and sh I think I said like, fuck your

Alicia:

mother, or something like that.

Alicia:

But I wasn't saying it to her.

Alicia:

I was just saying it, it's a phrase, you know, and she's like, "oh my God".

Alicia:

But because it's not my first language, to me it's nothing, it's

Alicia:

not a really that big of a deal.

Alicia:

It's really funny.

Alicia:

Okay, let's end it out with a little rapid fire, if we shall.

Alicia:

How do you feel about that?

Alicia:

Amazing.

Alicia:

Okay.

Alicia:

Okay.

Alicia:

Let's do it.

Alicia:

Okay.

Alicia:

So I usually start with what is your favorite food?

Alicia:

Hmm.

Fanny:

I love pasta.

Fanny:

Not original.

Fanny:

I love pasta because they're versatile because you can do anything that

Fanny:

would that you want with them.

Fanny:

You can do something really precious and elaborated, and at the same time, if

Fanny:

you need comfort food, they're here too.

Alicia:

I love pistachios.

Alicia:

Ooh, me too.

Alicia:

Pistachio ice cream's my favorite ice cream.

Alicia:

Yes.

Alicia:

Okay.

Alicia:

What is your drink of choice?

Alicia:

Do you drink alcohol?

Fanny:

No, I can't.

Fanny:

I have a medical condition that prevents me to do so.

Fanny:

Okay.

Fanny:

But I do enjoy having like raspberry juice in a glass of champagne because

Fanny:

it makes me feel really classy.

Fanny:

And special because you're just drinking champagne and

Fanny:

I'm drinking something special.

Alicia:

Yes.

Alicia:

We always love to be extra.

Alicia:

I love that.

Alicia:

Okay, if you're going to the movies or you're watching a movie at home, what

Alicia:

is the candy that you're grabbing?

Fanny:

Popcorn.

Fanny:

But sugar one.

Alicia:

Mm-hmm.

Alicia:

Like a sweet popcorn.

Alicia:

Definitely.

Alicia:

Yes.

Alicia:

Yes.

Alicia:

That is so good.

Alicia:

I love like a good kettle corn or like chocolate in my popcorn.

Alicia:

I like, like a sweet and salty.

Alicia:

I like that a lot too.

Alicia:

And what is your coffee order?

Alicia:

Well, do you drink coffee?

Fanny:

I can't either.

Fanny:

I'm a hot chocolate girl.

Fanny:

Okay.

Fanny:

Okay.

Fanny:

So I definitely, yeah, I love hot chocolate and I love actually trying

Fanny:

the different flavors, like trying to look like an expert, you know?

Fanny:

Like I have this one more and I love this one more because X, Y, and Z.

Fanny:

But if there is chocolate, count me in.

Alicia:

You do like dark chocolate or white chocolate or milk chocolate.

Alicia:

What's your favorite?

Fanny:

Count me out of white because it's not chocolate, in my opinion.

Fanny:

And count me out of 99% of dark, because I can go to 75%.

Fanny:

But after that it's like way too bitter.

Fanny:

So I love, yeah, I love variety.

Alicia:

I love that.

Alicia:

Okay, let's do, what is your best purchase of this month?

Fanny:

I bought an airbag jacket for my horse riding practice.

Fanny:

Ooh.

Fanny:

Helps me feel really safe.

Fanny:

Now I can jump without the fear of falling and breaking anything important.

Fanny:

I am a hundred percent protected.

Alicia:

That's amazing.

Alicia:

So is it like it's an airbag jacket, so if you fall, then it kind of like deploys.

Alicia:

Yep, exactly.

Fanny:

Wow.

Fanny:

From, from neck to coccyx.

Alicia:

Wow.

Alicia:

Yeah.

Alicia:

That is very, very helpful.

Alicia:

Yeah.

Alicia:

So I love that.

Alicia:

What kind of mic did you get?

Fanny:

Blue Yeti.

Fanny:

Like a lot of us.

Alicia:

I'm gonna link the mics down below for you guys.

Alicia:

I know a lot of you guys are interested in doing a podcast, so I'm gonna

Alicia:

link that down below for you guys so you guys can see that as well.

Alicia:

It's the same mic that I used to.

Alicia:

It's a Yeti microphone and even though we had complications at the beginning of this

Alicia:

episode, it is actually a really good mic.

Alicia:

I think it's my cord that's actually giving me a little bit of trouble.

Alicia:

So last question is, if you were not doing this as a job, what would you be doing?

Fanny:

That's an interesting one.

Fanny:

I wish I could be a ballet dancer, but I would have to go back in time

Fanny:

and do several other decisions.

Fanny:

If I was not doing this, I think I would be an even more a teacher.

Fanny:

Well, that's kind of what I do because I'm a coach and a teacher at the same time.

Fanny:

So I'm gonna say I cannot do anything else than what I do because it's what I love.

Fanny:

So why would I want to do something else that's cheating.

Fanny:

Sorry.

Alicia:

It's okay.

Alicia:

It took me forever.

Alicia:

I asked that question to so many people, until someone actually asked me back on

Alicia:

the podcast and I had the same reaction.

Alicia:

I'm like, well, I can't imagine doing anything else.

Alicia:

I don't know what I would do.

Alicia:

So it took me a really long time.

Alicia:

It took me like a good month to figure out and be like, oh, okay,

Alicia:

I would probably be doing this.

Alicia:

Love that.

Alicia:

Love that.

Alicia:

Okay, so I'm gonna have everything linked to for Fanny down below

Alicia:

for you guys in the show notes.

Alicia:

Also on Instagram.

Alicia:

You guys can find her there.

Alicia:

She'll be on the Confident AF podcast Instagram.

Alicia:

As well as all the books that we listed in this episode.

Alicia:

As well as anything that has been listed on any other podcast is gonna be in

Alicia:

the Amazon storefront for you guys, so you guys can check that out as well.

Alicia:

So you can check out our faves, you guys can go to the Confident AF

Alicia:

podcast Instagram Follow Fanny as well.

Alicia:

I'll have her linked and she'll be on the podcast Instagram.

Alicia:

So thank you so much for coming on.

Alicia:

Thank you for sharing all your knowledge with us.

Alicia:

I really appreciate it and giving us your time.

Alicia:

Thank you.

Fanny:

And thank you for everyone who has tuned in in today's episode.

Fanny:

You're amazing.

Alicia:

Yes.

Alicia:

Thank you guys for listening.

Alicia:

If you guys liked this episode or found it helpful, make sure you

Alicia:

share it for us, please and tag us.

Alicia:

We'd love to see it.

Alicia:

And until next week, I will see you guys next week.

Alicia:

And that's a wrap.

Alicia:

Thank you for tuning in today.

Alicia:

I hope you liked this conversation.

Alicia:

I really enjoyed having it, and Alicia's amazing.

Alicia:

Go check her confident as fuck podcast although we did have

Alicia:

some mic issues, which is strange, but I am not really tech savvy.

Alicia:

You already know that, so I hope you'll forgive me.

Alicia:

If you found this episode, interesting, feel free to share it with a loved one.

Alicia:

if you want to support the show, feel free to subscribe to the podcast on

Alicia:

your favorite platform and rate it .On apple podcast, click on the star

Alicia:

rating and click on write a review, on Spotify, click on the star rating.

Alicia:

If you want to go further and explore.

Alicia:

I have in this show notes, the link to my ebook, it's called essence:

Alicia:

reconnecting to your body to awaken the pleasure to feel alive totally for free.

Alicia:

It comes with my regular love letters.

Alicia:

Thank you for tuning in today.

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