Hi everybody, I'm Victoria and I don't drink. Welcome to Sober Alcohol Free Stories. Today I'm talking to Richie. Richie turned to alcohol following trauma during his childhood and teens and a sporting injury that chaned the pathway his life was taking. Ritchie describes to us his toolkit, the growth of sober muscles and how he successfully navigated a pathway to sobriety and now uses those sober skills to help many others to do the same with his coaching company thestrongandsobermind.com

Hi everybody, I'm Victoria

and I don't drink.

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Welcome to Sober Alcohol Free Stories.

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Today I'm talking to Ritchie.

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Ritchie turned to alcohol following

trauma during his childhood and teens.

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, Ritchie describes to us his toolkit,

the growth of sober muscles and how

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he successfully navigated a pathway to

sobriety and now uses those sober skills

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to help many others to do the same.

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vic-host563_1_12-10-2024_100937:

Hi, Richie.

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Lovely to have you on today.

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How are you?

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richie_1_12-10-2024_100940: I'm very good.

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Thank you, Vic, for having me on the show.

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looking forward to having a chat to

you and, talking all things sober.

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vic-host563_1_12-10-2024_100937:

Well, that's the aim of the game.

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so welcome.

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richie_1_12-10-2024_100940: Thank

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vic-host563_1_12-10-2024_100937:

as always, just want to spend

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our half an hour today together,

talking about your story.

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so always start right at the beginning

by asking that question, you know, you've

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Somebody who doesn't drink, and there

is bound to be a story behind that.

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probably one that will inspire other

people who felt the way that you did when

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you made that decision, to potentially

do the same or become curious about it.

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so over to you.

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tell me your story, Richie.

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How did you become sre?

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richie_1_12-10-2024_100940: Yeah, it's,

um, it's been a bit of a revelation for

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myself, because it was something that I

didn't really think I had a problem with.

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it wasn't something that I thought

that was, um, really affected

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me, until I started actually

really having a good look at it.

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growing up, I came from a sporting

background, from an early age I was

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playing football, to quite a high level.

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drinking and that kind of side of things

never really affected me as like a

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team going into through those years.

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But then I had a horrific injury,

which stopped me playing sports

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totally for a couple of years,

at least on during that time.

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I could go out with my friends and kind

of the regular things that people do,

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going to the pub, a couple of drinks,

going out for dinner, having a couple of

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drinks it became more Acceptable for me

to do that, not really thinking ahead or

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not really thinking about kind of your

life set out as you do as a teenager

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vic-host563_1_12-10-2024_100937: Mm-hmm

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richie_1_12-10-2024_100940: and then

going into things like starting work,

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for example, more like a full time basis.

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And then it became the things of having

a couple of drinks on a Friday after the.

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Busy week in work with everybody else

or, you know, stopping off at the

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pub on the way home and just having a

couple of drinks on the way or even,

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having dinner with your partner and

having a glass of wine or comes a

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bottle of wine and, um, know, just

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vic-host563_1_12-10-2024_100937: Mm-hmm

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richie_1_12-10-2024_100940:

the weekends become going out.

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Where to go, what to do, of drinks,

a couple of drinks in the house

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beforehand,, going out and getting

really quite drunk on the weekend.

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And then that turns

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vic-host563_1_12-10-2024_100937: Mm-hmm

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richie_1_12-10-2024_100940: Oh, I

need a drink on the Monday then just

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to kind of take the edge off it.

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of the dog.

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I know people use that

phrase all the time.

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vic-host563_1_12-10-2024_100937: Yeah.

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richie_1_12-10-2024_100940:

kind of like that thing.

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If you, you slip into a pattern,

into a habit, you become

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vic-host563_1_12-10-2024_100937: hmm,

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richie_1_12-10-2024_100940: you

know, and it never really became

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apparent to me how much I was drinking.

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I mean, never really sat

down and said, right, okay.

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You know, I often remember

making the joke with my partner

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when we're cooking, you know,

cooking a nice meal and it says in

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the recipe, use a glass of a, , of

leftover wine, like there was never,

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ever leftover wine in the house.

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You know, it was great.

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All of these things that.

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Yeah, you just think about it and

you just think what they talk about.

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So you open wine use a glass in the

thing and then kind of like finish

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the bottle, you know, so it's kind

of that you, you kind of fall into

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without being any kind of full thought

to how that affects your health, your

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mental wellbeing, just your general

kind of getting out and doing things.

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And it comes to a point where my partner

wanted to give up drinking and she knew

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that she was not performing and not,

of doing things that she wanted to do.

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And we never seemed to have

time to do those kind of things.

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So, Some of the times that we wanted

to spend together doing more protective

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stuff and being more protective in work

and things like that, that was like

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quite a reason to be able to do that.

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And I really appreciated the fact

that she was actually looking

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inward and what she wanted to do.

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We kind of like decided

to do that together.

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And I said, like, I'll

give a bank card with you.

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I'm quite happy to support . And

I hadn't really thought about it.

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And, it came to a point when I was going

out still, and I had an evening where I

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felt really groggy, felt really bad, had

a couple of drinks, been out with work.

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I hadn't really been, a bad

night, been quite a good night,

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but I was feeling terrible.

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I thought to myself, right, you know,

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gotta go home, sleep this off,

get up in the morning, and have

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a real good think about things.

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I didn't have a drink after that.

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It got to a point, when I was

looking back, even if I'd had

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a pint or two, I felt terrible.

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I felt really ill.

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I felt really bad, real bad headaches,

hangovers, really kind of hadn't

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addressed that until I actually sat

down and seriously thought about it.

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And I hadn't really thought about it

because I wasn't in that position that

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I thought maybe something was wrong.

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When I was growing up, I had

a lot of trauma, going through

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my childhood and into my teens.

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really kind of addressed that.

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I never kind of really

addressed why I was drinking.

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I never kind of really Going out and

why I had to have a couple of drinks

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just to relax and enjoy myself.

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of started thinking about

that on a serious level.

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this year recently,

I've got into coaching.

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and all the things that I

wanted to do is look at.

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People's growth mindset, sobriety.

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so last September, 2024, I,

decided to give up alcohol.

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the night out that I'd had and the

Sunday morning, waking up, feeling rough.

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that was it.

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I put no stop to it.

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And basically.

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I had to kind of try and find

what am I going to do about it,

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personally, because it's a big step.

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people don't realize sometimes

that, how much of a step it is.

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I guess I've been In inverted commas,

lucky in some respects because, I had

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an experience when I thought to myself,

right, that's it, that I've had enough of

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this, I've had enough of this sickness,

feeling bad, not being productive,

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not feeling like I'm pushing myself.

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And there's a good opportunity to start

to do that because I was going into

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the coaching and luckily the coaching

and my sobriety kind of went hand in

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hand pushing myself, also learning

doing the study in, and it gave me

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a lot of time to think about things.

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And also gave me a lot of time

where I was occupied taking my

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diploma and going through and

getting the qualification itself.

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And that carried me for

six months, um, through.

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So it was quite lucky in that respect.

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but also he taught me a lot

about alcohol and this is like

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where I am at the moment now.

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So moving to.

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Being a middle lane drinker that kind

of got to the point where I had to

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say, it's either going to be this the

time and feeling bad and feeling rough

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not and not presenting myself and not

pushing myself to be sober, give it

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all up and being able to maybe help

somebody else as well within that

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vic-host563_1_12-10-2024_100937: mm hmm,

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richie_1_12-10-2024_100940: of, where

I've been, what I've done, how I know it

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affects me be able to talk to somebody

on how it affects them making them

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understand the reasons behind that.

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what

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vic-host563_1_12-10-2024_100937:

Mm-hmm . Mm-hmm

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richie_1_12-10-2024_100940: and what,

makes people drink, I suppose, , together

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with obviously the knowledge about

alcohol and what it actually is.

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it's pretty horrific, , you know, it's one

of the worst legal drugs that there is.

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but it's something that we need to

make sure that people understand

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with the journey that people have.

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So I cut

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vic-host563_1_12-10-2024_100937: Yeah.

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richie_1_12-10-2024_100940: now

to being, 430 something days.

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vic-host563_1_12-10-2024_100937: Wow.

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Look at that.

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Congratulations.

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richie_1_12-10-2024_100940: a friend

of mine actually said on the weekend,

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how long have you been sober now?

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And, I'm one of these people

that everyone has a day one.

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vic-host563_1_12-10-2024_100937: Mm-hmm

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richie_1_12-10-2024_100940:

as many day ones as you want,

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but the actual thing is never stop trying.

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vic-host563_1_12-10-2024_100937: Mm-hmm

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richie_1_12-10-2024_100940:

to do that, you should never

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really stop trying to do that.

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But I couldn't remember.

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really couldn't remember.

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And I was thinking, well I know

it's definitely over a year.

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I know it's like 13, 14 months.

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I couldn't, I couldn't work it out.

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Or I'd stopped actually thinking about it.

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vic-host563_1_12-10-2024_100937: Yeah.

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richie_1_12-10-2024_100940: people,

say, are you still not drinking or

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are you still this or, have you had

a drink yet, can I get you a drink,

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vic-host563_1_12-10-2024_100937:

Just this assumption, isn't it,

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that you're gonna wanna do it again?

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It's funny how people can't begin

to imagine, and I'm not judging

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them because I was exactly the same.

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can't begin to imagine that

actually you enjoy your life more.

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richie_1_12-10-2024_100940: Oh,

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vic-host563_1_12-10-2024_100937:

When you have stopped drinking.

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You

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richie_1_12-10-2024_100940: Yeah,

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vic-host563_1_12-10-2024_100937: you?

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And it's funny.

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richie_1_12-10-2024_100940: I think

the one thing that we, is, the actual

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sober side of yourself never actually

realizes how much time you have.

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That's the most important thing

because a lot of the triggers that

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people have is 'cause they have time.

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You know, even after that,

you know, the hungry,

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vic-host563_1_12-10-2024_100937:

Oh yeah, the HALT thing.

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Yeah.

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What is it?

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Hungry, angry, lonely, tired.

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Is that it?

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HALT.

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richie_1_12-10-2024_100940: So,

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vic-host563_1_12-10-2024_100937: Yeah.

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richie_1_12-10-2024_100940: you have

these triggers that come up and,

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time is one of them if you're bored,

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vic-host563_1_12-10-2024_100937: Yeah.

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richie_1_12-10-2024_100940: it comes

to a point, I was lucky in the respect

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that I never really drank on my own at

home, but I understand why people do.

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vic-host563_1_12-10-2024_100937: Yeah.

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richie_1_12-10-2024_100940: I

think that is something that

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frightens a lot of people.

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as long as you can make yourself

aware of the triggers that you have,

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basically write down your triggers.

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Every time that you feel

that you should have a drink.

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What is actually triggering that?

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So part of the exercise that

they do is, time you have a

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trigger, you write it down.

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vic-host563_1_12-10-2024_100937: Yeah.

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richie_1_12-10-2024_100940:

a list of triggers there, and

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if you're thinking about that,

what can you do to combat that?

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What can you do instead?

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Go out for a

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vic-host563_1_12-10-2024_100937: Yeah.

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richie_1_12-10-2024_100940: get into

nature, take the dog out, because the

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vic-host563_1_12-10-2024_100937:

It's a proper interception, isn't it?

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Yeah.

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richie_1_12-10-2024_100940: for myself,

it's the mindset, getting people

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into being able to kind of recognize

where they are, they're doing at that

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time, what that trigger is, how it

affects them, how it makes them feel,

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what can you do to combat it, and

let's go forward and do that instead.

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vic-host563_1_12-10-2024_100937: Yeah.

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richie_1_12-10-2024_100940: say to people,

you know, that first initial thought in

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your mind is just a thought, an action.

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It's just a thought in your mind.

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And I used to stop,

count to 10, think again.

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if you take 10 seconds to not think

about that, or productively think

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about what you can do instead.

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That craving will kind of go, if the

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vic-host563_1_12-10-2024_100937: Yeah.

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richie_1_12-10-2024_100940: is narrowed

down and it starts to stop, you're better

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on your journey then going forward.

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vic-host563_1_12-10-2024_100937: Yeah.

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Well, you build, you build

sober muscles, don't you?

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Because you exercise that

restraint and the pause.

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I've got a lot of friends who

don't drink, who meditate.

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And the reason they meditate is

for what you've just said, because

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it teaches you in meditation,

not for sobriety, for everything.

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to just take a minute just to take a

breath and pause on something so you

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have time to act and react in a different

way to perhaps what your instinct was

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before and that's what this is about

when you when you're trying isn't it

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to stop drinking alcohol It's about

changing those pathways that you're

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used to taking and just stopping at

the junction and thinking, no, I'm not,

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that's not what I'm going to do today.

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I'm going to do something else.

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like you rightly said, I'm

going to go for a walk.

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I'm going to have a bubble bath.

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I'm going to get my pajamas on.

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Halt is great.

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I really like that because a lot of

the time for me, that was relevant.

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So the hungry, angry, lonely, tired,

just address that thing and find

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another solution to it because there is.

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Alcohol is a solution in the moment,

but there are other solutions.

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And the problem with alcohol is

that it then has a consequence.

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So it's almost like you're fixing

something with something that's going

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to give you a consequence as well.

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Like, why would you want to do that?

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Bubble baths don't have a consequence.

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Pajamas don't have a consequence.

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richie_1_12-10-2024_100940:

It's a good point that you made

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then, because you know, a lot of

people, think about the action,

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vic-host563_1_12-10-2024_100937: Yeah.

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richie_1_12-10-2024_100940:

and they don't think about the

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actual consequence, and that's,

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vic-host563_1_12-10-2024_100937: Yeah.

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richie_1_12-10-2024_100940: do

you use the phrase, if you jumped

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over the wall without knowing what

was on the other side, would you,

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vic-host563_1_12-10-2024_100937: Yeah.

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richie_1_12-10-2024_100940: you know,

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vic-host563_1_12-10-2024_100937: Yeah.

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richie_1_12-10-2024_100940: that

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vic-host563_1_12-10-2024_100937:

Of course you wouldn't.

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richie_1_12-10-2024_100940:

of course you wouldn't, crazy.

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vic-host563_1_12-10-2024_100937: Although

there's always a little bit of me, I

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think there is a minx part of me, which

might have been my drinking, that kind

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of thinks, oh, I wonder what, I wonder

what, what would happen if I did.

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You have to actually stop yourself

doing that kind of thing though.

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richie_1_12-10-2024_100940: it's one of

these things that I think we look at like

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change, my father, sadly passed away quite

some time ago now, but I always think

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about him all the time some of the things

he used to say to me growing up, Where

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he would put little nuggets of wisdom in

your head, knowing that later on you would

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realize exactly what he was talking about.

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vic-host563_1_12-10-2024_100937: Yeah.

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richie_1_12-10-2024_100940: not

necessarily at that time, he would

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vic-host563_1_12-10-2024_100937: Yeah.

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richie_1_12-10-2024_100940: that you

would think about it, growing up and

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how it would affect you in later life.

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He used to say to me,

imagine the garden path.

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It's got hedgerows either side, narrow.

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And

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vic-host563_1_12-10-2024_100937: Yeah,

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richie_1_12-10-2024_100940: down

that path, you come to the rake

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that's lying on the floor to go

past it, you have to step on it.

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And every

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vic-host563_1_12-10-2024_100937: yeah,

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richie_1_12-10-2024_100940:

on it, that rake comes up and

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smacks you hard in the face.

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vic-host563_1_12-10-2024_100937: yeah,

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richie_1_12-10-2024_100940: He

said, imagine what that pain

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feels like when you get that.

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And he said, how many times do you need

to walk down that path before you realize?

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That by picking the rake up

moving it out of the way, it's not

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vic-host563_1_12-10-2024_100937: yeah,

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richie_1_12-10-2024_100940:

going to smack you in the face.

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So how many

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vic-host563_1_12-10-2024_100937: yeah,

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richie_1_12-10-2024_100940: you

need to do something before you

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realize the change is needed for

you to move on without any pain?

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vic-host563_1_12-10-2024_100937: yeah.

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Oh, it's a brilliant analogy, isn't it?

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richie_1_12-10-2024_100940: love it.

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vic-host563_1_12-10-2024_100937: And

I think, lots of the answer to that

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is different for everybody, isn't it?

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Because some people really do need to

get whacked in the face a good few times

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before they're going to make a decision

that it's not what they want anymore.

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And for some people, it will just be once.

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richie_1_12-10-2024_100940: Yeah.

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vic-host563_1_12-10-2024_100937: It's

just, it depends on what is it for you?

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That's a really good question

for people to ask themselves.

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richie_1_12-10-2024_100940: I

think this is what happened to me.

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You know, eventually

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vic-host563_1_12-10-2024_100937: Right.

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richie_1_12-10-2024_100940: is

that thing of like, I had that one,

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chance that, I got to the point where

everybody's journey is different, and

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will come to a point in the crossroads.

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We talked about crossroads earlier

when you come to the point and the

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crossroads already have to make a real.

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decision.

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And if

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vic-host563_1_12-10-2024_100937: Yeah.

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Mm-hmm

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richie_1_12-10-2024_100940: by alcohol,

or even if it is really clouded by

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alcohol, that decision, once you make

your mind up, you will do anything that

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you can to go forward on the right path.

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That's really important.

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But it's realizing that people

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vic-host563_1_12-10-2024_100937: Yeah.

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richie_1_12-10-2024_100940:

to handle that.

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They need to hand up that step,

you know, to make that decision.

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vic-host563_1_12-10-2024_100937:

Yeah, they do.

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And I think people also need

to know that other people have

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done it and it's gonna be okay.

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it was interesting when you were saying

that you grew up with some trauma

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and you, you were drinking, but you

didn't really feel that you were.

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Drinking enough that

warranted, you know, an issue.

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What's so fascinating about that is

related to what you said about it being

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a drug and, and how we in the UK, see

this as something that everybody does.

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it normalizes it so much for us.

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It's very difficult for you to

sit there while you're drinking

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your wine, perhaps because of

some trauma that you're trying to.

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But everybody else is sitting

around you doing the same thing.

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It's hard for you to think

this isn't good for me.

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And you end up almost sort of hiding

behind, but it's normal and you don't

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mean to because you believe it's

the story we're all told this is so

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normal, but if you'd done that with

heroin, someone would have said to you.

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richie_1_12-10-2024_100940: Yeah.

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vic-host563_1_12-10-2024_100937:

Hold on a minute.

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, you're using that because of this

trauma and you need help and we'll

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support you and help you to stop.

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But it's like, you have to battle through

this extra layer of everyone telling

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you it's normal before you reach a point

where you go, well, even if it's normal.

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It isn't doing me any good and

I don't want to do it anymore.

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It's like this additional layer that we

have to have just because society has said

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alcohol is this wonderful thing, isn't it?

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richie_1_12-10-2024_100940: I think

the point that you made there is,

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definitely one of the things with,

mental health and trauma, a lot

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of people use alcohol as a mask.

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vic-host563_1_12-10-2024_100937: Yeah.

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richie_1_12-10-2024_100940: that, will

give them the confidence, short term

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to go out and do something that they

wouldn't normally do, whether that's

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an anxiety based of neurological,

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mask of able to take that first step into

being a social environment, for example,

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vic-host563_1_12-10-2024_100937: Yeah.

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richie_1_12-10-2024_100940: especially

with, Christmas just past the social

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anxiety of going to work parties, the

social anxiety of being with your family,

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whether you love them or not, that

within yourself, that social anxiety

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itself can be crippling for people often

the cases they would find if I have a

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drink, I feel better I drink, I'll be

more relaxed if I have a drink that, you

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know, but they don't see behind, , That

mask enough to deal with the trauma first

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vic-host563_1_12-10-2024_100937: Yeah.

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richie_1_12-10-2024_100940:

unless you deal with that, it

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will always be there for you.

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I've taken a lot of steps over

the last couple of months to deal

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with my trauma as well I realize

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vic-host563_1_12-10-2024_100937: Yeah.

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richie_1_12-10-2024_100940:

without the alcohol.

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vic-host563_1_12-10-2024_100937: Yeah.

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richie_1_12-10-2024_100940: How

much the trauma still affected me,

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even being a grown up, you know,

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vic-host563_1_12-10-2024_100937: Yeah.

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richie_1_12-10-2024_100940: into the

adult world now, as opposed to being

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a teen, how much really affected me

through my life scratching the surface

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of sobriety is basically being able

to let me look through that window.

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And I realized that how much

drinking for me was a mask or a

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crutch, to actually kind of rely on

rather than dealing with the actual

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trauma that was there at the time.

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So being able to take that back to

its very basic roots and deal with

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has now let me free from that as well.

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You know, so it's kind of moved

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vic-host563_1_12-10-2024_100937: Yeah.

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richie_1_12-10-2024_100940: I

think that one thing at a time.

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With sobriety, if people deal

with sobriety they realize how

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much more they can do, you get

a lot more time to do things.

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vic-host563_1_12-10-2024_100937: Yeah.

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richie_1_12-10-2024_100940: we, we

often treat lot of, clients with

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the, you know, give yourself enough.

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Things to do, everything from

like doing something like that.

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They wouldn't feel that they would

normally do maybe something like

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volunteering to do something or a craft

or a skill painting art be creative.

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Get out there, you know, get out there,

walk in the dark, get out there into

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nature, go swimming, do wild water

swimming, , something totally different

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that they wouldn't normally want to do.

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it's amazing how many people that we

speak to then they're like, can't believe

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I went to like dawn swimming in the sea,

you know, and it was absolutely amazing.

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vic-host563_1_12-10-2024_100937: Yeah.

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richie_1_12-10-2024_100940: back with

these fantastic success stories that

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they have from giving up alcohol.

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vic-host563_1_12-10-2024_100937: Yeah.

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richie_1_12-10-2024_100940: It's

something that we need to look at.

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It's something that, we

need to explore more.

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unfortunately, we're in a

position where, alcohol is quite

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a prevalent thing, as a drug.

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vic-host563_1_12-10-2024_100937: It is.

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richie_1_12-10-2024_100940: and it's,

pushed on TV . Normalized, in the

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press, in adverts television programs

and things like that, which is often

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difficult for people if they're

trying to give up alcohol, but if

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vic-host563_1_12-10-2024_100937: Yeah.

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richie_1_12-10-2024_100940: all the time.

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vic-host563_1_12-10-2024_100937: Oh,

It's for every occasion, isn't it?

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I could have been at a wedding.

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a funeral.

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I could have been just haven't

picked the kids up from school.

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I could have dropped

the kids off at school.

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I could have all of

those different things.

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And somebody would say to me,

Oh, time for a glass of wine.

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Somebody would say it to me at some point.

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I can't tell you how many

times at work I join a call.

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Okay.

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And somebody will mention I'm

dying for a glass of wine tonight.

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So it's so normal.

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And I'm not judging people for doing

that because it is so normal to do it.

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But if you were someone who is

trying to stop, you have to be

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able to hear those messages and

realize that for you, they're not.

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richie_1_12-10-2024_100940: yeah,

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vic-host563_1_12-10-2024_100937:

They're not applicable.

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And play your own tape forward.

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If I have a glass of wine at five

o'clock, when I finished work, I'm not

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just going to have one glass of wine.

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Am I?

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That's the truth.

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And then what am I going to feel

like by the end of the night?

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What am I going to have achieved?

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It makes your world really small and all

those lovely things that you've mentioned,

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the sea swimming, the walking, the getting

out running, all of it, the crafts,

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whatever it is that floats your boat.

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richie_1_12-10-2024_100940: yeah,

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vic-host563_1_12-10-2024_100937: Those

things don't get enough space in your

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life if you're drinking, because you're

spending the hours drinking, recovering

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from drinking, or thinking about drinking.

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richie_1_12-10-2024_100940:

You're not present,

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vic-host563_1_12-10-2024_100937: No.

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richie_1_12-10-2024_100940: of the,

the things that we kind of look at as

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well is how present you are for people,

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vic-host563_1_12-10-2024_100937: Yeah.

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richie_1_12-10-2024_100940: your kids,

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vic-host563_1_12-10-2024_100937: Yeah,

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richie_1_12-10-2024_100940:

know, your friends as well.

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Really, because alcohol drives the wedge

between all sorts of relationships.

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vic-host563_1_12-10-2024_100937: it does.

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richie_1_12-10-2024_100940: of these

things that, like I said, until we

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start normalizing the point that.

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If you say that you don't drink in

such an environment that's by alcohol,

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vic-host563_1_12-10-2024_100937: Mm hmm.

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richie_1_12-10-2024_100940:

you know, something special.

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If you can say, and

everybody will tend to you.

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People will tend

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vic-host563_1_12-10-2024_100937: Mm hmm.

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richie_1_12-10-2024_100940: I had

an allergy where a friend of mine

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said to me, when I first started, I

was into my second month, I think.

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And he said, are you still not drinking?

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vic-host563_1_12-10-2024_100937: Mm hmm.

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richie_1_12-10-2024_100940:

I'm still not drinking.

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vic-host563_1_12-10-2024_100937: Mm hmm.

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Mm hmm.

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richie_1_12-10-2024_100940:

just to reframe it.

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He said, okay.

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I said, if I told you I

was going to do a marathon,

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how would you feel about that?

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And he said, well, I'd be quite surprised.

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vic-host563_1_12-10-2024_100937: Mm hmm.

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Mm hmm.

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Mm hmm.

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Mm hmm.

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Mm hmm.

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Mm

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richie_1_12-10-2024_100940: And

he said, yeah, of course I would.

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but, you'd understand that I'd have

to give up some things, some time

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and, maybe not go to some events

because I'd be training, right?

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yeah, I get that.

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And I said, and when the time

came, you'd be at the sidelines

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for me, cheering me on.

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yeah, absolutely.

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I'd support you all the way.

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I said, so if you support me

doing a marathon, why can't

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you support me doing sobriety?

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And he was like, actually,

yeah, I do get it.

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I really understand where you are now.

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is something you wanted to do,

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vic-host563_1_12-10-2024_100937: hmm.

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richie_1_12-10-2024_100940: to it,

and now you're actually doing it.

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So I will support you.

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vic-host563_1_12-10-2024_100937: Yeah.

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richie_1_12-10-2024_100940: that kind of

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vic-host563_1_12-10-2024_100937: Ah.

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richie_1_12-10-2024_100940: is being,

that visualization for some people means a

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vic-host563_1_12-10-2024_100937: Mm hmm.

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richie_1_12-10-2024_100940: Because

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vic-host563_1_12-10-2024_100937: Yeah.

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richie_1_12-10-2024_100940: them

exactly where you are exactly

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what, you know, you want to do.

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I know people in our community

groups that we've got at the moment

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have come back to doing things like

ultra running and things like that,

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vic-host563_1_12-10-2024_100937: Mm hmm.

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Mm hmm.

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Mm hmm.

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Mm

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richie_1_12-10-2024_100940: you know,

being very successful is taking that step.

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But I think the most important thing to

remember from talking today is everybody's

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journey is different, but everybody's

journey has a start point to it.

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Already you have your start,

your middle and your ending.

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It doesn't matter you start from,

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vic-host563_1_12-10-2024_100937: hmm.

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richie_1_12-10-2024_100940:

your middle and your ending.

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You know, you are halfway through

or you're on your ending already.

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You can always start again, take the

first day doesn't matter how many

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days it takes for the first day,

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vic-host563_1_12-10-2024_100937: Mm hmm.

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richie_1_12-10-2024_100940: if

you really want to do this, if you

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feel the benefit that you need to

do that, it will start for people.

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vic-host563_1_12-10-2024_100937: It's

such good advice and a really, kind

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thing to say, because people do struggle

and wonder, there's often the question,

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am I as bad as, am I worse than, and I

think people can feel quite hopeless.

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Spoken to lots of people who feel very

hopeless about how huge the mountain

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seems, for all the reasons we've talked

about, you know, this whole , it's

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just what everybody does in society,

but also, there's different levels

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of addiction that people may have

got to, but you're absolutely right.

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You just start where you

are and change the ending.

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that's what you do.

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and you do that in whatever way you

can, whether that's AA, whether it's

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joining something, I'm in a group called

Soberistas, which is wonderful, Lots

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of Facebook groups that I'm part of.

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Sober coaching is a great route.

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So.

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I wanted to give you an opportunity

to say a bit about your sober

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coaching , because there could be

somebody out there who feels that they

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could benefit from talking to you.

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They like the sound of you and think maybe

you could help them with their journey.

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So could you tell us a little bit

about what you might offer someone?

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richie_1_12-10-2024_100940: that's great.

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Thank you very much for giving

me the opportunity for that.

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I'm a sober mind coach.

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so basically we help people

who are sober, curious, have

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vic-host563_1_12-10-2024_100937: Mm hmm.

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richie_1_12-10-2024_100940: on sobriety

and need, Bit of help with that next step.

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we are at the strong and sober mind.

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the strong, the word and sober mind.

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com.

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And contact for our email address.

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The strong and sober mind.

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we do a lot of other

things apart from sobriety.

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we do growth coaching, executive

coaching, and also sporting

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resilience as well, which includes,

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vic-host563_1_12-10-2024_100937: Mm hmm.

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richie_1_12-10-2024_100940: people

moving from sports into sobriety because

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we know that sometimes it's really

difficult when you give up sports that,

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you fall into that kind of thing as well.

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vic-host563_1_12-10-2024_100937: Yeah,

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richie_1_12-10-2024_100940: of work

with, a lot of charities as well.

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We work with mind and, local

suicide prevention charity as well.

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So, yeah, anybody wants to get in touch

with us, all our details on there.

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We have a contact form.

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obviously when the podcast

goes out, I'm happy to put our

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details in the comments as well.

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it's a fantastic opportunity

to speak to you today.

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Thank you.

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vic-host563_1_12-10-2024_100937: it's been

really lovely speaking to you, Richie.

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Thank you so much for telling us your

story it sounds like you really went

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through the mill as a young man having

your life changed around with your

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sport and injury and it's wonderful.

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That you came to the realization,

supported your partner.

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and now here you are just supporting

God knows how many people through

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the work that you do and from

sharing your story on the podcast.

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congratulations on everything

you've told me about today.

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and thank you so much for

coming on and talking to us

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richie_1_12-10-2024_100940: welcome.

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Thank you very much.

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There is a positive outcome for everybody.

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vic-host563_1_12-10-2024_100937:

There is, there is.

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You just got to give it a go.

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Jump in.

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Thanks, Richie.

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Bye.

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richie_1_12-10-2024_100940: Bye.

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