In this Timeless Voyager Radio interview, Michael Lindemann recounts his journey from complete UFO skeptic to the author of "UFOs and the Alien Presence". Bruce Stephen Holms discusses Lindemann's complete 180 during this vintage 1990 program with Michael Lindemann.

During the program Michael explains how a secret 1980s weapon became the motivation that led him down the UFO/ET "rabbit hole" and changed his entire perspective regarding Gov't conspiracy theories including the "earth penetrating" war head launched on an excalibre missile.

What makes this program so interesting and sometimes problematic is that in 1990 most of what you will hear was purely fantasy and yet today, most of this information is readily available on 1000s of documents available on the internet today.