Delma's sexism is apparently on full display when we join our hosts. Delma and Shadiin then discuss the various ways in which we can sometimes harbor ill-will toward people in our lives and what constitutes a reasonable expectation for dealing with it.

Our hosts then welcome Stevi Atkins and Teresa Springer of Wellness Services INC-an AIDS service organization based out of Flint, MI. They discuss the history of HIV work, the future of the work, the culture they've worked to cultivate for clients and staff, and how their personal histories have informed their life's work.

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