With John Dulay busy speculating on his next crypto buy, Esports Forever co-host Ryan Hebert takes over the reins as the host of episode 3 on the Fast Crypto podcast. And he has a special guest -- Mark Thomas, the Co-Founder & CEO of ZenSports and ZenSportsia, and host of the Betting Matters podcast.

Ryan and Mark talk about everything -- Mark's career path as an entrepreneur, the origins of ZenSports, what it was like to launch a sports betting app and get licensed in Nevada, the new ZenSportsia metaverse, and why the haters are wrong about NFT's and crypto.