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Episode 311st June 2023 • The Connectedness Podcast with Rev Karen Cleveland • Rev Karen Cleveland
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Have you ever wondered –

How to Connect with your guides?

In this fun and enlightening conversation with an Angel and Spirit Guide communicator Melissa Kitto, she discusses just that. But not only how to connect with your guides, we also disucss what our soul is and life purpose.

It’s important for us to learn about these if we want to lead a satisfying, meaningful life. Following someone else’s dream for us doesn’t lead to our own happy life.

In this episode you’l learn:

  • What the four spiritual gifts are
  • The nature of Guides and Angels
  • What coincidences mean
  • The nature of our soul
  • The proper way to ask questions of your Guides

About Melissa:

Melissa Kitto is a certified spiritual coach and workshop facilitator.. With over 30 years experience in the field of spiritual growth and development; Melissa teaches practical tools to develop your intuition, connect with your guides and live your unique life purpose. She is the author and creator of the How to Communicate with your Angels Online course and the Authentic and Aligned Program to find your deeper soul’s calling.

  Learn more about Melissa at her website CommunicateWithAngels.com and on her YouTube Channel.  

 More information on how to hear your angels: https://communicatewithangels.com/hearyourangelssignup/ 

 More information on her class Authentic and Aligned https://communicatewithangels.com/authenticandaligned 

I really hope to connect with you personally so please send me a message here or join me in my Facebook group https://www.facebook.com/groups/connectednesswithrevkaren. And in the meantime, enjoy the show! 

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Rev Karen:

So basically you are energy, you are a soul with a

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body, not a body with a soul.

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And so you, um, you have a unique purpose.

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Your guides, you kind of have a contract with them, so to speak.

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You attract these helpers before you are born.

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So you can, they can help you master the lessons that you've

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come to learn this lifetime.

Rev Karen:

Hello and welcome to the Connectedness Podcast.

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Just as you might have guessed, I talk about connection and connectedness

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on this podcast, our connection with everything in the world around us.

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Whether you see it or not, we're all connected, and it doesn't matter if it's

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our dog, our cat, our God, our body.

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And I'll also talk about some more.

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Abstract connections like our career or our land, our community, our emotions,

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your body life is all about connection.

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So the sooner we recognize that, the sooner we can have an

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easier, more meaningful life.

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I will talk about these connections through different lenses.

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Things like synchronicities and coincidences are just.

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Everyday little bits of magic and miracles that we, we usually dismiss.

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It's really important that we pay attention to all of this so we can

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live an easier, more meaningful life.

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So welcome to the show.

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I'm your host, Karen Cleveland.

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Welcome back to the show everyone.

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I'm super excited to introduce my guest today.

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She's an associate of mine.

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Melissa Kitto is a certified spiritual coach and workshop facilitator.

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She has over.

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30 years experience in the field of spiritual growth and development.

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She teaches practical tools to help develop your intuition, connect with your

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guides, and live your unique life purpose.

Rev Karen:

Welcome to the show, Melissa.

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It's great to have you.

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Thank you for having me.

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I'm so excited to be here.

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Yeah.

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I'm so excited to talk to you about this today because a lot of people,

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you know, will dig into it, but.

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Need help knowing how to connect with, with some guidance

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and living a life purpose.

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So why don't you give us just a little bit of story about how you

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got started into it, and if this has been a lifetime, um, journey or if

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it started later in life, whatever.

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What, how, how did you get here today?

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Yeah.

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So for me it did start early on.

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I was.

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You know, I had some mystical experiences when I was about four

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or five years old, but I kind of put them outta my mind because my

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parents told me, you're making it up.

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It's just your imagination, you know?

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Right.

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But my real journey started around when I was 12 years old.

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My mother at that time had, was really searching for herself, and so she started

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telling me some of the things that she was learning about, spirituality guides,

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intuition, oh US lives, all the things.

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But I was 12.

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I was nearly a teenager.

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It's little, sounded a little strange to me.

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I wasn't sure about this, but I think I was curious.

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So when she asked if I wanted to have a session to learn about my

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angels and my intuition, I said yes.

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Mm-hmm.

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And during that session, which is the same thing I now do for my clients, um,

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I learned a technique to communicate with my angels, and I still didn't

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really expect anything to happen.

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I didn't know if this was even real.

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And I had in that moment an experience that I couldn't deny was not me.

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I felt, oh, I could sense that we live in two worlds.

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At one time, I could see the table and chairs in front of me in the

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material world, but I could also feel like I tapped into the spiritual

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connection and it felt just as real as, you know, the, the physical room.

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So that was sort of now what I would describe as a spiritual awakening.

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I didn't realize that at the time.

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Right.

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And that really set me on a path in my teenage years of just really searching,

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taking a lot of classes and reading a lot of books and learning how to, you

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know, develop my own gifts, knowing that I have a unique life purpose.

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And for me, you know, having a connection with my guides helped me to make a.

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Those decisions that are big turning points in our life.

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You know, I left my home country of New Zealand.

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I first moved to England, I then moved to the United States.

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All of those things that feel really scary and risky.

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Yeah.

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But I, you know, because I had that spiritual connection, I was able to,

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you know, do those things with trust.

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Wow.

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That's amazing.

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Yeah.

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Uh, to go through your teenage years like that.

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So I have a couple of questions about that.

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One.

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What about your friends?

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Did they think you were weird?

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Did you not have friends, or were you able to find people that.

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Thought that was cool, or how did that go?

Rev Karen:

Well, that's a great question.

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I was in the spiritual closet.

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I didn't tell anybody.

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Okay.

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I was doing this.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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The only person I told was a boyfriend and.

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I mean, he wasn't really interested himself, but he was fine for me to do it.

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And yeah.

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But other than that, I, at that time, I was really scared of anybody

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knowing about this stuff, I'm sure.

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Right?

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Yeah.

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And so that was a big thing.

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I had to heal within myself and now I'm on YouTube and talking about it all day long.

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Yeah.

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It's amazing how, you know, when you heal a block like that,

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it can really open some doors.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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And then so you had mystical experiences at four or five years old, and I know

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you have a child, and I'm sure you have other children in your life are,

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do you feel like you're more open to what they're saying, you know,

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to what their experiences might be?

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Yeah, and my son has always known that he's a soul and he's always

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known that he has guidance and when he was little, he would.

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Tell stories about past lives and, oh, just as a matter of fact conversation.

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Wow.

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I think, to be honest, I was a little too fascinated and wanting him to say

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things that he sometimes just didn't.

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Um, but I think that, you know, he has that foundation and a big.

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Kind of value for me and how I work with my clients and how I raise my

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son is, you know, you have your own unique life purpose and it's about

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getting in touch with your own hearts desires and making your own decisions.

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Yeah.

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Because so much of the way that we are raised in this society is everybody

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else telling you what to do, you know?

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Yeah.

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We lose touch with that in guidance.

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Exactly.

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Exactly.

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So speaking of getting in touch with our inner guidance, um,

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How does a person do that?

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How do you recommend you know, the listeners if they don't know,

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or if they don't really even know what Spirit guides are?

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Can you just do like a brief explanation or a long one?

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Either way.

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Yes.

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So basically you are energy, you are a soul with a body, not a body with a soul.

Rev Karen:

And so you, um, you have a unique purpose.

Rev Karen:

Your guides, you kind of have a contract with them, so to speak.

Rev Karen:

You attract these helpers before you are born.

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So you can, they can help you master the lessons that you've

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come to learn this lifetime.

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They've kind of graduated from planet Earth level.

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They don't need to come back here, but they're still mastering themselves

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by being a guide or a helper to you.

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But they just have a little more experience in some areas.

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So they.

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We live in two worlds at one time.

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We live in the physical world and the spiritual world.

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You are a spiritual being, having a physical experience, but your guides

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aren't really part of the physical world.

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They don't have a physical body, so the way to connect with them is

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through your own spiritual abilities.

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So it means that you need to be in touch with that and

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develop that within yourself.

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And a lot of us, I still struggle with this sometimes, right?

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A lot of us are way more in our head.

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Mm-hmm.

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We basically have two parts to our nature, the intellect and the feelings.

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Your feeling nature is the real you as a soul.

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And it's the part of you that is very sensitive and senses energy

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and feels things and knows things.

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You know?

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You can get premonitions.

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You can get hunches.

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But we're so used to being in our intellect that a lot of people talk

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themselves out of that don't trust it, think it's weird, wrong, right?

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And so the first step is to learn to pay attention to what's already there

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because it's not actually something new that you need to learn, right?

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It's.

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Already you as a being, right?

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Mm-hmm.

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So it's learning.

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What am I feeling?

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What am I sensing?

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What am I picking up?

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There's actually four spiritual gifts that we have, and a person will have

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one of those that's their primary.

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Oh.

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Okay.

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And that's one of the things I do in a consultation for people to help them to

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know which one is their primary gift.

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Oh, really?

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Okay.

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Vision.

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Yeah.

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So if you're visionary, like I am, I'm always getting a lot of pictures.

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I'm seeing things, I'm seeing people's faces that I need to

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contact or something like that.

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You know, if you're more clear audience or intuitive, it's hearing guidance.

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I'm prob you're probably higher in that one, I would guess.

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Um, words popping in your mind.

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You need to understand things.

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Prophetic people just know things without being told, and they're

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really sensing energies and knowing.

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Mm-hmm.

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And feeling type people are, you know, their feelings.

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They have those gut hunches and they're the ones that are really, really sensitive

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to feeling, you know, what everybody else is feeling in the environment.

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Right.

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Okay.

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So that's, wow.

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Through these avenues we have our own gifts too.

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But we need to sense and pick up that guidance and it will just kind

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of pop in your mind out of nowhere when your angels are contacting you.

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So, so you just said angels and you talked about spirit guides.

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Are they one in the same?

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Yeah, so I kind of use those words interchangeably, really.

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Okay.

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The idea is that these are master souls and you have a personal team.

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So in my work, I really help people with that personal team, and we're not

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talking about contacting Arch Angels or you know, gods or goddesses or

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anything like that, where I'm just really helping you with your personal team.

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So whether you decide to call them guides or angels or helpers,

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I don't think it really matters.

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Okay.

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But, okay.

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It's like you have those guides that are there for you.

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Okay.

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Are there things that, that they do help us with versus things

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that they can't help us with?

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You know, are there limitations on the guidance?

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There are some, you know, there's kind of this, these ethics that they work with.

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The big thing that they can really help us with is, They can see things

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that we can't see because they're not part of planet Earth Energy.

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It's like they have a bird's eye view on our life.

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So they can help us to be in the right place at the right time to do the things

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that are in alignment with your purpose.

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And you know, when I'm making decisions about things now, I'm often saying, okay,

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is this a high priority for my unique life purpose, or is it a medium priority?

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And if I get from my guidance, it's a medium or a low priority, it's

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usually I feel obligated to do it.

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Somebody else is telling me to do it, but it's not really in alignment.

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Okay?

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So as you start, you know, and I teach people how to ask direct questions, to

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speed up this process and get confirmation right away from your guides, you know?

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And as you work with that, you can start to see, okay, this

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is the roadmap for my life.

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These are my next steps.

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So the things they, oh, go ahead.

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Sorry.

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Go.

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Go ahead.

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I was gonna say, the things that they don't help us with is things,

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there's some things you wanna avoid, like, I think predicting

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the future is kind of dicey, right?

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Mm-hmm.

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And for some reason, psychics are supposed to predict the future, but

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the future can always change, right?

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Based on other people's free will.

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And they won't help, they won't interfere with another person's free will, right?

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So you wanna find out if that person's, you know, gonna date you or like that

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just doesn't, they just won't work with that kind of thing, and they

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really won't tell you what to do.

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So if you're saying, should I do this, tell me they won't

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make your decisions for you.

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What they're doing is they're giving that bigger picture guidance so that you

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can make the best decision that you can.

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So how would you ask a question if, if they're not gonna tell you what to

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do, is it going to be, what's gonna be the easiest outcome for this?

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You know, what should I do for my, my highest purpose?

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Or, , as opposed to an exact answer.

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. So it's the way that you phrase the question.

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Okay.

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So if you are asking their opinion, and then you can take

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it or leave it as an opinion.

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And it's really good to first decide what is it I really want?

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You know, I do in my life, I phrase a lot of questions based

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on my unique life purpose.

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But you can also ask, Hey, if you have a, a business goal, you

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want to get 10 new clients, or, um, a relationship goal, right?

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Like, I manifested a partner a few years ago, and so you say,

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this is what I really want.

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Then they can help, you know, what is the best first step toward that?

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That's going to be smooth, smooth.

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But the other thing is we're here to learn and grow in this lifetime.

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So your angels aren't gonna take all your problems away and make it easy for

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you because sometimes they're actually leading you to the growth that you need,

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the things that you need to heal in order to then manifest your true hearts desires.

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Mm-hmm.

Rev Karen:

You had mentioned earlier something about them helping you be at in

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the right place at the right time.

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So would you say they help orchestrate things like what we call coincidences?

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Yes, definitely.

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Okay.

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Yes, yes.

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And that's when a lot of people start coming to me is they're

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saying, I'm seeing, I'm having coincidences all the time.

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I keep seeing number sequences and having dreams like, it's like when we are ready

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for this spiritual path, It seems to go on turbocharge, like it's everywhere, right?

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Your angels wanna get your attention.

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Mm-hmm.

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Yeah.

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Mm-hmm.

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Um, but yes, there's so much help and backing that we have that's unseen.

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And so when you start to acknowledge that and trust it, it can open

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things up in amazing ways.

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Okay.

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Okay.

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Now, you've talked about life purpose a couple times, and or , are souls calling.

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Are those one and the same, and do they change over our lifetime

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or do we come to earth with just one thing, one primary goal.

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Do you think.

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Yeah.

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Uh, it's, so, it's a big topic and yes, we have a unique life purpose.

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There's actually lots of aspects to that.

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Okay.

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Um, and so this is what I help people with in my authentic and aligned program.

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And so we have, first of all, we have a unique spiritual vibration, and that is

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your, Essence, your uniqueness that you're here to express, and you can actually

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learn a statement that describes that.

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That's the energy that we sense in people and that we miss when they're not around.

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Okay?

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And that we have a mission.

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There is something that you're here to accomplish.

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It's that driving force.

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Why am I here?

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Right?

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What am I here to accomplish?

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And I feel like that will unfold over time.

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But what I teach people, the first step is to get in touch with your desires.

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Mm-hmm.

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And that sounds simple, but for a lot of people, it's really hard to do.

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Right.

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They don't know what they want.

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Yeah.

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Because there's so much programming from family, upbringing and

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society and whatever else that's saying, this is what you should do.

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Exactly.

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But what do you want to do?

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Yeah.

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Right.

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And when you start uncovering that and following it, even if it's messy and

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it's not perfect along the way, that is actually the path to your purpose, right?

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Some people think that their purpose is this elusive thing that they

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haven't found yet, but it's actually inside of us if we start to look

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within and and acknowledge it.

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Oh, right.

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That makes sense.

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And this is something that you can help people.

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Learn how to connect with their guides to, to find that, right.

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Yeah.

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So the guides can help help a person identify it.

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Is that what I'm hearing?

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Yes.

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So your guides can direct you to it.

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Your guides know what your purpose is, I suppose so and

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so a lot of times when, yeah.

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And so a lot of times when you're consulting with them, they will

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be answering based on that.

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Okay.

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Okay.

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Yeah.

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And everybody's purpose is unique, so this is why we, we need to have

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these helpers because you can't compare yourself to anybody else.

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You know, your path and purpose is unique and you have to do

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what feels right for you, right?

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, I meant to ask you this before we got on air, but um, have you written any books

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about this, or you have your courses and you do personal, , one-on-one

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work, that kind of stuff.

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Yeah.

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It's interesting that you say that because I think I'm getting some signs that I

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need to, I had an ebook a few years ago.

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It was co-written with somebody that you know, is not what I

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wanna put out there anymore.

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So it's time for.

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A refresher to, you know, to reach more people.

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But yes, I've put all of the, you know, I used before Covid, I used to travel

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all around the world teaching workshops.

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And I really have worked, understood what people's challenges can be

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with connecting with their angels.

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Like they're second guessing, they're not trusting.

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Right.

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You know, and I've put all of that experience in really simple tools.

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Um, and to my communicate with Angels course.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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I, I was thinking about that before the show because it's like,

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I haven't heard that she has a book, so I need to ask about that.

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Well, I'll know that's coming out.

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Thank you for following your hunch.

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And that's a great example though of how it works like.

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If I, there's a part of me that wants to put that on the shelf and not look at it.

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Right.

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Human nature.

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Right.

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But this is like the third or fourth time that somebody's mentioned that

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to me within a few weeks, Uhhuh.

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And previous to that, nobody said book to me at all.

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So it's like when, when things show up, they start showing up

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to get our attention, you know?

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Yeah.

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Yeah, that's right.

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Okay, , two-sided questions.

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So two answers I guess.

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But what do you wish people would stop doing?

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Like when it comes to our purpose or connecting with our guides, and what

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do you wish they would do instead?

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Interesting.

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Yeah.

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So I think that the main challenge that people have is that they're wanting

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their angels to tell them what to do.

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Mm-hmm.

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And, um, and that's kind of a religious concept.

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A lot of religious concepts permeate our society and we

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don't even realize we have them.

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Um, and it's like somebody else is, is my boss.

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Somebody else needs to tell me what to do.

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Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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And so, It's like really knowing that this, yes, I, I help people connect

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with your guides, but really it's more about you at the end of the day,

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trusting yourself and being aware of that spiritual part of you that

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is so suppressed in our society.

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You know, it's, we're starting to.

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Come back to the balance, but our society right now is way overly

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masculine, way overly intellectual.

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And the the more feminine, intuitive part of us is almost seen as weak and silly.

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But it's actually where your power lies, right?

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That's what's going to create your success, your abundance, your happiness

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is following that part of you.

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Mm-hmm.

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So when it comes to connecting with your angels, it's like, um, use that as an

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advisor and they are going to help you to.

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See possibilities that you can't see for yourself.

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They can see things that we can't see.

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They're stretching us sometimes, you know, sometimes I get an answer from

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my guides that I don't understand and I have to just kind of sit with it.

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And even, um, it might take a couple weeks to understand, okay, this is

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why, oh, they're directing me in that direction because there's a

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bigger picture reason for it that.

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I couldn't say initially.

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Right, right.

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Yeah.

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So sometimes think we might think we get the wrong answer or we get a crazy answer.

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And it's just because we don't know the whole story yet, right?

Rev Karen:

We don't Exactly.

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I mean, how many times we had that experience where in hindsight you

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see like something that seemed like a real challenge and you're a failure.

Rev Karen:

Yeah.

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In hindsight, you see, it was exactly what needed to happen.

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Yeah, I'm getting chills.

Rev Karen:

As I say that, that's another sign that your angels are around.

Rev Karen:

That's a really good one for people to know about is when you feel chills

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or tingling or goosebumps, that's your angels kind of giving you confirmation

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that you're on the right track or that there's truth Oh, occurring.

Rev Karen:

Yeah.

Rev Karen:

Interesting.

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Interesting.

Rev Karen:

, and you mentioned a lot of people seek you out when they start seeing like numbers

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repeating or, or different patterns.

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So I suppose that is the guides just really saying, listen,

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is that what's going on?

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Or, because they, they don't have any physical way to

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physically do anything, right?

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Like, they're not, not that they would shake us and say, wake up or

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anything like that, but, , so it, it has to be something that makes,

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makes us notice, is that right?

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Make us, makes us stand up and say, what is this all about?

Rev Karen:

Yeah, I think some people need that.

Rev Karen:

It's, it's like that awakening stage.

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You are learning to pay attention and acknowledge it and having your own

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experiences, because that's why when I had that experience connecting with

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my angels at 12 years old, that's why it stuck with me so strongly

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because it was my own experience.

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It wasn't just my mother telling me stuff that I thought was weird.

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It's like, oh.

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Okay, now I've experienced this and I can feel that it's true, you

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know, and that's the key for people.

Rev Karen:

So I think, you know, if it's just the mundane every day,

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you're not gonna pay attention.

Rev Karen:

But when I remember when I first moved into my apartment after getting divorced,

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it was a really big deal and a really big manifestation for me to, to do that.

Rev Karen:

And the first month or two, I lived in that apartment.

Rev Karen:

I saw pennies everywhere.

Rev Karen:

Mm.

Rev Karen:

Like there was just pennies in every room.

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And logically you think who is walking through this?

Rev Karen:

Nobody is walking through this apartment throwing pennies everywhere.

Rev Karen:

Yeah.

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So I realized that was my guides just really, you know, wanting

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to get my attention and to say, Hey, you're in the right track.

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You're right where you need to be.

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Cuz it was a scary thing at the time.

Rev Karen:

But you know, I got that information, you know?

Rev Karen:

Yeah.

Rev Karen:

Yeah.

Rev Karen:

Yeah, that, yeah, that's good Now, and now that you mentioned it, I can

Rev Karen:

remember times in my life seeing.

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Things repeated when I wasn't sure I was doing the right thing.

Rev Karen:

Yes.

Rev Karen:

So, yeah, that's good to know.

Rev Karen:

Yes.

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And then the next stage is then to actually start communicating.

Rev Karen:

So people are starting to connect, but they don't know

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how to interpret the messages.

Rev Karen:

Okay.

Rev Karen:

Right.

Rev Karen:

And so then, um, you know, I have a free minicourse that I have where you

Rev Karen:

can learn to hear a message from your angels and actually start to receive

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that communication directly rather than it being cryptic and confusing.

Rev Karen:

Like pennies on the floor.

Rev Karen:

When you say here, you mean it could be, visions or words or however we are.

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. Not necessarily word hearing it because you mentioned there's

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four spiritual gifts, right?

Rev Karen:

So it might not be actual words.

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Or Yeah.

Rev Karen:

Well everybody has all four.

Rev Karen:

Okay.

Rev Karen:

So in that course I just focus on hearing, cuz that's one.

Rev Karen:

Oh, okay.

Rev Karen:

Yeah, it is one that's easier to start with simply because we're used to

Rev Karen:

communicating with words with people.

Rev Karen:

Okay.

Rev Karen:

You know, so when you hear a word it can be a little quicker

Rev Karen:

and easier to pick up at first.

Rev Karen:

But yes, we definitely receive messages through all four of them.

Rev Karen:

And you have one that's your primary?

Rev Karen:

Yeah.

Rev Karen:

Okay.

Rev Karen:

That sounds, that sounds super interesting.

Rev Karen:

Where do they find that course at, if they're interested?

Rev Karen:

Um, yeah.

Rev Karen:

So my website is communicate with angels.com.

Rev Karen:

You'll find it on there and then, and there's also the slash Hear Your Angels.

Rev Karen:

Okay.

Rev Karen:

But it's right there on my website.

Rev Karen:

Communicate with angels.com.

Rev Karen:

Okay.

Rev Karen:

Hear your angels.

Rev Karen:

Okay.

Rev Karen:

I just had to ask that.

Rev Karen:

So, if you could let everyone know in the world, , you have

Rev Karen:

a message for everyone that.

Rev Karen:

Something we need to know, we need to start doing or whatever it is.

Rev Karen:

What would your message to the world be?

Rev Karen:

Hmm.

Rev Karen:

Yeah.

Rev Karen:

I think it's that you have a unique purpose, and I know we hear those

Rev Karen:

words, but if you really feel into that to know that you are

Rev Karen:

important, that your contribution is needed, there are people who.

Rev Karen:

Need what you have.

Rev Karen:

Right.

Rev Karen:

And if this doesn't have to be standing on stage or writing a book,

Rev Karen:

it can be as simple as the people that you interact with every day.

Rev Karen:

Right.

Rev Karen:

But knowing that.

Rev Karen:

You have a, a mission here to accomplish and something important to share?

Rev Karen:

I think that we have, you know, an epidemic of low self-esteem

Rev Karen:

in our world, you know?

Rev Karen:

And if people can just start to realize that you are special, you are unique,

Rev Karen:

your gifts are important in whatever way that you choose to share them, you know?

Rev Karen:

Nice.

Rev Karen:

I, I believe that as well.

Rev Karen:

I think you're right on.

Rev Karen:

So . So why don't you talk about your auth.

Rev Karen:

Is it authentic to aligned?

Rev Karen:

Is that what it's called?

Rev Karen:

Your course.

Rev Karen:

Yes, so it's called authentic and aligned and I have a training through an

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organization called The Way She College, and there are some amazing materials that

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I'm certified to present through that.

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And what I did was I pulled together the key, um, tools that a person needs to know

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to really understand their authentic self.

Rev Karen:

Right.

Rev Karen:

So just as I was saying, you're special, you're unique, but it's

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sometimes we don't know how we take for granted what we're good at.

Rev Karen:

So in that, the first part is knowing your authentic soul self, and that includes

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learning that spiritual mantra, your vibration that I talked about before.

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What your mission and purpose is, and then some other things that, the words kind

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of probably don't have a lot of meaning.

Rev Karen:

You don't know what it is, but it's like, what is your, we call it your policy.

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There's an energy that fuels you to do what you come to do.

Rev Karen:

So my first policy, for example, is strength.

Rev Karen:

Hmm.

Rev Karen:

So if I, I have, that's my inner pivot at the core.

Rev Karen:

If I lose my inner strength, I'm really not on a good place.

Rev Karen:

Right.

Rev Karen:

And so people have different ones.

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Um, You learn about, um, where you fit with opportunities.

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Are you the go-getter starter like I am with a lot of entrepreneurs of that?

Rev Karen:

Yeah.

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Or are you more a builder where you learn to refine things or A

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consolidator works with systems, so Wow.

Rev Karen:

There's all these kind of different aspects that people learn in the

Rev Karen:

course through PRI private sessions that I offer them, and we also have

Rev Karen:

group calls where you share with each other and then when, when you really

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understand and know that authentic self, then you can start aligning your work,

Rev Karen:

your relationships, everything that you're involved with in the material

Rev Karen:

world with your true, authentic self.

Rev Karen:

Mm.

Rev Karen:

And because what I started seeing over and over again is that people are looking

Rev Karen:

outside of themselves for answers.

Rev Karen:

They're really trying to find happiness and fulfillment, right?

Rev Karen:

But what they're doing is they're saying, okay, what career am I supposed

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to be doing that's gonna make me happy?

Rev Karen:

What relationships and friends can I have that are gonna make me happy?

Rev Karen:

And that.

Rev Karen:

All of that is important, but it's only half the equation and people are totally

Rev Karen:

missing the spiritual part of themselves.

Rev Karen:

And so you really get to learn who you are.

Rev Karen:

So then, you know, like the, I just finished this course about a month ago,

Rev Karen:

and there was about two or three women in there who were really looking for

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a new job, and they were interviewing.

Rev Karen:

And they said, you know, now that I've been through authentic and aligned, I

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can see these job opportunities come up and I can say that one just isn't for me.

Rev Karen:

And they're not gonna waste their time, right?

Rev Karen:

Because they know truly what they're good at, what they're gifted at,

Rev Karen:

what's gonna be fun for them.

Rev Karen:

And they can then, rather than going trying, so it's like we feel

Rev Karen:

like a square, pagan around hole.

Rev Karen:

So you're trying to move yourself and change yourself to fit the job.

Rev Karen:

Right.

Rev Karen:

Rather than going, this is me and I'm good with me.

Rev Karen:

I'm not gonna change cuz it's who I am.

Rev Karen:

So what is the job that's a match for me.

Rev Karen:

Hmm.

Rev Karen:

Right.

Rev Karen:

And we do that in relationships too.

Rev Karen:

I did that in my marriage.

Rev Karen:

I was changing myself to fit somebody else.

Rev Karen:

Right.

Rev Karen:

And that just will eat you up inside over time.

Rev Karen:

Yeah.

Rev Karen:

So this is what authentic and aligned helps people with.

Rev Karen:

And it's a process that you don't know, that you don't know, to really

Rev Karen:

find that authentic self self.

Rev Karen:

So then the things that you are involved in, in your material life then become

Rev Karen:

really happy and fulfilling and joyful.

Rev Karen:

And that at the end of the day is what we're seeking.

Rev Karen:

Yeah.

Rev Karen:

Exactly.

Rev Karen:

What we're seeking.

Rev Karen:

Mm-hmm.

Rev Karen:

So you, you don't even, A person doesn't even have to go down

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the wrong path to start with.

Rev Karen:

And change it time and time and time again.

Rev Karen:

Right.

Rev Karen:

They have a good idea what direction to go.

Rev Karen:

Yeah.

Rev Karen:

And it becomes like this hamster wheel that people do like, oh,

Rev Karen:

well that job didn't make me happy, so what else can I do?

Rev Karen:

Right.

Rev Karen:

Yeah.

Rev Karen:

And they're really, again, they're looking out there and if you know your authentic

Rev Karen:

self and those gifts and where you belong, where you fit your niche in life.

Rev Karen:

You know, then you can just seek that opportunity.

Rev Karen:

That's a good match for you, right?

Rev Karen:

Right.

Rev Karen:

When you're in your niche in life, there's this natural growth and expansion and flow

Rev Karen:

that happens and life becomes fun again.

Rev Karen:

Mm-hmm.

Rev Karen:

You know, a lot of people go it, there's a cliche now of saying, I'm

Rev Karen:

s I love what I'm doing so much.

Rev Karen:

I can't wait to get up outta bed in the morning.

Rev Karen:

And that's what people are actually looking for when they tell me

Rev Karen:

they want their life purpose.

Rev Karen:

Yeah.

Rev Karen:

That's not your purpose, that's your niche.

Rev Karen:

Yeah.

Rev Karen:

It's that place where you fit so that you can express your

Rev Karen:

purpose and your uniqueness.

Rev Karen:

Yeah.

Rev Karen:

I was reading, , during the Great resignation of the last couple of

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years, all these people that have resigned and either have new jobs

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or whatever they have, they're.

Rev Karen:

No more happy, or perhaps a large percentage of them are,

Rev Karen:

um, less happy than they were prior to the great resignation.

Rev Karen:

So yeah, we need to know what we're looking for before we actually do it.

Rev Karen:

I guess I, I completely resonate with that.

Rev Karen:

Yes.

Rev Karen:

It's that inner work.

Rev Karen:

Mm-hmm.

Rev Karen:

That self understanding.

Rev Karen:

Right.

Rev Karen:

And I've been lucky enough to learn tools that really help a person to do that.

Rev Karen:

So by going through this process, you know, people come out the other

Rev Karen:

side and go, okay, now I know.

Rev Karen:

And there's just that this calm that was on these women's faces when

Rev Karen:

they had graduated from the course.

Rev Karen:

Um, because they know who they are.

Rev Karen:

Yeah.

Rev Karen:

And they're not willing to prove anything anymore.

Rev Karen:

Right.

Rev Karen:

Right.

Rev Karen:

Right.

Rev Karen:

Well that's awesome.

Rev Karen:

I thank you for sharing that and thank you for being here.

Rev Karen:

Tell us where to find that course at.

Rev Karen:

Is that also on your website so you, yeah, so you can go to communicate

Rev Karen:

with angels.com/authentic and aligned.

Rev Karen:

Um, and there's a wait list on there right now, but I'm going

Rev Karen:

to be opening up enrollment soon.

Rev Karen:

So it's a really good time to get on the wait list so that you can get the

Rev Karen:

best, you know, best pricing and the best deals on there if it resonates.

Rev Karen:

Fantastic.

Rev Karen:

All right.

Rev Karen:

Communicate with angels.

Rev Karen:

Well, thank you Melissa Kitto.

Rev Karen:

It's been a pleasure.

Rev Karen:

I love learning about some of this, and, I, I will look forward perhaps talking

Rev Karen:

at a deeper level someday about some of the, more of the soul's purpose and such.

Rev Karen:

But anyhow, thanks for being here and I just wanna say goodbye to the

Rev Karen:

listeners and we will connect again soon.

Rev Karen:

Thanks for having me.

Rev Karen:

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