Embrace Discomfort to Transform Your Life | Neurostimulation Podcast ft. Dr. Axa Yox

In this compelling episode of The Neurostimulation Podcast, we are joined by the inspiring Dr. Axa Yox, a microbiologist and geneticist turned personal transformation expert. Dr. Yox dives deep into her unique approach to personal development, blending rigorous science with human potential. She discusses key concepts from her groundbreaking book, 'Stop Calling It Comfort Zone,' highlighting the importance of rewiring our thoughts and perspectives to foster positive change. Through insightful discussions, Dr. Yox provides practical strategies on how to start your day with positive intentions, understand the biochemical shifts in our bodies, and embrace discomfort as a catalyst for growth. This episode is a treasure trove of wisdom for anyone looking to optimize their health and wellness. Don't miss out on this transformative conversation!

Dr. Yox's book Stop Calling it Comfort Zone https://a.co/d/cO8YUhk

00:00 Welcome to The Neurostimulation Podcast

00:47 Introducing Dr. Axa Yox

01:45 The Power of Thoughts and Rewiring the Mind

06:40 Understanding Biochemical Shifts and Emotional Control

12:00 The Importance of Incremental Changes

28:36 Redefining Comfort Zones and Achieving Goals

35:31 The Role of Failure and Progress

46:36 The Compounding Effect of Positive Actions

47:52 The Secret to Inner Balance

48:15 Understanding Control and Expectations

48:54 The Power of Positive Emotions

49:04 Embracing Challenges and Hormetic Stress

51:52 Rewiring Your Brain for Positive Habits

53:18 The Importance of Consistency

01:07:23 The Role of Dopamine and Serotonin

01:09:15 Practical Techniques for Overcoming Dark Times

01:20:34 Turning Life's Unfairness into an Advantage

01:28:18 Conclusion and Final Thoughts

Welcome to The Neurostimulation Podcast where we explore fascinating

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aspects of neuroscience and

clinical neurostimulation in order

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to optimize health and wellness.

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Today, we have a truly

exceptional guest joining us.

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I've really been excited

about today's episode.

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This is someone who seamlessly

blends the worlds of science

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and personal development.

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Please welcome Dr.

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Axa Yox, a microbiologist and

geneticist, now a leading voice

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in personal transformation.

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She's the author of the groundbreaking

book, Stop Calling It Comfort Zone,

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where she challenges conventional

wisdom and empowers readers to embrace

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discomfort as a catalyst for growth.

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Dr.

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Yox, welcome to the podcast.

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Axa: Thanks for hosting

me and happy new year.

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Let's make it as productive

as it's possible.

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Mike: Yeah, happy new year to you as well.

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Absolutely.

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I'm incredibly excited to have you here.

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You know, your unique perspective, which

is rooted in both rigorous science and

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a passion for human potential, perfectly

aligns with the mission of this podcast.

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So I know that our viewers and listeners

are eager to learn how they can apply

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your insights to enhance their lives.

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Axa: Yes, and everything starts from the

story that we keep reminding ourselves

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every single day, because how do we start

our day like we put the music on and we

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listen to the music, but we forget that

our thoughts are kind of the music that we

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keep replaying all over again and again.

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And unlike the music, which plays.

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On our radio or the cell phone,

which somehow we can unmute.

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If we decide that we don't like it, or

we can change the channel, but we forget

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that we need to rewire the music and the

thoughts that we have in our head as well.

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So, if you have, if you want to change

the story, if you want to have different

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results, you need to change the

thoughts that you start your day with.

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If you have the negative thoughts,

you will have the negative results,

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because that's how that's the lens

that you put on in the morning.

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And that's how you project the world.

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That's where what you see, because

let's say if you are thirsty

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and wherever you watch, you are

searching for the water, right?

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You will not search for something else.

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The same is with the thoughts.

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If they are negative, that's what

you will not attract because people

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confuse that the thoughts attract.

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No, it's just only, that's what you see

because everything exists in the world.

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It's not that the negative doesn't

exist when you just constantly

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think about the positive thoughts.

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Negative positive, it's how you

pursue the things, because something

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which is positive for me might

be completely negative for you.

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So the world exists out

of our perspective, like.

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just exist, whatever you focus on, that's

what will multiply in your daily life.

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And that's where you have to change

and remind yourself constantly with

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the crisis isn't, do I do it correct?

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Do I hit the target that I want?

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If I want happier life, then you have to

fill your day with the happy thoughts.

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because that's what multiplies

the energy within you.

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And then you just project it

out and you attract more people.

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That's how it works.

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Mike: I love it.

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I really appreciate your explanation.

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It makes so much sense.

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It really resonates.

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I think that in particular, the

idea of starting the day, you know,

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with very positive, intentional

kinds of thoughts that lead to the

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similar kinds of intentional actions.

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Because I've long been a proponent,

and I try to practice this myself, you

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know, and I try to suggest this for

friends, family members, and patients

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is that, you know, to really try and

focus on the day and look at the day

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as you know, a time when we wake up

and we have really all this potential,

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you know, on the one hand, there's a

lot that we try and pack into a day.

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But on the other hand, if we can try

and carve out even just a few minutes

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of silence, perhaps in the morning, um,

to Just allow ourselves to think about

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these things that you're explaining,

have some positive intention before,

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you know, we start checking our

phone and then thinking about all

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of the things that we have to do.

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I think it just sets us up for more peace

and productivity during the day, you

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know, maybe if you don't mind, can you,

um, explain a little bit more about that?

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Continue on with the thoughts around

what you're just explaining in terms of

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the positive intentionality, um, that

you're advocating to start the day.

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Axa: The words that we use will shape

where you will be during the day and

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every single day is the part of your life.

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So if you have negative vocabulary

and you keep repeating yourself,

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you associate the things or the

events with particular emotions.

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If you call the zone where you are

unhappy, Unhealthy and unfulfilled to

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be a comfort zone, you signal to your

brain that being unhappy, unhealthy

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and unfulfilled is comfortable for you.

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Whatever you have in that zone, you

have on the list as you accepted

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the reality to be fine for you.

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Unless you change how you see the

comfort for yourself, you will never

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quit because you will start very high,

ready to change anything, but then you

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will slide back to your comfort zone.

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Why?

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Because human body has three levels.

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Where we are controlled and we

are controlled by our emotions.

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So the first lab, because whenever,

you know, the levels that our system,

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the human body is a closed system.

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So whatever you, it's kind of the

triangle, whatever you put in, it will

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affect and you will have the outcome.

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So we've seen that triangle.

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What is the most important is

not, is not only what you put in.

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In you have the outcome is the state,

which is the top of the triangle, because

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if you were, you have been stressed for

particular period of time, then even

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if you start the positive emotions in

the morning, it will not really change.

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That's why people slide right

back in their comfort zone

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because they think that.

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Oh, I will have some nice music

or I will watch some nice video.

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I will have some nice talk with

a friend and things will change.

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No, we have three levels of our

biochemical shift that happens.

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So the first is the hormones and it is

designed by the nature to keep us safe.

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So there is no one can control the

production of the hormones because

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that's the first reaction of our

emotion for any outside, uh, trigger,

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whether it's emotion, whether

it's three, how you pursue that.

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If there is a high noise and you, in

your mind, you associated the high noise

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with the threat, you would be threatened.

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If you think that the high,

Temperature is harmful for you.

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You will start the day with,

Oh, it's so hot outside.

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The other person would

be like, it's so hot.

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I can go to the ocean.

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You see the same temperature.

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It's how you see that's the, the peak,

that's the state where you are and how you

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associate the second level is the reaction

based on how your hormones shift, and it

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is, um, triggered by the, um, nail roll.

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Neuro mediators because your

brain assess the situation

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and it gives you the reaction.

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This is.

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What you feel the break for the pattern

starts between the second and the

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third level, even if you associate

the Stimuli or anything that happened

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during the day or at that particular

moment With the negative emotions and

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you triggered all this spiral of the

negative Consequences you remember all the

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negative things that happen to you like

the The obstacles, whatever you are going

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through, every person is very individual.

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So you have still the option to break

the pattern between the second level,

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which is the first reaction that your

body reacts like, Oh, that's, that's bad.

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That's, you have to get out of

there or, uh, people can harm

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you and start the production of

beneficial, uh, neurotransmitters.

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Okay.

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Assess the situation.

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It's not very positive at this moment,

but I have the power to take it over

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and change it, change how I see it,

because that's the interesting word that

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I learned lately, and it changed how I

see everything, and it was very powerful.

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Very good for me because I used to, uh,

say the word control, control, control.

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We are all about think about the things

that you can control things about the

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things that you cannot control, right?

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Even the quad comes with the word,

which gives you this false impression

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that you can control anything.

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And then you falsely believe that.

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Oh, if I can control something,

then I can control something else.

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There is nothing that we can control.

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Nothing, not even our emotions.

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We can influence them.

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So when you change this one tiny word.

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From control to influence, then you level

up to the second level, and then you are

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working between the second and the third.

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Okay, that's the habitual emotional

response from my body because I was Living

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in that habitual emotions, and that's

the trigger that your body gives because

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you build that habit over the decades.

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You cannot break it in one day.

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No one can that let's remember that

if you go to one seminar and you learn

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all the possible techniques still, it's

not going to happen in one day that

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you will break your, uh, old habits.

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Why?

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If you, uh, had the meal yesterday.

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Are you going to eat today?

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Are you going to eat tomorrow?

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Are you going to eat one week later?

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The same is with the motivation.

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You cannot motivate yourself, change

the thoughts, be very positive.

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And then within the months, uh, it's fine.

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You're still there.

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No, you have to constantly remind

yourself and check the music

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that you play in your head.

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Is it shifting slightly

towards the, again, the.

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Old habits, which were

built for over decades.

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Let's don't, don't never underestimate

the compounding effect that your

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negative thoughts have in your body.

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The same supposed to be

for the positive emotions.

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If you just thought the positive thing

today, it didn't compound enough, not

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only to cover all the effect that you had.

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built for over decades.

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The secret and the key here is not only

to, um, to have more, uh, beneficial and,

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uh, productive and positive thoughts.

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It's also to remove the negative.

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Because the negative already has

the base is the is solid ground

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that you created over the decades

and even tiny drop that goes to the

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negative, it compounds faster than if

you add 10 drops to the positivity.

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Let's call it base tank, whatever you

call it, because remember, whatever you

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experience during the day that has the

potential to compound over the time.

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So, the one drop in the

negative, it still compounds.

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We need, consequently, Stop eating

our negative thoughts together with

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multiplying the positive thoughts.

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That's where you are between

the second and the third layer.

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That's where the magic happens.

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Only when you Break.

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If you stay on the second layer, if

you stay between the first and the

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second, like the natural emotions,

they trigger the shift in your

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biochemistry, which no one can influence.

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And the second, which is your habitual

emotions, which trigger this, the

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entire spiral that you just go the

rabbit hole down the rabbit hole.

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You will just multiply and

compound from what you already had.

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You have to level up from the second

and the third, and that's where the

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break of the pattern can happen.

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Mike: Yeah, no, that's fascinating.

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Thanks so much for explaining that.

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I really like this notion of.

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The importance of the words because

words without our knowing the words can

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really cause us to, you know, shift one

way or another in terms of our emotions.

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And I really appreciate the distinction

that you emphasize between control

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and influence, you know, because

I think I really agree with that.

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I think the influence word is

much more healthy and it aligns.

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I can see why you chose that

because it really aligns well with

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the model that you've developed

and that you're describing.

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So, maybe, if you don't mind, can you

explain a little bit more about, um,

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Oh, the other thing that I was just

going to point out as well that I really

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appreciated is this notion that you just,

just there described at the end about how,

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you know, the, the, you know, for every,

say, one drop of energy going in, You know

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to the negative emotions that are a lot of

our automatic thoughts are kind of geared

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towards Um that we have to put in that

extra say 10 drops towards the positive

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Thoughts to counteract that, you know,

that really makes sense in terms of what

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we know about how humans are kind of wired

In order to, you know, there's this notion

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of, as you know, that the harm aversion,

you know, in terms of our evolution, you

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know, we're wired to be more, uh, sort

of alert for, for, um, potential dangers.

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And so we're sort of more biased towards

defaulting to, uh, you know, a harm,

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harm, aversion kind of stance in terms

of the potential threat that exists.

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Right.

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And so I think that

there's an evolutionary.

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Um, in terms of how our, our

neurobiology is, is wired.

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There's an evolutionary reason why a

lot of our negative thoughts seem to be.

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kind of the baseline, you know,

or the default setting, and even

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more reason why we have to be very

intentional about positive thoughts.

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Not in a, not in an artificial or sort

of Pollyanna ish way, but, you know, in

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a way to sort of have a healthy appraisal

of what our environment actually entails

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in terms of threat versus opportunity

and how that all plays into the way

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that we can influence, not control,

influence our emotional state and guide

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us more in towards the positive emotion.

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Um, so maybe if you don't mind

explaining, I love the, um, the

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imagery and the model that you've

developed and that you're explaining.

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Would you, um, Would you mind explaining

a little bit more about the levels in

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terms of the second and third level?

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Would that make sense at this

point to elaborate on that?

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Axa: Yes, absolutely.

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Let's, let's try with, because people

are very focused on finances, so

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it would be very easy to explain.

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Let's say over the decade with

adding once a dime per day, you

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came to compound it to one million.

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You have one million in your,

on your deposit for the negative

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emotions or the negative reaction

for whatever happens in your life.

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And you'll start to create

this positivity, a balance, and

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you'll start again with one dime.

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So if you add one dime to already existing

1 million, the compounding for the next

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one second day, it's higher than the

compounding of, even if you add 10 dimes

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on the positive deposit, you will still

have the next day less than the negative.

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That's why it's very essential to stay

And never go down, never level down to

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be between the first and the second line,

because that's where your old limiting

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beliefs and the habits are formed.

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You reinforce them.

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You just feed the negativity without

even realizing, because, um, you

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need to level up and realize.

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Where is the influence that

you can, uh, you can be, be

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present, be focused every second.

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I know in the very beginning, it

could be exhausting, but if you are

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up to change your life, then It takes

time, the same, it took time for

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decades to create a negative emotion.

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You need now, uh, more energy to

break the old limiting beliefs.

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But the difference here is that you do

cautiously and this is where the power is.

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Because if you do something

unconsciously, there is no power,

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it's control, it's, it's influenced.

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You But the cautious is stronger.

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That's why humans are dominating

special on the planet because we use

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our cautious to completely transform

everything in the environment.

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The same you can do for your life.

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Every time when you have any thought,

thought is the energy when you

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create the energy, the, the balance

shifts towards that, whether we

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want, or we don't any emotion trigger

the shift in our biochemistry.

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And the key is that normally people

think, oh, okay, I thought the negative

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thought and the next second, I will

shift it to seeing the positive

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and then everything will be fine.

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Completely transformed in my life.

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It's not exactly the way as it is.

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As I said, I said, the life,

the cycle is the close triangle.

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So the state, which is at the peak, if you

keep feeding the negative thought, it's

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not going to change your biochemistry.

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Doesn't change us only

simply in one second.

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I decided to change it

and then it will shift.

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No, your body's.

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still keeps producing the biochemistry

responsible for the negative thought

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that you had, and your body state

starts to shift towards that.

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So now, if you want to transform,

you don't only have to bring it back.

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Back to the initial, um, zero

point, but also you have to

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shift it towards the positive.

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And that's what you can practice

every single day in the morning.

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Decide what is the outcome

that you want and try to.

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Eliminate the negative

thoughts at least for 10%.

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That's where the compounding

starts because we always see the

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bigger picture and we think that

we can approach it in one day.

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No one can.

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Even when you start to lose the weight,

you start to lose the weight with

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one pound a day, unless you want to

really, uh, completely ruin your health.

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The same is with the positive emotions.

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If you screwed up one day and you

had really very bad day, that's okay.

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We're all humans.

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We're living the every single day

with all the noise and all the

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stress that exists in the world.

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Um, it can happen that some days

could be worse than the other one.

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But what is different that adding step

by step the positive thoughts And start

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to compound the positive in three, four,

six months, only then you will start

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to feel the difference because people

normally they do meditation for one month.

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Nothing changes.

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So they are like, it doesn't work for me.

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No, he's not that it doesn't work for you.

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The, the learning curve, you're just on

the learning curve because you learned.

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Let's say you learn the meditation

from the professional, right?

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But you learn their way.

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Now you have to transform the lessons

that you learned and find your way.

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So the beginning three, four

months, it's you are on the

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learning curve and your body is.

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Is not sure if you are

going to continue as well.

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You still have the already the base,

which was built over the decade.

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You are whenever you try to

do something new, you are.

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Between the first and the second layer,

anything new, because you just build

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a new, uh, um, uh, uh, the, the habit,

so you establish the base and then your

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body has to understand, is it beneficial

for me and your body is confused.

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Is it beneficial for me?

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And if you keep telling, let's

say you want to make meditation,

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uh, the, the process, like the

habit for the daily life, right?

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So you start the, uh, meditation.

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It's very new for you.

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So you establish the link between

the first and the second layer,

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and you keep reminding yourself,

Oh, it doesn't work for me.

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It doesn't work for me.

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So the melody that you play in your head.

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That's what your brain

will link meditation to.

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Oh, it doesn't work for me.

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So every time when you start to

meditate and that's the emotion

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you feel like you start to breathe.

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And you keep reminding yourself,

it doesn't work for me.

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So your brain will write over the

meditation, the story that you tell

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meditation doesn't work for me.

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Breathing doesn't work for me.

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And then when you are in stress

and somebody advise you, uh, do the

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breath, uh, deep breathing, you would

be like, okay, but the brain, which

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is below your thoughts that you are,

you are trying to overwrite already

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have the story that you said before.

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So it's it hops in immediately in

one second between the first and the

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second layer, and you are stuck there.

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You need to get out of that layer.

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The magic transformation happens.

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Only between the second layer and the

third, and this is cautious when you

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cautionally guard every single thought

and you realize, is it beneficial for me?

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Can I influence what is the outcome if

the outcome is something that you can

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influence with the particular process

or adding any, um, Um, new habit or

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just following, um, the new patterns.

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That's when you rewire your brain.

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And another thing is when, if you have

some, uh, let's say you think about the,

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the, uh, the meditation, all the links

that you created around the meditation,

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they are not only about the meditation.

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They are also linked to everything

which you link the meditation to words.

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So, if you have meditation is about the

silence and about not thinking or anything

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that you already have in your brain.

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Linked to silence, they come up

as they are activated as well.

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That's why you have all this multi layer

functional pattern which activates the

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parts of your brain you were not aware of.

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And then you start to feel the

emotions which are new for you.

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Uh, and, uh, you don't know how to react,

but practice brings the awareness and

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it keeps just, uh, rewiring your brain.

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And the rewiring happens only

when you just unlink everything

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that already was not, uh, serving

you and you create the new ones.

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Which serve you keep going.

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It happens through the time.

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The component effect is on not

only for the material things is

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for our emotions as well, because

the biochemistry is material.

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Don't forget that biochemistry is real.

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We produce the biomolecules that affect

how we feel, how we act and how we.

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Mike: Yeah, no, I really appreciate that.

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Thanks.

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Thanks for explaining that.

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I love this notion of the incremental,

like in going from the first level to

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the second level, the importance of the

incremental changes, you know, especially

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at this time of the year with so many

people making New Year's resolutions.

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I think that often, as you say, you

know, people encounter these barriers to

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making healthy changes in their day to

day living, partly because they probably.

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overestimate the degree to which that

they would be able to make changes.

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And maybe they don't give

themselves enough space to make

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these small incremental changes.

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Maybe they try to change too much all at

once, and then they feel disappointment.

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And as you say, you know, they're

experiencing exactly what you're

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explaining and having that

difficulty in getting from the

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first level to the second level.

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Um, you know, it makes me think that

in your book, Stop Calling It Comfort

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Zone, I was really impressed that

you're challenging conventional thinking

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in many ways about comfort zones.

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So would you mind explaining how

does stepping outside of our comfort,

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our comfort zones, how does that

actually benefit, you know, brains

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and overall well being in line with

the model that you're explaining?

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Axa: It's more about To change

how you see the comfort zone.

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So it's not about stepping out of

the comfort zone because if you keep

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associating where you are and you are

unhappy to be a comfort for you, you will

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sabotage yourself because your brain reads

that that's the level that you want to be.

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That's your comfort zone.

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You, uh, but whenever you flip

and you see being unhappy, Be

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to be uncomfortable for you.

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That's when you will

quit your comfort zone.

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Not if you keep calling being

unhappy is comfortable for me.

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When you change the lens, how you see

the world, that's how you will continue.

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Being unhappy is uncomfortable for me.

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That's when you will quit being

unhealthy is uncomfortable for me.

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That's when you will start eating

healthy, doing not fulfilling,

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living, not fulfilled life.

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It's uncomfortable.

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I'm not doing the progress, but if

doing not progress is comfortable

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for you, you'll slide right back

in one month, because that's the

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difference between when you leave.

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On the first and the second level

is the nature designed level to

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protect you, to keep you safe.

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The nature didn't design us to be happy.

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That's a very well set a phrase yet.

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The difference is that the nature

didn't design us as well to live.

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This long, the nature didn't design us to

be unhappy because somebody didn't like

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our social post or the picture or somebody

didn't call me back, didn't text me back.

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I did.

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I don't have a Ferrari.

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I don't have now.

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Nature didn't create us to react

to the external world when it's not

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threatening to kill us as the We will die.

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That's where the, uh, you can change

when you change how you react, not how

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you react, because if it is negative,

you have to react the negative, but

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the intensity, if it's not going to be

harmful for you, don't react like it's

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the end of the world, react accordingly.

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And then you can change and, uh, make the.

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What you associate the comfort with the

things which are beneficial for you.

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Otherwise, you will start and you

will end your year the same year

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with the same list of the goals.

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The resolution doesn't work.

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Why?

433

Because.

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You and, uh, correct me if I'm wrong

when you have the goal, but you keep

435

reminding and, and you are stuck with

your excuses, what shaped your destiny?

436

Is it the goal or is the excuse?

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So if you have the goal as a

focus, you will achieve the goal.

438

If you have the excuse that blocks your

path to achieve the goal, the excuse

439

shift your destiny, not the goal, because

let's say you want to lose the weight.

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That's the goal.

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But what do you keep what the melody

do you keep reminding yourself?

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Oh, the gym doesn't work.

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The diet doesn't work.

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Um, I tried everything.

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It didn't work.

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So that that's not the goal that's

the excuse and that's You have

447

to have the lens for everything.

448

If you want to see the progress, you need

to change how you see the progress, not

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how you see the path towards the progress,

because the path might be very long.

450

So instead of having to do list.

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You have to have also to complete

the list because we start our

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day with the to do list, but we

forget one thing on our to do list.

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We have the goals, which

cannot be completed in a

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particular period of the time.

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Right?

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And then we transfer the same

list over and over and then.

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Your brain doesn't read.

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Oh, okay.

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I still need your brain reads.

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I still need to do the

same then it doesn't work.

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So you rewire already your to do

list as impossible to achieve.

462

You need to chunk your, uh, bigger

picture into the smaller pictures.

463

And together with the to do list, you

need to have to complete the list.

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Then when you will make the progress,

because if you are busy to do the

465

things you are just busy to do

the things there is no relation

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relation between being busy and being

productive, but to complete the list.

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It keeps reminding you.

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Oh, I don't do.

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I don't have to do.

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I have to complete and

then your brain reads the.

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The action differently because

then it will give you perspective.

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No, you don't need to do.

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You need to complete.

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Please complete it.

475

Then you will set different

goal and you will realize that.

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To complete this, that task might

take longer and the next day when you

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see the same task on your list, you

are like, yes, I need to complete.

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That's why it takes longer.

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But to do your brain

reads, it doesn't work.

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And then you just keep in this loop of.

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Not realizing why your list doesn't

change from where, uh, from year to

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year, from year to year, because you

have the excuses which you focus on

483

and they shape your destiny, not your

goal shifted, shift, how you see the

484

progress, how do you see the failure?

485

Many people say, okay, what if I fail?

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If you see the failure trying and not

hitting the target, you will fail all

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the time because first of all, you

are the person who set the target.

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I didn't set the target for yourself.

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So you can, you can put

the bar a bit lower.

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And exactly as you said, when you

don't over estimate what you can

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do, we've seen, uh, let's say one

month particular period of the time.

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Don't overestimate and

don't underestimate.

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Make the goals to be more realistic,

set the bar correctly, hit the goal.

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Not below your potential, because then

you will never grow, but not higher.

495

Because if you miss the target all the

time, you will discourage yourself.

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It's obvious.

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We are all humans.

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Let's don't forget the

progress people who progressed.

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It's not that they, they were lucky

or they did something different.

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They just set the realistic goals.

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And once you hit the goal,

then it gives you this target.

502

Perspective.

503

Oh, I can.

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I can.

505

I can.

506

And then you just keep going.

507

So make that and shift

how you see the filler.

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For me, the filler was never hit

the goal and not hitting the goal.

509

It was not doing anything.

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That's the filler for me because

I find to be embarrassed.

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I tried.

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I didn't, it didn't work.

513

It didn't work.

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It didn't work for me because at

that particular period of my life,

515

I didn't have some skill, but now

the filler is the sometimes is

516

the best thing that you can do.

517

Why?

518

Because it draws the boundaries and

the limits where and your potential.

519

experience and where you

have to extend your skills.

520

So what can be done in some

cases you draw the, the border,

521

which you shall never cross.

522

So the failure can have

different, um, tonality as well.

523

Sometimes it's yes, where you, You have

the option to go further, to grow, to

524

progress better and yeah, and in some

cases, oh, okay, here is the limit.

525

I cannot cross it.

526

So, uh, see the world a bit differently.

527

From different angle, because even the

six and nine from different angles,

528

they have very different experience

for people who see the number.

529

The same is for us.

530

If you see the failure and the

comfort as something which is

531

okay, that you don't benefit.

532

You will stay in your comfort

zone and never progress.

533

Just change it.

534

Mike: Mm hmm.

535

Yeah, no, it's so interesting.

536

I mean, there's so much there.

537

And a few points that

resonate for me really is the

538

importance of the definitions.

539

You know, one of my best English teachers

in school was really always emphasizing

540

the importance of definitions, right?

541

And so, By, you know, your focus on

reframing the definition of comfort zone.

542

I think it's very important.

543

You know, I see a lot of

people in practice, and I

544

think it's really important.

545

Probably a universal phenomenon that,

um, there are reasons why unconsciously,

546

I think most people deal with a lot of

feelings like guilt and shame, probably

547

from, because, you know, as kids, we

were all very vulnerable and helpless

548

and, um, Frankly, you know, not very

good at anything, you know, and and that

549

brought a lot of emotional baggage that

we still carry around, you know, so I

550

think a lot of people probably struggle

unconsciously with feelings like guilt

551

and shame and so then they maybe feel

like what their comfort zone is, you

552

know, is, is that they don't deserve.

553

To be happier, they

don't deserve to succeed.

554

And so maybe they have a tendency

to self sabotage and give up on

555

their dreams and give up on their

goals prematurely, you know, or set

556

the bar too high in an unconscious

sort of self sabotaging kind of way.

557

So it strikes me that, you

know, your emphasis on.

558

the reframing and, and really thinking

carefully about how a person is defining

559

their own concept of comfort zone,

you know, taking ownership of that.

560

And then, as you're explaining, being

able to influence these things in a

561

healthy way, in an incremental way.

562

And also using the importance of the

challenges that people are facing

563

from day to day, not, not as something

that reinforces an unhealthy notion

564

of, oh, I don't deserve this or

that because of these unconscious

565

feelings of guilt and shame.

566

That are help that are sort of pulling

us down and preventing us from achieving

567

our dreams and goals, but really helping

us to get to the point where, as you

568

say, you're, you're, you're, you're

transcending this 1st and 2nd level and

569

getting up to the 2nd and 3rd level of

your model, which is really what sounds

570

to me like we're all the magic happens

once you get that momentum in terms

571

of your incremental improvement and

your daily habits and your, you know,

572

Hopefully being able to reframe and,

you know, kind of build yourself a more

573

of a healthy and realistic definition

of comfort zone or what your goals and

574

aspirations are, then that momentum should

start to, instead of the negative kind

575

of downward spiral, then it should start,

you know, going in the opposite direction,

576

more of a virtuous positive cycle.

577

Axa: And I like that you

tapped back to our childhood.

578

So, um.

579

That we were kind of, uh, trying

and failing and, but still.

580

Even in our childhood, when

we started to work, right?

581

You failed many times.

582

You failed to write, you failed to do

any, uh, math or biology, chem, anything.

583

You failed.

584

But we kept going.

585

Why?

586

Because we were conditioned

that we have to.

587

So whatever is have to, you did.

588

What does it show that if you have

the list for, Oh, I have to do that.

589

And it's possible to achieve.

590

It's not only what you have to do.

591

Because when you go to the school, no

one tells you, Oh, it's possible that

592

you will never learn to, uh, write.

593

It's possible you will

never learn to read, right?

594

When you go to school, it's unconditional

preposition that you will learn to

595

read, you will learn to, uh, write.

596

So you already have the list.

597

What?

598

To expect and, uh, no one tells you

that when you go to school, no one tells

599

you, you are going to write perfectly.

600

No, they tell you, you are going to

write, you are going to read perfectly.

601

No, that's why there is a great

expectations when they are met.

602

Then you are like, yeah, they, they

promised, uh, the, the promise, uh,

603

happened, but no one promised you

and the expectation that you have

604

over the failure and the trying.

605

And that's where your

conditioning started.

606

When you were a child, because what

you hear from your environment, this is

607

how you shape the vision of the world.

608

If you grow up in the environment

where trying, failing, and then

609

they would be like, stop it.

610

Don't do it.

611

When you, uh, transition to your adult

life, that's how you will see the

612

failure because top, it didn't work

first time, second time, just stop it.

613

That's not for you.

614

But if you saw the environment where

you grew up and you were conditioned,

615

no, it's the lesson you have to learn.

616

You have to progress.

617

You have to move at anything, which when,

wherever you have the progress Where your

618

expectation and the efforts that you,

uh, spend to hit that target, they meet,

619

that's when you say, Oh, I am perfect

at that while your potential actually

620

has higher, uh, possibility, but you

put the bar lower than your potential

621

doesn't mean that you cannot change it.

622

Step by step, you go higher, higher,

some people People can stop somewhere in

623

between and they say, I'm fine with that.

624

And that's also fine.

625

It doesn't mean that you, all people

have to grow to their full, not full

626

potential, but still, I mean, like become

influencer, let's say, or to go to sport.

627

I don't want to be in sport.

628

It doesn't mean that I don't have

the potential if I would ever try it.

629

Right.

630

Because we are all created in the

same way, but that was not my goal.

631

That was not my focus.

632

So I never developed those skills

to be in, um, sport versus I have

633

all the skills to be in science.

634

What the person in sport doesn't.

635

So we are complimentary to each other.

636

That's why every person has

a unique place in the world.

637

Every person brings something

unique to the complete picture, and

638

we add the colors to the picture.

639

We also need the negative emotions.

640

Why?

641

Because when you see the world only

through the positive, um, reason and

642

something happens, you are not ready.

643

You're like, I was not expecting

that life is not all about the

644

celebrating or winning or progressing.

645

No, where there is a

birth, there is a death.

646

You have to be ready

for the sadness as well.

647

You have to be ready because as

you grow up, you start to get sick.

648

It doesn't mean that,

Oh, I didn't expect that.

649

Okay.

650

No one expected, no one expected AI.

651

10 years ago, we didn't expect AI.

652

Before we had the cell phone, no

one expected to have the cell phone.

653

Then you could call the

person wherever you were.

654

You could be completely on the

other side of the world, but you

655

could, uh, contact the person.

656

Now we have computer in our pocket.

657

The where you are at this

moment doesn't mean that you

658

cannot end up somewhere better.

659

And by the way, it doesn't mean

that you cannot sleep and go back.

660

So you have to cautiously remind yourself

that what is the path that you want to go?

661

What is the end goal?

662

What is the to do list?

663

What is to complete list?

664

Chunk the bigger picture

into achievable steps.

665

And you will see how

your life will change.

666

If you tell me drink one ocean, I

would be like, I can never drink.

667

A sip a minute, you will drink the

complete ocean during your entire life.

668

That's the compounding and whatever you

compound, that's what you will harvest.

669

That's where the.

670

Because whatever the

input is the triangle.

671

The input, the state and the outcome.

672

If you input the positive, but

your state is in negative, then the

673

outcome would be not very positive.

674

If you input negative, but you

are in positive state, your

675

outcome is going to be positive.

676

That's the secret.

677

That's the beauty.

678

That's the magic that change

your, uh, inner balance.

679

What do you want?

680

What you can influence and

what can influence you.

681

Mike: Don't

682

Axa: allow the negative to influence

you take control over again.

683

Control.

684

I S I'm still working on eliminating

the control because I was conditioned

685

that I can take the control, right?

686

Even the saying is like, uh, uh, you

need to know what you can control.

687

You need to know what you cannot control.

688

That's everywhere.

689

And we are conditioned

that we can control.

690

And then.

691

When you don't meet your expectations,

um, the frustration starts because you

692

are like, okay, other person can, I can't.

693

It means that I can this, I can this.

694

And then you go the complete spiral

for your old limiting billions

695

that you created for over decades.

696

Compounds what you start today.

697

It will compound tomorrow.

698

Start compounding the positive emotions.

699

Mike: Right.

700

Yeah, for sure.

701

Absolutely.

702

No, I mean, I love this idea of

the importance of challenge, you

703

know, and, and challenge in terms of

growing through challenges, right?

704

You know, it reminds me of, I really

enjoy going hiking, you know, and

705

I think it's, it's kind of a really

beautiful metaphor in so many ways.

706

Because if you break it down, you

know, You think, okay, well, in

707

some ways I kind of don't feel like

going through the effort, right?

708

And then you could think that, well,

if you, you know, you just take one

709

step, you know, you take one step up the

trail, you know, and then the next one.

710

And then, you know, maybe you slip

and then you feel like, okay, I'm

711

going back a bit, or, you know, you

drop something and then you realize

712

you have to go back down a bit.

713

So then you do that and you're going,

you're going one step, you're feeling

714

tired, you don't want to do it, you

take a rest, you carry on one step at

715

a time, then finally you get to where

you're headed and you have a beautiful

716

view, you know, or you have a beautiful

swim in, you know, in a lake, right?

717

So, Yeah, I mean, this, this notion of

challenge and meeting challenge and,

718

you know, the whole topic of hormetic

stress, you know, hormetic, H O R M E

719

T I C, hormetic stress as, you know,

there's a lot of research these days

720

that's showing that exposure to things

like, you know, cold water, fasting,

721

you know, the fact that just exercising,

whether it's hiking or working out or

722

whatever, strengthens our muscles and

our mind and makes us more resilient.

723

And so hormetic stress really is

something to me that speaks to this

724

notion of, you know, just pushing the

boundaries of comfort zones in order

725

to progress and improve, to help us to

achieve optimal health and wellness.

726

So, yeah, it's all super interesting.

727

Axa: It's very interesting because,

um, actually the cold water or anything

728

which is out of the scope of your daily

routine that you go through, it's,

729

Extreme stress for your body, and it's

an, it's a notch for your system to reset.

730

Why?

731

Because when we are in chronic

situation, whatever chronic situation

732

is, whether it's when it's negative,

it's horrible, even if it is positive.

733

When you stress your body, you, um, you

restart the system because the stress

734

was created by the nature to wake you up.

735

Stress is not, uh, a horrible thing.

736

It's not negative.

737

It's, um, the positive

if you use it correctly.

738

So if you keep reminding

yourself, the same again would

739

happen with those practices.

740

If you tell yourself, cold water is

stress for me, stress is bad for me.

741

I don't, you can never

survive in a cold water.

742

And in one month, give it the time.

743

Six months, you will be

back in your comfort zone.

744

It doesn't matter the same.

745

Like people start to eat healthy

and in one year, they slide back.

746

People quit smoking, they

write a slide right back.

747

Why?

748

Because you didn't rewire and you

didn't rewire your brain correctly.

749

Because again, you create the new

habit and you start to link everything

750

around that new habit as positive.

751

Cold water is positive, you create it.

752

If there is one attribute

which was previously linked.

753

Any way to negative thing,

let's say a cold is cold for me.

754

It's not good.

755

It doesn't matter.

756

So, if you have that link back to

negative, you will slide right back.

757

You have to rewire everything

which is around the new habit and

758

create it in the positive way.

759

Then you will sustain it.

760

How to do that?

761

Every single day, that's when people

think, Oh, I, I created the new habit.

762

Okay.

763

How often do you create, do you think,

Oh yeah, I created it six months ago.

764

Okay.

765

You're going to slide right back

because how often do you eat?

766

How often do you breathe?

767

Every single minute, the oxygen

that enters your body completely

768

changes your biochemistry, right?

769

The same is the habit.

770

Okay.

771

If you don't sustain it, whatever

you don't sustain will compound.

772

So if you don't sustain the positive

emotion, it will compound and

773

zero multiplied to any number in

the world, it will become zero.

774

If your positive reinforcement for

a particular positive habit is zero,

775

it will never, it will compound zero.

776

It will not compound.

777

It will compound the zero.

778

And if you have attachment that,

um, your name, the positive habit,

779

the new habit is anyway, negative,

you'll compound the negative as well.

780

And then through the

time, depending on the.

781

Life situation, we all go through the

ups and downs and the downs in the

782

last years are more than the positive.

783

So, once you're tapping into that

level between the 1st and the 2nd, you

784

will go right down the rabbit hole.

785

Period.

786

No person is strong enough.

787

To stop it.

788

The successful people, they

don't stop the negative thought.

789

They reinforce the link between

the second and the third period.

790

This is where the transformation happens.

791

If you think that the, uh, People

successful people don't have the link

792

between the 1st and the 2nd, which is

the have is the negative habits that

793

they created over the decades and the

negative emotions that it triggers.

794

You are very mistaken, they

still have it, but they.

795

created the extra level between

the second and the third, and they

796

compound from there, they top their

energy from there, they harvest.

797

And even the tiny thing,

it's still compounds.

798

And then once you stop feeding the

negative, that's when it multiplies

799

the effect of the positive.

800

Don't think that the people

who succeed, they don't still

801

don't have the negative days.

802

It's impossible in the life that we live.

803

How many of like, how many people that

you met on your path thought that COVID

804

is the worst thing to happen to humans?

805

I hope it, I know that many people

lost members of their family.

806

I know that I really, uh, I

had, uh, both, uh, vaccines and

807

the second one was so horrible.

808

Uh, I was not sure that I would survive.

809

If to be honest, the second vaccine

was so bad for me, but when I have a

810

bag and I look, I'm like, okay, if not

COVID, we would not have the option

811

to have all these classes to learn

all the wisdom because they were,

812

uh, running the, the, the seminars.

813

In person, right?

814

We didn't have all these online

classes, the option to even have the

815

zoom meetings to talk to each other.

816

We didn't have before the COVID.

817

So if we change, you see, you

just see the positive thing.

818

And I started to reinforce it.

819

And now I see the COVID was there.

820

Actually, one of the best things to happen

because it completely transformed, uh,

821

the, the communication platforms for us.

822

We see the work.

823

Now, if you tell me you have

to come in person, I would be

824

like, I have to drive all the way

825

and we do it online.

826

The first time I would never

go in person because I'm like,

827

do I need to trust the person?

828

But before you didn't have the option.

829

Now you have the option.

830

So, uh, I just changed the perspective,

the meaning that I gave to the

831

pandemic and the, um, the lockdown,

and I see the outcome, which not

832

many people see, they neglected.

833

But through that, I started to compound

and every time, what it does to, to

834

the body, by the way, So, it helps you

to start to overview everything which

835

you labeled as negative to start to

see, oh, okay, so if the COVID that I

836

thought completely is negative actually

has extremely positive, um, part.

837

Is it possible that other things that

I see through completely negative have

838

any tiny, tiny, tiny piece off positive?

839

You see, I already ceded the um, the

shift to re to rewatch everything and to

840

rewire how I see the events that happened

and I labeled all of them as negative.

841

Um, the tomorrow depends how

you spend your time today.

842

Today depends how you

spend your time yesterday.

843

Never overestimate what you can

do up to tomorrow, but never

844

underestimate what you can do today.

845

you do right now will

compound in one week.

846

Mike: Yeah.

847

Yeah, no, for sure.

848

I think it's a really interesting,

it's, it's a fantastic approach.

849

And again, it's this, what's,

what's really resonating for me is

850

this whole idea of how to, it's,

it's a real reframing, right?

851

It's not, it's not just in an artificial

way, thinking about how can one make

852

the most out of a difficult situation,

but it's the real important thing.

853

notion of growing through stress, of

taking a stressful situation and looking

854

for how one can voluntarily confront the

stressful situation and overcome it, you

855

know, wrestle with it, fight with it.

856

Again, like hiking, you're, you're

hiking, you're putting, you're expending

857

the effort with a goal in mind and it's

painful, but you put up with it, you

858

prove to yourself that you can do it.

859

I think that's a big part of it, is I

think that people don't give themselves

860

enough credit for having the internal

strength and spirit and energy, but

861

once they do exert the effort, They

can remind themselves, hopefully, or

862

prove to themselves that, yes, they

can do it, that they do have the

863

internal resources that they can tap

into in order to achieve their goals.

864

Axa: Yeah, that's very important

to see the difference, by the

865

way, between the patients.

866

And between the tolerance between the

forgiveness and between the tolerance.

867

Um, if, when you go through the

stress, um, more tasks you deal

868

with, it's stressy for your body.

869

That's why when we are kids and,

uh, when you are in your, um.

870

the, the early ages, your, um,

cautious is not that mature.

871

So you have the tendency to generalize and

you don't generalize based on the emotions

872

you generalize based on the emotion.

873

But what also happens, we

generalize the term wise.

874

Like the work, study, environment,

uh, people love relationship.

875

And then you attach the

emotion to the term.

876

That's why people think that

the relationship are harmful.

877

They are painful, but it is essential

to seek for, uh, to seek love.

878

So we go through the life.

879

Expecting that somebody would

love us while we are scared

880

to be in the relationship.

881

We need to dissect everything

that you have in one group and

882

understand the labels come and

go depending on where you are.

883

Depending on the person, don't say that.

884

Let's say, uh, females.

885

We have the tendency to say men

are this and the opposite, right?

886

We have that tendency.

887

Men can men are more focused.

888

Females can multiply.

889

Female can multiply.

890

Everybody says that, but it's

so individual and it changes.

891

But when you have that, um, that mindset

to generalize the things you don't

892

give the option to yourself to progress

and to to see the world as changing.

893

If I didn't succeed today, it doesn't

mean that I will not succeed tomorrow.

894

If I do one step today, it doesn't mean

that I cannot do the second step tomorrow.

895

The progress comes from,

uh, when you continue.

896

But when you continue to do the dumb

things, you will multiply the dumb things.

897

So doing the right things

is essential as well.

898

Normally people think, Oh, I will

do the consistency is the key.

899

No, no, no, no.

900

If you do the dumb thing consistently, you

will multiply the dumb thing consistently.

901

And you will think that It doesn't work.

902

It doesn't work to do

the dumb things, period.

903

Mike: Hundred

904

Axa: percent.

905

No one would disagree with that.

906

So if you.

907

Bake the cake.

908

If you have the recipe and if you skip one

ingredient, you will never bake the cake.

909

The same is for every process

that you do in your life.

910

There are particular ingredients

that you have to follow.

911

Not only the ingredients, you cannot mix

all of them and expect to have best cake.

912

If the ingredients needs to be mixed

step by step, these two together, these

913

two together, then you have to add the

third to this and the fourth to this.

914

And then there is a process

for everything in the world.

915

If you need to transform your life.

916

See what's your bigger picture, then

dissect the bigger picture and chunk

917

it and have to do the list to do the

list relates to the bigger picture.

918

That's the difference to do the

list to do list is linked to the

919

bigger picture to complete the list

is linked to the bigger picture.

920

Chopped chapters.

921

The book is not the complete book.

922

It has the chapters.

923

Every chapter has the title.

924

Every title has subtitle.

925

The life, the processes,

they have the subtitles.

926

They have the consequences.

927

What you put in depending on your state.

928

You will have the results.

929

Start to component the positive thing.

930

Learn all the ingredients that

you need to succeed and stop doing

931

the the the sabotaging efforts.

932

Stop it.

933

Because otherwise you can never reframe

and reshape the path that you go.

934

You will just slide right back slowly,

but slide right back to your comfort

935

zone, then start again and slide back.

936

And you would think that the

progress, that's the progress.

937

That's not the progress.

938

The progress is when you, you are one

level, uh, higher Next period of time when

939

there is a milestone have the milestones

and if you achieve it then reward yourself

940

because when you said we don't reward

ourself so often There is a Tricky part

941

in that because whatever you revert for,

you will, uh, start to multiply that.

942

Do you revert yourself the right way?

943

If you revert yourself for the

effort, you will put the effort.

944

If you revert yourself for the uh,

outcome, you will put the efforts

945

the right way for the outcome because

the links in our brain goes as far as

946

you created the complete path because

you have the, the trigger and you

947

have the, uh, the, um, the outcome.

948

If you have the chops in between,

which don't have the progress, you will

949

come Halfway and you will uh reward

yourself and then your brain, uh read.

950

Oh, okay I'm rewarded for the efforts

the next time you will go halfway

951

and you will reward yourself without

realizing What do I reward myself for?

952

That's why you start with the same to

do list and you end the year with the

953

same to do list have the Complete list,

have to complete list, have the bigger

954

picture, uh, dissected, see what is the

next goal and have add to your agenda

955

every single day to complete list.

956

Mike: Yeah, for sure.

957

Absolutely.

958

Yeah, I think it also

speaks to the importance.

959

And I think for viewers and listeners

to understand that in terms of positive

960

emotion, you know, and we would all

hope to optimize our experience of

961

positive emotion, you know, in a healthy

way that really, there's two kinds.

962

And if we talk about The neurotransmitter

dopamine is part of the system

963

that brings positive emotion.

964

There's this division in terms of

the dopamine systems on the one hand,

965

being involved with what we might

call our appetite or consumptive

966

kind of pleasurable experiences

like, you know, eating dessert,

967

for example, after a nice meal.

968

Exactly.

969

Yeah.

970

And then also.

971

So there's, that's the one side, but

on the other side, there's the goal

972

directed achievement that, you know,

creates a dopamine in terms of, you

973

know, setting a goal and then going

step by step to achieve that goal.

974

And these are different systems, right?

975

And that, and that second one, that

goal oriented dopaminergic system that

976

brings positive emotion tends to be

more, in a way, it's more sustaining

977

because, you know, people chase the

first, um, Consumptive kind of appetite,

978

satiating kind of dopamine, you know,

whether it's sugar or, you know, other

979

kinds of pleasurable experiences, but

those don't tend to have the lasting

980

positive emotional effects that the

goal directed kinds of pursuits help

981

to, you know, Help us to achieve, right?

982

So, yeah, I mean, it's, it's really,

it's super interesting, and I'm really

983

appreciating understanding from you,

you know, a lot of your wisdom and

984

thoughts, um, and I was curious as

well, you know, from, in particular,

985

With regard to your book, are there

any specific other kinds of practical

986

suggestions that you have for how to

help people to, you know, achieve these

987

kinds of things that you're describing?

988

Axa: I actually described the innovative

technique, which I used while I

989

was going through very dark times.

990

I was, um, I was not, I

didn't know where I was.

991

I completely lost the

connection to the world.

992

I didn't.

993

seem even the end off the tunnel.

994

I, um, so while I was going through

those hard times because I lost my dad

995

very accidental, we didn't expect that.

996

Then another life changing

circumstance happened in our family.

997

I wish never happened.

998

Then I went through my parents.

999

Personal trauma.

01:09:55,746 --> 01:09:59,286

Then I moved to live to the

new country all by myself.

01:09:59,786 --> 01:10:05,706

Uh, I, I was trying to start my own

business while being in science for 15

01:10:05,716 --> 01:10:11,136

years, I did several inventions and I

thought I'm ready and I feel so bad.

01:10:11,466 --> 01:10:15,046

And everything was happening within

really very short period of time, six

01:10:15,046 --> 01:10:22,666

months, and I lost this safety, um,

inner balance, which I had in science.

01:10:23,126 --> 01:10:23,486

So.

01:10:24,796 --> 01:10:26,896

I was completely out of the scope.

01:10:26,946 --> 01:10:27,936

I didn't know.

01:10:28,296 --> 01:10:31,846

It's not like I didn't

even see the future.

01:10:31,886 --> 01:10:34,116

That was the scariest part.

01:10:34,626 --> 01:10:41,236

The future that I had in my mind, and I

tend to was completely destroyed, and I

01:10:41,236 --> 01:10:43,796

didn't have anything to replace it with.

01:10:44,176 --> 01:10:50,236

So I tapped into, uh, following

particular process during the day just

01:10:50,246 --> 01:10:54,116

to recover that safety and security.

01:10:55,271 --> 01:11:01,141

feeling within me without realizing

that I was completely rewiring my brain.

01:11:02,341 --> 01:11:09,751

And that's, I have to thank my, uh,

research experience because you learn

01:11:09,761 --> 01:11:15,681

how to, uh, read the literature, which

literature, by the way, to trust, because

01:11:15,701 --> 01:11:18,971

when you have the experience, that's

something that you transfer as well.

01:11:19,401 --> 01:11:23,946

And I start to learn that first

of all, Testosterone, which is the

01:11:24,036 --> 01:11:29,326

hormone, uh, the mostly considered

to be the reproductive hormone from,

01:11:29,406 --> 01:11:32,306

uh, for male, but we also have it.

01:11:32,356 --> 01:11:38,546

And one of the main functions of

testosterone is to provide our good

01:11:38,556 --> 01:11:44,496

mood, the bravery, the risk taking

while cortisol, which is the stress

01:11:44,496 --> 01:11:48,036

hormone, they have opposite dynamic.

01:11:48,296 --> 01:11:51,766

So whenever you have high

testosterone, cortisol drops

01:11:51,766 --> 01:11:54,096

down and the other way around.

01:11:54,126 --> 01:11:54,486

Why?

01:11:54,506 --> 01:11:59,301

Because Cortisol and testosterone,

they have the same basic molecule.

01:12:00,031 --> 01:12:02,521

They differ with the functional groups.

01:12:03,351 --> 01:12:07,441

So whenever your body starts to

produce testosterone, it doesn't have

01:12:07,441 --> 01:12:11,751

the same basic molecule to produce

cortisol, which is the stress hormone.

01:12:12,351 --> 01:12:15,981

And when I started to read the

literature, I was like, wow,

01:12:16,001 --> 01:12:19,291

the nature, nature is amazing.

01:12:19,321 --> 01:12:21,471

How it's created our body.

01:12:22,191 --> 01:12:26,861

And, uh, without realizing the

nature was just forcing me to.

01:12:27,371 --> 01:12:28,651

follow the process.

01:12:29,211 --> 01:12:34,391

If somebody is in very dark place,

they don't know how to continue.

01:12:34,421 --> 01:12:41,141

They are so stuck and procrastination

and anxiety is the daily feeling that

01:12:41,141 --> 01:12:43,231

they go and emotion that they go through.

01:12:43,481 --> 01:12:50,871

I encourage them to read the book because

together with describing the innovative

01:12:50,871 --> 01:12:58,741

technique, I found what Uh, I had from

my past that didn't let, uh, it go.

01:12:59,051 --> 01:13:03,321

That's why I was stuck because,

uh, through going, going through

01:13:03,321 --> 01:13:08,061

the darkness, uh, normally whenever

you go for the motivational videos,

01:13:08,281 --> 01:13:11,841

you hear this recommendation,

you need to let the past go.

01:13:11,921 --> 01:13:13,591

That was freaking me out.

01:13:13,591 --> 01:13:15,401

I was like, Please stop that.

01:13:17,571 --> 01:13:23,761

And, uh, only three, it took me three

and a half years of deep analysis

01:13:24,191 --> 01:13:27,171

to find out what I needed to let go.

01:13:27,541 --> 01:13:34,191

It took me one second to let it go

one second, but I, I came to that.

01:13:34,591 --> 01:13:39,991

So if you don't know, and you cannot

let the past go, it might happen that

01:13:40,231 --> 01:13:44,191

you are stuck with an answered question.

01:13:44,476 --> 01:13:46,296

What do you need to let go?

01:13:46,866 --> 01:13:55,226

Why you accumulated all that bargain from

your childhood that is, you cannot lift

01:13:55,276 --> 01:14:01,726

and it drags you down as a heavy weight

you carry from one year to another.

01:14:03,136 --> 01:14:05,246

I never recommend anyone let go.

01:14:05,486 --> 01:14:06,096

Never.

01:14:06,186 --> 01:14:11,736

I always say before you understand

what you need to let go, you will carry

01:14:11,736 --> 01:14:13,736

that bargain from one year to another.

01:14:13,756 --> 01:14:14,856

And by the way.

01:14:15,696 --> 01:14:17,086

It will become heavier.

01:14:17,106 --> 01:14:17,526

Why?

01:14:17,936 --> 01:14:22,996

Because you add to the same

weight every single day.

01:14:22,996 --> 01:14:27,246

It becomes heavier and

you become weaker again.

01:14:27,276 --> 01:14:30,606

The same balance that we have

the negative and the positive.

01:14:30,706 --> 01:14:34,756

So you don't compound from the positive

and you compound from the negative.

01:14:34,766 --> 01:14:35,786

You become weaker.

01:14:36,106 --> 01:14:38,536

Your weight becomes heavier.

01:14:39,396 --> 01:14:43,516

And once you know the biochemistry,

because, uh, I studied for the.

01:14:43,686 --> 01:14:46,306

as a human biology biologist.

01:14:46,306 --> 01:14:49,906

So that helped me to understand

what happens within me.

01:14:50,176 --> 01:14:54,606

And by the way, because you talked back

and thanks for that, for a dopamine,

01:14:54,616 --> 01:14:58,036

dopamine is the neurotransmitter dopamine.

01:14:58,226 --> 01:15:01,326

We release only when we

assess the situation.

01:15:01,556 --> 01:15:08,456

So dopamine can, uh, be produced either

between the second or the third level.

01:15:08,661 --> 01:15:10,161

That's where the magic happens.

01:15:10,161 --> 01:15:10,921

That's what I said.

01:15:11,241 --> 01:15:14,841

That's only where the magic can

happen, because that's what you can

01:15:14,901 --> 01:15:16,971

influence and you can break the habit.

01:15:17,551 --> 01:15:22,361

And serotonin, which is the

happiness hormone, it is

01:15:22,371 --> 01:15:25,031

produced 90 percent in our gut.

01:15:26,306 --> 01:15:34,006

If you don't eat healthy, you start to

cover 90 percent with something which

01:15:34,016 --> 01:15:41,206

gives you 10 percent reward right away

and you cover the 90 percent with that.

01:15:41,556 --> 01:15:42,276

How?

01:15:42,936 --> 01:15:49,086

How high the chances are, whatever

can cover only 10% to cover 90%.

01:15:49,356 --> 01:15:58,046

So you have to multiply whatever gives

10%, nine times to have the same reward,

01:15:58,646 --> 01:16:03,236

which you can have from serotonin,

which is produced from the Healthy Gut.

01:16:03,236 --> 01:16:03,296

Hmm.

01:16:03,626 --> 01:16:04,706

So if you.

01:16:05,211 --> 01:16:10,771

Receive the reward from eating the

sweet, or some people go for the tobacco.

01:16:11,151 --> 01:16:15,431

Some people go for alcohol or they

gamble, or they go for the social.

01:16:15,491 --> 01:16:20,371

Why people are so stuck and they

are addicted to social media because

01:16:20,371 --> 01:16:26,891

they cover 100 percent of serotonin

through 10 percent of serotonin,

01:16:27,381 --> 01:16:29,841

which gives the fast reward.

01:16:30,161 --> 01:16:32,591

And we multiply it nine times.

01:16:32,791 --> 01:16:36,601

And then we are, uh,

Amazed that we are stuck.

01:16:36,641 --> 01:16:40,611

No, the body is the cloth cycle.

01:16:40,621 --> 01:16:45,451

Please remember that what you put

in, it will, depending on the state

01:16:45,451 --> 01:16:50,421

you are at with your biochemistry,

you will have the reward.

01:16:50,451 --> 01:16:52,511

You will harvest that change.

01:16:52,511 --> 01:16:57,041

That healthy gut is not a luxury.

01:16:57,111 --> 01:17:01,851

It's a must without that

you will stay in that cycle.

01:17:02,111 --> 01:17:04,131

The richest cycle that you.

01:17:04,601 --> 01:17:05,991

Don't see the outcome.

01:17:06,311 --> 01:17:07,261

I had the same.

01:17:07,541 --> 01:17:14,481

So if you don't see the outcome and you

are so stuck and unhappy, read my book.

01:17:14,711 --> 01:17:20,050

It will help you how to rewire

your brain and how to stop.

01:17:20,651 --> 01:17:23,621

It's not like you woke up in the

morning and you decided, I need

01:17:23,621 --> 01:17:25,191

to stop calling it a comfort zone.

01:17:25,861 --> 01:17:27,441

No, it doesn't work that way.

01:17:27,961 --> 01:17:32,796

The title completely fools you.

01:17:32,796 --> 01:17:38,181

And I'm thinking about changing the

title, if to be honest, because I

01:17:38,181 --> 01:17:42,151

hear so many people say, Oh, from the

title, I know what is the book about.

01:17:42,300 --> 01:17:44,671

And I'm like, that's so not true.

01:17:45,216 --> 01:17:50,346

So I'm thinking to change because

people miss the complete, the entire

01:17:50,386 --> 01:17:55,086

process, how to rewire your brain

versus the assumption that they

01:17:55,096 --> 01:17:58,436

have with the, uh, how to change.

01:17:58,436 --> 01:18:01,596

Just only rename it the same process.

01:18:01,596 --> 01:18:05,766

We go through the day, you call it

the comfort zone, your brain assumes.

01:18:06,531 --> 01:18:12,591

You see, you assumed from the title of

my book, what is my book about the same

01:18:13,201 --> 01:18:20,621

because the process, how your brain works,

one word, stop calling it comfort zone,

01:18:20,641 --> 01:18:27,961

you assumed, and you went down the spiral,

everything is comes from the trigger.

01:18:28,596 --> 01:18:30,076

Mike: Yeah, no, for sure.

01:18:30,126 --> 01:18:31,056

Well, and thanks.

01:18:31,386 --> 01:18:32,236

Thanks for sharing.

01:18:32,246 --> 01:18:33,316

You know, some of your story.

01:18:33,316 --> 01:18:35,096

I think I can relate to that.

01:18:35,096 --> 01:18:38,886

I think everyone's going to if they

haven't already have to navigate

01:18:39,116 --> 01:18:41,126

major life challenges and crises.

01:18:41,126 --> 01:18:47,216

And so understanding how again, we've

talked a lot today about how to confront

01:18:47,216 --> 01:18:51,016

challenges voluntarily, even things

that we would rather not go through.

01:18:51,016 --> 01:18:55,146

But understanding that if we keep going,

you know, we can get to the other end,

01:18:55,146 --> 01:18:59,056

and then we'll probably be able to look

back and say, Oh, we In some sense, you

01:18:59,056 --> 01:19:03,096

know, you hear it over and over again,

you know, people, famous people, people

01:19:03,096 --> 01:19:06,736

who are very wise will often say if

they look back on their life and life

01:19:06,736 --> 01:19:10,116

experiences, it was some of the most

difficult things that they went through

01:19:10,496 --> 01:19:13,786

that they probably at the time would have

chosen to not go through those things.

01:19:14,076 --> 01:19:17,066

But when they look back, they think

that those were some of the most

01:19:17,425 --> 01:19:22,036

important things in their lives to make

them who they have ended up being, you

01:19:22,036 --> 01:19:27,106

know, and to have helped them to grow

through that and to, um, to mature

01:19:27,106 --> 01:19:31,786

into, you know, healthy individuals,

um, but maybe I see your book up.

01:19:31,806 --> 01:19:35,386

I mean, I think the title is great, and I

think part of what makes it attractive and

01:19:35,386 --> 01:19:41,106

appealing is that it does bring questions

to mind, and it encourages someone to

01:19:41,106 --> 01:19:46,626

want to read about, you know, what exactly

you're intending to convey with the title.

01:19:46,626 --> 01:19:48,556

I see the book behind

you there on the shelf.

01:19:48,556 --> 01:19:51,866

Do you mind just holding it up to the

camera so that viewers can have a look?

01:19:51,896 --> 01:19:58,016

And, um, yeah, and I think, you know, I'd

really encourage people to explore your

01:19:58,016 --> 01:20:00,326

book, read your book, explore you online.

01:20:00,326 --> 01:20:06,721

And, um, again, I think what's, what I'm

really, um, excited about, you know, um,

01:20:06,921 --> 01:20:11,751

Our audience being able to explore more

is, as you say, you know, getting from the

01:20:11,751 --> 01:20:13,481

second to the third level in your model.

01:20:13,481 --> 01:20:16,621

And I'm sure that, you know, you

explain that in detail in the book.

01:20:16,971 --> 01:20:21,021

Um, maybe if you don't mind, um,

unless maybe let's look at is

01:20:21,050 --> 01:20:23,001

before we look towards wrapping up.

01:20:23,001 --> 01:20:26,591

Is there, um, what do you think would

be the most important takeaway from

01:20:26,591 --> 01:20:30,961

our discussion that you would want

listeners and viewers to, to, um,

01:20:30,981 --> 01:20:32,931

to gain from our conversation today?

01:20:34,706 --> 01:20:39,256

Axa: Normally I go with, um, uh,

one of the best advices that I

01:20:39,296 --> 01:20:44,996

heard in my life, fail fast, but,

uh, lately I completely shifted.

01:20:45,026 --> 01:20:51,236

And at the moment I am very much into,

uh, life is unfair and accept that.

01:20:51,986 --> 01:20:58,416

And where is the magic actually, because

we complain about the life unfairness

01:20:58,436 --> 01:21:00,675

only when it's not in our favor.

01:21:01,336 --> 01:21:04,076

If we worked hard, if you started.

01:21:06,136 --> 01:21:11,636

and you went to the exam and you got

the A grade, you would never come

01:21:11,666 --> 01:21:13,406

out and say, Oh, it was so unfair.

01:21:13,416 --> 01:21:18,606

You would be like, I studied so much,

but let's say the professor decided

01:21:18,616 --> 01:21:20,866

that life's supposed to be fair.

01:21:21,146 --> 01:21:24,436

And the professor would come

and say, okay, today, uh,

01:21:24,506 --> 01:21:26,876

everyone would get the A grade.

01:21:26,916 --> 01:21:28,456

Are you going to be happy with that?

01:21:28,616 --> 01:21:30,586

No, you are going to be unhappy with that.

01:21:30,966 --> 01:21:35,446

So wherever the, uh,

Unfairness of the life ends.

01:21:35,696 --> 01:21:41,516

That's where your unfair advantage

starts, because unlike, uh, the efforts

01:21:41,526 --> 01:21:48,366

that you put in the, the rewards,

the rewards you will, uh, harvest.

01:21:48,756 --> 01:21:57,406

So that's where the, uh, you have to break

that mentality that the life is unfair.

01:21:57,566 --> 01:21:58,546

Life is unfair.

01:21:58,616 --> 01:21:59,006

It's.

01:21:59,925 --> 01:22:01,256

It's never going to change.

01:22:01,266 --> 01:22:05,966

It's not that change the perspective,

how you see, but I encourage you to

01:22:05,966 --> 01:22:08,316

go for the second and the third level.

01:22:08,326 --> 01:22:13,496

This is where you are, because if you are

in life is unfair, you have to accept it.

01:22:13,836 --> 01:22:16,636

You are between the first

and the second level.

01:22:17,116 --> 01:22:22,141

You are not the in the superpower

level, which is coming between the

01:22:22,141 --> 01:22:24,581

second and the third life is unfair.

01:22:24,811 --> 01:22:30,571

I'll take it in my and use it in my

advantage because then you cannot stop it.

01:22:30,841 --> 01:22:34,861

Stop me and the progress

that I can create for myself.

01:22:35,151 --> 01:22:39,081

It's unproportional because you cannot.