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Finding the Right Hills to Die On: The Case for Theological Triage by Gavin Ortlund
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00:00 Welcome and Googley
02:59 Listener Question
06:25 When to Fight Online
09:15 Joshua 7–8
16:34 Luke 2:25-52
22:48 Closing Prayer
23:31 Outro and Podcast Information
Hey everybody.
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:Welcome back to another edition
of the Daily Bible Podcast.
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:Hello and good morning.
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:Happy Sunday.
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:Happy Sunday.
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:Hot Sunday.
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:Is your air conditioner on Pastor Rod?
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:Oh, for sure.
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:It is.
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:Oh yeah, mine too.
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:Upstairs.
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:Yeah, the heat rises.
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:Yeah, we need to keep those rooms cool.
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:Especially at night, man.
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:Yeah.
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:Yeah.
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:You put yours at like 79 or 80, right?
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:It's up there.
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:78.
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:78.
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:Yeah, I was not too far.
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:Yeah that's hot man.
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:If I show up and I'm in
there, I'm gonna be sweating.
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:Well, when we host people we
bump it down because we know that
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:there's a lot of body heat in the
room and temperature can go up.
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:So we do bump it down.
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:Yeah.
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:You need to pre-cool it by several hours.
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:I've heard different things about
living in Texas about how to treat
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:your home when you're not inside it.
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:And I've heard two, two theories.
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:The first one is it doesn't matter.
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:Your home's gonna work just as
hard to keep you cool, so put
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:it up by a few degrees, leave
your home and then come back.
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:You'll save on electricity.
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:The other theory is that no, your
house is better and more efficient
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:when you put on a certain number
and just leave it there all day.
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:Because then it stays cool.
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:Your furniture stays cool.
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:The countertop stay cool,
everything stays cool if you
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:keep it at a certain temperature.
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:But if you raise and lower it your
thermostat is going to make your
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:HVAC work harder and it's gonna
cost you more money in the long run.
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:So better just to keep
it at the same number.
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:What do you subscribe to?
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:So when we were in Arizona and we were
in a hundred twenty, a hundred and twenty
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:five degree heat during the summertime,
we, they would, you would pre-Cool.
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:So you got up in the morning Yeah.
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:When it wasn't as hot outside.
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:Put it like at 60 degrees
and you cranked it way down.
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:Yeah.
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:And then.
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:The electricity cost more too during
the peak hours of the daytime.
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:Right?
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:Right.
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:And so you would basically shut your
air conditioner off after that Oof.
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:And did that in California,
and you just let it gradually
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:heat up throughout the day.
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:We don't do that here.
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:We just run it at 78 across the board.
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:Oh, okay.
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:We just let it roll at that and Yeah.
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:My bill doesn't really spike.
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:I It's predictable.
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:Yeah.
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:It spikes when it's like the
super, like August is the worst.
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:Yeah.
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:August and September.
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:Those are my two highest
bills of the year.
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:Yeah.
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:You run it 24 7.
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:Totally.
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:But aside from that it's reasonable.
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:It doesn't seem to be doing much, yeah.
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:Yeah.
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:I keep mine pretty, pretty cool.
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:Cool.
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:I not as cool as I used to, but
still cooler on the cooler side.
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:I like it that way.
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:Yeah.
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:And I enjoy that.
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:We can enjoy Texas weather the
best when it's controlled and to be
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:comfortable to be super comfortable,
which we're talking about comfortable
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:Christianity today at church.
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:Yeah.
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:Stop.
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:Stop stepping on my toes.
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:I don't like that you're
setting me up here.
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:I like comfort.
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:Nothing wrong with
enjoying the gifts of God.
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:That's true.
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:As long as you enjoy
them with an open hand.
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:Hey, I feel like.
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:Today's sermon and yesterday's
sermon of men's Bible study, kind
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:of hamm and egged a little bit.
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:I feel like they go together pretty well.
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:Yeah.
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:Well, when I gave you my notes and
said, here's what I'm preaching,
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:and then you said, oh, you know, I'm
gonna use half of this for my sermon.
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:I said, oh, cool.
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:No problem.
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:Exactly, exactly.
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:Yeah.
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:It's a whole meal.
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:If you were part of the men's
Bible study, you got to hear
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:part A and then part B on Sunday.
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:It was a good weekend.
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:Yeah.
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:Almost like we planned it.
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:Yeah.
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:But we did not.
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:Which we didn't.
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:No, no.
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:Yeah.
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:So hopefully you're you're gonna
be at church with us this morning.
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:We only got two more weeks of one service
before we moved to two services, so, wow.
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:This weekend, next week.
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:And then we are officially
two service church.
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:And then you're gonna
miss it when it's gone.
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:Yes, yes.
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:I remember the good old days.
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:We only had one.
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:There was only one.
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:Yeah.
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:Yeah, we have a question.
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:We've got a question.
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:Let's answer it.
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:So I wanna throw it at you
and see how you answer it.
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:And I want you also to help me as a
parishioner to a normal, average, everyday
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:congregant who's not reading Luther.
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:Help me put this into perspective.
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:Okay.
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:Here's the quote.
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:The quote is from Luther, and it
says this, if I profess with the
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:loudest voice and clearest exposition.
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:Every portion of the truth of God,
except precisely that little point which
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:the world and the devil are attacking.
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:I am not confessing Christ, however
boldly I may be professing him.
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:Or the battle rages there, the
loyalty of the soldier is proved.
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:And so our question asker, he says,
do you agree with this sentiment?
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:And if so, how do you balance this
with the idea of theological triage
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:and secondary tertiary issues?
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:I love that idea of theological triage
that was coined, I believe, by Dr.
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:Moler and most recently appropriated
by Gavin Orland in his book
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:called, you know this book, bro?
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:It's it's a book about.
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:Fighting on the, oh, finding
the right hills to die on.
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:Yes.
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:That's the name of the book.
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:Yes.
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:That's a great book.
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:I commend that to you,
but let's talk about that.
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:Do you agree with Luther?
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:In other words if you're opening up
scripture, but you're not hitting the
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:topic of the day, the topic du jour.
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:And it's where the battle is hottest.
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:Right?
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:Are you being faithful to God?
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:Right.
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:It depends in what We're not at a,
we're at a disadvantage because we don't
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:exactly know where this came from Luther.
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:So we don't know the surrounding
context of what Luther was talking
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:about in making this statement.
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:It's just a quote that has been
attributed to him by multiple sources.
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:And so it's hard to say and the reason
I say that is this, there are times
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:where I would say, yeah, you do need
to be ready to go after what the
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:world is attacking and address that
and where your witness can be heard.
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:If you don't, I, if you're there and
you are, you're hammering home one area
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:where you're super confident because
you don't wanna venture into this other
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:area, but the world is sitting there
saying, yeah, but this area, and we
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:wanna talk about this, whether it's.
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:Creation evolution or gender
identity or whatever it is and
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:you're just ignoring that and
you're not gonna speak to it at all.
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:The risk that we run is communicating
that the Bible doesn't have anything
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:to say about that or perhaps that
the world's wisdom is greater than
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:God's wisdom on one of those issues.
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:So I think it is good for us to be as
well-rounded Christians able to have
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:those dialogues in these various areas.
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:That said.
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:It can also hurt our witness if we spend
all of our time focused on trying to prove
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:young Earth creationism to somebody who's
an evolutionist, and then totally miss the
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:opportunity to share the gospel with them.
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:And I think in that instance, we can
do damage because we're not actually
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:being an ambassador for Christ.
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:We're not doing any good, even if
they leave evolution behind, if
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:we don't ever get to the point of
being able to share the gospel with
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:them, then we've done them no good.
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:They're just a slightly less less wrong.
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:Soul that's now still just
as much destined for hell
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:as they were to begin with.
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:So I think theological triage
is helpful for us to sit back
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:and say what is necessary?
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:What's helpful, what's good for us
to bring into this conversation?
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:And that's even gonna change.
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:In various areas.
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:He's talking about the world here, but
even within the church, we're gonna have
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:different levels of theological triage.
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:What doctrines matter for us to have
to be lockstep in agreement with
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:the fellowship together to serve on
the same ministry staff together,
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:or just to attend church together.
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:What doctrines are less important there?
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:So I.
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:It's not a clear cut answer either way,
but I do think we need to care about
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:truth because God is a God of truth and
we need to stand upon truth, but we need
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:to be careful not to fight for things
so much that we miss also at the same
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:time being able to share the gospel.
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:Amen to that.
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:I am full on and heartily
agreement with you on that.
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:In the age and day of Christian
Twitter, we argue about.
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:Everything.
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:Yes.
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:And while it's fun I think it's enjoyable
to watch two Christian theologians duke
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:it out on a certain topic and sometimes a
topic is helpful and actually substantive.
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:Other times though it's so inane and
so unworthy of our time and yeah,
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:below the dignity of the office to
argue about that, I often think.
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:What does the world think about us when
they see our infighting and our bickering?
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:We're supposed to be known
as peacemaking people.
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:That doesn't mean that we sacrifice
truth at the altar of peace, but we're
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:willing to overlook quite a bit when
it comes to and you mentioned this,
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:primary, secondary, and then tertiary.
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:Mm-hmm.
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:That's first level,
second level, third level.
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:It's great to argue about
the first level things.
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:Those are the matters of salvation.
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:The secondary things are important,
but those are in-house discussions.
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:Those are intramural conversations
that we really don't want
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:to allow the world to see.
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:Because it's not helpful for them to
be a confused by those things, or B, to
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:see us really fighting in ways that are
again below the dignity of the office.
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:So I thought about one Timothy chapter
six, where Paul is saying, look, you gotta
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:teach and nurse these things, Timothy.
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:If anyone teaches a different
doctrine and does not agree with the
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:sound words of our Lord Jesus Christ
and the teaching that accords with
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:godliness, he says, that person.
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:Who doesn't do this?
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:He has puffed up with conceit
and understands nothing.
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:He has an unhealthy craving for
controversy in quarrels about
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:words which produces envy,
dissension, and on and on he says.
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:So there is a time and place to, to
call things out, and I think it's.
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:On the primary spectrum, it's areas
where it's like these are matters of
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:importance for someone's salvation, but
by and large, the pastor, the parishioner,
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:every Christian is supposed to be a
peacemaking person, not quarrelsome.
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:We don't like picking fights.
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:We don't pick fights for fun.
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:It is good to fight for the right things,
for the right reasons at the right time.
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:But if you don't do
that, you put yourself.
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:At odds with, I think
what God's purposes are.
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:And you also make us look
bad to a watching world.
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:And I think it's important for us
to remember the era in which Luther
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:was serving, writing, ministering.
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:They were dealing with pretty
significant salvific issues.
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:And I think when he's talking about in
this quote, the world and the devil.
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:Knowing Luther's opinion of the Catholic
Church, I think he probably would put
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:the Pope and the Catholic Church in
cohorts with the world at this point as
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:far as attacking some of the doctrines,
what scripture clearly teaches here.
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:So that's important for
us to remember as well.
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:Scripture's not argue Luther's not
arguing the same things in his era
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:that we would argue about today.
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:We've got the luxury, to your point,
to argue some pretty obscured things.
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:Benign, yeah.
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:Yeah.
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:He was fighting for the actual
validity of the gospel in his day.
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:Right.
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:Yeah.
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:So I like the statement I would
be careful to adopt it and say it
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:takes a great deal of wisdom to
know how to apply things like that.
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:It does.
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:Yeah, for sure.
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:For sure.
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:Well, hey, let's jump into
our daily Bible reading today.
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:Joshua seven and eight and
Luke chapter 2, 25 through 52.
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:Joshua seven and eight.
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:We have Joshua with an another
battle with Israel this time
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:and this is the battle of ai.
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:Now, we were just talking offline,
it's probably pronounced differently
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:in the Hebrew because it's got
a guttural and everything else.
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:We're not gonna try to do that 'cause
neither of us are native Hebrew speakers.
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:You have the best shot
since you are Jewish.
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:That's true.
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:I am, but but AI works.
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:Thank you for remembering that.
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:Yeah.
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:This is not artificial
intelligence either.
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:Joshua is not battling and fighting
against artificial intelligence.
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:Dude, I bet some Christian
somewhere is like, dude, the
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:Bible talks about us fighting ai.
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:It talks about ai.
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:Yeah.
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:Oh man.
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:What was the school?
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:Alexandrian School was the
metaphorical school of interpretation.
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:You had the two different schools there.
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:And I could see somebody from the
Alexandria school back in the day
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:being like, yes, this is about ai.
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:This is actually about
artificial intelligence here.
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:Yes.
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:Anyways, things don't go well initially
here in chapter seven and this would've
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:been shocking to Israel because they've
just come off of the conquest of Jericho.
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:They didn't even have to
fire a shot there, really.
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:They just marching around the
walls that the walls fall down.
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:They go in, they conquer everybody there
and they've crossed over the Jordan River.
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:Things are going swimmingly.
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:They're going super well for
Israel and then they go up against
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:Aiken now or against AI rather.
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:And you think.
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:This is another nation.
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:God's gonna drive them out.
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:Israel is gonna win, and they're defeated.
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:In fact, Joshua even doesn't
send the full forces out there.
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:He's thinking we, we've got this.
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:God is going to fight the battle for us,
and instead they're defeated here and.
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:Joshua goes to the Lord
and asks the Lord why?
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:And the Lord reveals to Joshua
the reason for their defeat.
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:And that is because somebody had
taken some of the spoil from Jericho.
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:Somebody had taken some of the
things devoted to destruction
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:and kept it for himself.
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:And so in this chapter, we learn through
the process of casting lots, which every
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:decision is ultimately from the Lord.
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:The lot is cast in the lot, but
every decision is from the Lord as
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:the writer of Proverbs says here.
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:So the lot.
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:Falls to Aiken.
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:Aiken is going to be exposed
by God here, and Aiken's gonna
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:suffer him and his family.
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:Now.
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:This is the second time we've seen the
family suffer along with the Father.
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:Now, one distinguishing note here, I
think that's important for us to make.
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:If we look at verse 24, if.
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:It says Joshua and Israel with them took
ache in the son of Zarah with the silver
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:and the cloak in the bar of gold and his
sons and daughters, his oxon and donkeys.
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:And they end up executing them.
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:The words, sons and daughters is not
the same word used of of help me out.
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:Children of the little
ones back with, cora.
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:Yeah.
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:Oh yeah.
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:When Cora, the little ones in
Cora's family, sons and daughters
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:could be those that are older.
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:Right.
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:And so one of the things that I'm
gonna argue here is I think God gives
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:plenty of opportunities for repentance
to take place in this process.
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:As Joshua announces and gathers
the people by lot there and
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:says, something has happened.
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:We're going to, God is going to identify
the guilty party, so many opportunities
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:for both Aiken and his family to a step
forward and said, we're the guilty ones.
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:We've done it.
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:And cast themselves on
the mercy of the Lord.
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:What would've God done at that point?
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:We're not sure because it's a
situation that doesn't present itself.
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:But the opportunity for repentance is
there is my only point in all of this.
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:I would agree with that.
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:And what you also see here is
that I think what you see is
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:complicity in the children.
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:They must be saying, we're with you, dad.
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:We're going to hide this along with you.
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:I take this to mean that they are
guilty because they are accomplices
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:in the act which a can prove.
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:Aiken committed.
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:Another factor in chapter seven for
me is that the constant reminder
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:that you never sin in singular,
others are always gonna be affected.
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:Mm-hmm.
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:By your sin.
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:Mm-hmm.
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:And not only is it your family
who you took along with you Aiken,
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:but it's also the whole camp.
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:Mm-hmm.
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:Everybody suffers because of aikens sin.
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:I don't know if you saw that or
not, but you should see that the
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:whole people lose against ai.
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:Because Aiken took something
that didn't belong to him.
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:And I think this might be strange
to the rest of us who are, again
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:we're westerners, we're, we think
individualistically and not corporately,
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:but God saw them as a whole unit.
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:They were a whole people.
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:And so when we do this when
they did this, it was not just.
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:Aiken by himself, it was Aiken
and all those who are dependent
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:upon his righteousness.
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:And I think this is helpful for
us to see as Westerners because we
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:constantly think only in the singular,
it's about me, my family at the most.
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:But God sees us as a unit.
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:In fact, when Jesus is navigating
himself through the churches, he
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:doesn't call out singular people.
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:He looks at the whole church.
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:He says, I see your deeds.
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:I look at all of you.
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:The church at Philadelphia,
the church at La Deia.
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:He's calling out whole
congregations of believers.
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:Now, this is interesting because I
think it still has bearing on us today.
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:I think God does see you as your church,
or at least your part of the whole.
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:Remember, you think
about the body of Christ.
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:He doesn't see you as just a finger.
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:He does see you individually,
but he also sees you corporately.
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:It's like God can't help but see
you as both a part of the body and
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:a particular member of the body.
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:He sees both.
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:We focus on the individual, God focuses
on the individual and the corporates.
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:We would do well to do the same.
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:Yeah.
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:Yeah.
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:36 men die because of Aiken sin.
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:Right.
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:Because They were
innocent, defeated before.
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:Yeah.
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:They're relatively innocent.
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:They're not Absolutely.
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:So, but they're relatively innocent.
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:They didn't participate.
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:Yeah.
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:And because of their sin.
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:Because they can sin their lives are dead.
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:And then just think about their families.
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:Mm-hmm.
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:Their mothers, their children, their wives
who are dependent upon them, they're, they
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:suffer because of, again, ache and sin.
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:So since we're not in a building yet,
somebody must be in sin in our camp.
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:So tomorrow at church, or
today at church, I should say.
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:Yeah.
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:Today we're gonna cast lots.
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:And we're gonna find out, all right.
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:Bring them dice.
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:Well after this is dealt with in the
evils perch from the midst of the
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:camp, Israel gets round two with ai.
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:And it's fascinating still though,
because this is a very different way that
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:God is gonna provide victory for Joshua
and Israel than he did with Jericho.
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:With Jericho, Joshua was told, Hey,
go march around the city seven times.
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:The walls will fall down.
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:This time God is going to use
Joshua's military mind and strategy.
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:To bring about victory over ai.
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:This time Joshua's gonna
strategize and say, you know what?
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:We're gonna make them think that
this is gonna be the same easy
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:victory that they had over us last
time, but we're gonna lay an ambush.
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:And so Joshua's using his wit and
wisdom here to go about planning
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:the defeat of ai, but he's.
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:Ultimately trusting the
Lord to bring the victory.
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:So we see that married together
here with this situation.
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:And we'll see that multiple times.
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:We see that during the reign of King
David with Joab and Jo's brother, as
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:they are plotting a defense themselves.
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:Later on, God uses us to
accomplish his sovereign purposes.
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:So Israel was gonna win.
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:Why?
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:Because God was fighting for
them, but God was gonna fight
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:for them through their own.
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:Efforts to say we're gonna avail our
ourselves of the Lord and we're gonna do
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:our best and trust that he's gonna use
our efforts in accomplishing his will.
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:Such a good point.
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:Such a good point.
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:Because it tells us that
God does use different means
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:to accomplish his purposes.
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:God is not singular in his tool set.
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:He doesn't just say, I've only got this
one thing and this is all I can do.
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:God operates in the
spectacular and the mundane.
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:He doesn't have one way
of doing things right now.
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:We have his word.
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:We have his truth, and we should
rely on that and depend upon that.
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:He doesn't have more than one Bible.
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:That's not my.
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:Point, but I am saying he does have
more than one tool in his tool belt.
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:Right.
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:Let God be God.
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:Yeah.
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:Let's flip over to Luke chapter two
verses, by the way, if you note there
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:that they spare the king just keep reading
because the king is ultimately executed.
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:So this is not a situation where they're
disobeying God by letting the king live.
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:The king is gonna be hanged later on.
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:As a representative, I think of
the entire people there, but if
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:you notice that and you're like,
wait a minute, they spare the king.
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:Just keep going.
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:He's taken out Luke chapter two.
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:Is our New Testament reading, and we're
gonna get into verses 25 through 52 and
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:we meet two interesting people here.
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:We meet Simeon and we meet Anna,
and both of these are going to
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:be, prophets in their own right
here as they're gonna come forth.
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:And Simeon is going to take up the
child, the child, Jesus in his.
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:Arms and even make this prophecy
about him and say, Lord, you are now
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:letting your servant depart in peace
according to your word, for my eyes.
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:Have seen your salvation that you prepared
in the presence of all peoples Simeon's,
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:A guy I'd love to talk to when I get to
heaven, to find out what did you know?
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:And what did you think when you were
holding baby Jesus in your arms?
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:Simeon, did you know that this baby,
this is the second time you've done this?
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:That is true.
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:Did Mary know it's true?
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:Did Simeon know?
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:I think he just want a song for everybody.
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:I just said what did he know?
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:Is my question, Anna?
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:Did you know Anna too?
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:Why not?
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:Let's throw her in there too.
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:What did you know, Anna?
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:More Christmas songs on the way.
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:Yeah, but these are just unique
people that obviously foreshadow.
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:Who this child is and Luke's including
it again as he's writing into
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:Theophilus, so that Theos might have
certainty in the things that he's heard.
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:So he's saying, look, Simeon's prophesying
this, Ann is prophesying this and Luke
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:is writing this with the intent of
writing the rest of the story as well.
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:So Luke's writing this, knowing
the type of savior that Jesus
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:And so he's.
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:Including this intentionally
with that in view.
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:Now Simeon, I don't think knew about
the cross and the empty tomb and
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:sin and everything else like that.
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:So Simeon's operating on, on limited
knowledge, but as we'll often say
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:Simeon is speaking better than he
knew in this prophecy about the
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:future of what Jesus was gonna be.
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:And then you've got Anna as well
who was a faithful woman of God
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:and a widow for quite a long time.
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:And God had promised her that she would
one day see the redemption of Jerusalem.
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:And that is the coming of
the birth of Christ here.
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:Yeah.
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:There are so many questions that
are sparked by this, and I think
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:the healthy response for us when we
have questions that we know we can't
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:answer is a healthy sense of awe.
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:To sit back and say, what was it like?
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:Now?
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:I just gave you some grief for asking
the question, what did they know?
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:But it is an interesting
question to ponder.
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:Yeah.
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:What were they operating off of?
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:Clearly it was biblical because
God said, we're gonna preserve this
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:and keep this in the Bible for.
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:All generations of Christians to read.
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:But I think even Anna a daughter of
fan Uel, the tribe of Asher, you don't
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:hear a lot about Asher, but here's this
gal out of Asher who is a prophetess.
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:That's another interesting note there.
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:This is un under the New Testaments, at
least one of the last female prophetess
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:that we know about, except when we
get to what's his name's Daughters.
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:A, a Agabar.
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:No, Agabus.
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:Agabus.
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:That's the one.
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:I don't know who Agbar is,
but Agabus is his cousin.
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:I think she was advanced in years
having lived with her husband seven
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:years from when she was a virgin.
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:Then she's a widow for 84 years.
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:I don't know that the Bible is saying
it's better to be a widow than not,
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:but clearly this is a devout woman.
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:That's what it's getting at.
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:Yeah, and her devoutness
is something that found.
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:Pleasure to the heart of God, and he
let her know, Hey Ann, I'm just gonna
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:tell you some special things here.
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:I just love this.
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:And she's a paragon of prayer and fasting.
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:You notice here in verse 37, she never
departed from the temple, which again
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:tells me what is she doing there?
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:We have no idea what the women
are doing at the temple, right?
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:Tabernacle, no idea.
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:What are the women at the Tabernacle?
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:We don't know, right?
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:She's got so many question marks around
her, but I just find it fascinating
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:and so enjoyable to think about the God
who serves all these different people.
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:God highlights Anna and Simeon, two people
that you never would've heard about.
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:Save for the scriptures
and save for their piety.
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:I love this.
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:This is exactly the heart
of God to showcase the low.
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:The people that are probably
gonna be overlooked by and
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:large, God highlights them.
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:Yeah.
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:Yeah.
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:The rest of this chapter you see the
familiar scene of Jesus in the temple
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:holding court with the religious
leaders and just leaving these
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:teachers and these experts in the
scriptures, experts in the Torah, in
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:awe over his wisdom in understanding.
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:But I think it's important to
note right before this, in verse
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:40, it says, the child grew and
became strong, filled with wisdom.
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:And the favor of God was upon him.
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:And so Jesus is just re we're reminded
of his humanity and we're reminded
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:of the humiliation of the kenosis
that Paul talks about in Philippians
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:chapter two, that Jesus had to grow
and had to grow up and had to become
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:strong and had to gain wisdom.
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:He's filled with wisdom
progressively here.
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:And so this is a glimpse into
what it looked like for him to.
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:As we talk about it, empty himself of
that equality with God not considering
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:it a thing to be held, but a thing that
he's willing to release as he took on
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:full humanity to his full deity there.
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:And so this is just fascinating because
you get the humility of Christ on the
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:one hand, and then you get the amazing
wisdom of Christ as he's sitting in the
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:temple with these teachers and astounding
them with the questions that he's asking.
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:How is it possible, do you think,
in verse 52 that Jesus increases?
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:In the favor with God and man, if
he is, and as we believe He is a son
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:of God here, so is Jesus increasing
wisdom, its stature and in favor with
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:God and man, how is he increasing in
those areas when he is the son of God?
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:Yeah I think John's Gospel does such
a good job of bringing out Christ.
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:Total submission to
the will of the father.
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:And ultimately that culminates in
his willingness in the garden to say,
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:not my will, but your will be done.
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:So I believe that this is emphasizing
in his humanity and his human will, his
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:submissiveness to the father and his
submissiveness to the father's will.
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:So he's growing in favor as he
continues to demonstrate that obedience
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:to the Father through all things.
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:Now, was there ever a situation where
he was gonna disobey the father?
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:I would say no.
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:Arguably that's an impossibility.
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:And yet he is experiencing and coming
to know more of the father's favor.
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:As he continues to submit
himself to the will of the
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:father, even as a young boy here.
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:Yeah.
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:I also considered that perhaps
what's happening is that he is
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:storing up quantities of God's favor.
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:That is, as he's more and more obedience,
God is more and more pleased with him.
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:It's not that he ever didn't have that.
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:He is a second member of the
triune Godhead, but as he's.
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:And as he's dwelling in the body of
a man, he continues to grow and do
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:good, and God continues to be proud
and to find him attractive in his
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:holiness and gives him more and more
credit, as it were to his account.
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:And this is perfect because
as he does that, he's a.
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:Accumulating it for you and I.
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:Mm-hmm.
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:When he dies, he attributes his
righteousness and all of his
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:accumulated favor to us through
his own death, his resurrection.
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:And this is what's so beautiful
about what Christ does.
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:He lives his whole life in this
way, which is, makes him, which is
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:what makes him a worthy substitute.
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:And the first born among many brothers.
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:This is why we're Christians.
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:Jesus living in our place, building
up all the righteousness we need,
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:taking on all of our sin debt.
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:He is the one true savior.
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:Well, let's pray.
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:Father, we thank you for
that one true savior.
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:We thank you for his submissiveness
to you and to your will.
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:Even through the incarnation, something
we'll never fully wrap our minds around.
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:As far as its profundity, the
humility that he took on as he
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:came for us to identify with us, to
live dependent upon even your will.
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:For us so that we might
be reconciled to you.
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:So we thank you for Christ
our perfect sacrifice.
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:We pray that we would honor
him in the way we live today.
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:In Jesus' name, amen.
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:Amen.
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:Keep in your Bibles.
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:Tune in again tomorrow for another
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