Transforming with Thyroid Strong: A Journey of Strength and Healing with Barbie Beavers

Dr. Emily Kiberd introduces Barbie Beavers, a past Thyroid Strong member who shares her transformative journey. Barbie discusses her significant results in weight loss, increased energy levels, and joint stability aimed at avoiding osteoporosis. They explore Barbie's history with Hashimoto's, various injuries, and the role weightlifting played in her recovery and overall well-being. Dr. Kiberd also highlights a special sale and bonuses for Thyroid Strong, a six-week course designed for women with Hashimoto's to build strength and confidence. Full of insightful tips on overcoming fear of weightlifting, modifying exercises, and sustaining motivation, this episode is a testament to the power of persistence and proper guidance.

00:00 Introduction and Special Guest Announcement

00:24 Thyroid Strong Program Details and Benefits

01:47 Welcoming Barbie Beavers

02:08 Barbie's Health Journey and Family History

05:04 Challenges and Experiences with Yoga

07:20 Transition to Weightlifting and Thyroid Strong

13:22 Program Structure and Personal Adjustments

14:58 Energy Levels and Thyroid Lab Results

15:56 Discovering Thyroid Issues

16:29 Chiropractic Adjustments and Pelvic Stability

17:18 Managing Shoulder and Back Pain

18:35 The Importance of Proper Lifting Techniques

19:59 Overcoming Injuries and Staying Motivated

24:11 Investing in Home Workout Equipment

27:09 Transitioning from Yoga to Strength Training

28:49 The Benefits of Strength Training for Women

29:49 Final Thoughts and Encouragement

To jump on this special discount of Thyroid Strong, $200 off, 40% off before 5/22/25! Go to www.dremilykiberd.com/tssummer/

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Lovely ladies, Dr.

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Emily Kiberd here.

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I wanted to jump in here really quick.

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I have a very special

guest on Barbie Beavers.

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She is one of the past thyroid strong

members and she had amazing results

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with, weight loss and boosting

her energy and joints feeling

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stable and feeling really strong.

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Her whole goal was to.

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Avoid osteoporosis, which

her grandmother had.

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And I wanted to share this because

we have a very special sale going

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on right now with thyroid strong,

$200 off the six week course.

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And if you are interested in joining

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experts, different functional medicine

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doctors on how to heal your gut with

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Um, how to understand your

medication better with Hashimotos.

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the link in the show notes.

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Uh, so far about 30 women have signed up

and it's gonna be a great group of women.

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finding a weight around the house and.

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Well do the work now so that by the

end of summer, you feel amazing.

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All right, ladies, the link is

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EMILY: barbie Beavers, welcome

to Thyroid Strong Podcasts.

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I'm excited to have you here.

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You are one of the women who joined

Thyroid Strong, one of the many

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women, and got amazing results and

has really changed how you're working

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out and how you move your body.

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So welcome.

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I'm excited to have you here.

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Thank you.

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I'm excited to be here.

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Yeah.

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So you have Hashimotos?

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Yes, I do.

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And what were some of your symptoms

or what are some of your symptoms

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currently?

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Um, well I have Hashimotos

and on, um, menopausal.

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So I have, um, I was having

low energy weight gain.

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Weight gain, then

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pot, um, double whammy.

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BARBIE: Yeah.

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So, um, those were the two main reasons.

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Um, and then my, my

grandmother had osteoporosis.

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Um, she had broke her first hip when I was

still in, like freshman in high school.

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Um, and then she broke the other

hip, um, once I, I had graduated high

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school, so I mean, it, they weren't.

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Real close together, but they

weren't real far apart either.

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EMILY: How old was she?

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Do you know?

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BARBIE: Um, I don't know.

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Um, she was 91, 92 when she died,

so it, it had been like 30, 40 years

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before, so she couldn't have been,

but you know, maybe early sixties.

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Yeah.

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That's,

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EMILY: so she broke her first hip young.

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BARBIE: Yeah.

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And they think that she was

just walking and the joint gave

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out, so, um, she apparently had

osteoporosis pretty bad, and I don't

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EMILY: want it.

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No one wants that, plus no.

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Once you break a hip, the

decline, I'm sure, as you

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probably observed, is very quick.

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BARBIE: Yes.

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Hers did not set right,

um, on the first go around.

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And so she had a hard time getting around.

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Yeah, so then she was less active.

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Um, got heavy, ended up with

diabetes, you know, the whole thing

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as you, as you become less mobile.

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So, um, yeah.

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Uh, if I'm, I'm, I look like her, so I'm

hoping I have a good long life like her.

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Yeah.

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And, um, So I want, and when

I'm 93, I wanna be going

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EMILY: strong.

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Yeah.

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And one of the best ways, and even

conventional medicine recommends

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us, is to increase your bone

density by lifting weights.

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Yeah.

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Which I was afraid of.

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It's scary, right?

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Like if you've never done it before,

like when do we learn to lift weights?

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BARBIE: Uh, never.

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Never.

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And you know, I'm 51.

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So even back then, you know,

athletes today are taught,

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you know, where their core is.

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And back when I was in school, nobody

ever taught us how to engage our core.

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Yeah.

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So, you know, I was playing

softball, I was cheerleading, um,

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and, and none of those sports.

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Did anybody ever teach you

where your core was and

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how

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EMILY: to use it?

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Yeah.

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I think in an ideal world it would

be part of the physical education.

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Right?

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Just like, mm-hmm.

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Yeah.

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Kids kind of like run the, the

mile, the president's mile.

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Yeah.

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They would also learn how to engage

the core, how to breathe properly,

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how to brace properly, which we

talk about in thyroid strong.

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How are you working out

before you joined thyroid?

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Strong yoga.

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Yoga.

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Yoga.

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Yoga.

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Okay.

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Any particular flavor of yoga?

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BARBIE: Um, I prefer

Iyengar if I can get it.

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Um, but if I can't, then

I'll do, I'll do whatever.

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EMILY: Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Did you have any injuries while

you, during your yoga practice?

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BARBIE: Yes.

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Um, uh, when I first started

yoga, I, I popped ribs a lot.

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Mm-hmm.

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Um, I would have ribs dislocate a lot,

um, and then my low back and, um, I've

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always had tight shoulders and I was

hoping that yoga would help with the

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tight shoulders, but, and it did it,

I mean, I can't say that it didn't,

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but I still have limited mobility in

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EMILY: my shoulders.

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Yeah.

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Do you think, did you ever correlate

like some of the low back pain or

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si joint pain to like overstretching

hamstrings, the back to your legs at all?

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Did you ever notice?

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No.

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No.

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I did

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not

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BARBIE: correlate that

at the time I do now.

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Oh, I love it.

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I also, um, I also have a little

hypermobility in my low back

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according to my chiropractor.

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Mm-hmm.

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Um, and, and ev forward folds are

just like, I could stay in a forward

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fold, especially a wide-legged

standing forward fold all day.

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Mm-hmm.

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And you know, that's really

not what I should be doing for.

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My particular

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EMILY: body.

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Yeah.

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So for listeners who don't

know, this correlation of

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low back pain and hamstrings.

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When we overstretch our hamstrings,

which are the le the muscle in

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the back of our legs, um, when we

overstretch them, they insert into our

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pelvis and they're kind of like our

anchors that hold our pelvis in place.

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So when we overstretch them, We

can then get this kind of like sway

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back or banana back where a pelvis

just kind of dumps forward cuz

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there's nothing anchoring them down.

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So, um, And oftentimes when people have

tight hamstrings, so kind of the opposite

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end, like people are like, oh, I gotta

stretch, I gotta stretch my hamstrings.

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They oftentimes will have a weak

core and if you address the core,

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the hamstring tightness will let go

cuz the body is stabilizing properly.

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Um, so you joined thyroid Strong.

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Which was probably a little

bit of a leap because it sounds

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like weightlifting was scary.

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It was a big leap.

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What kinda like, what was like, you're

like, okay, I'm gonna make the leap.

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What was that feeling inside of you

or what kind of pushed you to do it?

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BARBIE: Well, I, I don't, I, I,

I've been wanting to lift weights

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for, I don't know, probably, I

dunno, maybe even longest 10 years.

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Um, weightlifting and boxing was

two of the things though on my.

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Um, I wanna a learn list.

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Yeah.

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I still haven't learned a box, but, um,

I just, I didn't feel comfortable with

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any of, I mean, we live in very small

areas, so there's not a lot of opportunity

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for working one-on-one with trainers

and trainers that I had in my area.

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They scared me.

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Um, why so I, I know I have a limit.

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Um, I don't have a lot of energy reserved.

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Mm-hmm.

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And I mean, it was like CrossFit and.

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Um, I tried hot yoga once

and it about killed me, uh,

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come out of their, um, tank.

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I mean, I did, I wasn't

trying hot yoga on purpose.

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It just happened.

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I went to a class and it

turned out to be hot yoga.

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Um,

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EMILY: that's the worst.

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You're like, I didn't know

it was gonna be like this.

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BARBIE: I know.

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I didn't, I was not properly

prepared with a towel for my

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yoga mat, so I didn't face plant.

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Yeah.

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In my own sweat.

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Um, so I come outta there like, uh, you

know, just trash for a couple of days.

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So I did not want, I was just a number

one, I was afraid I had bulged a disc,

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um, at work, bending, lifting and

twisting, which, you know, that's a no-no.

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And I just, I was not

thinking, I was feeling really

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strong that day, apparently.

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Um, And then, so I tweaked my back

and then I kept forward folding,

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and then during a forward fold,

because the forward fold felt good.

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Um, I popped that I bulged that disc.

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So I had that going on.

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Um, I mean, I get the weird injuries.

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Um, I fell on my tailbone, um,

kicking the soccer ball for my dog.

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On a icy surface.

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Oh, uh, I know I fell off my horse when

I was 17 on that same, on the same side

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that I, that I hit that time, which is the

same side that I bulged the disc and then

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I was dropped on my head in cheerleading

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EMILY: practice.

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So lots of bingers.

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And you've had frozen shoulder syndrome,

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BARBIE: right?

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I have had frozen shoulder in high

school, which is kind of unusual

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to, for you to be that young.

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Yeah.

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Um, but I'm pretty sure that probably

came from, uh, softball and I also in

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high school, which makes me think that

I probably should have been diagnosed

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with Hashimoto's like way back.

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I mean it, I was probably in my

thirties before I was diagnosed.

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Um, I tore a ligament

in the arch of my foot.

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Um, and nobody could, we

really never figured out how.

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I was sitting in the

recliner watching a movie.

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I get up out of the recliner and

the ball of my foot goes squish.

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So I had tore it enough that

it bled into the ball of

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EMILY: my foot.

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Wow.

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So for women who don't know, and

there's actually research paper on

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this, they took women with known frozen

shoulder symptoms, women and men, and

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they measured their thyroid labs and.

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Almost all of them had elevated T s H.

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So that hypothyroid component

oftentimes can lead to or go hand

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in hand with frozen shoulder.

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And when you hear of injuries that

kind of come outta nowhere, like

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stepping off a recliner isn't.

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Right, like a big move.

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Or you hear about injuries that are

overuse injuries, like you have an

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injury and you just keep going to pt and

next thing you know, like a year later

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you're still going to physical therapy.

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If you haven't been diagnosed

with hypothyroidism, you wanna

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double check like your clinician.

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In an ideal world, your physical therapist

would be like, Hey, I noticed you're not

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getting better on the normal timeline.

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Ideally, maybe you could reach out to your

primary care to check your thyroid labs,

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cuz hypothyroidism and unresolved overuse

injuries can often go hand in hand.

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So what was your experience

inside thyroid Strong?

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I,

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BARBIE: I was having, I was

struggling with overhead press.

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Um, which I have now, thankfully.

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And, um, on that shoulder that had

been frozen, that is, it's tweaky.

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Um, but you, you helped me through that.

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Yeah.

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And it did not, it did not put

me off of trying the rest of it.

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Cause girl, deadlifts

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EMILY: fun.

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I know.

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So good, right?

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BARBIE: It is good.

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Yeah.

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Okay.

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So I have found, I have found

that I, I like heavy, um, So I,

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I'm really surprised about that.

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I mean, I've toed around feet sacks,

feet backs are 50 pounds, um, for years.

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But they, they wiggle,

um, kind of like a kid.

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And so when you have a solid, I mean,

and I struggled, but when you have

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that solid weight to lift and, and it.

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You know, it's not going anywhere.

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Um, it's, it's a lot more fun.

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And when you know how to brace and how

to stack and how to get yourself, um,

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in the right position, that it doesn't

make your back feel tweaky, then it's

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EMILY: all great.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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The form and is so important to prevent

injury and then learning how to.

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Make your core strong, right?

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Because when are we told that?

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Like how many times have you been

in an exercise class and they're

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like, engage your core, and

you're like, am I doing it right?

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How about now?

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Is this like, like, it's such

an ethereal phrase, right?

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Like what does that mean?

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Yeah.

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Uh, but we keep exactly like

literally step by step how to

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do it inside Throid strong.

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Um, what were some, other than

deadlifting, what were some of your

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favorite things about the program?

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Um,

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BARBIE: I like the way you start slow.

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Um, I love the rehab videos.

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Ooh, I didn't know that.

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Yes, yes.

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I like the rehab videos.

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Um, I like the, um,

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I don't, just the structure

of having, you know, you do,

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you do it three times a week.

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You take your rest days, you

take that extra rest day.

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I had to, I had to wiggle

that around a little bit.

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Um, sometimes, like I would do two

days, fill a little down, take the

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extra rest day in the middle, and

so I like completely trashed your

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calendar.

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EMILY: But I got That's ok.

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You can make it your own.

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That's the whole point

I got to it in the end.

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BARBIE: I think I was a week behind

by the time I finished, but I finished

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and I just didn't feel the pressure.

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I mean, I've had, I've

been in a yoga community.

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Um, where man, you felt a little pressure,

uh, to keep up and to do all the things.

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Mm-hmm.

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And I didn't feel that.

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Within thyroid strong.

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And I enjoyed, I mean, I

asked you all the questions,

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EMILY: um, and I loved answering them.

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I love, I love when

people an ask questions.

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I wish people would ask more questions.

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BARBIE: Well, I don't have

a problem asking questions.

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If I didn't ask questions at

work, I'd never get anything done.

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So it's carried over

into my personal life.

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EMILY: Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Um, And have you noticed, um, changes

in energy in the Menno pot as you

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classic classically described it?

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Uh, I, I'm curious if there are

any changes in thyroid labs.

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Some, most times there's not, but

sometimes I have had a couple women,

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um, have a change in Throid labs, but

I'm just curious for me, I've not really

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BARBIE: had my thyroid labs checked.

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Since I, since I, I mean, right at the

beginning is when my appointment was.

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Yeah.

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So February I got my thyroid labs.

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Yeah.

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I've not had my thyroid labs checked.

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I think it was like March.

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I think I, my appointment was in March,

so that's when they run my thyroid labs.

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But, um, I was one of the weird,

weird patients that, um, my

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t s h never was really high.

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Um, I'm a bad converter.

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Um, so I, that's how mine was

caught, um, with bad allergies.

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And I went to, I went to an allergist

that was also an, um, immunologist and

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which kind of a weird combination, but,

um, he caught it actually from the little

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white spots on my arms, which I don't

even remember what that was called.

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But, um, He saw those on my arms and

said, we can test you for allergies,

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but I'm 95% sure it's your thyroid.

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Thyroid.

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So if it hadn't been for him, I

probably never would've gotten caught.

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EMILY: Wow.

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Smart.

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Yeah, I know.

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Integrative.

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I love it.

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I know.

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Um, have you had any changes in energy?

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Changes in Yes.

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Injuries?

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BARBIE: Yes.

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Um, I go, I go to the chiropractor

about once every week.

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Once every four weeks to

five, six weeks timeframe.

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Yeah.

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Um, I have, my pelvis is bad to twist.

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Um, like up to making one leg

about half a half inch shorter

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than the other one on the regular.

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Yeah.

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You know, from chiropractic

visits, chiropractic visit.

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Um, my publish does not

seem to be shifting as badly

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EMILY: now.

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I love that.

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So more stability around the pelvis?

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Yeah, like every, how annoying is it

every time you go to the chiropractor,

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like, well, this one leg still an

inch short and you're like, again.

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But it's nice to see

a change that Exactly.

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BARBIE: Yes.

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Um, my low back does not

hurt near like it did great.

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Um, it, it's still tweaky cuz I

sit, I have, I'm a desk jockey.

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Yep.

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So, um, That, that, I mean, I think I'm

probably always gonna have that, but I'm

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hoping as I lift more, that will, um, that

will kind of resolve itself even more.

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Um, my shoulder, it's not awesome, but

I don't have as, I don't have as much, I

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have that neck, shoulder chain thing that

goes on and, um, it's not been as bad.

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I've, I've worked on my, my,

uh, what they call that tech.

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EMILY: Oh yeah, the chin

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BARBIE: retraction.

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And yes, I've been working on that for

about 10 years with my chiropractor,

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and I feel like, I feel like lifting,

um, is making me more, more aware of my

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alignment, even more so than yoga did.

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Um, and I, I attribute that to

your little dead bug in the warmup.

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Oh yeah.

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Um, I'll do, I'll just, I lay on

the floor a lot with my dog and

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I'll just, Pop that up and, you

know, roll out the neck and love it.

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And um, so I use that move a lot.

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Even, even if I'm not

warming up or getting ready

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EMILY: to lift.

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Do you find that doing so in the program

you do like a heavy carry where like, I.

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The bells are down to your sides

and it's kind of engaging your lats.

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Have you found, cuz I know when I do

that, sometimes I'll do that like once an

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hour at my desk just to kind of upright

the posture because I find that this

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like chin retraction thing, I always

feel like I'm like choking my thyroid.

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But if I a heavy carry to even

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BARBIE: feel like you're choking.

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Yeah.

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When you get the neck back to where it's

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EMILY: supposed to be.

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But I find that instead of focusing

on the neck, if you focus on kind of

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like the pillar of support under the

neck, which is like your core in your

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shoulder stability, shoulder stability.

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If you do a heavy carry and

then you let the bells go.

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Like you're, you're upright.

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Like you don't have to push your chin

in because you've lifted the posture.

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Ah, yeah.

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So I have

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BARBIE: not tried that, but I'll, yeah.

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I may have to bring

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EMILY: some weights to work.

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Yeah.

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I have a, like a 12 kilo at my desk.

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Just do a little reset every hour.

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Otherwise I would be a hunchback.

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Um,

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BARBIE: uh, exactly.

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That's another thing I want to avoid.

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I don't, I do not want to

be the little old lady with

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EMILY: the hunchback.

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And osteoporosis because of the lack of.

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Bone density and you can have a

higher propensity to, um, compression

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fractures of the body of the vertebra.

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A lot of those women will be

like hunchback because the

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compression of the vertebra.

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So you definitely don't want that.

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No.

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Um, let's talk about the shoulder thing

because instead of like, you know, kind

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of like pushing away the, the elephant

in the room when we lift a weight.

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Even professionals, even if you

worked with one-on-one with a

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trainer, injury is possible.

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Just like you hear people

like, oh, I went to pick up a

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pencil and I threw my back out.

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Right.

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So in the beginning of the program, um,

your shoulder was not feeling great,

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and it was the one that had the frozen

shoulder, so had a history of discomfort.

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Um, what was the move where you're

like, Ooh, this doesn't feel good.

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And then it was, how

did we work through it?

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BARBIE: It was actually the very

first week of, of using weights,

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um, when we were on the floor.

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The, the

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EMILY: press.

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Yeah, the floor press on

the floor press, yeah.

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BARBIE: Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Um, I tweaked it then and so,

um, you helped me through it.

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Um, my chiropractor helped me through it.

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Um, you and my chiropractor

have worked through the same

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training, so that was awesome.

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Um, so, you know, the feet on the

floor engaged the core, press the back.

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Yeah.

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And use your, use your trunk,

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EMILY: not just your arm.

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Yeah, because I think commonly so if for,

just to give women a visual who haven't

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done a floor press, you're on your back.

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Like you said, knees are bent, feet on

the floor and you are holding a weight

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in one hand up towards the sky, and then

you kind of bring your elbow down, tap

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it to the floor or push and what you,

as you're bringing the weight down.

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Sometimes what can happen is like

our ribs will shift or will get like

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wiggly and our core isn't engaged

and it can then kind of like.

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Tweak the shoulder.

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Sometimes the bicep tendon,

sometimes a rotator cuff, and

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there's a way to modify it.

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You could tap your elbow to a yoga

block, not go all the way down to the

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floor, but like really making sure

your, like ribs are, the fronts of

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your ribs are like locked down and

you're breathing, embracing properly.

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Um, and so I think.

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The, the, the reason I wanna mention

this is because a lot of women, if they

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tweak anything, will be like, I'm done.

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I'm outta here.

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Like, I wanna refund.

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I'm overweight lifting, I'm

going back to my Iyengar yoga.

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I can't

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BARBIE: You get that?

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I can't do it.

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EMILY: Mindset.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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But you persevered.

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Yes.

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BARBIE: Right, because I'm, I'm stubborn.

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I was, I'm a

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EMILY: Taurus.

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I'm stubborn.

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I'm a Capricorn, so

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BARBIE: we

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EMILY: DeLong in.

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Yeah.

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But, um, was there anything, I mean,

obviously you worked with the chiropractor

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in person and we touched base, um,

which is always nice to kind of like.

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Get feedback and to ask lots of questions.

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And I love questions cuz

you know I put the video up.

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Yeah, you put the video up and

you know, I'm sure every single

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woman in that group is like, oh,

I learned something new from that.

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But I think it's important for women

to not shy away from soreness, to

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not shy away from like maybe tweaking

something and just throw everything out.

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That there's always a modification.

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To like regress, to make it

easier to modify, to also

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make it harder i's no shame.

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Yeah.

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There's no shame.

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Shame than that.

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Yeah.

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Cause I think sometimes when people

injure themselves it creates this

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like fight or flight response where

they're like, freeze or you know,

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they're scared to go back to it.

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But I think what the

important thing is that you.

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Kept with it.

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You persevered, you kept going,

and now you love deadlifts.

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So I do.

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And you don't have as much back

pain and the shoulder intensity

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and frequency isn't as much.

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So all of those things, I think

in, in a dream world, we would

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want our workout or rehab to just,

we have zero pain the next day.

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Right.

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But really it's like what?

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If you're tracking, okay, today my neck

pain's an eight outta 10, and you go

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through the weeks, you're like, oh, well

now my pain is like a three outta 10.

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Like, that's a win.

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That's over 50% reduction in symptoms.

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Sometimes I think people

are like, I want zero.

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Like I wanna just be superhuman.

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And it's like it takes work and time

to become superhuman and to thrive.

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Well,

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BARBIE: and and you've also,

you know, you're, you're giving

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up 30 minutes of your life.

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A day or a workout.

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I mean, it's not like I had to

drive to the gym because I did

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invest in some kettle bells and

I didn't buy the expensive ones.

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I mean, I went to

Walmart for my first two.

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Yeah, they didn't have two of the

same size, so I bought two different

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sizes and I made it work Perfect.

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And then, you know, the next

size up, I got off of Amazon.

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So it's, it's not like I have a great big

collection, but, um, I'll probably add to

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EMILY: add to it, you have a

16 kilo I do now, which is 35

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BARBIE: pounds.

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Yes.

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That was the one I got off of Amazon.

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And now I have the, what is

the 50, what is the 50 pound?

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I get my kilos

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EMILY: and pounds.

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Oh.

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Uh, it's like 24 kilos I think.

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Yeah,

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BARBIE: I have, I have, uh, I

have that one as my, that's my

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EMILY: goal weight.

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Awesome.

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I love it.

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Um, what would you tell the

woman who's like on the fence?

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They're like, I don't know about this.

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BARBIE: I say, do it.

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I, uh, I have no regrets at all.

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Um, once I get thyroid strong

paid off, because I went the

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credit card route because.

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I didn't w I didn't wanna w

wishy wash until the next round.

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I wanted to do it ne, you know, right now.

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Yeah.

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So once I get that paid off, I'm going for

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EMILY: stay strong.

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Awesome.

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So stay strong.

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For women who don't know is the membership

and it's just a continuation videos.

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Guest experts with

functional medicine talks.

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Um, And there's payment plans.

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There's, you could pay in full.

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There's a three pay.

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There's bonuses inside function inside

thyroid strong with these talks,

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with functional medicine doctors.

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Some women never even watch them.

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Um, I was curious, did you watch them?

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Did you,

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BARBIE: did I watched.

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Um, I did, I watched the ones that you did

while we were going through the program.

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Oh, cool.

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Yeah, but I have not, I've not

managed to go backwards Yeah.

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Yet, but I have a couple other

programs going on at the same

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time, so, Um, but I do, I listen to

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EMILY: the podcast.

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Oh, thank you.

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Awesome.

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Um, well, Barbie, thank you so much.

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I know it's Friday before Memorial Day.

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You probably wanna get home, but

thank you so much for sharing your

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story, your journey, just like

your honesty and your authenticity.

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I really love it.

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So thank you.

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Well thank you for thyroid strong.

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Ah, yeah, I mean I feel like

there was a need that needed to

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get filled cuz no one's talking

about strength and Hashimotos.

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And I think just going on my own

journey and helping women in the

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clinic and, um, people reaching out

that were outside New York and I was

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like, well you could come to the clinic

in New York or let's make a program.

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So

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BARBIE: yeah.

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I'm glad you made the program.

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Yeah, thanks Barbie.

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I think it's going to, um, help.

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Me more and more to stabilize the,

the weird, the weird things in my

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EMILY: body.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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I mean, that's the hope, right?

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I mean, I was on the same journey,

like I was a yoga instructor.

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I taught yoga.

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I went to yoga, traveled the world, like

went to Greece and Costa Rica and yoga

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retreats, and I was like, I feel terrible.

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Like why am I, why?

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Why does this happen?

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Like my back hurts my.

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Groin, like one hip felt

pinched all the time.

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And I was like, I can't be a

chiropractor who's in pain all the time.

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This is like not a good, a

good business card right here.

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Um, and I

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BARBIE: think we had one, we had one

instructor in our small community who

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really focused on, I, I don't know what

her style was, but it was kick your butt.

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Yoga.

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Mm-hmm.

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I mean, it, it, she was a flow and.

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But she put in lots of core, she was a

runner, so she was working herself on the

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things that, you know, a, a runner needs.

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Yeah.

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Which was helping me.

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Um, I was pro, I was in the best

physical shape of my life when

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I was going to her yoga classes.

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Wow.

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Um, but she quit teaching yoga

to focus on distance running.

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And so I went back to other

styles of yoga that didn't, that

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wasn't that strength focused.

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Yeah, and that's when I

started with the injury.

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I mean, I would tweak

that shoulder in chatter.

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I would mm-hmm.

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Have problems with the low back.

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And so I knew in my mind in

there, there was a niggle.

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That's when the niggle started, that

I needed more strength in my life.

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EMILY: Yeah.

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What a great self-observation, right?

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How many people can like, tie those

two things together from like,

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what they're physically doing to

how they're feeling in their body?

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Um, I, I'm gonna tell you a quick story.

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I had a hamstring injury on my left,

and it was the leg that I could do the

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splits and I could go deeper in triangle.

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And, you know, the ego pushes and

we're like, oh, that's a good side.

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Mm-hmm.

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We'll just go deeper.

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And I would get.

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A, um, like a massage technique called

active release technique every week.

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A lot of chiropractors do

it for a year and a half.

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And I was like, okay, this

is like, this is what it is.

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And, um, did not get better.

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And it was like $200 a session and

I was like, this is, this is insane.

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And I did two weeks of strength training

and it totally like the pain went away and

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it was because the muscle was lengthened

and weak and needed to get that strength.

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So, I think for a lot of women, if

whatever you're doing is not working,

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don't keep beating the dead horse.

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Like try something different and pivot.

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So yeah, this is, this is my pivot.

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This is a pivot.

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Um, Barbie, this is good.

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Thank you so much.

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Um, it was so wonderful to have you

on and have a wonderful weekend.

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Thank you.

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You too.

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Thank you.