Lisa Kenning, CEO of Matrix Automation, alongside her powerhouse team: Don Rentz, Greg Millinger, and special guest Scott Walberg.

Lisa shares her journey from helping her dad at age 10 to leading a company at the forefront of digital transformation in manufacturing. Together, the group dives into the importance of mentorship, the legacy of family-run businesses, and how lean principles and traceability tech have helped manufacturers achieve near-zero defect rates—even in highly complex, regulated environments.

What We Cover:

• Lisa’s early days at Matrix and the values instilled by her father
• Why mentorship—both formal and informal—matters, especially for women in manufacturing
• How Matrix Automation helps manufacturers reduce defects and improve traceability
• Real-world success stories from automotive and medical device manufacturing
• Why lean principles apply across all industries—from bourbon to wheelchairs
• The hidden costs of waiting too long to invest in continuous improvement
• Empowering frontline operators through smarter systems and data
• Learning across generations: Mahjong, magnetism, and mental health

Featured Guests:

• Lisa Kenning, CEO, Matrix Automation
• Don Rentz, General Manager, Matrix Automation
• Greg Millinger, Technologist & Product Architect
• Scott Walberg, President, Lean Innovation, LLC

💡 Key Quotes:

“We didn’t buy an off-the-shelf system. We partnered with Matrix and created something custom. That’s why it worked.” – Scott Walberg

“My dad started this company to serve the customer better. That value still drives everything we do.” – Lisa Kenning

“Whether you're building 1,200 units or 100, the tools are the same. Lean is universal.” – Don Rentz

Lori hyvee, Chris Harrington

and Aaron Courtney.

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Three Broads bringing new

stories and strategies,

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exploring manufacturing topics.

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That challenge the status quo while

laying the foundations for future success.

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Together with special guests,

they'll celebrate what's working

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and unpack what is not so you

can learn, grow, and succeed.

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You wanna learn more about your host?

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Make sure to listen to episode one.

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Kris Harrington: All right.

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welcome everybody Ladies, have you

ever been mentored or been a mentor?

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Lori Highby: yes.

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Tell me

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Kris Harrington: about it.

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Lori Highby: Sure.

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I've been mentored through podcasts,

books I've read, and just having

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conversations with people that

I have a lot of respect with.

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I've never been in a formal mentorship

but I've been a formal mentor,

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through a number of organizations.

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in Milwaukee, there's Temple Milwaukee,

and I'm assigned a mentee every year.

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and I love doing that.

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I love, love, love doing that.

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And I did one through the Green

Bay Packers mentor program

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So I did that.

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they connected me with another business

owner, and I was mentoring her.

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a few years ago.

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we still stay in touch and meet up.

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that's been a great experience.

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Oh, I love that.

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That's so

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Erin Courtney: cool.

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I can see you being

amazing at that, Laurie.

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Thank you.

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I really would like to.

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an organization I'm working with right

now, we have assigned mentors internally.

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it's been fun because we're shadowing

one another and it's nice to share the

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nitty gritty with, somebody you work with.

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Usually it's just outcomes, outcomes,

outcomes, but here's my process.

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learning from her as well.

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I'm glad you asked the question, but

why'd you ask the question, Chris?

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Kris Harrington: Well, you know, our

friend Nicole Donnelly, that does mm-hmm.

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The Hello Moxie podcast.

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Yeah.

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She is starting a formal

mentor program for women.

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she was telling me about it and it

got me thinking about mentoring,

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women having female mentors.

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when I was, increasing in my

career, I never had a female mentor.

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not because I didn't want one, but

there weren't a lot of women in the

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roles I was seeking When I asked, for

mentorship, it was all males in the role.

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I looked up to a lot of women and I

certainly learned from a lot of women,

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but I've had the chance to mentor

women, there's so much value for those

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of us that are in the tech space, for

those of us that are in manufacturing.

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Just because they're, you know, we're

trying to increase the number of women

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that we see in both manufacturing and

tech, and I think women learning, and

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especially young women learning from

other women, why we find these industries

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so exciting can be really valuable.

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Thank you Alright, question.

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Let's, introduce our guest today.

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We have Lisa Kenning here with us, as

the CEO of Matrix Automation, founded by

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her father, Lisa Kenning grew up in the

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Automation industry,

Starting with cleaning tasks.

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She began visiting manufacturing

customers to understand their needs.

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Lisa's passion for automation drives

her to help manufacturers optimize

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operations, comply with regulations,

and implement safety critical strategies

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Traceability and genealogy.

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Lisa's team at Matrix is committed to

digital transformation and Industry 4.0,

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delivering solutions such as

paperless manufacturing, electronic

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work instructions, and digital

lean for smarter factories.

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So Lisa, welcome to the show.

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Lisa Kenning: Thank you for the warm

welcome and I love the discussion that you

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girls kick this off with, with mentoring.

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I, I have, two people here from Matrix and

I feel like they are not woman mentors,

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but they are two tremendous mentors to me.

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And, it, yeah, I'm very

lucky to have them.

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Kris Harrington: Well, excellent.

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We're glad you have them.

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it would be great if you gave

them an opportunity to introduce

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themselves to our audience

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my name is Don Rentz and I've

been with Matrix Automation for 27

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years and 10 months I have a 28th

anniversary coming up in June.

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Excuse me.

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Lisa Kenning: Yay.

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I'm a general manager at Matrix and,

I've, you know, done a lot of different

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job functions, you know, as I've,

I've been working here, obviously I've

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been here for a long time, and, I,

I help in a bunch of different ways.

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up to and including sometimes becoming

the project manager It depends on

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what kind of resources are needed.

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Kris Harrington: Well,

nice to meet you, Don.

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Thank you,

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Kris Harrington: Greg.

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Greg Milinger: Hey.

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my name's Greg Millinger and,

kinda unique story because I

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started at Matrix 1993 and I.

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Built the production wear platform

that they still use today.

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I was the chief architect

at the time, I left Matrix.

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Then after about eight years I

went to Deloitte, I went to general

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Electric where I became the product

manager for their next generation MES.

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I stayed there for an awful long time and.

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Tata Consulting then Maverick for years.

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We got a acquired by Rockwell,

where I was the Vice President of

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Enterprise Integration there, and then

I retired and then I came back again.

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So I'm back to.

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You know, a very long span of, of missing,

and I'm still a technologist, but I

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also have run very large businesses.

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Kris Harrington: Oh, excellent.

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Nice to meet you, Greg.

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Greg Milinger: Nice to meet you all.

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Kris Harrington: All Scott.

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Scott.

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Hello.

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so my name's Scott Walberg and I

am currently the president of Lean

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Innovation, LLC, consulting company for

any manufacturing environment because

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what we're about to talk about today

really applies to all industries.

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I was a customer, partner with

Matrix automation for 21 years.

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Enjoyed great success

because of that partnership.

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But, a little more about me.

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Even though I've retired with 38 years

in the automotive industry, moved into

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the bourbon industry built bridges,

drilled oil in Texas, built jails and

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prisons and spent spare time selling

cars for large dealerships in Michigan.

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Finding that lean manufacturing,

good manufacturing practices

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apply to any and all industries.

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No one is, unique when it

comes to the application of the

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tools we'll talk about today.

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Thanks for having me.

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Kris Harrington: Nice to meet you.

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Thank you for that introduction I'm

curious, Lisa, Can you tell us a

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little bit about Matrix automation,

what you do for your customers?

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there was a little bit in your

bio, but kind of expand on, on

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what you guys are all doing.

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Lisa Kenning: Yes, thank you.

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I'm excited to talk about this.

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no conversation about Matrix.

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Can start without talking about my dad.

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was born in 1947.

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He, was the oldest of 11 and they

had a farm in the center of our town.

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He, It.

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He was a great son, great big brother.

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He, you know, took care of everybody.

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He, went into the army and then

eventually Cleveland State to get

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his electrical engineering degree.

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And about 10 years later,

maybe a little less.

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in 1983, he started Matrix Automation.

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And the reason he started Matrix

Automation was because he believed that

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there were better ways to serve customers.

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And that's the really important

part of this, is that.

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That was the most important thing to him

then, and it's continued to be, that's

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the driving force behind everything we do.

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And it's behind every

discussion, every decision.

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It always is about the customers, what is

best for them, what are their needs, and

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every customer has such unique needs and.

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the stakes are high, so you have

to, understand and meet those needs.

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in the beginning we, were doing PLCs and,

started in, actually our, our biggest

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customer in the beginning was Norton

and we were doing nors and paint lines.

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And we expanded into automotive

and steel mills, milling industry.

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And, and, and it was really fun for me

to watch the evolution of the company.

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I was 10 years old when he started the

business, and my dad loved what he did,

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so he was always talking about it with me.

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He was always on the

phone with customers with.

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Employees.

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I was always around for

those conversations.

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We were at the office where I got my

start, where I was cleaning the office,

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cleaning the bathrooms, and leaving notes

for employees so that they would have like

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cute little notes to see Monday morning.

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as far as what we do now, I'd love

to toss that over to Don and Greg.

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Sure.

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I think what'd be good for

you to understand is what our

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typical customer looks like.

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that'll help you understand

why we do what we do.

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an ideal customer for Matrix

deals with mixed model assembly.

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they might be assembling, a Cadillac,

SUVA, you know that some of 'em

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are electric and some of 'em are,

are internal combustion, right?

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Mm-hmm.

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And they're being built

on an assembly line.

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And each one coming at the,

the operator is different and

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their work content is different.

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So that's, that's one,

one of the main things.

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What bring, what comes with

that is high complexity.

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if you're building mixed model and you

know, your car, and my car might both be

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Cadillacs, but yours is all tricked out.

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Mine might not be.

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So the work content is, it varies in

each one of the stations as it goes.

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So high complexity is a big part.

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And another one that's.

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You know, that's, is more, if it's

in a regulated industry, that that's

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even more of a sweet spot for us.

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that's why we deal a lot with

automotive with the Tread Act,

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they're big on traceability.

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They wanna know if an airbag.

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Explodes.

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You know what, you know

what, why did it explode?

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And they'll come back to our customers

and they'll ask for, well, was the

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torque bag torqued successfully?

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What were the torques?

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it's always the lawyers coming

back to get that information.

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so our customers have to have

that information available.

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one of the key things that our system

provides is that, you know, we capture

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data live in every one of those assembly

steps and, you know, it's archived.

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And Scott will tell you we

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the very first production war system he

would tell you that data is very useful.

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In fact, the prior plant manager.

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was in a meeting and someone

asked him, what's the biggest

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benefit from production wear?

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He said, it keeps me

off the hot seat at gm

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Lisa Kenning: because

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I, I'd go in there with the data and

they would, you know, they, they got

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to the point where they stopped calling

'em into the meetings when there was

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a, a quality spill our systems provide

operators with everything they need.

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one key thing is, I say operators

because there's a lot, you know,

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there people might think we do,

robotics and stuff like that.

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We really don't.

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I mean, ours, our, our stations are

manual or semi-manual if there are

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robots, production typically talks

to them to tell them what product

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they have so they can do their thing.

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Mm-hmm.

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So, at the end of the day

customers get is, I, I think

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they get empowered operators.

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Scott, you can speak more to what it

did for you as one of our customers.

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Sure Don, I'd love to talk about that.

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you triggered a lot of thoughts, My

experience with Matrix started back in,

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I guess, that 2000, 2001 range where

our customer had approached us to do

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something we've never done before.

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They've never farmed it out before.

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It was, assembly of very

complex, powertrains and

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suspension modules, and, they.

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Farm that out because internally they

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per million, which measures defects.

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they wanted a zero defect solution.

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Rumor had it, we could provide that

the reality is there's a lot of

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failure modes in putting together

a a V eight, a V six a, a four

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cylinder superchargers, twin turbos.

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The complexity is off the map every

one on the assembly line is different.

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we're building custom.

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modules for a customer in a

luxury vehicle division, it's

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understandable why they wanted zero

defects, but providing that without.

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An MES system.

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and that's what we partnered with

Matrix to put together was a system

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that would not allow a defect to pass

from one workstation on the assembly

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line, a hundred stations down, and

provide a zero defect solution that

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module would go to the customer.

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And so the, the, the commercial is the

results after 21 years of doing such a

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thing resulted in no warranty issues.

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From our line, from our

workmanship, no recalls.

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All those things you see on

television and hear daily about

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defects slipping through to the end

customer, the person buying the car.

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we never had any of those for 21 years.

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previously 12 to 1400 defects

was the norm, partnering with

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Matrix we had a metric of five

parts per million for 21 years.

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And within that 21 years, we actually

had a span of really close to five.

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We just came short of five years with

zero defects coming off the line, which

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is absolutely unheard of in the industry.

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Kris Harrington: That's impressive.

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And I, I know in the automotive

world, obviously as you mentioned,

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you are handling a lot of complexity.

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Typically there are high volumes as well.

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it.

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Are these programs that you're, you're

instilling in, in helping operators

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with Empower, the empowering them.

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Are they also useful for

organizations that may not have the

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volumes of the automotive world?

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Can you speak to that a little

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yeah, I can address that when you get

outside of automotive, one of the other,

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regulatory agencies involved in our

systems is the FDA, we deal with, we

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have no, I don't know, 10, 12, plants

that assemble electric wheelchairs.

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Right.

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They had the same kind of requirements.

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they're trying to achieve

the same goals as Scott did.

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And, and you know, I was, we were

just talking to one a couple weeks

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ago, and he said they went from,

they went from a defect rate of like.

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Five, 10 thousands when they ended

up, when they started out it was like

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20% of the product that went off their

line had some type of an issue with it

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that had to be dealt with in the field.

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Now they, they're saving grace.

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Is that typically those wheelchairs

don't go directly to the customer,

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They go through because

they're, typically.

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funded by Medicare, Medicaid,

they go to a dealer.

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that panels their product

and catch a lot there.

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they got it down to, 5:00

PM which is outstanding.

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the volumes there might have

complexity, but are closer to a

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hundred units per day at Scotch plant

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vehicles a day.

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it's smaller, but uses the same

tools and that's the important thing.

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it can cross multiple, whether you're

a small or a large manufacturer.

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there's room for it.

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Erin Courtney: That's interesting.

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the same approach applies regardless of

the size of your client it takes me back

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to what you were saying, Lisa, about

your dad's priority was customer service.

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And that can be.

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Hard to achieve both, right?

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excellence and the customer might

want something that doesn't align

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with your ideas for excellence.

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How do you manage, you know, those

kinds of situations where your customer

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first, but you might know better than

they do or differently than they do.

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How do you handle that?

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Lisa Kenning: Most customers look

to us to, have a, I mean, we have

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a lot of expertise in our team, so

I really don't think that that has

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been a big issue because there are

people, in a lot of cases that we

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have worked with for many, many years.

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So, luckily that hasn't been a huge.

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Issue.

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I, I really do feel like they

lean on us to give them advice.

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Erin Courtney: Mm-hmm.

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So it sounds like you're establishing

trust first your customers are more

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likely to listen to Don and Craig when

they say, we gotta do it this way.

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I love how you started with the story

of your dad and his dedication to

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the company bringing his kids in when

they're so young to be a part of that.

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It seems like that kind of

culture would just become sort

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of obvious to the customer.

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And Scott, speaking from your

experience, did you get that

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sense when working with Matrix

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It did because of their

willingness to listen.

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we didn't buy an off the shelf system.

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We partnered with them and

customized a system our team

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needed, when we collaborated, we

came up with something special.

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And that was the beauty of the

relationship, we worked together so

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well and they provided that solution.

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Lori Highby: I wanna go back to,

your opening question, Chris,

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about, mentorship and, advocacy for

women in the manufacturing space.

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Lisa, I'm curious from you, but I'd

love to hear from everyone today.

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you know, what, what advice would you

have for girls, young women that are

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interested or, in manufacturing space

and how to enter and, and find a mentor?

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That's a

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Lisa Kenning: really good question.

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Yeah.

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I, I think back to the early days, in the

company, and I kind of have a funny story

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that, you know, the very first matrix

automation employee, is retired, but.

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Kind of retired, still works with us.

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he likes to joke about when I'd

call in and say, is my dad, there.

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he'd say, well, there's

a lot of daddies here.

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Which one are you looking for?

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it really shapes things

for you as a girl when.

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You just see men everywhere, I

couldn't see myself in that world.

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I felt more like an outsider,

and girls are still seeing that.

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it's much better today.

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my biggest piece of advice is just to ask

anyone you feel a connection to, even if

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you don't know them, just lean into that

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I have never met any woman in the industry

that is not excited to answer a question.

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Or connect you to someone

who can help or mentor you.

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those resources are there.

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as a woman, we're excited

to see someone interested.

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In manufacturing and engineering,

connect, email, call.

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Kris Harrington: I, I love that.

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And I,

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Lisa Kenning: I, yes.

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And I have, one of my daughters is

thinking about, career in engineering.

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She is a junior in high school and she.

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Went to Ohio State, last month, the

girls were excited to talk to her.

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So that's an example of what's

going on in the industry.

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she came home so excited Oh my

gosh, mom, they're all so nice.

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they were so excited to

show me their projects.

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Mm-hmm.

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And, mm-hmm.

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Tell me about the program and the, the

instructors were very excited to talk

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to her, my advice don't be scared, just

ask questions and, and you're going

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to find that every, woman you talk to

is just super excited to give back.

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Kris Harrington: Yeah, I love that.

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I would also say there are many

supportive men if there isn't

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a woman to ask, ask the men.

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most feel honored and delighted to work

with you So, I would encourage everybody.

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thank you for that, Lisa.

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this is great.

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learning about your organization and

how you started the story of your

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dad sounds like, an American business

story, There are many organizations

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out there, and I really think there

are a lot of listeners that come from

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organizations just like you described.

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We're in such interesting times.

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I think automation is a

really important topic.

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I hope people have learned something

here, I know we just scratched the

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surface, so I hope they reach out to

you to learn more because what you

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are doing can apply in many areas.

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thank you all for sharing.

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At this time I'm just gonna

move into our, you know, I just

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learned that and I'm curious.

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Laurie, what did you just learn?

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Lori Highby: Oh, it's AI related.

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Get ready for it.

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Kris Harrington: Tell us,

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Lori Highby: There's two things.

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it's really fascinating the

B-B-B-B-B-C Maestro, similar to

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the masterclass programs here,

you know, that organization.

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they launched, a writing course taught by.

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The mystery writer who I

absolutely adore, Agatha Christie.

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So they basically like built the

whole AI model to teach this course.

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Oh, isn't that, it's creepy and

fascinating at the same time.

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Right.

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And I, on the same note

of like deceased people.

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A little morbid.

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in Arizona there was a sentencing and

an AI version created of the victim,

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a video created of the victim talking

about his point of view with regards

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to the sentencing what of his murder.

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Yes, it actually happened.

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It's fascinating and creepy.

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So there's this whole thing now

called the rise of the Dead Bots,

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where people are basically taking.

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People that have deceased and

leveraging AI to like bring them

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back to life, Fascinating and creepy

But the AI machine is not stopping.

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Kris Harrington: That is not

a use case I thought about

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Lori Highby: Interesting.

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Aaron, What have you just learned?

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Erin Courtney: I am listening to

the most fascinating book right now.

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It's called Strangers to

Ourselves by Rachel Aviv.

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sort of psychopharmacology

and mental health and mental

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illness is really interesting.

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And one of the things that

I learned listening to the

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book was that sort of the.

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Genesis really of, antidepressants

was when they were administering

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this one medication that they

thought might work for tuberculosis.

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And so they gave this medication to

people in a TB ward and they were like.

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They're dancing, they're happy.

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Like these are usually very

depressing places and these

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people are so, you know, joyful.

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and so one of the physicians that

was exposed to this information began

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to, experiment with it, with some of

his, clients that were suffering from

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depression and, had some success.

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It gets very complicated from there.

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Very complicated story.

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but I thought that was so interesting.

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Kris Harrington: Yeah.

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Erin Courtney: Yes.

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Kris Harrington: Cool.

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Very cool.

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What about you all?

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Well, I'm gonna ask Lisa, since

you are a longtime listener of

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our show, what did you just learn?

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Lisa Kenning: Well, what I have been

learning and I'm super excited about is

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playing Mahjong, which is something I

was interested in for several years and

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was hopeful I'd be able to join a group

or find someone who could teach me.

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And for the last year, I, have been

playing in three different groups.

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So one of them is.

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A group, a big group of my friends, so

peers that are about my age and there

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were a couple of their mothers who took

many months teaching us how to play.

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And then there's another group,

that I play with my, husband's

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mom and her sisters, and I call

that Mahjong with the aunties.

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And then the third is a club of women

who are mostly in their eighties.

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And I struggle to keep up with

them because they think so fast

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and they're so competitive.

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Oh, how fun.

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I just, I love it.

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I, I am still learning.

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It's very complicated.

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There are so many rules and every

single time we play, we're like, oh my

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gosh, I didn't know about that role.

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it's been a lot of fun

and good brain activity.

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It keeps us sharp and, the, you know,

social connections, especially to

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other women, I love the different.

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ages and diverse backgrounds, and it's

like, it just brings us all together.

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Kris Harrington: Oh, that's fun.

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Are there groups all over

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Lisa Kenning: Yes.

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it's gaining popularity.

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I'm hearing about more

people learning how to play.

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Okay.

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Erin Courtney: Fun.

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Oh, that is so cool.

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I just, I love that you're doing that

with three mentor groups going, right?

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You're, you're gaining knowledge, not just

about Mahjong, but so many other, parts

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of life probably from these, these ladies.

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that's wonderful.

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Lisa Kenning: Absolutely.

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I feel like that goes along with

our discussion about mentoring.

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Mm-hmm.

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Because it really is kind of like a

good example of that us, you know,

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woman helping women and the younger

generations wanting to learn and you

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know, so I've started teaching my

daughters and their friends this summer

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you guys are gonna, really spend time

with me and learn how to play this.

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So, yeah, it's been great.

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Kris Harrington: Oh, that'll be great.

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For memories.

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Don, what have you just learned?

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Well, I don't know.

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I Don't know how to play

Marjon, but my wife does with

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a big group down in Florida.

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Oh, cool.

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well, you know, just learned,

is three months just enough?

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Kris Harrington: Yes, just enough.

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I think in the intro I mentioned

that, besides being general manager.

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I'm really an account manager

more often than not, and thought

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I was pretty good at sales.

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we ended up hiring, you know,

we hired a, a truce, what we

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called a hunter salesperson.

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I've been spending a lot of time

with him in front of customers and

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he has taught me so much in the, you

know, we've only started going out

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on calls for about the last month.

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Mm.

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But I, you know, he is just,

he has, he is just dialed in.

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and he is really helping me, you

know, gain confidence I wasn't used

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to working at, you know, the VP levels

and the C level, and that's where

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he starts and works his way down,

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Offering that, you can never be

too old to learn something that

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can help you out in your career.

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Kris Harrington: Oh yeah.

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That's right.

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That's right.

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So true, can you name one skill that

he has or that was different for you?

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I'm curious When you're with a good

salesperson, it's almost amazing.

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I'm curious what the skill is.

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you know, I don't know if

I could pinpoint one thing.

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he's just so confident and

always asks the right questions.

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Kris Harrington: there you go.

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I have a long way to go.

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I mean, I'm still a understudy, but,

maybe we'll have a chat someday in the

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future and I'll give you a better answer

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Kris Harrington: Hey.

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asking the right questions and

good questions I think is a

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good answer to that for sure.

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Totally.

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And not

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be, not be afraid to ask the question.

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that's right.

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When you think you know

the answer, so anyway.

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Kris Harrington: Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Greg, how about you?

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Is there something you just

learned that you'd like to share?

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I.

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Greg Milinger: Well, it's kinda off

topic, but it, when I retired, I started

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getting really fascinated by electro mag

magnetism and just magnetism in general.

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You know, I never studied that.

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I was reading, about quantum

mechanics and all that.

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And then I run across something

that was really interesting where,

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you know, we're all made of atoms.

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inside an atom, there is a

tremendous amount of empty space

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and like our bodies, our 99.99999

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empty space.

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Is that fascinating?

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Whoa.

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Yes.

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We're all just

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Erin Courtney: AI of ourselves.

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Now, this,

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Greg Milinger: this is, this was even

more interesting if you took all of the

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empty space out of all of us, it would

fit into the volume of a sugar cube.

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can you believe that?

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Look it up.

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It'll blow you away.

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Erin Courtney: makes you scratch your head

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Greg Milinger: doesn't it?

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Erin Courtney: look

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Greg Milinger: it up on the internet.

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I do that.

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it'll just blow you away when

you start reading about it.

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Give us a book to read on that

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Greg Milinger: the

internet is a great source.

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because there's different viewpoints

take a look at it sometime.

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most of the books I recommend would

put you to sleep in two minutes.

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Kris Harrington: sometimes

I need those books, so

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it would work.

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Scott.

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what is something you just learned?

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It's huge, but obvious on

a scale of measurement.

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As a consultant, there's this

scale from fat and happy profits

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to anorexic and unhappy profits.

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And when you talk about, lean

manufacturing, continuous improvement,

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MES systems, nobody knows what they

are when they're fat and happy,

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but when they start to get lean.

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then that's when they really wanna do

all the right things, they don't realize

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all the money they left on the table

when they were fat and happy, they

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could have been fatter and happier.

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my big learning is don't wait.

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Continuous improvement.

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And the tools we talk about should be

in place everywhere at any time, not

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just when you're in survival mode.

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that's it.

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Kris Harrington: Drop the mic on.

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Continuous improvement Thank you, Scott.

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That's great.

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this has been wonderful.

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Lisa, if people wanna connect

with you and the rest of the

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team where's the best place

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Lisa Kenning: LinkedIn is the best spot.

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Kris Harrington: Alright.

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Beautiful.

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thank you all for joining us have

a fantastic day, and for everybody

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listening, go out and make something.

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Lisa Kenning: Thank you.

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