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Re-wilding learning and learners (ft. John Watkins, Ed.D)
Episode 1918th March 2022 • Coconut Thinking • Benjamin Freud, Ph.D.
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In this episode, I speak with John Watkins. John has over thirty years experience in consulting, coaching, designing, facilitating, researching, and evaluating in school and school district improvement efforts. Currently, he is Co-Director with Jal Mehta, Professor at Harvard, of the Deeper Learning Dozen, creating a community of practice for superintendents who are committed to the transformation of their districts to support equitable access to deeper learning. In this conversation, we discuss:

  • Creating learning environments based on biodiversity, replicating nature to bring out our uniqueness and strengths;
  • How learning is an embodied experience that requires action to be deep, because without action, learning dissipates;


  • Ways we can go beyond the system we know, beyond school to liberate possibilities for learning as individuals and as a collective.


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