What would happen to both your physical and mental states if you were laid off three times from various jobs you held? Do you think you would be able to overcome the waves of negativity resulting from that, which would stymie your grown in various areas of your life? What if you are able to shift your mindset, bypass the bad messaging, and find ways to connect with meaningful people to get "a leg up" on the competition? Today's guest, Kaneshi Hart, exemplifies and embodies all of these traits and shares her intimate story of how she was able to start interviewing coaches making six- and seven-figure businesses, and how that influence has helped her to start her own business model. In Part 1, we explore her background story and how that has propelled her into this world, and how being able to move forward to stand on your beliefs can create empowering moments. This sets up the exciting Part 2 that will be sure to leave you with many opportunities to magnify your personal and professional self worth in a variety of different ways.

Guest Bio

Kaneshi is a Jesus loving, home inhabiting, businesswoman who does and enjoys a variety of things. In the business world, she hosts the Coach UP podcast where she interviews six and seven figure coaches about how they built their businesses. She also connects businesses looking for places to advertise with podcasts who have the audiences those businesses want to target. Kaneshi is also a budding trader in the stock market and believes everyone needs to know how to extract money at any time from this multi-trillion dollar industry.

Kaneshi arrived at the wonderful world of podcasting after spending almost 20 years in corporate America where she led and coached high performance teams and was responsible for over 600 employees and over $300M in revenue generation in the course of her work.

But now, on the other side of corporate life, she is enjoying helping other people build their businesses through the power of connection and conversation.

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Intro/Outro By: Michael Dugan, Podcast Host: Voice4Chefs

Welcome to the podcast where relationships, confidence, and

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determination all converge into

an amazing, heartfelt experience.

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This is Speaking From The Heart.

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Joshua: Welcome back to episode number 96

of Speaking From The Heart, and today's

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episode is going to be another two part

version in which I had the opportunity

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to interview Kaneshi Hart, and when I

say the opportunity, I mean I was blessed

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to meet this wonderful young lady.

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Kaneshi is a Jesus loving, home

inhabiting businesswoman who does

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and enjoys a variety of things.

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In the business world, she hosts the

Coach UP podcast, where she interviews

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six and seven figure coaches about

how they built their businesses.

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She also connects businesses

looking for places to advertise

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with podcasts who have the audiences

those businesses want to target.

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Kaneshi is also a budding trader in the

stock market, and believes everyone needs

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to know how to extract money at any time

from this multi trillion dollar industry.

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Kaneshi arrived at the wonderful world

of podcasting after spending almost 20

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years in corporate America, where she led

and coached high performance teams, and

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was responsible for over 600 employees

and over 300 million dollars in revenue

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generation in the course of her work, but

now, on the other side of the corporate

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life, she's enjoying helping other

people build their businesses through

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the power of connection and conversation.

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You know, there's been a lot of people on

my show that have graced me with not only

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their awesome stories, their wonderful

business models, and the people that have

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made up those stories have some unique

twists and turns in their life, but as

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soon as I knew that Kaneshi was going

to flip the script on me, the podcast

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host of Speaking From the Heart, I knew

that there was going to be something a

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little bit special about this young lady,

and how she's been able to help so many

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different people throughout her young

career, and how she continues to be a

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high performer no matter where she goes.

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What makes part one so interesting to me

is that it isn't just about what she had

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to share with all of us, myself included,

about what she's been able to achieve

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as a result of all these setbacks that

she's had, which she talks about in part

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one, but she's been able to get to the

other side of that, and she stands on a

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rock that I have been looking for for so

long in my life, and I think I finally

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found what that rock is that I needed to

have so that I had some stable ground.

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No matter what kind of bad messaging

you might get in your life, no matter

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what kind of bad things that might

happen, it's about changing your mindset

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so that you're not stuck in the same

two out of 10 ways that oftentimes

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corporate America puts us through, and

I think Kaneshi is one of those models

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of people that will stand on a rock far

greater than anybody else, because of

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her trepidation and her willingness to

just keep pushing forward, regardless of

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any setbacks that happen along the way.

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But with that, let's go to part one

of my interview with Kaneshi Hart.

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All right.

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We're here with Kaneshi Hart.

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Kaneshi, thanks for sharing

your heart with us today.

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Kaneshi: Josh, thank you for

allowing me to share my heart.

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I'm looking forward to this

conversation, but I am curious, what

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pricks your heart, because I want to

know if I'm going to be able to do

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that today with what we talk about.

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What pricks your heart, Josh?

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Joshua: Oh, I love that question,

and thank you for being probably

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one of the first guests, since

I've started this, all 95 episodes

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before, to ask a question like that.

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I have to tell you.

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One of the biggest rewards of what

pricks and makes my heart just beat

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out of my chest is just knowing that

there are people in this world that have

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gone through so many different types

of situations, and they have gifts that

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they're willing to share, and that's been

really the most rewarding thing that I've

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been able to do in my life and see other

people do, and Kaneshi, I have to tell you

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that just even with our conversation we

had beforehand, I feel like this is going

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to be an interview quite like I never

had before, where you have a lot to bring

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to the table, so, I really want to start

off this conversation with you because I

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think it's really important, especially

being a fellow podcast host myself,

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that you have your own podcast, which

I've already introduced to the audience.

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Tell us a little bit about how you got

into podcasting in the first place.

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Kaneshi: Josh.

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Okay.

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That's a funny story.

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I'm going to tell you the medium

length, so for those of you all who

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listen, you're like, "Oh my gosh.

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She's about to tell me

her whole life story."

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I'm not, but I'm going to give you enough

detail, so I actually started a podcast,

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Josh, almost four years ago, but I was

angry, so I don't know if you've ever been

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in that space where you do something out

of anger, so like, you're getting back at

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the world in your own way, but you don't

really know that that's what you're doing

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until somebody holds a mirror up to you.

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So I-

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Joshua: That happened

quite a lot four years ago.

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Yes, absolutely.

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I'm sorry.

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Kaneshi: So you know

what I am talking about?

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Joshua: Yes.

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Kaneshi: Okay, so I started this podcast

called Candid Corporate Conversations.

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You all can go find it.

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It's still up.

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I think I did 14 episodes,

and then I found Jesus.

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I knew who Jesus was before, but I hadn't

given my life to Jesus Christ, and so

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in 2020, I gave my life to Jesus Christ.

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I was born again, and started

following him, and he was like, "Shut

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that podcast down because you doing

stuff out of anger and being hateful

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to people.", and I was like, "Oh."

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I wanted to cry, but I was being

obedient, so- oh, and I had that

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podcast because as a woman in the

corporate space, Josh, I just thought

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that women were not getting their due.

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There's still times that that does happen,

and we need to be candid and talk about

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it, so that's where Candid Corporate

Conversations came from, so fast forward.

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I was like, "Oh.

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I'm never going to be on

a podcast again I enjoy."

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Josh, you know this, you podcast.

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You know this is fun.

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I didn't, and I interviewed

people and so it's so much fun.

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I was like, "Oh.

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I'm never going to get to do that again."

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I moaned and cried about a little

bit, but you move on, and then a year

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and a half ago, Jesus said, "Start

a podcast.", and I was like, "Yes.",

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and now I'm out of corporate America.

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I'm no longer working, and he didn't

tell me what it was going to be

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about, so then in January of 2023,

he said, "Start with coaches."

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Josh.

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Ask me if I'm a coach.

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Joshua: Are you a coach, Kaneshi?

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Kaneshi: Josh, I am not a coach!

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I was like...

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"Lord, why am I starting

a podcast about coaches?"

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I still haven't gotten that answer.

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I have my thoughts, but he said "The

podcast I want you to start about

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coaches.", so that is how Coach UP was

born, and I interviewed six and seven

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figure coaches who share how they built

their business to that level, because

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for coaches like you, Josh, your a coach.

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We didn't talk about, I don't know

how long you've been coaching.

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How long have you been coaching?

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Joshua: I find it funny that you even

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because that's exactly the year and

month in which I started my business,

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Your Speaking Voice LLC, so I ended the

year around four or five figures, so

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I'm not quite ready for your podcast

yet, apparently, but I'm getting there.

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Kaneshi: But you're on your way,

right, and that's exactly what it's

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for, so that's so cool that you

started your business this year, and

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this is the year my podcast started

exactly for that; but I'm not a coach,

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and so I was like, "Okay, but all

right, Lord, I'm going to do this."

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The six and seven figure coaches share

how they have built their business at

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that level so that coaches like yourself

can pick up tips, learn their techniques,

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their strategies so that you can build

your business to that six and seven figure

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business, if that's what you want to do.

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That's how it came about, and it's funny

because I keep telling Jesus, I was like,

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"There are other people that I want to

talk to that are not in coaching, because

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I'm not a coach, so why am I getting

this?", but I really think he knows,

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Josh, you know, when you need to be told

something, but you don't want to listen.

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I don't know.

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Have you ever been in that situation?

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Joshua: I have to say, I have been

in that situation a number of times,

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and even going in the first year of

opening, I felt like there was been a

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struggle of, "Am I doing the right thing?

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Is this really my calling?

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Am I actually impactful?

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Am I selling my worth?", and I've

had a lot of those internal dialogue

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conversations with myself until I

started doing the podcast, and then

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I realized that these people that

I've been interviewing had similar

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struggles, but then it's all about

surrounding yourself with family.

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To answer your question,

yes, I definitely have.

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Kaneshi: Absolutely.

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I love what you just said.

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It's about surrounding yourself with

family, right, and even the people that

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we meet with podcasting, there's some

people you just connect with, and they're

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in that realm of, like we were talking

about earlier, it's just a mindset

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shift, and so I really think the Lord was

like, "I need to get you some coaching.

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You're not paying for it yet, so I need

to give you some for free at the moment.",

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so that's why I think I get to interview

coaches, but that's how I came about.

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Joshua: I love that for many

reasons, and I even have said, and

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my listeners probably get tired of

me saying this, but I say it again.

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I have always appreciated, especially on

this podcast, Speaking From The Heart,

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of all the different perspectives,

because I've had people that have

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fled church and have not looked back.

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I've had people that have embraced

church, and they have different viewpoints

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than maybe even I have, but what I have

found always interesting about every

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single conversation I have is that

it challenges the status quo within

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ourselves, even myself, and I've even

listened to some of my older episodes.

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Yes, for my listeners, I do listen to

my own podcasts, even after I edit them,

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because I find it that I take nuggets,

even afterwards, 6 or 12 months down

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the road, and I say, "Wow, I can't

believe I listened to this many times

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and I didn't pick up on this before.",

so it's appreciating those different

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viewpoints, but Kaneshi, you said

something that is really valuable,

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which is that you surrounding yourself

with six, seven figure business owners,

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which I've had some people in the

show that have achieved that and they

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have a different mindset compared to

other people, so really my question

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for you is what led you into this?

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I mean, I understand that

you got laid off three times?

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Is that some of that motivation?

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Kaneshi: Oh, that was- I don't

know if it was motivation, Josh.

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More of a sign being dropped down

in front of my eyes, and I just kept

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missing it until finally I got it, so

the last four years, I have been laid

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off three times, so the first time was

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the company shut down the location,

but the company was still operational.

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They just shut down the location I

was working at, so that was the first

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time and I could have- Oh my goodness!

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I don't know if you know

this, Josh, so i'm curious.

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My job was being shipped overseas, out

of the country, like they were moving

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all of our jobs out of the country.

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Did you know that the government will

pay for ridiculous number of benefits

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if your job is moved out of the country?

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For example, they will pay for

you to go back to school to get

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a partial degree or full degree.

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They will give you an amount of

money, like a good amount of money.

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They will pay for it for free.

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They will pay for your relocation.

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Oh my goodness if you

have to move for a job.

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They provide you with resources

for finding a new job and all of

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those agency connection, job board,

resume writing, all of that, and

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then there's some other ridiculous,

like really amazing statistics.

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Did you know that the government

provides this if your job is

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shipped out of the country?

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Joshua: I have loved preparing my

own taxes the last few years right

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before I started my own business

when you go through and they ask

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you number of questions about,

"Hey, did your job get relocated?

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Did you lose your job because of X, Y

and Z happening?", and I'm thinking, "Why

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are they asking me all these questions?",

and then I started to think, "Oh my word.

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They've been subsidizing all kinds of

American taxpayers when these sort of

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things happen.", so in a way I did, but

I also didn't realize after you just said

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what you said that it was to that degree,

so that is impressively crazy in my view.

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Kaneshi: But when you are the one who's

getting laid off, you are very grateful,

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so I could have taken advantage of

all of those benefits, found another

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job in another industry, gone back to

college, got some degree, whatever.

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I didn't.

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I applied for another

job within my company.

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Praise the Lord.

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I got that job.

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It was very cool because I got to

travel to the Dominican Republic on

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a regular basis on my company's dime.

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Oh, my goodness; so

much fun for two years.

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Amazing, but then, unfortunately, COVID

happened, and layoff number two happens.

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Okay, so at this point, I didn't even

pay attention, but I think the Lord

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was like, "I have something else for

you to do", but I didn't pay attention.

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I took a year off and then I went

back to work and I thought- Jesus

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said, "Okay, this, maybe he did.

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Maybe he didn't."

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I still don't know, but eight

months later, Josh, they fired me.

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Joshua: They fired you?

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Kaneshi: They fired me.

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Joshua: You mean they did that five

letter word that we all dread, that

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I know that really hurts a lot of

people to the core, because they

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think they're not good enough?

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Kaneshi: Mm mm.

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What's that five letter word?

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Joshua: Fired?

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Kaneshi: Fired.

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Joshua: Wow.

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Kaneshi: Fired me, and now, they fired

me because they were doing illegal stuff,

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and I'll just give you one example; I

don't know all the illegal stuff they

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were doing, but this is the part they

wanted me to participate in, and I will

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say this for you and for all listeners,

our integrity, you know, people say your

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word is all you have, so translate that

to our integrity is the only thing we

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have to stand on, and if I compromise

it for anybody that I compromise it

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for myself and I'm the only person

who has to live with it, ultimately.

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It impacts other people, but I got to

deal with that, and so finally finding

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Jesus Christ, I was like, "This is a no.

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I answer to him.

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I don't answer to y'all.

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He'll take care of me.", so they were

asking people to drive cars in Georgia

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that their tags were out of date, but not

like, like three weeks, like we talking

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like three months, like six months, like

we just want to send people, and this is

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the company vehicles that a whole lot of

people are driving and we want to send

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them out in this and tell them, "Oh, if

you just get stopped", I don't even know

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what we were supposed to tell them, but

I live in Georgia and, in Georgia we

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had some challenges with police officers

and stops that sometimes went wrong.

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One, I'm not willing to sign off

on people doing illegal stuff, like

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I know your tags are wrong and I'm

going to willingly send you out.

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Nope, and then two, I want

to put your life potentially

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in danger if you get stopped.

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Nope, so, I continued to make a lot of

noise and they fired me, but I will say,

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they also had filed Chapter 11 bankruptcy.

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Hmm.

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They not in business anymore.

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Hmm.

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Just in case when people want to do

stuff, that's not as it should be,

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sometimes things don't work out well,

so three jobs in four years, and that's

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how I realized the Lord was like, "I

need you to not work for anybody else.

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I need you to work for you.", and that's

how I came to podcast, and then my podcast

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business extension, and everything I

do now, beause I am curious for you,

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beause you own your own business, Josh.

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Joshua: Yes, I do.

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Kaneshi: And you have your own

podcast, so, is this all that you do?

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Joshua: I actually have a full time

job in which I've worked with the

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Commonwealth of Pennsylvania being a

civil servant for over 13 years, which

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I'm hoping that once I get my six

to seven- notice that I said hoping.

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I had to stop myself for a second.

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When I do-

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Kaneshi: When.

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Joshua: When it happens,

because it will happen-

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Kaneshi: Yes.

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Joshua: I will be able to walk away with

a life of freedom doing what I really

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want to do, because I'm really passionate

about what it is, Kaneshi, that I've been

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able to achieve, but at the same time,

you said something that really resonates

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with me, and I think resonates with

our listeners as well, which is about

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not only integrity, which is one of the

biggest things that sometimes we lose

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when it comes to having the soul sucked

out of us by corporates and people in

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suits, and things of that nature, when

we necessarily know that we're doing the

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right thing, although they don't realize

they're doing the wrong thing, but it's

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really about not only looking deep inside

of yourself of what you need to do the

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change, but to continuously push the

needle so that you are living with the

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best version of yourself, which I know.

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I know what you're saying, and I feel

that for so many people, it's a struggle.

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I mean, do you agree with that?

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Kaneshi: I'm so glad you brought that

up, and yes, I do, because this is

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what I want to say being called out

of corporate America, so three jobs,

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four years, three layoffs; okay.

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People might be wondering, how are

you surviving, and so I, in my new

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Christian walk was like, "Oh, Jesus

couldn't rain down money like he

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rained down manna from the earth."

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No, he can, but no, that's not what

happened, and so to your point of having

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to basically put one foot in front of

the other, make sure that I am staying

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focused on what I'm doing and pushing

through, like since losing my job or

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being fired, let's call it what it is.

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I've had to figure out how I'm going

to bring in income while building a

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business, right, because the podcast

didn't officially launch until February,

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and we're still in the process of

monetizing it, and so I want to make

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sure people know, like, whatever you

have to do to make your dream work,

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do it like there's no shame in it.

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There is no, "I need

to look a certain way."

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people need to perceive me as- no, no, no.

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Do whatever you need to do that is legal,

moral, unethical, right, that is going to

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help you get to the dream that you know

is meant for you and that you're working

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for, and however you got to get there, it

is fine, so like I substitute teach now.

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I love that because I can pop in when I

want to, and I don't have to when I don't

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want to, but it allows me additional

income, in addition to building the

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podcast, right, and then I'll look for

other little ways to bring in money,

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but I do whatever I have to do, and then

the other thing is structuring your day,

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and so Josh, I admire you because you

are running multiple businesses, because

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I consider a podcast, a business in of

itself, along with your coaching business,

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along with working a full time job, right,

along with you love to speak, right?

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You're doing a lot, and so there's

got to be management of your time,

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right, and you have to push through

those days that you don't want to do

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anything like where you just are tired.

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I'm sure you've had this.

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Joshua: There's a couple of things

that you said that I definitely

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need to interject and say, because

first off, you're right, it is

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about time management, and for maybe

people that don't even realize this.

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It isn't about working the nine to five.

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You have to work the five to nine

lifestyle, because I learned that many,

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many decades ago, and it has stuck

in my brain that in order to achieve

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awesome opportunities in life, we have

to put in a little bit extra energy

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and time into something that we do.

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It doesn't mean doing it for

the wrong things because I will

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say that for much of my life.

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I was doing that I was doing it

for the wrong reasons, but now I'm

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realizing through self revelation

that I have this time available to me.

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Why not use it for something

that is really good?

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Why not surround myself with a family

of different people that help create

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that synergy, or that synergistic

opportunity that we all have deep inside

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of ourselves, so that we can do that,

but there's even something else that

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you said is that some people don't just

get a handout saying, "Here you go.

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Here's your business.

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You can start this."

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This isn't how it works.

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You have to build it from the

ground up, which means you might

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have to have a full time job.

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There was no shame in that whatsoever, so

I commend those people that have to do a

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full time job, and then, do multiple other

jobs to in order to start that business.

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I can't stress that enough.

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I think some people think, "Oh yeah.

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You have to give that all

up so that you have two feet

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forward into what you're doing.

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You need to do it full time.", and I

think for all the people that say that.

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You're lousy coaches, and I'll say

that on the record because you don't

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realize that sometimes the biggest

sacrifices that people have to make

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is the monetary aspects of the life.

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They need to be able to have a quality

life in order to live, so now that

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I'm done with my soapbox, I'm going to

put it away and let you speak again.

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Kaneshi: No, that's really important.

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Joshua: Yeah.

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Kaneshi: It's a good soapbox, and

I want to stay there for a minute

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because it's not shameful to work and

build your business at the same time.

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Okay, and so, we all come into awareness

of stuff when it's something that we're

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looking for consciously or unconsciously.

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I say that to say, most of the social

media that I see now is build your

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six figure coaching business, because

you know, I'm in the space of coaches.

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You are a coach, right, so this

is what pops up on my feed.

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That's what I'm looking for.

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Build your coaching business

in six hours a week and make

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a hundred thousand dollars.

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Lies, but for whatever reason,

that is what constantly comes

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through my social media feed.

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Whatever I'm looking at, but the reason

I point that out is because that's

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not reality, right, and we're fed

that message, and instead, we need to

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bypass all the crazy that tells us you

can do less work and get more results.

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Yes, there is a way to do less work

and get more results when you delegate

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that work out to somebody else.

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The work does not change.

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Okay, so I want people to hear that.

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The work does not change.

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You may do less because you are delegating

out, which means you need to pay

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somebody or I am a proponent of interns.

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If you don't have interns in your

business; I actually have one.

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I'm on the hunt for two or three more.

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It's wonderful for your interns to

be able to get experience, and then

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you to be able to get labor that does

not cost you at this point in your

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business, but it's not, you can do it

at any point in your business, right?

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There are multi million dollar

companies that have interns.

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Hello!

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Joshua: On the job

experience is so important.

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Yeah.

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Kaneshi: Right, and to be able to

provide that, be a mentor, so as

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you're building your business, you're

building a business for a reason.

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Whether you're not, even if you're

not building a business, let's

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say you're a public speaker and

you want to do that alongside

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your full time job, get an intern.

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Mentor somebody.

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Mentor a child, a high schooler at

college- give them an opportunity to

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be in your space to get mentorship

and get on the job experience.

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Hello!

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That's a win win for everybody,

but again, I digress.

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We have to realize that building a

business, the work has to be done and

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people who are putting in that work, those

who actually have jobs sometimes do better

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than those of us who do not, and why do

I say that, because Josh, do you know,

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there are days that I choose- note the

word I said choose; not to make a calendar

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plan for my day, and I get jack done.

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Joshua: Yeah.

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Kaneshi: Nothing, or at least let me

say, nothing that's going to propel

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my business forward, right, and so

just to be, to speak from the heart,

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to be transparent with you guys, there

are days as entrepreneurs, we just

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don't do what we're supposed to do.

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If you're an entrepreneur, if you're

a person, and you have a to do

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list, like you probably know this.

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If we don't make a plan, we

don't do it, and so those who

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actually, have you ever heard the

saying busy people get more done?

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Joshua: Yeah, I've heard that, and I think

that's a bunch of hogwash, to be honest.

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Kaneshi: Oh, we got to talk about it!

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I believe it, because

you- I love what you said.

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Work your 5 to 9 like

you work your 9 to 5.

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Those of us who are not working

can sometimes, if we don't plan

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out the day and schedule it, oh my

goodness, we can work nine to nine

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and get done a third of what you

guys get done, right, so I think it's

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important, yes, what you said is true.

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People need to know you can build your

business alongside another business.

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I am in this full time, but I have, quote,

unquote, a job that allows me to keep

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my focus that I have to be more specific

with my time, but now I'm curious.

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I want to know, Josh, you

said it's hogwash that-

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Joshua: Yes.

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Kaneshi: People busy people.

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What is that?

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What is that about?

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Joshua: I have seen, time and time

again, people that think that,

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"Oh, if I just remain busy, I will

be able to make the connections.

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I'll be able to have this opportunity that

maybe other people don't have.", so it's

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sort of a double edged sword, right, so

I have to walk back my soapbox now and

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be like, "Well, maybe five to nine might

be unrealistic.", but here's the thing.

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There's one universal concept that we

often forget about, which is balance,

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and I think that we need to have a

balance between when we're working,

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but also taking intentional time for

ourselves, and my listeners have heard

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this a lot about my own personal story.

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I never took the personal time for myself.

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As a matter of fact, Kaneshi, I feel

like you and I kind of come from this

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because you have been over two decades

in the corporate world, leading people,

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over 600 employees at one point,

over 300 million dollars in revenue.

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You understand that it's about

balance, because if you are just

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trudging and trudging along, and

you're taking your computer at home

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and you're still trudging and trudging

along, where's the time for you?

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Where's the time for you to be able to

finally say, "I need to do something that

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I really enjoy", and I think that, yeah,

some people like doing that, and for all

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those people that do, I bless you because

you certainly have been able to do that,

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but I think that we often get burned

out as a result of just doing that work

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over and over again, but I'm curious,

because you asked me that question, I want

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to ask you this, because you're on the

other side of being part of the corporate

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world, and you are almost ready to start

your own business, which we were just

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talking about too, what would you say

is really your motivation for doing it?

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Is it because you want to do

something that you passionately enjoy?

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Is it because you want to have your

own freedom, because I think that even

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nowadays, those become cliché statements.

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In other words, what is your real reason?

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Now I'm asking you to really

speak from the heart, Kaneshi.

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Kaneshi: The reason I paused

Josh is because I love it.

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I love your podcast,

Speaking From The Heart, and-

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Joshua: I'm not the only one to say that.

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Yes.

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Kaneshi: Oh my goodness!

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I love it!

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It almost gives us the freedom

to say those things that you

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normally wouldn't say out loud.

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You might tell yourself, but I want to,

I'm going to share, so that question

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is a good question because I'm still

looking for the passion that's driving

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me, but this is what drives me, and

I don't understand it, and so for me,

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I have to learn to be comfortable in

this space until I get some clarity.

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Literally, I'm doing what I'm doing:

my podcast, the business that I'm

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going to start, and I also trade in

the stock market right now poorly.

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Let's not talk about that.

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Joshua: Yeah.

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As of the time of this recording,

the stock market has not been

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doing very well whatsoever.

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Yes-

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Kaneshi: No it has not.

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No, and I have not been trading it

well, but I will get better, but all of

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those those three things that I'm doing

literally is out of obedience, and so I

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want your listeners to hear this, that

you may have this inclination, this idea

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that just will not allow you to- to let

it go, like it just keeps coming up.

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People keep saying it.

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If you are religious and you follow

whomever you follow and you feel like

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that's been your inspiration, what have

you, like there's just something that

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just says, this is what you're supposed

to do, and nobody else agrees with you.

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Everybody else thinks you're crazy.

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Everybody else is like,

"What are you doing?

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This is either not going to work,

or you need to stay in as nine to

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five, or you may be in a nine to

five and you're sacrificing something

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to do this dream, and they're like,

"There's no-" you don't get why you're

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still on that path, but you are and

nothing is making sense around you.

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That's honestly where I am, but

you're just doing it out of obedience.

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You're doing it out of; I like

what you said, revelation that

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you had, right, for yourself.

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You know that you know, that you know

this is what I'm supposed to be doing,

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and then you just do it, and we have

to trust and we have to have faith

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that it will reveal to us if we don't

know why that that why will come.

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If we don't know where the things

are going to come from, that the

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people are going to come from.

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I'll tell you, when I started my

podcast, oh my goodness, Josh, to

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be able to interview millionaires,

million multi millionaires on a podcast

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that was just starting, so I had no

followers and have people saying, "Yes."

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For me, that's only God, right, like

that's only, only doing what I'm supposed

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to do, and it wasn't hard, right?

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I love your podcast because you're way

booked out as far as episodes dropping,,

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and I am done for my podcast through

the end of the year, like if I didn't

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do another interview until January,

I'd be good, but I didn't do that.

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I'm not anybody.

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I am everybody's somebody, but I'm

not anybody that people would know.

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Joshua: I was going to say you are

somebody to me because you own the show.

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Yes.

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Kaneshi: But you know, it's not,

these individuals don't know me.

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I don't have a big following to say

come, but they came and so what drives

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me is just the desire to do what I'm

supposed to do, and I love- the other

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thing I'll say really quickly because

we were talking about this, like don't

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go on forever when you're answering a

question on a podcast, just a little too.

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but I will say this.

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When I created my Instagram handle it's

the connection collaborator, so y'all

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can find me on IG at the connection

collaborator, and I was like, "I don't

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even know where this is coming from.

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Why is this my handle?", but as God has

revealed it to me, like I get to connect

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people, so I will say I love and enjoy

what I get to do and I just don't know

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the big why yet, but I am continuing on

the path out of obedience and commitment

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is doing what you don't want to do,

or doing what you said you were going

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to do, even when the feeling that you

had when you said it is long gone and

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that's what I'm walking in right now.

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Joshua: I left the last part as a

cliffhanger for our next part of this

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episode in which Kaneshi and I continue

our conversation about the importance of

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moving forward, being able to understand

that the path that we normally walk on

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can have its own unique challenges, but

even with all this said, let's recap

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what we've heard so far, because this was

an absolutely fascinating conversation

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about how the level of perseverance

moving from one point to another can

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make such a big difference, especially

when you're laid off three times from

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your job, and I think that is something

we all have experienced at one point

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or another: whether we've been fired,

whether we have walked out of the job

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that we have been in for many years

because of frustrations, regardless of

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what circumstances or situations, we've at

least had that thought one time or another

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of quitting and moving on, and it might

not have been just from a job perspective.

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We all have this mindset shift that

we continue to go through in our

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lives because we start to understand

more and more and more about what we

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want to do in our lives, and I think

this is what we obviously are trying

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to do to move forward for ourselves.

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We have to be able to get something

from the things that we spend the

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most time in, which, for many of us,

working is predominantly the biggest

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part of our lives or should it be?

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Is anyone really helping us to get to

that next step, that next part of our

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adventure that we want to live in?

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Are we really standing

up for our own beliefs?

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Can we do that, despite the fact that we

have to slave away at a job that maybe

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is not fulfilling who we are, but I

think that we need to stay focused, and

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Kaneshi really talked a lot about what

we can do to help create that dream for

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us, regardless of what that looks like.

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It's not just the things that we try to

create to help us to understand what that

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dream is all about, but we have to stay

focused with it, and I think that our

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focus gets shifted from all the different

aspects of our lives, whether it's from

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the home, whether it's from the other

people that we are trying to support, it

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could be a mixture of medical, physical,

other sort of aspects of our lives that

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even in previous episodes, we've talked

about the importance of that balance,

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being able to understand how much we can

give, but how much we need to take too,

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because we need to sustain ourselves, but

the biggest thing that really stuck out

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in part one of this conversation is that

we have this bad messaging that we have

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to hear from others time and time again.

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I think that we need to bypass that

bad messaging in order to do the stuff

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that is really necessary for our own

enrichment, and I love the fact that

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Kaneshi even talked about the fact that

even for a business model, we try to

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do that with interns, because interns

in themselves can help to create some

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of that value while giving them some

practical starting out experience.

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Being an intern myself at the Department

of Justice many moons ago, I got to learn

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firsthand the aspect of public service and

what was really necessary for us to defend

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the constitutional rights of other victims

of foul play, whether that was from drug

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smuggling or other sort of human smuggling

or trafficking, as I worked in the

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domestic security section at that time.

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It taught me a lot about what the federal

government can obviously do to help

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protect our rights, but at the same time,

work with some talented, thoughtful,

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considerate people that have been going

the distance in helping to protect

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others, but are you going to ignore

the signals that are around you when

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you have those sort of ploys, or those

trouble spots that go along the way?

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I think we need to start having candid

conversations with each other about the

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importance of not just working through

some of those difficulties, but we also

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have to stay focused with what that means,

and that focus is often shifted from the

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fact that we have all these different

problems that we got going on in our

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lives, but that's why it's so important

to connect with the right people.

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Connections that are made, not

just in the professional realm,

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but also in the personal realm,

can make such a big difference in

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the overall grand scheme of things.

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I know for a fact that if it

wasn't for some of the professional

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development opportunities that I've

had in my life, let alone the people

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that I've encountered, I would have

never been able to open my coaching

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business, Your Speaking Voice LLC.

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As a matter of fact, some of my first

clients out of the gate were some of my

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friends that really needed some help,

and I knew that I had something that

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I could potentially give to them, but

you can't always rely on your friends

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forever, which I've also evolved and

now been working with other entities

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and other groups as a result of my

work just starting out, but that's

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the whole deal, ladies and gentlemen.

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We all have to start somewhere, and

your friends can be the starting point

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for all kinds of different things

that are happening, regardless if

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it's in your business, regardless

if it's in your personal life.

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I think that we often have trouble trying

to change our mindset because we're then

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surrounded by some very toxic people.

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I can't count the numerous amount of

times I've had people in my life that were

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just so toxic in nature that it literally

debilitated me from being able to create

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those best opportunities in my life.

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I would even want to mention their

names, but the fact is that those

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names don't matter anymore, and

obviously enough, those people probably

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aren't thinking about me as well,

so why give them more credence than

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what is really necessary, but that's

what I did for the longest time.

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Kaneshi could have done the same thing.

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She could have held on to those people

that really did her in by laying her off

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three times, but instead, she started to

create a journey for herself, not only

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doing the Coach UP podcast, but also

starting her own business being able to

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help others with generating that revenue.

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Money is not the sole object of starting

a business, and I think that we've

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talked about that in numerous episodes,

even starting with Kyle Slaymaker, in

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which we even started to talk about in

that episode, the importance of having

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a good relationship with someone, but

then, there's something about Kaneshi

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that has really rubbed me at this

point in the interview, in a good way,

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and it's this: she's able to stand

up for her beliefs and stay focused.

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It took a lot of persevering, and

pushing forward, to be able to

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bypass all those different things

that have happened in her life.

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I think that she has a great support

system, and even before we started this

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episode, we talked about the importance

of having that network, and even the

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people that she was meeting literally

after our interview was something that

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was of great significance to help build

her up, not only in the professional

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sense, but knowing that there's a common

connection that lies out there, so for

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my owners out there, if you have never

explored having a small business network

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of your own, even if you're just a

solopreneur, or even working with other

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people in your partnership, or other

types of business models, you're going

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to be able to find a lot of support

and a lot of networking through just

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overcoming some of the common obstacles

that we all faced when it comes to even

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starting a business for that matter, but

the same goes for even our own lives.

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If we know that we have those individuals

in our lives that can see the signals that

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are being ignored by us, they can call

them out for us to be able to understand

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that we need to spend some time to work

on them, but that's what I think I loved

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about Kaneshi and what she had shared,

because in Part 2, there's something

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that's even bigger that is shared, but

I'll leave that for the next part of

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this whole episode to discuss what those

important aspects are that she taught

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me, but I think that it's really about

knowing who your network is, and it's

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about growing who you are through that

network, so let me ask you this today.

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Are you surrounding

yourself with greatness?

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Are you helping others to shift their

mindsets, and are you creating that

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value, that opportunity, that is

given to you by moving forward, and

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is anything that you're doing actually

helping for that bigger belief that

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you have inside yourself and for

your other people that you serve,

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whether they are your customers,

clients, or other sort of designated

648

people that you decided to help out?

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I will say this.

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The next part of this interview is

going to be something that I had never

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thought I would feel, especially starting

this almost a year ago now, but as

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I've mentioned on other episodes, it's

not just about the feeling that we

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have about these guests, or even about

what their impact has been on others.

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It has shown me that there is really

the importance of having that meaningful

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connection and making sure that

you surround your tribe, the tribe

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in which you're building, with the

people that you love the most, are

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willing to give you that support no

matter what happens in your life, but

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are also willing to go the distance.

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I think that for all of us, part

one shows us what's really important

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about what is integrity, respect,

and service to others, because it's

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all important in the big scheme of

things, and you're important too.

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Give yourself that value and start

changing your mindset, because

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let's face it, we are all worth it.

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We are all able to create that value

for each other, and even though I

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keep saying at the end of my episodes

that we are awesome people that

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are worthy of that opportunity, I

think that it's more than just the

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transcendence of thinking that thought.

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It's about putting it into action,

and oh my goodness, will we put it

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in action in part two of my interview

with Kaneshi Hart, but until then,

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thanks for listening to Speaking

From the Heart, and I look forward

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to hearing from your heart very soon.

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