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[David]: Hello and welcome to this Let's Talk podcast, Let's Talk Solutions. I'm excited

[David]: to be able to meet with you on this first podcast from Adventist Risk Management.

[David]: And today is a really exciting and important topic. We wanna talk about going

[David]: to the Camperee. Maybe you're planning to attend the International Camperee in Gillette,

[David]: Wyoming later this year. I hope you are. and we'd like to talk to you a little

[David]: bit about safety preparing to go to the campery as well as at the campery and I

[David]: am joined by some wonderful guests. I want to introduce them to you today. Today

[David]: joining me I have Dr. David Mayer. Hello Dr. Mayer.

[Dr. David Mayor]: Bye.

[David]: Welcome. We're really glad that you're with us today. Dr. Mayer has been in emergency

[David]: medicine for quite a number of years, and he has enjoyed being the medical director

[David]: at the camperee for the last three camperees prior to this one. Is that right?

[Dr. David Mayor]: That's correct.

[David]: Fantastic.

[Dr. David Mayor]: It's hard not to say going to Oshkosh, but now I have it at them, going

[Dr. David Mayor]: to Gillette.

[David]: Yeah, I've been making that mistake regularly. We will probably hear it yet before

[David]: this podcast is over. So welcome and we're thankful to be in good hands with somebody

[David]: who has had the experience that you've had. And also really appreciate that you are

[David]: a Bible student and a follower of Jesus. You know, when we get together with the volunteers

[David]: and the team members of our camperee, We're not just talking about amazing professionals

[David]: who care about bringing their vocation to our active service in this event. We're

[David]: talking about people who truly are followers of Christ and it's just it's exciting

[David]: to partner together. So I want to introduce also Pamela Kruger, who is a nurse and now

[David]: do I understand that this is also not your first and maybe even many more Kemperies.

[David]: I don't know, how many is that? Five.

[Pamela Krueger, MSN, RN]: This will be my fifth Campari, yes. I was trying to think who I worked

[Pamela Krueger, MSN, RN]: with the very first time and I'm not sure we had a medical director

[Pamela Krueger, MSN, RN]: the very first time. We may have just been winging it, I don't remember.

[David]: Well, it's wonderful to have you and your vast experience, not only at the camperee,

[David]: but also as a as a nurse and in administration and emergency rooms. I understand you have

[David]: a great deal of your experience in emergency work. Um, okay. Uh, last, but certainly

[David]: not least. And you're going to have to help me with, with pronunciation because

[David]: I don't like to get it wrong. Uh,

[Cindy Aguinaga, BSN]: Aguanaga.

[David]: another nurse, Cindy. And if you could help me with your last name.

[Cindy Aguinaga, BSN]: You did.

[David]: Hi, Guanaga. You know, okay. Did I do okay? Okay, all right. Well, that's, you

[David]: know, that's very good. Again, another nurse who's experienced in the emergency work

[David]: specifically. So we're looking forward to having your expertise as part of our camperee.

[David]: All right. Well, as we get started, I really wanna turn the time over to you. and

[David]: have you share a little bit more about what we can expect and what we should plan

[David]: for, especially around health and safety, getting to and at the camperee. From my perspective,

[David]: I really want to frame this conversation around one singular goal. The one goal is we

[David]: want to protect our Pathfinders and our volunteers. We want them to have a safe,

[David]: happy, experience. We want them to go home richly blessed, enhanced by their experience

[David]: and not have some terrible accident that really ruins their memory and their experience.

[David]: But if they have some sort of little thing that comes up along the way that there

[David]: is the right solutions in place. So I want to turn things over to you if you will

[David]: help us walk through what we should know about health and safety.

[Dr. David Mayor]: Okay, well, I'll start with a little introduction here. This team of Pam,

[Dr. David Mayor]: who has been taking care of nursing and Cindy, who has experience in

[Dr. David Mayor]: military and in EMS, as well as in emergency nursing. This has been my core

[Dr. David Mayor]: executive team for my last three Pathfinder Camporese. And so this will

[Dr. David Mayor]: be our fourth one together as a team. And... I'm looking forward to working

[Dr. David Mayor]: with them. It works well when you work with somebody that you've worked

[Dr. David Mayor]: with before. We have spent a lot of time in prayer and conversation and

[Dr. David Mayor]: we've visited Gillette and visited Homeland Security for the state of

[Dr. David Mayor]: Wyoming. Wyoming has been much more actively involved than Wisconsin

[Dr. David Mayor]: was, although 20 years ago now, we were more actively involved with the

[Dr. David Mayor]: state of Wisconsin, I think, and then it just kind of unfolded as we had

[Dr. David Mayor]: became accustomed to working up in Wisconsin. But we are solidly entrenched

[Dr. David Mayor]: in Wyoming. We've met with the local hospital and we have had meetings

[Dr. David Mayor]: on site with the hospital and the hospital administrators. Zoom meetings

[Dr. David Mayor]: as well with them. And we've met in Cheyenne with the Department of Homeland

[Dr. David Mayor]: Security several times in putting together the background that provides

[Dr. David Mayor]: the support that we need from the state. We also have met together with

[Dr. David Mayor]: the local EMS and Cindy can talk a little bit about that, but we... we

[Dr. David Mayor]: do our EMS coordination under the EMS regulations that are on site there.

[Dr. David Mayor]: So when I talk to the...

[Dr. David Mayor]: Department of Homeland Security and had some other meetings with administrators

[Dr. David Mayor]: in different departments for the state such as the police and fire etc.

[Dr. David Mayor]: My introduction was that Pathfinders is leading a group of young people

[Dr. David Mayor]: to get to know Jesus and I said they're the kind of people that you

[Dr. David Mayor]: want to have as your neighbors and this camperee we would like to have so

[Dr. David Mayor]: that when we that you anticipate us when we come. And when we're there, you'll

[Dr. David Mayor]: think, this is very nice as a community. And then when we leave, you'll

[Dr. David Mayor]: want to say, that was so nice. When can we have you back again? And

[Dr. David Mayor]: we will say, well, it won't be next week or next month. It'll be five years

[Dr. David Mayor]: from now if Jesus doesn't come. And so along that lines, the numbers

[Dr. David Mayor]: that we've pulled together for the past three campereys is our... medical

[Dr. David Mayor]: team has seen about 250 patient visits every day. And if we just let that number

[Dr. David Mayor]: of patients visit the community health care, that would overwhelm the healthcare

[Dr. David Mayor]: system there. So we're very cognizant of wanting to make sure that the

[Dr. David Mayor]: healthcare system there has been at least screened through a medical team.

[Dr. David Mayor]: So we have... doctors that are board certified and we have the nursing

[Dr. David Mayor]: team. And then Cindy will talk about the EMS roving team that we have

[Dr. David Mayor]: that will help that. One of the other things I say to the group that

[Dr. David Mayor]: I've said several times is, Pathfinders are a club and every club has done

[Dr. David Mayor]: lots of things on their own. They've gone camping, they've gone to a variety

[Dr. David Mayor]: of places. They take care of their meals and they take care of them,

[Dr. David Mayor]: of their medical needs. And so we anticipate that this will also be the

[Dr. David Mayor]: case here, that they will take care of that. And Pam will talk a little

[Dr. David Mayor]: bit more about the things we wanna make sure that they remember to put

[Dr. David Mayor]: together. And they will come as a unit. We will just be that additional

[Dr. David Mayor]: healthcare support for them. So they won't have to go to the community unless

[Dr. David Mayor]: their needs are greater and then they can go to the community For those

[Dr. David Mayor]: kind of things so we won't be taking any appendix out or we won't be doing

[Dr. David Mayor]: those kind

[Cindy Aguinaga, BSN]: Okay.

[Dr. David Mayor]: of things, you know Not that we couldn't or wouldn't want to do that, but

[Dr. David Mayor]: we won't be doing that, you know, we'll pass that on So We start each of

[Dr. David Mayor]: our meetings usually you know with you know asking Jesus to guide us

[Dr. David Mayor]: and we look at that our touch of the campers is not just from our medical

[Dr. David Mayor]: standpoint, but we would like to use this as an opportunity to encourage

[Dr. David Mayor]: each one of us as healthcare providers to talk about Jesus with each and

[Dr. David Mayor]: every encounter that we have so that we can reconnect with that and use

[Dr. David Mayor]: that as we go on with our healthcare elsewhere. The care that we provide

[Dr. David Mayor]: there, like I mentioned, there will be people that can do the surgery

[Dr. David Mayor]: if they needed to or are full EMS related. And their skills are much

[Dr. David Mayor]: more than what we're gonna provide. We're gonna provide basic medical

[Dr. David Mayor]: care. If it needs more than that, we've met with the community health services

[Dr. David Mayor]: and we will provide that information and let the community take care

[Dr. David Mayor]: of anything that's more than just basic medical care.

[David]: good. Yeah, it's good to make that connection. I think between, I like to do that

[David]: for all of our risk management topics as well. You know, Jesus came here as the great

[David]: healer and he was mingling with people and he was meeting their needs and his acts

[David]: of service were also, you know, practical acts of care and healing. but they were spiritual

[David]: blessings as well. So it's an important connection that we make that whatever we're

[David]: doing, whether it's safety, security, or in your case with a medical care, these

[David]: are spiritual acts of service. So thank you for that.

[Dr. David Mayor]: So just handing it on to Pam for some of the details of what we'd want

[Dr. David Mayor]: to have from medical and from the nursing side.

[Pamela Krueger, MSN, RN]: Thank you for the opportunity. As Dr. Mayer said,

[Pamela Krueger, MSN, RN]: we hope that we're a well-oiled machine, and we've worked well

[Pamela Krueger, MSN, RN]: together for several camperees prior to this one. And we have learned

[Pamela Krueger, MSN, RN]: from each camperee what works and what doesn't work. So hopefully,

[Pamela Krueger, MSN, RN]: the information that I would like to share with you is. will make

[Pamela Krueger, MSN, RN]: your camperee and the Pathfinder's Camperee a pleasant experience

[Pamela Krueger, MSN, RN]: and keep as much illness and injuries away as possible. So the

[Pamela Krueger, MSN, RN]: top of mind that I would like for every camper, whether it's

[Pamela Krueger, MSN, RN]: a volunteer from Pastor Ron Whitehead all the way down to the

[Pamela Krueger, MSN, RN]: very youngest camper is water. Water. water inside and outside.

[Pamela Krueger, MSN, RN]: It is important to drink. What we have discovered in the past

[Pamela Krueger, MSN, RN]: is that sometimes our young campers do not appreciate the non-flushing

[Pamela Krueger, MSN, RN]: facilities, so they don't want to drink because then they don't

[Pamela Krueger, MSN, RN]: have to use the bathroom. But it is important to drink for many,

[Pamela Krueger, MSN, RN]: that each camper have an insulated water bottle or a camelback

[Pamela Krueger, MSN, RN]: so that they always have water with them. Every camper needs to

[Pamela Krueger, MSN, RN]: plan for not less than 48 ounces of water, preferably 64 ounces

[Pamela Krueger, MSN, RN]: of water every single day. I strongly suggest that caffeine is avoided.

[Pamela Krueger, MSN, RN]: It causes you to get rid of more fluid than what you should.

[Pamela Krueger, MSN, RN]: And plan for a powdered Gatorade or PowerAid to be added to one water

[Pamela Krueger, MSN, RN]: bottle each day. Lack of water is going to cause problems such

[Pamela Krueger, MSN, RN]: as constipation, which causes terrible belly pain, which causes

[Pamela Krueger, MSN, RN]: an unpleasant experience. Other concerns with insufficient water intake

[Pamela Krueger, MSN, RN]: is dehydration, fainting, headaches, muscle cramps, and you're just out

[Pamela Krueger, MSN, RN]: of gas. Not much energy. So water, water.

[Dr. David Mayor]: Now, Pam, along with that,

[Cindy Aguinaga, BSN]: Thanks for watching!

[Dr. David Mayor]: the altitude is gonna be quite a bit different than a lot of people

[Dr. David Mayor]: are used to. So it's a little drier and you don't feel it. So that's where

[Dr. David Mayor]: you definitely need that water that you're talking about. It's about

[Dr. David Mayor]: 44,000 or 4,400 feet at the

[Pamela Krueger, MSN, RN]: Yes.

[Dr. David Mayor]: campings there.

[Pamela Krueger, MSN, RN]: Yes, and we will talk a little bit more about that and a little

[Pamela Krueger, MSN, RN]: bit farther down in our conversation. It's hot during the day,

[Pamela Krueger, MSN, RN]: it's cold at night, you're in the desert, so need to plan for significant

[Pamela Krueger, MSN, RN]: temperature swings. Make sure you have sunscreen. You'll be busy

[Pamela Krueger, MSN, RN]: during the day not realizing how much fun you're having and then

[Pamela Krueger, MSN, RN]: all of a sudden the sunburn kicks in and then you're very uncomfortable.

[Pamela Krueger, MSN, RN]: Also bug spray we want to make sure that we keep um avoid the

[Pamela Krueger, MSN, RN]: bug bites that are out there. You want clothes for warm weather

[Pamela Krueger, MSN, RN]: as I said it's hot during the day and you want clothes for cold

[Pamela Krueger, MSN, RN]: weather it's cold at night so when you think about going to the

[Pamela Krueger, MSN, RN]: evening program bring a jacket bring a sweatshirt bring a blanket

[Pamela Krueger, MSN, RN]: You want a warm sleeping bag for at night. It's always good to have

[Pamela Krueger, MSN, RN]: a sheet tucked inside that sleeping bag just in case it's warmer

[Pamela Krueger, MSN, RN]: than what we think and an extra blanket. And we never know what

[Pamela Krueger, MSN, RN]: the weather is going to be like. So rain geared with a poncho or

[Pamela Krueger, MSN, RN]: an umbrella so that you're somewhat protected for that type of

[Pamela Krueger, MSN, RN]: weather.

[David]: These are really good points. I hope that our Pathfinder Club directors are making

[David]: note of these because these are really, really critical. If you haven't visited this

[David]: particular location, these are points to really emphasize with your club. Rain can

[David]: come right up and wind be very high. You can have some unexpected experiences there.

[Pamela Krueger, MSN, RN]: Yes,

[David]: Thank you for this.

[Pamela Krueger, MSN, RN]: you're welcome. And you're in the desert, so

[David]: Right.

[Pamela Krueger, MSN, RN]: it's going to be dry when that wind kicks in. You're going to

[Pamela Krueger, MSN, RN]: get dust, so have some sunglasses handy to help keep the dust

[Pamela Krueger, MSN, RN]: out of your eyes. We have experienced in past camperees where

[Pamela Krueger, MSN, RN]: some of our younger campers get confused and think they're going

[Pamela Krueger, MSN, RN]: to a fashion show. So they are not wearing comfortable shoes.

[Pamela Krueger, MSN, RN]: They'll be wearing heels. We have had a couple occasions where

[Pamela Krueger, MSN, RN]: campers had full thickness blisters on the bottom of their feet

[Pamela Krueger, MSN, RN]: where they were not able to walk because of the blisters and the

[Pamela Krueger, MSN, RN]: pain. So comfortable shoes, keep the heels at home, bring flat shoes

[Pamela Krueger, MSN, RN]: or tennis shoes for marching in the parade. You also want to make

[Pamela Krueger, MSN, RN]: sure you have flip-flops or some equivalent footwear to wear in the

[Pamela Krueger, MSN, RN]: shower, several pair of cotton socks. Plan for a couple of pair

[Pamela Krueger, MSN, RN]: of socks a day if your feet gets hot and sweaty, or if your feet

[Pamela Krueger, MSN, RN]: get wet from rain, you want to make sure you have dry socks. And

[Pamela Krueger, MSN, RN]: then two pair of tennis shoes, again for the same reason, if

[Pamela Krueger, MSN, RN]: one gets wet, then you've got a dry pair of tennis shoes while

[Pamela Krueger, MSN, RN]: the wet pair is drying. You're going to be walking miles every day.

[Pamela Krueger, MSN, RN]: There's more walking than what many people will be used to. I also

[Pamela Krueger, MSN, RN]: suggest that every camper, adult and Pathfinder have a backpack

[Pamela Krueger, MSN, RN]: of some sort. And in that backpack, at a minimum, you want to

[Pamela Krueger, MSN, RN]: keep some hand sanitizer in there. That's going to be our top priority

[Pamela Krueger, MSN, RN]: to ward off any type of communicable disease such as colds and that

[Pamela Krueger, MSN, RN]: type of thing that you want to, excuse me, spread rampant. As

[Pamela Krueger, MSN, RN]: it sounds, keep a roll of toilet paper in the backpack. If you

[Pamela Krueger, MSN, RN]: happen to go into a bathroom and all of a sudden the toilet paper

[Pamela Krueger, MSN, RN]: is gone, you're gonna be glad for that extra roll of toilet paper.

[Pamela Krueger, MSN, RN]: Keep a small package of cleaning wipes, such as Lysol wipes or some

[Pamela Krueger, MSN, RN]: brand of that sort. And then a great place to keep your water bottle

[Pamela Krueger, MSN, RN]: if you're not going to be using a camelback. So our medical services

[Pamela Krueger, MSN, RN]: that are available, we will have physicians, nurse practitioners,

[Pamela Krueger, MSN, RN]: physician assistants, nurses, EMS, and many support staff. Our medical

[Pamela Krueger, MSN, RN]: building is staff 24-7. As Dr. Mayer said, we provide basic care.

[Pamela Krueger, MSN, RN]: We will use our local county EMS support. Some critical points for

[Pamela Krueger, MSN, RN]: our Pathfinder leaders to... to really pay attention to and make a

[Pamela Krueger, MSN, RN]: priority is you must have copies of the medical form for not only

[Pamela Krueger, MSN, RN]: your Pathfinders, but for the adults. And I would suggest making

[Pamela Krueger, MSN, RN]: at least three copies of those because if you need to bring one in

[Pamela Krueger, MSN, RN]: to the medical building and we keep it, or for some reason they go

[Pamela Krueger, MSN, RN]: into the urgent care or the hospital and they keep the copy, you'll

[Pamela Krueger, MSN, RN]: have copies then for any future need. Pathfinders cannot just

[Pamela Krueger, MSN, RN]: come into the medical building unless it is a true emergency without

[Pamela Krueger, MSN, RN]: an adult present. We must have an adult sponsor there to treat

[Pamela Krueger, MSN, RN]: that Pathfinder. We want to make sure that we have all their

[Pamela Krueger, MSN, RN]: information, that we're not giving them medication that maybe

[Pamela Krueger, MSN, RN]: they are allergic to or they shouldn't have. Each club needs

[Pamela Krueger, MSN, RN]: to keep with them some Tylenol, some Advil, ibuprofen, peroxide,

[Pamela Krueger, MSN, RN]: basic wound care supplies and keep the medication secured. We

[Pamela Krueger, MSN, RN]: don't want medication just laying around where kids can just inadvertently

[Pamela Krueger, MSN, RN]: get into the medication and then we have bigger problems to deal with.

[Pamela Krueger, MSN, RN]: As odd as it seems, make sure that all your campers that are of

[Pamela Krueger, MSN, RN]: the appropriate age have their feminine hygiene supplies, even

[Pamela Krueger, MSN, RN]: if they don't think they're going to need it. The change in altitude,

[Pamela Krueger, MSN, RN]: change in environment, change in groups of people just cause funny

[Pamela Krueger, MSN, RN]: things to happen with our young females. And they don't want

[Pamela Krueger, MSN, RN]: to be caught off guard without having those supplies. Other

[Pamela Krueger, MSN, RN]: important information that we would like to share with the team is

[Pamela Krueger, MSN, RN]: please make a copy of each campers insurance card. And I would

[Pamela Krueger, MSN, RN]: suggest that the adult sponsors have just a small binder. that

[Pamela Krueger, MSN, RN]: they keep all this information in and keep it on their person.

[Pamela Krueger, MSN, RN]: It's a great thing to stick in a backpack so that in the event

[Pamela Krueger, MSN, RN]: it's needed, then you have it. We do not need an insurance card

[Pamela Krueger, MSN, RN]: at the medical building. There's no charge for the services that the

[Pamela Krueger, MSN, RN]: medical volunteers are providing. However, if that camper needs

[Pamela Krueger, MSN, RN]: to go in to the local hospital or urgent care, they will want to

[Pamela Krueger, MSN, RN]: have that insurance card. We have had times in the past where this

[Pamela Krueger, MSN, RN]: has been a little problematic, so please make sure you have that

[Pamela Krueger, MSN, RN]: insurance card copy. And the local hospital and urgent care and

[Pamela Krueger, MSN, RN]: EMS system are advised that they will not automatically be billing

[Pamela Krueger, MSN, RN]: Adventist risk management unless they have the appropriate documentation

[Pamela Krueger, MSN, RN]: that insurance has been purchased through Adventist risk management.

[Pamela Krueger, MSN, RN]: EMS will require a copy of the insurance card if they happen

[Pamela Krueger, MSN, RN]: to transport a patient. So the insurance card and the medical forms

[Pamela Krueger, MSN, RN]: are very important. And the medical team, we will not be contacting

[Pamela Krueger, MSN, RN]: parents or the contact number unless it's a true emergency. So it

[Pamela Krueger, MSN, RN]: will be important that sponsor is with the child, the Pathfinder,

[Pamela Krueger, MSN, RN]: so they can relay that information back. Please share with your

[Pamela Krueger, MSN, RN]: parents of the Pathfinders and the contact persons of all campers that

[Pamela Krueger, MSN, RN]: during this camperee, they need to keep their cell phones on and

[Pamela Krueger, MSN, RN]: close to them and to please answer unrecognizable numbers. Medical

[Pamela Krueger, MSN, RN]: team, if we do need to call, maybe calling from their personal

[Pamela Krueger, MSN, RN]: cell phone or we may call from a landline and it will come across

[Pamela Krueger, MSN, RN]: as an unknown number. Sometimes it may even show up as spam, but

[Pamela Krueger, MSN, RN]: please answer those calls. We will identify ourselves and let them

[Pamela Krueger, MSN, RN]: know why we are calling. So in that binder, keep a copy of your camper's

[Pamela Krueger, MSN, RN]: medical form, a copy of the camper's insurance card, and a copy

[Pamela Krueger, MSN, RN]: of the parent's contact information. Medications. This is hugely important

[Pamela Krueger, MSN, RN]: for both our adults and for the Pathfinders. If you have campers

[Pamela Krueger, MSN, RN]: that are diabetic, if you have campers that take blood pressure

[Pamela Krueger, MSN, RN]: medication, if you have campers that have asthma, if you have

[Pamela Krueger, MSN, RN]: campers that are allergic to bees or nuts or anything else,

[Pamela Krueger, MSN, RN]: please make sure that you... have all that medication packed,

[Pamela Krueger, MSN, RN]: bring enough for the length of time that you'll be gone and

[Pamela Krueger, MSN, RN]: some extra. We wanna make sure that you don't run out, make sure

[Pamela Krueger, MSN, RN]: that you have that on your checklist of things to pack and that

[Pamela Krueger, MSN, RN]: you check your luggage prior to leaving. For your diabetics, you wanna

[Pamela Krueger, MSN, RN]: make sure it includes their testing equipment. And if they are using...

[Pamela Krueger, MSN, RN]: a disc that's connected to their cell phone to make sure they've got

[Pamela Krueger, MSN, RN]: cell phone chargers and all the things that they need with that.

[Pamela Krueger, MSN, RN]: Also be aware that the altitude is high. It's somewhere around

[Pamela Krueger, MSN, RN]: that close to 4500, 5000 feet and you will feel short of breath

[Pamela Krueger, MSN, RN]: even without exertion. That's just a natural thing. that you'll feel

[Pamela Krueger, MSN, RN]: while you're out there. You may acclimate by about the end of

[Pamela Krueger, MSN, RN]: the camperee, but be prepared for that shortness of breath. So

[Pamela Krueger, MSN, RN]: those are just some basic things that we believe as a medical team

[Pamela Krueger, MSN, RN]: will help to create a more pleasant and successful camperee

[Cindy Aguinaga, BSN,]: Thank

[Pamela Krueger, MSN, RN]: with regard to the medical component. My information is on the

[Pamela Krueger, MSN, RN]: website, so.

[Cindy Aguinaga, BSN,]: you.

[Pamela Krueger, MSN, RN]: Anyone can feel free to email me or call me with any medical questions

[Pamela Krueger, MSN, RN]: that we have, and I will answer or direct to Dr. Mayer and Cindy

[Pamela Krueger, MSN, RN]: as appropriate. Thank you very much. I will now turn this over to

[Pamela Krueger, MSN, RN]: Cindy, who will talk to you about our first responders.

[David]: Thank you.

[Dr. David Mayor]: I'm glad you said, Pam, first responders. We called it EMS and in the past,

[Dr. David Mayor]: we've had some of our EMS providers that are excellent at what they do

[Dr. David Mayor]: and they've worked in some pretty challenging places. So they have a lot

[Dr. David Mayor]: of experience. And in this location, they're more acting in a first responder

[Dr. David Mayor]: role. So Cindy will address that as to what we do and how we approach this.

[Cindy Aguinaga, BSN,]: Hi everyone. Our first responders will consist of they can be paramedics,

[Cindy Aguinaga, BSN,]: EMTs, nurses, everybody likes to help and go on the golf carts. They'll

[Cindy Aguinaga, BSN,]: be assigned. It's just a fun thing to do.

[Pamela Krueger, MSN, RN]: I'm gonna go.

[Cindy Aguinaga, BSN,]: They'll be assigned to specific areas. We're going to divide up

[Cindy Aguinaga, BSN,]: the camp so that they're not going from one end to the other end. They

[Cindy Aguinaga, BSN,]: will be there to assist if needed, treat first aid treats, they got

[Cindy Aguinaga, BSN,]: blisters, you know, whatever the case may be. Or even if they're,

[Cindy Aguinaga, BSN,]: you know, they're having an allergic reaction, they can help and assist

[Cindy Aguinaga, BSN,]: the camper with their EpiPen or their inhaler or get them to their

[Cindy Aguinaga, BSN,]: camp fast enough so they can use their own equipment, their own

[Cindy Aguinaga, BSN,]: medications. If need be, they will be transported to the medical

[Cindy Aguinaga, BSN,]: building for a more in-depth assessment and or transported to the

[Cindy Aguinaga, BSN,]: community hospital. We're trying not to do that so we don't.

[Cindy Aguinaga, BSN,]: overwhelm the medical system. They will all be trained in CPR. They'll

[Cindy Aguinaga, BSN,]: know how to use the AED that they'll be having, any true emergencies,

[Cindy Aguinaga, BSN,]: traumas. We will dispatch for our dispatch dispatchers to call 911 to

[Cindy Aguinaga, BSN,]: have EMS out if need be. Hopefully we won't need that.

[Dr. David Mayor]: I'm glad you brought that up, Cindy. I don't know if we put that down,

[Dr. David Mayor]: but

[Dr. David Mayor]: our dispatchers at the medical unit will be doing the ones to call 911. We

[Dr. David Mayor]: don't want everybody to call 911 if there's a situation. We will direct

[Dr. David Mayor]: it through the medical, and then if 911 is appropriate, we'll go from there.

[Dr. David Mayor]: Otherwise, our first responders will... respond first and these golf carts

[Dr. David Mayor]: are going to be not looking exactly like golf carts because we're repurposing

[Dr. David Mayor]: them for their first responder carts.

[Cindy Aguinaga, BSN,]: They'll have enough equipment and the knowledge to sustain, stabilize

[Cindy Aguinaga, BSN,]: the camper or volunteer as needed till EMS gets there. Also, I also

[Cindy Aguinaga, BSN,]: want to reiterate that, you know, the golf carts are there to help

[Cindy Aguinaga, BSN,]: for medical needs. We are not going to be... We're not, you know,

[Cindy Aguinaga, BSN,]: they can't just jump on and we're not going to transport them from

[Cindy Aguinaga, BSN,]: point A to point B because they're tired. We're all tired. So it's only

[Cindy Aguinaga, BSN,]: rides that are needed. What else can I tell you?

[Dr. David Mayor]: It's hard to say no if somebody says, well, I'd like a ride here.

[Cindy Aguinaga, BSN,]: Yeah.

[Dr. David Mayor]: It's hard to say no. So I think if each club lets their campers know

[Dr. David Mayor]: that when they see a EMS car, that they're on their rotations and they

[Dr. David Mayor]: should just let them do their job and not ask, oh, I just want to go here

[Dr. David Mayor]: or there. Just please don't do that.

[Cindy Aguinaga, BSN,]: Yeah. Also in regards to our EMS personnel, our first responder personnel,

[Cindy Aguinaga, BSN,]: is that they will be using what's in our jump bag only. They will

[Cindy Aguinaga, BSN,]: not be permitted to bring their own personal supplies. We want

[Cindy Aguinaga, BSN,]: to make sure everything is consistent. and know the radio frequencies,

[Cindy Aguinaga, BSN,]: whatever, whoever they need to contact. So everything will be, we'll

[Cindy Aguinaga, BSN,]: make sure that everybody has access to a radio, their golf cart, their

[Cindy Aguinaga, BSN,]: junk bag. Um. I can't think of anything else that we could do.

[Pamela Krueger, MSN, RN]: So one of the things that I wanted to add, lesson learned from prior

[Pamela Krueger, MSN, RN]: camperees in what created some backlog in the medical building

[Pamela Krueger, MSN, RN]: was getting the campers back to their campsite after they've been seen

[Pamela Krueger, MSN, RN]: and treated at the medical building. So we will have designated

[Pamela Krueger, MSN, RN]: golf carts and volunteer drivers that will take the campers who have

[Pamela Krueger, MSN, RN]: been seen and treated at the medical building. back to their site.

[Pamela Krueger, MSN, RN]: If somebody has a sprained ankle, it's pretty not nice of us

[Pamela Krueger, MSN, RN]: to say, now hobble back half

[Cindy Aguinaga, BSN,]: I'm

[Pamela Krueger, MSN, RN]: a mile

[Cindy Aguinaga, BSN,]: sorry.

[Pamela Krueger, MSN, RN]: to your campsite. And so we do have that service provided. And

[Pamela Krueger, MSN, RN]: one of our goals as the medical leadership team is to really

[Pamela Krueger, MSN, RN]: make this a positive experience. We love our volunteers. We've made

[Pamela Krueger, MSN, RN]: some lifelong friendships working with the volunteers. And it's important

[Pamela Krueger, MSN, RN]: that our medical volunteers come with a positive attitude, come

[Pamela Krueger, MSN, RN]: ready to serve Jesus, come ready to be tired, to

[Cindy Aguinaga, BSN,]: Thank you.

[Pamela Krueger, MSN, RN]: be exhausted, to be blessed and to be a blessing. So, you know,

[Pamela Krueger, MSN, RN]: it's hard for us that have been in the medical profession for

[Pamela Krueger, MSN, RN]: a long time not to practice at the top of our license. None of

[Pamela Krueger, MSN, RN]: us will be practicing with the full capability that we have done

[Pamela Krueger, MSN, RN]: in our professional life. And And that can be a little hard for

[Pamela Krueger, MSN, RN]: some people to deal with. So we very much appreciate our volunteers,

[Pamela Krueger, MSN, RN]: and we ask that our volunteers be positive about working in the

[Pamela Krueger, MSN, RN]: parameters that we have established for them. And if that doesn't

[Pamela Krueger, MSN, RN]: work, then there may be other opportunities for them to volunteer

[Pamela Krueger, MSN, RN]: elsewhere on the grounds. But we really need to maintain our...

[Pamela Krueger, MSN, RN]: We need to do what we say we're going to do and not overstep our

[Pamela Krueger, MSN, RN]: bounds.

[Cindy Aguinaga, BSN,]: Mm-hmm.

[Pamela Krueger, MSN, RN]: And we want Gillette to want us back.

[Cindy Aguinaga, BSN,]: Absolutely.

[David]: Amen.

[Dr. David Mayor]: Yeah, I think we said last time and it went smoother. We started out saying,

[Dr. David Mayor]: absolutely no grumbling or complaining. And that like we did with

[Cindy Aguinaga, BSN,]: Mm-hmm.

[Dr. David Mayor]: our kids, no whining. But

[Pamela Krueger, MSN, RN]: Ha ha ha!

[Dr. David Mayor]: if you have a complaint, we'll have a complaint meeting the week after

[Dr. David Mayor]: Camporee. If you'd like to come to that, you can.

[David]: I'm going to go to bed.

[Dr. David Mayor]: Otherwise, if you're overwhelmingly feel unsatisfied or something, I'll be glad

[Dr. David Mayor]: to write you a note that says, thank you for your interest in our, being

[Dr. David Mayor]: part of our medical care. We hope you enjoy the camperee.

[David]: Well, thank you so much. These are really, really important notes and points that

[David]: you shared with us. Thank each of you for your expertise and coordinating such an

[David]: incredibly large endeavor. I caught water. That's something that our campers need

[David]: to be prepared for. Our clubs need to remind people water, water. They're

[Cindy Aguinaga, BSN,]: Thank

[David]: not

[Cindy Aguinaga, BSN,]: you.

[David]: going to want to as much as they need to. So we need to emphasize that. Being prepared

[David]: for the sun. the hot and the cold. We could be experiencing both hot and being

[David]: prepared for cold as well. Lots and lots of walking. One of the things I like about

[David]: this campground is that it is maybe organized in a more centralized way.

[Pamela Krueger, MSN, RN]: Uh-huh.

[David]: I'm excited about what that might mean for some of our campers not having to cross

[David]: like from the very far end to get to one thing. A little more centralized. However.

[David]: It's you can't bring this many people anywhere and not have to do a lot of walking.

[David]: Uh, it's a lot of people, so it's a lot of space. We will be doing lots of walking.

[David]: So those dry socks and the right shoes, really, really important to get that in our

[David]: planning process. And then thank you so much again for just outlining the sort of

[David]: the big picture strategy of what is the purpose of your team. What are you trying

[David]: to achieve and how that integrates into the local community? Because if our club

[David]: leaders

[Cindy Aguinaga, BSN,]: Thank you.

[David]: can kind of be on that same strategy, if they can prepare parents for that as well,

[David]: that'll be really, really important. Going in with the right information. We'll

[David]: talk a little more about insurance in just a minute. But having those medical

[David]: releases, parent information, contact information. ahead of time, really, really

[David]: important. Um, I appreciated your do not leave home without comments

[Pamela Krueger, MSN, RN]: I'm going to go ahead and close the video.

[David]: for medication inhalers and whatnot.

[Cindy Aguinaga, BSN,]: Yeah.

[David]: Um, and just thank you so much for sharing with us, you know, what the overall

[David]: strategy is.

[Pamela Krueger, MSN, RN]: If I could add one more thing,

[David]: Peace.

[Pamela Krueger, MSN, RN]: the more I talk, the more I think of things and I will update

[Pamela Krueger, MSN, RN]: the PowerPoint as well to add this information. One of the things

[Pamela Krueger, MSN, RN]: that will be different from my understanding in Gillette and what

[Pamela Krueger, MSN, RN]: has been in Oshkosh is that the golf cart traffic is not going

[Pamela Krueger, MSN, RN]: to be integrated with the foot traffic. So golf cart traffic

[Pamela Krueger, MSN, RN]: will be on the perimeters. Now, that being said, the medical golf carts

[Pamela Krueger, MSN, RN]: will have to be with the foot traffic. There will be times that

[Pamela Krueger, MSN, RN]: the medical golf carts need to respond quickly. And we have

[Pamela Krueger, MSN, RN]: in the past used air horns and even using air horns, we have

[Pamela Krueger, MSN, RN]: struggled with the foot traffic moving out of the way. So as Pathfinder

[Pamela Krueger, MSN, RN]: leaders and adult sponsors, when you hear those air horns coming,

[Pamela Krueger, MSN, RN]: it's in the best interest of everyone's safety to move out of

[Pamela Krueger, MSN, RN]: the way of the golf cart. as well as it will allow us to get to

[Pamela Krueger, MSN, RN]: where we need to go more quickly to deal with that potential

[Pamela Krueger, MSN, RN]: medical emergency.

[David]: Yeah,

[Cindy Aguinaga, BSN,]: and work. True.

[David]: that's

[Dr. David Mayor]: There.

[David]: part of being a good pathfinder is being a good citizen. And that means when there's

[David]: medical professionals or other emergency responders, you want to facilitate their ability

[David]: to do their job, your ability. So really important.

[Dr. David Mayor]: There will be a number of these medical golf carts that will be out there

[Dr. David Mayor]: with, they'll have two people in each golf cart and send the NPM. I don't

[Dr. David Mayor]: remember how many golf carts you're gonna have this time, but it's been

[Dr. David Mayor]: somewhere between six to 10 golf carts will be rotating around at all

[Dr. David Mayor]: times. So the,

[Pamela Krueger, MSN, RN]: We'll have to end it all this time.

[Dr. David Mayor]: how many? 10

[Pamela Krueger, MSN, RN]: 10 to 12,

[Dr. David Mayor]: to

[Pamela Krueger, MSN, RN]: teams.

[Dr. David Mayor]: 12, 13. So they will be present in all of the different places. Cindy's looked

[Dr. David Mayor]: over the map and is starting to put those places where they're gonna go

[Dr. David Mayor]: listed out.

[David]: Fantastic.

[Dr. David Mayor]: soon to come.

[David]: Well, you know, if you think of more things, you don't hesitate to speak up as we

[David]: keep moving forward here. I want to touch on you mentioned insurance and some folks

[David]: are curious about when is the insurance going to be available and what does that look

[David]: like? So we Adventist Risk Management does prepare an insurance policy for campers

[David]: to purchase in advance of the camperee. And that should be available for us to purchase

[David]: starting sometime. April 1st is what we're shooting for of this year. There is a

[David]: United States based for an insurance policy for United States based clubs and attendees.

[David]: And again, it's for accidents and emergency illness. The coverage dates are for the actual

[David]: days of the camperee, August 5 through 11. with additional days for the direct travel

[David]: to and from the Camperee. You know, the Camperee is an amazing event. Getting to

[David]: and from the Camperee is also part of the adventure. And we always hear great

[David]: stories of the interesting that happen, things that happen on the way to or from the

[David]: Camperee. The cost is $9.61 per individual. But for every application that's made, It's

[David]: there's a $20 fee that that's really important to know. And I'm giving you like

[David]: an inside clue here a way to hack the system. Don't buy them one at a time. Make

[David]: sure that you get your whole club on there or even combined with multiple clubs

[David]: to have as many people on there. So you pay the application fee that flat fee just

[David]: once I would actually encourage you to do it as close to your travel dates as possible.

[David]: as well. I almost never tell people to wait to the last minute to do things because

[David]: it's not normally a great practice but in this case if you have somebody adding

[David]: late or dropping off late you don't want to have to pay for them and go through

[David]: that experience or have to add you know a new person for nine dollars and sixty

[David]: one cents plus twenty dollars just for that one person. So I'm trying to give

[David]: you some clues here on how you can maximize your dollars a little bit on that.

[David]: That policy includes accidental death and dismemberment, limit about $50,000, accident

[David]: medical expense of $50,000, sickness medical of $10,000, repatriation of remains

[David]: for $50,000, emergency medical evacuation for $50,000. There's no deductible and it is

[David]: primary cover. So if you are sending your kids to this campery, I highly encourage

[David]: your club to make sure you have that in place for everyone. And again, that is for

[David]: US based clubs. Alright, that is also what I call a little bit of a goodwill policy

[David]: because if something does happen to your camper along the way, this is a policy

[David]: that can respond without parents having to feel like they have to bring a grievance

[David]: to your organization. There's no lawsuits involved. There's no complaints. It's, yep,

[David]: there's a policy in place. There's money that can respond, and that's a positive

[David]: goodwill building kind of experience. So I like that about it. If you are bringing

[David]: a club from, let's say, outside of the United States, Canada, or pretty much anywhere

[David]: else in the world, we have another type of insurance policy called short-term

[David]: travel. which we encourage you to use anytime you're traveling outside of your home

[David]: country, uh, really important coverage. And that is already available at Adventistrisk.org.

[David]: We're going to, of course, share links to the Camperee website, to short-term travel,

[David]: uh, to our PowerPoint presentation, supporting documents and anything else we,

[David]: we can think of to add value to your experience. in the show notes so that you have

[David]: access to everything here, all the details. Our medical team already mentioned

[David]: the permission and release forms, really, really important on the medical side. Also

[David]: just really important that people release, provide a release, consent to participate.

[David]: It's really, really important for parents to say, hey, I know what kind of my kids are

[David]: going to be involved in. And this is something they can do. And I've given permission

[David]: for them to get into that because, you know, good, good activities and good adventures

[David]: for kids sometimes mean some element of risk, some potential hazard. And we want

[David]: our kids to grow and become strong and competent, but we want to do that within

[David]: sort of their ability. So, um, it's important for our parents to review that. and

[David]: for them to have a clear idea of what it is that they're signing off on. So really,

[David]: I always try to remind folks whenever you're handing out that kind of release form,

[David]: make sure people know

[Cindy Aguinaga, BSN,]: Thank you.

[David]: what they're signing and make sure the authorized people are signing it. This

[David]: is not something you can do on behalf of a parent. I have heard of that happening.

[David]: That needs to be very much avoided. Do not do not sign on behalf of. the person

[David]: who should be signing. It must be the legal parent or guardian of the child. And

[David]: then keep copies as was indicated by the medical team. Really good to keep those

[David]: copies, multiple copies in a binder available and secure. You don't want it so

[David]: secure you can't get to it, but you do want it to be secure so that people can't

[David]: just thumb through information that doesn't really relevant to them. Just a couple

[David]: notes. Oh, please. Yes.

[Dr. David Mayor]: Yeah, I was just, you brought up paperwork and things. There have been people

[Dr. David Mayor]: wanting to sign on as volunteers for medical. The sign on process is still being

[Dr. David Mayor]: tweaked and developed because it does have to feather in and coordinate with

[Dr. David Mayor]: Department of Homeland Security with Wyoming. So we're putting those pieces

[Dr. David Mayor]: together. I'd encourage people that are interested in medical to probably

[Dr. David Mayor]: start looking at their sign in and being able to get a time slot of when

[Dr. David Mayor]: they'd like to be part of the medical team, probably at the end of the

[Dr. David Mayor]: month or the first part of March. Would you say that would be the timeframe,

[Dr. David Mayor]: Pam and Cindy would be, that seems to be a time when we're gonna be able

[Dr. David Mayor]: to pull everything together.

[Pamela Krueger, MSN, RN]: That's that is our goal. And in looking at just kind of to put

[Pamela Krueger, MSN, RN]: things in perspective, from the number of volunteers that we need

[Pamela Krueger, MSN, RN]: from the medical team for first responders, physicians, nurses,

[Pamela Krueger, MSN, RN]: support staff, we're looking at 200 volunteers per day for the camp

[Pamela Krueger, MSN, RN]: re. So that's kind of our yes, that's our scope.

[Cindy Aguinaga, BSN,]: Thanks.

[Pamela Krueger, MSN, RN]: So We've been very blessed so far. I think people are now able

[Pamela Krueger, MSN, RN]: to figure out their schedule for this year,

[Cindy Aguinaga, BSN,]: Thank you.

[Pamela Krueger, MSN, RN]: take vacation that time, that type of thing. So we are getting

[Pamela Krueger, MSN, RN]: more medical volunteer interest, which is wonderful. But as Dr. Mayer

[Pamela Krueger, MSN, RN]: said, to get that done now will be much more beneficial than

[Pamela Krueger, MSN, RN]: waiting. That we don't wanna wait to the last minute.

[David]: Yeah. No, not on that one. Ha ha. really good point and nice to know that there's that

[David]: coordination with the state of Wyoming it really you guys have a very comprehensive

[David]: program going that's well designed so appreciate that just a few notes on transportation

[David]: if you are driving or whatever your chosen method of transportation to get to and

[David]: from the camperee really do take care your driver selection make sure that you are

[David]: choosing really good drivers Enough drivers you cannot have somebody drive for

[David]: you know indefinite number of hours and expect them to Be clear-headed and be able

[David]: to avoid some potential emergency on the road as it may come up you need people

[David]: who are fresh and Give them breaks switch them out and that they have good driving

[David]: records. If you're renting a vehicle, please do pick up the rental insurance from

[David]: the renting agency. You can work with your conference if you have questions about

[David]: that. And also, if you're driving in from another country, I know being from Canada

[David]: originally, when I drive up to Canada, I actually get a special card from my insurance

[David]: company that lets The Canadian authorities know that yes, in fact, my insurance does apply

[David]: in Canada. It's not necessarily automatic. So you should work with your company as well

[David]: to make sure if you're coming from outside of the United States that any of those

[David]: requirements are covered. Also make sure that we provide adequate supervision in

[David]: vehicles. Let's say you're coming in a bus. And you've got, you know, quite a load

[David]: of campers on that bus and some volunteers. Make sure that at least two adults are paying

[David]: attention at all times. Really, really important to provide effective supervision.

[David]: I have to say when we're traveling, especially traveling at night, these are opportunity

[David]: zones for disaster. So it's really important for us to be extra vigilant when

[David]: we're in these, these... I call them sort of these gray moments, right? Where we

[David]: have a more of a challenge of supervision. It's a little harder to pay attention. That's

[David]: that's when some things tend to fall through the cracks. So please do be vigilant

[David]: about that as I know you are you are our partners in this as it is just a few golf

[David]: cart safety rules. This was already mentioned a few a few minutes ago, but also

[David]: Just watch out where you're driving. Make sure that as you're driving along in a

[David]: golf cart, if you are driving a golf cart, that you're really caring for the other

[David]: carts, the pedestrians, you're watching out for vehicles, that kind of thing. Riders

[David]: should be limited to the number of seats. riders should be limited to the number

[David]: of seats and speed limits must be followed. I know those two are really hard for us to

[David]: remember sometimes so we really need to emphasize that as leaders and help make

[David]: sure that we remind each other and hold each other accountable in a Christian

[David]: way. Follow directions from our safety security staff there's a whole other world

[David]: the security world. They are there for to keep us safe. They're there to help

[David]: us. And we really, really appreciate them. Sometimes it's hard to receive direction

[David]: from, you know, someone who's telling us to do something that we didn't wanna do

[David]: or not to go somewhere where we did wanna go. Really, really important that we

[David]: be leaders and show that cooperation with our security team. I was just in an airport

[David]: recently. And I was trying to make a connection and I had to, you know, navigate

[David]: some complicated, um, you know, you're, you're going through all these little gates

[David]: and there's different, uh, you know, guidance that they give you as far as where

[David]: you should go. And I could see where I was trying to go and I could see other people

[David]: look confused. And so I was just going along and they could stop and be confused if

[David]: they wanted to, but I knew, I knew where I wanted to go. and I received some direction

[David]: from the security in that airport, they had something else on their mind and I

[David]: didn't understand what they were, what problem they were trying to solve at the time.

[David]: But you know what? It doesn't really matter if I understand it or not. That's what

[David]: their role is. Really, really important for me to put myself aside in that moment and

[David]: say, Oh, oh, okay. This authority person is trying to solve something for someone who

[David]: needs their help. and I can help make that happen. It costs me nothing. Two seconds,

[David]: it doesn't matter. So really important for us to do that with our security staff and

[David]: our medical team as well.

[Pamela Krueger, MSN, RN]: If could I just add a couple

[David]: Please.

[Pamela Krueger, MSN, RN]: of thoughts here when you were talking about the travel and

[Pamela Krueger, MSN, RN]: my club from here in central Wisconsin, it'll be a 14 hour drive

[Pamela Krueger, MSN, RN]: for them. And what I have, they'll be going in a caravan of three

[Pamela Krueger, MSN, RN]: vehicles. And what I have told the adults, I said, you need to

[Pamela Krueger, MSN, RN]: stop every two hours, get out, run around, people sitting for prolonged

[Pamela Krueger, MSN, RN]: periods of time, you tend to... have problems, blood clots can

[Pamela Krueger, MSN, RN]: form from lack of movement, that type of thing. You tend to get

[Pamela Krueger, MSN, RN]: sleepy and groggy. So stop that every two, two and a half hours.

[Pamela Krueger, MSN, RN]: The kids will be much more tolerant of the long drive if they

[Pamela Krueger, MSN, RN]: can get out and run around as well. And another thing that my husband

[Pamela Krueger, MSN, RN]: learned the hard way is especially for men, take that wallet

[Pamela Krueger, MSN, RN]: out of your back pocket. For most men, it sits right on your

[Pamela Krueger, MSN, RN]: sciatic nerve. And before you know it, they've

[Cindy Aguinaga, BSN,]: Thank

[Pamela Krueger, MSN, RN]: got

[Cindy Aguinaga, BSN,]: you.

[Pamela Krueger, MSN, RN]: some sciatic pain running down their leg from sitting on a fat

[Pamela Krueger, MSN, RN]: wallet for hours on end. So get that wallet out of your back

[Pamela Krueger, MSN, RN]: pocket and put it someplace where it's not going to cause you

[Pamela Krueger, MSN, RN]: problems.

[David]: That's really good advice. I have experienced that pain. So I also experienced some interesting

[David]: elbow numbness because I always like to prop my elbow on the window

[Pamela Krueger, MSN, RN]: Mm-hmm.

[David]: and somehow it pinches something and halfway through a trip, I'm doing this strange

[David]: shake to loosen myself up and

[Pamela Krueger, MSN, RN]: Mm-mm. Ha ha ha.

[David]: I get laughed at. Thank you. Appreciate that. Just a note on keeping our kids safe

[David]: from abuse. You know, we have as a church some fantastic guidelines on protecting

[David]: our kids. Really, really good stuff. If you're not familiar and as a Pathfinder

[David]: leader, I hope you are. We have a lot of resources on that. The church manual outlines

[David]: it very clearly. you know, just ensure that your volunteers are properly screened

[David]: with the right reference checks, the criminal background screening. Make sure you

[David]: use the two adult rule in transportation and at the camperee. There needs to be good

[David]: supervision taking place and just know that as we go on these big adventures, there

[David]: is an increased risk. But God takes this stuff super seriously. Protecting our

[David]: kids. Whether it's from abuse or injury or a medical like a sickness type of experience.

[David]: You know, he takes it extremely seriously. I don't think Jesus ever said anything as bluntly

[David]: dare I say harshly as he did. And I think it was Luke 17 where he talks about it's

[David]: better for them. Someone who hurts children. that a millstone is put around their

[David]: neck and they're thrown into the sea. I mean, talk about some strong language. It's

[David]: harsh stuff. He would rather that than one of the little ones be hurt. So that's a

[David]: responsibility. It's an awesome responsibility, but we have incredible volunteers, club leaders,

[David]: and wonderful professionals like the medical team that's joined me here today. And

[David]: I hope that... As we are debriefing from a great camperee later this summer, we

[David]: can be reminded of the words in Matthew, Matthew 25 verse 21, his Lord said to him,

[David]: well done, thou good and faithful servant. You have been faithful over a few things, I

[David]: will make you ruler over many things, enter into the joy of thy Lord. So thank you

[David]: so much. Thank you team for joining me today and highlighting some of the incredible

[David]: plans that you guys have and the coordination, but also those points that each of our club

[David]: leaders, our volunteers need to have as they're preparing to go to the campery.

[David]: So really appreciate your thoughts today.

[Dr. David Mayor]: Thank

[Pamela Krueger, MSN, RN]: Thank

[Dr. David Mayor]: you.

[Pamela Krueger, MSN, RN]: you for having us.

[David]: Well, it was great to have you. And like we talked about,

[Cindy Aguinaga, BSN,]: Thank you.

[David]: we're going to prepare all of the sort of the links and the notes and everything so

[David]: that folks can have this. And I really, I ask that each of you watching this, share

[David]: this out with your fellow club leaders, parents, family members, who are important

[David]: stakeholders in making sure that this is a success going forward. So thank you all.

[David]: And we can't wait to see you in Gillette, Wyoming.

[Pamela Krueger, MSN, RN]: Stop by the medical building.

[David]: Thank you and goodbye.

[Cindy Aguinaga, BSN,]: Thank

[Dr. David Mayor]: Bye-bye.

[Cindy Aguinaga, BSN,]: you.

[Cindy Aguinaga, BSN,]: Thanks for watching!

[David]: All right.

[David]: It's so hard to hold that goodbye at the end.

[Cindy Aguinaga, BSN,]: Thank you.

[Cindy Aguinaga, BSN,]: Thank you.