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Understanding Identity Tolerance: A Guide for Parents of LGBTQ Teens
Episode 8818th April 2023 • Just Breathe: Parenting Your LGBTQ Teen • Heather Hester
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Today's podcast delves into stage three of the coming out process, focusing on identity and orientation tolerance. This stage is crucial as individuals begin to realize they are not alone and actively seek out supportive communities, such as LGBTQ social groups and safe online spaces. Host Heather Hester emphasizes the importance of understanding these stages to better support children and loved ones navigating their identities. She also highlights the potential challenges, such as living a double life, and the need for healthy coping mechanisms. As always, the episode encourages open communication and understanding, reminding listeners that they are not alone on this journey.

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Takeaways:

  • Stage three of the coming out process is about seeking community support and connection.
  • Understanding the stages of coming out helps parents better support their LGBTQ children.
  • Creating safe spaces for LGBTQ youth is crucial for their emotional well-being and growth.
  • Parents should encourage open conversations with their children about their feelings and identities.
  • Being aware of the challenges of a double life can help parents provide essential support.
  • Engaging with community resources can empower parents and their LGBTQ children through the coming out journey.

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Speaker A:

Welcome back my friends.

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Thank you for sharing a few minutes of your day with me today.

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So while today's topic is taking an in depth look at stage three of the coming out process, I first wanted to just remind you that if you are looking for ways to help in the nationwide effort to push back against all of the anti LGBTQ legislation and just general hate filled rhetoric that is popping up in more and more places, please check out my link tree for a list of organizations that are looking for support in multiple ways.

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I have my linked in the show notes as well as on my website.

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Welcome to Just Breathe Parenting youg LGBTQ Team, the podcast transforming the conversation around loving and raising an LGBTQ child.

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My name is Heather Hester and I am so grateful you are here.

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I want you to take a deep breath and know that for the time we are together, you are in the safety of the Just Breathe nest.

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Whether today's show is an amazing guest or me sharing stories, resources, strategies or lessons I've learned along our journey, I want you to feel like we're just hanging out at a coffee shop having a cozy chat.

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Most of all, I want you to remember that wherever you are on this journey right now, in this moment in time, you are not alone.

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So today's topic is Stage three of the coming out process.

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And as I've stated in the last two coming out episodes, the more we understand, the better we can support our kids and our loved ones.

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Knowing there is a process and understanding how to recognize behaviors and most of all knowing how to support your child where they are in this process is absolutely one of the most life enhancing things we've learned on this journey for sure.

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So let's first do a quick recap of stages one and two.

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Stage one is identity and or orientation confusion and it looks a little bit like this.

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They are asking who am I?

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They are rejecting and denying all thoughts, feelings and attractions over and over until they reach some sort of acceptance.

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They're feeling self loathing and shame, depression, anxiety, anger and isolation.

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And this stage is almost completely internal.

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So what you need to look for are the behavioral clues from the feelings I just mentioned.

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Stage two of the cast identity model is identity and orientation comparison and it looks a little bit like this.

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In this stage they are beginning to accept the possibility they are still feeling different, isolated and even possibly alienated.

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They are still wondering and perhaps hoping it is just a phase and again looking and possibly hoping for an explanation.

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If they are out, it is important to encourage them to grieve the change in Their movie reel.

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Working through the many feelings and changes will allow them to move forward in a positive way.

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If they are not out yet, know that you can walk with them back to this space, back to stage two and encourage them to talk through the many thoughts and feelings that they may have just stuffed down or shelved or put away.

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And the sooner they are able to do that, the more clarity they will have, the easier they will be able to move forward.

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So stage three of the cast identity model is identity and or orientation tolerance.

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In this stage they realize they are not alone and they begin to actively seek a gay, lesbian, bisexual, transgender or queer community or social group as a means of support.

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This is where GSAs in schools, youth programs in the community or safe spaces online become so, so very important.

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And when we're talking about safe spaces online, think about travers space or it gets better.

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Spaces like that, which are both linked on my website.

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So if this is something you think that your child would be interested in or really connect with, check it out.

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These are the types of programs that are so important to know exist and why I talk about them so often.

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The last thing we want is our adolescents and teens to be blindly looking for answers or information or so called support online.

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This is one of the many, many lessons that we learned the hard way.

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Please trust me when I tell you that you do not want your child on Grindr or any app like that, nor do you want to be on there yourself.

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It is also within this stage that some may come to terms with part of their orientation and or identity, but not fully embrace it.

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And this leads them to living a double life.

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This double life can range from something just totally benign to self loathing and shame and then possibly vacillating between who they are trying to figure out they are and the person they feel the world wants them to be.

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So essentially messy, very, very messy internally for them.

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So just be aware that this is going on.

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This discrepancy between their two lives dictates the type of coping mechanisms they need.

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And unfortunately the ones many reach for.

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Again, this is where having the background knowledge as well as resources available is so, so very helpful.

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If they feel isolated or trapped or filled with shame and loathing, they may reach for maladaptive tools.

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If they know there are other options such as therapy or online or in person groups with peers or learned tools such as breathing techniques and journaling, they are more likely to opt for that again.

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I know that most of us are learning about these stages either after the fact or while our child is a bit further down the road.

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But remember, as the parent, you can always circle back to these stages and integrate this knowledge and these tools into wherever your child may be right now.

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Get to know your community resources.

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Find out what is available, what they offer.

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Check out the resource page on my website for an extensive list of more organizations and ideas.

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And if you're really not sure what to do or where to look, reach out to me if you need help figuring out what you need or your child needs or your family needs.

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I really love to chat one on one.

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I know it is hard to see all of this when you are so close to everything that is going on.

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And remember that coming out is not a smooth, linear process as much as we would love for it to be.

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It's bumpy, it's messy.

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Remember that and give yourself the gift of a little space so that you can more easily see where your child is.

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Any break from what is going on will work.

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Whether it's a walk, a quick meditation, a drive, whatever helps you ground.

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If you feel stuck and don't know what to say when you're talking with your child, remember that Open ended questions, being curious.

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Those are the type of things that you want to lead with.

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At the end of the day.

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Our kids just want to know that we love them and that we have their backs no matter what.

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Episodes on the rest of the stages 4, 5 and 6 are coming soon in the following weeks as well as the separate process for you as parents and allies.

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In the meantime, remember to check out the show notes for the link tree, any information that I shared today, as well as my website for information on the ways you can get involved.

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For more personal support, check out my course Learning to Just Breathe.

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Purchasing the course allows you lifetime access to my weekly office hours, which I just started and I will be available there every week to answer questions, help you process, or just provide a space for you to take a breath.

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Until next time.

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Thanks so much for joining me today.

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If you enjoyed today's episode, I would be so grateful.

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For a rating or a review, click on the link in the show notes or go to my website chrysalis mama.com to stay up to date on my latest resources as well as to learn how you can work with me.

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Please share this podcast with anyone who needs to know that they are not alone and remember to just breathe.

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Until next time.

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