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Kids Can't be Fooled
Episode 3016th October 2023 • The Constitution Commandos • Chris Williams and Patrick Williams
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[01:33] The Younger Generations Attacked

[03:43] The Attack on Feminism/Womanhood

[06:03] Protect the Women

[07:23] Teachers and Parents Used to be on the same page

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Chris Williams:

I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands, one nation, under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.

Chris Williams:

What a privelege it is to live in the only country in the world where we can still breathe the fresh air of liberty.

Chris Williams:

Hey, today we have back our guest host, Joe O'Neill, retired Navy Senior Chief.

Chris Williams:

We welcome you to episode thirty.

Chris Williams:

Today we're talking about Kids Can't be Fooled.

Chris Williams:

We encourage you to share your thoughts about this episode by emailing us at podcast@theconstitutioncommandos.org I'm your host Chris Williams.

Chris Williams:

My brother Patrick is cohost and we are the Constitution Commandos.

Chris Williams:

The generation

Chris Williams:

Joe O'Neal: here that's coming out, man, I'll be honest with you.

Chris Williams:

I don't know where the fuck this country is going to go from here on out.

Chris Williams:

Because the ones that's coming up to replace us, what the hell are they going to do?

Chris Williams:

I can tell you exactly where it's going to go with this generation coming up behind us.

Chris Williams:

I hope I die before I have to be in a nursing home or have to have somebody take care of me.

Chris Williams:

Well,

Patrick Williams:

Joe, I can tell you this, the immediate generation, like my kid's age I don't even, they call them gen whatever the fucks, I don't know, man.

Chris Williams:

I think that generation of Xs, no, we're generation Xs.

Patrick Williams:

Well, I'm gonna say 35 and to about 20 and and Joe, you'll see this if you look, I don't know if you have look, but pay attention to this demographic.

Patrick Williams:

And this is something that the far left has not looked at.

Patrick Williams:

You have a bunch of people that are about to graduate high school and some of them are in their early years of, you know, after graduation, I won't say of college because the indoctrination

Patrick Williams:

continues there, but there's a lot of young people right now, you know, when they were first, second, third, fourth grade, there was only two genders.

Patrick Williams:

There was male and female, you know, back then they would have been like, they would have looked at you like you done fell off a cliff.

Patrick Williams:

Fucking wall cracked your skull.

Patrick Williams:

If you said you were a boy and wanted to be a girl, you know what I mean?

Patrick Williams:

Yeah, well, they have been forced into a very bad situation.

Patrick Williams:

A lot of these kids, you'll look at some of these young college female athletes.

Patrick Williams:

They're actually standing up to this transgender shit.

Patrick Williams:

They've always known it was bad.

Patrick Williams:

You look at these high school people and you've got kids their age that have been getting accosted in the girl's bathroom because they let some transgender in there.

Patrick Williams:

You've got little boys being sent home from school because they got the Gadsden patch on their fucking backpack.

Patrick Williams:

You got kids that are being attacked.

Patrick Williams:

They literally are being attacked for their value and their belief.

Patrick Williams:

Like if you look at.

Patrick Williams:

USA, you know, they have high school or a school age, you know, tour.

Patrick Williams:

Also, there are so many people that are in school right now.

Patrick Williams:

I'm talking about through high school, dude, they're not playing this shit.

Patrick Williams:

A lot of them are very upset.

Patrick Williams:

The current nature of our societal, I don't even want to say norms they have created.

Patrick Williams:

A whole new generation of very conservative people.

Chris Williams:

Yeah, I would agree with that.

Chris Williams:

As a matter of fact, I agree with that based on the numbers that we're getting on the podcast and believe it or not, you know, I've asked you Joe the other day, like, why are we getting more female listeners than we are male listeners?

Chris Williams:

And I think that answers that question right there, because you know, I said this before, you know, After my kids started going, you know, upper elementary and junior high school,

Chris Williams:

I started thinking there is no way I mean, I would not want to grow up as a girl and have to go to junior high and high school because I mean.

Chris Williams:

They had it rough.

Chris Williams:

I mean, even back in the eighties, we didn't notice it then.

Chris Williams:

But I mean, based on the media image of women and what they should look like or how they should act, I mean, the stress had to be phenomenally enormous.

Chris Williams:

But if you look at it now, it is a direct attack on, I hate to say feminism, but I mean, it's an attack on womanhood.

Chris Williams:

And like you had, you asked that one question one day, I just want to know where all the where are all the feminists?

Chris Williams:

Why are they not saying anything?

Chris Williams:

Joe O'Neal: They should be raising hell.

Patrick Williams:

And where are the real men?

Patrick Williams:

And I have to question the parents of these boys.

Patrick Williams:

Back when I was a kid, I stood up for girls, even if I didn't know the girl.

Patrick Williams:

I told it an ass whooping at a concert over a girl that I saw get beat around.

Chris Williams:

Oh, yeah, I remember that.

Chris Williams:

But

Patrick Williams:

where are all the boys when they see this shit going on?

Patrick Williams:

And you're right, though.

Patrick Williams:

It ain't even a demographic.

Patrick Williams:

The demographic that is the most marginalized now.

Patrick Williams:

Are young girls and I'm gonna tell you when Layla she gonna get a little older I'm getting ready to start teaching her a knife and

Chris Williams:

I'm talking about your granddaughter.

Patrick Williams:

Yeah.

Patrick Williams:

And I'm gonna go into my collection and I'm gonna tell her pick one.

Patrick Williams:

Well, not this one, this one, this one, pick one.

Patrick Williams:

I got some bad ass blade.

Chris Williams:

I know

Patrick Williams:

not all of them are up for grabs, but Oh, I got a number of Kershaw's she can pick from or I got some nice knives I'll give her and I'll tell her point blank somebody fucks with you I

Patrick Williams:

might just maybe need to teach her how to fight that way she don't get a murder rap but I might just teach her how to fight she's already the toughest one out of the

Patrick Williams:

three but well yeah I don't I want her to stand up for herself and Caden needs to be right there right with her beat that ass and somebody misses with his siblings

Chris Williams:

Exactly.

Chris Williams:

Well, not just as siblings.

Chris Williams:

I mean, you know, I mean, we were trying, I mean, we weren't, I don't think it was something that was laid out in paper and pen about, you know, how boys are supposed to be with girls and you're supposed to protect as the Bible says.

Chris Williams:

So, and if you women out there that want to get offended, just go read the Bible.

Chris Williams:

Men are designed to protect with weaker sex.

Chris Williams:

Okay.

Chris Williams:

This is what the bible says.

Chris Williams:

So, if you get offended about being the weaker sex, then maybe you need to go swim with people like Leah Thomas, okay?

Chris Williams:

The thing is, though, I mean, like I said, it wasn't just, I mean, we weren't probably directly taught this.

Chris Williams:

But, in our case, Patrick, you know, in the family we grew up in, You protect the women.

Chris Williams:

Period.

Chris Williams:

You protect the women.

Chris Williams:

And you don't let anything happen to them.

Chris Williams:

And I've said this before, there's some pretty strong women out there.

Chris Williams:

And there's some women out there that can do some pretty bad ass shit.

Chris Williams:

But, those are the type of women you say, Look, I don't think you can't handle it.

Chris Williams:

I just don't think you should have to.

Chris Williams:

And thing is, yeah, we're seeing women being accosted in public places, at concerts, in front of emcees, and I mean, Mississippi College for those of you who don't know, and jump in the way of it.

Chris Williams:

Take an ass whooping for the girls, I mean, whatever.

Chris Williams:

You know what I mean?

Chris Williams:

Just don't let her keep getting beat on because she's supposed to be now the Bible does say weaker sex but if you like a better word the fairer sex and the thing is we grew up that way

Chris Williams:

and I think like you were talking about there's a generation coming up that is has actually been forced into this way of thinking they don't like it and whether it's inherent or taught or whatever.

Chris Williams:

It doesn't matter.

Chris Williams:

They don't like it.

Chris Williams:

You know, when I was

Chris Williams:

Joe O'Neal: going to school, I'm the last of the baby boomers, 64.

Chris Williams:

All right.

Chris Williams:

When I was going to school, the same thing that your grandfather, your great grandfather and your dad, mom, they taught the same thing in school.

Chris Williams:

The teachers was teaching the same thing.

Chris Williams:

They was all on one page.

Chris Williams:

Now that's not the case.

Chris Williams:

You know, the parents may be teaching something, but when they go to school, they tell them.

Chris Williams:

Oh, no, that's wrong.

Chris Williams:

Don't listen to your parents.

Chris Williams:

Don't listen to your parents.

Chris Williams:

Well, you know what?

Chris Williams:

That's fucked up.

Chris Williams:

Yeah.

Chris Williams:

Oh, well, I think that is really the last.

Chris Williams:

I would like to thank the last stage.

Chris Williams:

I think that's the last stage of destroying the nuclear family, which I believe started with women's lead and You know, I've been called a chauvinist pig over this before, but I mean, Women's Lib

Chris Williams:

was really, to me anyway, the beginning of tearing up the nuclear family because when Women's Lib started, now women can go to work, they're competing for salary, and who's at home taking care of the kids?

Chris Williams:

Nobody.

Chris Williams:

Right.

Chris Williams:

Or nanny or whatever, you know, they're learning values from somebody else when they should be learning it from the parents.

Chris Williams:

And so I think this is the final stage of actually tearing up the nuclear family.

Chris Williams:

I mean, look, they're telling, I mean, Kansas, Kansas city is now a sanctuary state for kids.

Chris Williams:

Kids to go have that transgender operation.

Chris Williams:

That means I can send these kids to Kansas city and the parents can't do anything about it.

Chris Williams:

Oh

Patrick Williams:

yeah.

Patrick Williams:

That's very good.

Patrick Williams:

Oh yeah.

Chris Williams:

They better be glad it didn't start to ship when my kids were in school, because I mean, if any teacher had ever told my kids, you do whatever you want to, you don't have to ask your parents.

Chris Williams:

There'd be a lynching on the football field right now.

Chris Williams:

Nah, I'd took my ass straight

Chris Williams:

Joe O'Neal: to that school and whip their

Chris Williams:

ass.

Chris Williams:

Like I

Patrick Williams:

said.

Patrick Williams:

That's right, that's me.

Patrick Williams:

Yeah, they'd walk around with a limp

Chris Williams:

for the rest of their life.

Chris Williams:

I mean.

Chris Williams:

I

Patrick Williams:

ain't lying.

Patrick Williams:

Every time you.

Chris Williams:

That's right.

Chris Williams:

And parents, the parents that are now standing up and trying to fight, and this is, I said this in a roundabout sort of way as much as directly.

Chris Williams:

Too little, too late is better than nothing at all.

Chris Williams:

A little bit, yeah.

Chris Williams:

But just about everything we're seeing right now is going to be too little, too late.

Chris Williams:

And you look at the parents going to school board meetings now, and they're not just telling the school board, stop teaching my kids this shit.

Chris Williams:

They're reading it straight from the school curriculum, and the school board's telling them to shut up, right?

Chris Williams:

Yeah.

Chris Williams:

Okay, so it's good enough for my kids to hear, but these adults sitting in this room can't?

Chris Williams:

Are you serious?

Chris Williams:

So now parents are getting kicked out of school board meetings.

Chris Williams:

Or going to jail.

Chris Williams:

Going to jail because they're now domestic terrorists.

Chris Williams:

And all they want is what's best for their kids.

Chris Williams:

It may be a little too late, but parents keep going to these school board meetings.

Chris Williams:

I mean, give them hell.

Chris Williams:

Give them hell.

Chris Williams:

And

Chris Williams:

Joe O'Neal: don't let up.

Chris Williams:

And you know, we gotta start at the local level.

Chris Williams:

And go up.

Chris Williams:

This deep state has infiltrated all the way down through the state.

Chris Williams:

I mean, just down to local.

Chris Williams:

I mean, it's down.

Chris Williams:

Yeah, it's down at the lowest level, you know, where they're trying to change your ideologies on how you think they want to program our kids and stuff.

Chris Williams:

And it took generations to get here and just to this country to get this fucked up.

Chris Williams:

And I hate to say it, and I hope these kids stand up and change it.

Chris Williams:

It's going to take generations to change it.

Chris Williams:

It's not going to be no quick, there is no quick

Chris Williams:

fix.

Chris Williams:

Well, I think Patrick had a good solution for the quick fix.

Chris Williams:

Well, I got one too.

Chris Williams:

Well, well, you know, he started talking about deporting people and, and, and look, I have to agree.

Chris Williams:

That's one of the first things that's got to happen in this country.

Chris Williams:

We've got to have a mass exodus of people getting out of this country that aren't supposed to be here.

Chris Williams:

First secure

Patrick Williams:

the wall, then start the

Chris Williams:

deportation.

Chris Williams:

Then start the deportation.

Chris Williams:

But then even in the generations of people who are anti American, who are born American, they can find another citizenship, get rid

Chris Williams:

Joe O'Neal: of them.

Chris Williams:

Yeah, all these damn like Whoopi Goldberg, she said, if Trump gets elected, I'm going to leave the country.

Chris Williams:

Hell, why wait?

Chris Williams:

Well, shit, let me

Chris Williams:

help her pack her bags.

Chris Williams:

Why wait?

Chris Williams:

Fucking leave now, bitch.

Chris Williams:

Go ahead.

Chris Williams:

I mean, every last one of them.

Chris Williams:

Every last one of them, and quite frankly, you know, and look, we'd always talk about the health hazards of this illegal immigration.

Chris Williams:

We talk about the, you know, we're not, you know, our citizens can't even support it.

Chris Williams:

We can't support them health wise.

Chris Williams:

We can't, we're not equipped, not because we can't be equipped, but at this very moment, we are not equipped.

Chris Williams:

And so what, what essentially is happening now is 190 other countries represented here as illegal aliens.

Chris Williams:

They're bringing all their principles, their values with them, destroying the identity of the American people.

Chris Williams:

I mean, in what world is that even acceptable?

Chris Williams:

Well,

Chris Williams:

Joe O'Neal: all you gotta do is look back at history.

Chris Williams:

That's exactly what happened to the Roman empire.

Chris Williams:

Exactly.

Chris Williams:

Joe O'Neal: And they tried to assimilate them, but they allowed them to Worship their gods, have their own local laws and stuff like that, and, and finally they come apart.

Chris Williams:

If we don't stand up, I ain't got no problems with people coming over here legally and doing it right, you know, and then realize that you are, now you're an American.

Chris Williams:

I don't give a fuck if you come from Mexico, or India,

Chris Williams:

Sri Lanka, anywhere, Russia,

Chris Williams:

Joe O'Neal: who cares?

Chris Williams:

Now you're here.

Chris Williams:

Now you got to learn American values and teach that to your kids.

Chris Williams:

Learn how to speak English, even if you got a goddamn accent, you know, and your store smells like you pissed all over yourself when you go in.

Chris Williams:

You know, hey.

Chris Williams:

Well, I mean, and that's right.

Chris Williams:

You

Patrick Williams:

celebrate your heritage.

Patrick Williams:

You want to open up a taco stand or a Mexican restaurant to preserve your culture?

Patrick Williams:

Yeah, that's no problem.

Patrick Williams:

That's your heritage?

Patrick Williams:

Yeah.

Patrick Williams:

Yeah, that's no problem, but you're an American.

Patrick Williams:

Right.

Patrick Williams:

Well, you

Chris Williams:

look at people, you got New York and California, the two states that I know the most have their own Chinatown, right?

Chris Williams:

And they do have their heritage right there.

Chris Williams:

And that's fine.

Chris Williams:

I think it's great that they can do that.

Chris Williams:

But even they know they're still Americans.

Chris Williams:

And the thing is, you know, the biggest difference between illegal immigration and legal immigration, legal immigrants come here for a reason.

Chris Williams:

Probably because it just won't be here.

Chris Williams:

But they do go through the process of becoming an American.

Chris Williams:

Part of that process is learning the Constitution of the United States.

Chris Williams:

And passing a test.

Chris Williams:

Oh yeah, and they don't just...

Chris Williams:

And look, this isn't a pass or fail type of test.

Chris Williams:

This isn't a make a 70 and you'll make it type of test.

Chris Williams:

You got a very high score on this thing to pass the test.

Chris Williams:

And it's not a, it's not an easy test.

Chris Williams:

They're not grading on the curve.

Chris Williams:

No.

Chris Williams:

When you have someone come here that does go through the process, like a couple of people that I know personally, or actually more than a couple, but you know, these people came over here because they love the American values.

Chris Williams:

You know, they love the, the.

Chris Williams:

The idea that they can have something for themselves and they can take care of their families and they don't have to worry about, you know, drug lords coming and kidnapping their sons and putting guns in their hands.

Chris Williams:

None of that.

Chris Williams:

And they're proud to be Americans.

Chris Williams:

Joe O'Neal: Yeah, proud.

Chris Williams:

And you know that that one there is one.

Chris Williams:

And I don't mind mentioning his name.

Chris Williams:

I hope he doesn't mind.

Chris Williams:

I hope he's listening to because I'd like to talk to him again.

Chris Williams:

But man's name is Carlos.

Chris Williams:

And the first time I met him, it kind of gave me a little bit of.

Chris Williams:

That weird feeling like, what is this guy staring at, right?

Chris Williams:

And after a few minutes of talking, he sat in my living room probably an hour before he ever said anything to me, and he said, I was like, oh, my hat.

Chris Williams:

I forgot I was wearing my hat.

Chris Williams:

He's like, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Chris Williams:

I mean, he said, he jumps up, walks across the living room, grabs my hand.

Chris Williams:

He said, thank you so much.

Chris Williams:

I said, for what?

Chris Williams:

What did I do?

Chris Williams:

And he said, you're a veteran.

Chris Williams:

And I said, I don't get it.

Chris Williams:

He said, I'm a veteran too.

Chris Williams:

And I said, well, thank you for your service.

Chris Williams:

He said, I'm a veteran of another country's army.

Chris Williams:

He said, back during the Contra deal, Y'all were sending us, you know, special forces, the CIA with weapons and teaching us how to train the contract.

Chris Williams:

He said, and that's what I was.

Chris Williams:

He said, basically, I was a liaison.

Chris Williams:

They were training me how to train my guys.

Chris Williams:

He said, and once I got them trained up, he said, I was so impressed.

Chris Williams:

And, you know, he, he pretty much always loved what the country has over here.

Chris Williams:

He said, I was so impressed with the guys that y'all sent, the weapons you sent, and how y'all, you know, were very diligent about making sure we could stand and fight.

Chris Williams:

He said, I applied for citizenship in America, and, and this guy.

Chris Williams:

His a lot of his family members were actually recruited by El Chapo.

Chris Williams:

And I don't, you know, if you know anything about El Chapo or anything about Mexican mafia or any of that, they don't recruit.

Chris Williams:

They give you an option.

Chris Williams:

You'll either do this or you'll die.

Chris Williams:

And that's the way it works.

Chris Williams:

And he's had several family members that were quote, recruited by El Chapo.

Chris Williams:

But when you see a grown man with tears in his eyes, because he appreciates and loves The fact that he could live in this country, that makes me feel kind of bad because there's so many Americans that just don't even get it.

Chris Williams:

Yeah, they're not even

Chris Williams:

Joe O'Neal: lettin recruiters go to public schools and recruit.

Chris Williams:

I was readin the, the, the new command master chief petty officer of the Navy, and he said that they, these schools will let anybody come in.

Chris Williams:

If you wanna talk about cuttin your dick off and becoming a girl or, or...

Chris Williams:

Having a dick sewed on, that's fine, but if a military recruiter goes and approaches the school to, Hey, you know, we had recruiting day, you know, where they come in, you had the

Chris Williams:

Navy, Army, Air Force, Marines, you know, they come, they come in, they sit down and they said, maybe, maybe you're not ready to go to college yet.

Chris Williams:

But we could get you ready, you know, and that's what happened to me.

Chris Williams:

I mean, I got my college degree in the military.

Chris Williams:

Not damn sure.

Chris Williams:

Wasn't ready to go to college when I joined the Navy, you know, and it was allowed it, it was actually encouraged, but now they can't do it.

Chris Williams:

So here's what I say, all that public money you're getting.

Chris Williams:

But it's over

Chris Williams:

with.

Chris Williams:

Yeah.

Chris Williams:

Right.

Chris Williams:

Yeah.

Chris Williams:

I agree.

Chris Williams:

Yeah.

Chris Williams:

You know, even when I was in the Navy, I mean, I, I came home a couple of times, called up my recruiter and he's like, Hey, I'm headed out to Utica high school.

Chris Williams:

You want to go with me?

Chris Williams:

Heck yeah.

Chris Williams:

Let's go.

Chris Williams:

Yeah.

Chris Williams:

And quite frankly, that was, it was enjoyment for me, but it's good to see a bunch of young people interested in what you got to offer, you know, and

Chris Williams:

granted, I mean, You know, whatever branch of service you went into, they had all different types of jobs you could do.

Chris Williams:

Like in the Navy, they say, you know, you don't want to pick a job, strike.

Chris Williams:

And you can pick a job when you get in there, you'll get put in a job, right?

Chris Williams:

But to not be able to tell these kids anything about what you could do for your country, that's purely asinine.

Chris Williams:

Yeah.

Chris Williams:

And if you remember the speech, the most famous of John Kennedy's speeches, his inaugural speech, in the end of it he said, That's not.

Chris Williams:

What your country can do for you while you lazy asses collect the money from the government, but ask what you can do for your country.

Chris Williams:

And right after that, he said, ask not what America can do for you, but what we can do together for all of humanity.

Chris Williams:

What are we doing for humanity?

Chris Williams:

Joe O'Neal: We don't want to do nothing for America.

Chris Williams:

You know, I did two years of recruiting duty in the Charleston, South Carolina area in 94, 95, 96.

Chris Williams:

Of course, everything was going on in Iraq and, you know, Afghanistan, but I was allowed.

Chris Williams:

To go to the school and stand up, you know, and they welcome me, but it's not like that now, you know, and it was no problem.

Chris Williams:

And you go in there and tell them, I didn't bullshit the kids.

Chris Williams:

I said, here's the good things about the Navy.

Chris Williams:

I said, let me tell you what the bad things are.

Chris Williams:

You're going to work like you never had to.

Chris Williams:

You know, you going to experience, but you'll, you'll learn how to work together as a team.

Chris Williams:

They build you up.

Chris Williams:

And I would, I, I didn't bullshit 'em, you know, I just tell 'em the straight facts and I never had no problem making my quota none.

Chris Williams:

Matter of fact, I went over, went over,

Chris Williams:

well, even back when Patrick and I, this, I mean, You know, I don't, I don't think Patrick ever had a recruiter just bullshit him about what he could do when he went in.

Chris Williams:

He already knew, but you know, like he said, he had a, he had a kid on the way, he was in college, he needed to find a new skillset, but but you know, he

Chris Williams:

went in, he went in the army against all odds, against all odds, he should have never been able to get in, but he was, he wanted to go and damn it.

Chris Williams:

He went.

Chris Williams:

And so nowadays, if you look at recruiting, just ain't there anymore, you know, when I found out he was going in, his odds were so against him, I told my dad, I said, if he gets in, let

Chris Williams:

me know when another one of those Navy recruiting cards come in, because by then I'd already told the same chief up at the federal building with my draft card shredded and on his desk.

Chris Williams:

Fuck you and the Navy.

Chris Williams:

Don't you ever call me again?

Chris Williams:

Well, when I found out he was going in and I told Dex, let me know when another one of those draft cars come in, I found out another draft car, I mean, another recruiting car came in.

Chris Williams:

I went back to my job now, mind you, we didn't have phones back then.

Chris Williams:

I was wearing a pager, but when my dad paged me, I'm thinking, Oh shit, something's wrong.

Chris Williams:

So drive five miles up the street to a pay phone.

Chris Williams:

What's up?

Chris Williams:

Well, you got another one of those recruiting cards.

Chris Williams:

What do you want me to do with it?

Chris Williams:

513.

Chris Williams:

I hung up on him, went back to the job, told the crew I'm taking off for the rest of the day.

Chris Williams:

Y'all know what to do.

Chris Williams:

I'll see you in the morning.

Chris Williams:

And I went straight to the recruiter's office.

Chris Williams:

I didn't have a problem with my recruiter either.

Chris Williams:

Cause I didn't meet him until I was already on the floor.

Chris Williams:

I was gone.

Chris Williams:

I mean, and the thing is.

Chris Williams:

You got two cases right here where you didn't need to tell me anything about what to do to get in.

Chris Williams:

You just need to do your job, get the paperwork filled out and send me down there.

Chris Williams:

And that was pretty much at work.

Chris Williams:

And even back then, I mean, when recruiters had a certain quota, they had to meet, there were people who wanted to go in the service for whatever reason.

Chris Williams:

And now.

Chris Williams:

It's like, I don't know if the people who want to go in now or just want to do it for the fascination of wearing a uniform or be able to, you know, be around fighter jets or whatever.

Chris Williams:

I don't know why they want to go in, but I do know recruiting is down because of what is happening to America right now.

Chris Williams:

And they're sick of it.

Chris Williams:

Even the young people sick of

Chris Williams:

Joe O'Neal: it.

Chris Williams:

I think they ought to reinstate the draft.

Chris Williams:

It ought to be mandatory.

Chris Williams:

And I, and I say this kind of hesitatingly two years.

Chris Williams:

'cause they going to teach you a skill set.

Chris Williams:

You gonna learn how to work together.

Chris Williams:

You gonna learn, you gonna learn things,

Chris Williams:

take care of each other.

Chris Williams:

You're gonna learn

Chris Williams:

Joe O'Neal: things that's going benefit you.

Chris Williams:

It don't matter if you get out those two years, what you learn in the military, no matter what branch of service it is, you're gonna learn how to be a man or a woman.

Chris Williams:

The women wanna be in by gotta put a man.

Patrick Williams:

I think it needs to be more than two.

Patrick Williams:

Yeah, yeah.

Patrick Williams:

Because like, well, it's not just that like me, you know, my two months of basic, then I turned around and went four and a half months to AIT and then I went another month to jump school.

Patrick Williams:

So technically I wasn't even in my dang unit for just over three years.

Patrick Williams:

You know, if you go in for two years, then you really only going to have one year.

Patrick Williams:

Of possible actual at your duty station, and you'll be less likely to be called up to go overseas.

Patrick Williams:

Now I know in the Marines, you'll be more likely to go somewhere.

Patrick Williams:

And I think the experience in the military, mind you, this is just my opinion, but I think that.

Patrick Williams:

An experience in the military is one thing, but if you get to put your feet on foreign soil, you're going to respect your country more.

Patrick Williams:

Like you were saying a while ago, Joe.

Patrick Williams:

And I think two years would be cool, but I just pending on the job that somebody takes, like.

Patrick Williams:

Our communications repair guys, man, they spent like, I think it was like eight months in aIT.

Chris Williams:

Ours was nine.

Chris Williams:

Joe O'Neal: Yeah, you know, I mean.

Patrick Williams:

So they'd only have one year in active service and that would be kind of like.

Patrick Williams:

Joe O'Neal: Yeah, you're just starting, you're just starting to learn your skill set, you know.

Patrick Williams:

Yeah.

Patrick Williams:

Joe O'Neal: Oh, you know.

Chris Williams:

Well, not just your skill set.

Chris Williams:

I know, I mean, when I was in, you know, just from boot camp to the end of A school, I mean, there were guys that were boot camp with me, obviously, and in A school.

Chris Williams:

You started building relationships with these guys, but Is when you get to your duty station, you're actually doing the work now.

Chris Williams:

I mean, you're not just learning when you get to your duty station.

Chris Williams:

Now it's more than just making friendships.

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You realize the importance of everything you've learned up to this point, how really critical it is to do the basic stuff that you were taught up to that.

Chris Williams:

And, you know, and for example, when, when I was in New Orleans, I work under AIMD, as it turns out, I was actually under two different commands, the squadron

Chris Williams:

and AIMD, I worked in a, what they call MMF mobile maintenance facility, and all that is, you got a bunch of train boxes that are put together and make one.

Chris Williams:

Yeah, one building with a hallway.

Chris Williams:

Right.

Chris Williams:

And the deal with mmf was anytime we had to go to war, especially with us.

Chris Williams:

I mean, we were Atlantic and Westpac.

Chris Williams:

So, you know, we could go either direction.

Chris Williams:

But if we had to go, there will be that announcement lockdown your shop.

Chris Williams:

Everything has to be Secured, nothing moving around, everything has to be in order, and before you get there, you know, there's going to be a guy

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over there with a big ass forklift ready to pick your section up to put it on the back of an airplane.

Chris Williams:

Now you got 30 minutes to get set up.

Chris Williams:

Now, there were different shops, you had your IRDS shop, radar shop, your communication shop, and then of course your two admin shops, and then your solder and microsolder shop were together.

Chris Williams:

All that's got to go.

Chris Williams:

And we all work for different shops, but if one of us didn't get our job done, it was going to hinder them.

Chris Williams:

You got to go, got to go, you know, you got no time to play around and go smoke, cigarette, go change into your sweats or not, and you got to get the job done.

Chris Williams:

And you better be ready to be on that bird ready to go.

Chris Williams:

And they didn't teach us that in high school.

Chris Williams:

You know what I mean?

Chris Williams:

Joe O'Neal: Well, you know, you could, you could do it, you know, for a, you know, a six year commitment, you know, four years active duty, two

Chris Williams:

years, maybe a year active reserve, and then one year inactive reserve, you know, and because I've looked at the numbers and reserves and stuff.

Chris Williams:

There, there hardly is none.

Chris Williams:

You know, the people's not there.

Chris Williams:

They're not recruiting.

Chris Williams:

And you know, I know a bunch of people say, oh, they're just going to get, you know, the people that's poor.

Chris Williams:

No, you know, let everybody come in.

Chris Williams:

Yeah.

Chris Williams:

Let them come in.

Chris Williams:

Cause like you said, Patrick, when you step on that foreign soil and realize.

Chris Williams:

Yeah, what the hell you're doing there and you see what's going on, it's going to change your whole mindset forever, you know, you know, yeah,

Chris Williams:

well,

Patrick Williams:

and even if it's not a combat zone, if you get stationed somewhere else, yeah, you're going to see a totally different because when in

Patrick Williams:

Rome, you live by the Romans, you know, you do as Romans do, you go over there and you see what is and isn't permitted.

Patrick Williams:

And it's a culture shock.

Patrick Williams:

People are like, Oh, I can do this at home.

Patrick Williams:

You can't do it here.

Patrick Williams:

Yeah.

Chris Williams:

Well, that concludes our show for today, and we thank you for being here with us.

Chris Williams:

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