In this episode of Educate & Rejuvenate: The Podcast, Kelsey along with fellow life coach and homeschool mom, Katie Hedrick host of the Joy At Home podcast delve into the misconceptions and self-deceptions that homeschool moms often face. Their conversation provides support and empowerment to homeschooling moms, acknowledging their fears and doubts while uncovering the truth behind the lies they tell themselves.
Welcome to episode 133 of educate and rejuvenate
Speaker:the podcast, lies we tell ourselves as homeschool moms with Katie
Speaker:Hedrick from Joy at Home. If you're a homeschool mom, we
Speaker:recorded this co hosted episode just for you, and
Speaker:you do not want to miss it.
Speaker:Welcome to educate and rejuvenate, the podcast to help you
Speaker:revitalize your teaching, renew your spirit, and reignite your
Speaker:passion for life. I'm your host, Kelsey Sorensen, a former
Speaker:teacher, current homeschool mom, published author, and certified life
Speaker:coach. Whether you are a teacher in a traditional classroom, homeschool
Speaker:from your kitchen table, or anywhere in between, I am on a mission to help
Speaker:you not only survive as an educator, but thrive. Get
Speaker:ready to up level your skills with incredible insights from guest experts
Speaker:and discover the missing piece, rejuvenating yourself. Are
Speaker:you ready to both educate and rejuvenate? Let's
Speaker:go.
Speaker:Hello again, my friends. I'm so, so excited for
Speaker:today's interview with Katie from the joy at home
Speaker:podcast. She is a certified life coach turned homeschool
Speaker:mom, and she is presenting at educate and rejuvenate this year on our
Speaker:homeschool track. And she's gonna tell you more about her session and
Speaker:more about herself in this interview. And what we did today
Speaker:is we really just picked different lies that we tell ourselves as homeschool moms.
Speaker:We had, like, a list of ones that we brainstormed together before we came together
Speaker:for this episode, and it was Katie's idea. She reached out. She was like, I
Speaker:had this idea. What if we record an episode? It may air on your podcast
Speaker:and on my podcast. And I was like, yeah. Let's do it. So
Speaker:super excited to be sharing this with you today. This co
Speaker:hosted episode, it will have aired on joy at home just shortly before it
Speaker:airs here on educate and rejuvenate the podcast. Now if you love what you
Speaker:hear today, make sure that you also join us at educate and rejuvenate so you
Speaker:can hear Katie's session where she's sharing all about for
Speaker:anybody who's wanting to transition from public school to homeschool. And
Speaker:again, that is not going to be everybody here. I know a lot of you
Speaker:are teachers. You're probably like, this may not be for me. And you could probably
Speaker:still glean some things from it. We talk about the lies we tell ourselves and
Speaker:how we need to rewire those, and you can probably still apply some of it
Speaker:to yourself. Or if you're just interested in hearing a little bit more about my
Speaker:homeschool journey and about Katie and what she does, you can
Speaker:definitely check out today. But I do love that we have a special episode
Speaker:today specifically for our homeschool moms because I feel like we don't have as many
Speaker:of those. And we do have quite a few where it's about classroom management or
Speaker:about, for example, last time creating boundaries where it was very teacher geared
Speaker:towards admin since that's Barb's experience from last week's episode. So I
Speaker:do love that we get to have a special episode today for the homeschool moms
Speaker:who listen. I am here for you too. I love you. I see you. I
Speaker:love helping educators of all kinds, whether you're teaching a traditional classroom,
Speaker:at your kitchen table, online. We and we talk about it in this episode today.
Speaker:We're all more alike than we think. We all have the same goal
Speaker:to help kids grow and learn and
Speaker:thrive. And that is what we love to do as educators. So, without
Speaker:further ado, I'm really excited to get to today's episode for you, the
Speaker:homeschool mom is here, the lies we tell ourselves. So let's get
Speaker:to it.
Speaker:Hey there, friend. Katie here. I am the host of the Joy at
Speaker:Home podcast. I am also a homeschool mom to 3
Speaker:awesome kids. I have a daughter, age 16, and then 2
Speaker:sons, age 13 and 10. So as you can imagine, we're
Speaker:always on the go, go, go over here. Life is really full, but it
Speaker:is really, really good. Just a quick little backstory about me
Speaker:and my kids. Our family was one of those families that was thrown
Speaker:into homeschooling during that crazy season of
Speaker:COVID in the year 2020. And so
Speaker:2020 found us homeschooling by circumstance,
Speaker:whereas 2022 really found us homeschooling
Speaker:by choice. After that crazy COVID season, I did send my kids back
Speaker:into the public school system for a couple years, and all the while, I just
Speaker:kept feeling this tug in my heart to step into
Speaker:homeschool. And so we finally did that in the fall
Speaker:of 2022, and we have not looked back, and
Speaker:it's been so, so good. We've had a lot of ups and downs, a lot
Speaker:of learning and growing experiences, but today, we're in a really good
Speaker:place, and we are so excited about the future. My kids and I believe
Speaker:that the best is always yet to come. And so, on the
Speaker:side, when I'm not homeschooling my kids, I absolutely love helping
Speaker:other moms step into homeschool. I offer a bunch of
Speaker:free resources over at teach me to homeschool.com,
Speaker:so you can definitely head over there and see what is available for
Speaker:you. All that being said, we are so thrilled to
Speaker:dive into today's episode. My sweet friend and I are gonna
Speaker:be talking all about the lies that homeschool moms believe.
Speaker:But before we jump in, I'm gonna send it over to Kelsey and let her
Speaker:introduce herself to you. Alright. I'm Kelsey Sorensen,
Speaker:and I'm so excited to be here today and happy that Katie invited
Speaker:me to to do this episode together, and we're kind of co hosting it. We're
Speaker:going to be conversational. It's going to be a lot of fun. We
Speaker:connected because Katie will be presenting at my upcoming educate and
Speaker:rejuvenate event, and it's so fun. And we just get to hang out and chat
Speaker:altogether. So so fun. I am the host of the
Speaker:educate and rejuvenate events, like I just mentioned, and the educate and rejuvenate
Speaker:podcast, and the upcoming book titled, you could probably guess it,
Speaker:educate and rejuvenate. We are in the process of rebranding
Speaker:my company that I started 10 years ago. It was called wife teacher
Speaker:mommy, and that name is still near and dear to my heart. I named it
Speaker:that because when I started my company, I had just had my oldest child,
Speaker:and he's 10 now because that was 10 years ago. But I was so excited.
Speaker:I'm like, I'm a wife, and then it was a teacher because I was a
Speaker:school teacher before I was a homeschool mom. Actually, well, before I was a homeschool
Speaker:mom. So at that time, I had just, decided to stay home and substitute
Speaker:teach. So I did that after teaching 3rd grade for 1 year.
Speaker:I substitute taught for 4 years with well, I had my first child, and then
Speaker:2 years later, I had my second child. Called it wife teacher mommy because that
Speaker:described me, and we were helping teachers with their sub plans
Speaker:and everything. But then in 2019, we decided
Speaker:to homeschool, and it was actually a really hard decision for me. For my
Speaker:husband, it was not he was like, oh, I wanna homeschool. We should homeschool. But,
Speaker:of course, it was like I was gonna be doing more of it at that
Speaker:time, which has now changed. We've actually we do it together now. It's I could
Speaker:do, like, a whole episode on that and how that's changed over the years
Speaker:too. But with that, we decided to homeschool, and then I was really
Speaker:glad when COVID hit because our routine didn't get thrown off. We were, like, we
Speaker:were already homeschooling, so we just got to keep doing what we were doing.
Speaker:So after that, I was like, okay. That was a blessing. Like, I'm glad we,
Speaker:like, did that. So we were able to just keep things consistent
Speaker:for our kids, so that was good. I'm a homeschool mom. I love
Speaker:supporting both educator like, all types of educators. I like to say whether you're
Speaker:in the classroom or homeschooling your your kitchen table or teaching
Speaker:online, that's really who I serve with my company. It's really,
Speaker:like, just basically anyone who teaches anyone anything, I would call
Speaker:a teacher. So that's who I love to serve over at Educate
Speaker:and Rejuvenate, the podcast, and what I do. I'm a certified life
Speaker:coach like you are, and just love supporting those who
Speaker:teach it to find themselves outside of that role as
Speaker:well. So you can make sure that you take care of yourself and take care
Speaker:of the kids that you teach. That is so fun, and the work that you
Speaker:do, Kelsey, is so important. And I also just have to say, homeschool mom to
Speaker:homeschool mom, it is so fun and refreshing to connect with
Speaker:other moms who are in the same season that we are in, and it is
Speaker:such a thrill to co host this podcast episode with you. It's so much fun.
Speaker:So we're gonna dig into the lies that homeschool moms are
Speaker:telling themselves and believing, and I just wanna kind of preface this
Speaker:conversation by saying that brain science says
Speaker:that the brain will believe what you tell it to
Speaker:be true, and the brain will actually look for ways to back up the
Speaker:things that you are telling it. And so all these things that
Speaker:we're saying and thinking and believing are really affecting our life
Speaker:more than we probably know. So it's important to
Speaker:grab a hold of these lies and pull them out at the root before they
Speaker:grow into these nasty weeds in our life. So I just wanted
Speaker:to start the conversation by saying that that that this is a really
Speaker:important conversation, that we need to expose the truth about
Speaker:the lies that homeschool moms are believing. And I think
Speaker:Kelsey would agree with me that this is something that we struggle with too. We're
Speaker:both certified life coaches. Right? For sure. Like, we still have a human
Speaker:brain. Yeah. Exactly. We know this stuff. We know better,
Speaker:but it's something that we still wrestle with too. And so the very first
Speaker:one that I wanna jump in with, I think it is it's such a big
Speaker:one, and it's probably the number one thing that's even out
Speaker:there. And that is the lie that says, I am not
Speaker:qualified to teach my child. What are your thoughts on that, Kelsey?
Speaker:Okay. So I definitely have thoughts on this because, as I mentioned, I was a
Speaker:teacher before I was a homeschool mom. Right? And yet I still
Speaker:felt like, oh, can I homeschool my child? And I had all the qualifications
Speaker:to do so. So So it shows that no matter what, it's not the circumstance
Speaker:of whether we have a piece of paper that says we can teach our child
Speaker:or not because I have that. And yet I still felt like, oh, well,
Speaker:can I do this? Because there were all these other things too. Like, are they
Speaker:actually gonna get everything they need? All the the rumor of they're not gonna get
Speaker:the socialization or all those things. And,
Speaker:also, am I good enough to teach all the subjects all the way through high
Speaker:school? I was starting to think big picture. Am I qualified to do all of
Speaker:this instead of just, like, can I teach my son kindergarten? Which is what I'm
Speaker:here to focus on right then. I feel like sometimes we really think we need
Speaker:to know everything when really it could be something we learn along with
Speaker:our child. And you also have to remember, I can share from the background
Speaker:of a teacher as well. Yes. There are a lot of things we learn in
Speaker:teacher school that help us to educate in a classroom setting where you have, like,
Speaker:30 students, and a lot of that is classroom management and classroom
Speaker:organization and things that when you're homeschooling, it just looks a lot
Speaker:different. And you don't need to have that same background
Speaker:in having a teaching degree or whatever to homeschool your kids because you
Speaker:actually know your child better than that teacher does, and they are trying to differentiate
Speaker:to me 30 plus kids in a classroom, which I can tell you
Speaker:is a challenge. It's its own challenge that they're focused on, and you are
Speaker:really yes. Well, you may not have the same teaching degree or whatever, you get
Speaker:to spend that time 1 on 1 with your child or with your depending on
Speaker:how many kids you have. But, again, you probably still get 1 on 1 with
Speaker:each child, right, which is so much more. Like, for my daughter, I now know.
Speaker:I was worried about it, but I now know she's thriving so much more that
Speaker:she's getting that 1 on 1 attention than she would if she only had that
Speaker:classroom experience. So I don't know. That's my initial just
Speaker:thoughts on that. Yeah. I love the perspective that you bring to the table on
Speaker:that. And I have have heard that some people coming from the teaching world and
Speaker:then stepping into homeschooling that actually that it can make it a little bit harder
Speaker:because you kinda have to unlearn Yes. All these things that you
Speaker:have learned and the whole just being qualified to teach in the classroom and
Speaker:the good, bad, and the differences between that and then, you know, teaching at home.
Speaker:I think you make such a good point too, Kelsey, and I just I wanna
Speaker:bring that back up. You don't have to have it all figured out. You know?
Speaker:When you're just getting started and you're homeschooling a kindergartner
Speaker:or a preschooler, you don't have to know how to create a high
Speaker:school transcript yet. And I think that we get so hung up on that and
Speaker:that we feel even more unqualified about what we do not know, and
Speaker:we're putting all these additional stressors on ourselves, and it doesn't have to be that
Speaker:way. Yeah. This is one that I really wrestled with because my kids
Speaker:feeling not qualified to teach my children because my kids had been in the public
Speaker:school system for 8 years. So my daughter was in 7th
Speaker:grade, finished 7th grade when we pulled them out to start homeschooling, and I was
Speaker:public schooled. And so I really, really wrestled with, man, I
Speaker:am not I am not gonna be qualified. And, in fact, that's what held me
Speaker:back. Between 2020 and 2022, that is honestly
Speaker:the one thing that held me back, was I just kept saying, like, I can't.
Speaker:Like, I I don't know how. I'm not qualified. And people began
Speaker:speaking truth into my life that people have been home educating their children
Speaker:for 100 and 100 of years. Mhmm. If you are an
Speaker:honorable, productive adult who knows how to read and
Speaker:write, you are capable of educating your children.
Speaker:If you know how to do basic life skills, because, honestly, that's what really matters.
Speaker:Like, your kids need to know how to manage money, how to cook, how to
Speaker:do laundry. Yes. They need to know the basics of, you know, reading, writing, and
Speaker:math, but there are things that are far more important than
Speaker:the little minuscule thing that I I think sometimes that we focus on.
Speaker:One tangible thing that you can do to to smash
Speaker:this lie or this belief that you're not qualified is you can plug
Speaker:into some great resources, like Kelsey's educate and rejuvenate
Speaker:conference that's coming up is a great resource. Hslda.com
Speaker:is a great resource. There are podcasts out there. Right? You can go to my
Speaker:website, teach me to homeschool.com. And it might that domain, by the
Speaker:way. Like, how perfect is that? Like, teach me to homeschool. There you go.
Speaker:Right. Like, it's, like, a great starting point. I was thinking when I grabbed that
Speaker:domain, I was thinking back, like, what would I be wanting to type in
Speaker:that would make me feel like a googled, like, please help me. I don't know
Speaker:how to homeschool. We're always googling, yeah, how to
Speaker:homeschool. So you can go check out that website. It might take just a little
Speaker:bit of reaching out for support, but I promise you that there are
Speaker:some great resources out there. If you will just go to some of those basic
Speaker:ones that I mentioned, those are great starting points. And
Speaker:someone else told me at the beginning of our homeschool journey that the truth is
Speaker:there are people out there less smart, less capable, and less
Speaker:qualified than you are who are successfully homeschooling their kids.
Speaker:Like, they're figuring it out. And I'm like, if they're figuring it out, I
Speaker:can figure this thing out. And I also wanna say that,
Speaker:most likely, you're doing a much better job than you're giving yourself credit for. And
Speaker:the fact that you're even concerned about being qualified to
Speaker:educate your children, it shows that you're a great mom. And you just have to
Speaker:know going in that you're gonna make mistakes, and it and you're still a great
Speaker:mom, even when you're making those mistakes. You live and learn
Speaker:and grow as you go. I remember our first day of homeschool. I
Speaker:made a rookie mistake of not even cracking open our curriculum
Speaker:for our language arts. And the one that we had chosen, it started out it's
Speaker:like, okay. Circle all the prepositions. And I was like, what the heck is
Speaker:a preposition? Right? So I made some
Speaker:rookie mistakes along the way, and we look back at it now and we just
Speaker:laugh. I mean, you're gonna make mistakes, and it's gonna be okay. You just you
Speaker:go and you grow as you go. And you learn together. You can always wake,
Speaker:oh, when they ask a question. And this happens whether or not you homeschool. Your
Speaker:kids will ask questions you don't know the answers to. You've been doing this all
Speaker:along. Right? When your kids are 3 and 4, they're like, why this? Why that?
Speaker:And you're like, oh, I don't know. Maybe we should go to Google and look
Speaker:that up. You know? And that's what you can do when you're homeschooling as well.
Speaker:For sure. It's it's such a redemption of your own education as the
Speaker:mom. I mean, the things I have learned, it's been really enjoyable, honestly,
Speaker:learning right alongside my kids. Yeah. And I will say there were even times in
Speaker:the classroom where students would ask a question and be like, I don't know. And
Speaker:have you been talk to other teacher friends, like, students will ask something. You're like,
Speaker:let's look that up together and learn together. So, I mean, that's part of it,
Speaker:is learning with them. As a teacher, whether you're homeschooling or in a
Speaker:classroom, you don't all of a sudden know everything. Right?
Speaker:That's that's so good. And I'm glad you bring up that point because I think,
Speaker:as a homeschooling mom, I think that we think that public school
Speaker:teachers know it all, that they honestly, legitimately know it all, and then we're
Speaker:like, well, I don't know it all, so I can't homeschool. And that I mean,
Speaker:that's not true. You just shattered that right there. Nobody knows it all. We're all
Speaker:Right. Learning and growing. Yes. We're all learning and growing. And and
Speaker:the other thing I love too is they think, like, people and this isn't even
Speaker:on our list, but, like, some homeschoolers will be like, how do you work with
Speaker:both homeschoolers and teachers? Aren't those, like, opposing each other? But
Speaker:I actually don't think so because, one, you talk to any teacher,
Speaker:and there are things they hate about the public school system, like,
Speaker:100%. I feel like we're a lot on the same page. We our goal is
Speaker:whether we want kids, like, and for when we're homeschooling us our own kids to
Speaker:have the best education they can. And so I
Speaker:think it's not like you're saying, oh, I don't support my friends. I thought people
Speaker:would think I was judging them when I was homeschooling. Especially, I'm
Speaker:like, oh, well, I help teachers. What are they gonna think when I homeschool? But
Speaker:it hasn't been a problem at all. So I think we can really
Speaker:just learn from each other too. Such a good point. Yeah. I think we all
Speaker:have way more in common than we realize. What's what lie do you wanna jump
Speaker:into next, Kelsey? Let's jump into another lie. The one that I feel like comes
Speaker:up a lot and came up for me at the beginning of my homeschool journey
Speaker:too is my kids are behind or I'm failing my
Speaker:kids. Oh, that's a good one. That's a good one. Okay.
Speaker:So I think on this one, I think the comparison
Speaker:game is something to really watch out for on
Speaker:this one. Again, I think that we have to take into consideration
Speaker:what really, really matters. Whose standards are we
Speaker:holding our kids to? Who are we comparing them to to say that
Speaker:they're they're falling behind here or there? And perhaps they
Speaker:have giftings and talents in this area, and maybe
Speaker:this other area just simply isn't their strong point. One thing I love about homeschooling
Speaker:is that we have the freedom to investigate those things that they're interested in and
Speaker:passionate about and really help develop those skills. And what is that gonna do for
Speaker:their future? If that's something that they're passionate about, it might be a good
Speaker:idea to sort of pursue that path. Cover the basics,
Speaker:but let them pursue the things that light them up. I think sometimes
Speaker:we want to check all the boxes and make sure we get through all
Speaker:the, you know, standard subjects in our homeschool day, and
Speaker:then that's part of what causes us to feel like they're falling behind
Speaker:or or or failing or, like, why don't they like this or that subject?
Speaker:Do what you have to do to meet your state's requirements, but Mhmm. Give your
Speaker:kids the freedom and allow yourself the freedom and the grace to kind
Speaker:of follow what they're interested in. Core core subjects are
Speaker:important. Yes. But I feel like there's so much more to it, and so this
Speaker:comparison standard and them falling behind, I definitely
Speaker:feel like is a lie. I agree. And I love what you mentioned about
Speaker:how we are able to help them develop what really lights them up. I do
Speaker:feel like that's one of the huge benefits of homeschooling is we can, yes, cover
Speaker:all those core subjects, but then you have more time in the day to explore.
Speaker:Let's say they're really into singing or acting. I mean, that comes up because that
Speaker:is my daughter. And we have time for her to really explore more of that
Speaker:too because she's not in school for as long every day. I
Speaker:do love that about homeschooling. And so you can look at, like, what are the
Speaker:benefits of that they've been homeschooled. My answer to that question too
Speaker:would be that, again, who says what behind means? If we were gonna
Speaker:if I were coaching someone on it and they're like, oh, my kids are behind
Speaker:a big, well, what does that mean? What does it mean to be behind? And
Speaker:believe me, I know. I know because I've been a teacher that, yes, there are
Speaker:these standards that exist. Oh, well, in 3rd grade, they're supposed to be able to
Speaker:do all these multiplication tables and different things like that. Right?
Speaker:But, again, that's just a guideline
Speaker:more so than every kid needs to do that because even if they were in
Speaker:a public school, how many kids are not quite hitting that
Speaker:standard? So many. And more than ever right now because of COVID.
Speaker:So it's prevalent no matter whether they're homeschooled or they're in a traditional
Speaker:school. But, really, it's like, yeah. That's what the standards are. It would
Speaker:be great if they did that. But, also, are they going to survive?
Speaker:Are they gonna have a calculator in their pocket unlike my math teacher told me
Speaker:all growing up? Yes. They are. Right? They're gonna have their phone on them if
Speaker:they need to do that multiplication table. It's not the end of the world. But
Speaker:every kid is moving at their own timeline, and even Christina Kuzmic in
Speaker:her podcast interview I did with her, she's our one of our keynotes at educate
Speaker:and rejuvenate. She told this story about how her
Speaker:son, he was focused on his mental health. Right? He was going to I don't
Speaker:know if rehab is the word, but where he was, like, getting help and everything,
Speaker:and he wasn't graduating, quote, on time. Right? And so
Speaker:she sees another mom, and that other mom is like, oh, what are you doing
Speaker:for graduation and talking about it and everything. And she's like, oh, he Luca
Speaker:isn't graduating right now. And then that other mom is, oh, like, so embarrassed and
Speaker:everything. But it's like, who said that he was graduating late? He
Speaker:graduated 5 months later, and it was right on time for when he was
Speaker:supposed to graduate. And that was his journey, so we can't expect that
Speaker:every child's journey is going to look exactly the same. It might
Speaker:not look like the standards in school. And guess what? If they're being
Speaker:homeschooled, even better because they're not going to have that pressure, and they can really
Speaker:just blossom on their own timeline. So I I have been
Speaker:I feel, like, really successfully been busting that myth for myself right now
Speaker:because I've had that one that I carried for the first probably 3 years
Speaker:of homeschooling. So, again, don't feel like that overnight you're gonna and,
Speaker:again, that's having gone through life coach school and everything. But
Speaker:I feel like I've been able to bust that and be like, no. I'm not
Speaker:feeling my kids. They're not behind. They're right where they need to be. That is
Speaker:such a good motto. That's just a good life motto to adopt as a
Speaker:homeschool mom. And it is such a beautiful thing that we could do this
Speaker:individualized customized learning for our kids. I mean, honestly, they're
Speaker:they're not getting that in the public school setting because there are it's like 1
Speaker:teacher to 30 kids, and and that teacher only has so much
Speaker:bandwidth. So, again, I just come back to who's who are
Speaker:you comparing them to? What are the standards you're comparing them against? And just what
Speaker:a blessing it is to be able to teach them 1 on 1 and to
Speaker:be able to help them pursue the things that that they're interested in. And you
Speaker:made such a good point, just allowing them the space to finish on their own
Speaker:time. We're all unique individuals. It's like kids develop
Speaker:differently from from the get go. They walk at different times. They crawl at different
Speaker:times. All these things. And then I don't know why they get to be a
Speaker:certain age, and it's like, okay. Times table's in 3rd grade.
Speaker:Cursive, 4th grade, whatever it is. Let's let's develop them
Speaker:how they're meant to be developed and just figure out how we can best
Speaker:support them and meet them where they are. I love that. That's so
Speaker:good. Yeah. And it's been, like, one, I think the reason it was so hard
Speaker:to bust for me is actually because I'd been in that traditional classroom
Speaker:and after that, writing curriculum based on the standards. So I
Speaker:knew them probably for all the grade levels more than even just your average teacher.
Speaker:I knew them intimately. Still still do. But I feel
Speaker:like so trying to unweave that, it goes back to what we were talking about
Speaker:at first. It might be better if I didn't have all that background information. I
Speaker:could just teach my child where they're at. So those of you who are like,
Speaker:I don't have that background. Trust me. There are benefits to not having that too
Speaker:if you're going to be homeschooling. I can totally see that. The
Speaker:state that you're in, Kelsey, is is standardized testing required for homeschoolers
Speaker:in your state? I don't believe so. My my kids kids are technically in a
Speaker:homeschool charter. They do administer the test, but you can
Speaker:opt out or do whatever just like you would in public school. So we haven't
Speaker:done the affidavit and everything that most homeschoolers do, but
Speaker:I don't believe it is required here in Utah. Yeah. I know every state and
Speaker:every which way you homeschool has their like, their different requirements. Even here in
Speaker:Iowa, there are 5 different options for homeschooling, and some do require testing
Speaker:and some don't. The way that we homeschool, we actually utilize the
Speaker:local homeschool assistance program. So we're actually dual enrolled through the public school
Speaker:even though we do all their educating here at home. They just, like, they participate
Speaker:in sports and the homeschool group there. And so the way that we
Speaker:homeschool, standardized testing is not required. I do have them do an
Speaker:end of the year assessment, but it's not to compare them or to hold them
Speaker:to some certain standard. It really is just to show me
Speaker:as the homeschooling mom, individually for my kids, okay, what what do we
Speaker:need to work on a little bit more next year? Yeah. So that's how I
Speaker:that's how I view that. Yeah. And I actually I let I don't opt my
Speaker:kids out. I have them do it, but I just know it's one data point.
Speaker:It is not the data point. And any good teacher will tell you the same
Speaker:thing. Yes. Yeah. There are so many factors to being a
Speaker:a well rounded individual. It goes so much deeper than beyond the
Speaker:standardized testing, for sure. Let's jump over
Speaker:to the lies that we tell ourselves about time and
Speaker:how much time we don't have and how we're always so Oh, yeah. Crazy
Speaker:busy. There's not enough hours in the day. It felt like there was 27
Speaker:more hours in the day. We don't have enough. I don't have enough time
Speaker:for this or that. I don't have enough time for myself. I don't have enough
Speaker:time to get the homeschooling done. I don't have enough time to run a business
Speaker:and homeschool too. What are your thoughts on that, Kelsey? Oh, I
Speaker:mean, for one, I could just say, I think we can all relate to all
Speaker:of those thoughts because I think we all have them time and time again, and
Speaker:they even pop up again for me even today because I'm recording podcasts
Speaker:before. I'm like, oh, I'm not gonna be in the office for 2 weeks because
Speaker:I'm gonna be doing a vendor booth and then going on a trip. But then
Speaker:I notice it. Right? And I redirect because I've learned how important it is
Speaker:to not be so in the I am busy. I'm so overwhelmed
Speaker:all the time. Because what I found is a lot of times when we're thinking
Speaker:I am busy, we're just perpetuating that. That thought is optional. We don't
Speaker:have to keep repeating I am busy because then how does that make us feel?
Speaker:It makes us feel overwhelmed, and then it makes us, what, more effective at
Speaker:doing the things? Probably not. Right? It makes us maybe put
Speaker:it off, maybe do it, like, all frazzled, and then realize, like, oh, I did
Speaker:it this way, and I should've done it this way or whatever. I think really
Speaker:what it takes is just telling ourselves, like, okay. Like, may for 1, I
Speaker:like to say when I talk about time management is neutralizing it a little bit.
Speaker:Like, okay. I have so much to do. Let's actually write the things down.
Speaker:Write all the things your brain is telling you you need to do, and one
Speaker:that need to do is a thought. Right? Because a lot of the things that
Speaker:we tell ourselves we need to do, it's like, well, do I actually have to
Speaker:do that? And then realizing whatever it is you're, like, doing is because you're
Speaker:choosing to do it. It's so much more empowering that way. But
Speaker:then also realizing what are you telling yourself you need to do that maybe you
Speaker:don't, or maybe it's like, okay. Yeah. But I don't need to do it right
Speaker:now. Or, oh, where could I delegate this? Maybe, oh, I could
Speaker:just have Walmart plus bring my groceries instead of dragging all my kids to the
Speaker:store, which takes way longer. Right? So I feel like it's
Speaker:just actually taking some time to look at that list because, honestly, usually,
Speaker:it's less overwhelming than we're making it out to be in our brains. We're like,
Speaker:oh, there's so much. There's so much. I can't do it all. But when we
Speaker:really analyze it, it's really not as bad as we
Speaker:are making it out to be. When we add the drama on top, it makes
Speaker:it worse. And I'm not saying that you don't have a lot to do because
Speaker:chances are, like, if you have kids and you're homeschooling and you're running a business,
Speaker:you probably have quantifiably some things on your list. Right?
Speaker:But it's just our perspective behind it, our prioritization.
Speaker:I've talked all day about time management. So I'm trying to figure out, like, what
Speaker:exactly we wanna hit on this lie exactly. But
Speaker:I think when we just say, I don't have time and that's why I can't
Speaker:homeschool, homeschool doesn't have to be 8 hours a day, like, at
Speaker:all. It probably shouldn't be. Ours is, like, you know,
Speaker:the actual school part is 2 hours. That's it. And
Speaker:then they have that additional time to explore and everything. And for
Speaker:me, it's a little bit different because my husband helps as well. We trade off
Speaker:with the homeschooling. We have, like, our days and our subjects that we do, but
Speaker:it hasn't always looked that way. At the beginning, it was all me. Then for
Speaker:a while, I was like, I need you to do it for a bit while
Speaker:we were doing our 1st year of educate and rejuvenate. I was like, I can't
Speaker:right now. So he did it for a bit, and then now we're
Speaker:to this, like, balance where we're spreading it out. I think it's really just figuring
Speaker:out what works in each different season for you as well. And I know
Speaker:other people, they're like, oh, well, my husband couldn't help, but I have a friend
Speaker:who she actually has a tutor who comes and helps. She homeschools her 10
Speaker:kids, and she has somebody who comes and helps, and that's also an
Speaker:option. So, yeah, just thinking outside the box too. I think you
Speaker:hit on so much gold there, and so much of that resonates with me. And
Speaker:this is the one that I have wrestled with, honestly, just admitting,
Speaker:just like you. I have to catch myself when I'm saying this to myself
Speaker:and somewhat break up with it and stop identifying with it
Speaker:because, again, when we're telling ourselves that we're crazy busy, things are
Speaker:popping up that are making us crazy busy. And you hit on so many great
Speaker:things there, Kelsey. Delegation, I love that one. I love that you and your husband
Speaker:kind of work it as a team. We had chatted before we hit record. My
Speaker:husband is super supportive of homeschooling, but it's just it's definitely not his
Speaker:strength. So we both are working in our strengths at work from home, and
Speaker:he's he's doing that. He's supporting us, and then I'm working in my
Speaker:strength. But like you said, the the groceries, the if you need to delegate getting
Speaker:your house cleaned, so be it. I think delegation is key. I
Speaker:think also that the truth is that we waste a lot of time.
Speaker:Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. A lot of times with my life coaching clients,
Speaker:I will have them for 48 hours track their time every
Speaker:hour. At the end of every hour, they're writing down exactly what they spent that
Speaker:hour doing. And sometimes they're shocked to see how many hours in the
Speaker:day that they're wasting it. So I think track your time to gain some
Speaker:awareness around how you're actually spending your time. And
Speaker:then Kelsey sort of hit on what I call urgent versus important.
Speaker:Yes. You you have this to do with all things that
Speaker:you want to do. The urgency matrix. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And
Speaker:and so many times, it's like instead of tackling the important thing that would actually
Speaker:help us move forward in whatever area of our life, we just
Speaker:keep racking up these little things on top. You know, call the dentist, run a
Speaker:load of laundry, blah blah blah blah blah. Urgent. I have to get it done
Speaker:right now, but it's not actually moving you forward. Yeah. Yeah. And then at the
Speaker:end of the day, we've done, like, 27 urgent things, but but nothing that
Speaker:was actually important. Right? And so all the important stuff is still left. So
Speaker:I think gaining awareness around that. I mean, I feel like there is such a
Speaker:handful of things that we can do as moms to set ourself up for
Speaker:success from the time tracking to the realizing what actually is important, what
Speaker:actually matters Mhmm. What actually needs to get done to help us and our kids
Speaker:move forward towards our goals, you know, planning ahead. Little things
Speaker:like lesson planning for the next week instead of starting the homeschool day
Speaker:totally frazzled. I think there are so many just simple
Speaker:things like that that we can do where we can really help ourself
Speaker:debunk this live and we don't have enough hours in the day.
Speaker:Yeah. For sure. And I love the urgency matrix that you mentioned too. It
Speaker:was one thing that I was like, oh, I don't know how much time do
Speaker:I have to talk because then I could just talk forever. But I do find
Speaker:that it's so helpful to just see what is the urgent and important. We
Speaker:wanna make sure we're getting those done. Right? I have it in my book. So
Speaker:if anybody wants to see more about it that's coming out, you probably have something
Speaker:on it too. And then, of course, Stephen Covey, who had that in his book
Speaker:too. So it's very helpful. For sure. I Kelsey, I think we have time
Speaker:for one more lie. Which one do you wanna dive into? Oh, okay. Let's
Speaker:pick 1. Let's do I'm not doing enough or I'm not enough. I feel
Speaker:like that's a good ending one. Right? I am not enough. Yeah.
Speaker:Okay. So I think that this one somewhat comes back
Speaker:to the comparison game. I don't know why
Speaker:as human beings, we just we just don't feel qualified sometimes, and we
Speaker:have so much self doubt. We pick up so much of that, what I call,
Speaker:imposter syndrome. And, again, the truth is you're a really good
Speaker:mom. The fact that you're worried about it means that you're a really good
Speaker:mom. So, again, let's take a look at the things that actually matter
Speaker:most, the things that your kids wanna pursue, the things that they're interested in, and
Speaker:above all else, raising your kids to be honorable, productive
Speaker:humans. Right? Adults that that know how to function well
Speaker:in society, that know how to take care of their self, that that know how
Speaker:to provide for their self, and I rank very high on that list of
Speaker:important relationships. Teaching your kids how to build
Speaker:and develop good relationships, that really, really matters. I
Speaker:mean, communication and relationships, I would argue, are probably the most
Speaker:important things to be teaching your kids. So when you're feeling
Speaker:like you are not enough, you're not doing a good enough job, just keep
Speaker:in mind the really important things, what really actually matters. And I also
Speaker:want to stress to you that doing things little by
Speaker:little by little really matters. And so every day,
Speaker:you're doing these little things, all these days that you're feeling like you're not enough
Speaker:or you're not doing enough. If you're doing a little something, you're doing a lot
Speaker:because the little by little by little, it adds up. You're pouring into your kids.
Speaker:You're building up your kids. And at the end of the school year, you will
Speaker:be shocked and amazed at all the things that they have learned. This
Speaker:year, for my kids, I had them memorize an entire chapter of the Bible, Colossians
Speaker:chapter 3. Oh, wow. Good for you. Yeah. And yeah. And so it's
Speaker:25 verses. And so at the beginning of the school year, my kids were like,
Speaker:mom, we can't do that. We cannot. That is so much. It's
Speaker:so much. Right? And it looked overwhelming, but I was like, guys, we're gonna break
Speaker:this down little by little by little, and we're gonna learn and memorize
Speaker:about a verse per week or, you know, a verse every 1 to 2
Speaker:weeks. And at the end of the school year, man, they have the whole thing
Speaker:memorized like that, and we had a little end of the school year program and
Speaker:they recited it. They knew it like the back of their hand. So I just
Speaker:wanna stress that what you're pouring into your kids, what you're doing every day, little
Speaker:by little by little, it really matters, and you're doing a lot. You're doing a
Speaker:whole lot. I love that. And, yes, I love how just little
Speaker:by little, like, a whole chapter of the Bible. Like, how cool is that? But
Speaker:it was done, like, one line, 1 verse at a time, not, like,
Speaker:all at once. And I think that so often because
Speaker:progress is so little by little by little, we don't always notice
Speaker:it, and so we just keep saying, oh, I'm not enough or, oh, I'm not
Speaker:there yet. Like, even when we get to where the there was before, we
Speaker:just compare ourselves to the new there where we want to be instead of actually
Speaker:looking back and noticing how far we've come. So, for example, depending
Speaker:on where you are in your homeschool journey, like, if have a year under your
Speaker:belt, look back and see how much you've learned. Or if you even
Speaker:if you're just researching homeschooling or if you've been homeschooled for 20 years, no matter
Speaker:where you're at, look back and see how far have you come from when you
Speaker:first started or first decided to do this or even first had your kids.
Speaker:You'll be amazed at, like, oh, wow. I am so much more patient than I
Speaker:used to be, or we've got really got our routine down, or, oh, we found
Speaker:the right curriculum fit. And whatever it is, you have
Speaker:done more than you realize. And we tend to just write those things off and
Speaker:think that they don't matter anymore rather than owning those wins and be like, yes.
Speaker:Look how much I have accomplished. Look how much me and my kids have accomplished
Speaker:together. Instead, we just look at the lack. We look at, like, where we want
Speaker:to be. And this is actually a concept I learned from Dan Sullivan
Speaker:and Benjamin Hardy's book, The Gap in the Gain. Have you read that one? I
Speaker:have not. It is really good. So it's when we're in the gap, we're looking
Speaker:at that gap between where we are and where we wanna be and comparing and
Speaker:not in a good way because we can look at where we wanna be and,
Speaker:like, aspire to it. That's great. But we wanna do it from that place of
Speaker:seeing, oh, I if I came this far, then I can do that. But when
Speaker:we just look at, oh, I'm not there. I can't do that. That's terrible. And
Speaker:we just completely forget about how far we've come. We're in that gap. We're just
Speaker:in always in the gap that just keeps moving, that moving goal post, where
Speaker:instead we can look at, oh, the gain, how far I have come.
Speaker:And that's so much more powerful, and it gives us so much more momentum
Speaker:to get to where we want to go from that place of I am
Speaker:enough. Yeah. I love your thoughts on reflecting back, and I think that we
Speaker:don't allow ourselves the space to do that nearly enough. Because
Speaker:if you look back, truly at the clear big picture of
Speaker:where you were and where you are and even excitedly anticipating what's
Speaker:yet to come, I think you'll really see, again, that little by little
Speaker:concept and how far you truly have come. So, yeah, I think that's really important
Speaker:too, Kelsey. Let's close out today talking about the
Speaker:educate and rejuvenate event that is coming up. Kelsey, tell us all
Speaker:about it. Yes. I'm so excited. I wanted to share about the event. And then
Speaker:since this will also go on my show, I want you to share about what
Speaker:you're going to be teaching too So For sure. In your session.
Speaker:So the educate and rejuvenate event, what I love to say is that it's
Speaker:professional development meets personal development. You might think, oh, I'm not a professional, but it's
Speaker:just your teaching, up leveling your teaching, how you teach reading or writing or math
Speaker:or STEM or learning those up to date
Speaker:teaching research back topics. So if you're if you so if you're feeling like, oh,
Speaker:I'm not qualified to teach this, you can actually learn some of that stuff at
Speaker:this event. And, again, it's not because you're not qualified, but it's because we love
Speaker:to learn how to do it, how to teach better. So it's a great
Speaker:way to do that, to learn those skills, but, also, we have lots
Speaker:of of certified life coaches, like you and I, both presenting and
Speaker:sharing ways to destress, to, manage our emotions,
Speaker:to time management, things like that that
Speaker:help us with our homeschooling as well. So we have a full panel of
Speaker:homeschool presenters. Like I mentioned, I started my company working with teachers. We have
Speaker:a full teacher track. But then last year, I was like, I really wanna get
Speaker:the homeschoolers in on this. So last year, we added the homeschool track, and it
Speaker:was really successful. So we're keeping it. We're doing it again, and I'm so
Speaker:excited because I love like, that's what I do now. Since 2019, I've been a
Speaker:homeschool mom. I haven't been in the classroom for quite a while, so I'm really
Speaker:excited that we have all these homeschool sessions too. And the great thing is you
Speaker:can pick sessions from either track. You don't have to avoid the teacher
Speaker:track. You might wanna learn from some of those school teachers. They're amazing. And
Speaker:learn what they have to share and apply it to your homeschool. And then we
Speaker:also and, I mean, I'm jumping all over, but it's just because there is so
Speaker:much of this event. We start each day with either a yoga class or we
Speaker:have a dance class on the other day. So we start by energizing your
Speaker:body because I feel connecting with our bodies and our feelings, our emotions
Speaker:help us to be able to apply all this better. It's just really looking at
Speaker:you holistically as a homeschool mom so you can
Speaker:take care of yourself so you can better take care of your kids and
Speaker:teach them. Have more fun teaching them. Learn new strategies you can try. It'll make
Speaker:you excited. If you take a break for summer, for us, we're actually we still
Speaker:do a little bit during the summer because it allows us to just when we
Speaker:go on trips during the year, we don't stress it and we just we do
Speaker:what we do, you know? But it allows you to be, oh, here's some new
Speaker:things I can try for the next school year. So it's a lot of fun,
Speaker:basically. And we have a lot of lives. We will have the whole homeschool
Speaker:panel. So you'll wanna make sure to join that one. It's gonna be fun.
Speaker:I am so excited to participate in this, Kelsey. I know that you and
Speaker:your team have worked really, really hard to put a wonderful top notch
Speaker:event together for all of our families, and I'm just absolutely
Speaker:thrilled to be a part of it. I know both of us will link up
Speaker:in our our show notes or our blog wherever where listeners can go grab a
Speaker:ticket for that event because it is gonna be the don't miss event of the
Speaker:summer. And like I said, I could not be more thrilled to be a part
Speaker:of it. So the talk that I'm giving is actually geared specifically
Speaker:towards homeschool families, and I'm gonna be sharing our
Speaker:full story of our journey going from public school
Speaker:into homeschool. And so I'll dive into that. I love
Speaker:that. I'm gonna tell a really funny story about our pet
Speaker:turtle, believe it or not. We have random things over here, a
Speaker:pet turtle. We have chickens now. But so, anyway, you don't wanna miss that story
Speaker:because it is absolutely hilarious. It will shock you, so tune in for that
Speaker:story. And then I will be sharing the 3 simple steps that you
Speaker:can take to easily transition from public school into
Speaker:homeschool because, truly, it doesn't have to be scary. It really can be simple,
Speaker:and so I'm excited to share with the audience, Kelsey, about that
Speaker:topic. As we come to a close today, I'm gonna share all the places that
Speaker:you can find me, and then I'm gonna hand it over to Kelsey to to
Speaker:close this out. So, again, Katie Hedrick. You can find me on
Speaker:social media. Mostly, I'm on Facebook and TikTok,
Speaker:actually. I love to post over there. It's so fun. It's so
Speaker:much fun. Tons of homeschool content over on my TikTok
Speaker:and the joy at home podcast, of course, and then you
Speaker:can go grab and check out all my homeschool resources over at
Speaker:teachmetohomeschool.com, and I look so forward
Speaker:to connecting with you. With that, I'm gonna hand it over to Kelsey and let
Speaker:her sign us off for today. Alright. Thank you so much again,
Speaker:Katie, for reaching out for us to do this episode together. It's been
Speaker:such a fun time. Also, I can't wait to hear that turtle story. You got
Speaker:me intrigued. I'm like, oh, gotta hear about this turtle now, so gotta make sure
Speaker:to watch Katie's session. Don't miss it. But you can
Speaker:find me like I mentioned, we're actually in the process of rebranding. But by the
Speaker:time this episode airs on both podcasts, the website should be educateandrejuvenatedot
Speaker:com. You can also find me on Instagram at educate and rejuvenate, Facebook at educate
Speaker:and rejuvenate, the educate and rejuvenate podcast, and then my upcoming
Speaker:book, Educate and Rejuvenate. Pretty much just search for Educate and
Speaker:Rejuvenate, and you will find me. It has been such a
Speaker:joy cocreating this podcast episode with you. I just really wanna
Speaker:personally thank you for sharing your time and expertise with us today. You
Speaker:too. This has been so much fun, and this will be a great episode to
Speaker:go on both shows. So whichever one you are listening to, if you're on educate
Speaker:and rejuvenate the podcast right now, be sure to go subscribe to joy at home
Speaker:if you enjoyed this episode and vice versa. If you're listening on joy at home,
Speaker:make sure to pop over to educate and rejuvenate the podcast. We would love for
Speaker:you to have both of us supporting you in your earbuds each week.
Speaker:Yes. And be sure to grab your ticket to educate and rejuvenate, and Kelsey and
Speaker:I will see you there this summer. For now, we're signing off
Speaker:with joy. If you enjoyed this episode, please
Speaker:hit subscribe so you don't miss the next one. And if you're hungry for
Speaker:more, be sure to check out the book that I wrote. It's called Educate and
Speaker:Rejuvenate, a 3 step guide to revitalize your teaching, renew your
Speaker:spirit, and reignite your passion for life. It is scheduled to
Speaker:be released in the summer of 2024. This book takes all the life
Speaker:coaching skills we talk about here on the podcast and puts them together in one
Speaker:easy to understand guide. Plus, when you pre order, you'll receive a PDF
Speaker:workbook and additional resources to deepen your understanding and
Speaker:application of the concepts we've covered on the book and on this podcast.
Speaker:You won't find these resources anywhere else. Visit the link in the show
Speaker:notes to join the wait list and be the 1st to know when the book
Speaker:becomes available for pre order. Let's continue this journey of growth and
Speaker:rejuvenation together. Until next
Speaker:time.