Getting your lawn to look like a golf course without the nasty chemicals? Count me in! In this episode of the podcast, Eric G and John Dudley are joined by the lawn whisperer himself, Craig Elworthy from Lawnbright. They dive into the nitty-gritty of lawn care, discussing how to achieve that luscious green lawn while keeping your furry friends and the environment safe. Craig shares his wisdom on organic alternatives that work wonders without the toxic side effects. From soil testing to tailored nutrient plans, it's all about understanding what your lawn needs, just like how we all need a good breakfast to kickstart our day. There's a whole science behind the products Lawnbright offers, and trust me, once you hear Craig break it down, you'll be ready to grab your hose and get to work. Plus, there’s plenty of humorous banter about HOA regulations and the never-ending quest to impress the neighbors with your lawn game. So if you've ever felt overwhelmed by lawn care or just want to impress your friends at the next BBQ, this episode is packed with golden nuggets of advice and just the right amount of laughs.
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Speaker C:Welcome to the around the House show, your trusted source for everything about your home.
Speaker C:Thanks for joining us today.
Speaker C:John Dudley, Good to see you, my friend.
Speaker A:What's happening, brother?
Speaker C:Man, this is going to be a good one today.
Speaker C:And I'm excited to talk with Craig Elworthy, Lawn Bright.
Speaker C:This is your answer for fixing your yard and getting that lawn to be the greenest one in the neighborhood and the healthiest.
Speaker C:Welcome back to around the House Brother.
Speaker D:Yeah, thanks for having me.
Speaker D:Great to see you again, man.
Speaker C:This is always fun talking about this because we were talking before I was the proverbial lawn guy.
Speaker C:I wanted to have the good, lean, green, healthy lawn.
Speaker C:But the problem was I just go into the, into the home improvement store and go, I'll get a bag of that.
Speaker C:And whatever I'd pointed out, I throw on there and then wonder why it's not working.
Speaker C:You sure fixed my lawn a few years ago and got it dialed in.
Speaker C:So had to have you back on for the lawn wars.
Speaker C:For the people out there that maybe have an HOA that's telling, they better fix their lawn or even worse, you got the worst looking lawn in the neighborhood.
Speaker D:Yeah, right.
Speaker D:And, and that's where we're here to fix, honestly.
Speaker D:And I'm glad it worked out for you as well.
Speaker D:So.
Speaker D:Yeah, and that's, that's really where we found our little face in the marketplace.
Speaker D:Because for the longest time, 40 plus years going back, lawn care, you had two options, right?
Speaker D:You either did what you did, right?
Speaker D:You walk into a big box store and you just grab something off the shelf or you sign up for a hands off lawn care service where they're going to come and pump your lawn full of God knows what.
Speaker D:And then it might look great for a while, but over time it starts to deteriorate.
Speaker D:So we found that there's a space in between that where a lot of people like to kind of live.
Speaker D:They like to do it themselves, but they just need a little bit of guidance to do it.
Speaker D:And it's not hard.
Speaker D:It's very simple.
Speaker D:You just, all the stuff is liquid.
Speaker D:You attach it to a hose and you spray.
Speaker D:And so we've been able to kind of carve out that niche in between.
Speaker D:And it's actually been pretty good for us.
Speaker C:I've always wondered, do you pay for those services out there?
Speaker C:And I'm like, wonder what they're putting on my lawn?
Speaker C:Is that just water?
Speaker C:Is it water and a little bit of fertilizer?
Speaker C:Is it some toxic chemical smudge that came out of someplace else that they're just getting rid of what's going on in there?
Speaker C:And it's something that you're paying a bunch of money for.
Speaker C:And, and I know today people are looking at going, maybe I'll do something myself and take that off the, off the bills for the month and try to save some money, because that stuff gets pretty expensive when you're paying somebody else to do it.
Speaker D:Yeah, it sure does.
Speaker D:I mean, and they're treating your lawn like a factory.
Speaker D:Right.
Speaker D:They're adding synthetic chemicals, you're adding water, and they're killing weeds.
Speaker D:And then you just repeat the process forever.
Speaker D:But what it's really doing to your soil is actually depleting the soil health, because what they're doing is they're just putting a bunch of nitrogen on there.
Speaker D:And nitrogen uses up a lot of the stuff in your soil, but it never replaces it.
Speaker D:So you're kind of taking the opposite approach.
Speaker D:They're focused on what's above your ground, we're focused on what's below it.
Speaker D:And we're using organics, we're using natural ingredients, things like kelp, cornmeal, molasses, everything that you can pronounce.
Speaker D:And it turns out that if you're doing that, you're actually feeding them the soil microbiome.
Speaker D:We always talk about the gut micro microbiome.
Speaker D:Right.
Speaker D:But soil microbiome as well.
Speaker D:And it.
Speaker D:And it's an interdependence between organisms and your living grass systems.
Speaker D:And if you're feeding it the right stuff, then it's actually going to be much healthier over time and you're going to need a lot less of those inputs.
Speaker D:So that's kind of where we've staked our claim here.
Speaker D:And like I said, it seems to be kind of resonating.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:So I know how this starts, but I bet a lot of people don't out there, when people sign up for your product, we're starting out with science, aren't we?
Speaker A:We are.
Speaker D:Although we kind of make it easy for you, there's not much that you're going to need to know about it.
Speaker D:Right.
Speaker D:So we're going to send you a soil test kit and Depending on the time of the year, we might send you some nutrients alongside that as well.
Speaker D:But all you're going to do is take a few scoops of dirt from around your yard, you send it back to us in a prepaid mailer, and then our lab does the rest.
Speaker D:So our lab is going to analyze your soil and we are going to then customize a plan for you that is going to deliver the right nutrients at the right time of year for your grass to thrive.
Speaker D:So that's kind of the start and the end of really the science from your perspective.
Speaker D:You'll get a readout of it, you'll see what your, all of these different metrics are.
Speaker D:But you don't have to get too involved with it because we're kind of layering on top of that our knowledge about what we know about lawns and soil.
Speaker D:And we're, we're then applying the right product mix for you.
Speaker C:That's cool, takes all the work out of it for you.
Speaker C:Because I tell you what, depending on where you're at in the country here in the Pacific Northwest, where I am and where John used to be, you could have these big fir trees that are just dumping tons of acid on the soil, and then you've got all the fats that's in there and there's maybe clay soil on top of it.
Speaker C:So you've got all these different challenges and you guys can help combat that.
Speaker D:Yeah, I mean, there's so much going on on everyone's lawn.
Speaker C:Right.
Speaker D:Everyone has their own even microclimates on their own lawn itself.
Speaker D:So you got lots of shade, you got lots of sun.
Speaker D:And so we kind of synthesize all of that just by using your soil biology and then basically making a plan for you.
Speaker D:And then we'll guide you along the way as well.
Speaker D:So we have a real time weather and climate tracking system that we use that will send notifications to say, hey, looks like you're not going to get any rain for a while.
Speaker D:Make sure you're, you're getting enough water on your lawn or hey, it's going to be really hot out there today.
Speaker D:If you were going to spray something, just hang out and wait until the next day because you don't want to stress your turf too much.
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Speaker D:What we also found was that proactive guidance like that, it's time to dethatch, for example, that goes such a long way in helping customers to have good outcomes for their lawn.
Speaker D:Because really, the.
Speaker D:The fertilizing is only half of it.
Speaker D:Right.
Speaker D:The other stuff is what you do with your lawn.
Speaker D:The cultural practices.
Speaker D:Right.
Speaker D:The watering, the mowing, the blocking and tackling.
Speaker D:Stuff that nobody ever really puts too much thought into but is really a lot of the equation.
Speaker D:So we're guiding you from kind of both of those, from both of those aspects to make sure you have a good outcome.
Speaker C:Nice.
Speaker C:John, you are probably the least lawn guy that I know.
Speaker C:You're.
Speaker C:You're not a lawn guy.
Speaker A:Ex wife mowed the lawn, dude.
Speaker A:I'll be honest.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker A:And it's.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:It's that thing where you're like, well, I was gonna do the dishes in the morning.
Speaker A:Well, I don't want them to sit there all night.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:Well, I was gonna mow the lawn tomorrow.
Speaker A:Well, I can't take it.
Speaker A:It's too long.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:But I do.
Speaker A:I want to say, Craig, you're making absolute sense.
Speaker A:Like, you're nutritionist of grass.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:Every body is different.
Speaker A:We go to a nutritionist.
Speaker A:I really don't need them to tell me my cortisol levels are.
Speaker A:I do, but whatever.
Speaker A:I don't need to understand the science of it.
Speaker A:But.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:You can shoot a bunch of steroids and get big muscles, which is what sprinkling a bunch of toxic craziness is.
Speaker A:Or you can eat chicken and rice like the doctor ordered and grow your body like it's supposed to grow according to your specific makeup.
Speaker A:And, and I think the notifications on weather and saying, hey, don't do this, do that.
Speaker A:The preemptive strike is brilliant, man.
Speaker A:That's super great for customer care, customer service and customer satisfaction.
Speaker A:That goes a long ways.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:You're never running out of business with.
Speaker D:A model like that.
Speaker A:So hats off, man.
Speaker A:Super smart.
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Speaker B:Now let's get back to saving you some money on your lawn with Craig from Lawn Brite.
Speaker C:And the cool thing is this could save you water, too.
Speaker C:If you're paying for water out there and you're just dumping water on it.
Speaker C:Well, it's, it's a little brown.
Speaker C:I need more water.
Speaker C:Maybe that's not the case.
Speaker D:Totally.
Speaker A:That'd be me.
Speaker D:The biggest.
Speaker A:Why does it look like dirt just flooded?
Speaker A:It'll come back.
Speaker D:Yeah.
Speaker D:Little do they know, right?
Speaker D:It's just.
Speaker D:That's the end of it right there.
Speaker D:You put too much water on and that's enough.
Speaker D:So that's, that's a huge factor as well, is the ability to reduce the inputs that you're.
Speaker D:You're putting on your lawn.
Speaker D:Right.
Speaker D:We're providing you with, with some of the things.
Speaker D:Not, not.
Speaker D:We're not going to get you.
Speaker D:We're not.
Speaker D:You're never going to be the highest nitrogen application.
Speaker D:And that's what kind of.
Speaker D:Everyone's kind of fixated on.
Speaker D:But over time.
Speaker D:Yeah, the ability to use less water.
Speaker D:The grass seeds that we've, we've selected are selected for a reason because they do require less input.
Speaker D:So it is very much a system that all kind of fits together that makes sure that it's not just what you're applying for fertilizer, it's what you're watering practices look like.
Speaker D:It's what your mowing practices look like and then what the actual seed is itself that you're putting on there.
Speaker D:You'd be surprised how much just horrible garbage seed is out there just sitting on the racks of these stores that they got weeds in them.
Speaker D:They have all sorts.
Speaker D:They have crops.
Speaker D:So, like corn is in there.
Speaker D:There's a percentage that's great in August.
Speaker C:When I'm barbecuing, but other than that, I don't need it.
Speaker D:Exactly right.
Speaker D:And these are the things that really.
Speaker D:No, they're not really well known.
Speaker D:So nobody knows what they're doing when they go to these stores.
Speaker D:Well, some people do and I shouldn't, but a lot of people are just.
Speaker D:Most people are uninformed about this stuff, so they end up over applying this stuff and they end up.
Speaker D:It ends up running off into waterways and they end up using a ton more than they actually need to do.
Speaker D:So that's one of the benefits that we're starting to see.
Speaker A:Well, and what's allowed to lose sleep at night, Craig?
Speaker A:I'm only allowed to have balconies now.
Speaker A:I'm not hurt.
Speaker A:No grass is being hurt during this interview.
Speaker D:Yeah, I'll sleep well.
Speaker D:I'll sleep well, Craig.
Speaker C:The cool thing is too, is like, I think it's great with pets because Johnny's a dog guy, I'm a dog guy.
Speaker C:And knowing that you're putting your pets out in the lawn that's not loaded up with God knows what.
Speaker D:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker D:100.
Speaker D:And that's actually one of the most interesting things that most people we find are.
Speaker D:Are actually they're asking about their pets before they're asking about even their kids.
Speaker D:Right.
Speaker D:They're.
Speaker A:They're right.
Speaker A:Thinking the pet's gonna track it in the house where the kid crawls around.
Speaker D:Yeah, it's wild, but it is a big.
Speaker D:It's a big proponent for what we're doing is making sure that everything we're putting out there is.
Speaker D:Is safe for people and pets and wildlife.
Speaker D:So it's for sure.
Speaker D:It's a, it's.
Speaker D:It's.
Speaker D:It's something we focus on.
Speaker C:It's smart.
Speaker C:And how does that affect the lawn?
Speaker C:Because so many people are letting their dogs out and they're going in the bathroom in the backyard and stuff like that.
Speaker C:Having a healthier lawn sure makes that a little less damaging out there.
Speaker C:Doesn't can.
Speaker D:Yeah.
Speaker D:I mean, it certainly ain't gonna fix it, but a dog is going to impact your lawn one way or the other, but it helps to make it more resilient.
Speaker D:And if you use inputs that, for example, sea kelp and I won't get too much into science, but it's very strong in potassium and potassium is a big immunity booster for the soil.
Speaker D:So using things like that, then your lawn is.
Speaker D:Is more resilient to foot traffic or pet Waste or anything really like that.
Speaker D:It finds its way onto it and it sure, it sure will.
Speaker D:Right.
Speaker D:Especially if you have, have pets.
Speaker D:So yeah, it's.
Speaker D:It's certainly a big help.
Speaker C:Yeah, that's cool because I tell you what, it's just one of those pet things out there that people are always thinking about.
Speaker C:And then you got the hoas out there too.
Speaker C:That man, I've had more people reach out talking to me about the hoas of I've got dogs or whatever, or they're coming by and writing tickets for the front lawn not being green enough or whatever.
Speaker C:And that's kind of the new thing I'm starting to see that that is more awareness, I guess that people are just complaining about out there is that you've got these, you got the neighborhood Karen going around taking pictures and writing citations.
Speaker C:Sorry, Karen's.
Speaker C:But it's happening.
Speaker A:Sorry, but stop.
Speaker D:Yeah, it's.
Speaker D:It's so funny that you mentioned that too because that's something that has.
Speaker D:We used to never with our six year in business now and first couple, not really.
Speaker D:I don't think we had one single HOA inquiry over the past few years.
Speaker D:All of a sudden it's just taken off.
Speaker D:It's like people coming, reaching out to us saying my HOA is going to find me because my lawn isn't good enough.
Speaker D:What do I do?
Speaker D:Right, like, okay, we can certainly help you there.
Speaker D:But like I don't know what happened to.
Speaker D:Or if there's just more people now living in hoas, but it's just, it's pretty wild.
Speaker C:Yeah, I'm seeing, what I'm seeing out there now is there's so many new developments where these big national builders are coming in.
Speaker C:They're creating HOAs.
Speaker C:And this is a whole other episode.
Speaker C:But what I'm seeing is they're creating HOAs.
Speaker C:And when they create these HOAs, they're starting the management.
Speaker C:They're putting on kind of their pseudo management company to do that.
Speaker C:And so what you're seeing is some builders are kind of, I guess they're defaulting it back to the hoa.
Speaker C:So instead of them getting sued for construction defects, the HOA says, oh, we need to do maintenance and we need to pay for this.
Speaker C:Even though it was probably a construction defect.
Speaker C:So you're seeing a lot more of those kind of as a self protection from the builders to creating these HOAs so that, well, all of a sudden they're not getting sued, but the homeowners end up having to pay for it anyway.
Speaker C:And then You've got the people in there with that.
Speaker C:So we've been doing a lot of studies on that and it's amazing how many builders are still controlling the HOAS years later.
Speaker D:That's interesting.
Speaker D:And as you were talking, it reminded me that new construction soil is just garbage so much.
Speaker C:You mean 3 inches of topsoil over a rock?
Speaker D:Yeah.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker D:There's so much of that going on as well that I'm sure that's a reason for that uptick.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:It's funny my.
Speaker C:My little brother who can be abrasive at times and I'll just leave it at that.
Speaker C:He obviously made his builder mad because he had a new house built and he couldn't figure out why his front yard was, was not growing.
Speaker C:And they had washed out the concrete truck in the front yard and put an inch and a half of dirt over the top of it and there was this layer of just like thin concrete over the whole thing.
Speaker C:And why isn't this growing?
Speaker C:No topsoil.
Speaker A:Standard.
Speaker A:Standard practice.
Speaker D:Yeah.
Speaker D:I don't know.
Speaker C:I don't know.
Speaker D:We can help him.
Speaker D:We can help a lot of people.
Speaker D:I'm not sure we can do that.
Speaker C:You're not.
Speaker C:That's.
Speaker C:That's.
Speaker C:You got to get in and break that up.
Speaker C:That he had to go and I think and dig that all up and mix it.
Speaker C:But that is the biggest thing.
Speaker C:And what I'm seeing too is you'll see them bringing this low grade topsoil that they fill in with.
Speaker C:And it's either rock or it's like this massive clay layer underneath.
Speaker C:That causes another issue.
Speaker C:What can you do to help with yards that are just in this.
Speaker C:In the, in the winter season here when it's wet that just gets so mucky and slippery out in the grass.
Speaker C:Is there a way to break clay up or help with that through the process?
Speaker D:There's a couple ways.
Speaker D:Yeah.
Speaker D:There's the, the mechanical part of it, which is aeration.
Speaker D:Right.
Speaker D:You run a core aerator over it and it's, it's very effective.
Speaker D:Right.
Speaker D:And you do it, but it's.
Speaker D:They're.
Speaker D:They're a pain in the butt.
Speaker D:Right.
Speaker D:You have to go messy from the Home Depot and you have to get a truck for it.
Speaker D:You have to bring it off, kill yourself getting it off.
Speaker D:Right.
Speaker D:And then get it.
Speaker D:Because these things are like £150, but it works very well.
Speaker D:Or you could hire a service to do it.
Speaker D:There's also liquid aeration products out there as well and they work to, they work in Kind of a different way they use surfactants to kind of allow water to penetrate deep into the soil profile which helps to alleviate the compaction over time.
Speaker D:Because what you're seeing with that pooling is really compaction.
Speaker D:Right.
Speaker D:That's that clay soils is not allowing it to go down any further.
Speaker D:But so there's.
Speaker D:That stuff is starting to come on actually the market and has, has come on in the last probably five or so years.
Speaker D:We offer one.
Speaker D:There's some, there's some others out there as well but those are your kind of couple options.
Speaker D:And then there's always batch is a big problem as well.
Speaker D:And it, and it allows the water and the nutrients to kind of just sit there in the, in that layer and not pen down any further.
Speaker D:So there's again there's things you can do to kind of break that up.
Speaker D:It takes time to do it right.
Speaker D:It's nothing is really a quick fix at all.
Speaker D:And that's what we, we've certainly found that as well called pavers.
Speaker D:That's it.
Speaker A:You just saved yourself a ton of time, a ton of work, a ton of one one weekend a solid crew.
Speaker A:Pavers done.
Speaker A:Thanks.
Speaker C:Yeah, that's.
Speaker C:That's Johnny's lawn care.
Speaker C:Yep.
Speaker C:Pave over it.
Speaker C:Call it a day.
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Speaker B:Welcome back to around the House.
Speaker B:First time catching the show.
Speaker B:Find out more about [email protected] now let's get back to saving you some money on your lawn with Craig from Lawnbright.
Speaker A:There's always not to take away from your business Craig, but I'm just saying somebody dumps a concrete truck in your front yard, I mean maybe pavers aren't so bad.
Speaker D:Maybe you were just have a lawn.
Speaker D:That's right.
Speaker D:Yeah.
Speaker C:That's awesome.
Speaker C:It's one of those things too that, that I've noticed that one of the cool things was I noticed that I didn't have as much thatcher by about year two years.
Speaker C:And using your guys service it seemed like that was cut down significantly.
Speaker C:I didn't change the lawnmower, didn't change how I was doing it because I was using the recycle on the lawnmower.
Speaker C:So I wasn't bagging it, I was just letting it go through and put that stuff back on the ground again.
Speaker C:But I noticed my thatch was way down on year two and that must have been just with a healthier lawn and things were breaking down better.
Speaker D:Yeah.
Speaker D:And that's part of restoring that.
Speaker D:That soil microbiology that we're talking about.
Speaker D:Right.
Speaker D:Is that if you have.
Speaker D:If you have that healthy ecosystem working and regenerating itself, then it is starting to.
Speaker D:And it.
Speaker D:And it's always good to have a little bit of that.
Speaker D:Right.
Speaker D:You never want more than probably half an inch, but you do want some because there is some benefit to that.
Speaker D:But a healthy system in itself is going to kind of work through that on its own.
Speaker D:So.
Speaker D:Yeah.
Speaker D:And a lot of that is down to what we want to use for our ingredients.
Speaker D:Right.
Speaker D:And making sure like things like molasses is great because it's going to.
Speaker D:The soil microbiome is basically, basically going to just explode and in population.
Speaker D:Right.
Speaker D:With that over time.
Speaker D:So there's things that.
Speaker D:And as you continue to put down these.
Speaker D:These sprays, they will build on themselves.
Speaker D:But yeah, that's probably like what you were seeing there.
Speaker C:Nice, nice.
Speaker C:And there's gotta be for you guys, being that you're across the U.S. grass is so much different than Florida, than it is in Washington state or what it is in the Northeast or in the Midwest.
Speaker C:It's got to be interesting looking at all these different climate zones and types of grass.
Speaker D:It's wild.
Speaker D:So actually I just really, I just recently learned this that the.
Speaker D:The United States is the country with the most diverse climate in the world.
Speaker D:Right.
Speaker D:You have all these different climate zones.
Speaker D:We go From I think 1 to 11.
Speaker D:And those are just basically like the freeze levels and things like that.
Speaker D:But so working within that and all, you know, we're not in lack in Hawaii, but all the continental United States there's.
Speaker D:The complexity is just vast.
Speaker D:So having to figure out and anticipate really what is going to happen year from year.
Speaker D:Right.
Speaker D:Based on.
Speaker D:And we base these on the last 10 years plus of soil temperatures and things like that.
Speaker D:There's kind of a lot going into this pie here.
Speaker D:And kind of synthesizing all this stuff is a challenge, but it's also really fascinating to see the differences.
Speaker D:And someone from.
Speaker D:You're right, from Miami is going to have a completely different experience than somebody that lives in Augusta, Maine, for example.
Speaker D:Right.
Speaker D:And we have customers, all of those customers.
Speaker D:So.
Speaker D:And they have different types of grasses with different needs and different inputs.
Speaker D:And all of them have varying levels of ph, which is why that sort of one size fits all mentality just doesn't work.
Speaker D:Right.
Speaker D:And has never really worked.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:I was surprised because we have the beach house, which basically is grass and sand.
Speaker C:I mean, it's just what it is.
Speaker C:There's a little soil there, but it's pretty much grass and sand.
Speaker C:And dealing with that and keeping that healthy is completely different than doing at my house, for instance.
Speaker C:And that's just in the same or similar climate zone.
Speaker C:Just the soil type is so different.
Speaker D:Sure.
Speaker D:And you're going to need so much more water because of the sand profile.
Speaker D:Right.
Speaker D:Because sand just allows water to just run through it.
Speaker D:So all of that stuff needs to be kind of taken into account.
Speaker D:And all that stuff actually comes out in the soil test.
Speaker D:We know exactly what type of soil you have, Sandra Clay.
Speaker D:We know the organic content in that soil and then what to do with that and how to kind of manipulate that to make sure that you might have a PH that's just naturally going to be above 7, which isn't who like to be between 6 and 7.
Speaker D:But we can still work with that.
Speaker D:Right.
Speaker D:We can give you options to try to bring that down a little bit.
Speaker D:We can bring it down in our product mix.
Speaker D:But it's not to say that you're never going to have a healthy, good looking lawn because your PH is just naturally high.
Speaker D:Some people's PH is just naturally up there and it's just a matter of kind of working within that.
Speaker D:And we've seen now thousands of customers with, and being able to put all this information together is I think, kind of unique.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:I really noticed how much on just real quick, I'm not gonna get in the weeds on this, but the PH trying to get that changed, especially in my house that had 30 years or 40 years of lawn in it and huge fir trees over the top of it, trying to, to reverse 40 years of bad lawn care and change the soil physical, that doesn't happen overnight.
Speaker D:No way.
Speaker D:No.
Speaker D:And, and it, if you did, you would kill your lawn.
Speaker D:Right.
Speaker D:Because we would tell people, listen, you're gonna need 40 pounds of lime per thousand square feet.
Speaker D:But don't do it all at once.
Speaker D:Right.
Speaker D:You can't, because it's just not gonna work the way that you want it to.
Speaker D:So you're gonna have to break this up into different applications, especially with things like sulfur where you have to bring down the pH.
Speaker D:It's a slow process that happens.
Speaker D:And we always tell people it's a marathon, not a sprint to correct something like pH, which is probably the most important data point that you're looking at.
Speaker D:Because what it does is if you're outside of your Target range of ph.
Speaker D:All of these nutrients that we're providing are much less available to the plant.
Speaker D:So we want to get that really in a good spot.
Speaker D:And it takes some time.
Speaker D:It's just how it goes.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker A:I'll be honest, before we run out.
Speaker C:Of time, I want to make sure that we talk about where to find you, how this process works.
Speaker C:I mean, of course you can go to getlombright.com but what's the process when you start out.
Speaker D:Yeah, sure thing.
Speaker D:And so you got it.
Speaker D:Go to getlombright.com you take a short quiz, click on get my custom lawn plan.
Speaker D:We ask you, I think, between three or four questions, and then we'll find out essentially your location and the size of your lawn.
Speaker D:And from there, we can give you a custom quote.
Speaker D:You can select various options and then check out.
Speaker D:You get your soil test kit within a week, you send that in, and then from there on in, your.
Speaker D:Your applications are customized.
Speaker D:And we'll give you, at the right time of year, the products that you need to apply them.
Speaker D:And we'll remind you, hey, what's this?
Speaker D:It's time to apply this product.
Speaker D:Do it in this timeframe.
Speaker D:And that's generally how it works.
Speaker C:And I see on the website, too, you've got natural pest control stuff, too, where you're starting to do some barriers and stuff.
Speaker C:What's the story on that?
Speaker D:Yeah, so we actually just launched that this year, Pureguard, which is our natural pest barrier that you.
Speaker D:A lot of stuff was.
Speaker D:We are perimeter sprays really around the.
Speaker D:Around the property.
Speaker D:But we just introduced this, which is around your home, preventing things like ants and spiders, terminators, a lot of the insects that find their way into your house.
Speaker D:We, again, using our.
Speaker D:And staying true to our philosophy, using all natural ingredients, things like cedarwood oil, garlic oil, and white pepper oil.
Speaker D:And then.
Speaker C:Sounds like a barbecue.
Speaker D:Yeah.
Speaker D:My daughter says it smells like the school cafeteria, which, I don't know, is it.
Speaker D:It's a good.
Speaker D:Could be a good.
Speaker C:Well, I mean, if you're dealing with pest control, that's not bad.
Speaker C:But.
Speaker D:But yeah, no, you just, you spray it around the.
Speaker D:The perimeter of your house.
Speaker D:And it's designed to.
Speaker D:Yeah.
Speaker D:To keep those insects out.
Speaker C:That's cool.
Speaker A:That's a nice little app to do that in Portland.
Speaker C:So Craig, he's making fun of us here because there's a initiative process that they're trying to get through.
Speaker C:People are trying to get us to ban pest control, including where they basically, they want to make killing mice to deer to Fishing illegal.
Speaker C:So, yeah, I'm like awesome with the Hana virus stuff.
Speaker C:They're gonna make it so we can't kill rats and mice.
Speaker C:That sounds like a great idea.
Speaker C:Sign me up.
Speaker D:Yeah.
Speaker D:Yeah.
Speaker A:They'll move on to.
Speaker A:If that passes, they'll move on to ants and spiders and mosquitoes and it's all living.
Speaker A:I do want to say, you know, like.
Speaker D:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker A:Thank you.
Speaker C:Well, and that's, that's the cool part is I've, I used it on mine and it worked well.
Speaker C:And there's.
Speaker D:You're.
Speaker C:It's so simple.
Speaker C:You're literally reading the directions which you should be doing, hooking up the hose end sprayer and wetting the lawn down and you're done.
Speaker C:It's.
Speaker C:It's really that simple.
Speaker C:This isn't get out the spreader and, and what's the setting?
Speaker C:And.
Speaker C:And yeah, the spreader is not working.
Speaker C:And it's so simple.
Speaker D:Yeah.
Speaker D:And that's, that's part of our kind of the things that are.
Speaker D:We've.
Speaker D:We've designed for.
Speaker D:Right.
Speaker D:One is natural.
Speaker D:Two is guided.
Speaker D:And then three, simplicity.
Speaker D:People just don't want to mix or measure or do any.
Speaker D:They just want to hook something up to a hose, spray it and be done.
Speaker D:So that's another part of this as well is that really all you need is a garden hose will give you the spray adapter even to attach it to the bottle.
Speaker D:So that's really all.
Speaker C:And it's way cheaper than having those companies that are coming out there every few weeks or every month or whatever spraying all those chemicals on your lawn.
Speaker C:And this is just such a better way to do it.
Speaker C:And you can leave a little more pocket money instead of paying those guys.
Speaker C:You can do this and spend it goes fast, what, 20 minutes you're knocking stuff out and.
Speaker C:And you're good.
Speaker C:And now you've got a much healthier lawn.
Speaker D:Yep, that's right.
Speaker D:That's the idea.
Speaker C:Craig, is there anything we missed today, brother?
Speaker D:No, I think we got it.
Speaker D:Thanks guys.
Speaker D:This is great.
Speaker D:I really appreciate you having me on.
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Speaker B:Now let's get back to saving you some money on your lawn with Craig from Lawn Bright.
Speaker C:Craig, is there anything we missed today, brother?
Speaker D:No, I think we got it.
Speaker D:Thanks Guys, this was great.
Speaker D:I really appreciate you having me on, man.
Speaker C:I love this product.
Speaker C:I've used it.
Speaker C:It's just great.
Speaker C:And even for people like John out there that don't take care of lawns anymore, it's easy.
Speaker A:There's nothing wrong with that.
Speaker C:That's what the kid in the neighborhood's for.
Speaker C:But Craig, it's just so great to watch you guys grow and get bigger and you're just out there crushing.
Speaker C:I'm seeing your ads everywhere out there, so that's also a good sign.
Speaker C:But it's just so fun to see something that's healthy, that's easy, it can save you money and it's great for the environment because you're not putting stuff down on your lawn that quite frankly, it doesn't need.
Speaker A:No, I love this.
Speaker D:Like, yeah, super cool.
Speaker C:Yeah, that's great.
Speaker C:Craig, give me the website one more time before we go out.
Speaker D:Yeah, sure thing.
Speaker D:It's getlawnbright.com Craig.
Speaker C:Thanks again, brother.
Speaker C:I appreciate it.
Speaker C:Tell you what, John, Craig is always informative.
Speaker C:Coming down to lawn care, that guy has just got it dialed in.
Speaker C:It's a lot of fun to talk about that kind of stuff.
Speaker A:You know what, I'll be honest, I was not excited to talk about grass because as you mentioned, not being a grass guy or a yard guy for that matter, but the approach and the science behind it was super interesting for me.
Speaker A:Like that.
Speaker A:You know me, I'll go down any rabbit hole that's exciting and challenging, but just their approach and their customer service and delivering a great product.
Speaker A:I admire that as a business person myself.
Speaker A:And yeah, he actually made grass kind of interesting.
Speaker A:Very interesting and exciting.
Speaker A:How about that?
Speaker C:Making grass sexy again.
Speaker C:I love it.
Speaker A:Dude, that's a T shirt.
Speaker C:It is, it is.
Speaker C:And I tell you what, you know, a lot of people are worried about, you know, with.
Speaker C:Across the country, utilities are not getting any cheaper.
Speaker C:Everything's getting more expensive here.
Speaker C:And, and water, if you're paying for it, can be super expensive.
Speaker C:I mean, it's funny, here in the Pacific Northwest we have some of the highest water rates in the country.
Speaker C:Even though they say it rains all the time, but it's one of those things where it gets super expensive.
Speaker C:So anything you can do to keep your lawn looking awesome and save a little money is smart.
Speaker C:And there are so many new ways these days to save money.
Speaker C:Watering your lawn and still keep it looking good.
Speaker C:With all the smart timers out there, if you've got like one of those old 25 year old orbit or rain bird or whatever timer systems, you can upgrade that into one of the new smart ones, save you some serious money and, you know, saving on you spending a hundred or two hundred bucks on a new timer system and then putting that in and letting AI and the weather help you.
Speaker C:Because to me, there's.
Speaker C:When you're paying for water, there's nothing more frustrated than going to pull out to go someplace in the morning and it's dumping rain and the sprinklers are running.
Speaker C:And I'm like, what is going on here?
Speaker C:I'm wasting money today.
Speaker A:Yep.
Speaker A:Yeah, we talked about those smart sprinklers a couple episodes back.
Speaker A:And the combination of, you know, getting your soil right, getting your PH is right, and that immediate, like, just the science that we were just talking about immediately makes it more efficient.
Speaker A:Less water needed, better growth better.
Speaker A:But then, yeah, couple that with that hypersonic Star wars sprinkler system that ex, you know, that dials in the exact perimeter so it doesn't hit the car or doesn't hit the rose bush, that doesn't need it.
Speaker A:But specifically just the pieces of grass that need it and creates so much efficiency there.
Speaker A:Like, yeah, it's.
Speaker A:You can really dial things in nowadays.
Speaker C:You can.
Speaker C:And for guys out there listening on the podcast player, make sure you go back and find those episodes.
Speaker C:Just look up like earring or.
Speaker C:Or lawn care.
Speaker C:We've done a lot about it in the past, and we've got some new stuff coming up in the future you want to keep an eye out for.
Speaker C:Because I tell you what, I can't wait to be talking more about outdoor living.
Speaker C:And we're going to be talking a little bit more about decks and, of course, outdoor cooking.
Speaker C:So there's a lot coming up this year where you'll want to stay connected with us on.
Speaker C:And make sure you hit the subscribe button or if you're listening on the radio, just make sure you tune in each Saturday or Sunday, depending on where you're at on the radio network.
Speaker C:Because we're just getting started being it's early June.
Speaker C:There's a lot of fun coming up ahead as far as living outside.
Speaker A:Yeah, we got a solid quarter of fun coming up.
Speaker A:And it's funny because I keep wanting to say a spring, you know, let's talk spring stuff.
Speaker A:And I just looked at my clock here, and it's June 1st.
Speaker A:I'm like, yeah, okay.
Speaker C:Right.
Speaker A:Never mind on the spring.
Speaker C:Spring, yeah, we're kind of into summer.
Speaker C:You know, graduation parties are happening now and kids are out of School.
Speaker C:And all of a sudden, for many people, it's summertime.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:I'll tell you, right before this, we talked about.
Speaker A:I brought up gardening and a lot of people, my mom's crazy into flowers and stuff like that, rose bushes, et cetera, which is its whole own ecosystem, biosphere, whatever you want to call it.
Speaker A:But I think an interesting angle to what we were just talking about with the grass applied to gardening.
Speaker A:Right?
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker A:And doing those same kind of testings and the fact that those guys send out prompts like, hey, you know, it's going to rain a bunch or you know, the climate notifications is super.
Speaker A:But applying that to gardening, which I think is going to become increasingly important based on the state of the nation.
Speaker A:Oh, yeah.
Speaker A:And people.
Speaker A:And people not wanting you to fish anymore.
Speaker A:We'd better get.
Speaker A:Better get good at growing your corn, brother.
Speaker A:That's what I'm saying.
Speaker C:So, man, I can't wait.
Speaker C:The commercials for this are going to be so good on with all the AI stuff that we're seeing down in LA with that mayor's race.
Speaker C:I can't wait to see what's going to happen with this.
Speaker C:It's going to be so awesome.
Speaker C:I mean, I'm.
Speaker C:I'm getting my popcorn out.
Speaker A:Speaking of corn, dude, I want to actually make some just because of the ideas in my head of how.
Speaker C:Right.
Speaker C:Well, here we go.
Speaker C:We can have some fun.
Speaker A:I'll call it silly how silly this is.
Speaker A:Anyway, now, I mean, obviously there's a lot of science already applied to gardening,.
Speaker C:But, well, there's so many things you can do too.
Speaker C:You don't.
Speaker A:For.
Speaker A:You would be awesome.
Speaker A:Right?
Speaker C:That's.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Next move.
Speaker C:Anyway, when you've got that bad soil in the garden and you're trying to figure it out, sometimes just taking a.
Speaker C:A soil sample down to your local extension agent to go out through them and send it into them and they'll do the test and go, hey, you need to knock this out for your, you know, for your garden, for your vegetables or, or whatever else.
Speaker C:And I think it's smart for anybody out there that, that has the time and the want.
Speaker C:There's nothing wrong with doing your old vegetables and stuff like that and growing all that stuff.
Speaker C:Why not?
Speaker C:You know, it's getting to be almost a little late to put some of that stuff in.
Speaker C:But I tell you what, starting it now and then dialing in next year is even.
Speaker C:Is even smarter.
Speaker C:And then, you know, where it came from.
Speaker C:That's the big part.
Speaker A:I much prefer it.
Speaker A:And I'll Tell you, as much as I brag and enjoy sweepable balconies versus having to cut grass, it's one thing I wish I had was a garden area for sure.
Speaker A:And.
Speaker A:And it's top of the list for when I do put a home on the coast.
Speaker A:Like, I wanna.
Speaker A:And I'm not a big gardener, but like you said, man, I don't.
Speaker A:Who knows what you're eating nowadays?
Speaker A:Like, everything's got plastic in it or some kind of chemicals or whatever else.
Speaker C:Who knows?
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Versus walking out and grabbing my own potatoes or my own.
Speaker A:Yeah, no, yeah, that's way better.
Speaker C:And it's interesting, too, you know, you think about that.
Speaker C:You.
Speaker C:You control what's in it.
Speaker C:And by the way, guys, just so you know out there, if you're creating your own garden, here's another just quick tip for you.
Speaker C:If you have railroad ties around your garden, your garden beds don't eat anything out of that.
Speaker C:You don't need to have the creosote additive into your tomatoes or anything else.
Speaker A:Are you saying that that creosote is bad for you?
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:Not good.
Speaker C:But, you know, so many people don't know about that.
Speaker C:You know what?
Speaker C:If you have that, I would.
Speaker C:I would build it up out of.
Speaker C:Out of new material that's not creosote.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:And go through and build that up.
Speaker A:And then they have landscaping timber that's specifically for that.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:Don't.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:I mean.
Speaker A:Yeah, but I found these railroad ties for cheap.
Speaker A:You.
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker C:You know how it goes.
Speaker C:I would just build out a retaining wall block, and then you'll be fine.
Speaker C:You know.
Speaker C:Okay.
Speaker C:It's concrete.
Speaker C:Not gonna hurt nothing.
Speaker C:And then you'll replace all the dirt in there.
Speaker C:Get rid of that.
Speaker C:Get that going down the road.
Speaker C:Because even though you remove the ties, the creosote's still washing off into the soil.
Speaker C:So get that gone.
Speaker C:I remember what was going on in north Tacoma.
Speaker A:Man.
Speaker C:We had so many things up there with that.
Speaker A: first house I ever bought in: Speaker C:Yep.
Speaker A:And all the arsenic in the.
Speaker A:Everybody got, you know, 700 settlements or something like.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:By the way, we're doing cleaning, cleanup now and.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:But not only that, but how many years did that smelter pump out garbage.
Speaker C:That people playground schools.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:Dangerous stuff.
Speaker A:Arsenic polluted.
Speaker C:Well, they were digging up yards for years, you know, just pulling up the 12 inches of soil.
Speaker A:Yep.
Speaker A:Yep.
Speaker A:And 12 inches.
Speaker A:Station cleanup.
Speaker A:What's 12 inches do after it's been polluted for, I don't know, 70 years or whatever, however long it was, you.
Speaker C:Know, all they're doing is getting the topsoil away and the stuff underneath that we're not going to talk about.
Speaker A:That's my point, anyway.
Speaker C:Yeah, out of time, brother.
Speaker C:But it's such a good point, guys.
Speaker C:And just be careful out there.
Speaker C:You can have the best intentions, but if you don't have that set up right, it can be pretty dangerous and nobody wants that.
Speaker C:You just want to be healthy.
Speaker A:You've got AI use it, search what's dangerous, what's scary, what should I pay attention to?
Speaker A:I'm planning a garden.
Speaker A:I want to make my grass healthier.
Speaker A:Do the searches, man.
Speaker A:We're way beyond Google at this point.
Speaker A:Stick it in grox, stick it in Chat GPT.
Speaker A:It'll give you more information than you want, keep you safe and grow a pretty garden or, you know, whatever it is you're trying to do, you know, just.
Speaker A:Yeah, use the right nutrients, don't use the chemicals.
Speaker A:And that was the one point he made.
Speaker A:You know, they're using molasses, not formaldehyde.
Speaker C:Exactly, exactly.
Speaker C:All right, guys.
Speaker C:John, thanks for coming on again today.
Speaker C:I'm Eric Gene for John Dudley.
Speaker C:You'll be catching around the house.