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The same outcome in mind for them to grow and transform.
Speaker B:Right, right, right.
Speaker A:But I might get there different in different ways with each of them, because.
Coach Stu:You'Re not only refining their outcome, you're refining your method of coaching.
Coach Stu:You're constantly on the edge of growing.
Coach Stu:This kid's different than any kid I've ever coached before.
Coach Stu:I'm going to have to approach him a little bit differently.
Coach Stu:That's what makes you a good coach.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Well, thank you.
Speaker B:So beautiful.
Speaker B:These are such great analogies.
Rev:That's a taste of great.
Rev:This week's episode of the Wise Guys, a podcast that unleashes the unthinkable in culture, religion, business, and everyday life.
Rev:The guys expand their doing it a little better mantra by discussing a much greater perspective.
Rev:So it's time to step over the line, strap in and see if you are willing to let Mac, the Rev, and Coach stuff take you to a place of thinking differently.
Speaker B:Welcome to the Wise Guys, a podcast and a production tonight.
Speaker B:I got to tell you that, folks, okay, we're going through it, so hopefully you're.
Speaker B:This is going to sound good, but.
Speaker B:Hi.
Speaker B:This is a podcast where we unleash the unthinkable and step over the line to help us see things differently and raise the bar instead of lowering the standard.
Speaker B:The school of unlearning is now in session, everyone.
Speaker B:So here we are, Wise guys.
Speaker B:Welcome, Rev.
Coach Stu:I'm ready to go through it.
Speaker B:There it is.
Speaker A:Let's do it.
Speaker B:Let's do Coach Stu.
Speaker A:Coach Stu.
Speaker A:Hey, how you doing?
Speaker A:How you doing, Mac and Rev.
Speaker A:Good to see you guys at the round table.
Speaker B:That's right.
Speaker B:We're.
Speaker B:Yeah, we're Wise guys of the round.
Speaker A:I love that.
Speaker A:I love that.
Speaker A:Hey, let me say hello to all of you beautiful, exotic cocktails out there.
Speaker A:You know who you are?
Speaker A:You're listening.
Speaker B:You're beautiful.
Speaker A:And if you're brand new, welcome.
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker A:You didn't know you were an exotic cocktail, but you are.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Now you get to choose what kind of cocktail you are.
Speaker A:That's right.
Speaker A:You can pick it.
Speaker B:That's it.
Speaker A:Email us.
Coach Stu:You know what?
Coach Stu:We're going to know that you're more exotic than you've ever imagined yourself.
Coach Stu:Oh, that's.
Coach Stu:You're more tremendous than you've ever imagined.
Speaker B:You're going to put in an extra olive or an umbrella.
Speaker B:Oh, yeah, Something, right?
Speaker A:I like something twist.
Speaker A:Yeah, I like the twist part.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:You guys don't know what we're talking about yet, but we're going to get there, okay?
Speaker B:I promise.
Speaker B:We're going to have some fun with this.
Speaker A:Stick with us.
Speaker B:That's right.
Speaker B:Stick in here.
Speaker B:Okay, so here's the deal tonight.
Speaker B:This episode is entitled Greater Things, and we're going to expand our common, you know, ism that we talk about all the time about doing it a little bit better.
Speaker B:You know, we say that all the time, right, guys?
Speaker A:Yep.
Speaker B:And that's kind of a little bit of our mantra, but we're going to really kind of take it to a much greater perspective of our wise greatness.
Speaker B:And, you know, I'll just say it right up front.
Speaker B:It's innate.
Speaker B:But you may not believe that at the moment, but we're going to show you.
Speaker B:We're going to give you some examples.
Speaker B:So this is going to be fun, guys.
Speaker B:I'm looking forward to it.
Speaker B:Stu's already said hi to everybody, and I think I came up with the right words this week.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Last time.
Speaker B:Last week, we were talking about the church marquees.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:The church signs.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:And I really didn't have a name.
Speaker B:You know, it was like I was throwing it out there and just saying, here's what I think.
Speaker B:But I think I kind of like this.
Speaker B:I came up to it.
Speaker B:Words to the wise.
Speaker A:I like that.
Coach Stu:I'll take it.
Speaker B:What do you think?
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah, it's good.
Coach Stu:In my world, they'll say, that'll preach.
Speaker B:All right, so from now on, gang, when you.
Speaker B:When we get.
Speaker B:In the beginning of this podcast, we're going to have some words to the wise.
Speaker B:All right?
Speaker B:So here they are for this week.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker B:Oh, gosh.
Speaker B:These church marquees are something always.
Speaker B:So this guy obviously came from a church.
Speaker B:All right?
Speaker B:And here's what it said.
Speaker B:This too, shall pass.
Speaker B:It might pass like a kidney stone, but it's going to pass.
Speaker B:Now, for those of you out there who have ever had kidney stones.
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker B:One of you guys ever had them?
Speaker A:I was going to say that I never have, but I need to knock on wood because I don't want.
Speaker A:I don't want it.
Speaker A:I don't want it to come.
Speaker B:You know, my ex used to get them quite frequently, and they were painful.
Speaker B:Man.
Speaker B:Somebody described this experience, a kidney stone, like taking a basketball and putting it through a straw.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker B:So you can only imagine.
Speaker B:Okay, okay.
Coach Stu:I'm done.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:All right.
Speaker B:We're going home.
Speaker A:Well, here's the good thing about this phrase.
Speaker A:I'm going to tell you about the positive of it.
Speaker A:It's just temporary, and eventually it's going to end.
Speaker B:That's right.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:So What?
Speaker A:What?
Speaker A:You know, the.
Speaker A:This marquee.
Speaker A:They poked a little fun.
Speaker A:Right, Right.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Saying what the temporary is going to feel like.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker A:But yeah, it's just temporary and it's going to end.
Speaker A:It might not be pleasant.
Speaker A:You know, sometimes it.
Speaker A:You know, I guess when you're talking about this phrase, this too shall pass, it's never pleasant.
Speaker A:Like, is there ever a pleasant this too shall pass?
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:That you're saying anyway.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:You know what I mean?
Speaker A:So, yeah, I guess it's the level or the intensity of the unpleasantness.
Speaker B:True.
Speaker B:That's exactly.
Speaker B:I would say.
Speaker B:So.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:So there we are.
Speaker B:There's some wisdom.
Speaker B:There's words to the wise.
Coach Stu:Well, we get to.
Coach Stu:We get to vote on this.
Coach Stu:I'm telling you, I've been a move off my zero from last week.
Speaker B:I'm just going to say.
Speaker B:Okay, now it's time to vote.
Speaker A:Gentlemen, time to vote.
Coach Stu:All right, Rev, it is a solid three.
Speaker A:Wow.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Coach Stu:I'm all with this.
Speaker B:There it is, a rev.
Speaker B:Chalking up a three.
Speaker B:What do you say?
Speaker A:You remember, I don't go do the extremes, but I'm going to give it a 2.
Speaker A:I like this one because there's.
Speaker A:There's a nuance, I guess we'll call it.
Speaker A:There's differences.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker A:In this saying.
Speaker B:Yep.
Speaker A:I'm with it.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:I have to give it.
Speaker B:You know me, I'm the extreme guy.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:We talked about that last week.
Speaker B:So I'm going to go with the three as well.
Speaker B:And here's why that I love to see this kind of stuff as well on church signs that don't necessarily speak directly to theology or directly to the Bible or directly to something.
Speaker B:It's just life.
Speaker A:Life is happening.
Coach Stu:I like to say the spiritual path is not for the faint of heart.
Coach Stu:It takes work and it takes tenacity.
Coach Stu:And you're going to have to move through stuff.
Coach Stu:Don't come in.
Coach Stu:Wimps are not going to make it.
Coach Stu:You got to be strong.
Speaker B:Well, I think that's, you know.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Coach Stu:Gun show.
Speaker A:Started the gun show.
Speaker B:He's not wearing a sniggle.
Speaker B:Thunder and lightning.
Speaker B:Oh, guys, these guys are out of control already.
Speaker B:Yeah, we're stepping over the line.
Coach Stu:Those came with pain.
Speaker A:I'm willing to bet they did.
Speaker A:Oh, yeah, they did.
Speaker B:Well, you know, that's a good point.
Speaker B:And this kind of takes on a flavor.
Speaker B:Forget about the sign now, all right?
Speaker B:That if what we encourage, and that is spiritual growth as it intertwines with your life as the whole nine yards.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:As the rev Says, I hope you come to realize this.
Speaker B:It's going to be painful at times.
Speaker B:I mean, it has to be.
Speaker B:There's just.
Speaker B:There's no other way to work it, okay?
Speaker B:Stu couldn't lift the kind of weights he lifted this last weekend if there wasn't some pain involved.
Speaker A:That's the truth.
Speaker A:I can vouch for that.
Speaker B:It's just the way it works, gang.
Speaker B:So we're not going to try to sugarcoat it, but at the same time, we're not going to get down on the dumps over it.
Coach Stu:I've never met the woman who was giving birth to a baby.
Coach Stu:He said, this is so comfortable.
Coach Stu:I've never met.
Speaker B:It was for me, what's the problem?
Speaker B:Right?
Speaker B:Yeah, I know.
Speaker B:I better be careful with that.
Speaker B:All right, so here's what I want to kind of start out with a little bit of attitude for today, all right?
Speaker B:The guys don't know.
Speaker B:They don't know.
Speaker B:They.
Speaker B:I always kind of keep them in a little bit of a mystery.
Speaker B:But I want to set the stage for tonight and how we need to be thinking.
Speaker B:All right?
Speaker B:Attention.
Speaker B:Taking you detention.
Speaker B:All right, guys, we're going to the danger zone.
Speaker A:I know that one.
Speaker B:All right.
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker B:Yes, yes.
Speaker B:Top Gun.
Speaker A:Great one.
Speaker B:Absolutely.
Speaker B:So we got to get a little bit of mavericky.
Speaker B:We got to move out there a little bit tonight.
Speaker A:We got to be the literal maverick.
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker B:We got to be willing to buzz the towers a little bit here.
Speaker B:Okay?
Speaker B:Some.
Speaker B:Whatever it takes.
Speaker B:All right?
Speaker B:So we're going to talk greater things, guys, okay?
Speaker B:And I think as a foundation to this discussion, we're going to go to the Bible.
Speaker B:We're going to talk about a verse that a lot of times is confusing.
Speaker B:A lot of times you just.
Speaker B:Just gloss right on over it for a lot of different reasons.
Speaker B:A lot of times it's not really pressed into.
Speaker B:Because it's difficult to try to really put, I think, the proper.
Speaker B:Shall I call it, proper perspective on it.
Speaker B: But it comes out of John: Speaker B:Who.
Speaker B:All of John.
Speaker B:But certainly at the end, you know, Jesus has got his gang together and he's really kind of given him some final instructions.
Speaker B:And this is probably high Christology of all the gospels, if you will.
Speaker B:And so he makes this statement, and I'm not going to go into the before and the after and the context and all that, but what he does say is greater things than these.
Speaker B:And again, I'm paraphrasing, but I don't need to get exact greater things than these.
Speaker B:Will you do I mean, he's talking to them, right?
Speaker B:And so you go, wait a minute, like Jesus is telling us we're going to do greater things than he is.
Speaker B:How does that even work?
Speaker B:He's like God, right?
Speaker B:And most of the commentaries that I have read in the past and I just revisited again this week is preparing for this.
Speaker B:Most of them talk that those greater things that Jesus, and I've heard this before myself, these greater things that Jesus is talking about has to do with width.
Speaker B:And what I mean by that is the growth of the church.
Speaker B:So Jesus could only affect a certain number of people at the time he was on the earth.
Speaker B:I mean, he could only have a certain reach, if you want to call it that.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:But he envisioned that as the church spread and as the disciples went out.
Speaker B:Like, we hear the stories, and obviously they did that.
Speaker B:The width of the church, the numbers, the reach of the church would be greater than what they had been able to accomplish to that point.
Coach Stu:All right, That's a real surface.
Coach Stu:Look at it.
Coach Stu:There are those who have taken that, and that's exactly what their call is, to grow the church bigger, to have more people, to have my checkbox, I saved another life.
Coach Stu:Check, check, check.
Coach Stu:I don't think that's what Jesus was talking about.
Speaker B:Well, no.
Speaker B:And even if you talk about mission work, and we were talking about this in the pre show, I've got years and years of experience with all of that.
Speaker B:And again, it's about wits.
Speaker B:It's about width.
Speaker B:It's about wits.
Speaker A:Okay, how many lives are you touching?
Speaker B:That's right, exactly.
Speaker B:How many people are praying to prayer and how many people are going to heaven and how many people are accepting Jesus as Lord and Savior?
Speaker B:And you know, that whole thread.
Speaker B:All right, where we want to talk tonight about that being true, we're not saying it's not.
Speaker B:All right.
Speaker B:And there are certain physical things that are involved with greater.
Speaker B:We'll talk about some of those.
Speaker B:So, you know, when you think about doing greater things, certainly a lot of physical type things will come to mind.
Speaker B:But also, we don't want to ignore the metaphysical.
Speaker B:And I think there becomes where we really want to kind of steer this ship tonight, that we're going to acknowledge the physical, of course, and we're not saying they're bad, right?
Speaker B:I mean, no, but we don't want anybody stopping there.
Speaker B:All right?
Speaker B:We don't want anybody saying, well, that's the greater.
Speaker B:Because boy, oh boy, if you're going to do that, then you're finite.
Speaker B:Okay?
Coach Stu:You know, it's Both end the miracles on the outside.
Coach Stu:That's important to look at.
Speaker B:Right.
Coach Stu:But there must be a miracle on the inside to meet it, to parallel it.
Coach Stu:It's both.
Coach Stu:And it can't just be an external reality or we've missed the whole point of the Christ.
Speaker B:Right, right.
Coach Stu:Which is that which is above Jesus.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:And I think we're going to go into that a little bit more.
Speaker B:There's a.
Speaker B:Hang on to that point.
Speaker B:Make a note of it, gang, because this is super important to this discussion is a little bit of a paradigm shift.
Speaker B:If you, if you haven't hear before, say this, or if you, you know, even if you have, maybe you forgot.
Speaker B:But we're going to go there.
Speaker B:All right, but you know, we're going to acknowledge.
Speaker B:And we'll just kind of zip over this because this is the superficial part, but we want to make sure we talk about it, the physical, you know, and a lot of times, again, what people think Jesus was talking about was this pre form notion or knowledge, preformed knowledge of the future because he's God.
Speaker B:And so he KN that down the road, you know, there would be printing presses, there would be the Internet, there would be all this stuff that, you know, that we could go wider, go wider, go wider, you know, and that just so paints, I think, a picture that is.
Speaker B:I don't know if I want to say wrong, but I just think that's a very, very myopic view of what was really going on here.
Speaker B:And so we're just going to acknowledge it, but we're going to kind of put it to the side and go, but there's so much more going on.
Speaker B:What do we want to camp, what do we want to camp out there for?
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:Okay, so we're going to acknowledge, though, that there's some teachings that might have said that, you know, the greater things are the physical things that we can think of like a job or getting promotions or making more money or winning, you know, sports, you know, events, art and science.
Speaker B:I mean, you can create masterpieces and you can do also.
Speaker B:And we're not saying that any of that is bad.
Coach Stu:I mean, sure, I mean, it's good.
Coach Stu:We talked about this pre show.
Coach Stu:The fact that we can cure an unborn fetus, the heart can be operated on still in the womb is nothing short of a miracle.
Speaker B:Right.
Coach Stu:The things that modern medicine has done is they're miraculous.
Coach Stu:Let's not discount them.
Coach Stu:They are as great, if not greater than the miracles of Jesus time.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker A:I was so glad you made that point.
Speaker A:Earlier.
Speaker A:Because when you look at this Bible verse, Jesus is saying that you are going to be doing greater things than he did.
Speaker A:Right, Right.
Speaker A:So it's not like sacrilegious for us to say this.
Speaker A:You know what I mean?
Speaker A:It's like he said it.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:He said, look, this is what's going to happen.
Speaker A:But when you think about when the rev said that, I was like, wow.
Speaker A:Think about all the things that we've been able to do that just because of the day and age and the time Jesus just couldn't do.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker A:You know, the surgeries, the science.
Speaker B:The science, the understanding.
Speaker A:We've been on the moon.
Speaker A:I mean.
Speaker B:Good point.
Speaker A:There's.
Speaker A:There's a lot of that are more than what, greater than he did at that point in time.
Coach Stu:Did he know the specifics?
Coach Stu:I don't think he cared about the specific.
Coach Stu:He says, more God is going to be revealed here through all of you.
Coach Stu:There's more of this infinite, powerful, amazing universe than you can even imagine.
Coach Stu:And I see it.
Coach Stu:I don't know exactly what shape it's going to take, but be open, stay open, and don't close down.
Speaker A:So in the way this manifests for me is through the Holy Spirit.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:Because that's what empowers me to do these greater things.
Speaker A:I'll just talk for myself for the moment.
Speaker A:The moment.
Speaker A:And advance God's kingdom.
Speaker A:It all comes through that.
Speaker A:I mean, we were talking about me lifting in this powerlifting competition, and you were asking, well, what are you thinking about when you're in the middle of your lift?
Speaker A:And I shared with you that when I set my world record in the bench press, I didn't plan this, but what came to me was my mom, who's passed away recently.
Speaker A:Like, she had literally passed away like a few weeks before.
Speaker A:That was.
Speaker B:Right?
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:So it was in the middle of my lift pushing, and I heard.
Speaker A:It just came to me, Mom.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:So I literally said it out loud.
Speaker A:I don't know if anybody around me heard it when I was lifting, but I was like, mom, I mean, I just.
Speaker A:And it's almost like it gave me strength and power to.
Speaker A:To push through and get that lift.
Speaker A:So that, you know, that to me, that's like spirit driven.
Speaker A:That's.
Speaker A:I mean, you know, I was doing something greater than I ever could have imagined, you know, and setting that record.
Coach Stu:Could it be that your mom, at that point when she transcended all earthly realities, was born into the Holy Spirit?
Coach Stu:She was now a part of that Holy Spirit of life, of love, of Strength of wisdom and power, whatever else you needed.
Coach Stu:And so that was the appropriate name to call out at that moment.
Speaker A:Moment Rev, let me tell you, she, she lifted that way for me.
Speaker A:She said, oh, honey, let me get that for you.
Speaker A:She just picked it right up here, I'll take care of that.
Speaker B:She said, oh, mom, she says, she says, johnny, Johnny, Johnny, I got this.
Speaker A:Let me take care of it.
Speaker B:I was like, all right, yeah, his mom, something else.
Speaker B:Okay, but now, see, now Stu's talking about the metaphysical.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker A:Yeah, I kind of jumped ahead and.
Speaker B:This is what you do.
Speaker B:This is where we're going.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker B:It's okay.
Speaker B:All right.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:You got to understand something about these guys.
Speaker B:They're w.
Speaker B:Wise guys.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker B:So, you know, anything's possible.
Speaker B:So here we are.
Speaker B:So we're at.
Speaker B:So we're acknowledging the physical, but physical is finite.
Speaker B:You are only so strong in your own physical.
Speaker B:You only are capable in your own physicality of certain things.
Speaker B:And it's typically finite.
Speaker B:All right.
Speaker B:But if you add, as the Rev's already said, both, and now we marry the metaphysical with this.
Speaker B:Watch out, right?
Coach Stu:You got an emotional body, you've got a mental body and a spiritual body.
Coach Stu:And when that comes into partnership with the physical body, your physical reality is expanded and you can lift more, you can do more, you can achieve more, but you have to have the other three players.
Speaker B:Right, Right.
Speaker B:Well, we're going to acknowledge.
Speaker B:We talked about this in the pre party as well.
Speaker B:There's lots of ways you can approach getting greater.
Speaker B:You know, there's, there's all kinds of self help stuff out there.
Speaker B:And you know, and we're not dissing any of that.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:We're saying that if that's an avenue for you, then fantastic.
Speaker B:Okay.
Coach Stu:Feed your mind as you're taking care of your body.
Speaker B:Yeah, it's important.
Speaker B:Yeah, it's okay.
Speaker B:All right.
Speaker B:All we want to do is kind of give you a little bit different view.
Speaker B:We're going to make you think and see differently.
Speaker B:All right.
Speaker B:About this topic in addition to whatever it is you might have already done out there.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker B:So I'm not taking away from it at all.
Speaker B:So, you know, we're going to talk to metaphysical and I think the one thing Stu's experience with his mom and with lifting speaks right to this.
Speaker B:We're talking about what we're going to coin and we've talked about and lots.
Speaker B:This is out there.
Speaker B:It's not like we made this up.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker B:But we're going to talk about the metaphysical from a Christ Consciousness standpoint, right.
Speaker B:That if we're going to start to get metaphysical and we're going to start to bring to bear the stuff that's passed beyond physical, it really starts and really is grounded in the Christ consciousness that we want to build, that everybody has that it's innately divine.
Speaker B:And every single.
Speaker B:It was innately and divine in Jesus.
Speaker B:And Rev loves and he's right.
Speaker B:And we talk about this all the time, that there was Jesus of Nazareth, right.
Speaker B:He grew up, he's a guy, you know, did his thing, he was a rabbi, the whole nine yards.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:We hear the stories.
Speaker B:But then there was also what we call the Christ consciousness part of Jesus, which is separate and apart from the human being, man, Jesus.
Speaker B:Right?
Speaker B:Rev.
Coach Stu:Yeah.
Coach Stu:And let me just say for the record, before we may get into dangerous territory here, is that he was more aware of that presence and that Christ essence and light and love than anybody who walked the faith of the planet.
Speaker B:Right?
Speaker A:Right.
Coach Stu:And he, he wanted to awaken it in everybody else.
Speaker B:Amen.
Speaker A:So what I love about this is he showed us how to do it.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker A:That was.
Speaker A:And, and you know, Christ.
Speaker A:Christ consciousness might sound like some big metaphysical phrase that like that some people may not even get it.
Speaker A:So let me, let me do what I do for me.
Speaker A:Let me simplify it a little bit, right?
Speaker A:This is, this helps me, this helps me out.
Coach Stu:Calling your mom to understand.
Speaker A:I'm going to call my mom.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:So it really is a way for me to connect with God, connect with the higher power, with the Creator.
Speaker A:I mean, and Jesus showed us how to do that.
Speaker A:That's what that, that's what that is.
Speaker A:So now that I see how to do it, I just need the trust.
Speaker A:And we talked a lot about this in our pre show about trusting where you are is the right place, the right time.
Speaker A:You got the right things, you're prepared, you're ready, you're hearing the right things, you're getting the right messages.
Speaker A:Intuition, I know, was one of the words under our metaphysical category.
Speaker A:And really training yourself, because I am the coach, I got to talk about training, training yourself to pay attention to the intuition, to this tap on the shoulder and trusting.
Speaker A:All of it I talked about when I got there to lift, I was using muscle memory.
Speaker A:I train for this.
Speaker A:So I'm just going to go and do it now.
Speaker A:I don't have to think about it.
Speaker A:I'm just doing it right.
Speaker A:You know, it's the same thing in life.
Speaker A:Like there's no, there's no difference if you're if you're practicing and training and you just go out there and.
Speaker A:And just live your life and trust what's going on around you and act as if.
Speaker A:Look, this.
Speaker A:This is all supposed to happen the way it's happening, even if it doesn't seem that way, right, Rev.
Speaker A:Like, it may not seem like this is the way it's supposed to go, but it is.
Speaker A:Right?
Coach Stu:Here's the good news.
Coach Stu:It doesn't matter what's happening on the outside.
Coach Stu:You cannot and will not ever be separate from that Christ consciousness, from that God Spirit, from that Holy Spirit.
Coach Stu:Doesn't matter what you call it.
Coach Stu:We may think we're far from it, but it doesn't matter how bad or good it is on the outside.
Coach Stu:It's as close as your breath, as your heartbeat.
Coach Stu:And if we're not experiencing it, we're the ones that have moved and forgotten.
Coach Stu:It's just a matter of a second to wake up, to drop down to a Christ consciousness that I cannot be separate from that which I am.
Coach Stu:I was created in and after the likeness of that Christ, essence of that God, essence of that Holy Spirit.
Coach Stu:I'm not this physical reality.
Coach Stu:But we have to remember that no matter how dark it's gotten.
Speaker A:Yeah, it's good reminder.
Speaker B:Well, for sure.
Speaker B:I think this in the Bible somewhere.
Speaker A:It's all over.
Speaker B:Very true.
Speaker B:All right.
Speaker B:So, you know, we're going to come from a place.
Speaker B:Maybe we call it a direct life force.
Speaker B:I mean, it's that spirit.
Speaker B:It's that thing where we want to tap, we want to sink into.
Speaker B:We want it to animate and direct us.
Speaker B:I mean, it's.
Speaker B:There's all kinds of biblical as well as metaphysical terms that come, you know, into this.
Speaker B:But it's.
Speaker B:I think the best word I love to use when it comes to all of it is power.
Speaker B:I mean, it's a power.
Speaker B:The hope.
Speaker B:To me, the Spirit of God is the most powerful force in the universe.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker B:I can't.
Speaker B:I can't fathom anything greater than that great thing, greater things.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker B:So the more we tap into it in our own eight innately, like the Rev was saying.
Speaker B:Watch out.
Speaker B:Strap.
Coach Stu:Well, let me put it a little differently.
Coach Stu:It's not tapping into it, it's expressing it.
Speaker B:Okay.
Coach Stu:As.
Speaker B:Let it come.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Let.
Speaker B:Just letting it, you know, kind of letting it out.
Speaker B:Whatever.
Coach Stu:It's not forced.
Coach Stu:It's not.
Coach Stu:It's an allowing place.
Coach Stu:It's surrendering to that which has always been true since the beginning of time.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Coach Stu:And is already true.
Speaker A:The point of me and here's what's amazing about that.
Speaker A:Since we are all exotic cocktails.
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker A:You will express it differently Rev than Mac expresses it.
Speaker A:Then I express it.
Speaker A:Then you out there, Rogers, express it.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:So you embrace your expression.
Speaker A:It's a beautiful thing.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Coach Stu:You know, you did it through lifting.
Coach Stu:I've had moments I shared earlier with you guys where I was sitting at the panel and I was singing a song, and I was not there.
Coach Stu:My personality was gone.
Coach Stu:Richard, the person, the musician wasn't there.
Coach Stu:And people said it was the most incredible performance.
Coach Stu:I don't even know what happened because it was that holy spirit moving and stirring.
Coach Stu:I got out of the way.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Well, this is.
Speaker A:I love this.
Speaker B:And I can't believe that you haven't had.
Speaker B:Guys gang out there haven't had these kinds of experiences.
Speaker B:Maybe you didn't know what to call it.
Speaker B:Maybe you even diminished it because you didn't trust it.
Speaker B:As Stu has said.
Speaker B:You didn't, you know, let it direct it, you know, like Rev has been saying, you know, but you can.
Speaker B:You know, we talked about this a couple weeks ago.
Speaker B:If you just look in a mirror, just look here.
Speaker B:Okay?
Speaker B:Guess who.
Speaker B:Guess who gets to make the choices.
Speaker B:Okay, well, you know what I love.
Coach Stu:And I want every listener to get this.
Coach Stu:There is so much more to you than you've ever comprehended or even imagined.
Coach Stu:And that's not just a pretty theory for me.
Coach Stu:I've had people call it out of me.
Coach Stu:Jesus called it out of me.
Coach Stu:But I've had friends that say, you're playing small.
Coach Stu:There's so much more for you to get.
Coach Stu:And that brought me courage and strength to get in touch with something.
Coach Stu:And I've done things in my life I didn't think were possible 10 years ago.
Speaker B:Right.
Coach Stu:20 years ago.
Coach Stu:And that's the kind of environment we want to create here with the wise guys, is we see you, we feel you, we know you, we claim you.
Coach Stu:And now join us on the journey of more of you.
Speaker B:Well, okay, I'm dropping a mic here, I think, right now.
Coach Stu:Sorry.
Coach Stu:Got a little preachy there.
Speaker A:No, I love it.
Speaker B:I love it.
Speaker B:Okay, so we're going to stop this first half here.
Speaker B:We're going to take a break for a second.
Speaker B:Really great stuff, but I think we're going to come back in the second half.
Speaker B:We're going to kind of frame this with a little bit of an analogy that I think will be entertaining for you, but informing as well as transforming.
Speaker B:So hang with us.
Speaker B:We appreciate it to this point.
Speaker B:We'll be right back.
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Speaker B:All right, gang, welcome back to the Wise Guys podcast, where we are talking in this episode of about Greater Things.
Speaker B:And we really, in the first half, talked about some ways that we go about that, some physical ways that we can do some greater things.
Speaker B:And then when we marry it with the metaphysical, with that combination.
Speaker B:Oh, my goodness.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker B:I mean, they're really.
Speaker B:They're not even.
Speaker B:The sky's the limit.
Speaker B:The universe is like, There is no limit, I guess we can say, right?
Speaker B:I mean, let's just be real about it.
Speaker B:All right, so now what we're going to do in this, maybe the second half is I'm going to give you an analogy, and so we're going to talk about.
Speaker B:We're going to try to help you put some wheels on this thing, right?
Speaker B:So we're going to talk a little bit of an analogy.
Speaker B:And this might, again, be a little bit informative.
Speaker B:Probably will.
Speaker B:But at the end of the day, you know, we hope this can be transformative.
Speaker B:I mean, that's the name.
Coach Stu:It's always the hope.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:I mean, you know, again, use it however you want to use it.
Speaker B:Maybe you don't really resonate with my analogy, but give me a break and pick the nuggets out, okay?
Speaker B:Because these guys, we talked about it again in the pre show.
Speaker B:They got some great comments for this, and I really can't wait for you guys to hear what we were talking about.
Speaker B:All right, so how about this word the Bible talks about, this word called refining, right?
Speaker B:So that we need to be refined, that we come into this life thing, right?
Speaker B:And we have everything that we need, and it's all there.
Speaker B:And we have our divinity.
Speaker B:We have it all.
Speaker B:But a lot of times we got to get rid of some of this stuff.
Speaker B:We got to go through some fire, as the Bible would give the example of, to kind of burn away or pull away or chip away at our ego at some things that just get in the way of the beauty that's there, of the possibilities that are there.
Speaker B:Right?
Speaker B:So I want you to think about it this way, all right?
Speaker B:And this is you Know, hang in there with me, all right?
Speaker B:I want you to think about that.
Speaker B:You have a vast reservoir within you of crude oil.
Speaker B:All right, now, that's a little bit weird.
Speaker B:I get it, okay?
Speaker B:But if you understand the refining process when it comes to crude oil, all right, it comes out of the ground and it's crude oil, right.
Speaker B:And there's virtually nothing you can do with it.
Speaker B:I mean, I'm not saying nothing because I am not an expert in the field.
Speaker B:But there has to be a process involved that takes that crude.
Speaker B:That's why it's called that oil and runs through a refinery.
Coach Stu:So it needs a process or it's useless.
Speaker B:That's right.
Speaker B:There's going to be a process that you're going to take that raw crude stuff, maybe that's down in there.
Speaker B:It could be in the earth.
Speaker B:But we're going to use the analogy that it's in within you, right?
Speaker B:You got this thing in you.
Speaker B:You got this.
Speaker B:Maybe it's deep and it's dark.
Speaker B:Could be.
Speaker B:All right, and now we're going to refine it.
Speaker B:We're going to bring it to the surface and we're going to begin to refine it.
Speaker B:We're going to put it through a refinery.
Speaker B:I think everybody can probably, you know.
Coach Stu:And that's going to require some guts and courage, Vulnerability, humility.
Coach Stu:Let's just bring it up and take a look.
Speaker B:Here it is.
Coach Stu:Here it is.
Speaker B:Whoa.
Speaker B:Yeah, exactly.
Speaker B:You know, and you can get.
Speaker B:And get it all over you.
Speaker B:You can.
Speaker B:I mean, trying to get tar out of, you know, that crude oil and tar stuff out of your hair and all that is pretty tough.
Speaker B:And it's going to look kind of ugly, quite frankly.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:But the beauty is that if you take it and you run it through the refinery, then it gets used to its maximum capabilities, because now what happens is it gets split into parts.
Speaker B:And as that process is refined, as that crude oil is refined, you get usable products that come out of that refining process, or whether it's gasoline or whether it's kerosene or whether it motor oil for cars.
Speaker B:I mean, fuel.
Coach Stu:It's fuel of some kind.
Speaker B:That's right.
Speaker B:It's usable stuff for.
Speaker B:And in its refined form.
Speaker B:All right, and that's a beautiful thing, right?
Speaker B:I mean, there's a process and we can go through the very same things.
Speaker B:Right?
Speaker B:Now, here's a component to this, though, and then we'll kind of get into the.
Speaker B:Because I remember our conversation earlier, understand something about refining crude oil, and that's this not all crude oil is the same, just like we aren't all the same.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker B:All right.
Speaker A:We're exotic cocktails.
Coach Stu:I'm a lot more crude than the two of you guys.
Speaker B:What do you want us to disagree with that?
Speaker B:So.
Speaker B:So we all have our own flavor, our own mixture of crude oil.
Speaker B:All right?
Speaker B:And so therefore, because of that, a refinery only can refine certain flavors of crude.
Speaker B:Not.
Speaker B:You just don't take any old crude oil that comes out of the ground and you just ship it to the nearest refinery.
Speaker B:Memory.
Speaker B:It doesn't work that way.
Speaker B:So you have to be sure that whatever's coming out gets sent to the right place, I guess is where.
Coach Stu:So I guess what you're saying is that we are unique in our expression, but it's also our becoming, our refinement, Our process is unique, too.
Coach Stu:There is not only one way in order to refine myself.
Speaker B:Exactly.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker B:The way Stu is going to take his crew as it bubbles up, okay.
Speaker B:And what he's going to decide to do with it, to refine it.
Speaker B:All right?
Speaker B:And there's all kinds of, you know, we're going to use some more analogy or some practical applications.
Speaker B:We were talking about this, right?
Speaker B:You might be.
Speaker B:You might want to read some stuff, read some books.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker B:Read before.
Speaker A:I might do some weekend workshops.
Speaker B:Exactly.
Speaker A:I might go for a hike.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:You might meet some people.
Speaker B:You're at least, you know, getting in with some people that you hadn't before to listen to some new things to be exposed.
Speaker B:So go to a different church.
Speaker B:How about that, Rev?
Speaker A:Right?
Speaker B:So you've got to be unique in your approach and discerning enough to realize what is it at this moment in time that I can do, need to do, want to do in order for me to begin my refining or continue my refining process.
Coach Stu:So here's where I cross the line a little bit.
Coach Stu:So I do what I need to do.
Coach Stu:The phrase that's coming to mind is many paths.
Coach Stu:One God.
Coach Stu:God.
Coach Stu:Many paths to God.
Coach Stu:So what the coach reads and what Mac reads might be different than what I read.
Speaker B:Right.
Coach Stu:And it might be a different teacher, a different guru, a different prophet.
Coach Stu:You know, that kind of smacks up a little bit against.
Coach Stu:There's only one way.
Speaker B:Sure.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:Well, I think.
Speaker B:I think we're trying to dispel that here.
Speaker B:Right?
Speaker B:We're trying to dispel the fact that.
Speaker B:Okay, I've decided that I do want to refine.
Speaker B:I do want to get better.
Speaker B:This is the.
Speaker B:No.
Speaker B:Right.
Coach Stu:Maybe let's be clear.
Coach Stu:Jesus didn't Say that greater things than I have done.
Coach Stu:Will you do, but you have to do it my way.
Coach Stu:He didn't say that.
Speaker B:Hey, that's a good point.
Speaker A:And think about how he interacted with the apostles.
Speaker A:Yeah, right.
Speaker A:They all were different.
Speaker B:True, true.
Speaker A:And so he had to interact with each of them differently.
Speaker B:Correct?
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:He treated Simon Peter differently than Judas or some of the others.
Speaker B:Just watch the chosen.
Speaker A:Right, Matthew?
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Going to put a little plugin for the chosen, if you haven't already.
Speaker A:Oh, my gosh.
Speaker A:I love it.
Speaker A:The different personality types in there, but it's.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:So it's the same thing like in any sport with any, Any coach.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:I can't just treat my whole team exactly the same way.
Speaker A:They're all individual people.
Speaker A:I've got to refine them in my sport using the same, with the same outcome in mind for them to grow and transform.
Speaker B:Right, right, right.
Speaker A:But I might get there different in different ways with each of them, because.
Coach Stu:You'Re not only refining their outcome, you're refining your method of coaching.
Coach Stu:You're constantly on the edge of growing.
Coach Stu:This kid's different than any kid I've ever coached before.
Coach Stu:I'm going to have to approach him a little bit differently.
Coach Stu:That's what makes you a good coach.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Well, thank you.
Speaker B:So beautiful.
Speaker B:These are such great analogies.
Speaker B:And so as we were talking about this earlier, I come up with this analogy and we were working our way through it and we were chatting about it, and then, then the idea came up that I wanted to make sure we understood, and I didn't really quite know how to articulate it, but that it's not one and done.
Speaker B:All right.
Speaker B:In other words, you know, okay, we pulled this crude out of our deep, dark part or even out of the, you know, the basin there in the middle Midwest, and we make a gallon of gas or we make a this or we make this or whatever it might be, and we're not.
Speaker B:Okay, now for that gallon that came out, we're done.
Speaker B:All right.
Speaker B:It's gone into its pieces and its parts and it's on down the road.
Speaker B:But isn't there more crude still to.
Speaker A:Be pumped out, to be refined?
Speaker A:Yes, yes.
Speaker B:So now we just lather, rinse, repeat for the most part.
Speaker B:All right.
Speaker B:Only the difference there is.
Speaker B:You're still pulling the garbage out of there.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:You're still pumping out the crude.
Speaker B:But now you've already been through a refining process to get you to wherever it is you are at that point.
Speaker B:Now we're refining sort of on Top of the refining, Right.
Speaker B:I mean, it's a constantly, hopefully upward process that we are now refining, growing our Christ consciousness.
Coach Stu:And I think that the key word you said here is constant.
Coach Stu:Yeah, it's constantly, unceasingly.
Coach Stu:I'm in the process of refining myself, my spirit, whatever it is I'm doing.
Coach Stu:It's the people.
Coach Stu:I got a gallon of gas.
Coach Stu:I'm done.
Coach Stu:I'm complete.
Coach Stu:Then I start again.
Coach Stu:And what we created with that is spiritual junkies looking for the next high.
Coach Stu:I want the high.
Coach Stu:I got a gallon of gas.
Coach Stu:I got in my car.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Coach Stu:I'm cruising down the road.
Coach Stu:I'm feeling lost again.
Coach Stu:Oh, let me do the process.
Coach Stu:And I'm starting from ground zero.
Coach Stu:You can't start from ground zero every time you want a spiritual hit.
Coach Stu:You've got to be in the process of living refinement as a constant state of consciousness.
Speaker B:I love this junkie.
Speaker A:I need my spiritual gummies.
Speaker A:Where are they?
Coach Stu:If you find them, let me know.
Coach Stu:My church will probably grow.
Speaker B:Oh, yeah.
Coach Stu:It'll be wider.
Speaker B:That could work either way, I think.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker A:But you're right.
Speaker A:Like, to me, when I think about this, what that crude that's coming up is different each time because it continues to get refined and you're growing and you're transforming, and you, you, you are different, Right?
Speaker A:You're different.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker A:So that's going to be different.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:And, well, my analogy, too, okay, is this is kind of a work in progress, even right now as we're talking.
Speaker A:Right?
Speaker B:So think about it.
Speaker B:We just drilled, right?
Speaker B:We just put it down.
Speaker B:We just hit the pocket.
Speaker B:And what crude oil are we pulling out that stuff on the top?
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:All right.
Speaker B:Because that's the easiest.
Speaker B:That's the closest and everything else.
Speaker B:All right.
Speaker B:I mean, it's natural, but as time goes on, that thing, you know, starts to empty.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:And what probably is going to happen with you if you're committed to this process of over and over and over and the refining, you're going to start to get to the bottom down there, and you might get down there into some really deep crude.
Coach Stu:Man, I didn't know this existed inside me.
Speaker B:That's right.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker B:Some stuff can come pumping out of there that you might not have any idea of.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:But good for you.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker B:Yeah, I mean, I'd get excited about that.
Speaker B:Personally.
Coach Stu:I'm singing an Oak Ridge Boys song in my head.
Coach Stu:You got to dig a little deeper in the well, boys.
Coach Stu:Dig a little deeper in the well if you want a good and cool Drink of water.
Coach Stu:You gotta dig a little deeper in the whale.
Speaker A:There we go.
Coach Stu:That's the cleanest water.
Coach Stu:The purest oil is in the deepest place.
Speaker B:What do I do with that, Rev?
Speaker B:I'm not sure.
Coach Stu:Okay, you can edit it out if you like.
Speaker B:No, no, no, no.
Speaker B:We're keeping that in.
Speaker A:Yeah, for sure.
Speaker A:We need some more of that.
Speaker B:So, you know, but.
Speaker B:But the point is it's.
Speaker B:Oh, gosh, it's going to be like passing a basketball through a straw, maybe.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker B:I mean, you know, it could be one of those kidney stones.
Speaker B:All right, so you.
Speaker B:If you aren't.
Speaker B:How should we say this?
Speaker B:We talk about this all the time.
Speaker B:If you aren't willing to do the work ahead of time, whatever that looks like in the process, the deeper you go, the harder it's going to get.
Speaker B:Because you're not, like Rev was saying, it's just a one off, one and done, and you're kind of back to the same spot, but really you've already pumped out the stuff on top.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker B:And if you keep going deeper to that deeper stuff and you're just, you know, you're trying to process it the same old way at the same time, you're not going to be.
Speaker B:I mean, it just isn't, you know.
Coach Stu:It does get harder, but you.
Coach Stu:The more you do it, the more adept you are at the refinement process.
Coach Stu:You get better at it and so you're able to handle the harder.
Speaker A:That is such a good point.
Speaker B:Exactly.
Speaker A:I love that point.
Speaker B:I mean, you know, again, think about Coach 2 here when he lifts weights.
Speaker B:You don't start out where he's at now.
Speaker B:I mean, it is.
Speaker B:There's no way, okay?
Speaker B:We all have to work up and then, you know, process, refine.
Speaker B:Refine your talent, refine your mental retarding your spiritual.
Speaker B:I mean, this.
Speaker B:We don't want to.
Speaker B:We don't want to isolate the refining to just one thing or another.
Speaker B:I mean, you're a complete whole, you know, thing, whether it's spiritual, mental, physical, and all of it gets refined in its own way.
Speaker A:So check.
Speaker A:Check this out.
Speaker A:You ready?
Speaker A:Okay, I'm about to flip this whole thing upside down.
Speaker A:You guys ready for this?
Speaker A:So when you're refining, there could be waste or byproducts.
Speaker A:This is true, right?
Speaker B:This is true.
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker A:And so to me, the way I see that in life is there's things that have been part of my life that maybe served me at one point, but now they no longer serve me.
Coach Stu:Amen.
Speaker A:So they go away.
Speaker A:And the Refining continues.
Speaker A:And this is how my.
Speaker A:Who I am becomes transformed.
Speaker A:And even I can live life better than I did before now.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:What do you think about that now?
Speaker B:See, this is wise guy wisdom.
Coach Stu:Exactly.
Coach Stu:It's like the Buddhist story that the guy that has to get across the river and he.
Coach Stu:He gets someone that gives him a boat, and he gets the boat, he gets across the river, and then he picks up the boat and starts walking with it.
Coach Stu:It's no longer needed anymore.
Coach Stu:It becomes a burden.
Coach Stu:It's an impediment to his journey.
Coach Stu:He has to put the boat down even if it was necessary to get across the river.
Speaker B:Yeah, well, and plus that somebody else might.
Speaker B:Could use a boat because they're in there.
Speaker B:They're.
Speaker B:They're.
Speaker B:They're that place that they need the boat.
Coach Stu:Whole nother podcast.
Speaker B:Oh, gosh.
Speaker B:Well, you know, this is.
Speaker B:I mean, all of this is so applicable and so poignant.
Speaker B:We hope.
Speaker B:I don't know, I want to say, I hope that you will take some notes, get some nuggets from it somewhere, because we transform.
Speaker B:Our conversation starts pre taping, and we learn so much from each other in the process.
Coach Stu:You know, I want to carry that idea before you sign off here because it's so important.
Coach Stu:The coaches.
Coach Stu:Refinement, Max.
Coach Stu:Refinement adds to my refinement.
Coach Stu:We're on this journey together, and so this is what we want to pass through these microphones as we are refining this podcast and our discourse and our conversation.
Coach Stu:It's about offering something for a hundred people, a thousand people, to refine their life lives, pay it forward, Put the boat down so that the next person can get across the river.
Speaker B:Speak.
Coach Stu:Readily about the good that you're finding in yourself.
Coach Stu:Oh, my gosh, there's this.
Coach Stu:Crude oil was transformed, and now something beautiful is happening, and I want to share it with the world.
Speaker B:Don't keep it to yourself.
Coach Stu:Give it away to somebody.
Speaker B:Right.
Coach Stu:I've got some fuel.
Coach Stu:You're out of fuel here.
Coach Stu:Let me share.
Coach Stu:I've got excess because I've been working on the process.
Speaker A:So let me.
Speaker A:Let me share one of my refining processes successes.
Speaker A:You ready for this?
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker B:Well, probably not, but one of my.
Speaker A:One of my refining processes is recording this podcast.
Speaker A:So I'm sure for other people, I mean, I know for me, I could also say listening to podcasts is in my refining.
Speaker B:Right, Right.
Speaker B:No, as well.
Speaker B:I totally.
Coach Stu:I was.
Coach Stu:I call it my therapy, but therapy.
Speaker A:Could be another one.
Speaker B:Yeah, we've got a couch upstairs.
Speaker B:As a matter of fact, we all get to lay on it, you know, in a moment, you know.
Speaker A:And then I decided I needed that as part of my therapy, as part of my refining process so much that I married a therapist.
Speaker A:So I'm.
Speaker A:You get the free stuff.
Speaker A:I get it every day.
Speaker B:Get the free stuff.
Speaker A:It's all good.
Speaker B:Well, before.
Speaker B:Before we put out the challenge, as we always do every week, I want to pick one point that Stu had talked about, about you got to get rid and Rev picked right up on it.
Speaker B:Where you have waste, you have stuff that really like the dross, you know, that comes from the refining of the gold.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:Here's the thing about it.
Speaker B:Be very careful.
Speaker B:Be very careful that you don't want to hang on to that.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker B:To think that as you're refining whatever that is, whether it's a way to think, whether it's some people, whether it's a lifestyle, whether it's a paradigm on the world, if you try to hang on to that as well as think you're going to be able to refine, you're going to get frustrated, you know, you really are.
Speaker B:And that, again, that's going to be tough in many cases.
Speaker B:But our best advice, because we've been through it in each in our own ways, you hang on to that old garbage, that stuff that's really not serving you the boat, like Rev was saying, it's not going to work.
Coach Stu:And sometimes it's not garbage.
Coach Stu:Sometimes it's really valuable to get you to where you are right now.
Coach Stu:And it could be a view of the Holy Spirit, a view of yourself, a view of God that is now limited and stopped, and you've cut out any more possibility of the Holy Spirit doing something else in your life.
Coach Stu:You got to put it down.
Coach Stu:Your definitions of life and of God have got to be set aside eventually so that more of the light can be revealed.
Speaker B:There it is.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:So good stuff tonight, guys.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Thank you.
Speaker A:Fantastic.
Speaker A:I keep thinking of more examples.
Speaker A:I'm gonna have to stop.
Speaker B:I mean, I know there's so much.
Coach Stu:I usually go home after this and I'm laying in bed going, oh, why didn't I say that?
Speaker B:But you know how it is, too.
Speaker B:We, we've got to challenge our gang just like we always do.
Speaker A:Let's do it right.
Speaker A:Here we go.
Speaker A:Sticking with the Tom Cruise.
Speaker B:So your ongoing mission, yeah.
Speaker B:Should you choose to accept it, is decide to go rogue, then find like minded rotors.
Speaker B:Of course.
Speaker B:Gotta have a team.
Speaker B:We got the wise guys.
Speaker B:Strap on the armor.
Speaker B:And you know, you do need Strength you do need to be able to withstand some of the stuff you're going to face.
Speaker B:All right?
Speaker B:You know, it's just going to be part of the deal, man.
Speaker B:And then once you're equipped and ready, you storm the gates.
Speaker B:And what do we talk about?
Speaker B:Storm?
Speaker B:What kind of gates?
Speaker A:The gates of unconventionality or conventionality?
Speaker A:Conventionality.
Speaker A:Sorry, I said it wrong.
Speaker A:Conventionality.
Speaker A:I'll get it.
Speaker A:I got to refine that.
Speaker A:Conventionality.
Speaker B:See, we're learning.
Speaker B:All right?
Speaker B:So, yeah, so stinking thinking, whatever you want to call it, all right, the same old, same old, right?
Speaker B:All that kind of stuff, we got to storm the gates of that.
Speaker B:And lastly, once you do that, once you've got some, you know, some receptivity, some stuff out of the way, you unleash the unthinkable and transform and refine.
Speaker A:Yep.
Speaker B:And do it better, greater things than.
Coach Stu:You'Ve ever done, you will do tomorrow.
Speaker B:Greater.
Coach Stu:And the next day.
Coach Stu:And the next day.
Speaker B:So take it.
Speaker B:Take it to heart, okay?
Speaker B:We hope again you've gotten something out of this.
Speaker B:Wise guys.
Speaker B:I appreciate both of you.
Speaker B:Love you both.
Speaker A:And love you, Mac and Rev.
Speaker A:This is all.
Speaker B:It's all good.
Speaker A:Greater things are happening.
Speaker B:That's right for us, too.
Speaker B:And we want you guys to know that.
Speaker B:I mean, for us, too.
Speaker B:We aspire to that.
Speaker B:All right?
Speaker B:We haven't arrived.
Speaker B:All right?
Speaker B:Nobody has.
Speaker B:So thanks for listening.
Coach Stu:I'll put my bicep up there at some point.
Speaker B:There it is.
Speaker B:That's right.
Coach Stu:I better go get in the gym.
Speaker B:I just don't want him lifting next to me if I'm going.
Coach Stu:You and I will get together.
Coach Stu:I'll get on the other and we'll lift as much as him.
Speaker A:There we go.
Speaker A:We'll have fun.
Speaker A:It'll be fun.
Speaker B:So anyway, thanks, gang.
Speaker B:Thanks for listening.
Speaker B:We appreciate it.
Speaker B:Tell everybody you know about us, interact with us, give us some comments, give us some feedback.
Speaker B:We certainly would appreciate that.
Speaker B:We'll interact with you and have a great week until next week where hopefully you will tune in again.
Speaker B:So good night, guys.
Speaker B:Thanks a bunch.
Speaker B:Take care.
Rev:Wow, you made it and can now unbuckle.
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