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On this week's Wellness Wednesday episode, Evan welcomes Bobby Hobert on to the podcast. Bobby is someone who truly walks the walk and talks the talk. One of Bobby's main focuses is maximizing productivity, and on his path to maximizing his productivity, he's found that physical, mental, and emotional health have been key. Evan and Bobby have in-depth conversations around how to improve mental, physical, and emotional health, and what profound changes they have seen in their own lives through focusing on these areas. In this episode Bobby and Evan cover topics such as:

• What role being alcohol free has played in Bobby's life
• What role community plays in mental and emotional health
• Why health matters if you want to be a top performer
• Top productivity hacks that are completely free
• Top 3 recommendations for anyone looking to grow personally and professionally
• The importance of meditation
• The power of learning

This episode was is packed with advice on how to be more productive and ulitmately live a life that you enjoy. This episode deserves your full attention and will help you to grow both as a business professional and as a human being. Remember to do everything with good intentions and connect to your elements.

Disclaimer:

This podcast is for educational purposes only, it is not a substitute for professional care by a doctor or other qualified medical professional. Evan Roberts is not a medical professional and this podcast is provided on the understanding that it does not constitute medical or other professional advice or services. Statements and views expressed on this show are not medical advice, this podcast, including Evan Roberts and any guests on the show, disclaims responsibility for any possible adverse effects from the use of information contained in this episode. If you think you have a medical problem please consult a medical professional.

what's going on, everybody.

Welcome back to the elemental Evan show.

Thank you all so much for tuning in once again on this beautiful wellness

Wednesday, those are the days that I release all of these episodes.

It's always on Wednesdays.

And today's episode is really awesome because it is a another interview.

I've been super blessed with incredible guests here these last few weeks.

And today's guests is really no exception.

Uh, to the incredible guests that I've been having on the show.

Today's guest is going to be Bobby Holbert.

He is.

In my opinion, someone who is a master of really.

Working his way.

Down to, you know, the exact minute and figuring out how he can be just super

intentional with every single moment of his day and, you know, really maximize

his potential and just really show up and give his all each and every single

day, which is really so important.

Um, I think we can really learn a lot from that because I, myself

am very guilty of wasting days.

Uh, in my opinion, at least not being, sorry, not wasting, but rather.

Not showing up and being as productive in a professional sense as possible, which,

uh, I know that there's this, um, this quote about where, you know, there's like,

Over 80,000 seconds in a day.

And someone says, Hey, if I gave you, you know, $80,000, uh, and I

told you, you had to spend all of that money today because tomorrow

you will not have any of that money.

Right.

What would you do?

You would spend every single last penny of that 80,000 whatever dollars it is, right?

Because it's going to disappear tomorrow.

Well,

You compare that to every single day in terms of the seconds of the day.

And obviously we waste a whole lot of our time, right?

So obviously trying to be very efficient is something we

all should really strive for.

And on that note, Bobby wanted me to introduce himself as simply a creator,

helping people to optimize their time.

And to allow or so that it will align with their priorities.

So that is what he wanted me to say.

And I agree with that statement, but I personally think he

is a lot more than that.

And I think he's really showing up and living what he's talking about, which to

me is, you know, really says so much when someone might have the knowledge, but

doesn't put it into practice themselves.

You really can feel that in the way they present themselves.

Their teachings and, uh, just really how they show up in their day-to-day life.

And you can definitely tell that Bobby is practicing what he's preaching.

And so it was a really huge honor to have him on the show.

Today, we talk about a ton of different topics.

He is an incredible entrepreneur.

And he talks about how he got to the place that he's at now, all of the, you know,

the struggles, the challenges that he went to to get to the role that he's in now.

We talk about why taking care of your physical, emotional, and spiritual

health is so important for showing up in your day-to-day life and

performing at your best level possible.

So, of course, you know, that's going to include.

Some meditation.

Uh, some exercise, you know, In improving your intelligence

through our, your knowledge basis, through reading and consuming.

You know, information based podcast, things like that.

And then we're also going to talk a bit about how he has gone over 200 days,

alcohol free, which is incredible.

I loved getting into that with him.

We also talked a little bit about ice baths and he brought up a great point.

That is ice baths are not accessible to everyone.

At least not in a, you know, a public setting where you might

have to pay for it where it can be literally 50 to a hundred dollars.

Uh, for one session, right?

Which is.

Very nice if you have the money, because there's an incredible

facilities out there, but if you don't have that, there are other methods.

And I really like the fact that we dove into that because there's

so many things in this world that.

You can do for free and will really improve your health, your

wellness, your ability to perform whatever it may be drastically.

And they're completely free.

Right?

I mean, we talk about meditation and physical exercise all the time.

Those are completely free.

You know, activities that you can do that will drastically improve how you

show up each and every single day.

So I thought that was very important for us to mention

that there are so many valuable.

Free things out there in this world.

That can add so much benefit to your life.

And so, um, I'm glad that we spoke about that a bit today, and that is something I

try to do on here as well is just provide all of you with some free information,

write something that you can apply to your day or sorry to your life today.

And hopefully it makes a really big improvement in it.

So.

In terms of being.

You know, able to do things that are free and can really benefit your life.

One of those things that you can do is go ahead and subscribe to this show.

And leave a comment on apple podcast.

If you're on there.

Sorry.

I had to throw the shameless plug in there, but truly everyone,

it really does mean a lot to me.

It is a free thing that you can do.

It only takes a bit of your time.

Uh, literally you can write a review in 30 seconds to a minute,

and it really means a lot to me.

It can help people to find the show and really just, uh, you know, spread

this information to all of your friends, family, and loved ones.

Uh, that would really mean the most to me.

If you care to support the show in a monetary manner, then of

course go look at the show notes and there are links in there.

You can go ahead and use any of the codes in there to get a percentage

off at any of the affiliated brands.

But other than that, I'm happy if you guys just enjoy this show

and subscribe and share it, that is truly the best gift to me.

And I would really appreciate that.

And the last thing is we are going to leave you with three recommendations

straight from Bobby, for anyone looking to improve and grow both

professionally and personally.

So trust me, there are some great talking points in this show.

I absolutely loved, loved chatting with him.

And I would love to have him back on the show and probably just hang

out with him one of these days, because he's a really great guy.

So everyone, I hope you enjoy the show as much as I enjoyed

having this conversation.

And I hope you really receive a ton of benefit from this episode and it improves

your life in some way, shape or form.

All right, everyone.

Enjoy the episode.

Peace.

everybody.

Welcome back to the Elemental Evan podcast.

Today we have on the very special guest Bobby Hobert.

Yeah.

Did I say the last name correctly?

Is that all right, baby?

You said it.

All right, perfect.

How you doing today?

I'm doing well, man.

Super excited to be here.

Appreciate you having me and, uh, looking forward to this conversation.

Absolutely.

We were just talking a little bit about how we ran into each other at Trader

Joe's and just the series of events that occurred to make that happen.

How crazy they were, and honestly how this podcast was meant to happen.

So, uh, really excited to get you on here, Bobby.

Yeah.

Trader Joe's should be cutting you a, uh, brand deal for

promoing them on this episode.

But the timing of us meeting, it was, yeah, it was pretty iconic, man.

It was really cool to meet you and.

Yeah, when you run up the podcast, it felt like a no-brainer.

So I, I'm really looking forward to this conversation today.

Yeah, absolutely.

And, and definitely thank you for joining today.

Um, to kick this show off and give our listeners a little bit of a better idea

who, of who you are, let's go ahead and, uh, run a few rapid fire questions here.

So, uh, first off, where were you born?

Chebe, Massachusetts.

Nice.

Massachusetts.

All right.

So coming over to the West Coast and obviously Yeah.

East Coast baby.

Uh, yeah.

Actually, what do you prefer?

Better, west or east?

Ooh.

I mean, there's pros and cons to both.

Uh, I'm happy that I grew up in the East coast, but I, I just,

the weather, weather out here, it's just a no no questions asked.

Like, it's February and I can be outside in a t-shirt that you

can't do that on the East Coast.

So I prefer the West coast, but I, I have a lot of love for East Coast.

Yeah, it's, uh, it's kind of a tough one.

The, the weather is incredible out here and I was just coming over from

France, uh, from travels over the holidays and it was freezing out there.

We were in this one place by the Alps and it was like 25 degrees every day.

So coming back to California was pretty, pretty nice, for sure.

Nice, warm and welcome . Yeah.

And then, uh, o obviously we kind of gave it away, but where are you living?

I live in Venice.

Yeah.

So I've been in, I've in LA for five years.

Popped around a couple times, but I've been in Venice for

the last two plus years now.

Yeah.

I love, uh, I love the west side of la I think it's best part of

LA in my opinion, but, uh, hundred percent no questions asked.

Yeah, for sure.

Uh, cool man.

And then, uh, two more questions here.

What is a favorite book of yours?

Favorite book of mine?

That's a good question.

Cause I think it depends on, like, there's so many.

, like depends on topic, depends on what I'm working on in my life.

But I think one book that has always stayed, uh, true close to my heart

is Essentialism by Greg McEwen.

And that book teaches you the importance of focusing your energy on less things,

which allows you to go deeper rather than going wide and only putting

a little bit of effort into a few things, or too many, too many things.

So I'd say Essentialism, uh, would be the book.

Mm.

I've never read that book before, but I'm gonna have to add it to the.

Really good book.

Really, really recommend it.

Awesome.

Yeah.

And honestly, uh, I love reading kind of any type of, you know,

quote unquote like self-help book.

So, uh, that's right up my alley.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Great book.

Cool.

And then, uh, last one is what is a favorite quote of yours?

Easy.

I use this quote every single time I get asked because it is something that.

I don't know.

I just, I, I feel like this quote anyone can resonate with, uh, and

it's said by Steve Jobs, you can't connect the dots looking forward.

You can only connect them looking backwards.

So what that means to me is, in the moment, I don't really know necessarily

how I'm gonna get to where I'm trying to.

trying to be, but I'll be able to understand it better when I get there

and I can look back and understand how all of these decisions led me there.

So, uh, shout out to Steve Jobs one time.

Hmm.

No, I like that a lot.

It's, uh, makes me think of a lot of people who are not

sure of what to do in life.

And sometimes I think people get held up in the moment and it's like

in that indecision kind of leads.

Uh, to be very stale or stagnant.

And it's like, look, even if you went a hundred miles in the wrong

direction, like you're gonna know, okay, this is the wrong direction.

And you probably gained so many scale, uh, skills along the way that now when

you look back, it's like, maybe that wasn't the right direction at the time,

but you know what, it's given you skill and uh, perspective to now move forward.

You know?

So I think that's the most important thing is, is being able to just move you.

Yeah, and I would say too, like the whole idea of going the wrong direction

is, for me, it's always this kind of gut check of like in the moment do I

feel like I'm doing the right thing?

And as long as that is true, then no matter what I, I was

going in the right direction.

Cuz then it led me to another position for me to make that

pivot and go somewhere else.

So it's so much easier.

You know, I can think back on moments in my life where I'm like, well,

why didn't I see it so clearly?

Or why didn't I understand and why did I do this rather than that?

Well, it's easy to make, to look back and have that perspective, but in

the moment, as long as I felt like I was making the right decision,

then no matter what happens, I trust that I'm, I'm, I am making that way

towards where I shouldn't want to.

Yeah.

Yeah.

And also a way I, I try to always look at stuff too, is like, there's

really no wrong answer, right?

And it's like whatever decision you make at the end of the day is the

decision that you were going to make in the grand scheme of things, right?

And so it's like, maybe in the moment it might feel conflicting or hard

to choose, but either way, whichever route you go, it's like gonna lead

you down a path and you're gonna grow from it and learn and and expand.

And that's the way you were meant to go.

It's a great, yeah.

That, that's a great way to view it.

Yeah.

Your perspective.

Awesome.

Well, that was a great quote.

I absolutely love hearing everyone's quotes.

Everyone brings something a little different and, uh, yeah, it's good to, uh,

reflect on those, but, Honestly, I wanna get into the line of work that you do.

Um, obviously if someone finds you on any of the socials, they can see

your videos and kind of what you're about, um, which is definitely growth

mindset, uh, improving yourself personally, professionally, and just.

, yeah.

Overall being essentially like a better, well-functioning human being.

Uh, but I would love to hear maybe a little bit of your story in

terms of how you got to this point.

Like what kind of led you down this path and have you always been someone

that's been interested in this, or is it something that through your path you

really came to find this kind of a career?

Yeah, I'd say I'd never imagined.

Getting to the place of where I am now.

And this all goes back to like the quote, like, you just don't, how

you don't understand how the daily decisions you're making today are

gonna take you somewhere and you won't know until that actually happens.

But I look at, when I graduated college in 2016, I was 22 at the time.

I'm 29 now.

And I look back at the last seven years and I, I think of

it in three different chapters.

So I'd say chapter one was, I graduate college, I went to a business school.

and I realized I don't wanna just get a job.

I don't want to climb the Corby ladder.

I want to create my own path, and I also wanna figure out what

the hell I'm passionate about.

Cause I had no idea what I was passionate about.

So I ended up starting my first podcast called Purpose in the Youth.

and that was focused on unfolding the stories of passionate people.

So I started interviewing young, passionate people in the hopes

that I would find my passion.

So while I was running that show, I was also driving Uber full-time

to fund it all, to pay my bills.

And so I did that for pretty much like three and a half years.

I did a year in Boston and then two and a half years out in LA

and uh, chapter two began when.

, I started to get burnt out driving, uh, excuse me, I got burnt out

driving Uber and running the podcast.

I wasn't able to monetize it really at all.

And one of the guests that I had on his name is Brandon Cohen.

He founded a company called Liquid iv, a water additive company.

And a year after interviewing him, he inter, he offered me a full-time

job to work for the company.

So chapter two was leaving Uber, leaving this podcast.

Taking this incredible job opportunity that was gonna gimme financial stability.

And over the next like three to six months, I started like itching

to get back in the podcast space.

So I ended up starting my own second, I started a second show, which

was really just a solo podcast.

Uh, me talking about the lessons that I was learning on how to reach my

highest potential wellness, wellbeing, meditation, uh, productivity hacks.

Right?

So that was chapter two.

I was now.

, you know, working at Liquid IV and I was also still creating content,

but it was more of like a side gig thing, um, in the sense I wasn't

like interviewing guests and whatnot.

And then chapter three, I would say started probably about a year ago when

I decided to put that show on pause.

It's the beard of man, I still work at Liquid IV full-time.

and I started going all in on TikTok, Instagram reels.

Started building out a coaching program, started building

out a ti a digital course.

So I went from this place in chapter two where I was like really trying

to learn everything to now being in a position where I'm not an expert, I

don't have all the answers, but I do feel like I have a lot of knowledge and

experience to share it back with people.

And so that's what I've done through TikTok, Instagram reels

throughout the program that I run is now helping people truly.

optimize their time to align with their priorities.

And when I say that, I'm talking every aspect of your life, your

dating life, your mental and physical health, uh, your career, your

community, building life experiences.

Like my goal is to help people wake up every day and be excited,

regardless if it's Monday, Friday, Saturday, or Sunday or Wednesday.

Like, I want to help people be stoked for their.

because every day they're working on different aspects of their life

and they're excited to do that.

So that's not a brief high level of how I got to where I'm at, but it has

been an emotional rollercoaster of not knowing where this was all taking

me, kind of just trusting my gut.

And fortunately, through, through the journey of it all,

it, it has worked itself out and there's still a lot more, uh, to.

. Yeah, yeah.

No, it's uh, it's great to hear that cuz I draw a lot of parallels

within myself and kind of your story.

So, uh, really, really neat to hear you say that and, and just to hear

kind of like your experience briefly, uh, going through those times.

Um, but yeah, it can be definitely an emotional roller coaster.

Uh, and it's also wild we're, uh, we're actually the same age, so that

was pretty cool to find out right now.

But, um, yeah, super interesting and I, and I love to hear all of that.

I think.

In, in kind of the line of work that I'm doing, which is obviously

like in health and wellness, uh, you know, one of the major things is.

Being able to perform at your highest level, right?

Like the whole goal is with health and wellness is like, it's not

just about eating the right foods and exercising and all that.

It's because you want to be able to live life and enjoy it.

You want to grow old in your years and be able to pick your grandkids up without

your back, like totally breaking on you.

You want to.

Catch yourself from that fall that might fracture your hip.

You want to, you know, just feel good as you go later into life.

And another major role of that, or part of that, is our mental health.

And, you know, making sure that you know everything with the mental,

the emotional, the spiritual, the physical, everything is taken care of.

And, and in alignment, right?

Because your physical health is one thing, but you know, if the emotional

and mental health is not there.

It's not good.

It's not good at all.

I think a lot of people have been there, you know, and, uh, I think

they also play, you know, they're very interconnected in so many ways.

And so working on one will help the other.

But, uh, I love that a major role of what you talk about is really focusing

on mentality and, uh, emotional wellbeing and, um, you know, really

getting after it, but like having purpose behind it, you know, and

being driven to go after your goals.

And, uh, I know one of the.

Really big things that I've uh, seen you talk about is going alcohol free and,

um, that's something that I'm not alcohol free completely, but probably about.

Mm, maybe like halfway through 2020, or maybe even earlier in 2020, uh,

sorry, 2022, both my partner and I decided that, uh, we were going

to pretty much just stop drinking.

Not completely a hundred percent, but we never buy alcohol for the house.

We only drink it at maybe a family gathering like,

um, Christmas or something.

If we'll have a glass of wine.

When we were traveling, drank more alcohol than I probably drank in the entire year.

Um, but I really like the fact, yeah,

Yeah.

I mean, being in France, you can't pass up on a glass of shade I wine.

You got it.

Um, you can actually, sorry, you can pass up on it, but I chose not to.

Um, and yeah, so I really am interested in what your reasoning for going

alcohol free is and, uh, kind of the outcomes you've been seeing

from taking that, uh, course of.

Yeah, man.

Uh, ooh, this is a good one.

I, I, I'm glad you brought this up cause I really haven't talked

about it on a podcast that much.

Um, but 2020, like everyone during the pandemic, I went through this process of

like, kind of re, I don't wanna say re like stepping back from my relationship

with alcohol, but like, I think everyone went through that first two, three months

where they're like, all right, you might as well just drink away our time alone.

And like, End up hitting a wall of not, this isn't fun,

I don't wanna do this anymore.

And I lived with two guys that pretty much were sober.

So I was like, I'm literally just drinking by myself.

This is stupid.

So since 2020 fall of 2020, I went on this like quest of like, kind of like dipping

my toes in with alcohol, then taking like two, three months off doing it again.

And finally June of last year, I was coming back from New York City.

and I was just like, yo, I'm done.

I, I need to take a break.

So it started as just once again, another little challenge.

Can I finish?

Can I go the whole month of July without alcohol?

Did that, let me see if I can do August.

Did that, let me see if I can do September.

Did that, and then just kind of slowly kept building.

And I'd say once I got till like the 90 day to the a hundred day mark, it

had become so out of my system that I forgot what it felt like to have a.

To itch for the drink to go out and, and, and have to drink to be social.

It kind of just eliminated for my life.

So since then it has, I have had no interest in drinking again.

There are so many amazing mocktail drinks out there and like I even

had Budweiser send me three 12 packs of their new Budweiser Zero.

Like there are alternatives and I think the biggest reason.

that I, I wanted to stop was, it wasn't like I was some alcoholic and

like just partying and I've done that.

I've had that life and it's fun and fast.

But I think once again, my whole mission is about optimizing time, right?

That is something that I do not take lightly.

I am so like to the minute, very like intentional about

everything that I do, and I was.

, I was just feeling like a good amount of time was being wasted.

Right?

So let's just use an example.

If I go out on a Friday night, I drink from 10:00 PM till 2:00 AM four hours.

Now my sleep is getting thrown off.

I'm not sleeping that great.

I'm waking up the next day, I'm hungover now.

I can't creatively do anything.

I don't wanna work out.

It bleeds into the rest of the day.

Maybe I do it all over again Saturday night.

Like I've done those bender weekends and they were a lot of.

. But once again, I just started recognizing and realizing all these

things that I wanted to do in my life.

There's only so much time in a week, and when you start to really optimize your

time, you wanna maximize every minute.

So I just got to this place where I was like, I just wanna stop drinking and see

how I feel and I felt, I feel fantastic.

, you know, choosing not to drink more money in my bank account.

My wellness and wellbeing is better.

My emotional mental health, 10 times better, my physical health better,

I'm working out seven days of the week because my body can actually function.

So, I mean, I can't, I can go on and on and on, but it, it has been, without

a doubt, one of the best decisions that I've made in the last year.

And it's really interesting too, because at the time of deciding to do.

, all these other things started to fall into, uh, fall into place.

Social media started to grow, started getting brand deals,

started my coaching program.

Like serendipitous.

The timing was, is very interesting now looking back on it, but it's

just been this unlock that I don't judge people for drinking.

I'm not here to promote that.

You don't need a drink or you shouldn't drink.

I'm here to just share my story, my experience, and like.

I really, really appreciate my time and there's a lot of shit I wanna do with

this life, and I just don't wanna waste any more time with it drinking a liquid.

Yeah, no, I, I, I really appreciate, uh, you sharing that because, It's kind of

hard to explain to some people who, um, you know, it's just actually, it's a lot

of people who really drinking is kind of just a part of their lifestyle, right?

It's, uh, what they do for winding down after work.

It's what they do for enjoyment on the weekends.

You know, it's how they let loose and, and, you know, enjoy that, that

moment of freedom that they have.

But I think it really is so crucial to high.

How much more you get in return when you let that go, you know?

And the.

Like you said, the the time alone is so beneficial because like you said,

a night of drinking is not just, you know, those four hours of drinking.

It's then the coming home and having terrible sleep and waking up feeling

terrible, and then having to, you know, freaking barely make your

way through the day with a massive headache and, you know, trying to

just spend the entire day essentially like recouping from the last night.

And so that to me, Was, has always been a large reason of like, why

I have always not really been a massive drinker, and especially

why I'm not really drinking now.

Um, and then the other one, and this is not, uh, a, a quote from me, but

this is from one of my buddies, uh, Jacob Soldan, and he always says that,

With alcohol, you are one moment away from having the worst night ever.

And uh, yeah, it's, it's, you know, and the opposite of

truth of that is true as well.

Like you can have some really enjoyable experiences with alcohol for sure.

But there is always that one, like, alls it takes is like one

wrong word, one wrong action, and it can be a nightmare, you know?

So, For me.

Yeah.

Just the reasons right there alone are enough.

And then also obviously going into the health aspect, which, um, I dive into on

other episodes and it's just, it's, it's a poison, you know, it's, it is literally

a poison, uh, that we're ingesting and yeah, it's, it doesn't need to be in your,

uh, in your daily or weekly consumption.

And, and without it, it might feel a little weird for a while, but

like you said, after a while you no longer craved it, you didn't

feel the need to consume it.

And I know it's a 21 day reset, I believe, for your taste buds

in general with most foods.

Um, now with habits it might be a little bit longer,

especially something like that.

But, uh, it does go to show like if you can set small goals and

accomplish it like you've done.

, you can really accomplish something massive, like after you take one step

after the next, you know, in one month.

One month.

Yeah.

I wanna add to, I know you brought up like the community thing where

like if your friends are drinking and like, it's like you're around

people so it's easier to drink.

Right?

I think one of the biggest realizations that I've had since stopping drinking is

who are my true friends or who is my true community because, . A lot of people that

might hear this, they can think about those friends that they only see when

they're partying and when they're out.

And uh, it was really funny.

A couple months ago I went to this, this party event and I hadn't been

in like nine months and the whole premise is surrounded by alcohol.

And it was so funny to go cause I hadn't been there in so long and I hadn't seen

99% of the people since I was at the last.

and the conversations were extremely surface level.

It was just like nothing had ever changed.

And once again, I wanted to be clear that like, I've lived that lifestyle, I've

done this shit, I've had my fun, right?

It doesn't mean I don't have fun anymore, but like I've, I've done it all.

I've stayed up till 5:00 AM praying, woke up, not remembered a damn thing.

Like I've done it all.

I just, that doesn't serve me anymore.

Um, . But just being back in that environment and I wasn't drinking but

just to be in it, it was reminding me of like, this is exactly what

I don't wanna be part of anymore.

And I will challenge people that think that it's hard to not drink

because you're around people.

That's all they wanna do is drink.

The biggest shift you'll have is when you start surrounding

yourself with people that don't let that be the biggest priority.

I know plenty of successful people that I'm surrounded by that do drink, and it's

fine, but they don't let that be like, all right, we're gonna go out, we're gonna

get a hammer, we're gonna take 10 shots.

Like, it's just, they're more mature about it.

They're in their back twenties or early thirties, so they, they've, they've

done enough that they don't need to like, have six beers at the pre.

. Um, but I will say that your, your, your reality will change based on the

people you surround yourself with and the, and the intentions of those people.

So I think about a month ago I was at Air One, which for those listening is

the Bougiest Grocery store of all time.

more bougie than Trader Joe's.

And, uh, I just remember I was, I ran into a couple people, everyone

was like talking about what they're doing in the next couple days.

And it was, it was like a pinch me moment because every single

person that I was talking to,

It was like, oh, tomorrow I'm gonna to the Sound bath meditation.

Oh, cool.

Cool.

Well, on Friday I'm going to this, this cold plunge, uh, event.

Oh, sweet, sweet.

What are you doing this weekend?

Oh, I'm meeting up with somebody to go for a hike club and I was like, wow.

It's finally happened.

Mm-hmm.

, the only thing I'm hearing about now are the things that I'm in

alignment with, which is wellness.

Wellbeing, outdoors, good people, good vibes.

So it was a really cool moment to see.

By me saying no to all these events and experiences that just weren't in alignment

with me anymore, created space for me to meet new people, which then opened up more

doors for conversations and opportunities that are more in alignment with me.

Yeah, I think that's such a beautiful explanation of how your, your thoughts and

actions can literally form your reality.

And, you know, like you were saying, it's when you're around those people,

uh, you know, that's kind of all you know, and that's kind of all you're

attracting because you're in that.

Cycle, you know, and once you step out of that cycle and cut off, you

know, to a degree or completely those ties, then you open, like you

said, a new door and new possibility.

And if you want to start enjoying other things in life, like naturally you're

gonna start finding people, you're gonna take action to go join a hiking

club or whatever, and you're naturally gonna, uh, kind of open those doors.

So that's really, really cool to hear.

It's like, uh, you know, like manifestation, but it like

truly happening, you know?

Yeah, totally.

Totally amazing.

And then, uh, in terms of taking care of your health and your mental wellbeing and

all of that, what have you seen in terms of productivity and, you know, what, what

have you seen that has really played a crucial role in, you know, through taking

care of your health, that it really played over into your professional life and, um,

you know, being able to just get after it?

Yeah, that's a great question.

I.

I was describing this to somebody the other day, where in my belief

our mental, physical, emotional, spiritual wellbeing is the foundation.

It is the foundation that we build our lives on.

So that cement floor, which is us, the emotional, mental, physical, spiritual.

to put anything above that to build on top of that, your career, your relationships,

your community, your friendships, your family, your life experiences, all that.

It all is built on you, and in order to maximize that, you need

to be operating at your best self.

Anyone listening can think about that day they woke up, they weren't

motivated, they weren't inspired, maybe.

tough conversation with somebody the day before, bled into the next day

and like they don't wanna do anything.

These are all tho those are examples of like emotional wellbeing.

Like I have my bad days, but I'm able to with time, with time

of inconsistency of doing this.

Like compartmentalize, like pause that emotion, focus on the task at hand.

So productivity, like if we're just talking that, I mean, I'm

fortunate that every day I wake up,

I remember those years where I had to like kind of create inspiration

out of thin air, or I had to find it to then get the work done every day.

I, I, I mean, it's crazy actually, I'm saying this out loud cause

now I'm thinking about it where I was even just a few years ago.

But I don't overthink.

I don't have analysis paralysis.

I just execute.

I just do.

And the only reason I can do that is.

. Every morning I wake up, I prioritize my mental health.

I meditate.

I prioritize my physical health.

I get in some type of sweat.

I also prioritize my physical health and mental health, and you could

probably say spiritual health.

By making sure I'm feeding myself good, solid, healthy breakfast.

I'm checking off all these boxes.

So when I finally sat down to.

I'm firing.

I'm present.

I'm excited.

I feel energized.

I slept great the night before.

So all these micro decisions on a day-to-day might not feel like they're

doing much, but through the consistency of prioritizing myself before anything

else in this world has then rippled into me being a better person,

like it is selfish, quote unquote.

To say, I'm going to prioritize myself before anything else.

If you ask me what are, what are my priorities, my number

one priority is myself.

Before my work, before my friendships, before my relationship, before

community building, life experience, all that, number one priority is myself.

Because if not, if I'm not at my best self, I'm not showing

up as the best version of me.

It is gonna ripple into everything else.

So I encourage people to find those practices, those habits, those routines.

That will make you feel your better self.

There's no right or wrong.

It's truly just a game of trial and error.

And once you find those things that make you feel good, stay consistent with

them and it's gonna completely change the way you show up each and every day.

That's why I'm, I post on social media like a lot.

This whole idea of you win the morning, you win the day.

Hmm.

And it's not, philosophy is not about what time do you wake up every morning?

It's more about how do you spend the first 1, 2, 3 hours of your.

. If you only have 30 minutes in the morning before, like you gotta

take care of the kids or like go to work, I'll take that 30 minutes.

But my challenge or question to you is how do you spend those 30 minutes?

Are you reading?

Are you meditating?

Are you journaling?

Or are you waking up and scrolling on social media within seconds?

You, in the morning, you win.

The day is.

, figuring out those, those habits, those routines, that making you feel your

best self, doing them first thing in the morning so that it creates momentum for

the day ahead, and so that you feel good.

If I saved all of my self-care, wellness, wellbeing, habits for the end of the

day, I wouldn't be able to show up to this podcast right now with the

energy, intent and excitement as I do now when I'm prioritizing that first

night because I, I'm sitting here.

All right.

I meditated.

I worked out, I've eaten good all day.

I've hydrated, like I've checked off a lot of my personal, personal habits

and routines that allow me to be the most present in this conversation.

Yeah, I really, I love that explanation you gave right now.

It's, uh, one thing I always think of too is, you know, the morning time is your

first opportunity to really show your, um, like how you're gonna show up in the day.

It's the first form.

Of self-discipline, right?

Like getting up in the morning, getting out of bed and getting after

something that's kind of difficult.

Like, uh, exercise or even meditation can be difficult some mornings, you know?

Um, I think when you start your day off in that, in that manner,

it is so much more difficult to.

Be down and ow and not productive as opposed to just naturally feeling

good and wanting to be productive and, and showing up as your best self.

And I know it's said like a million times, but you know, they always give the, um,

the example of the people on the airplane and it's like take, you know, you put the

mask on the kid first, and then you put it on yourself, not the other way around.

because you have to be, or sorry, you have to, you put it on yourself

before you put it on the kid.

And the reason for that is, is because you have to take care of

yourself before you can help others.

Right.

And I think that really is like such a great, uh, metaphor for, for life.

Yeah.

It, it's, it's you, you have to experience it yourself to then realize it.

And uh, to me that's been the unlock to making sure that every day I'm feeling

my best self, which then ripples to whatever my priorities are for that day.

. Yeah.

Yeah.

I like that.

Um, now also in terms of, uh, uh, hard things to do, I know that you

are pretty big on, uh, cold exposure.

Uh, do you, do you enjoy it?

Do you see any, um, kind of spill over into your professional

life from that as well?

Or, or what, what do you feel from the cold exposure?

Yeah, that, that's a new, that's really new to me.

Um, I didn't, I didn't, I just got a cold plunge back in January.

Took advantage of this Black Friday sale and it was an incredible decision.

I will say immediately, the first thing that comes to mind when we start

talking about cold exposure, cause it's the first time I'm gonna talk about

a podcast, is the only hesitation I have with cold therapy is it, you can

make them from scratch, but like, it is a, it is an expensive investment.

I see this as an investment, it's into my health and wellness and like I'm

trying to get brand deals from it.

Like it, it was a very business calculated decision, but, when I was 23, 24, I, I

was not affording something like this.

So like, it's, it's one of those things where like if you're hearing

this and you don't have access to one or you can't afford one, you're good.

Mm-hmm.

, you're not missing out, you're not gonna, like, there are benefits

but it is not like, it is not overnight life-changing stuff.

So please take everything I say with a grain of salt cuz you don't

need it to be successful or to become the best version of you.

Um, but having what has been incredible, I think the biggest.

. I wouldn't say I felt into my career or anything like that.

I think there's two benefits.

One is that ability to do something discomfort, uncomfortable every

single day is sharpening my mind.

So like when I walk outside at five 40 in the morning to go into this

plunge, thankfully living on the west coast, it doesn't drop into like

the teens, but like it'll be like 40 degrees out and it's, it is chilly,

40 degrees into 44 degree water.

It's a hell of a way to start the day.

So I think having those moments where I'm like, am I really about to do this?

And then doing it incredibly powerful for the mind.

And then two, I don't know the specifics so I don't wanna speak on them, but

Andrew Huberman, host of Huberman Lab podcast and did a recent podcast talking

about the benefits of doing a cold plunge before you actually go work out.

And I've been doing it, and I can say it's one of those things that I feel.

An overnight difference, but I do believe it is helping in some capacity.

So yeah, I've loved the cold exposure.

It's just, it's one of those things that I, I, I've never actually talked

about a podcast, made a couple pieces on social media about it, but it

kind of feels like this gated thing because it's expensive and if you

don't own it, even go do a session as like 80 to a hundred bucks an hour.

Like this is, this is no joke type of money.

And I, I don't want people to think.

, you need to do it in order to be successful in having them spend their last

dollars to get into one of these tanks.

But it definitely has been really beneficial.

. Yeah.

I, I really appreciate you highlighting that because you're right, it is

definitely a bit of a barrier for entry into the cold exposure world.

You know?

Um, I know obviously some gyms like will include like, um, the, I always

the cryotherapy with the, the gas, you know, but Yeah, absolutely, and I think

it's really important to mention that, you know, for one, It's usually there.

There's so many free, simple things that you can do to benefit your

health, your mindset, all that.

You know, the power of a routine, right?

Of waking up, meditating, doing an exercise and eating healthy, like.

Two of those things are absolutely free.

And then the third one, depending on the food you're

buying, obviously is gonna vary.

But like, you know, those are all very relatively inexpensive

and incredibly powerful tools.

Whereas with the ice bath, you know, it's, you don't have to go out and do that.

Of course, you're gonna feel great afterwards and it has a lot of

benefits, but, Not necessary to be at your best level, you know?

And, and on that note too, I like to mention that, you know, finishing

your shower, your hot shower with just turning off the hot water and leaving

the cold tap on will still give similar experience, um, similar results even

though it's not as cold as a cold bath or.

Ice ice bath or cold plunge.

Um, but you really wanna focus on getting it on your head, your face and your chest.

Those are the main areas that you want to get the cold exposure on that have

the major effects and where you're gonna get the most benefit from.

And, you know, that's, it's free to do that.

Right.

And really what was really interesting to me is people who don't have access to hot.

As opposed to someone who does have access to hot water, the person

without hot water will actually receive much less of a dopamine hit.

And I believe also the neuro epinephrine hit as opposed to

someone who has the option to have hot water but chooses to go cold.

Because it's that choice mentally of doing something difficult when

you don't have to, but you do it anyways and then you're getting that

dopamine hit because it's responding and saying, Hey, congratulations,

you just did this difficult thing.

even when you didn't have to.

Um, so for those of you who have the ability to have hot water and

cold water, just 30 seconds of cold water can be very beneficial too.

I'm, I'm so happy you mentioned that because I don't know how, I just like

completely forgot to like even speak on that, but me making the decision to buy

the cold pond started from me making the decision to take cold showers.

And I'll even challenge you cuz I don't know if, if you're

speaking from your experie.

I think starting with hot, taking the shower, working way, your way to cold.

Great, great starting place.

But I got to apl.

I got, I've gotten to a place even before I bought the plunge, when I would wait,

when I would take a shower after, I'd work out cold immediately the whole time, and

it, it was exactly that decision to put myself in the uncomfort was incredible.

Also, the endorphins were even higher.

and now I'm in a place where I'll plunge before I go to a workout and I come back

and I shower after I, after I workout.

And people listening would think or assume probably, oh, you just take a hot

shower now Cause you already did the cold.

No, I still take a cold shower.

I honestly, if I, if I had to sit down and, and map out the last

a hundred days, I've probably taken, if I've taken a shower.

once in those a hundred days, I'd say 98 of them were cold every single time.

Wow.

The only times I'll do warm is if I'm taking a second shower, which usually

means I did like a workout at night too, and that's a good way to like

slow your mind down with the hot or there was like an a, whatever reason,

maybe I just took a hot shower because I didn't wanna deal with the cold.

But I try to force myself to consistently stick in the cold in it.

It's been good for sharpening the mental fort.

Love it.

Yeah, no, that's, that's perfect.

And, and yeah, it's a good way to show too, it's like, you know, there's,

there's always other options, you know, more economic and, and all of that.

Uh, for those of you who are, for those of us who can't afford it, right?

Uh, I couldn't go to, uh, sauna and.

Ice bath session every single day if I wanted to, you know, so, um,

definitely good to highlight that.

And yeah, I'm gonna, as of right now, I finish my showers cold and

I do about, yeah, about 30 to 40 seconds of cold exposure there.

I used to do a lot of cold ba uh, cold showers, like a complete cold

shower, and that kind of fell off, um, ever since I went traveling.

And so I think I'm easing back into it, but I work my way.

Sense.

You're traveling.

You're, you were feeling good.

I get it, man.

I get it.

But I'll challenge you, Evan.

Tomorrow morning, whenever you take that shower, go cold the whole time.

Just do it one time and see how you do.

Okay.

I wanna go back to after fine.

But I will be so pumped if you're like, yo, I did the cold shower today.

Regardless of how you felt, if that can ripple and get you to

do it, that would, that would, uh, that would make my day, dude.

Okay.

I'm gonna, I'm literally going to text you tomorrow with the confirmation.

Great.

Yep.

No, I got you.

Great.

Um.

Okay, so now we have , a little comp, or not a competition,

but a little task to do here.

But, uh, we are coming towards the end of the podcast, which is

a bummer because I'm loving this conversation, although I know we'll,

uh, continue these convos down the road.

But I did have something I really wanted to ask you, and I think it

would be very beneficial for everyone, uh, listening and being that you

obviously have all this experience in.

You know, with health and, uh, trying to just be the best

version of yourself possible.

Uh, what are three recommendations you would give to someone who's

looking to improve and grow, both professionally and personally?

So could be a routine, an exercise, uh, meditation, whatever, uh,

whatever you feel is most beneficial.

Hmm.

. So both personally and professionally, and it needs to be

health and wellness essentially.

Yeah.

I mean it, or it could be even a certain book or you know,

just an, a podcast to listen to.

Just anything that you feel really, really benefits you in terms

of how you show up Both, yeah.

Professionally and, and personally.

Ah, that's such a good question.

Um, one new hack that I started incorporating, and once again, this

kind of plays into the financial thing.

If, if it, if it doesn't make sense, don't do it.

But doing workout classes instead of working out by myself, mm, that's

been incredible because I show up.

I don't have to think about what am I doing for a workout, I'm told what to do.

So it's almost like paying for a direct one-on-one coach

without paying the premium.

Um, and you're getting the community building, which can

bleed into the career aspect.

. So I'd say group workout classes if, if possible, and, and you can afford it.

I would say daily meditation, no questions asked.

Start with five minute YouTube video.

Work your way up to 10, 15, 20 minutes.

I, I do 20 minutes a day and that's it, you know, and it's perfect for me.

But doing that first thing in the morning allows me to like, sit with those

initial emotions and thoughts in third.

There's so many, so many.

This is such a good question, brother

Yeah, I know.

It's, uh, kind of a tough one.

I, um, I don't know if, uh, I mean those two are really good.

I mean, my, my top one is definitely meditation as well, but I, I,

I will say, continue to seek.

Resources that are talking about these topics.

Hmm.

That are talking about health and wellness or career or just in general.

Keep an open mind and check out podcasts like the School of Greatness.

Um, check out podcasts like on purpose with Jay Shetty.

, they bring in such phenomenal guests that every week there's a different expert

with a different aspect of your life.

So one week might be on brain health and next week might be on

dating the next, the next topic might be on mental health, right?

It kind of goes back to what we were talking about earlier in this podcast of

like, I really wanna help people in all these compartments of their life, and I.

carving out 30 minutes a day.

There it is.

Mm-hmm.

carving out 30 minutes a day to learn and grow and listen and

read will have a compound effect.

That's, that's become like my standard.

I try to grow a little bit each and every day, and as long as I do that,

I feel like I'm in a better position.

So my last one is just keep learning.

That'll, that'll open up a lot of doors and, and help guide you into,

uh, just devolving as a better version.

. It's that, that's perfect.

It's, uh, it's literally like the perfect for me morning routine, which I do

is, you know, uh, wake up to meditate, exercise and typically it's reading a

book for me, not the podcast, although I'll listen to podcasts later in the day.

And yeah, I highly, highly agree with everything you said there.

That's beautiful.

Yeah, it's great, man.

Perfect, Bobby.

Well, hey man, I want to give you this moment to share with us, you know, uh,

your courses, your, where we can, uh, con connect with you and follow you and

see what you're doing, um, if you're hosting any events or whatever, like where

people can find all of that good stuff.

I know you also have a master your minute, uh, course.

So if you want to talk about that a little bit as well, uh, feel free to

take the floor and, and just share all.

Yeah.

No, it's, uh, I appreciate that.

Um, defining just at Bob a b o three, BS, four As and Y on all social.

Uh, love the name.

Yeah, you can, you can find me across social.

Um, I, I, I think the, the best thing I can offer right now is the, the master

Your Minute, um, uh, video course that just came out about a month ago.

It's truly a, it's, it's a four day free course that's, Seven, 800 people so far.

Um, getting to a better place where their day truly is aligned

with like their priorities.

So if that's something you're struggling with, it's only 20

minutes a day or less and it's free comes with a custom workbook.

Um, if you find me on any socials, it's in my link and bio and you can find it there.

And um, yeah.

Other than that, I guess the last thing I'd say is I do have

a one-on-one coaching program.

You can also find that through my social links and.

. That's about it.

Awesome.

Yeah, no, thank you for sharing all of that.

I will share all of that information in the show notes so people can

directly click there and, and find and follow you and do all that good stuff.

Um, honestly, I'm just so stoked to have had you on today, Bobby, and I

really appreciate all the wisdom that you've shared today and, and I believe

you've brought a lot of benefit to everyone that's listening to this.

Yeah.

I appreciate you having me, Evan.

You're doing a great job as a.

I want to challenge anyone that hears this and is still listening.

Two things.

One, do the cold shower in the next 24 hours.

Just try it.

See how much differently you feel.

It might suck.

You might be uncomfortable, but just push through and get it done.

And two more importantly, if you are enjoying this podcast, please leave

this man review on iTunes podcast app on Spotify, wherever you're

listening to it, because there is so much work that goes on behind

the scenes to produce these podcast.

And if you're enjoying the show, it takes you all of 30 seconds

to do and it goes a long way.

So please leave him and review wherever you're listening to this

podcast cuz it will be appreciated.

Thank you, Bobby.

Yeah, no, I, I I appreciate that big time.

Yeah, it saves me the trouble of explaining it, but you're absolutely right

and, uh, yes, it is much appreciated.

So, uh, thank you from a fellow podcaster as well.

I know you know how that goes.

So yeah.

Thanks, man.

Um, everybody, you know the motto of the show.

It's due everything with good intentions and connect your elements.

Thank you for joining Bobby.