This week, Leif and Steve recap Gossip Girl Season 5, Episode 8, “All the Pretty Sources”—an episode that finally brings the drama back in a big way. From a lavish bridal shower to a full-blown Gossip Girl data leak, chaos reigns across the Upper East Side.
📈 Up: Serena, Chuck, Nate, Max, Grandfather
📉 Down: Dan, Blair, Louis, Ivy, Diana (and the Waldorf doorman)
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They would find her.
Steve:Yeah, yeah.
Leif:Lily would. Lily would. Cece would just destroy
Leif:her.
Steve:She'd need to, like, find. She'd need to, like.
Leif:There's no running Cooper. The roads, Vander,
Leif:Woodson, Basses.
Steve:Living.
Steve:Living somewhere out in a cabin in the woods.
Steve:Unless a private SWAT team will show up.
Leif:hey, Upper east siders and all you scandal loving
Leif:listeners out there, you just tuned into the non
Leif:judging breakfast pod where the coffee is strong,
Leif:the waffles are fresh, and the gossip is hotter
Leif:than ever. My name is Leif and I'm your seasoned
Leif:Gossip Girl veteran.
Steve:And I'm Steve, the newbie, the rookie, the
Steve:greenhorn, the. I don't know, Leif. What am I now
Steve:that we're in season five?
Leif:I don't know, but something I learned early on,
Leif:never watch a clockwork garage while you're
Leif:stoned. It takes you your mind to places, has no
Leif:business going. Also, I'm Batman.
Steve:like Blair's wedding, shower that you and I were
Steve:somehow left off the list.
Leif:Tragic oversight.
Steve:Rude Serena. So here's the deal, folks. Leaf has
Steve:been watching Gossip Girl since it first aired,
Steve:and I'm diving in for the first time. And
Steve:together, we're your dynamic duo, bringing you all
Steve:the drama, romance, and sometimes questionable
Steve:fashion choices of this iconic 2007 series.
Leif:Bring your magnifying glasses, because each week
Leif:we're dissecting every juicy detail of the show
Leif:one episode at a time. We'll connect the dots,
Leif:uncover those sneaky little Easter eggs, and of
Leif:course, serve up some piping hot behind the scenes
Leif:tea. And expect some iconic fandom moments too,
Leif:because what's a deep dive without a little drama?
Steve:And since we are all about inclusivity here on the
Steve:non judging breakfast pod, there is always a seat
Steve:for you at the non judging breakfast table. So go
Steve:ahead and grab a mimosa, a cup of coffee, or roll
Steve:up what Dan got ahead of this weekend and go ahead
Steve:and let's get started.
Leif:This episode, will be releasing on 4 20. So happy
Leif:420.
Steve:Happy 4 20.
Leif:And also, hopefully by the time this episode
Leif:releases, we will have our very first Patreon
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Steve:Yes, very excited about that.
Leif:But today we are here to talk about season five,
Leif:episode eight, all the pretty sources. The
Leif:original air date was November 21, 2011 and was
Leif:based on the movie title, all the Pretty Horses.
Leif:Not seen it, but no, it's me neither. Directed by
Leif:Billy Bob Thornton. Starring, Matt Damon, Penelope
Leif:Cruz and Henry Thomas. Two Texas cowboys head to
Leif:Mexico in search of work, but soon find themselves
Leif:in trouble with the law after one of them falls in
Leif:love with a wealthy rancher's daughter. All right,
Leif:this episode was written by Austin Winsburg.
Leif:Another first time writer goes on to write two
Leif:more episodes this season. Written, for a handful
Leif:of shows. Nothing really stood out. He was also
Leif:listed as the creator for a show called Jake in
Leif:Progress.
Steve:I think I saw an episode of that. I have no real
Steve:complaints on the writing in this episode.
Leif:This is a much better episode.
Steve:Yeah, yeah, this was a much better episode than
Steve:what we've been getting. And I have no complaints
Steve:about the writing other than anything I didn't
Steve:like. It was handed to him and not.
Leif:Yeah, overall story arc.
Steve:Yeah, it's overall story arc things.
Leif:The episode was directed by Sherry Newlin. this is
Leif:her one and only episode of Gossip Girl, but been
Leif:a TV director from 92 until present. Worked on
Leif:things like the 90210 reboot, Grey's Anatomy and
Leif:Blood and Oil, which, ah, starred Chase Crawford.
Steve:Oh, okay.
Leif:I think it was a one season show.
Leif:Notable guest stars this week we have the return
Leif:of Michaela, Annette and Ellie Pettit as the mini
Leif:Serena and mini Blair.
Leif:And we also had Mary o' Rourke and Darcy Falona
Leif:credited as board strippers. And once again
Leif:returning we have friend of the pod, Alice
Leif:Callahan, along with Amanda Sutton and Nan Zhang
Leif:back as Blair's minions. That would be, Jessica,
Leif:Penelope and Coti. And of course we have Hugo
Leif:Becker as Louis. And I was actually looking at a
Leif:recent picture of him. He looks strikingly like
Leif:Adam Brody.
Steve:Oh, really? That's pretty funny.
Leif:He's got like a beard and stuff like that going
Leif:on. shaggy hair. Of course we have Elizabeth
Leif:Hurley as Diana, Brian J. Smith as Max, and James
Leif:Norton as the grandfather. Yes, why don't you give
Leif:us that Vulture recap?
Steve:Here's what Vulture had to say. Despite his recent
Steve:trip to Italy, which faces real problems, Prince
Steve:Louis was still twitchy upon his return to the
Steve:Upper east side over the goings on among New York
Steve:City's leisure class. He's barely put down his
Steve:conciliatory gift to Blair and finished claiming
Steve:to be a better man before declaring in the grand
Steve:tradition of overly possessive ex boyfriends, his
Steve:belief that her friends were not looking out for
Steve:her best interests. Au contraire, mon fr. Last
Steve:night, the scheming when plotting was left to the
Steve:outsiders as many of the characters bestowed
Steve:kindness on one another. Serena orchestrated a
Steve:Tiffany's themed shower for Blair and even roped
Steve:her minions into containing the surprise. When Dan
Steve:grew despondent over his outsider status, Chuck
Steve:shared with him his wisdom and his pot and even
Steve:his hookers, proving that Lonely boy is not so
Steve:much of an outsider after all. Even tooth bearing
Steve:cougaress Elizabeth Hurley showed a softer side.
Steve:The Maud to, Nate's Herald. She sacrificed herself
Steve:so that Nate might live on unencumbered in this
Steve:case by a terrible secret that would blow his pure
Steve:and honest mind. She's actually a man and having a
Steve:great gay affair with his grandfather. Just a
Steve:guess.
Leif:That would be interesting.
Steve:That would be interesting. It would be a lot more.
Steve:I'd be interested.
Leif:What do you think the secret is? I assume you
Leif:think you know what it is.
Steve:Yeah, I think it's the ch. I think it's Chuck's
Steve:dad. I think it's that she's Chuck's mom. But then
Steve:it makes me wonder, is grandfather Chuck's real
Steve:dad? And did Bart raise this kid? Some weird thing
Steve:like that. But I do think that the biggest secret
Steve:is she's Chuck's mom. Or maybe. Maybe Nate's mom.
Leif:That one's a little harder to fake.
Steve:Well, other than the fact that if grandfather is
Steve:like, you will raise this
Leif:kid, we get into Act 1 with a gossip Girl blast. A
Leif:shower is supposed to make you feel fresh and
Leif:clean, but on the Upper east side, they're where I
Leif:get the most dirt. And Bea's bridal shower tonight
Leif:promises be an absolutely filthy affair. The only
Leif:two people left off the list. One. Chuck. As for
Leif:number two in high school, D. Got left off the
Leif:list because no one knew who he was. Now it's
Leif:because they know all too well. Looks like Lonely
Leif:Boy needs to change his name to banished boy.
Steve:First of all, I loved how that was delivered only
Steve:partly from Gossip Girl and how Dan delivered the
Steve:end. Yeah, but the other thing. I know I don't
Steve:often comment on the Gossip Girl things, but this
Steve:one, something really stood out. She said, I get
Steve:all of my best gossip at showers. You cover
Steve:teenagers for all this time? How many showers have
Steve:there been? Gossip Girl. How many of these
Steve:teenagers were getting married or pregnant?
Leif:At this point? At least three years worth.
Steve:Sure. But it's still like, is that really where
Steve:you get all your best stuff?
Leif:And they're probably also going to showers from
Leif:people. People. She's covering are going to
Leif:showers from people from ages, ah, 20 to 30.
Steve:Yeah, I'm just saying that I. I, feel like it is
Steve:not something that has been because she so
Steve:regularly goes after the same people that there
Steve:isn't that they have not been in. This is the
Steve:first, what, second shower in the show. Did Lily
Steve:have a shower? I forget.
Leif:Probably.
Steve:I. I think Lily had one for the Bart wedding, but
Steve:not for the Rufus one.
Leif:We get Gossip Girls episode intro during shots of
Leif:Serena prepping gift bags for Blair's shower. Not
Leif:much to see there.
Steve:No.
Leif:Next we see Chuck, a walking monkey in the park,
Leif:and he is confronted by Mini Blair and Minnie.
Steve:Serena loved this scene. It was so good when he's
Steve:like, I will feel no remorse if I let my attack
Steve:dog on you. And I'll have you know it's trained to
Steve:attack fake Prada.
Leif:Burn, burn. Dan is reading Gossip Girls blast to
Leif:Lily and Rufus as he complains about not being
Leif:invited to the shower. poor Dan.
Steve:M. Oh, I wrote a book and all my friends hate me
Steve:because I talked on most of them. Yeah, Dan,
Steve:exactly like you predict. Lying about the book
Steve:tour. Again, like Dan.
Leif:Maybe the writers decided that was too dark for
Leif:Dan.
Steve:Yeah.
Leif:And he actually did go off screen. Yeah, because
Leif:it didn't really make sense. Just go.
Steve:Yeah, it's a free trip. It's a free trip across
Steve:the country in all of these bookstores to sit
Steve:there and sign. If you sign one, if you sign 50,
Steve:who cares? The less you have to sign, the less you
Steve:have to interact with people. Dan, this is perfect
Steve:for you. You could go and not have to deal with
Steve:anybody.
Leif:Louie returns to Blair's room, gifts in hand and
Leif:apologies spilling out of his mouth. Blair
Leif:forgives him and begins talking about the shower.
Leif:But Louis tries to throw some shade at Serena and
Leif:the rest of her friends.
Steve:Did that all happen in the same scene?
Leif:Yeah, Louis.
Steve:Fuck all the way off you come in. Oh, I'm so sorry
Steve:that I was such an asshole about, there is
Leif:more arguing later in a later scene, right?
Steve:Yeah, yeah, in an upcoming scene. But it's like
Steve:you come in with all these gifts to apologize and
Leif:like
Steve:Gossip Girl or like you just said, he doesn't even
Steve:set him down before he's shitting on her friends.
Leif:Love bomb. And then isolation.
Steve:Yep. Yep. Demonstrate value. Engage physically.
Steve:Nurture dependence. Neglect emotionally. Inspire
Steve:hope. Separate entirely.
Leif:But that's not what he's trying to do.
Steve:Yeah, yeah, he's already got it. To fall in love
Steve:with him, he
Leif:doesn't need to well, he doesn't want to separate
Leif:entirely.
Steve:Yeah, he doesn't want to separate entirely. He's
Steve:just. Well, yeah, he's definitely not.
Leif:This is not the Dentist. This is the. I want to
Leif:control and put you into an abusive relationship.
Steve:Yeah. Forever. Yeah.
Leif:I Want you to be this pretty thing on my
Leif:mantelpiece.
Steve:Yeah. I saved you from that abusive relationship
Steve:so I could put you into a new abusive relationship
Steve:with me.
Leif:Nate is showing the grandfather around the
Leif:Spectator and he says he's impressed with it.
Leif:Enter Diana, who plays dumb about knowing the
Leif:grandfather.
Steve:We all know you know the grandfather, but like.
Steve:Yeah, I mean, I know Nate doesn't, but God, I
Steve:can't. She's. I just can't wait for her to be gone
Steve:and I feel like I. I'm not done with her yet.
Steve:Despite all signs.
Leif:Definitely got you. Don't reiterate that she has a
Leif:big secret right before she leaves.
Steve:Right, right, right. And you don't have her say,
Steve:I'm about to wage war on you.
Leif:Yeah, well, she stops, she stops that because the,
Leif:the list was out. We'll get to that decision. Ah,
Leif:Ivy gets a call back from Carol because Ivy is
Leif:panicking about getting caught. Carol threatens to
Leif:take Ivy down with her if she tries to run.
Steve:So Ivy, you have all the money you need right now
Steve:to disappear. Just write yourself one big check
Steve:and disappear. Change your identity, go to
Steve:Portland with Max. I mean, not that you really
Steve:want to be with Max.
Leif:Yeah, that would never work with these people. No,
Leif:they would fucking find her.
Steve:Yeah, yeah, Lily would.
Leif:And Lily would. Cece would just destroy her.
Steve:She'd need to like, find. She'd need to like.
Leif:There's no running Cooper. The roads. Vanderwoods
Leif:and Basses living, living somewhere out
Steve:in a cabin in the woods. And a private SWAT team
Steve:will show up.
Leif:We jump back into Blair and Louis arguing. Louis
Leif:says he has created separation from his family and
Leif:Blair should do the same for. With her friends.
Leif:Completely unrelated. FYI, when your partner tries
Leif:to isolate you from friends and family, it's a big
Leif:red flag. Just then a, ah, Gossip Girl blast comes
Leif:through talking about Blair's paternity test. And
Leif:of course Louis, one of Blair's friends just had
Leif:the tip. When Blair goes to ask Serena about it
Leif:directly, Serena closes the door to their
Leif:conjoined bathroom in Blair's face.
Steve:This was when I was really like, Louie, like, fuck
Steve:all the way off. Like, this is just the thing that
Steve:you left in shame for was doing this stuff. Like
Steve:she's mad at you. In the first place for fucking
Steve:with
Leif:her friends and just being manipulative in
Leif:general.
Steve:And, just being a manipulative, gaslighting
Steve:fucking prick, man. My hatred of Louie has
Steve:increased every episode this season. He's just the
Steve:fucking worst.
Leif:Now that Nate has left Diana. Ah. And the
Leif:grandfather dropped the pretense of not knowing
Leif:each other. The grandfather is pissed that Diana
Leif:and not Nate as the center of attention. He gives
Leif:her 72 hours to accomplish her goals or else she
Leif:is fired as editor in chief.
Steve:why is he your boyfriend? He's like, I've got this
Steve:magazine here. Why is he your boyfriend? Standing
Steve:behind you and all this. But yeah, it's this plot
Steve:to rehabilitate Nate and make him the editor in
Steve:chief of a newspaper.
Leif:Because he earned it.
Steve:Yeah, because he earned it. He's earned it by now.
Leif:I cracked up so hard at the thought. Yeah.
Steve:Of Nate earning something. He earned it the way
Steve:I've earned everything and the way my father
Steve:before me earned everything by being a white man
Steve:in corporate America.
Leif:Dan does an unannounced popover to the Empire
Leif:suite, hoping Chuck can distract him from not
Leif:being invited to the shower. At first, Chuck is
Leif:nonchalant and casually insults Dan multiple
Leif:times. However, when Chuck glances at an article
Leif:about Blair and Louis, he changes his tune and
Leif:says he's in.
Steve:Yeah, I love a good. I love the Dan Chuck stuff. I
Steve:love the. I loved every part of that in this
Steve:episode. I. I loved every part of the friendship.
Steve:We'll get to Dan get to Pen's acting drunk.
Leif:Later, Max shows up at the penthouse looking for
Leif:Ivy. He shows Lily a picture of Charlie on Gossip
Leif:Girl. Charlie walks in and it cuts to a commercial
Leif:break.
Steve:Should have stayed in Portland, Max.
Leif:And Gossip Girl has this to say as we go to the
Leif:break. Seems Charlie's in hot water and she's
Leif:about to get burned.
Steve:Yeah. See how you get out of this one, Charlie?
Leif:So we get into Act 2, and Charlie, apparently on
Leif:the spot, comes up with an excuse that would make
Leif:Jenny proud. She convinces Lily that Carol forced
Leif:her to go under the name Ivy Dickens to hide her
Leif:family wealth.
Steve:Yep, it was a really good, like you said, Jenny
Steve:esque move. Thought on her feet. Got out of it
Steve:quickly. It was well done, Jenny.
Leif:Charlie at the Spectator. Diana explains her 72
Leif:hour deadline to Nate without telling the full
Leif:story. They decide their only hope is to, attack
Leif:Gossip Girl directly. When Diana wishes they could
Leif:hack Gossip Girl's phone, Nate has an idea.
Steve:I have an idea. I'm going to call Someone smarter
Steve:than me? Yes.
Leif:Well, I said this before, but, Nate really is just
Leif:Tommy boy.
Steve:Really? Yeah. Lots of you people spend seven years
Leif:in college, and I would have loved to see a young
Leif:Chris Farley play Nate.
Steve:God, now I'm just picturing, like, the Chris
Steve:Farley reaction when. When the stuff gets
Steve:released.
Leif:Oh, Diana.
Steve:Oh, yeah.
Leif:It would be so much better.
Steve:It would.
Leif:It would.
Steve:It would love you, Chase.
Leif:But, I mean, it's not. Is that Chris Farley isn't
Leif:quite as pretty as Chase Crawford, but, he's a lot
Leif:more charismatic.
Steve:Yeah. Yeah.
Leif:Snacks, whiskey, weed, and Keanu. These are the
Leif:tools of distraction Chuck has presented for
Leif:himself and Dan. It's not working, though, because
Leif:Dan can't stop whinging about Serena not inviting
Leif:him and ruining his movie. Chuck tells Dan he
Leif:needs to be a man of action and leaves him alone
Leif:with two escorts who get off the elevator.
Steve:This is the first time we've seen Dan smoke pot,
Steve:right?
Leif:I'm pretty sure.
Steve:yeah, I don't think he's much of a. Of a weed guy,
Steve:so. In fact, I don't think we've really seen him
Steve:drink much either, have we?
Leif:He does once in a while.
Steve:Yeah. I guess when he.
Leif:He's at parties, he drinks beer.
Steve:Yeah. And he. When he banged, Georgina, he was
Steve:drunk.
Leif:Yeah.
Steve:And, yeah, so, yeah, he's definitely drank before,
Steve:but I don't think we've ever seen him smoke
Steve:before.
Leif:Although who knows what. What they all did that
Leif:night where he hung out with Chuck last time.
Steve:Oh, yeah, that's true.
Leif:He at least did pills.
Steve:Yeah.
Leif:Some guy. Yeah, they could have been Tylenol, for
Leif:all we know. Right? Which.
Steve:That would be the most Chuck thing to do, too. You
Steve:want to really live in my world? Like, make them
Steve:snort some Tylenol.
Leif:and as. So as I mentioned at the top of the
Leif:episode, IMDb lists them as strippers, but they
Leif:are clearly not a little more than strippers.
Steve:They're clearly prostitutes.
Leif:Yes.
Steve:They come in and it's like, yeah, hey, these women
Steve:are here for your delight, Dan. Go be a man of
Steve:action.
Leif:Yes.
Steve:At the very best, they're just gold diggers. Like,
Steve:with the thought of, maybe if I sleep with this
Steve:guy, I'll, have access to his money. But more
Steve:likely, Chuck hired prostitutes for Dan.
Leif:Yes.
Steve:Which you can't say Chuck isn't a good friend.
Leif:No.
Steve:Chuck looks out for his friends the way Chuck
Steve:knows how to look out for people. What would I
Steve:want in this situation? I'm gonna go take Monkey
Steve:for A walk.
Leif:I have to say, the dog is working on me a little
Leif:bit.
Steve:Yeah, I hate how much it's working on me. It is
Steve:such a great addition.
Leif:The daddy issues can totally miss me. but the dog
Leif:kind of gets me a little bit.
Steve:Yeah. Yeah.
Leif:Blair is shopping with the minions and trying to
Leif:pry info about the shower out of them. They. They
Leif:lie and tell Blair Serena has been really busy and
Leif:it's going to be a low key, casual affair. Blair
Leif:begins to spiral Louis. Earlier words about her
Leif:friends are starting to take root in her head.
Steve:That made me sad. That. And there was a small part
Steve:of me. A small part of me that hoped Louis was in
Steve:on it. That Louis was like, oh, your friends don't
Steve:really have your back as part of the thing. I
Steve:didn't really feel that was the case, but I was
Steve:hoping there would be that reveal that, like,
Steve:maybe Louis is also playing along and loves the
Steve:friends and it's fine. And obviously.
Leif:But also. Serena, when will you learn this? This
Leif:bait and switch for the parties is never a good
Leif:idea. Yeah, it always pulls up in your face.
Steve:Yeah, always. Although honestly, it really didn't
Steve:this time. Like, it wasn't.
Leif:And it didn't really in the Nate case either,
Leif:because he was, The only time it really blew up
Leif:because it was slightly different was the Jenny
Leif:case.
Steve:Yeah. Yeah.
Leif:But that was a different type of basement because
Leif:that. That she said she was giving the party that
Leif:Jenny wanted and gave her something different.
Steve:Right.
Leif:In all the other cases, it was giving. Saying the
Leif:lame party and giving her. Giving them what they
Leif:want.
Steve:Yeah. Oh, yeah. The whole, like, surprise thing
Steve:with Nate.
Leif:Yeah. but of course, she does always get away with
Leif:it in the end because it's. She's Serena.
Steve:Yes. Serena gets away with absolutely everything
Steve:she ever does.
Leif:Also from the scene, what was Penelope wearing?
Leif:Oh, yeah, it looked like a smock.
Steve:Yeah.
Leif:Like a floral, like, painting smock. Yeah. with a
Leif:skirt attached to it.
Steve:Yeah.
Leif:It just like, it was very ill fitting and. Yeah.
Leif:Just didn't look good.
Steve:Yeah.
Leif:Serena receives a text from Penelope letting her
Leif:know the deflections are working. She then gets a
Leif:call from Nate, who tells her to check her laptop.
Leif:Nate created a webpage, which apparently he is
Leif:something he can do. He got Jonathan to hack
Leif:Gossip Girl again and has published a list of all
Leif:her previously anonymous sources. Serena convinces
Leif:them releasing it would hurt their friends and
Leif:they shouldn't release the list. Unfortunately,
Leif:Diana overhears Nate and Louis on Serena's end.
Steve:Oh, man. I want. There was something I had to Say
Steve:about this? This was Serena. And convinces Nate
Steve:not to. Not to post the thing, Right? Yeah.
Leif:And they calls her and says, like, here, I created
Leif:this thing.
Steve:I created this website. That's what I wanted to
Steve:address. I believe that when Nate says, I made
Steve:this website, that it's actually, Jonathan made
Steve:the website, but because Nate told him to do it
Steve:and it's on the Spectator, he's kind of taking the
Steve:editorial. We here. Yes, I made this website by
Steve:having someone do it for me. Nate, you didn't make
Steve:a website.
Leif:Or maybe he did.
Steve:Yeah, well, we'll get to that. We'll get to that.
Steve:We'll get to that. We'll get to that.
Leif:Ivy, alone with Max in her room, says she still
Leif:loves him, but she can't be with him right now.
Leif:She offers him 50,000 to go away, and she will
Leif:follow him in a few months.
Steve:She's not going to follow you, Max. Max, just go.
Steve:Take the money and go.
Leif:On his way out, Max tells Lily it was nice to meet
Leif:her, and she shows him a family portrait. When he
Leif:sees Carol, he goes from nice guy to scheming
Leif:villain, all in an instant, like, a flash.
Steve:You just see him. You just, like, in his face, you
Steve:see him just go from, like, fucking the beef.
Leif:the nice deer.
Steve:Yeah.
Leif:Just comes this country bumpkin cook guy. Yeah,
Leif:Like.
Steve:Like, he. He goes from being Colin Hanks in, like,
Steve:any of his comedic stuff to Colin Hanks in Dexter.
Steve:Just, like, a quick flash of like. Like, oh,
Steve:that's her mom. Well, also, I. I feel like Lily
Steve:when he's like, oh, Mrs. Humphrey. Yes, I'm Mrs.
Steve:Humphrey.
Leif:What the fuck am I doing?
Steve:What is that? Is that the name? Why didn't he take
Steve:one of my names? Why couldn't he be Rufus Van Der
Steve:Woodson?
Leif:this is what Gossip Girl says as we go to the next
Leif:act break. Oh, Charlie, your mother of a lie is
Leif:about to get you stuck in one big parent trap. We
Leif:move into Act 3. Diana is a giddy schoolgirl after
Leif:she has gotten a chance to look at Nate's webpage.
Leif:However, when she realizes Nate has never sent a
Leif:tip to Gossip Girl, he convinces her not to
Leif:release the list. When Nate leaves, she makes a
Leif:call to someone and says, we need to talk.
Steve:Okay. First, I want to bring something up about
Steve:the previous scene that we had just mentioned with
Steve:Lily. Do you think Lily has ever maybe since her
Steve:first husband. Do you think she's legally changed
Steve:her name?
Leif:Sure. Why not? Because it's just, It's Just a
Leif:bunny thing.
Steve:Yeah, I could almost see it that, like, I could
Steve:almost see all of her checks being Lily Rhodes and
Steve:it not being a legal thing, because why bother?
Steve:You're right that it could also just be like, oh,
Steve:well, it's just signing checks and sending paper
Steve:to someone. But I could also see her being like,
Steve:sure, Rufus, I'm Lily Humphrey. Now, onto the
Steve:matter at hand. I paused the show and stood up and
Steve:said, nate is Gossip Girl at this moment. I don't
Steve:know who it's going to end up being, but at this
Steve:moment, the writers think that Nate is Gossip
Steve:Girl. And I missed the earlier hint with the
Steve:whole, like a, ah, website I made that Nate is
Steve:saying I have the capacity to make it a website,
Steve:but when she pulls up the emails and there isn't a
Steve:single one from Nate and he is unfazed by it, I
Steve:paused it and I stood up and I said, nate's Gossip
Steve:Girl. As of right now. I don't think Nate's going
Steve:to be Gossip Girl in the end, which. What. What
Steve:makes me even happier is that if they don't make
Steve:him Gossip Girl in the end, right. If they do
Steve:change it again and have it be somebody else, then
Steve:that means canonically he is not Gossip Girl now
Steve:and he really is just the super fucking nice guy
Steve:that we really want Nate to be. I can't imagine
Steve:Nate's not smart enough to be Gossip Girl unless
Steve:everything is just a huge fucking act, which,
Steve:cool. But I think that it's a little too much of a
Steve:stretch. I'd believe Chuck. I'd believe Dan with
Steve:releasing Inside and all that stuff. I believe Dan
Steve:could do it. I believe it could be Bart, because
Steve:I'm still not convinced Bart's dead. But I do not
Steve:believe that they're going to let it end up being
Steve:Nate. But I do believe that at this moment, the
Steve:staff is convinced or whoever is running it is
Steve:convinced Nate is currently Gossip Girl.
Leif:That would be a fair assumption. who did you think
Leif:Diana called?
Steve:So it almost led me to believe. My first watch
Steve:through, I was like, why is she calling Louis?
Steve:Because it cuts right to Louie. But then I
Steve:realized that that was just a progression thing.
Steve:I'm assuming she called Grandfather because she
Steve:sees him later in the,
Leif:I mean, that's when we figure out what it was.
Steve:Yeah, yeah.
Leif:But like, initially, well, the first time
Steve:I watched and they cut right to Louis, I thought
Steve:it was Louis.
Leif:It doesn't. The next scene is, ah, Lily.
Steve:Oh, right. It's because then we see Lou. It Was
Steve:because the next time we see Louis, he releases
Steve:the stuff. So that's why I was thinking it was
Steve:Louis at that time.
Leif:Nathan, she could have been calling Gossip Girl.
Steve:Well, no, because he just left.
Leif:Fair enough.
Steve:Could you imagine now? Excuse me, I need to take
Steve:this call. It's like voice modulated. Nate on the
Steve:other end. Yes, we will meet up soon.
Leif:It comes outside like, Kirsten Bell.
Steve:Yeah, good. See Kristen Bell. Kristen Bell.
Steve:Kristen.
Leif:One of them. Something like that. Yeah.
Steve:Veronica Mars.
Leif:Lily gets a call from Blair fishing for more info
Leif:on the party. Lily, with a huge grin on her face,
Leif:bold face, lies about what will be at the party
Leif:while Charlie listens in the background. After the
Leif:call, Lily is eager to gossip about Max. Charlie
Leif:apologizes to Lily for having her find out about
Leif:the whole Ivy Dickens thing. That way Lily puts
Leif:all the blame on Carol.
Steve:Well played, Charlie. Really well played. Way to
Steve:put Lily and Carol against each other even
Steve:further. Divide them more. Divide and conquer. I
Steve:also loved Lily fucking with Blair.
Leif:She was so happy about it.
Steve:Shaved ice. And just to hear Blair on the other
Steve:end and just knowing how bad. And then for. And I
Steve:love the explanation too, how Charlie was like,
Steve:isn't this kind of mean? And she's like, this is
Steve:the one thing Blair isn't going to have control
Steve:over in her life. Let us have this.
Leif:We see Max in a crappy looking apartment, pull a
Leif:playbill from a packing box. He sees Ivy and Carol
Leif:both listed, but then a third listing. Although we
Leif:don't see the face for Charlotte. Charlie Rhodes.
Leif:Dun, dun, dun.
Steve:Yeah, I honestly feel like Charlie had another
Steve:easy out here of like. Yeah, my mom didn't want me
Steve:associated with it, so I switched names with the.
Steve:With the stage manager. Not a great one, but like,
Steve:there are ways around. Oh, it was a misprint in
Steve:the thing.
Leif:Presumably he was also working the show.
Steve:Oh, was he also a theater person? I didn't get
Steve:that.
Leif:I figured he was not like a theater, but more like
Leif:a stagehand or something like that.
Steve:Yeah, I guess I just didn't really put that
Steve:together. But he finds this out, unfortunately.
Leif:I saw this scene when we get the close up, her
Leif:picture is cut off. And the cat, because there is
Leif:a cast photo above. We know she's the middle of
Leif:the middle row. She's. She's the queen of hearts,
Leif:so. But her face is cut off there.
Steve:Oh, for the. For the Charlie Rhodes.
Leif:Yeah. So we don't. We don't get to see her here at
Leif:all.
Steve:Smart. Smart. I. Yeah. I thought there just wasn't
Steve:A picture of her on there. I thought that.
Leif:That's what I thought originally. And it was like.
Leif:It was kind of weird. It's like, why are you
Leif:showing pictures of the, like, stage manager and,
Leif:like, a donator, Someone who donated money to the
Leif:show and not the cast? But then, yeah, the above
Leif:photo is, like, a group photo of the cast. And,
Leif:like. And like. Like, if you read the. The prints,
Leif:it's like, left to right, first row, middle row,
Leif:and. And front row.
Steve:Yeah. Yeah.
Leif:Charlie. Charlotte Rose was in the middle row and
Leif:the fourth from the. The end. Chuck returns home
Leif:to find the escorts sitting alone on the couch in
Leif:towels. One tells him that Dan left when they were
Leif:in the shower together. The other one just sits
Leif:there looking incredibly bored.
Steve:You know, he went into the shower and waited for
Steve:him and never showed up. Just something about
Steve:being a man of action.
Leif:He said something about a shower, so we figured,
Leif:yeah, let's go get a shower. Yeah. And then he
Leif:never showed up.
Steve:Oh, I just now put that together. I don't know why
Steve:I didn't put that together at all. And that is so
Steve:funny. I'm such an idiot. But that is so funny.
Leif:Blair finds Louis on Serena's computer, but Blair
Leif:is too distracted to think twice about it. She
Leif:says that perhaps he was right about her friends,
Leif:but it's time to go to the shower. Before
Leif:following her, Louis hangs back to publish the
Leif:list of Gossip Girl sources.
Steve:You fucking asshole. Also, Serena, there's a
Steve:little X at the top of the browser that lets you,
Steve:like, close things out so that people. But also,
Steve:like, you went into someone else's laptop and
Steve:uploaded something to someone else's company's
Steve:website. Fraud from the Prince of Monaco.
Leif:And this is what Gossip Girl has to say about it.
Leif:It's important to be careful about what you tell
Leif:others because sometimes your words can come back
Leif:to haunt you. It can happen to anybody, even me.
Leif:We move into Act 4. Of course, Serena threw the
Leif:perfect breakfast at Tiffany's theme shower. And
Leif:Blair is pleasantly surprised when she and Louis
Leif:arrive. Serena and Blair hug. Crisis momentarily
Leif:averted.
Steve:Yeah. Beautiful shower when she walks in. And
Steve:Blair is immediately thrilled and loses all of her
Steve:concerns of her friends abandoning her and not
Steve:having her best interests at heart.
Leif:And of course, we will be talking about breakfast
Leif:activities at, our. On our first Patreon, episode.
Steve:Yes.
Leif:Patreon.com non judging breakfast pod. The minions
Leif:get an alarming text just before Serena gets up to
Leif:give her toast. Serena gives a lovely speech
Leif:honoring her long friendship with Blair. She
Leif:announces everyone Gets a blue Tiffany's box. One
Leif:will contain a Tiffany's diamond ring. The rest
Leif:are empty. After the speech, minions reveal Gossip
Leif:Girl's list of sources have been released.
Steve:Why? Favorite one ring for one person?
Leif:Yeah, I guess having like a big fancy ring in one.
Leif:But then you put like a, you know, $3, $5 for
Leif:$100. For Serena. Yeah, for Serena.
Steve:Yeah. Like, yeah, you have like this nice ten
Steve:thousand dollar ring and then a bunch of other,
Steve:like, dollar four hundred rings.
Leif:Fucking Serena.
Steve:Fucking Serena.
Leif:A drunk and belligerent Dan gets onto in an
Leif:elevator with a group of party guests. He ra how
Leif:he is cra. How he's crashing the party. The guests
Leif:seem disgusted.
Steve:Pen, your drunk is your Joe Goldberg.
Leif:It's.
Steve:It's almost the same thing.
Leif:Like.
Steve:Like, it's the crazy Joe. Like, when he gets. Like
Steve:when Joe starts getting, like, anime animated and.
Steve:But, like, I just thought that it was a terrible
Steve:drunk. Like, I didn't like, it felt.
Leif:I was entertained by a force.
Steve:I. I was entertained. I thought that the acting
Steve:was mid, but I was entertained by the scene.
Leif:I think the acting accomplished what it was trying
Leif:to accomplish. Sure. Serena calls Nate about the
Leif:list. Nate assumes Diana posted the list. Serena
Leif:asks him to fix it while she does damage control
Leif:at the party.
Steve:Didn't she give her speech, you said?
Leif:Yeah.
Steve:Oh, okay. Yeah. I loved her speech for Blair. It
Steve:was very sweet, very heartfelt, and very, like,
Steve:season five. Serena.
Leif:That was like three scenes ago.
Steve:Oh, was it? I thought I was right there. I thought
Steve:that all happened at the same time. Because then
Steve:she leaves the speech and sees Penelope in the.
Leif:yeah, yeah, but that was two scenes ago.
Steve:Was it? My bad. All right, I'm catching up.
Leif:So you had the speech, then you had Dan on the
Leif:elevator, Then you had Serena call Nate.
Steve:Oh, okay. Yeah. All right. Yeah. I don't know how
Steve:I flaked on that. Well, I know how I flaked on it,
Steve:but. Yes. now, Serena. Okay. Serena calls Nate.
Steve:Moving on.
Leif:Dan and Chuck arrive. Louie goes to intercept
Leif:Chuck, but when Chuck says he's there to stop Dan
Leif:from making a scene, Louie lets him through too.
Steve:Yeah. And grumpily. Why don't you ask him for
Steve:yourself?
Leif:I actually really like Lou's act scene. The way he
Leif:just, like, swung his whole body around to stop
Leif:him.
Steve:Yeah, yeah. Oh, when they. When they first
Steve:confronted. Yeah.
Leif:He, like, turns around and like, the way he turns
Leif:around, like, it's like almost like a running
Leif:back.
Steve:Yeah. Yeah.
Leif:Diana meets with the grandfather to tell him she
Leif:saw a new side of Nate's. Today, William makes a
Leif:crude joke about their, intimate. The intimate
Leif:nature of her relationship with his grandson. She
Leif:tells him he she was ready to stand by Nate and go
Leif:to war against him until Gossip Girl's list was
Leif:leaked. Before we can hear how this affects her
Leif:plans, they are interrupted by Nate and the scene
Leif:cuts.
Steve:Yeah, I had trouble really caring about this
Steve:because I want her gone so bad anyway. But, like,
Steve:how she's like, now trying to recruit Nate to go
Steve:to war against grandfather, which not difficult to
Steve:do.
Leif:I think she's that though.
Steve:well, she says. I mean, she's saying there that
Steve:she's trying.
Leif:Nah, she said she was going to. Right, That's.
Leif:This is what I was going to do until the list
Leif:leak.
Steve:Right. No, I'm saying that that was a bad idea. I
Steve:mean, that was a. A feasible idea in the first
Steve:place because getting Nate to go against
Steve:grandfather would not be too tough, especially if
Steve:you're the hot older woman he's banging.
Leif:But you keep talking about going to war, in the
Leif:present tense, but that never is going to happen.
Steve:No, no, Yeah, I get you.
Leif:The leaked list is causing chaos at the bridal
Leif:shower. Blair is finally looped in on what's going
Leif:on when Penelope shows Blair the list on her
Leif:phone. Serena is trying to do damage control by
Leif:announcing it's time for everyone to open their
Leif:boxes. Of course, her air quotes cousin gets the
Leif:diamond and the rest of the gets get diddly squat.
Steve:Nothing.
Leif:Charlie immediately panics when she sees Max get
Leif:off the elevator. She starts to pull him off
Leif:towards her room, and he says he knows the real
Leif:Charlie is in Florida.
Steve:Yeah.
Leif:Yep, Blair is being lambasted by the means for all
Leif:the shit she slung at Gossip Girl over the years.
Steve:Yeah, I mean, but, like, it's not like you didn't
Steve:know that already. And it's not like Blair hasn't.
Steve:Wasn't just as nasty to you in person.
Leif:Like, so we do learn that Penelope has a shrine to
Leif:Nate.
Steve:Yeah.
Leif:Which, of course, Cotty has some issues with
Leif:excess hair. Mm.
Steve:Mm.
Leif:And Jessica went commando to her communion.
Steve:To her communion. Yes. Which means she was in,
Steve:like, eighth grade or sixth grade. Like, gross.
Leif:Now, did she do it? Well, ask Alice this, but did
Leif:she do it because she was trying to be sultry or
Leif:just because she was forgot? She's kind of
Leif:airheaded. Yeah, the character is airheaded. Chuck
Leif:fails to stop a drunken Dan from confronting Blair
Leif:about his many grievances. Chuck and Louie also
Leif:show up, and Blair asks Louie to handle them. and
Leif:he escorts Chuck and Dan out.
Steve:Yeah. And, Which Chuck was there to do in the
Steve:first place. And also, like, God damn it, Dan.
Steve:Just way to screw yourself over. When Blair is
Steve:sitting there, like, finally, someone who's not
Steve:mad at me. Thank you, Dan. And he's like, wait a
Steve:second.
Leif:I love this scene.
Steve:I did, too. I did, too. But it's like, dan, you
Steve:fucking idiot.
Leif:Blair confronts Serena about the Gossip Girl list
Leif:being on her computer. Blair says Sarita
Leif:intentionally sabotaged her night and Lily was
Leif:right about her. Serena protests and says she
Leif:tried to stop the list from getting out. Serena
Leif:thinks it must have been Diana. She thinks that
Leif:because only Serena, Diana, Nate, and Louis knew
Leif:about it.
Steve:So I thought this was one of those moments where
Steve:the writing, the directing, and the acting all
Steve:came together masterfully. The way that Serena is.
Steve:Well, only Diana, Nate, and I knew about it. I
Steve:mean, and Louis, but. And the look on her face, it
Steve:was just like both Blake's acting of just,
Steve:obviously it can't be him, and then Leighton's
Steve:face when she looks at him. And it's a, punch in
Steve:the gut. And she knows instantly who did it. And
Steve:it was just like. I felt like it was a masterclass
Steve:in tying all of the production qualities together
Steve:in one moment right there.
Leif:And this is what Gossip Girl had to say about it.
Leif:Sorry, B. Must be hard to keep your head above
Leif:water when your prince is causing everyone around
Leif:you to drown.
Steve:Good lion, Duple. Gossip Girl.
Leif:We move into Act 5. Nate asks Diana and the
Leif:grandfather if they have been working together the
Leif:whole time. They both deny it. Diana takes the
Leif:fall for the leak, and Grandfather uses this as an
Leif:opportunity to push her out of the Spectator.
Steve:Yep. So she gets canned, and Nate is now the new,
Steve:Or did he?
Leif:No, he didn't say it yet.
Steve:He doesn't say it yet. But, yeah, she gets canned.
Steve:We know that that's Grandfather's plan because he
Steve:had said it earlier in the episode, and, yeah, he
Steve:has the out. I thought that she was going to
Steve:fight, again, like, she indicated earlier that she
Steve:was looking to fight Grandfather, and this is
Steve:where I was really, like, you're just going to
Steve:back out? Like, what's your plan here? You have
Steve:been saying over and over, you have a plan, you're
Steve:working towards something. I don't feel like
Steve:you're just going to walk away that easy.
Leif:Well, the other meta, indicator that Diana will be
Leif:back is the fact that, of course, Nate's going to
Leif:find out that she did not Leak the list.
Steve:Right.
Leif:At this point he thinks that she leaked the list.
Leif:Yeah, but she's going to. I'm sure he'll find out
Leif:that it was Lily.
Steve:Yeah. Next episode he should.
Leif:From one of the someone in the front group.
Steve:Yeah. Why isn't Blair getting married?
Leif:You see, alone in her bedroom, Max shows Ivy the
Leif:playbill. She says she can still get him the 50k
Leif:and they can go away together. But he responds
Leif:back with everything she says is a lie. She gives
Leif:him her new ring as down payment on the hush
Leif:money.
Steve:And I'll get you the rest later. How much is that
Steve:ring worth? You don't even know. You don't know
Steve:how much you just handed. That could be 50k right
Steve:there. You don't know.
Leif:She just could give him another 50k on top.
Steve:Just. Yeah, I mean which. Fair deal. Yeah, take
Steve:it, Max.
Leif:Yeah, just take it and take it.
Steve:You don't want.
Leif:That was just, you know, that's like just a
Leif:barker. Say she's good for it.
Steve:Yeah, take it.
Leif:The money. The money. She said the money is real.
Leif:Prove it. Okay, here's. Here's fucking the ring.
Steve:Yeah.
Leif:Yeah.
Steve:She proved it. She fucking proved it. Here's here.
Steve:Here. Yeah.
Leif:And ah, we do get a full look at the cast poster
Leif:at this point. But even zooming in on a high res
Leif:screen screen grab, all I can really tell is the
Leif:person is blonde and most likely female
Leif:presenting. But I'm not even 100% sure on that.
Steve:Yeah.
Leif:Because it's just too out of focus.
Steve:Yeah, yeah, that'd be really funny. Cece doesn't
Steve:know her own grandkids so badly that she doesn't
Steve:know that her daughter had a.
Leif:Had a boy or Charlie is a ah, kind of neutral
Leif:name.
Steve:Yeah, yeah.
Leif:They could be taking.
Steve:Yeah. Yes. I mean I've always said that, you know,
Steve:Bailey lucked out being born with a gender neutral
Steve:name.
Leif:Chuck finds Dan spiraling on a random New York
Leif:stoop. He finally realizes that Dan is in love
Leif:with Blair as well. Chuck says Blair follows her
Leif:heart and they both lost, but at least they are on
Leif:the outside together. Chuck helps Dan up off the
Leif:stoop.
Steve:You're really going to make me do this? You're
Steve:really going to make me sit on a stoop. This was a
Steve:great Chuck Dan scene. I loved it.
Leif:You know, in a post heated rivalries world, this
Leif:episode would have ended very differently. Yes,
Leif:Blair kind of cockblocked there at the end. Blair
Leif:confronts Louie about leaking the list. Louis
Leif:tries to turn it back on Blair because He read
Leif:about Chuck and Blair going to the theater
Leif:together. She turns it back on him when she
Leif:reveals it was Beatrice who sent out the blast
Leif:about her paternity test. Blair tells Louis to
Leif:leave because she needs time alone to rethink the
Leif:relationship.
Steve:Yeah, fuck off, Louie.
Leif:Bye. Bye.
Steve:Blair's greatest point here. Why didn't you. You
Steve:could have come to talk to me. You could have
Steve:shown me you didn't need to ruin our shower. Yeah,
Steve:you could have just been like, hey, Blair, this is
Steve:how much your friends hate you. Then you would
Steve:have won, Lily. So good thing you did the dickhead
Steve:thing. I also want to point out that throughout
Steve:this whole episode, they also never mention the
Steve:pregnancy at all. And I just kind of imagined it
Steve:going the way of college. I just stopped talking
Steve:about it more than it ever happened.
Leif:That'd be nice. This is what Gossip Girl says as
Leif:we go to the final break. Guess this shower's
Leif:officially over. It looks like Bea's the one
Leif:throwing in the towel. We move into the epilogue.
Leif:Serena and Blair are alone after the party, eating
Leif:cake and doing some bonding. Blair is worried
Leif:about Louie self destructing the relationship.
Leif:Blair asks Serena not to tell anyone Louis leaked
Leif:the list. Blair is shocked when Serena tells her
Leif:that Chuck only showed up to stop Dan from ruining
Leif:the party.
Steve:Yeah. So leave it alone, Blair. Yeah, he's
Steve:actually doing some.
Leif:You really need to go over there in the middle of
Leif:the night.
Steve:Yeah, he's actually been doing good things lately.
Steve:When he's not around you. Leave it alone.
Leif:This season really has a really a weird thing
Leif:about. They're clearly showing. Being around Blair
Leif:makes you bad.
Steve:Yeah. Yeah. Yes. Yeah.
Leif:The grandfather says he's going to continue
Leif:investing in the paper and names Nate the new
Leif:editor in chief. Because he's earned it.
Steve:He sure has.
Leif:They smugly look on as that peasant Diana is
Leif:packing her things in the next room.
Steve:M sure earned it. Nate, you earned this job by
Steve:your grandfather already buying the company,
Steve:installing the person that he wanted to have you.
Steve:We have reillability. Your image earned it.
Leif:I literally laughed out loud. Even I've seen this
Leif:episode multiple times.
Steve:Uhhuh.
Steve:Uhhuh.
Leif:Serena returns to the Waldorf apartment to find
Leif:Max creepily waiting in the shadows for her. He
Leif:begs her to forgive him for standing him up, which
Leif:she does.
Steve:Max, you and Serena, it's not your fault. You
Steve:don't know.
Leif:Why did he even go into the whole begging thing?
Leif:Why did he just tell the truth? That. That Diana
Leif:lady told me that you were inside and come find
Leif:you And I couldn't find you.
Steve:Yeah.
Leif:I didn't stand you up.
Steve:Yeah.
Leif:I was there. Yeah.
Steve:Like, the truth was actually, like, a better
Steve:avenue.
Leif:I mean, he can omit the whole thing about kissing
Leif:her cousin.
Steve:Yeah.
Leif:But.
Steve:Yeah. Ah. I went looking for you and could not
Steve:find you in there because that crazy lady you work
Steve:for.
Leif:But also, let's add the doorman to the shittiest
Leif:system column for letting this random person into
Leif:the Walrus apartment.
Steve:Right. Yeah.
Leif:Like, he could have just murdered them all.
Steve:Yeah.
Leif:When they came up.
Steve:Yeah. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Just, the penthouse button
Steve:on the elevator there. Go on up.
Leif:They do that.
Steve:Like, how often does that happen? They just, like,
Steve:let people into the apartment.
Leif:Usually it's the least plausible. Like it's
Leif:someone that's been there before.
Steve:It's one of the friends.
Leif:This is a completely unknown person to the
Leif:Waldorfs.
Steve:Yes.
Leif:He's never been there before.
Steve:Yeah. No, no, no. I'm just friends with them.
Leif:Sure. Wait, the lobby. Diana calls the grandfather
Leif:and explains she took the fall so Nate wouldn't
Leif:find out her secret. But if she goes down, William
Leif:goes down with her.
Steve:Yeah. So the feeling of this secret having
Steve:something to do with Chuck. Because they've set
Steve:that up, right? They've set up the. She's in
Steve:Bart's file. Chuck recognizes her, but doesn't
Steve:recognize her. We have these, like, weird. Like,
Steve:maybe she's Chuck mom. Chuck's mom thing. So why
Steve:is grandfather now also tied up in whatever she's
Steve:doing? Which. That's what's weird to me. That.
Leif:Well, I mean, what other reasons could she be in
Leif:Bart's folder? What other kind of things was Bart
Leif:involved?
Steve:I mean, Bart was Bart. The whole murder of them.
Steve:Of the step. Of. Of the mom. Right. Of Chuck's
Steve:mom. The. Not that he was directly. Oh, no, no,
Steve:I'm sorry. Not the mom. The,
Leif:You, being the. The fire, even.
Steve:The fire. Yeah, yeah. Reina's mom and all that
Steve:stuff, which we know.
Leif:Everyone in this inner circle already knows that.
Steve:Yeah, that's. And that's vindicate. He's
Steve:vindicated to that. I mean, the private
Steve:investigators. I mean, she could be somehow
Steve:connected to the private investigators because he.
Steve:All. He had people.
Leif:What other organization was Bart involved in?
Steve:Their organization. He did the. He was a realtor.
Leif:More on the seedy side.
Steve:Oh, wait a second.
Leif:There was season two.
Steve:Yeah, there was that. What was that? It was so
Steve:long ago.
Leif:The Eyes Wide Shut episodes.
Steve:Yeah.
Leif:With the escort and the.
Steve:Right.
Steve:Right.
Leif:Secret gentleman society.
Steve:Yes.
Leif:bar was Involved in. Carter was involved it.
Steve:Right.
Leif:Possibly grandfather.
Steve:Possibly grandfather. That would make sense for
Steve:grandfather as well. Yeah, absolutely. Oh, so
Steve:maybe she's like a former, like, Eyes Wide Shut
Steve:prostitute from that organization. Yeah, I
Steve:remember now. God, that was such a dumb episode.
Leif:Two episodes. Two episodes.
Steve:Yeah, two dumb episodes.
Leif:Well, Chuck was off doing that while everyone else
Leif:was like, we had the play with. With the rest of
Leif:the people in the one episode, and then I forgot
Leif:what they did in the other episode. Max leaves a
Leif:voicemail for Ivy that his payoff number just went
Leif:from 50,000 to 500,000.
Steve:On a voicemail?
Leif:Yes, on a voicemail.
Steve:Good job.
Leif:So Ivy just needs to go to find Max in person. If
Leif:he delivers my secret, I'm just going to take this
Leif:to the cops.
Steve:Yeah. Yeah.
Leif:And while her crime, I went into chat gbt&c and
Leif:also talked to an unnamed lawyer friend about
Leif:which is the worst crime. And while Ivy's crime is
Leif:worse, they are both felonies worth serious jail
Leif:time.
Steve:And there is one little piece of nuance that from
Steve:the chatgpt question and from our friend's
Steve:response, one little nuance that wasn't in there
Steve:is the fact that Charlie, for one, she is also
Steve:blackmailing someone herself. She is also
Steve:blackmailing Carol. That that's how she hasn't
Steve:been outed by Carol is because it's the same sort
Steve:of.
Leif:I'm necessarily blackmailing. That's just pointing
Leif:out the mutual destruction.
Steve:Right. But because of that, she's almost kind of
Steve:doing this with the permission of Carol. So, the
Steve:person who she.
Leif:The only person that can really give that
Leif:permission would be Charlotte. She is an adult
Leif:now, Right?
Steve:Yeah. And again, we don't know the kind of control
Steve:that Carol has over Charlotte, that she could get
Steve:Charlotte on board. I feel like there are avenues
Steve:still for Charlie to get out of this with Carol's
Steve:cooperation. Right. But, Max, you're just leaving
Steve:voicemails saying, I'm, blackmailing you for 500
Steve:grand. And so, yeah, I think that Charlie is in
Steve:line for a more serious sentence should they get
Steve:charged. I feel like Charlie also has a more
Steve:feasible way out of this than Max.
Leif:not really.
Steve:Or she has to kill him. Is it time that someone on
Steve:Gossip Girl finally kills someone? It's. They've.
Steve:They've.
Leif:Besides Bart.
Steve:Besides Bart, which, of course, he,
Leif:I mean, I guess it was actually, What's the name?
Leif:Russell.
Steve:Yeah. Yeah. Russell has actually murdered somebody
Steve:and was ready to murder Blair. You know, tried to
Steve:attempted murder on Blair.
Leif:Murder, suicide.
Steve:Yeah. And Then the closest other murder that we
Steve:had was Juliet, when she was like, I'm gonna
Steve:handle Serena once and
Leif:for all by talking to her.
Steve:By talking to her before I kill her. And then my
Steve:monologuing will save both of us.
Leif:Diana looks longingly at the Spectator flag as her
Leif:limo gets ready to pull away.
Steve:Yeah. See ya. Ta.
Leif:ta for now.
Steve:Yep.
Leif:Chuck helps Dan onto the couch at the Empire
Leif:Suite, and he immediately passes out. When Chuck
Leif:turns around, he is surprised to see Blair there.
Leif:She says she knows he's been good this whole time.
Steve:So what?
Steve:Blair, go home.
Steve:Go home?
Steve:Why?
Steve:I was so annoyed by that. Like, oh, you're good,
Steve:and you've been good this whole time. I'm going to
Steve:come over right now to let you know I know. A
Steve:text, Blair. This could have been a text.
Leif:And this is how Gossip Girl ends the episode.
Leif:Loyal readers, I'd like to apologize to all of you
Leif:for the awful and embarrassing breach of security
Leif:that happened tonight. In bad times like this, you
Leif:have many options. You can choose to go on the
Leif:offensive and come out swinging, or you can pack
Leif:your bags and admit defeat, or you can drink
Leif:yourself into oblivion and hope it will all just
Leif:go away. Whatever I choose to do to win back your
Leif:trust, one thing is certain. This is not the end
Leif:between us. Because try as you might to fight it,
Leif:you know you love me. Xo. Xo Gossip Girl. that is
Leif:our episode. What is coming next?
Steve:For one, we're going to see the, We're going to
Steve:whatever. Blair.
Leif:Are, Blair and Chuck in a bag with Dan right in
Leif:the next room?
Steve:I don't think so. I think Chuck in his I'm trying
Steve:to actually be good thing is going to be, like,
Steve:come back with cooler heads. I would really like
Steve:that. I would hope that that's the angle Chuck
Steve:goes with, because I also think that Chuck knowing
Steve:that Dan is in love with Blair, and Chuck actually
Steve:being friends with Dan now, because I. We, didn't
Steve:even address how he said to Dan this time you have
Steve:someone on the outside with you. That's the most
Steve:kind thing Chuck has said to anybody in this show
Steve:so far. Like, you have somebody with you? yeah,
Steve:it's super sad, but he's like, now you have, like,
Steve:you have a friend to go through this with. That
Steve:is, like, seriously next level kindness from
Steve:Chuck. The most we've seen from him. And so I
Steve:don't think that that would lead him to go through
Steve:with it. In fact, I think, if anything, he might
Steve:be like, Blair and I are bad news. I'm going to
Steve:push Dan and Blair. I could see Chuck kind of
Steve:helping that and fostering that. We're going to
Steve:see Nate run a company. Yes.
Leif:glorious Nate.
Steve:Yeah. Oh, Nate, with your sharp wit and fantastic
Steve:intuition. So that's going to be fun. Something's
Steve:got to happen with this baby. There's still a baby
Steve:floating around that needs to be born or otherwise
Steve:taken care of. God, I hate sounding like that.
Steve:It's an imaginary baby. It's not a real baby,
Steve:folks.
Leif:Don Cheadle in, endgame breaking the baby that is
Leif:his neck.
Steve:The Seder glasses. firstborn of death.
Leif:Now, were they specifically babies or are they
Leif:just the firstborn? Regards of age?
Steve:It was the firstborn. Well, I guess it was
Steve:regardless of age, but it's kind of associated
Steve:with babies. And the glasses were that I. We had
Steve:for reference, we hosted a, passover seder. And my
Steve:wife got glasses that represented the 10 plagues.
Steve:And one of the plagues, as you may know, is the
Steve:death of the firstborn. And let me just say that
Steve:the dead baby glasses were quite horrifying. They
Steve:looked so peaceful. I should post them in the. In
Steve:the discord for. For frame of reference.
Leif:Any other predictions?
Steve:Someone's deleting us for all this talk about dead
Steve:babies. Oh, something coming out about the
Steve:relationship between Bart and Diana.
Leif:Yeah, Diana. Secrets got to come out.
Steve:Yeah, Diana's secret has to come out. and that's
Steve:going to get in there. And I think there's going
Steve:to be a Bart grandfather something going on there.
Steve:And I don't think this wedding's going to happen.
Steve:I don't think. Louis gone. Louie's not gone, is
Steve:he? You would tell me if he was gone.
Leif:Hugo Becker is not. He will be seen again.
Steve:Hugo Becker will be back as Louis twin brother.
Leif:Twin brother Louis.
Steve:Louis, who's like his long lost American twin who
Steve:now also has right to ascendancy. But they have to
Steve:dub his accent.
Leif:Or you could just whisper like Ed or just whisper.
Leif:Blair,
Steve:I am Louie's long lost brother.
Leif:Let's get into segments. Hello there, Peabody
Leif:here. And this is the wayback machine for
Leif:traveling through time. And this is my boy,
Leif:Sherman Speak chairman. Hello.
Steve:Good boy.
Leif:This week in fan and we jumped into the wayback
Leif:machine that traveled to the fan forums from 2011.
Leif:The overall impression. Most people seem to like
Leif:the episode.
Steve:Yeah, it was a good episode.
Leif:They loved the Chuck and Dan scenes.
Steve:Yep.
Leif:Louie needs to leave Chuck. Blair. Dan is the real
Leif:triangle.
Steve:Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes.
Leif:Drunk Dan was hilarious.
Steve:He was funny. I just didn't think he's. He didn't
Steve:play. I didn't think he played drunk very well,
Steve:but I thought he was effective in what he was
Steve:doing.
Leif:A lot of back and forth on how deep Blair's
Leif:friendship with Dan is.
Steve:Yeah, I feel like they're the kind of friends that
Steve:when they're together, they're the best of
Steve:friends. And when they're apart, she doesn't think
Steve:much about it. I think that he thinks a lot about
Steve:her, but she doesn't think a lot about him when
Steve:they're not around each other.
Leif:I mean, she said earlier this season that she went
Leif:to him because she knew he would stop her from
Leif:giving it to her worst instincts.
Steve:Yeah. And she does. I think she does love him in
Steve:that friend way. I think she has feelings for him
Steve:that she doesn't like having.
Leif:I don't know if you watched her face much in their
Leif:conversation. It was kind of interesting how she
Steve:went from like, oh, she kind of,
Leif:like, took it to heart. It seemed like, yeah,
Leif:maybe I haven't been the best friend.
Steve:Yeah, yeah, yeah, I did pick up on that.
Leif:Let's get into episode grades. You went first last
Leif:time, so I am going first this week. Yeah. So
Leif:much, much better episode, Much better episode
Leif:than last week. Directing was good, Dialogue was
Leif:good. A lot of funny scenes with Dan and Chuck.
Leif:Didn't like some of the overall stuff, as we've
Leif:said, but that's kind of not really, I don't take
Leif:that against the individual episode. so I ended up
Leif:with a
Steve:B. Yeah, I'm right with you. I thought. I loved
Steve:the interactions that we had with the non judging
Steve:breakfast Club when we had them. I really loved.
Steve:I. I really like Serena this season so far, and I
Steve:know I missed talking about her speech when it
Steve:happened, but the. Just the way that she. And she
Steve:handled Blair this whole episode, like the best
Steve:friend that she wanted to be. So there were. There
Steve:was. And yeah, overall I did. I'm with you that
Steve:this was a, a B episode. One of the better ones
Steve:this season for sure.
Leif:On to Stockwatch. Going up. I have Serena for
Leif:planting a great, shower. I had Nate going up for
Leif:earning his right to be editor in chief. I had
Leif:Chuck for continuing to be a good guy, helping out
Leif:Dan and being a good friend of Dan, supporting
Leif:him, taking care of him. I had Max going up
Leif:because he's looks like he's going to get some
Leif:$500,000 because Ivy's too stupid to go
Steve:back and reverse Blackmail him.
Leif:And I had the grandfather going up because he
Leif:accomplished, his goal of getting Nate as editor
Leif:in chief.
Steve:Yes.
Leif:Who do you have going up?
Steve:So I had all of those. All the same people for
Steve:one. I had Nate forgetting the company. I had
Steve:Chuck for being a good friend, Serena for planning
Steve:a great party, grandfather for whatever
Steve:shenanigans he's pulling, they're going in the way
Steve:he wants. Max, being on the upper hand of this,
Steve:for right now, anyway, the other one, because he
Steve:was mentioned and I love him and miss him. Eric.
Leif:I was thinking about it, but he didn't really do
Leif:anything.
Steve:Well, he did get them in touch with Jonathan who
Steve:did expose goth's Gossip Girl. But Jonathan's a
Steve:dick, so I don't really care as much about him.
Leif:And, exposing Gossip Girl is not. It wasn't really
Leif:exposing gossip. It was exposing everyone else.
Steve:Yeah, yeah.
Leif:It was like.
Steve:Yeah, but still, I love Eric.
Leif:Sure.
Steve:And I miss him.
Leif:Anyone else?
Steve:That's it for going up.
Leif:Going down for me. I had Dan because he was just a
Leif:sad sack again. I had Blair going down because it
Leif:looks like her marriage is breaking up
Steve:before it even happened.
Leif:I had Ivy slash Charlie going down because she's
Leif:being blackmailed on the ropes again. I had Louie
Leif:going down because he was fucking a jackass.
Leif:Abusive douchebag. M. I had Diana going down
Leif:because she lost her job.
Steve:Yep. You suck.
Leif:And the Waldorf dorman under the assistant Cobb
Leif:going down.
Steve:Yes. Yeah, I believe I am right in line with you.
Steve:I'm trying m to think if there was anyone else,
Steve:specifically Dan Blair.
Leif:Ivy.
Steve:Yeah, Dan Blair, Ivy, Louie and the doorman. And,
Steve:the dog of the doorman too. Because the assistants
Steve:on this show need to learn a thing or two. And
Steve:yeah, I think that is. Oh, no, the other one
Steve:that's going down. We've never done this before
Steve:Gossip Girl because Gossip Girl was put kind of on
Steve:the ropes as well.
Leif:She got hacked. That's fair enough.
Steve:She got hacked. And I don't think we have ever
Steve:awarded her stock one way or another.
Leif:I don't think we have before.
Steve:And so interesting. Yes, Gossip Girl has entered
Steve:this. Gossip Girl has now gained a portfolio and
Steve:it's in the negative. But here's the best outfits
Steve:from the
Steve:last episode we see.
Leif:On to best outfits for me. Not. It was not a great
Leif:episode. Blair's orange Alpha was horrible.
Leif:Sprita's. Okay. I just didn't like the wings thing
Leif:she had going on. like her dress. You know what
Leif:I'M talking about.
Steve:Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Leif:So I actually ended up giving it to Chuck with his
Leif:three piece gray suit had light blue accent
Leif:stitching paired with a lavender striped shirt and
Leif:a tie with light blue accents. Also had matching
Leif:pocket square and boutonniere along with brown
Leif:patent leather shoes.
Steve:Yeah, he was sharp. however I was also annoyed by
Steve:the wings on it. But the rest of the print on
Steve:Serena's dress and the way that it just I thought
Steve:that I loved it so I gave it to Serena. Even
Steve:despite the weird wings.
Leif:That is it for segments. Do you have anything you
Leif:would like to plug?
Steve:So I've talked a lot about reading the audiobooks
Steve:for Dungeon Crawler Carl. I'm now reading one of
Steve:Matt Dinnaman, the author. I'm reading his latest
Steve:book Operation Bounce House, which is not related
Steve:to those books, but it's still sort of a sci fi
Steve:RPG kind of book. and I highly recommend it. I'm m
Steve:about halfway through and I've been really
Steve:enjoying the book so far, but I'm eye reading
Steve:that.
Leif:okay. And I am going to recommend the YouTube
Leif:channel. Josh Turner Guitar this young man has
Leif:over 10 years of music, on his channel. a lot of
Leif:COVID songs, some original, him and his very
Leif:talented friends. looks like from his older videos
Leif:started like about he's probably like 16, 17, but
Leif:it's been, he's got over 10 years of it going on.
Steve:Nice.
Leif:so really fun channel. Josh Turner Guitar and if
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Leif:And we'll be back next week to talk about season
Leif:five, episode nine titled Rhodes to Perdition.
Steve:Loved it.
Leif:Spelled like the name of.
Steve:Yeah.
Leif:The. The last name.
Steve:Yeah.
Leif:And the CDCW episode description reads, Lily,
Leif:Charlie, and Serena eagerly, anticipate the Studio
Leif:54 party being thrown in CC's honor. Nate takes on
Leif:a new role at the Spectator. But his first big
Leif:story turns out to be about someone he knows all
Leif:too well.
Steve:Oh, Jesus Christ.
Leif:Until next time. You know you love us.
Steve:XOXO Every time you walk away, run
Steve:away you take a piece of me with you there Every
Steve:time you walk away, run away you take a piece of
Steve:me with you there Every time you walk away or run
Steve:away you take a piece of me with you there oh, it
Steve:seems I'm walking right to your door my heart's
Steve:still resting
Steve:looking for something more
Steve:are you ever gonna see everything you mean to me?
Steve:I'm trying really hard to believe Every time you
Steve:walk away or run away you take a piece of me with
Steve:you there Every time you walk away or run away you
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Steve:my own I left last night and it feels like way too
Steve:long m Are you ever gonna see everything you mean
Steve:to me?
Steve:I'm trying really hard to believe
Steve:every time you walk away, run away you take a
Steve:piece of meat with you there Every time you walk
Steve:away, run away you take a piece of me you with you
Steve:there Every time you walk away or run away you
Steve:take a piece of me with you there come back to me,
Steve:smile and you'll make my life complete Every time
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Steve:with you there Every time you walk away or run
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Steve:you there.