00:00 Introduction and Greetings
00:08 Birthday Shoutouts and Anniversaries
01:10 Christmas Tree and Holiday Traditions
03:44 Rat Infestation Stories
05:54 Daily Bible Reading: Mark Chapter 13
07:28 Discussion on the End Times and Rapture Predictions
09:54 The Importance of Community in Theology
10:12 Trusting Your Church Leadership
10:51 The Role of Community Groups
11:57 The Gospel and Modern Technology
13:11 Understanding the Abomination of Desolation
17:23 The Mystery of Jesus' Knowledge
19:35 The Kenosis of Jesus Explained
22:37 Conclusion and Prayer
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Hey everybody.
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:Welcome back to another edition
of the Daily Bible Podcast.
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:Hello, Thursday.
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:It is Thursday, Thursday, November 6th.
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:It is, yeah.
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:It's a couple people's birthday today.
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:It is a few people's birthday today.
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:Mm-hmm.
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:Yep.
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:Anybody that you wanted to
shout out in particular?
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:The first time I see here on my
calendar is Heather Pace, which
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:I don't think she listens, but.
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:It's Dr.
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:Lucas Pace's wife from Compass Bible
Church av, and also this guy that does
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:hands our church pretty regularly.
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:I see Jeff Mooch.
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:It's his birthday today as well.
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:It is.
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:It's also the Laverdes anniversary today.
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:Happy anniversary Lavertis.
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:Man, we, a couple years ago, if you've
been an OG with the podcast, we called
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:out birthdays pretty much every day.
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:Yeah, we did.
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:We don't do that so much anymore.
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:There's too many of you guys.
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:There's a lot.
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:Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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:But we do miss it.
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:I do think about it all the time.
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:When I see someone's birthday, I'm
like, oh, it'd be fun to shout them out.
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:But I'm like, we'd be doing that.
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:All the time it would be every podcast.
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:So we appreciate you guys.
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:We think about you we see your
birthdays pop up and we think
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:happy thoughts about you.
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:We do think happy thoughts about you.
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:Yeah.
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:Most of you anyway.
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:I guess there's some probably, no,
not everybody, but most of you care
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:to share any names on that one.
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:I'm just kidding.
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:I didn't really have anybody in mind,
but I thought it'd be funny to say that.
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:Yeah.
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:Yeah, man.
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:So I set up my Christmas tree.
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:It is up.
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:I noticed that.
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:Yeah, like October 15th is what?
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:The date stamp that I saw?
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:Well, that's an incorrect date stamp.
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:Oh, okay.
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:It was it was actually
Monday, so of this month.
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:Monday.
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:Wow.
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:That's really early.
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:You know, I heard you and Pastor
Mark arguing about Christmas music.
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:Yes.
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:And he argued to keep it sacred and
special, and you're like, you know what?
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:All days are alike.
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:Doesn't matter which day it is.
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:I know that you don't.
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:You do it whenever you want.
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:I don't know.
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:I know that you don't buy that because
you listened to Christmas music in July.
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:You know, I used to.
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:And I think I'm changing in my
older age I feel like there's, and
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:here's the thing, I'm torn because
I have to listen to it early.
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:Yeah.
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:'cause I'm preparing for Christmas.
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:Right.
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:So I've been listening to it
already thinking, okay, what
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:songs are we gonna try to do?
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:But I, I do like the idea of saying
for this season, however long it
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:is, and for everyone it's different.
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:I'm gonna reserve it.
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:I wanna keep it special.
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:Yeah.
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:And enjoy those things when the
season makes the most sense.
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:So I'm not dogmatic about it,
but I do think there is something
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:special about keeping it special.
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:Yeah.
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:Well, we are fake tree people now.
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:And so because of that, I
remember, I remember that this
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:is a really new development.
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:It is.
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:Because of that, we decided to
grab the tree out of our attic.
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:Wow.
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:And we're gonna do it in stages.
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:We don't have all the ornaments up,
but we, I thought you meant the tree.
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:No.
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:Like we've only got the base up right now.
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:The base.
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:Yeah.
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:No, but one of my favorite things is
coffee By, in, in my Bible reading.
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:Yeah.
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:With the tree lit in the mornings, and
I wanna extend that as long as I can.
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:Oh.
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:And so keeping it up until March.
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:No.
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:After Christmas, I'm
like, let's take it down.
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:Oh, wow.
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:But beforehand, the anticipation
of it, I like having it up there.
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:The difference though with a
fake tree is pretty palpable.
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:It's.
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:Because it doesn't smell the same.
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:Yeah, that's true.
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:Even the way that it
affects the air around it.
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:I noticed that somehow or another,
the tree, because it either
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:absorbs heat or absorbs cold.
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:I forget how it works, but it also creates
a vacuum of cold air wherever it's nearby.
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:I remember this 'cause the last time we
had a real tree was back in California
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:and the tree made our downstairs
colder than what it would normally be.
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:I don't know how that works, but I
do know that that's what happened.
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:The smell amazing.
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:Worth every bit of heating
that we had to pay.
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:And in California rates, that's
a lot if you get a good one.
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:But sometimes they're hit and miss.
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:Like sometimes you get a tree
that is just not as potent.
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:It's not as aromatic.
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:That's true.
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:I think there's certain breeds of tree
that are especially Yeah, aromatic.
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:And I don't know what they are.
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:Maybe you guys can let us know 'cause.
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:Well, you know what?
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:No.
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:'cause we're not gonna get one.
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:We have a fake tree.
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:We've been doing it, although
this year I will say there
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:are rat holes in our tree box.
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:Oh.
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:So I'm not sure I wanna open it.
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:I might let the kids do it.
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:I'll let them figure it out.
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:Dude, I had to kill multiple rats so far.
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:Have you?
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:Yes.
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:It's awful.
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:It's awful.
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:So here's the thing, we had this
rat showing up in our garage.
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:Yeah.
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:And Kristen's like, Hey,
there's a rat there.
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:Like, okay, let's get this thing out.
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:And I walked out into the garage.
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:I saw him run and scurry.
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:I'm like, perfect.
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:Let me get this guy outta here.
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:So we found him, we
caught him in a dust bin.
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:Is that what that's called?
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:Sure.
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:Dust bin.
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:And then I let him out in the field.
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:Great.
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:He lives, he's happy so long.
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:But then I thought, you know what?
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:I can't have rats in my garage.
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:'cause then they end up in the house
and that's just bad news altogether.
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:Yeah.
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:So I put sticky traps next to
the holes in the garage door.
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:Each side had a rat that same day.
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:Oof.
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:Can you believe that?
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:That's crazy.
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:And so these poor guys
were moving and wiggling.
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:So I folded them up into the rat
sticky trap enough where their
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:whole body was covered by this
thing and I disposed of them.
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:I didn't throw them away first.
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:I killed them first.
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:Yeah.
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:And then I disposed of them.
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:Didn't it involve like a five
gallon bucket of water or anything?
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:No, I did think about it.
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:'cause I was thinking,
what's the most humane way?
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:To kill these guys.
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:So there's as minimal
suffering as possible.
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:And I didn't wanna drown them.
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:We're not gonna call Kelly out.
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:That would be unkind.
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:But drowning a rat does not seem like the.
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:The best way to do it.
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:We're not gonna call Kelly out.
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:That's not fair.
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:That's, yeah.
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:She has no way to respond.
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:So let's not call Kelly out.
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:Which Kelly are we calling out?
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:We're not gonna call Kelly Smith out.
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:Okay.
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:She's not helpful.
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:That's not, no, we don't want
people to know this about her.
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:No, but I took a bat and I Okay.
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:I disposed of them both.
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:Yeah.
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:And so I made sure.
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:Yeah.
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:Which was not fun.
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:Yeah.
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:I made sure and then I put
them in the trash and now we
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:have two more sticky traps up.
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:And so far today we haven't had any,
but man they've been coming out.
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:Yeah.
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:There's a lot of them.
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:And as the weather turns, this is the
time of year that they try to find
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:shelter that's warm, and so they're
gonna be seeking houses and, yep, yep.
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:Yeah, I don't think, yeah, I don't
know about rats in the new Earth.
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:Maybe they won't in invest
our houses or our dwellings,
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:whatever those happen to be.
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:Right.
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:Maybe they'll play nice with them.
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:Yeah.
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:Who knows?
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:Yeah.
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:Well, I know you mentioned your neighbor
behind you having their tree up, so I just
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:thought, you know, I'll try to compete.
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:I'll try to, do you remember the date?
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:I think it was early October.
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:It was early.
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:Yeah, it was like the
first week of October.
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:Yeah.
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:I should put it in my
calendar and find out.
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:When they did it, he was ambitious.
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:For sure.
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:Well, let's get into our DBR today.
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:We have a long reading one
chapter today, in fact, the next
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:handful of days, only one chapter.
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:So, maybe a good time to
jump in and read some more.
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:If you've got an epistle, maybe you
wanna read first Peter through as we're
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:studying that together on Sunday mornings.
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:Be a great time to do that.
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:Dive in and read a little
bit more there, but yeah.
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:Mark Chapter 13 is a lot of the same
ground that we just covered yesterday in
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:Luke chapter 20 and 21, specifically 21.
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:You're gonna get the prediction
of the destruction of the temple
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:again, 70 ad I think there is
the initial fulfillment of that.
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:And then you're gonna get him
talking about the signs of the
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:times, the signs in the end.
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:And this is brought on by the.
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:The comment about the destruction
of the temple the disciples
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:wanna know when this is gonna be.
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:And so he then says, you know what?
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:Don't be taken captive by some people
that say it's happened already.
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:But watch the watch for the signs.
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:Watch for the things that
are gonna take place.
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:And like we talked about
yesterday, there's gonna be a
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:lot of things that we've already
seen, that we still see today.
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:So we might be tempted to read a
chapter like this and go, okay the wars,
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:the famines, the earthquakes, we're
seeing all these things take place.
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:So it must be that Jesus
could come back at any second.
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:And yeah, he could come
back at any second.
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:But Jesus is also clear here
to say this is not the end yet.
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:This is the beginning of the birth pains.
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:So the creation, Romans eight, groaning.
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:This is creation in labor, so to
speak, to, to produce the end.
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:And this is a weird twist on childbirth
because you don't often think of the
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:end in a or a baby's birth in a bad way.
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:But this is the end in the
judgment that's gonna come.
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:And the second coming of Christ
for the church, for Christ's a
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:good thing, but for the rest of
the world, a bad thing for sure.
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:It wasn't too long ago that we had
a lot of people saying the Rapture's
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:next Tuesday at 4:00 PM or whatever it
was, these people were really sincere.
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:Explain this and explain what our response
should be when we see these things.
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:I saw it all over my ex feed.
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:I saw it on TikTok.
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:I saw people posting it on Instagram,
doing their stories, and people
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:were I chuckled a little bit.
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:I made fun of them a
little bit in my heart.
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:'cause I said, Jesus told
us that no one knows.
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:But these guys and some girls
were very adamant hits coming.
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:And you saw their sincerity there.
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:There was a clear passion for.
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:The gospel, like Jesus is coming back.
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:You know, you gotta be ready.
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:Are you ready to meet your maker?
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:People that were giving
in passion, please.
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:So put that context on top of this
passage here and help us to figure
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:out how to respond when the next
batch of people say the rapture is
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:next week or next month or whatever.
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:Yeah, I think there's two categories here
of those people that we're doing that.
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:The category one are those that
were influenced by somebody who
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:said that, some teacher who said
that and they bought into it.
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:And so they are impressionable.
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:They are maybe not overly discerning
and they bought into it, and so they
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:were swept up to then go and perpetuate
the same thing, to jump on social
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:media to say, Hey, this is happening.
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:The rapture's coming, and I think this,
all the signs are there and so this person
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:said this, so I think they're right.
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:And so you need to be ready.
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:Here's the rapture's coming.
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:I think I give more of
a pass to that group.
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:The other group that are
out there are those that are
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:perpetuating this to begin with.
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:The ones that are the ones
that are generating this.
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:And as goodwill as they may be towards
the urgency of getting right with Christ
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:I think part of the problem is they miss
what we read yesterday and what we're
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:gonna read again today and in verse 32
of Mark, concerning that day or hour.
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:No one knows, not even the son knows.
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:And so Jesus's mission have
questions about that too, by the way.
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:Go ahead.
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:Yeah.
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:Jesus' mission to the church
was not, hey, go and figure
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:out when I'm gonna come back.
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:Jesus' mission of the church was, be
ready for my return at any minute.
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:And while you're waiting,
go and make disciples.
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:And that's I think what these
people, well-intentioned or
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:not kind of got backwards.
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:They said, well, we will make disciples,
but really we wanna focus on when is Jesus
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:coming back and we think he's coming back.
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:Now.
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:Yeah.
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:So he says here in verse five,
see that no one leads you astray.
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:How much responsibility does a
Christian bear to make sure that
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:they're not captured by things like
the rapture or some other weird,
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:strange doctrine that emerges?
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:Paul speaks to that too, right?
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:When he talks about not being captured
by empty to sea and in philosophy.
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:How do we do that?
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:We don't know when people are telling us
the truth, and maybe we don't know our
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:Bible well enough to know for sure is.
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:Is that the right thing?
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:Right.
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:Have I been deceived all this time?
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:And that's why being a part of a good
church is such an important thing.
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:Being a part of a community.
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:We talk about doing theology and
community together all the time, that
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:we're not doing theology with our
favorite part podcast voice, that we
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:don't know this person or a YouTube
person or somebody Discord community.
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:Totally.
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:You need to trust your, the local
church that God has put you in.
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:And I would give this caveat, if you're
out there and you're going, I don't think
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:I trust the church that God has put me in,
man, that's a major red flag that needs
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:to be worked through, at minimum a meeting
with your pastors to sit down and talk
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:through things to say, Hey I'm struggling.
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:Here's my things.
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:Because you need to be in a church where
you can trust your leadership and you
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:need to be in a church where you can trust
your brothers and sisters in Christ to do
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:things like theology in concert together,
to show up at your community group and
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:say, Hey, did you guys see this reel
talking about the rapture that's gonna
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:happen and they've got a date predicted?
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:What do you think about that?
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:And to have your community group
leader and some brothers and sisters
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:in Christ say, Hey, you know what?
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:We should be ready for
it at any time, but.
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:Mark 13 says, we nobody knows the day or
hour, and so let's be reminded of that.
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:Oh, you know what?
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:That's super helpful.
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:Thanks.
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:You're right on that.
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:That's how we can be protected from
being led astray is as we do these
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:things together in community, what a
good reminder for us to be in community.
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:We should be a part of a community
group and doing life with other
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:Christians, but on top of that,
we're doing life together around.
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:Centralized around the word of God.
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:This should be part of our conversations.
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:We should be talking about this.
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:We should be memorizing and meditating
upon it because we want our conversation
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:to be word filled so that we can be
guarded against some of these errors.
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:And I do feel for it.
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:I'm with you.
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:I feel for some of these
people that have been duped by
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:people that should know better.
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:Yeah.
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:But they don't because they're
largely biblically illiterate.
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:And one of the ways that we help with that
is by talking to people about the Bible
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:and about things like this, which I know
for a lot of people is really interesting.
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:Yeah.
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:From here he does encourage us to, to be
on guard or as disciples to be on guard.
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:He makes a statement, he says, the
gospel must first be proclaimed to all
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:nations before any of this happens.
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:And so that's fascinating to even
think through the implications of that.
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:What does that look like?
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:Has that happened yet?
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:I remember being younger and kind of
not wanting Jesus to come back yet,
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:and there was some comfort to me in
that again, of going, okay, well.
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:Surely the gospel hasn't been translated
into every language out there.
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:So we got some time.
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:I'll be able to grow up and get a driver's
license first or get married or whatever.
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:Yeah.
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:But man it's interesting when you
consider the advent of social media,
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:you consider the advent of the
internet that the access, ai, ai, ai
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:translates everything really well.
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:Yeah.
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:We're not far from this being
something that's a reality.
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:Well, even then, there were people
that were arguing before the advent
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:of AI and things that are especially
helpful that the gospel had reached
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:every nation tribe and tongue.
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:That's different, right?
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:Because we still have unreached peoples,
but that the gospel had gone all across
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:the globe and that the warning that
Jesus gives, that when this happens,
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:you know that it's coming soon.
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:We should have been, we should be ready
because those things have taken place.
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:Yeah, I think there's a fair
argument to be made about that.
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:He goes on and talks about persecution
and then the scene shifts forward in
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:verse 14 when you see the abomination
of desolation standing where he ought
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:not to be, let the reader understand.
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:And then he begins to shift and talk about
again, the end times this tribulation
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:period that's taken place here.
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:Okay.
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:You gotta stop right
there and explain to us.
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:Again, slowly this time.
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:Slowly.
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:What is the, because you were saying the
abomination of desolation had something
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:to do with the Dodgers on Sunday, so
we're not sure what you mean by this.
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:Can you explain what does
verse 14 mean and did Mark
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:say, let the reader understand?
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:Did Jesus say, let the reader
understand what's happening here
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:and how do we understand this?
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:Yeah, so let's start with the
abomination of desolation.
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:We go back to actually Daniel.
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:On this one because this actually
took place under the reign of
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:Anki epiphanies the first time.
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:And that was when Anki epiphanies
sacrificed a pig on the Jewish altar
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:and also set up what many believe
was a statue of a Zeus in the temple.
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:And so this was the desecration.
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:And anytime you think desecration
you think of that, you think of
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:something that is, is brought to shame.
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:You think of something that is,
is dishonored and that's what.
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:Anti his epiphanies did
in the Jewish temple.
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:And that was the foreshadowing
of the greater reality of that,
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:which is what Mark is referring to,
what Jesus is referring to here.
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:And that is the abomination of desolation
standing where he ought not to be.
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:And so I think this is a reference
specifically to the person of the
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:antichrist who is going to come to
power during the tribulation period.
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:Now I think he's going to do an act,
and this appears to be the time that is
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:gonna be marked at the three and a half
year mark of the tribulation period.
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:Where he breaks the treaty with Israel.
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:So the first three and a half years of
the seven years of tribulation are gonna
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:be marked by peace with Israel and the
antichrist, but then this is gonna happen,
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:the abomination of desolation, whether
that's sacrificing a pig or setting up a
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:statue, declaring himself, God declaring
himself God, that is going to be the
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:moment where the antichrist severs that.
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:Truce with Israel.
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:And this is the time when that's
why Jesus goes on from here to
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:say, Hey, you guys need to flee.
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:You need to run Woe to those that
are nursery during this time.
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:This is gonna be a bad season.
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:And I think Mark is the one that
puts in the editorial comment there.
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:Let the reader understand to kind of
draw attention to the fact that, hey,
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:understand what we're, we've shifted here.
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:We're not talking about the same context.
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:This is, time that's yet in the future.
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:And so kind of pay attention to
what we're talking about here.
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:So Daniel's the first one to mention
the abomination of desolation.
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:Daniel chapter nine, I believe, and we
see it fulfilled in Antiochus epiphanies.
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:He was about one 60 something bc So this
is before Jesus Christ came on the scene.
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:There is another fulfillment in
the desecration of the temple,
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:80 70 that we're talking about.
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:Yep.
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:And we're still saying
there's another future.
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:Desecration that's coming
during the tribulation.
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:Right.
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:So there's three
fulfillments of this, right?
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:Is that right?
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:Okay.
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:So what we see then, it looks like
scripture when it gives a prophecy,
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:doesn't necessarily mean that it's only
gonna be fulfilled once, that there
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:could be recurring fulfillments of
that prophecy leading to an ultimate
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:fulfillment of that prophecy, right?
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:Yep.
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:Kind of like what we see in
some of the Isaiah passages.
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:Where for to us, a son
of a son has given to us.
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:A child is born Isaiah's son, prophesied
the prophesy of is, what's his name?
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:Maha Al Al ish.
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:That guy?
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:Yes.
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:Isaiah's son.
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:Yes.
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:He was the one who was
delivered to the virgin.
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:But we know that it
pointed to the ultimate.
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:Son delivered to a virgin, which
would of course be Jesus Christ.
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:So that makes biblical prophecy a little
more challenging than just saying, oh
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:yeah, this speaks to December 14th, 1982.
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:This is gonna happen.
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:Right?
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:And then this person's
gonna show up a lot.
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:Unlike, what's that guy who does
the prophecies that people were
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:like, oh, he does Harold Camping?
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:Well, no, not him.
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:The secular guy is,
does it start with a Z?
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:He does.
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:It's not Xtra.
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:I keep on thinking thus spoke Z Thra.
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:It's a guy that everybody knows and
they refer to this guy as being the
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:one who's doing modern day prophecies.
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:He's been debunked, but it's
He does specific prophecies.
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:Or at least more specific
than what we might be used to
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:when it comes to scripture.
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:I'm gonna look it up while you're talking.
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:Okay.
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:From here he does talk about these
signs of the times and the things that
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:are going to happen during that time.
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:If you look at verse 19 from those
No Radus Nostradamus, that was close.
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:Not a z Yeah, but it's in the
alphabet where Z is contained.
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:Z is a silent, it's ZNOS.
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:That's right.
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:Verse 19.
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:For in those days, there will be
such tribulation as has not been
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that God created until now.
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show us that we can't look in
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:history past to find an example of
this because we haven't seen this.
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:This is not yet happened.
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:He says, if the Lord had not cut
short these days for the sake of the
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:elect, the elect that he's referring
to are the tribulation, saints the
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:tribulation believers that are still
on earth during the tribulation.
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:Those that get saved after the rapture.
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:This time is gonna be
cut short for their sake.
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Hey, you need to be ready.
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:You did say you had another question
though about the statement that
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our no one no is not even the son.
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we argue ad nauseum will never
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Jesus could not know something?
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:I think this is part of his kenosis
from Philippians chapter two, which
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with the fullness of his humanity.
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:Okay, put that in layman's terms.
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:So I think this is what is kenosis?
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:This is the humanity of
Jesus that we're seeing here.
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:I think this is reference
referential to his time on earth.
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:During his life in earthly ministry.
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:I don't know that this still applies
to where he is seated at the right
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:I think now in his exalted form,
I think he's still waiting for the
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:father, but I wouldn't say that he
doesn't know the day or the hour.
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:It's possible that he's still submitting
to the father's will at this point in time
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just submissive to that, to wait for that.
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:Acknowledgement from the father
to say, now's the time to go.
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:But I would say Philippians two,
he's been given the name that's above
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:every name and he's been exalted
to the right hand of the father.
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:I think that's a restoration
of his place of full glory.
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:And I think with that comes
the dropping of that veiling.
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when he was here on Earth.
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:So we talk about Jesus being
truly God and truly, man.
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:He's both of those things simultaneously.
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:If he's never not God, is it then
that he chooses not to know something?
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:Yes.
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:Because he can't not know.
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:Right.
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:He's God.
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:Right.
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:So he has to then in some way say, I'm
just gonna not access that information.
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:Is that what you're suggesting?
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:Right.
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:Okay.
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:Because of that perfect
submission of the Father.
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:Yeah.
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:That's strange.
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:That's hard for us to conceive of,
given that we're not fully gut or.
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:Anything like that.
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:Sure.
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:We're fully man, for sure.
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:But that's really hard
to wrap your mind around.
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:But that I do think that points
to the mis, the mystery and
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:the majesty of what Jesus did.
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:Yeah.
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:It is so unique.
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:It is so beautiful, so incredible that it
is hard to understand things like this.
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:For someone who, like ourselves, who only
know what it is to be a man and not God,
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:this doesn't make sense, and that's okay.
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:It shouldn't make sense to you because
no one knows what this is like.
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:Only Jesus.
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:And so we take him at his word and
he doesn't know, but as the son
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:of God, he could figure it out.
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:Yeah.
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:He could just access that
information he just chooses not to.
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:Yeah.
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:Which, okay, the kenosis
is Philippians chapter two.
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:That's the Greek word behind
the phrase emptied himself.
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:Yeah.
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:He emptied himself out.
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:And so when people speak about the kenosis
of Jesus, we're trying to say, what
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:does that mean that he emptied himself?
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:In what sense did he empty himself?
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:In what sense did Jesus.
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:Empty himself.
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:Well, it's actually answered for us
in Philippians chapter two in that
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:same passage, because it says in
verse six, who though he was in the
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:form of God, did not count equality
with God, a thing with to be grasped.
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:But verse seven, emptied himself,
there's kenosis, and then he says
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:this by taking the form of a servant
being born in the likeness of men.
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:So it was an emptying through edition.
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:In the sense that he emptied himself by
adding full humanity to his full deity,
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:or adding true humanity is true, deity.
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:And so that's why I
used the phrase veiling.
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:He veiled the fullness of his glory
with the fullness of his humanity,
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:the trueness of his deity, with
the trueness of his humanity.
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:So taking that on as
how he emptied himself.
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:Not that he became less than God, but
that he willingly set aside some of
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:his divine prerogatives in order to
submit himself to the father's will
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:and identify with us as human beings.
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:Setting aside his divine prerogatives,
meaning he's choosing not to exercise
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:some of those attributes that he.
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:He could have, right?
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:At any point in time, he could have
said, I'm just gonna do A, B, C, and D.
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:Right.
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:He just chooses not to, which again,
we don't have a point of reference for.
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:Right.
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:I guess you could say there's a small
reference when you say, when you're
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:disciplining your kids, I'm gonna
choose to do this versus that, but
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:even that doesn't quite capture the
significance of what we're seeing here.
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:Jesus chooses not to exercise divinity in
all cases, but as one listener, astutely
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:asked us about those moments, then when
he's walking on water or when he's, yeah.
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:Reading the hearts and minds
of men, is that him accessing
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:divinity or is that simply him
resting on the power of the spirit?
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:And I think it's a mixture of both.
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:I think there's moments of his.
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:True deity on display.
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:And I think he's doing that intentionally.
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:I think he's pulling the curtain
back to reveal that if John chapter
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it says that he was manifesting his
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:glory, I think there's moments where
it's like, this is not doing this.
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:So that when you're at home, if you
rely on the spirit enough, you're gonna
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:be able to turn your water to wine.
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:I was trying this weekend.
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:Yeah, it did not work.
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:But I'm doing this to show you
that I'm Lord Over creation.
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:I'm doing this to show you who I am.
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:Exactly.
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:Okay.
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:Yeah.
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:Maybe it's like if Michael Jordan
during his prime were to go play
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:basketball with you, and he was like,
okay, I'll play one-on-one with you,
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:but I'm not gonna dunk and I'm gonna
shoot with my left hand and I'm going
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:to, you know, he's veiling some of
the fullness of visibilities there.
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:He could, and he at any time do
whatever he wanted to do out there,
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:but he's gonna say, you know what?
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:I'm gonna condescend to you and
I'll play more on your level.
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:So even in his condescension and
his veiling, there were still
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:points where he decided, I'm
gonna show a little bit of this.
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:Yeah.
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:I still choose to exercise some of those
divine prerogatives, but not apart from
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:submission to the father and not apart
from the empowerment of the spirit.
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:So even then we could say.
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:He's still choosing to play with
his right hand tied behind his back.
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:Right.
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:He's allowing himself to be led by the
Father, by the power of the spirit.
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:Yeah.
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:Fascinating.
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:Yeah.
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:Well, let's pray and then
we're done with this episode.
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:Father, we are thankful for that
mystery of the kenosis of Jesus for us.
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:And we thank you for that being part
of your plan that you would save us.
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:And we thank you that he came
to identify with us as truly
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:God and truly man, and we just.
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:Are forever in awe of that, and
I think we'll spend eternity
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:forever in awe of that.
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:And so I pray that we would
live well and live for him as we
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:live the rest of our days today.
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:In Jesus name, amen.
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:Amen.
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:Keep in your Bibles and tune in
again tomorrow for another edition
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:of the Daily Bible Podcast.
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:See you then folks.
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:Bye.
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:PJ: Yeah.
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:I would agree with
everything that you said