Twenty episodes in. Tiny numbers. Nothing happening. Sound familiar?
You probably started wrong. And here is exactly how to fix it.
There is a brutal truth nobody talks about in the coaching and consulting world. The best people in the room are almost never the most visible ones. They are brilliant, experienced, genuinely transformational, and completely invisible beyond a small handful of clients.
Jason Croft has spent 34 years in media figuring out how to fix exactly that. And the answer is not what most people think.
Most coaches start a podcast the wrong way. They pick a fun name, interview whoever says yes, obsess over download numbers, get discouraged around episode twenty, and quietly let it die. Jason has watched it happen hundreds of times. And every single time, the problem started before the first episode was ever recorded.
In this episode, Kel and Jason break down why podcasting is not a content play - it is a pipeline play, and why that one mindset shift changes absolutely everything. Jason walks through who your guests should actually be, why your ideal client and your ideal guest are almost always the same person, and how to structure every episode so that even a tiny audience can turn into real revenue fast.
He also unpacks his market gravity framework, the five forces that pull ideal clients into your orbit without you chasing a single one of them, and explains what it actually means to go from unseen expert to inevitable choice.
If you have been sitting on a podcast idea, or quietly wondering why the one you started is not working, this episode is going to be uncomfortable in the best possible way.
WHAT YOU’LL DISCOVER IN THIS EPISODE:
- 01:33 - What 34 years behind the camera teaches you and the one tool that makes brilliant experts impossible to ignore
- 4:30 - Why your podcast should be closing deals from episode one and the two decisions that determine whether it does
- 9:20 - The five force framework that turns invisible experts into the inevitable choice in their space
- 13:00 - Why most podcasters quit one episode too early and why four engaged listeners beat a million passive ones
- 16:11 - The one question you must answer before you record a single word or risk wasting every episode that follows
WHERE TO FIND JASON CROFT
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