We all make plans. But who is the real author of them? Is it our own ego? Or is it God? If there is The Best Knower, and There Is, why would you not want Him to be the architect of your destiny? This is the path of less resistance and of ultimate liberation. Join Brother Adam X and Brother Amin Muhammad as they welcome you to the only journey there is: Allah.
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Speaker A: th, the year of our Lord: Speaker A:Sound like a soldier?
Speaker A:It's been three years since you've been here, man.
Speaker B:Time flies.
Speaker B:They say time flies when you're having fun.
Speaker A:Yeah, well, we.
Speaker A:We've been busy.
Speaker B:Yeah, working great.
Speaker A:That's right.
Speaker A:Let's open up, sir.
Speaker A:Bismillah Alhamdula Rabil Alamin Arachman Irahim Malaki Yomidim.
Speaker A:Walil Makpubi Alayhim Guide this conversation.
Speaker A:Guide this prose.
Speaker A:Lead our minds and lead us to discuss the topics you desire us discuss.
Speaker A:We love and serve you alone.
Speaker A:I mean, Had a near death experience last week, bro.
Speaker B:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker A:No, it's the physical universe coming for us.
Speaker B:Not an energy is amassing.
Speaker A:It's amassing.
Speaker A:And as I told you, it's like the first time I've never.
Speaker A:I was not at fault but like super not at fault in a car accident.
Speaker A:And me and two of my children got t boned in Los Angeles.
Speaker A:Dude probably going like 30 miles an hour and his car hit mine like right where I'm sitting.
Speaker A:So I.
Speaker A:Only thing I. I'm just driving my children, not even speed and not doing nothing wrong.
Speaker A:All wearing our seat belts and all of a sudden just douch.
Speaker B:Did you see it coming?
Speaker A:I.
Speaker A:No, I saw the impact.
Speaker A:That's all I saw the impact.
Speaker A:So I literally saw a car hit me and didn't lose consciousness, didn't hit my head.
Speaker A:And as a law has it, it was Alexis versus Lexus.
Speaker A:So two of the safest cars on the planet, collision.
Speaker A:And.
Speaker A:And it felt like that.
Speaker A:It felt like a very safe car accident, but also a very dangerous one.
Speaker A:So it's like.
Speaker A:And I was thinking, it's funny, I was thinking Allah.
Speaker A:I was, I wasn't exactly praying, but I was just thinking about how it's best to always have Allah on your mind.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:And I was actually thinking about, you know, you know, Krishna consciousness is what essentially Krishna consciousness is like, if you ain't thinking about nothing, think about God.
Speaker B:Oh yeah.
Speaker B:That's all it Is at all times, it's either you're serving one master or the other.
Speaker A:That's right.
Speaker B:And so whatever you're doing, if you're serving God, you'll be.
Speaker B:He'll be on your mind.
Speaker B:That's in that mode.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Because you could obviously be in the other mode if you're not.
Speaker A:Exactly.
Speaker A:So I was just on that mode, like, probably just like thinking about Allah even.
Speaker A:I think that time I was actually thinking about Krishna.
Speaker A:Krishna consciousness.
Speaker A:Like Krishna being Krishna, the supreme personality of Godhead, is what.
Speaker A:Is what you can call Krishna.
Speaker A:But that's in, you know, that specter of spirituality.
Speaker A:But I was just happening, thinking like that.
Speaker A:And as soon as I was thinking like that, wham.
Speaker A:But as far as car accidents goes,.
Speaker B:It was the safest car accident.
Speaker A:It was the safest car accident I could have had.
Speaker A:And as I told you, two weeks ago, I had a car accident with the pavement myself.
Speaker A:By running down a hill too fast, tripping and falling, spraining my ankle and hitting the pavement.
Speaker A:So that was the right side of my body that hit the pavement.
Speaker A:This incident was the left side of my body.
Speaker A:But both incidents were very physical.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:You feel what I'm saying.
Speaker A:And usually when I've been attacked, it's spiritual.
Speaker A:So I usually get sick.
Speaker A:And that's being like a cough or a cold.
Speaker A:That's usually your spirit impinging upon your body.
Speaker A:But this is like the first time where Allah's actually allowed me to feel the smoke physically.
Speaker A:And like, actually physically has hurt my body, but in a way where it's not crippling me.
Speaker A:But you're showing me what time it is.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:And showing all I am connected to what time it is.
Speaker B:My father said, pay attention to details.
Speaker B:I could already hear him saying it.
Speaker B:When you.
Speaker B:In that situation, it's like those, those.
Speaker B:Those stumbles in life.
Speaker B:It's just.
Speaker B:It's details.
Speaker A:That's right.
Speaker B:And we know the devil is in the details.
Speaker B:So you paying attention to them, that's the.
Speaker B:That's the only obvious lesson I could think of, you know?
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:So what I.
Speaker A:What I like it from this experience is you really can't pray enough and you really can't keep Allah in mind enough.
Speaker A:There's like.
Speaker A:There's no minimum to that.
Speaker B:I've been working on, like, this concept of, like, balance.
Speaker B:Like, I look at it like everything in my life is a.
Speaker B:Is a bucket.
Speaker B:Bucket of liquid.
Speaker B:Right, Right.
Speaker B:And I gotta constantly keep each bucket full.
Speaker B:And there's like a hole at the bottom, and it's like it's my job to continuously pour into each bucket.
Speaker B:And whatever bucket I'm not pouring into is the bucket that's gonna be empty.
Speaker B:And it's like I'm at a place in my life where I'm only pouring into buckets that are actually pouring back into me too.
Speaker A:That's right.
Speaker B:I'm not, I'm not just wasting my energy.
Speaker B:I don't have the time for that.
Speaker B:If I see, if I see potential for that bucket, I can see myself putting a little bit in there.
Speaker B:But it's got to start paying off at some point.
Speaker B:Otherwise I'm, you know.
Speaker A:And who and what is the most important bucket, sir?
Speaker B:I mean, God,.
Speaker A:Without question, every.
Speaker B:Everything I do, a drop goes into that bucket.
Speaker B:That bucket does not falter.
Speaker A:And that's what I'm real.
Speaker A:That's what these reminders have reminded me is like, okay, bro, you've been out running and gunning, scrambling this past three years.
Speaker A:Ever since the last podcast, that's what we haven't had a podcast was we've been doing what we're doing right now.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:And I, like I said, I dropped off the elotri.
Speaker A:Doesn't happen.
Speaker A:But I would say my attention was more on getting money, getting the bag.
Speaker A:But I'm like, what are we gonna do to make next play?
Speaker A:Get the bad.
Speaker A:We got to get this money.
Speaker A:Gotta get this money, you know, and which is, which is cool.
Speaker A:But Allah was like, okay, you're missing the point.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:This ain't about the bread.
Speaker A:This ain't about the bag at all.
Speaker A:This is about the purpose that you have decided to undertake by joining the Nation of Islam.
Speaker A:And this is about the purpose that I have ordained for you as a so called sword soldier of the Lord.
Speaker B:You know, submit your will to do his will.
Speaker A:Part that part.
Speaker A:So in order to submit, you have to, you have to pray for that.
Speaker A:And you actually have to be willing to accept what the orders are.
Speaker B:That's the part that people don't understand.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:If you're not, even if you're not in alignment, you'll be going in the wrong direction thinking that you're serving.
Speaker A:Absolutely.
Speaker B:Because service is not what you want to do.
Speaker B:Is what you're submitting what you want to do?
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:To do what he wants you to do.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:To be fair, I, I do think it's more of an issue of people not even having that mode and mindset of devotional service and just being on like that's not even an option for them yet.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:You Feel me.
Speaker A:That is a blessing.
Speaker A:To understand that the true purpose in life is to serve Allah.
Speaker B:That's like I went down this, this deep, like, introspective rabbit hole about how we all look at the word slavery in a negative connotation.
Speaker B:And I was like, if you take, if you take how you feel about the word slavery away and just think about what it means, it's like, slavery doesn't have to be a bad thing.
Speaker B:We just have so much trauma attached to that word.
Speaker A:That's right.
Speaker B:And it's like an extreme amount of.
Speaker A:Trauma attached to that.
Speaker B:And our enemy plays on that.
Speaker B:So he.
Speaker B:He offers us an abundance of.
Speaker B:And calls it freedom.
Speaker A:Yes, sir.
Speaker B:You know, and so, and so we accept it because it's attached to the word freedom.
Speaker A:That's right.
Speaker B:And we don't realize that, you know, submitting our will to do God's will is ultimately the best case scenario for us.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:You know, and, and so, yeah, if you, if you take the emotion out of it, it's like, yeah, you should be a slave to God because the alternative is hell.
Speaker B:Like, like figure out, figure out how to focus all of your attention on serving what God wants for you and you will find heaven.
Speaker A:That's right.
Speaker B:Or just find hell.
Speaker A:And especially in these times, that's what we're living in.
Speaker A:It's like the chasm is becoming greater where you have Team Allah, which is submission to his will, and literal hellfire and apocalyptic warfare.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Not even the actuality of it, but just the thought of it.
Speaker A:And that's what people are thinking about.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:And even, even people who try to stay in the middle of the fence sitters.
Speaker B:That's hell.
Speaker A:That's hell.
Speaker B:That's the valley.
Speaker A:That's the valley of death.
Speaker A:Indecisiveness.
Speaker A:The valley of death.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Yep.
Speaker A:And you got the, the righteousness in heaven on one side, and you got just other demons in hell on the other side.
Speaker A:You're like, oh, but that's still hell.
Speaker B:No, it is.
Speaker A:Whereas us, who are at least, you know, doesn't make it easy, but we at least have the understanding of knowing, having nothing.
Speaker A:The knowledge and the time and serving the one and only Lord.
Speaker A:You know, that's all we got.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:That's this.
Speaker A:There's no amount of dollar or wealth that could surpass that mode of service and knowledge.
Speaker B:That part.
Speaker A:I'm wealthy, the wealthiest creature in the entire universe because I have submitted my will.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:And we know that if we submit our will.
Speaker A:Don't do nothing stupid.
Speaker A:We're Gonna get taken care of.
Speaker A:And you and I both seem, regardless of any of this happen, we're taken care of.
Speaker B:And I want to say like, I, I don't think it's possible to like 100 submit my will, period.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker A:Understand.
Speaker B:Because of the world we live in.
Speaker B:But I think that when you make that conscious effort to do it as much as possible, you're headed in the right direction.
Speaker A:That's right.
Speaker B:You know, because you could easily be going towards the fence sitters or the other direction.
Speaker B:But if you're consciously, if you're thinking about it and you're consciously trying to submit your will and figuring out what that means for you and what your purpose is here, then you're headed in the right direction.
Speaker B:That's the best case scenario.
Speaker A:That's right.
Speaker B:You know.
Speaker A:Yep.
Speaker B:For me, the best case scenario for me that, that submission of my will is like I, I hear the economic blueprint and focusing on agriculture like screaming at me at all times.
Speaker A:Absolutely.
Speaker B:So it's like that's, that's my focus.
Speaker A:That's right.
Speaker B:That's.
Speaker A:We've, our lives are now in that game.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:No, in that, in that purpose of economic blueprint.
Speaker A:Starting with the soil, starting with agriculture.
Speaker A:It all starts from agriculture.
Speaker B:And a couple years ago, you know, when I said that to people that I wanted to become, you know, a farmer and I had this vision of doing that, like they didn't see it and thought it was, you know, funny and I didn't understand what was funny.
Speaker B:But now seeing, you know, where I'm at right now versus where I was when I first had the thought, like, okay, I can see how that was funny back then.
Speaker B:It's getting a little bit serious now.
Speaker B:When I say it to people now, they're like, oh yeah, that's the way.
Speaker A:That's right.
Speaker A:You know, and luckily, or unluckily, however you look at it, we have the pressure of the external forces of the world, world in our favor that are always going to point people and push people in our direction towards self sufficiency.
Speaker A:Because at the end of the day, when the world blows up and your worst fears come to life, what are you going to do?
Speaker A:Yeah, how are you going to eat?
Speaker B:Especially if you made no plans.
Speaker B:I tell everybody I know, start, start saving up some seeds.
Speaker A:That's right.
Speaker B:You know, at the very least you save yourself some beans because beans is a seed too.
Speaker B:You can eat it, you can grow it.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:You know, and I think a lot of like people are hesitant to take that initial shrouded because it's terrifying.
Speaker A:It means they have to accept the possibility that not everything's going to be taken care of.
Speaker A:So they.
Speaker A:It's easier to stay attached to the lust of the material universe of what that provides the desire, the satisfaction of sense gratification of desire.
Speaker B:The smiling devil.
Speaker A:The smiling devil where you just.
Speaker A:Okay, well, this feels good over here.
Speaker A:The alternative is confronting the reality that it's gonna get really hot and I should do something that doesn't feel too good.
Speaker B:No.
Speaker A:So therefore, I'm just going to stay on Tinder and go to the club and get high.
Speaker A:Really get high.
Speaker A:That's really.
Speaker A:To be honest, getting high is probably like the number one escapement.
Speaker B:Well, yeah.
Speaker B:When you consider getting high doesn't just mean drugs like getting high.
Speaker B:There are so many things that people are high on TV shows.
Speaker A:Absolutely.
Speaker B:People are high on music.
Speaker B:People are high on, like, getting high is like a sense of losing yourself.
Speaker B:And every single thing in this society is designed to absolutely make sure that you lose yourself in it.
Speaker A:That's right.
Speaker B:It's.
Speaker B:They're creating addictions left and right from the.
Speaker B:They put it in the food.
Speaker B:They're putting poisons in the food that specifically make you want to come back.
Speaker B:Like, not just fast food, but also food that you find in the grocery store.
Speaker B:Like, they're.
Speaker B:They're pumping up the chickens, they're pumping up the beef.
Speaker B:Like, you got to be.
Speaker B:All of it is poison unless you growing it yourself.
Speaker B:You don't know.
Speaker A:That's right.
Speaker B:You know, and that's.
Speaker B:You know, that's devilish.
Speaker B:That's what they do.
Speaker A:And it works.
Speaker A:Works like the devil.
Speaker A:It's very effective.
Speaker A:And it's.
Speaker A:The beautiful thing about, you know, how we believe in submission to Allah's will is like, a lot could really build a whole new universe of two people.
Speaker B:No.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Like, I was reading.
Speaker A:So luckily, with this new year, new.
Speaker A:I guess this new spring, but also, like back in this new actual devil year, this new Gregorian calendar year, I. I've been heavy on study, and I've been actually reading source material, which is the.
Speaker A:The messenger, the most Honorable Elijah Muhammad.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker A:And I was reading, I think, theology at the time, and he specifically said, that's heavy.
Speaker A:This is the bars upon bars upon bars.
Speaker B:Whenever somebody says they're going to tell you something about a theology, that's it, bro.
Speaker A:Disclaimer.
Speaker A:Please read Theology of Time if you want.
Speaker A:If you want proof, and be very clear, I was going to say this.
Speaker A:If you want proof that the most Honorable Elijah Muhammad met with Allah in person.
Speaker A:The supreme being Master Farad Muhammad for a period of three and a half years.
Speaker A:Read Theology of Time and that will clarify that we are not cap.
Speaker A:That God came in physical body form to teach and raise.
Speaker A:Elijah Muhammad for three and a half years creating the Nation of Islam.
Speaker B:That book is steak.
Speaker B:That's steak.
Speaker B:If you're a baby with no teeth.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:You're gonna, you're gonna choke.
Speaker A:Absolutely.
Speaker A:So just disclaimer.
Speaker A:But it's, it is what it is.
Speaker A:But being in that study, I, I read a part where the messenger said it's like Allah told me I could literally snap my fingers and just end everything.
Speaker A:You know, I give you this gradual warming up in the pot as a grand grace to you.
Speaker A:As a grace to you.
Speaker A:Because I could literally flip the.
Speaker A:Flip the universe on his head with the stab of my fingers.
Speaker B:It's like those, those Marvel.
Speaker B:I don't know which Marvel character, but I was watching something where a Marvel character, like he just like thought about it and the molecules that hold you together as a person separated.
Speaker A:Not Thanos.
Speaker B:No, no.
Speaker B:Thanos made people just disappear.
Speaker B:But that wasn't even really him.
Speaker B:That was the glove.
Speaker A:That's real.
Speaker B:He was just strong enough to wield it.
Speaker A:That's right.
Speaker B:But like imagine having the, the mind, the mind control power to be able to like.
Speaker B:Cuz.
Speaker B:Cuz we're held together by Allah, sheer will.
Speaker A:Absolutely.
Speaker B:You know, we are.
Speaker B:We think of ourselves as individuals, but we are really a culmination of molecules.
Speaker B:We are a universe within a universe within a universe.
Speaker B:And so if God wanted to, he could absolutely just let those atoms stop spinning together and just separate.
Speaker A:So we know that Allah can do that.
Speaker A:He can come in a person of a man, just like me or you, and do that from that position.
Speaker A:And that literal supreme being taught another man named Elijah Muhammad three and a half years and raised him up to where he could have godlike potential.
Speaker A:Like himself.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker A:And it's.
Speaker A:If you watch the messenger, he moves as if He.
Speaker A:He moves as.
Speaker B:He was God, I mean divinely guided.
Speaker A:He.
Speaker A:He moves as if literally.
Speaker A:What are you guys?
Speaker A:Literally can't do anything to me.
Speaker A:Nobody can do anything to me because God is guiding me and protecting me and monitoring my energy, every motion.
Speaker B:Well, I mean, when you submit your will.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:And you practice that over time, eventually the will becomes one.
Speaker A:That's right.
Speaker B:And that's the way that works.
Speaker A:And that's what it is.
Speaker A:Yeah, that's what it is.
Speaker A:So I'm like, okay, well I don't have all the knowledge that God taught Elijah Muhammad.
Speaker A:I only have what Elijah Muhammad has told to us through books, literature and lecture.
Speaker B:But he gave us enough to get to a certain level.
Speaker A:He sure did.
Speaker A:But if the man I follow move like that, we should bare minimum be able to move like that.
Speaker A:As long as we're not on no bs.
Speaker B:Well, to the degree that we submit our will.
Speaker A:And I think maybe, ah, then that's why we don't move like that.
Speaker B:Which is why I say I'm not 190.
Speaker B:Stretch the imagination.
Speaker B:I am striving, submitting my will to be upright.
Speaker A:I. I'm not, I'm not gonna say 100.
Speaker A:I'm definitely a lot closer having gone through these near death experiences.
Speaker B:Yeah, closer than you were exactly.
Speaker B:Incrementally.
Speaker A:And I do think those near death experiences a lot.
Speaker A:Really telling me is like, bro, you could really walk like that, you really gotta let go.
Speaker A:And like, really, you.
Speaker A:I got you.
Speaker A:Yeah, I got you.
Speaker A:I'm gonna just throw a little smoke at you to, to show you that I really do got you.
Speaker A:Because the two times I got, I could have got seriously hurt.
Speaker A:Because when I, when I sprained my ankle, like, hey, I was like a foot away from a curb.
Speaker A:I would have fell and hit my head on the curb with my daughter.
Speaker A:It'd have been like, game over.
Speaker A:Could have been death.
Speaker A:Definitely knocked out really bad.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:So that didn't happen.
Speaker A:And then I told you, like the first, I think I told you this, the first person that came and tended to me is an orthopedic special, a doctor in uniform that is like, skilled in dealing with that situation.
Speaker A:So it's like Allah put me in that situation, but then he also sends that help.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:The first brother that was there.
Speaker B:That's crazy.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And this car accident.
Speaker A:T bone's the worst way to get hit.
Speaker A:Well, head on.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:But you walked away perfectly fine.
Speaker B:Perfect.
Speaker A:Perfectly fine.
Speaker A:Type of back's a little sore.
Speaker A:I'm like, I'm not gonna cap.
Speaker A:You know, I'm a little sore, but it feels like, like a football, like, like a football injury.
Speaker A:Like I just, I had a rough.
Speaker B:At a rough game in comparison to T bones of the past, to T.
Speaker A:Bones where people literally die.
Speaker A:That's how people die.
Speaker A:You break your.
Speaker A:Shatter your spinal cord.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:My son too, we were both on that side of impact and we're just like, damn.
Speaker A:Yeah, damn.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker A:We here a lot longer.
Speaker A:So I'm like, okay, okay.
Speaker A:Lifts up my faith.
Speaker A:He really does got me okay.
Speaker A:What moves have I not made for quote unquote fear of repercussions that are worldly.
Speaker A:What moves have you made for.
Speaker A:Not made because of fears of replica of materialistic repercussions.
Speaker A:I'm asking.
Speaker A:I'm not.
Speaker A:I don't know the answers.
Speaker A:I'm just asking us right now.
Speaker B:It's like also I made.
Speaker B:I made sort of a pact with.
Speaker B:With myself, with the higher power.
Speaker B:Like it was like almost two years ago.
Speaker B:It was Ramadan.
Speaker B:And I was just like, I'm not turning down nothing.
Speaker B:I'm accepting all fates and.
Speaker A:Good idea.
Speaker B:You know.
Speaker B:Whatever comes my way is what comes.
Speaker A:That's right.
Speaker B:I've just been head down grindstone non stop.
Speaker A:That's it.
Speaker B:Tired.
Speaker B:What does that mean?
Speaker B:You got work to do.
Speaker A:Got work.
Speaker B:Just keep going.
Speaker A:Got work.
Speaker A:And it's.
Speaker A:It's funny.
Speaker A:Like we're living in the reality of wide open fields for the wide awake black man.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:And we're in these fields being like show damn.
Speaker A:There's three of us out here.
Speaker B:It's a lot of work.
Speaker A:It's a lot of work.
Speaker B:It's a lot of work.
Speaker A:It's a lot of work.
Speaker B:But look, it's so much.
Speaker B:What did we expect?
Speaker B:We trying to build a nation.
Speaker A:I get it.
Speaker A:And it's like we're out here in the work and.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:In the weeds of the work.
Speaker A:And the laborers are still at home.
Speaker A:No, no.
Speaker A:Some are.
Speaker B:Some are.
Speaker A:Some are in the weeds with us.
Speaker A:I'm not.
Speaker A:Not to be.
Speaker B:It's different levels of work.
Speaker A:Exactly.
Speaker B:There's different people doing different jobs.
Speaker A:Exactly.
Speaker B:That's what the nation is.
Speaker B:Exactly.
Speaker B:Everybody ain't doing the same thing.
Speaker A:That's right.
Speaker B:And so you know, I stay in my lane.
Speaker A:That's right.
Speaker B:I don't even worry about what other people got going on because.
Speaker A:That's right.
Speaker B:I don't know how hard they work is for them.
Speaker B:I know how hard my work is for me.
Speaker A:That's real.
Speaker B:You know.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker A:But I'm glad me and I, you and I having spent Savior's day together got the epiphany from Allah that it's time for us to not like we left the lation.
Speaker A:Everything left the nation like that.
Speaker A:No.
Speaker A:To really realize and cultivate the fact that we are in the nation.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Card carrying members of the nation.
Speaker A:Card carrying members of the Nation of Islam.
Speaker A:And it is our duty to.
Speaker A:Wherever we go, the nation is with us.
Speaker B:Absolutely.
Speaker A:And we're not going to shy away from that fact.
Speaker A:We are going to bring the nation with us in lands undiscovered that we have discovered.
Speaker A:We discover it as a nation together, and we bring our brothers with us.
Speaker A:That's the game.
Speaker A:That's what.
Speaker A:And we have to really.
Speaker A:It's an asset to realize that the Nation of Islam is a global institution.
Speaker A:You can pretend that it doesn't exist.
Speaker A:You can knock.
Speaker A:Look at it.
Speaker A:But we're here, and we're making moves, and we're making motion.
Speaker A:And just like Joshua, the Bible.
Speaker A:Joshua in the Bible, who saw the promised land, God said, all you got to do is go.
Speaker A:When I got you, that's where we are.
Speaker A:Moses got us at this point.
Speaker B:No.
Speaker B:You take one step towards God, he takes two to you.
Speaker A:So all we got to do is keep making moves.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:And then what I'm getting from this is just really like, no, I got you.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:And what I see is Satan knows that.
Speaker B:No, absolutely.
Speaker A:And his.
Speaker A:His.
Speaker A:What I have felt is Satan hates that.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:He wants to kill us.
Speaker A:And it's.
Speaker A:It's envy because he has to.
Speaker A:He has to work through all hoops.
Speaker A:And the.
Speaker A:You know, it's the opposite.
Speaker A:He has to finesse and do devilishment to.
Speaker A:To keep his world going.
Speaker B:But the.
Speaker B:The.
Speaker B:The.
Speaker B:The thing I've been laughing about lately, and it.
Speaker B:To me, it's like even saying it right now is kind of shooting myself in the foot.
Speaker B:But I feel like he got so much going on right now.
Speaker B:He don't got time to pay attention to us.
Speaker B:So it's the perfect.
Speaker A:He's got so much going on because it takes so much energy to keep his charade going.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:At this time where all this stuff is coming out and everybody's starting to.
Speaker A:See everything, he's like, you know, it's like a Jenga tower.
Speaker A:He's, like, putting the.
Speaker A:The pieces back in.
Speaker A:Oh, nope, nope, nope.
Speaker A:So he.
Speaker A:You're right.
Speaker A:He doesn't have time to tend us because he's too busy trying to keep his wicked empire from crumbling, and that's that.
Speaker A:The point is his energy is trying to maintain something that's inevitably going to fall.
Speaker A:Ours is literally free and clear, and all we got to do is build and walk.
Speaker A:It's a work.
Speaker A:That's it.
Speaker A:That's the different level of.
Speaker A:We're playing completely different games.
Speaker B:And then.
Speaker B:And then remember, once you.
Speaker B:Once you look back at the works you've done, don't be like, look what I did.
Speaker B:Look what Allah did.
Speaker B:All praises due to Allah.
Speaker A:That's right.
Speaker A:Don't watch your work.
Speaker B:No, don't worry about what you got.
Speaker B:Don't worry about what you're doing.
Speaker B:Just keep working.
Speaker A:Keep it pushing.
Speaker A:Because that's how you get.
Speaker A:Got in a fight.
Speaker A:You feel yourself after making a good strike.
Speaker A:You got to look forward.
Speaker A:Always look forward.
Speaker B:I'll be like.
Speaker B:So I just made the analogy just now about the external devil.
Speaker B:But I'd be like the internal devil within me.
Speaker B:He busy.
Speaker A:Super busy.
Speaker B:He's.
Speaker A:What's he saying?
Speaker B:I mean, he don't have time to focus on me.
Speaker B:He gotta keep trying to.
Speaker B:He's a part of this world.
Speaker A:Oh, I understand.
Speaker B:He loves all the things of this world.
Speaker B:So he's in fear and trying to figure out how to maintain this world.
Speaker A:That's right.
Speaker B:The God in me don't give a damn about what he got going on.
Speaker A:That's real, bro.
Speaker B:The God in me is like, it's build time.
Speaker A:That's right.
Speaker B:And so I'm able to resonate with the God in me because I understand the time.
Speaker B:Time and what must be done.
Speaker A:That's right.
Speaker A:And it's.
Speaker A:I'm glad you said that.
Speaker A:The devil inside, that's the one that maintains the devil inside you.
Speaker A:Wants to maintain the devil's world.
Speaker A:It wants to do what it can to maintain the devil's world and think with the devil and make sure that that infrastructure stays.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Intact.
Speaker B:That's his comfort zone.
Speaker A:Exactly.
Speaker A:And I will say with that, that all that thinking, it goes, gotta have a job.
Speaker A:Gotta, gotta, gotta.
Speaker A:I gotta.
Speaker A:All of these programs that we have that say that we have to.
Speaker A:But all your programming who.
Speaker A:That's.
Speaker A:That's the programming of the Roman Empire.
Speaker A:Like you don't.
Speaker A:Only thing you got to do is serve the Lord.
Speaker B:To the best of your ability.
Speaker A:Serve the Lord.
Speaker A:And that doesn't mean quit your job.
Speaker A:That just means do everything with service as a mode of operandi.
Speaker A:Oh.
Speaker B:My job is my number one investor in my real life.
Speaker A:I understand.
Speaker B:You know.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:That's my financial backer.
Speaker B:And he believes in me 100% because he attributes all of what I gain from him towards what I want to do.
Speaker A:That's right.
Speaker B:You know, that's what it is.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:And you look at people who.
Speaker A:And we.
Speaker A:We talked about this earlier is you got people like us who are in the mode of service.
Speaker A:You know, we have a very.
Speaker A:We have a divine purpose, literally divine purpose to bring the 30 year million more to the Lamb of God.
Speaker A:Deliver our people to the Lamb of God to usher in the kingdom of heaven.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:You know, that's the purpose cut and dry.
Speaker B:We're doing it to the best of our ability.
Speaker A:Best of our ability.
Speaker A:And then that's what drives all of our activities.
Speaker A:Then you got people in the motive.
Speaker A:And I used to be in this moment.
Speaker A:I didn't have this purpose.
Speaker A:It's just, well, I gotta.
Speaker A:I've gotta make the best out of them.
Speaker A:I gotta work hard, I gotta get money, I gotta get a nice house.
Speaker A:I gotta get.
Speaker A:Take care of my family.
Speaker A:Not a bad thing.
Speaker A:No, all good materialistic obligations that I've got to provide.
Speaker A:I've got to get money so I can provide and take care of my family.
Speaker B:But the funny thing is, right when you let go of those, those things, when you stop chasing them and you just work the.
Speaker B:It automatically comes.
Speaker A:That's.
Speaker A:Wait, what's, what's it that comes.
Speaker B:What you need.
Speaker A:Ah, that's right.
Speaker B:You know, when you're putting in the work, what you need is the return.
Speaker A:That's right.
Speaker B:You know, it comes back on.
Speaker B:On the investment.
Speaker A:That's right.
Speaker B:And when you're stressing about it and when you're trying to focus on how to get it without actually doing any work, then, yeah, you're not going to get nothing.
Speaker A:That's right.
Speaker B:That's the reality of it.
Speaker A:That's right.
Speaker A:And it's, you know, that, that work.
Speaker A:The work part and working for material gain, you know, and that, And I say all this working without that divine purpose, and it's a, like I said, it's a blessing to have that purpose and to operate from it.
Speaker A:But it doesn't make you a bad person if you're just working hard for your family or working hard to buy a house, like to play in that game, the material game.
Speaker A:I'm just saying being of that divine servitude, that's the liberation to where you're doing it and where you don't.
Speaker A:You, you don't feel the pings of the material world pulling at you because you're in that divine service.
Speaker B:Absolutely.
Speaker A:And I would say that's not most people.
Speaker A:Most people just, you know, what good decent people.
Speaker A:I want to work hard, I'm going to buy stuff and I'm providing for my family.
Speaker A:It's a good position to be in because then you got people with no purpose that don't want to work, that don't want to do anything.
Speaker A:They just want to feel good all the time and not.
Speaker A:You feel me?
Speaker B:I think I look at the.
Speaker B:That is like, like there's a reason why you need employees at a Company, I understand, you know, owner owns nothing if they don't got, you know, work being done.
Speaker A:That's right.
Speaker B:If the owner is the only one doing the work the whole time he's employed himself, like you, you, you're not really at the level of like, like understanding business when you don't have, like, employees and things like that.
Speaker B:You're just, you're just, you're starting, you're right, you're at the beginning stages of it.
Speaker B:You haven't gotten to that level of like, professionalism and like, you're not in the, well, you could be in the flow state, but you're not in that, that level of expertise of business and that like, that's the goal so that you can actually be free to continue to create.
Speaker A:That's right.
Speaker B:You know, as long as you're working, you don't have the create.
Speaker B:But like different time, different strokes for different folks, different places, different times.
Speaker B:But, you know, based on where you are in your level of understanding.
Speaker A:That's right.
Speaker A:And I would say, like, if you, you know, my study of there's, there's levels to the world, there's levels of society and to being.
Speaker A:It's being in that mode of service that is like, that's, that's the purpose.
Speaker A:You feel me?
Speaker A:And they're like, there's not, there's no material good gain.
Speaker A:Being a politician, being, being super, super rich is not going to beat being able to operate from that mode.
Speaker A:You know what I'm saying?
Speaker A:Because that's when you're in that mode, that's a, that's a spiritual mode.
Speaker A:That's infinite.
Speaker A:Like, none of the worldly stuff.
Speaker A:Winning records, money.
Speaker A:Doesn't go with you when you die.
Speaker B:No, none of it.
Speaker A:Being a servant of the Lord, that's eternal.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:And I think the trap of the material universe is that it gets you out of that ultimate bit knowledge that you are literally a part of Allah.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:So you're out here chasing, chasing, chasing the dollar for lifetimes and then you just realize you were to wake up one day and just like, oh, man, I was all, I was God the whole time.
Speaker B:But the way I look at it too, though, I feel like I feel like from the perspective of the Creator, he has the experiences of the physical universe through his physical creations.
Speaker A:That's right.
Speaker B:And so he has every possible experience through every single person.
Speaker A:That's right.
Speaker B:And so.
Speaker A:That's right.
Speaker B:Some experiences are coming into this world.
Speaker B:Taking a breath, looking around.
Speaker B:And that's it.
Speaker A:That's it.
Speaker B:And then the baby passes away.
Speaker B:Like, that's some experience.
Speaker A:That's right.
Speaker B:And then some experiences are.
Speaker B:Are, you know, all the way into old age.
Speaker B:And, you know, as the.
Speaker B:The opposite to that.
Speaker B:Like, every single type of possible experience is the reason why he's doing it is all.
Speaker A:Every type of experience is literally the summation of all experiences ever is the totality of Allah.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Well, yeah, that's really what it is.
Speaker B:That's the purpose.
Speaker B:That's the purpose.
Speaker A:That's the purpose of it.
Speaker A:Okay, you know what?
Speaker A:Let's expand some more.
Speaker A:I want to.
Speaker A:I want to do some more.
Speaker A:I want to do some more.
Speaker A:I want to be the devil.
Speaker B:Exponential growth.
Speaker B:I mean, you learn mistakes, you learn lessons.
Speaker B:You understand why the devil is the way he is and why it's necessary to be more godlike by seeing that, by understanding that.
Speaker B:And I think, you know, when we.
Speaker B:When we do leave this physical, I think the.
Speaker B:The other side is downloading back into understanding who we are.
Speaker A:A. Yeah, yeah, man.
Speaker A:And it's funny that we literally had to create devil to see what it is like, actually to experience it outside of us.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Because it's one thing to know a thing.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:It's another thing to experience it.
Speaker A:Absolutely.
Speaker B:Those are two different concepts.
Speaker A:And it's funny, like, having, like, knowing what we were taught about the creation of the devil.
Speaker A:I know without a shadow of doubt that the devil is a devil, because that part of me.
Speaker A:Me is the devil.
Speaker A:And I could without a shadow of a doubt, say, oh, no, no, no, I'm the devil too.
Speaker B:And to me, that explains, like, people be like, well, if God is real, why does he let babies die?
Speaker B:Why does.
Speaker B:It's because that exists within everything.
Speaker A:Like, absolutely.
Speaker B:You got a devil within you that allows you to do.
Speaker B:Dumb.
Speaker B:God got one.
Speaker B:Because God created you, and you are like God.
Speaker B:Like, you are made in his image.
Speaker A:Like, absolutely.
Speaker B:And so for God to understand it and to overcome it, he had to experience it.
Speaker B:Not just under.
Speaker B:Not just know.
Speaker A:Not just know.
Speaker B:Understand.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:To pull it out and see.
Speaker A:Oh, that's what it is.
Speaker A:Okay, now what are we going to do to deal with that and evolve from that.
Speaker B:And before you actually understand it, before you actually experience it, it's just like the baby who walks up to the stove and sees the.
Speaker B:The fire and like, oh, that's pretty.
Speaker B:Reaches out to touch it.
Speaker B:Before you see it and before you understand what it is, you'll burn your hand on it.
Speaker A:That's right.
Speaker B:You have to experience it to understand it.
Speaker B:That's Right now.
Speaker B:Now, some people are smart enough to get close enough to feel the heat without actually touching it.
Speaker B:And some people need to put their hand in there and burn itself a little bit.
Speaker B:It's just different, you know, different people.
Speaker A:And I am.
Speaker A:Yeah, I. I still need to burn my hands.
Speaker B:I mean, I think I. I can't see.
Speaker B:I don't think anybody here has gotten through every single lesson without actually touching the fire.
Speaker B:Like, some lessons are made for some people.
Speaker B:Different people have different lessons.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:You know, but that's that it.
Speaker B:That's what makes us human, is the fact that, you know, all of us have a different experience.
Speaker B:You could grow up in the same household with somebody and have an entire, entirely different experience.
Speaker B:Their trials are not your trials.
Speaker A:That's right.
Speaker B:You know.
Speaker A:Yeah, I. I'm just thinking about, man.
Speaker A:No, we.
Speaker A:We still gotta burn.
Speaker A:We're still young.
Speaker A:We still gotta burn our hands, bro.
Speaker A:And I think the.
Speaker A:The older, more mature we get and the more, you know, in the mode of service we get, the.
Speaker A:It's like it becomes more like fine tuning.
Speaker A:It's not like a huge like, oh, my God, everything's on fire and I'm running down the street.
Speaker A:It's like, oh, that hurt.
Speaker A:But I can fix that.
Speaker A:I could find tune.
Speaker A:It's fine tuning.
Speaker A:And I think the more you're in that mode, the fine tuning goes to where.
Speaker A:Okay, well, you stop doing the physical stuff.
Speaker B:Mm.
Speaker A:You stop doing the.
Speaker A:Whether it's stealing, whether it's lusting or like, I guess pursuing lust.
Speaker A:And then it moves more into.
Speaker A:Okay, now thinking.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:You know, and I think that's where the fight.
Speaker A:I think that's where like the fine tuning goes.
Speaker A:It's like, okay, well, now, okay, well, you're not doing you one meal a day.
Speaker A:You know, I'm not eating pork now.
Speaker A:It's like, okay, what are your thoughts?
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:And that's where serving a lot, having that Krishna consciousness comes out.
Speaker A:Because it's like, if you don't have something to fall back on, like a program where you're thinking about God, then you're going, it's the devil.
Speaker A:It's the world.
Speaker B:The.
Speaker A:The temptation.
Speaker A:Everything around us is going to pull you in.
Speaker A:Billboards, attractive women, anything.
Speaker A:So that's going to be Satan.
Speaker A:So if you don't have a standard operating procedure, that is Allah.
Speaker A:And I'll call it this Krishna consciousness.
Speaker A:Because I. I was.
Speaker A:I was tested this week when I was in that mode and just like, okay, well, you think you're okay.
Speaker A:Boom, here comes Some car.
Speaker A:Yeah, that's how it works.
Speaker A:Yep.
Speaker A:So I think that's that.
Speaker A:But it takes.
Speaker A:You have to get to the easier levels to get that.
Speaker A:And I will say, what is it?
Speaker A:It's really some semblance of a system of discipline to wean you off of Satan's world.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:Gotta start somewhere.
Speaker A:It don't gotta be initially Christianity.
Speaker A:Are you not doing what Jesus said not to do?
Speaker A:But I will say it could be a diet.
Speaker A:It could be an alkaline diet where you.
Speaker A:Okay, well, are you not eating what the diet says not to do?
Speaker A:But, but I do think there's really no cheat code to get to Allah that doesn't involve discipline.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:No.
Speaker B:Yeah, you gotta.
Speaker B:You need none.
Speaker B:But, but I'll say this.
Speaker B:Discipline is not the same for everybody.
Speaker B:Like, that's true.
Speaker B:It's more.
Speaker B:Some things are more difficult for other.
Speaker B:For different people.
Speaker B:So, like, what's easy for you to be disciplined in is not necessarily what's easy for the next person.
Speaker B:But yeah, you all.
Speaker B:Everybody has to have.
Speaker B:Have discipline in certain aspects in order to, you know, perfect themselves.
Speaker B:And that's the goal.
Speaker A:That's right.
Speaker A:And, you know, it could be exercise, martial arts.
Speaker A:It could be.
Speaker A:There has to.
Speaker A:I don't see.
Speaker A:There is no way of ascension without.
Speaker A:Yeah, no.
Speaker A:Without some system of discipline.
Speaker A:I, I don't see it happening.
Speaker A:Because even, like I was gonna say, if you're born into a.
Speaker A:A system of monks, but monk.
Speaker A:Monks, monkery is discipline.
Speaker B:I mean.
Speaker A:Yeah, you're in a mosque, you know, you don't, you're, you're.
Speaker A:No, you don't do worldly stuff.
Speaker A:That's a form of discipline.
Speaker B:True Christianity would be.
Speaker A:It's discipline.
Speaker B:Yeah, it's a discipline.
Speaker A:It's a discipline.
Speaker A:So that is.
Speaker A:Discipline is like the, the gateway to actually.
Speaker A:Okay, well, are you ready?
Speaker B:Well, it's the, the simplest way to submit your will to do something else.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:That's right.
Speaker B:And then ultimately you're submitting your will to do the will of God because you're doing what God wants for you, you know, in order to become a better version of you so that you can do more and do better.
Speaker A:That's right.
Speaker A:You know, and there's gradients.
Speaker A:It's like Islam is a steeper gradient than Christian.
Speaker A:Like, as far as what you.
Speaker A:The discipline goes.
Speaker A:Yeah, there's more discipline and conventional, quote, unquote, Islam, Islam than there is in Christianity.
Speaker B:I would say that those two disciplines are relatively the same.
Speaker B:It's just about who taught them to you.
Speaker A:Pork.
Speaker B:Well, I guess they're not supposed to.
Speaker A:No, that's right.
Speaker A:It says no actually straight up in the.
Speaker A:It says don't eat pork.
Speaker A:You're right.
Speaker A:No, absolutely true.
Speaker B:And so if somebody gives you their interpretation of Christianity.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Then you'll be sitting up here eating pork.
Speaker A:That's right.
Speaker B:Just like they gave us their interpretation of who Jesus was.
Speaker B:And for a long time we was praying to some white guy named Caesar Borgia.
Speaker A:And we still are.
Speaker B:I mean a lot of them are.
Speaker A:A lot of them are.
Speaker B:A lot of the world still praise the Caesar Bor.
Speaker A:I'm gonna say, yeah, Jesus didn't stop being white just because we started building the kingdom, bro.
Speaker A:Like, nah, that's definitely a thing.
Speaker A:It's not gonna go away tomorrow.
Speaker A:But all we can do is just prove the absurdity of that.
Speaker B:I would even argue that name is tainted because I don't care who you are, when you close your eyes, you think about the name Jesus.
Speaker B:That's the first thing that pops into your head.
Speaker B:You could fight it.
Speaker A:No, that's real.
Speaker A:Absolutely.
Speaker B:You could try to make yourself see the black Jesus if you want to.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Jesus.
Speaker A:That's not.
Speaker A:Yeah, but that is a Roman.
Speaker A:I wish I had the like the, the history of the actual Jesus word.
Speaker B:I mean we know that there was no such thing as a J whenever that that character was alive.
Speaker A:Well, we do know his name.
Speaker A:And Yeshua would actually do.
Speaker B:That's.
Speaker B:That's what some people say.
Speaker A:Yisa Isa was the Arabic, but Yeshua Y. Yahweh was God.
Speaker A:I think that was never Jesus.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:Yahweh's Allah.
Speaker B:It depends on who you ask.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Yeshua.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker B:Cuz I heard that it said like he calls himself Yahweh at some point, but it was like really?
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker A:I don't, I'm not a. I, I think that answer exists this somewhere.
Speaker A:I was like, I really want to.
Speaker B:Know to me that that goes in alignment with Ye are all God's children of the most high God.
Speaker B:So like it.
Speaker B:It wouldn't shock me.
Speaker B:But yeah, to me it's like all of that separate interpretation.
Speaker A:But I, I do get you.
Speaker A:But that's part of, you know, that's like home field advantage for Satan is like you use his language, you're going to get use.
Speaker A:That's what it is.
Speaker A:It's his language.
Speaker A:Yeah, okay.
Speaker A:Yeah, it's my language.
Speaker A:Yeah, duh.
Speaker A:When you think Jesus, you're going to think Caesar boy.
Speaker A:You think to think a white guy.
Speaker A:Cuz I created that Word specifically for that purpose.
Speaker B:I created that language to confuse you.
Speaker A:I create, literally created this language to control you.
Speaker A:The English language is a language of spells and confusions to keep.
Speaker A:Man, we got this world on the chokehold, bro.
Speaker A:To keep us in chains and on top.
Speaker A:And that's on top of the calendar.
Speaker A:So calendar you got, you know, you can control seconds, minutes, hours.
Speaker A:You control time in the calendar.
Speaker A:That's a lot.
Speaker A:Then after that you got English, Latin.
Speaker A:That's a lot.
Speaker B:No, it's chains on chains on things.
Speaker B:When you start thinking about the holidays and the birthdays and you start thinking about how, you know, we work these jobs in order to pay bills, pay taxes and, you know, by the time we get done, we don't have no money on the end if we're still working.
Speaker B:If we're just working a job.
Speaker A:That's right.
Speaker B:Like that's the point is exactly it's.
Speaker B:And then if you have anything left over now, you're saving it to go on a vacation where you're just spending it on some bullshit.
Speaker A:That's right.
Speaker B:You're not, you're not investing that money into no land.
Speaker B:You're not, you know, working on getting yourself or your children.
Speaker B:Nobody's out here planning for their children's future like they think they are.
Speaker A:They're.
Speaker B:They're putting them through college.
Speaker B:But realistically, if they don't have a plan for them to go to college, what are they going to college for?
Speaker B:You know, to be a.
Speaker A:To be a worker.
Speaker A:Yeah, to be a worker for Satan and ideally be a worker versus one of Satan's good companies.
Speaker A:And to be fair, I was one of those eager beavers, bro.
Speaker A:I couldn't wait to work for Satan.
Speaker A:I remember like being like, man, I can't.
Speaker A:Don't want to work for this corporation.
Speaker A:And like really being super excited to like apply for jobs at Pepsi and Walmart.
Speaker A:I remember that and like, it was like an honor.
Speaker A:And I'm not even knocking because I remember like, it was, it was driven.
Speaker B:As far as jobs go.
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah, no, I was like, I was so excited to have like a good corporate job.
Speaker A:And that's why I was talking about, like being in that mode.
Speaker A:Remember that mode was like, you got the service mode and then you got just like the good worker mode, which isn't a bad mode, but it's just doesn't have the service.
Speaker A:And you're not, you're not going to be free in that mode.
Speaker A:You're just going to be a really good worker.
Speaker B:And I remember and to excel at that, you have to give it all of yourself.
Speaker A:Exactly.
Speaker A:But the end of the day, it's a treadmill and it's still slavery.
Speaker A:And I remember wanting to be a slave.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Not to despise, not to disparage anyone with a corporate job.
Speaker A:Not to disparage my previous self because it was me making strides in that mode of working activity, a profit, we'll call it profitable activity, that allowed me to realize its futility and pointlessness.
Speaker A:That brought me to my knees, brought me to Allah, and then got me into the state of mind where submit your will to the will of Allah and make thy Lord thy exclusive object, which was the theme of Savior's Day.
Speaker A:I was thinking about that.
Speaker A:That's what it was.
Speaker A:Make that.
Speaker A:What a perfect time to have that message.
Speaker A:Make that.
Speaker A:It's very simple.
Speaker A:Make thy Lord thy exclusive object and make our neighborhoods a clean and safe.
Speaker A:Make our neighborhoods a cleans.
Speaker A:Clean and decent.
Speaker B:I don't remember.
Speaker B:Yeah, I've heard decent before, though.
Speaker A:I think it's decent.
Speaker A:Make our neighborhoods a clean and decent and safe place to live.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:What?
Speaker B:In this hour, everybody else heard, make our neighborhoods as in where they are.
Speaker B:Yeah, I heard.
Speaker B:Make our neighborhoods as in make a new neighborhood.
Speaker A:I don't want this neighborhood.
Speaker A:No, sir.
Speaker A:No.
Speaker A:Make our neighborhoods a clean and safe and decent place to live.
Speaker B:Capital Make.
Speaker A:Make.
Speaker A:Make is not that.
Speaker A:It ain't the move.
Speaker A:Right now.
Speaker B:I want grand ground up infrastructure, every.
Speaker A:Aspect of my life ground up.
Speaker A:But we have.
Speaker A:There are enough black people on land in American land.
Speaker A:To do what?
Speaker A:To do it overnight, which is if we operate with that purpose.
Speaker B:No.
Speaker A:Yeah, that's all it would take.
Speaker B:We just got to get started.
Speaker A:The My exactly have that mindset.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker A:Okay, let's be.
Speaker A:Let's be real.
Speaker A:Is there anything in this hour.
Speaker A:Is there anything more than make thy Lord by exclusive object and make our neighborhoods a clean and safe place to live anymore?
Speaker A:As far as operating procedures.
Speaker B:What do you mean?
Speaker A:Like, I'm just like, in this time in which you live where people see, like, it's really getting hot.
Speaker A:If I were to tell someone, like, okay, two.
Speaker A:Two things to go and move out on.
Speaker A:What more do you need than that?
Speaker B:No.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:You feel what I'm saying?
Speaker B:And like, the reason why I heard heavy emphasis on make.
Speaker B:Yeah, capital make is because when you really think about how safe can you make a neighborhood in the middle of a city with millions of people, like, how safe can you actually make that?
Speaker A:That's a good question.
Speaker B:You know, like, Even.
Speaker B:Even boarding up your windows.
Speaker B:Like, you cook your bean soup inside your house, and you got hungry people on both sides of you and above you and below you.
Speaker A:I understand.
Speaker B:You're gonna have a problem.
Speaker A:Oh, I hear what you're saying.
Speaker B:They haven't eaten.
Speaker A:City.
Speaker B:You give.
Speaker B:You give it a week to people who do not fast at all.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:And then they smell bean soup.
Speaker A:That's a wrap.
Speaker B:People for miles fighting over your pot.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:No.
Speaker A:How safe is a city?
Speaker A:Yeah, man, we haven't.
Speaker A:Yeah, we haven't.
Speaker A:We haven't tested that one yet.
Speaker B:No.
Speaker A:Will we.
Speaker B:I mean, I don't want to.
Speaker A:No.
Speaker A:No one wants to.
Speaker A:What would I think?
Speaker A:What.
Speaker A:What would it take?
Speaker A:Would it.
Speaker A:Would it take, like, some sort of attack?
Speaker B:During the pandemic, I literally sat there, like, how I got too many windows in my house.
Speaker A:How.
Speaker A:How.
Speaker A:What were you asking?
Speaker B:How do you defend your.
Speaker B:How do you defend this perimeter and then be able to still sleep at night?
Speaker A:Good question.
Speaker B:You know?
Speaker A:Good question.
Speaker B:Not to mention I got a wife that I got to defend.
Speaker A:And also, like, we.
Speaker A:We assume that if something bad were to spark like that, that people would be more, like, out to get you.
Speaker A:Or would it be the opposite effect, where people be like, okay, let's band together and figure out how we're really going to do things?
Speaker B:I don't know.
Speaker B:Banding together only works if you have resources.
Speaker A:That's real.
Speaker A:No, I feel you.
Speaker B:Because if you don't have resources, everybody's.
Speaker A:Desperate, and then it's not every man for himself.
Speaker A:So you're right.
Speaker A:Then it's not banded together at that point.
Speaker A:It's banditry.
Speaker A:Everyone's a bandit.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:So I. I did it.
Speaker B:I did a thought experiment for, like, the last.
Speaker B:It was like, last year, I didn't have a car, so last year, I was catching a lot of Ubers.
Speaker B:Every Uber I got into, I would ask, man, it's crazy out here.
Speaker B:What.
Speaker B:What do you.
Speaker B:What would you do if, you know, everything hit the fan, like, tomorrow, man, I'm gonna.
Speaker B:Give me a piece.
Speaker B:I'm Go door to door and just find out what I need to find.
Speaker B:Like, you gonna go into other people's houses in a time where everybody's desperate?
Speaker B:You know how many people have guns that are unregistered in this city?
Speaker A:That's what that was.
Speaker A:A lot of people's answer.
Speaker A:They're gonna just go.
Speaker B:A lot of people.
Speaker B:Young males.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Women would just.
Speaker B:I don't know.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker B:But men, they absolutely planned to go.
Speaker A:Door to door and Go raping and pillaging.
Speaker B:Just.
Speaker B:Yeah, I'm gonna get it.
Speaker B:How I gotta get it, you know, that was the answer.
Speaker A:Okay, that's good.
Speaker A:Okay, that's good.
Speaker A:That's, that's good research.
Speaker A:Yeah, that's good to know.
Speaker B:And I told every single one of them the same thing, bro, don't do that to yourself.
Speaker B:Yeah, I was like, you gonna be one of the ones that's gone in the first couple months.
Speaker A:That's real talk.
Speaker B:Go get you, go, go start saving up some water right now while you got time.
Speaker B:Yeah, save you some beans, save you some rice.
Speaker B:Just put it in a corner somewhere and don't think about it.
Speaker B:Yeah, it'll hold you off for a time.
Speaker A:But what that lets me know is you answered it, is that time type of mentality is going to take out that type of mentality.
Speaker B:It will.
Speaker B:But again, that goes back to being in the city.
Speaker A:I understand.
Speaker B:Being in the city, that type of mentality is going to be all around you.
Speaker A:I understand.
Speaker A:You know, but if and, and say,.
Speaker B:Say here's another thought.
Speaker B:Say you do defend yourself from the first two or three.
Speaker B:How do you not let it be known to everybody around you that you have the ability to def.
Speaker B:Defend yourself so that they don't prepare stronger for you for the next time they come to you?
Speaker A:That's a very plausible hypothetical, sir.
Speaker B:Yeah, there's a lot of plausible hypotheticals out there.
Speaker B:And to me the city just sounds like a horrible place to be.
Speaker A:I feel you.
Speaker A:I'm not going to argue that point.
Speaker A:I'm just going to say like, okay, well what, what I know to be true is if we make the Lord our exclusive object, the answer for what to do in the that situation will be very clear.
Speaker A:And it's likely in that situation people of like minds will be communicating and talking about what we going to do.
Speaker B:Especially people who have the, the clarity to start practicing fasting now.
Speaker A:Exactly.
Speaker B:They know they can go a couple days.
Speaker A:Exactly.
Speaker B:And still be able to think clearly.
Speaker A:So here I'll be say this on the record.
Speaker A:What makes us such a threat to Satan is, is the fact that we not only have the discipline, the knowledge, we have the infrastructure now.
Speaker A:So when it does go off, we're gonna.
Speaker A:People have already put in their minds when it goes off, I'm talking to them, I'm hollering at them.
Speaker A:So that's why we're successful, because we do pro, very public, very vital, very loud pro survival activity.
Speaker A:And if you do that on a widening sphere, you're going to not only be successful, but you're going to be people's refuge in times of turmoil.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:That's what we are.
Speaker A:And it's not that we are, it's Allah is the refuge.
Speaker A:We are his stewards of his word.
Speaker B:And people see that in your activity.
Speaker B:They see that in your, in your energy and the way you present yourself.
Speaker A:That's right.
Speaker B:When you are the clean looking glass, you are more appealing.
Speaker A:That's right.
Speaker A:And people see it with our work.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Work and consistency in the community.
Speaker A:And that's what the most valuable thing about what we're doing is like.
Speaker A:Regardless of how you feel about any one individual personally, you can't say without a shadow doubt that all of us are not working for the community.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A: And then what we're doing at: Speaker A:It is very much, much for the community.
Speaker B:Absolutely.
Speaker A:All aspects of it.
Speaker B:You don't work that hard and not be self sacrificing.
Speaker A:That's right.
Speaker B:You know, the, it's back breaking work, you know, and it don't necessarily pay off the way it's supposed to.
Speaker A:No.
Speaker B:You know, but you do it enough over time and you know, the benefits will be ev.
Speaker B:Evident.
Speaker A:Absolutely.
Speaker A:And what Allah has blessed me with is like making me, pulling me out of that mode of profit seeking mode and being like, no, no, no, no, bro, your wealth is in what y' all have created and nobody can take that from you.
Speaker B:I was just having a conversation the other day about generational wealth is like, you know, if you don't create something that you can pass down, not necessarily a building, not necessarily like, you know, physical assets, but, but a knowledge, things that you've attained that you can actually teach to someone else.
Speaker B:Like you don't like.
Speaker B:That's the what, what you're doing dies with you.
Speaker B:And it didn't really have value like that.
Speaker B:That's right.
Speaker B:When it, when it has value like that, it will transcend you.
Speaker B:That's right.
Speaker B:It needs to be passed down.
Speaker B:It'll be evident, you know.
Speaker A:That's right.
Speaker B:And that's, you know, kind of the lesson that a lot of them, that's the, that's the lesson that a lot of us don't understand and the reason why we're slaves because they've convinced us to put all of our energy into their basket versus creating our own basket.
Speaker A:Absolutely.
Speaker A:Yep.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And I, I think that joining the nation or just submitting to the teaching minimally, it teaches you that you are the basket but are the basket.
Speaker B:Each of us are supposed to be our own basket.
Speaker B:Instead, we're over here weaving the basket of some billionaire.
Speaker A:Weaving the basket of.
Speaker A:Billionaires are just other people that have come to America and have the initiative to work hard.
Speaker A:And you're just like, all right, well, we got it.
Speaker A:I'm going to jump on their basket.
Speaker A:I don't.
Speaker A:I'm not a basket.
Speaker A:I don't even know how to make a basket.
Speaker B:Imagine you're putting all this energy to be paid money that has no value.
Speaker B:Like, the dollar bill has always been like fiat currency, and you're just slaving away most of your life for it.
Speaker A:That's damn near everybody.
Speaker B:Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker A:I. I don't have to imagine.
Speaker A:And I see it.
Speaker A:I see it in.
Speaker A:It's.
Speaker A:I'm glad we've came to this realization that.
Speaker A:That we're not old men.
Speaker A:Having this realization, like, we're men.
Speaker A:It's like, okay, well, you're young enough.
Speaker B:To do something about it.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:It's like, okay, well, if I'm dying and I got all this money.
Speaker A:Money, But I don't have.
Speaker A:I had no purpose.
Speaker A:I have.
Speaker A:I have no, like, spiritual infrastructure, no system leave behind, like, man, what did I do?
Speaker A:I'm about to just die.
Speaker A:And it's.
Speaker A:It's over.
Speaker B:And that's just it.
Speaker A:That's just it.
Speaker B:But when you.
Speaker B:When you.
Speaker B:When you create something and you know, or when you.
Speaker B:When you start striving towards creating something of value and then you look back and you say, oh, that was valuable enough to pass down, you're able to, like, feel at peace.
Speaker B:You're able to, like, oh, I could go now.
Speaker B:I could go without feeling no kind of way.
Speaker B:Because, like, I added value to this thing.
Speaker A:That's right.
Speaker B:You know?
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:I'm not saying I'm there by any stretch of the imagination, but that's what the goal is.
Speaker A:That's right.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:No, to.
Speaker A:To add value to something that, you know is going to be infinite.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And, like, luckily, I could say we're.
Speaker A:What a blessing it is that we now live our lives knowing that, okay, we're on that ship, and that ship is guided by Allah, and there's nothing you can do to stop it.
Speaker A:One thing that I do love this podcast for is it's just like, it remind.
Speaker A:Oh, yeah.
Speaker A:Like, you're not going to stop.
Speaker A:Is how easy it is for just to get two mics and have a conversation about something that could literally free someone from trillions of years of slavery.
Speaker A:It's real.
Speaker A:And I'm just.
Speaker A:That's, like, one thing that has come through, you know, me being humble this year is like, oh, man.
Speaker A:All I knew.
Speaker A:All.
Speaker A:All I need to do is be in that mode of service, and Allah will guide me.
Speaker A:And sure enough, we're on this podcast again.
Speaker B:No.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:I've been praying for this.
Speaker A:It's, like, a lot.
Speaker A:My prayer has really been guide my goals, guide my service.
Speaker A:And all of it's just made us like, oh, Allah sent me, my cousin, to help me, like, get clean up my whole.
Speaker A:Whole apartment.
Speaker A:Shout out to my cousin.
Speaker A:Oh, you met Rory.
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker A:My savior's day.
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker A:So she helped me clean this entire apartment.
Speaker A:She gave my children, like, chore charts, and she gave them the system to do chores around the house.
Speaker A:And I could put my children to work because I forgot I have children that could work now because I've been trying to just do everything myself.
Speaker A:So now, like, they be doing chores now.
Speaker A:There's, like, there's order and management and structure in the household.
Speaker A:And all of a sudden, we're on this podcast.
Speaker A:And, like, what I do remember is, is when I'm doing this podcast, we're on our own time.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Remember that feeling now I'm like, oh, man, we've been missing out on this.
Speaker B:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker B:This is therapy.
Speaker B:This is.
Speaker A:This is where I got.
Speaker B:Where we consolidate the thoughts that we've been having.
Speaker A:Yep.
Speaker A:And then now.
Speaker A:And then the beautiful thing is, like, now that we've had the experience of, you know, build actual building now.
Speaker A:Okay, what is building?
Speaker A:Like, when we're doing this and building and keeping it balanced and keeping it all la la.
Speaker A:Because without this conversation, without having that balance, you just.
Speaker A:We get caught up in that mode of working.
Speaker A:Working money, money, work, work, money, work, money, work, money, work money.
Speaker A:Bills, bills, bills.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Now it's like, you know, those are obligations, but it's Allah.
Speaker A:Allah.
Speaker A:Work bills.
Speaker B:Very much that.
Speaker B:That system of buckets that I have.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:This bucket has been empty.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:For three years.
Speaker A:That's right.
Speaker B:I ain't put no water in it.
Speaker A:Ain't put no water in it.
Speaker A:And all of a sudden, like, now I'm.
Speaker A:I wear my uniform.
Speaker A:I wore my FY uniform.
Speaker A:I've been wearing it every Sunday.
Speaker A:I'm check.
Speaker A:I don't stay at the mosque.
Speaker A:I go and I check in.
Speaker A:I catch some words, and I go and push my.
Speaker A:Push my final calls in the parking lot, and I get to getting.
Speaker A:Go to the store.
Speaker A:If I gotta go, I go Study.
Speaker A:I talk today.
Speaker A:I was like, I did that.
Speaker A:I talked to you.
Speaker A:I was like, we good for tonight?
Speaker A:I set up plans for the night, and here we are.
Speaker A:The thing is, it's like the pathway to the Lord is never going to be, like, absurdly complicated, like a corporate plan.
Speaker A:You feel me?
Speaker A:That's the devil.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Allah makes it easy.
Speaker B:He does.
Speaker A:He makes it very easy.
Speaker A:He's like, first and foremost.
Speaker A:Okay, don't do stupid.
Speaker A:Second and foremost, stay connected to me.
Speaker A:Actually, stay connected to me is number one.
Speaker B:When you think about the fact that the animals submit to Allah, the trees,.
Speaker A:The plants, everything is submission.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:So they don't even have to have intelligence to submit to a lot at all.
Speaker B:We got intelligence and we can't figure it out.
Speaker A:I understand, but that.
Speaker A:What.
Speaker A:That intelligence is deceptive.
Speaker B:It is.
Speaker A:And it's programmed by Satan and it's programmed by our program.
Speaker A:I'm not going to chop it up to Satan within us.
Speaker A:That's the.
Speaker A:That's why we created that Satan within us.
Speaker A:It's like, so we don't have to submit.
Speaker A:So we have.
Speaker A:We have that intelligence that talks to us, that gives us like, oh, well, I don't gotta submit.
Speaker A:I'm iblis.
Speaker A:I don't gotta submit, man.
Speaker A:I don't want God's cool.
Speaker B:But it's like the terrible twos where you're like, discovering that there is an eye and is different than you.
Speaker A:That's right.
Speaker B:You know, and.
Speaker B:And.
Speaker B:And understanding what that really means takes a while.
Speaker A:Absolutely.
Speaker B:You know?
Speaker A:Absolutely.
Speaker B:And.
Speaker B:And at the end of it, you come back to, like, there is no I, there is only God.
Speaker A:That is it.
Speaker A:That's all there is.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:And it's like.
Speaker A:It.
Speaker A:It's.
Speaker A:This recent new version of me is making me really confront, okay, I'm rebellious, you know, which means that I rebel against what's going wrong.
Speaker A:But then when something's right, since I'm in that mode of rebellion, then I'm gonna be rebelling against what is.
Speaker A:What is right, which means I'm going to be rebelling against God.
Speaker A:So I've realized that's been my character.
Speaker A:That's been who I am for many, many lives.
Speaker A:I just feel, oh, man, that's.
Speaker B:That's your default setting.
Speaker A:That's me.
Speaker A:I'm.
Speaker A:I'm rebellious.
Speaker A:I'm like, okay, rebel without a cause.
Speaker A:I'm a rebel.
Speaker A:I'm just a rebel.
Speaker A:Which means I'm the devil.
Speaker A:I'm like the.
Speaker A:I'm like the best devil.
Speaker A:And I'm also Like the best guy.
Speaker A:I mean it's like bipolar, bro.
Speaker A:Like man.
Speaker A:Huh.
Speaker A:That explains exactly who I am.
Speaker A:And I do, I literally do feel like two faced.
Speaker A:Like, okay.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And I look at my, I'm like, I take it make it science, bro.
Speaker A:I'm like, huh?
Speaker A:I did my DNA.
Speaker A:I'm like 40% Western European, Caucasian.
Speaker A:You know, both my parents are identify as black, but I just, I came out light skin.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker A:My DNA is actually 40, which means I'm 60.
Speaker A:Black man, original man, 40 God or Satan?
Speaker A:God.
Speaker A:Whatever.
Speaker A:Satan.
Speaker B:It's in there.
Speaker A:It's in there, bro.
Speaker B:And I'm like, it ain't going nowhere.
Speaker A:It ain't going nowhere.
Speaker B:It's about mastery of it.
Speaker A:That's right.
Speaker A:And I'm like.
Speaker B:And you master it through discipline.
Speaker A:I, I'm not even saying I'm done.
Speaker B:Mastering it, but it do master it through discipline.
Speaker A:That's the only way.
Speaker A:But it really just made me think about man.
Speaker A:I literally and I am the physical representation of who I am and who I've been.
Speaker A:You know what I'm saying though?
Speaker B:No, but that's, that's the reason why Master fraud Muhammad came as a half original man, bro.
Speaker A:Absolutely.
Speaker B:Show us.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:There ain't no excuses.
Speaker A:None.
Speaker B:He could do it.
Speaker B:You could do it.
Speaker A:That's right.
Speaker A:You know, and I, I, I, I literally feel it and I, and I get it because it's like we have to master it.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:And I feel it gives me just a unique perspective on devil because it's like I can't, I can't point my finger because like, no, all of whatever I don't like is definitely in me.
Speaker A:And not only is it in me, I'm responsible for it.
Speaker B:Oh yeah.
Speaker A:You feel what I'm saying, bro?
Speaker A:It's a different type of like awareness and what it does for me, it's, it's humbling.
Speaker A:But it's also.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:It's just a.
Speaker A:How do I say this?
Speaker A:That Allah gives us this opportunity to discover who we are and what we've been so we could further refine self to become Allah.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:You feel what I'm saying?
Speaker A:That's what I feel.
Speaker A:It's like, okay, no, no, I'm going to make you confront, confront this devil because you are the devil and you have been the devil and you've created your mindset that you embody of rebellion.
Speaker A:Because we're gonna simplify it.
Speaker A:In the most words, Devil is rebellion.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Of which I still and think I'm the master of rebellion.
Speaker A:So like Allah was like, okay, well, now I'm gonna make you confront that and ask, where did that come from?
Speaker A:Were you one of those original angels that rebelled against God in the beginning.
Speaker A:Beginning of time?
Speaker A:You know what I'm saying?
Speaker B:All of us were exactly black people in America.
Speaker B:Absolutely.
Speaker A:Absolutely.
Speaker B:You went through the transatlantic slave trade and.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:You got ancestors who got raped.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:That's happened, huh?
Speaker B:That's a part of our history.
Speaker A:That's right.
Speaker B:So, yeah, absolutely.
Speaker B:We were all part of the tribe of Yaku.
Speaker A:That's rebel.
Speaker B:We got that in us.
Speaker B:We.
Speaker B:We also got the original man.
Speaker A:Yes, sir.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:We also.
Speaker B:We also also got, you know, we're.
Speaker B:We're not.
Speaker B:We're not any one thing.
Speaker B:We're a culmination of absolutely trillions of years of history.
Speaker A:Absolutely.
Speaker B:To get to this point.
Speaker A:Absolutely.
Speaker B:You know, God.
Speaker B:God created himself and he set himself on this path towards perfection.
Speaker B:We're just part of the path.
Speaker A:That's right.
Speaker B:You know, we're in alignment.
Speaker B:And we're either we're focusing on the part.
Speaker B:We're focusing our energy on the part that needs to be cut away, or we're focusing our energy on the part that needs to be, you know, grown and.
Speaker B:And accelerated.
Speaker A:Absolutely.
Speaker B:You know, and that's a choice.
Speaker A:It is a choice.
Speaker B:And everything that you do, it's a choice.
Speaker A:And anything that is fighting for survival is going to be clawing and kicking and screaming.
Speaker B:Oh, yeah.
Speaker A:And that's what we're dealing with is like the falling way of Satan within self.
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker B:It's.
Speaker A:It's brutal.
Speaker A:But I have to.
Speaker B:But when you resonate with God.
Speaker B:Yeah, it feels good.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:The more it falls away, the better you feel.
Speaker A:Yeah, it's like a cancerous or.
Speaker B:When you resonate with the devil, it creates anxiety and grief.
Speaker A:I think that is.
Speaker A:That's the cause of anxiety and grief is.
Speaker A:What is there.
Speaker A:What is there to be anxious about with Allah?
Speaker A:If everything's a law, what is there to be anxious about?
Speaker B:That part.
Speaker A:That's where it comes from.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:That part of.
Speaker A:That part of self that needs to fall away, that's just resonating with something in.
Speaker B:Where does.
Speaker B:Where does greed come from?
Speaker B:But.
Speaker B:But like the.
Speaker B:The lack of understanding that God provides everything that you need.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Everything else is just once absolute man.
Speaker A:That is real, you know?
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Like the.
Speaker B:The air is free, the sunlight is free.
Speaker B:The water is free.
Speaker B:The food is technically free.
Speaker A:Technically free.
Speaker B:You.
Speaker B:You just need the convenience of a grocery store.
Speaker B:So now you got to pay for it.
Speaker A:Now you gotta Pay, you know, but.
Speaker B:You don't need that.
Speaker A:You don't need that.
Speaker A:And there really could be a society where you don't all your like, needs.
Speaker A:You could do that.
Speaker A:Everyone could do it themselves.
Speaker B:And I mean, imagine that.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker A:That is heaven.
Speaker B:Imagine.
Speaker A:I think that's heaven.
Speaker B:Imagine if you and.
Speaker B:And 10 of your friends all grew food and everybody specialized in growing the food that they like the most.
Speaker B:And y' all just trade it and you sold your surplus so that none of y' all had to pay bills.
Speaker A:I think.
Speaker A:I think that's.
Speaker A:That's actual heaven, and I think that sounds like heaven.
Speaker A:I think we've been there before and I think we have experience.
Speaker B:I see it crystal clearly.
Speaker B:Like it's my future, but I live there.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:I just need to walk into it because what is.
Speaker A:And I think Satan is the enemy here.
Speaker A:You know, he gets.
Speaker A:In order to make himself relevant, he has to get in between what you need and what.
Speaker A:Make himself relevant.
Speaker B:Well, his.
Speaker A:That's money.
Speaker B:His version of hell is what we want.
Speaker A:Absolutely.
Speaker B:And our version of hell is what he's given us.
Speaker B:But we think it's heaven.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:O.
Speaker B:You know, and so, like, I don't even get mad at him.
Speaker B:I just understand that philosophically we think different.
Speaker A:Yes, sir.
Speaker A:You know, and that's by design.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:We were.
Speaker A:We created that to look at what it is and what it produces.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:And to make that choice, do you want to rock with that or do you want to be with Allah and build the world, the kingdom, Living in.
Speaker B:The middle of nowhere.
Speaker B:That sounds boring.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker B:That's what I want.
Speaker A:Yeah, I understand.
Speaker B:I want to live away from all of the debauchery.
Speaker B:You know, I want to create my own forms of entertainment because what we got here is some crap distraction.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:It's not even.
Speaker A:It's just.
Speaker A:It's trash.
Speaker B:Yeah, it's trash.
Speaker A:I.
Speaker A:Man.
Speaker A:No, it's.
Speaker A:I would now argue that it wouldn't.
Speaker A:It would take not much motion on all inhabitants of planet Earth to make that world.
Speaker A:Wouldn't take much at all.
Speaker B:I don't think so.
Speaker A:At all.
Speaker B:No.
Speaker A:At all.
Speaker A:Literally.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker A:The little.
Speaker A:The only reason.
Speaker A:Oh, okay.
Speaker A:The only reason why we're not doing that is because the Matrix.
Speaker A:The Satan's programming.
Speaker A:The Matrix.
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker A:So Satan has to have.
Speaker A:Have distractions, have all of the Matrix so that we don't do that.
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker A:That is Satan.
Speaker A:That's why it doesn't happen.
Speaker A:Because Satan loses his power if we're not plugged into his infrastructure.
Speaker A:Spiritual and Intellectual infrastructure, bro.
Speaker B:Growing food is so easy.
Speaker A:It's so easy.
Speaker B:It does all the work.
Speaker B:Yeah, you just water it.
Speaker A:You water it does all.
Speaker B:It does all the work.
Speaker A:Does all the work.
Speaker A:It does all the work.
Speaker B:And we've been, been tricked into believing that we got to do all the work and go pay for the food.
Speaker A:And then think about this, growing our food to the principle of fasting.
Speaker A:And then you look at planet Earth, they, they, they throw that word.
Speaker A:The word is the world is over populated.
Speaker A:Which is absurd.
Speaker B:If you drive 30 minutes in any direction, you'll see how there's nobody outside of the city for miles and miles and miles.
Speaker A:Nobody there.
Speaker A:There's nothing over popular about this planet.
Speaker B:There's just.
Speaker A:They, too many people on this planet is to meet too many people that had to be programmed into the matrix and it's overwhelming.
Speaker A:So let's just cut them.
Speaker B:No, it's just hard to control large numbers.
Speaker A:Exactly.
Speaker B:And the larger numbers for us is a good thing.
Speaker A:Absolutely.
Speaker B:It means that, you know, at least some of us can slip through the cracks and find a little bit of heaven.
Speaker B:The large numbers for them means that they won't be able to control everybody.
Speaker A:It's a management problem.
Speaker A:It's a man.
Speaker A:And they don't want to do it.
Speaker A:So let's just call the population, let's give them all shots.
Speaker B:Let's call them, call them useless eaters, use some eaters.
Speaker A:Okay, we'll give them a shot.
Speaker A:They won't die immediately.
Speaker A:They'll die like 20 years earlier than they should and then we'll blame something else for that.
Speaker B:Exactly.
Speaker B:No, exactly, that's the plan.
Speaker A:And it will work.
Speaker A:And people will be like, oh my God, we got this cancer epic.
Speaker A:I wonder, wonder where it came from.
Speaker A:Not the, not the MRNA virus vaccine.
Speaker A:No, no, no, not that, that can't be bad.
Speaker B:No, they've been doing it to the water, they've been doing it to the food, they've been doing it to, you know, everything around us.
Speaker A:Absolutely.
Speaker B:That's, that's again the argument for no cities is like the air that we breathe is, is filled with all of the cars exhaust.
Speaker B:All around us all day, every day.
Speaker B:It's just all over us, all over.
Speaker A:Us all the time.
Speaker B:You remember how, how clear the skies were during the pandemic?
Speaker A:Oh my God.
Speaker A:It was, the beauty, it was heaven.
Speaker A:It was beautiful.
Speaker B:I've lived in LA my whole life and I've never seen downtown look that pretty ever from my house, which is 10 minutes from downtown, ever.
Speaker B:You can See every single building.
Speaker B:I can see clear to the Hollywood sign.
Speaker A:It was.
Speaker A:It was astonishing how beautiful it was.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And I remember being, running, doing, feeling like, feeling free.
Speaker A:I remember not.
Speaker A:I remember that freedom is what led me to doing all this.
Speaker A:It's like, man, I feel like I'm.
Speaker A:I feel like I'm live.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:I could do whatever I want.
Speaker B:Yeah, exactly.
Speaker A:That's exactly what I felt like.
Speaker A:And it led.
Speaker A:Sure enough, it led to this.
Speaker A:And it's funny viewing that freedom to where we all now, now we got.
Speaker A:We had.
Speaker A:We went from lockdowns, and now we're like.
Speaker A:The first iteration of podcast was like the, The.
Speaker A:The pandemic podcast.
Speaker A:This is like, yeah, World War 3 iteration, whatever we'll call it that iteration.
Speaker A:But it's just seeing where we were to where we are now, it's like, oh, no, it's just like seeing Satan used that time to revamp and reboot and to actually have a new strand, new, new strategy for going into this next period of time.
Speaker A:But Allah has a plan that will surpass him.
Speaker A:And luckily we're on a lost team, because while Satan was making plans, so were we.
Speaker A:And it just so happens that our plans are on this podcast on record, and that we're.
Speaker A:We're living in those plans and now we're ushering out the new stratosphere of that plan.
Speaker B:Oh, yeah.
Speaker A:There's nothing Satan can do about it besides listen and be a hater.
Speaker B:Yeah, that part.
Speaker A:That's what it is.
Speaker A:He literally can't.
Speaker A:He can't stop us from doing this.
Speaker A:He can't stop hieroglyphs.
Speaker A:He can't stop the black man from being God.
Speaker A:He could distract you and make you think that he's God to the degree.
Speaker B:That you allow him to.
Speaker A:Exactly.
Speaker B:You know, and the fact that we're putting the plan out there, the fact that we're, you know, we're working the plan actively, it means that the plan is supposed to happen.
Speaker B:The plan is going to happen.
Speaker B:And even if they take us out, the plan still do.
Speaker A:It's.
Speaker A:It exists.
Speaker A:You can go and find this podcast on Apple podcasts and any really main media, and you'll be able to get some game gangs and cancel and do what we do.
Speaker A:And no, the thing is, now is a proof of concept.
Speaker A:Now you know that it works.
Speaker A:So all you got to do is just continue doing what we do and we.
Speaker A:We're blessed enough to give you the game and get.
Speaker A:Let you know what to read and.
Speaker A:But it's here Instagrams anything.
Speaker A:It's.
Speaker B:It's all out there, there and 2,000 years into the future.
Speaker B:This is, this is the gospel of, of the slaves of the Americas.
Speaker A:That's right.
Speaker A:No, we're building the above ground railroad.
Speaker A:Like really, like not, you know, it's here.
Speaker B:They still, they struggle towards, you know, physical change.
Speaker B:Then they struggle towards spiritual trains, and then they struggle towards mental trains and chains.
Speaker B:And now they've taken off the chains.
Speaker A:That's right.
Speaker B:You know, in the story.
Speaker A:No, and it's like, you know, this is, this is the beginning of that mountaintop that Martin Luther King said he saw.
Speaker A:You know, I believe he saw it.
Speaker A:I believe because he said he saw it before he got killed.
Speaker A:So I believe Allah showed him, like, okay, look at what you're a part of.
Speaker A:This is gonna happen, bro.
Speaker A:Regardless, you're here or not.
Speaker A:It's gonna happen.
Speaker A:You did your job.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:And it's here.
Speaker A:And I really, I just look, look up.
Speaker A:Not just what we're doing, but like, it's pretty natural and common for black people to be like, you know, I'm gonna buy black.
Speaker A:You know, it's like not even like a thing anymore.
Speaker B:They start.
Speaker B:Black people are starting to understand.
Speaker A:Yeah, it's like, no, it's like the masses of black people, like, oh, man, it's a cool thing.
Speaker A:I'm going to put black at least minimum.
Speaker A:I could do that.
Speaker A:I can do that.
Speaker B:It's a beautiful thing.
Speaker A:They're not in the Nation of Islam.
Speaker A:Not in the masses, but enough for like, I don't know, I want to, it's good to support our people, but, you know, it's our job just to keep on pushing, pushing it forward, being the vanguard of our people and then setting the infrastructure for our people to flow up and to.
Speaker A:Yeah, that's it.
Speaker A:And there's no, there's not a competition here.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Because it's wide open fields.
Speaker B:I mean, I'm pretty sure I've already discussed this on this podcast, but it, it, I, I, when I had the meditation with my father and he told me, like, you know what you're supposed to be doing?
Speaker B:Do it.
Speaker A:This was, he was alive physically.
Speaker B:No, this was when he, this is after he's passed.
Speaker B:This is a dream.
Speaker B:When I went on that, I went on that retreat to Atlanta, I was gone for like a week or two.
Speaker A:For the, the, the security job?
Speaker B:No, it wasn't a job.
Speaker B:It was like a little retreat.
Speaker B:I just went on like a boot camp type retreat.
Speaker A:Oh, with the brothers, right?
Speaker B:Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker B:So, yeah, we did, like, a meditation.
Speaker B:And I had this little.
Speaker B:This vision of my father.
Speaker B:And, like, I didn't immediately get everything that I was understanding in the vision.
Speaker B:It was just a strong feeling.
Speaker B:But, like, as I thought back on it, over time, it started to see him.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Oh, sick.
Speaker B:No, it was like.
Speaker A:He looked good.
Speaker B:He looked like my father.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker B:You know, I remember he.
Speaker B:Remember he looked exactly like I remembered him.
Speaker B:He was okay, cool, happy.
Speaker B:Not.
Speaker B:Not.
Speaker B:Not towards the end, Father, where he was starting to be more miserable.
Speaker B:But.
Speaker B:But when we were in our prime, he was just.
Speaker A:He's happy.
Speaker A:Happy, happy, like jolly.
Speaker B:He was like.
Speaker B:He was like.
Speaker B:The feeling or the.
Speaker B:The download that I got later was like, this is something I've always had in my heart.
Speaker B:Which.
Speaker B:What you're doing is what I've had in my heart.
Speaker B:And not just what I've had in my heart, but what my dad had in his heart.
Speaker B:He's like, you're not doing something that's new to you.
Speaker B:You're standing on top of my shoulders.
Speaker B:Standing on top of his shoulder.
Speaker B:Standing on top of his shoulder.
Speaker A:That's what.
Speaker B:This is what we've wanted.
Speaker B:And he was like.
Speaker B:And he's like, and you're gonna be the one to do it, and I'm gonna be with you every step of the way.
Speaker A:Oh, man.
Speaker B:And it was just like, I know what I gotta do now.
Speaker A:That's cold.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:And that.
Speaker B:That coming on.
Speaker B:On.
Speaker B:On the shoulders of like.
Speaker B:Like on the.
Speaker B:On the back of like, Like.
Speaker A:That's motivating.
Speaker A:Yeah, that's really motivating people.
Speaker B:But people, like, telling me that I shouldn't have.
Speaker B:Have even gone.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:People telling me like, you don't know those people.
Speaker B:You could be anything.
Speaker B:I was like, this is where I'm being called to go.
Speaker A:And I'm absolutely.
Speaker B:And so I'm following what I think is what I'm supposed to be doing right now.
Speaker B:And, you know, I don't.
Speaker B:I have no regrets.
Speaker B:Like, I'm.
Speaker B:That was one of the most powerful, inspiring things I've experienced in my life.
Speaker A:And that's real, bro.
Speaker B:You know, it set me on the path.
Speaker A:That's right.
Speaker A:You know, we're here, we're hearing it.
Speaker A:Yeah, man.
Speaker A:No, that's real, bro.
Speaker A:I'm just thinking I haven't had anything like that.
Speaker A:Like that visceral.
Speaker A: ad's father passed when I was: Speaker A:On not his birthday, but on maybe Father.
Speaker A:Oh, no, no, My birthday, I had a dream where like, he was in my apartment sitting there in a rocking chair and being like, ah, bro, I got you.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:No, that was the vibe.
Speaker A:You feel me?
Speaker A:That was the vibe.
Speaker A:Like, ah.
Speaker A:He's like, like, ah, nah, I ain't going nowhere.
Speaker A:Nah, this is not just your, like, not just your journey.
Speaker A:Like, nah, bro, we with you.
Speaker B:No, like, so we with you, bro.
Speaker B:There was a moment in.
Speaker B:In the.
Speaker B:The meditation where I looked at my father and I was like, he's like smiling and I'm like.
Speaker B:For a second I got upset and the feeling that I was giving off was like, but why did you leave me?
Speaker B:And the response that I got, not necessarily right then, but the response that I got, like, in revisiting the thought or the dream of it was like, don't worry about that.
Speaker B:I had to leave you so that I could be with you.
Speaker A:Day real, bro.
Speaker B:It's like.
Speaker B:It's like I'm now with you wherever you go.
Speaker A:That's real.
Speaker B:So you ain't got to be afraid, cuz I got you.
Speaker B:And it was like that.
Speaker B:That put a different level on me.
Speaker B:Like, yeah, you know, like, that's the reason why I'm able to go camping on my land by myself.
Speaker B:Like, I don't give a damn no more.
Speaker B:Like, I fear no one but Allah.
Speaker A:That's right.
Speaker B:And I know what that word means now.
Speaker B:Like, that's right.
Speaker B:You know, fear is a.
Speaker B:Is.
Speaker B:Is the mind killer.
Speaker B:Fear stops you and you.
Speaker B:Your tracks if you allow it to.
Speaker A:That's right.
Speaker B:And so I don't.
Speaker B:I don't walk that way no more.
Speaker B:You know?
Speaker A:O man, it's crazy that you and Timu have that.
Speaker A:That both your fathers have passed.
Speaker A:And with him, with.
Speaker A:I. I experienced when his father passed.
Speaker A:It was a very.
Speaker A:It was a very spiritual, not an awakening, but just like it was an event for me because it affected my reality and what I saw.
Speaker A:And I just saw the future.
Speaker A:I saw, like, what we're doing.
Speaker A:And it took me a while to realize.
Speaker A:Realize.
Speaker A:Not a while.
Speaker A:I think, like days to realize.
Speaker A:Oh, man.
Speaker A:That culminated with the passing of his father.
Speaker A:I'm like, no, his.
Speaker A:His father is literally your father.
Speaker A:His father, my grandfather.
Speaker A:All black men.
Speaker A:Oh, yeah.
Speaker A:Black men.
Speaker A:Like, no chocolate.
Speaker A:My granddaughter was blacker than you, bro.
Speaker A:Like, super black.
Speaker A:You know, this ain't the.
Speaker A:No, definitely.
Speaker A:But I'm like, no, they're all like on the same team.
Speaker A:They probably all know each other pretty well.
Speaker A:Like, I know they are all one.
Speaker A:They are all.
Speaker A:And they are pushing us and they, they really got us, bro.
Speaker B:Yeah, we really.
Speaker A:And I'm glad we have.
Speaker A:It's nice to be able to reflect on that because, you know, we're.
Speaker A:We're attention is on Allah, like specifically the person of Allah a lot.
Speaker A:But, you know, they're all on now too.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:But they're also there.
Speaker A:The beautiful thing about being like in that realm is like, you know, they still.
Speaker A:They still have the ability to be that individual, you know, I mean, that.
Speaker B:But that.
Speaker B:I feel like that exists mostly in our minds.
Speaker A:I feel you, you know.
Speaker A:No.
Speaker A:Oh, you know, them being that form that.
Speaker A:Yes, No, I feel you, bro.
Speaker B:That residual form that they had in our lot, in our living, in our time.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:That part is as, as long as we hold it.
Speaker A:That's right.
Speaker B:When we let it go, they, they.
Speaker B:They don't have to live like that.
Speaker A:No, no.
Speaker B:You know, their existence is eternal.
Speaker A:That's right.
Speaker A:It's a law.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:It's just, it's.
Speaker A:It's.
Speaker A:It's at a form of Allah that we can relate with.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:That we need.
Speaker A:It hits different.
Speaker A:It's Father.
Speaker A:It's like, well, Allah is the father, but it's different.
Speaker A:When Allah is the father and actually is your father that gave birth.
Speaker A:That gave birth to you.
Speaker B:I think it makes the connection to the Creator stronger.
Speaker A:Absolutely.
Speaker B:Having a relatable connection.
Speaker A:That's real, man.
Speaker B:You know?
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:When you can.
Speaker B:When you can like actually like look back and like, okay, that one is the next.
Speaker B:And then past that, maybe not so much.
Speaker B:It's not as clear, but that one holds me.
Speaker B:That one, you know, that's the conduit, man.
Speaker A:And it's making me think like, also, eventually we're gonna be in that mode.
Speaker A:You know what I mean?
Speaker A:And we're gonna have to be doing this to our.
Speaker A:Whoever follows after us.
Speaker B:And that's why you don't have fear.
Speaker B:That's why the fear doesn't exist at all.
Speaker B:Like.
Speaker B:Like, I don't.
Speaker B:I don't like to get too personal, but even the idea that like, I don't have no children yet.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:I don't have that fear of like, I'm supposed to.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Or I don't get, like, I should have it.
Speaker B:But my thought is if that's what's supposed to happen, that's what's gonna.
Speaker A:That's real.
Speaker A:No, that's real, bro.
Speaker B:And.
Speaker B:And my legacy isn't depending on blood.
Speaker B:Bloodlines.
Speaker A:That's real.
Speaker B:That's something that you think when you Think physical.
Speaker A:That's right.
Speaker B:That's something that you think.
Speaker B:That's something that.
Speaker B:Respectfully, that's what the devil thinks.
Speaker B:It's all about genealogy.
Speaker A:That's right.
Speaker B:And nepotism and passing it down.
Speaker A:Absolutely.
Speaker A:Through blood, through physical.
Speaker A:Do something physical.
Speaker B:I don't have that fear.
Speaker A:No.
Speaker B:For me, it's like I'm just here to do the work.
Speaker B:And if what I do is powerful enough, it will continue well past me.
Speaker A:You'll have spiritual children.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:And I, I.
Speaker B:This version of me doesn't need to be remembered.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Allah.
Speaker A:That's right.
Speaker B:Is all.
Speaker B:O the all in all.
Speaker A:That's it.
Speaker B:You know, so all praise is due to him.
Speaker A:All praise is due to Allah.
Speaker B:I don't need it.
Speaker B:What I'm gonna do with it when I'm not physically person.
Speaker A:That is a very real, like, desire we talked about, like the desire for the bag, but also the desire for physical children.
Speaker A:You know, that's also, also another motivation thing that we drive for.
Speaker B:But, and, and if it's not, if, if it's not properly understood, it also can be a distraction.
Speaker A:Absolutely.
Speaker B:If you don't, if you don't put the right energy out there, if you don't understand who you are, know thyself,.
Speaker A:You know, then you're just putting obligations that are just going to keep repeating the cycle that really keep repeating the cycle that aren't in the mode of service.
Speaker A:You're just like, okay, we're just creating other bodies.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:They don't got no purpose.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Because you didn't have a purpose.
Speaker B:I was having this conversation with my wife and she was like, she didn't.
Speaker B:She doesn't want our children to have to, like, be typ.
Speaker B:Cast into whatever things that we're doing.
Speaker B:And it was like, I, I had to understand that she doesn't understand that the things that I want to be doing are the things that are in alignment with God.
Speaker A:I understand.
Speaker B:I'm not thinking about it from, from a capitalistic perspective where, like, you know, it's just about the money.
Speaker A:Ah, yeah.
Speaker B:For me, it's about the mission.
Speaker A:That's right.
Speaker B:And it's like, yeah, I don't care what aspect of the mission my child takes on.
Speaker B:My child don't have to be a cook because I'm a cook.
Speaker A:That's right.
Speaker B:My child don't have to be a farmer.
Speaker B:Because I'm a farmer, my child has to pick up the mission.
Speaker A:Amen.
Speaker B:You know what I mean?
Speaker A:Amen.
Speaker B:That's where I'm at.
Speaker A:Like, Oh, I, no, that, that's real, bro.
Speaker B:17 Million or more dead to the Lamb of God.
Speaker B:That's where I want my child to be focusing in energy.
Speaker A:Exactly.
Speaker B:I mean, I don't care if the my child becomes a tycoon in the business aspect, as long as it's geared and focused on the mission.
Speaker A:Which is the lucky thing is what makes so beautiful being in the nation is our mission is to service is literally serving Allah.
Speaker A:Yeah, like, there's no, like, okay, we got the mission.
Speaker A:We also gotta, okay, what does God want?
Speaker A:It's like, no, it's very one in the same.
Speaker A:So besides, submitting our wills to the mission by default makes us submitting our wills to the will of Allah because as we know through knowledge and experience that that is very much Allah's will.
Speaker A:So get with the program.
Speaker A:And I do think as long as you're having children with the mindset of, okay, now that you have this knowledge and we have the light, it's like, it's okay to have children.
Speaker A:But are you having them with that mindset of like, I'm going to put my children to.
Speaker A:I'm going to have them for the purpose of putting them in the mode of serving Allah and getting them to submit to the mission.
Speaker A:That's the purpose.
Speaker A:It's not to have children.
Speaker A:To have them be rich.
Speaker A:It's not to have children because to see how pretty they are.
Speaker A:It is making children that serve the Lord and to build his kingdom.
Speaker A:Yes, that is the purpose.
Speaker A:And honestly, having that purpose will probably get any of us the children that we want.
Speaker A:Want at the time that Allah wills it.
Speaker A:Because you're, you're.
Speaker A:Your purpose is right.
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker A:There we go.
Speaker B:And that's not to say that I won't teach my children how to farm.
Speaker B:I won't teach my children how to cook.
Speaker B:Like, I will absolutely pass down all the information that I have so that they have a leg up and you know, they can, they can have something to fall back on if they needed to because this life is, you know, allows the best of planners.
Speaker A:That's right.
Speaker B:But it's like, I'm not doing, doing that.
Speaker B:I'm not doing that for the reasons that this world would assume that I'm doing that.
Speaker A:That's right.
Speaker B:I, I'm not so physically, you know, attached to the concept like that.
Speaker A:I get it.
Speaker B:You know, I think it's important to like help your children and to give them the best leg up in this world that you can.
Speaker B:But I think the most important thing is the Mission.
Speaker A:It's the mission.
Speaker A:So that tells me automatically if, like, if you ain't with the mission, like, why are you having children?
Speaker A:You know, I don't think, I don't.
Speaker B:Think anybody has a reason.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Nowadays, like, not nobody.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:And with my son, I'm not gonna say I had the mission.
Speaker A:No, I wasn't with the mission.
Speaker A:I had my son, but no, none of my children.
Speaker A:I had.
Speaker A:I was like, I'm gonna, I did not procreate with the intention of putting children to the mission.
Speaker A:I'd be very honest about that.
Speaker A:Very honest.
Speaker B:I think that's, I, I think that that's like, like less than 1% of people on the planet today understand what the mission is to the degree that they're having children specifically to put them in towards the mission.
Speaker A:Yep.
Speaker B:I think most people are having oops babies.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Oopsie babies.
Speaker A:Absolutely.
Speaker A:Myself included.
Speaker B:Two out of three oopsy babies, to me see like the difference between a oops baby and specifically trying to have a child so that that child can be a part of the mission.
Speaker B:That's like the how to give birth to a God thing.
Speaker A:That's how to give birth.
Speaker A:That's how you do it.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Step one.
Speaker A:What do you align your purpose with Allah?
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker A:Step two, have that purpose when you're procreating?
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:No, and I feel like, I feel like part of the reason why Allah hasn't put, you know, that responsibility on me yet is because I'm still philosophizing about what that means.
Speaker B:I'm still working out how that, how that works.
Speaker B:You know, like, I understand certain aspects of the mission and how it pertains to me, but once I've crystallized it and made it a physical reality, I think that's when it'll be something that I can pass down.
Speaker B:That's when it'll be valuable to me to actually have children.
Speaker A:Have you not made it physical reality yet?
Speaker B:I mean, I'm working towards it.
Speaker B:I'm, I'm, I'm the vision that I have.
Speaker B:I'm on step like one.
Speaker A:Understood.
Speaker B:Versus where I plan to be.
Speaker A:But you're in the mission.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:You're in it and it's physical.
Speaker A:It's not just Cat, you're actually doing it.
Speaker B:Yeah, but this is, this isn't, this isn't anything compared to where, you know, the amount of work that I have.
Speaker B:And I, I, I anticipate as tired and as stretched thin as I am right now, I can't like, slow down by any, any.
Speaker B:I got More work to do.
Speaker A:That's right.
Speaker B:You know, at the.
Speaker B:The efficiency just has to grow.
Speaker A:That's right.
Speaker B:You know, I have to get better at what I'm doing to the point where I'm able to stretch myself even thinner.
Speaker A:That's right.
Speaker B:And.
Speaker B:And not break.
Speaker A:That's right.
Speaker B:And so, you know, you know, we.
Speaker A:Know the solution to not break and just a lot.
Speaker A:Just.
Speaker A:Yeah, that's it.
Speaker B:It.
Speaker A:You know, I mean, but you still got to sleep.
Speaker A:You feel me?
Speaker A:You can't.
Speaker A:You can't just only be online working 24 7.
Speaker B:No.
Speaker B:Even Master Rami slept four hours a day.
Speaker A:Hey, bro.
Speaker A:He slept, he prayed, and he slept.
Speaker A:So that show he's like.
Speaker A:And he studied.
Speaker A:So that should.
Speaker A:No one is immune from the laws of material nature, bro.
Speaker A:Material universe.
Speaker A:You gotta, you gotta, you gotta.
Speaker A:There's certain things one must do.
Speaker B:No, you got to continue to pour into each of those buckets.
Speaker A:That's right.
Speaker A:That's right.
Speaker B:And whichever bucket you ain't pouring into is the bucket that's almost was empty.
Speaker A:You know, we got the memo.
Speaker A:It was like there was one bucket that we.
Speaker A:We were.
Speaker A:We were low key, neglecting.
Speaker A:Now we're like, nope, that's the first bucket.
Speaker B:I got a couple buckets I'm neglecting right now.
Speaker B:I ain't did nothing for myself in a minute.
Speaker A:I understand.
Speaker B:You know.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Self care is important.
Speaker B:I understand that.
Speaker B:I do need some like me time, but I'll take that when I get a chance.
Speaker A:I understand.
Speaker A:And that time will come.
Speaker B:Yeah, absolutely.
Speaker A:Speaking of time and speaking of rest, I think it's time to call a night.
Speaker A:Unless you have any other further bars.
Speaker B:It's definitely sleepy time.
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker A:When you said that you called at me.
Speaker A:It's like, okay, we said enough.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:And I feel.
Speaker A:I feel like we've got it off.
Speaker A:We have a good sleep and we can get back when the Lord calls us to.
Speaker B:No, I'm good.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Yeah, me too, bro.
Speaker A:Okay, well, let's close out.
Speaker A:You want to close this out?
Speaker B:I can do that.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker A:Yes, sir.
Speaker B:Bismillahirrahmanirrahim alhamdulillah Rabilameen Rahman Rahim Maliki Omadiyakina.
Speaker B:Ola we beseech you up in actual mercy.
Speaker B:We believe in you and trust in you for all that we need.
Speaker B:We are helpers in your cause and with your apostle, please grant to us success.
Speaker B:Thank you a lot.
Speaker B:And we cannot thank you enough.
Speaker A:I mean, oh, Allah, God, I rest.
Speaker A:Guide our mission.
Speaker A:Guide our submission to your will.
Speaker A:Give us the power to bring forth into this physical reality which you have called for.
Speaker A:Give us the power to move forward for you, not through ego.
Speaker A:Give us the energy, give us the encouragement and give us a light to do what needs to be done in this hour.
Speaker A:We love and serve you alone.
Speaker A:I mean.