Laura and Xhafer rank the himbos of BSG. Laura wonders when Tyrol had time to shave his beard. Xhafer pitches for a Tushy sponsorship. This episode covers Battlestar Galactica Season 3, Episode 3: Exodus, Part 1.

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Hello and welcome to Who Are You?

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We're a reasonably well done sci-fi

watch cast by a couple of former

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strangers, now friends who are watching

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I'm Laura.

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Xhafer: And I'm Jair,

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Laura: Yeah.

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And how are you?

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Jair?

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Xhafer: I'm sick.

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I am on day four five of co.

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Well, okay, so I had a cough on Monday.

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It is Saturday.

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I am still sick.

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My cough on Monday was not bad.

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I worked Monday and Tuesday,

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Laura: Uhhuh.

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Xhafer: Wednesday, Thursday, Friday.

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I did not, could not work.

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Laura: Yeah.

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Xhafer: Like I know it's bad.

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I play the LinkedIn puzzles every day.

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Right.

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Laura: Oh, I've heard of these

things, but I have not done them.

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Xhafer: I, I really enjoy 'em.

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Uh, but it's like something I do

at like six 30 in the morning.

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I get up, I go to the bathroom

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Laura: Mm-hmm.

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Xhafer: and I just like take a minute

for myself before I'm doing anything

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and I do the LinkedIn puzzles, right?

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And, and that's just like

how I like to start my day.

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It's like how I like to wake

up is like, oh, let's, let's

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wake the brain up a little bit.

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Right.

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Laura: Sure.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Xhafer: I don't mean to

be braggadocious here.

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I typically do well at the puzzles, right.

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I've learned the tricks.

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I've learned the things that they're

trying to make you do the little,

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like Sudoku style logic things.

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It means this thing

means that thing, right?

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I've learned a lot of

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Laura: is a famous puzzle, man.

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Xhafer: I do enjoy my puzzles.

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I typically do pretty well.

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it will tell you like how well

you've done in relation to everyone

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who's done the puzzle so far.

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and so I'm normally like doing

really well and this last couple

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of days I have not been doing well.

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taking me two, three times as long

as soft puzzles as it normally does.

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And that's like my indication now in

the morning that it's gonna be a bad day

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because my brain is just running on fumes.

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Laura: Uhhuh.

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Xhafer: And it's just like, okay,

maybe I shouldn't go into work and

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try to do advanced mathematics.

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If,

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Laura: Right,

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Xhafer: is gonna be a problem right now,

maybe I'm not gonna be able to do my job.

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Laura: Yeah.

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Xhafer: Uh, even working from

home, like, it's just like, ugh.

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Laura: it's like a foggy brain.

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Xhafer: Have you ever

pushed yourself too far?

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Like in accounting?

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I feel like this is something

where you could do it too.

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The same with coding, where you'll

make a mistake and three days

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later you will find that mistake.

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And it is more work to fix that

mistake than it is would've been

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Laura: To just do it,

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Xhafer: just do it.

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Right.

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Laura: Yeah.

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Mm-hmm.

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Xhafer: That's the kind of that kind

of problem that you make for yourself

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Laura: Mm-hmm.

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Xhafer: a hundred percent of the time

with this kind of a thing when you're

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trying to do any kind of coding.

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So

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Laura: This is hilarious because I

literally had that moment yesterday where

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I discovered mistake I made many days ago.

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That messed up my data set for analysis.

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Xhafer: Oh, I'm sorry.

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That's a bad day.

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Laura: Yeah.

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So I was like trying to un

untie those problems yesterday

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and it took me several hours.

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I think I have untitled the problems,

but I am now trying to rerun the code

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that I built, like hoping that I don't

have to make more changes down the line.

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Xhafer: I mean, if it's just,

if it's column mistakes,

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you might run into problems.

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If it's raw mistakes in your

data set, you're probably fine.

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But yeah, that's the kind of thing you

wanna avoid, which is why I've taken

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most of this week off work and just

been, I played a lot of Hades too.

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Laura: Cool.

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Xhafer: Which is a really good game.

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I played enough Hades two while I was sick

and before I was sick to have beaten it.

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I didn't uh, perfect

ending it for listeners.

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I did get the credits though, which

is beating it like 15 or 20 times.

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Laura: Uhhuh.

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Xhafer: 'cause it's that kind of a game.

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And uh, yesterday I was just all like,

I really wanna play Ghost of Fi and I

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haven't been able to go buy it because

I've been sick since it's came out.

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So I said fuck it and bought

it on digital, which is

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something I try not to do.

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I like to buy digital copies of

games or physical copies of games.

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Always

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Laura: Mm-hmm.

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Xhafer: but I said fuck it.

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And now I've been doing that for the

last two days 'cause I've been so sick

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that doing anything else, I'll play a

video game for like four hours, then

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my brain will just be exhausted and

I just can't play the game anymore.

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I'm

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Laura: Brain goes Sleep now.

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Yeah.

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Xhafer: Like put on a movie and take a

nap kind of a thing has been my life.

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That's how sick I am right now.

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And I'm at the tail end of that.

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I did wake up from a

nap about an hour ago.

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I took DayQuil about 40 minutes ago.

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I've been drinking tea.

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This is me at my most optimal right now,

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Laura: yeah.

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yeah.

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Xhafer: well, I hope I make it listeners.

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Laura: we are glad to have you at your

most optimal, I will put out one very

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special PSA before we actually dig into

episode that with all the, like, confusion

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in the world around the CDC being like,

oh, COVID vaccine no longer recommended

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or whatever, I was not sure if I, as a

person under 65, could still get one.

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And when I happened to be at the pharmacy,

I was just like, oh, hey, could you tell

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me if my insurance still covers that?

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And the guy seemed

surprised I was even asking.

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He was like, it definitely should.

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I'll double check.

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And it does.

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And he went ahead and got, gave me a shot.

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So I, I did get that like last

week and it'll be a couple weeks

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later whenever this comes out.

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But if you were feeling like you

didn't understand listener, if you

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could get it, you probably can.

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So go

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Xhafer: can go get shots.

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I'm faxed up.

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Uh, I don't think I got, I, I don't

know if there's been a new COVID

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shot variant since I got my last one.

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I wanna say I got my

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Laura: There was a new one that

came out like this month is what

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Xhafer: Okay.

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I have not had that one, and I

should have, but I just haven't been

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to my doctor and I was not aware.

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Um, so it is, it is not willful

that I haven't gotten the new one.

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Laura: Well, we're glad you're here.

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We're very sorry you're sick

and we hope you get well soon.

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Uh.

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Xhafer: Thank you.

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I hope I get well soon too.

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Laura: We have, you know, the most healing

piece of media to talk about today.

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Xhafer: All right.

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We got Battlestar Galactica.

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Exodus part one.

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You did at my recommendation?

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Watch both.

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Right.

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Laura: Yes.

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It was a long night, but we did, yes.

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Xhafer: Uh, do you regret that decision?

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Laura: Uh, no.

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I mean, I was pretty, pretty

freaking tired this morning

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and still pretty bummed.

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Uh, but when I, we got to the

end of the first one, I was like,

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yeah, I see why he said that.

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Xhafer: Yeah.

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I watched them a day apart and was

just like, we're just doing this one.

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Um, so we'll try to keep things

that in the next episode.

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In next episode.

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If you haven't watched them both.

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I don't think there's anything

particularly that we'll get

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into, uh, that spoils it.

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But just if I say something

that's kind of a little like, Hey,

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that's a spoiler for next episode.

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Sorry.

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In advance.

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Laura: What kind of content

warning do you put on this one?

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Xhafer: God, I don't know.

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Did I write one down?

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I usually try to write one down.

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Laura: I don't know if we need one as bad.

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Well, I guess we, we do

see some eye stuff, so

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Xhafer: There's some i i stuff

is I stuff a content warning.

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I mean, we're not showing I

stuff, it's an audio format.

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So just, just saying I stuff,

is that enough for people?

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I don't know that I, I don't

mean to be insensitive.

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I honestly, I don't know

where the line is with I stuff

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Laura: Yeah.

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Uh, I think next episode we

get some, uh, really more like,

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yes, we could probably put.

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Definitive content warning on that topic.

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Um, but yeah, no le bin's still up

to his shit with, um, kidnapped Uck.

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So there's that.

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Also, if it's gonna be tough,

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Xhafer: yeah.

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Um,

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Laura: away,

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Xhafer: yeah,

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Laura: it's okay.

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Xhafer: prisoner stuff.

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Laura: Yeah,

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Xhafer: next episode's definitely worse.

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Uh, but this one was not great in terms

of Lee Obin being a decent creature.

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Laura: yeah.

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Xhafer: But we open, in the last

minutes of the previous episode, we

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see Jamer grab Callie, set her free,

she's running, we hear the gunshots,

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and then we rewind an hour without

any new information being given to us.

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These rude motherfuckers.

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Laura: We rewind in an hour and.

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yeah, maybe it's clear like when we

get to where we were, it's not clear.

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Like to me

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Xhafer: Nothing's clear to me right now.

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Laura: Yeah, when anything's like, I,

I don't know that, but we have one hour

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guys, everything that is happening now,

we have an hour to get to where we were.

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Xhafer: Yeah.

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And we get to see what happened to a

couple of the characters that we were

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not following at the end of last episode.

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What they're doing,

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Laura: Mm-hmm.

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Xhafer: uh, the salos gets

a new eye patch put on.

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Laura: Oh, and it's so,

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Xhafer: Yeah.

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Laura: so sad, like.

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This is a very tender moment with

him and Ellen of, you know, he's like

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trying to do it, but I guess his depth

perception isn't right with the one eye

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Xhafer: That's what happens.

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Laura: can't put his eye patch

on his face and it's very sad.

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And he is kind of helpless, like in a way

we haven't really seen Saul be helpless.

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Xhafer: Yeah.

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It's sad, like the loss

of the depth perception.

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Uh, I can't speak from

personal experience,

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Laura: Uhhuh.

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Xhafer: but my dog has one

eye and my dog lost an eye,

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uh, a year and a half ago, two

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Laura: Yeah.

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I remember.

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Mm-hmm.

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Xhafer: Um.

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Laura: I don't know if we

talked about it on pod, but.

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Xhafer: Uh, we noticed a, a, a thing

growing in her eye and it started, it,

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we, we watched it basically double in

size over the course of a couple of

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weeks, and we took her to a specialist

and they're like, look, the only

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way we'll know this isn't cancer.

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It's bad.

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Clearly it, it might not be causing

her pain now, but it's going

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too soon and we can't biopsy it

out and have her keep her eye.

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So the eye is going no matter what.

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Laura: Yeah.

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Xhafer: And so it's like, do it.

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And, uh, you know, she recovered fine.

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Uh, but, uh, her depth

perception is so wonky and she's

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like, she's very eager dog.

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She's very eager to greet you at the door,

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Laura: Uhhuh.

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Xhafer: and she doesn't know how

close the door is to her face anymore.

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And so she just constantly, just her,

her head just gets bonked all the time.

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Laura: bless your heart.

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Puffins,

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Xhafer: Yeah.

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She's such a good girl.

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Laura: uh, poor soul, and.

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Xhafer: Yeah.

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Laura: You know, Ellen is very

kind to him here and, um, as she's

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like putting on the iPad, she

like almost confesses everything.

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I think she's ready to tell

Saul what she did while he

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was imprisoned to get him out.

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She's ready to tell him, you

know, I may have made a mistake

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and given them more information,

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Xhafer: Mm-hmm.

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Laura: we're not gonna get that moment.

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'cause Tyrell bust in

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Xhafer: Yeah.

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Laura: a copy of the list

of everyone who's taken.

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And I guess they at this point have

figured out that not only are they

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taken, they're going to be executed.

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Oh, that's because guy signed a

Gaia, signed their execution order.

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Right?

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Xhafer: Yeah.

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So, yeah, he's got the execution

order from Gaia's desk.

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It has where it's like the plan, it's

like got the location and what, what

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they're going to be doing and who

they're rounding up and everything.

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Laura: Mm-hmm.

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So that's probably Gada intelligence.

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Yeah.

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Xhafer: Oh, this has to

be data intelligence.

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Yeah.

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Laura: Uh,

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he is freaking the fuck out.

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but Saul is picture of calm and coolness

and reminds him like, Hey, if you freak

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out, we are not gonna get Cali back.

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Like, you have to be calm

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Xhafer: you're gonna

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Laura: or you are gonna lose her.

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Xhafer: right now and

you're gonna have to do it.

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Right.

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And then you'll be fine because we have

every, the pieces we need to solve this

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puzzle to figure out where they're going.

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Laura: Yep.

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Xhafer: You just need to do it.

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Laura: We have the thing that

decodes the coordinates or whatever.

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'cause he's like talking about,

I don't know where this is.

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And he is like, well, go get the

freaking list and we'll decode it.

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Like, but you gotta do this, you

gotta coordinate your information.

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or your baby is gonna grow up

with me and Ellen for parents

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and that would be terrible.

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Xhafer: Yeah, that is the best

encouragement Saul can offer is

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if you fuck this up that bad,

then Nicholas is gonna get raised

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by us and it's all like, oh God.

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Laura: I'm cracking up.

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'cause I'm thinking like the, that

when we had the, um, what was it, the

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dedication or whatever they called

it, the, the baby baptism basically.

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does that mean they were like, yes, solid.

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Ellen are the ones we

want to be the godparents.

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Like they, they were like,

yeah, this is a good idea,

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Xhafer: I don't think, I mean, you

probably go Duck and Nora, right?

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And

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Laura: but they're gone

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Xhafer: they're gone

now and it's like, uh,

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Laura: Whoopsie.

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Xhafer: Yeah.

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sometimes like it's like, I don't

know, I haven't been a parent, so

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it's hard for me to to say, but

it's just like, you know, which of

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the people that I know what I want.

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Raising hypothetical children.

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There's definitely people that I love

dearly that I would not put on that list.

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Laura: yeah, I think that's

a, I think that's a universal

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experience for everyone.

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We all love someone very dearly that we,

we would not entrust our progeny with.

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Xhafer: no, just like,

I'm not gonna name names.

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Uh, and it's just like, Ugh.

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Mm.

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You sure?

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Mm.

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There might be some better

choices before you get to that.

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Laura: Oh, Saul and Ellen.

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Not at the top of my list.

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Xhafer: not at the top of mind either.

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Laura: Yeah.

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Even though I.

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It, it's hard to say because we have

not had a lot of time with Ellen,

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but I feel like she has learned

something from this experience.

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I feel like she has been changed by the

year and four months on New Caprica.

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mostly the last four months probably.

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Xhafer: definitely a lot more

traumatic than the previous year.

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Laura: yeah.

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I'm sure the previous year had

its own like harshness of like,

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oh, it's cold all the time.

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Uh, we can't grow anything.

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Uh, you know, we're out of

toilet paper or whatever.

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And like, that was probably educational

for a woman like Ellen, but the last four

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months have been the big real learning.

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She does seem genuinely like remorseful

and afraid as she's kind of like slapped

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in the face with all the consequences

of handing over that information, even

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though she's like, she's motivated by

trying to save Saul, but she is very like.

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Blinders on narrow focused

and not thinking about what

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does saving Saul mean really?

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If the rest of everything

falls apart, it means nothing.

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Xhafer: Right.

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Laura: She's just not very smart.

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Xhafer: Uh, we go to theme

still no survival count.

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I don't think we get one

until episode five or six.

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Laura: Okay.

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Yeah, we've got some picking up to do.

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Xhafer: yeah.

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we come back and Tyro figures

out where they need to go.

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He grabs Celick, uh,

to get two more people.

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Has the, they watch

trucks start to move out.

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We cut over to Anders

and Sharon syncing up.

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It's the same as last

episode for a moment here.

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Laura: Yeah.

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Not really anything new here.

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He does make a good joke.

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Xhafer: Yeah.

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Oh.

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With the ICU every day.

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Laura: yeah.

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I feel like I see you every

day and she kind of looks

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like maybe a little hurt, but.

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Also, it's true.

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Xhafer: play.

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Yeah.

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Laura: That's the nature of the thing.

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sorry, Sharon.

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Xhafer: Tyro gets his crew and

they get set up to take out the

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centurion's, but Callie is somehow

running directly in the way.

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Laura: Mm-hmm.

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Xhafer: When we saw earlier, Callie

looked like she was running through

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forest and now she's like running

through barren rocks in directly in line.

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Laura: Uhhuh

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also, it looked like Callie and previously

had been running like downhill, and she's

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very clearly running uphill at them,

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Xhafer: Yeah.

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Like

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I could do some mental gymnastics

of like camera placement and maybe

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there's just forest just to the

right of her that we just don't see

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or something to make it work with

the camera angles and everything.

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It's like that one spot where you can

park your car in neutral and it goes up.

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Like you ever seen one of those tourist

traps or is that just a Michigan thing?

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We have that in Michigan.

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There's a place you can park

your car and put your car in

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neutral and it just goes up and

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Laura: That is not something I've seen.

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No.

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Xhafer: this is, now,

obviously this is an illusion.

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Your car is going down, gravity is

pulling it, but the way that like

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everything is geologically arranged,

you kind of feel like you're

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going up, even though you're not.

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Laura: Weird,

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Xhafer: it's the mystery

spot or something.

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I don't know.

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I figured there was more than one

of these in the United States 'cause

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it's felt very touristy, trappy to me.

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Laura: I don't have one of those.

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Uh, we have a spot in Tulsa

called the Center of the Universe

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that's like super echoey.

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It's a downtown and you just like

stand in this spot and everything

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just echoes back and forth at you.

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It's really weird.

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Xhafer: Huh.

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That's

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Laura: I don't, I don't know if it

was an intentional design or if it

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just like got noticed that like,

oh, hey, this spot is really weird.

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No, never heard of that.

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Xhafer: Okay.

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Well it's in northern Michigan.

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Google it, I guess.

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I don't know.

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Laura: Yeah.

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Kelly's right in the way of them

trying to take out these battle bots.

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Great job, Callie.

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Xhafer: She ran in the exact one place

that puts her in dramatic danger.

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Laura: Mm-hmm.

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Xhafer: Uh, Galen runs out and gets

Callie safe right as Cix and the

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crew open fire, saving the collected

humans from the firing squad.

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Laura: Mm-hmm.

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Xhafer: And at the same time we see

the gunnery sergeant with Sharon's

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squad take out the ambushes.

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they find Ander's Map on a dead silo.

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Laura: Yeah, a dead cavel, right?

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Xhafer: Yeah, it's a dead cavel.

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And he immediately knows.

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It must have been Ellen who saved it

from the fire and gave it to the Cylons.

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Laura: Yeah.

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Anders is a quick boy.

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Uh, he, he knows this is his map.

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This is his handwriting.

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Xhafer: Like the guy like calls out

like, Hey, this is your handwriting

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on this map that these cylons have

immediately question him like, like it

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is, like he's the resistance leader.

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It's like, sure.

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It's like why did the silence have

a map with your fucking handwriting?

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Laura: yeah, I wondered the same thing.

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I was like, why are we

not, uh, like doing a.

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One of those fake, well, okay,

now everybody is thinking mad

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at Anders and thinking Anders is

the betrayer, but we don't even

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seem to make that a whole thing.

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Xhafer: So I have to ask, because

you've been ride or die for

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Team Anders as a silo, was there

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Laura: have,

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Xhafer: I mean, a moment where

your brain was all like, maybe

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it's Anders and not Ellen.

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Laura: you know, it's weird

that I didn't have that moment,

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I guess because we saw Ellen

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Xhafer: we do see Ellen do.

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We know Ellen does this stuff,

like they definitively show

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us Ellen does this stuff.

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So I guess that

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Laura: and she,

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yeah, I, I, I just,

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no, I I didn't think

this was part of that.

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didn't think Anders was any party to it.

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Xhafer: Okay.

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Thought it was worth

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Laura: Yeah.

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I am not changing my.

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Stance on Andrews yet?

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Xhafer: Okay.

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That's fair.

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Laura: Not, not ready to go that far.

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But, I really enjoyed in this like

aftermath of, we're, we're picking up

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here at the quarry and we're, we're

getting all the survivors rescued.

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We get a moment where, uh,

Zurich, really liked being

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thrown to the ground by Rosalyn.

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He definitely liked it.

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Xhafer: Yeah, sure did.

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Laura: Rosalyn saved his life.

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I want them to not be enemies.

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I, I don't know that that's, that.

494

I'm gonna get that, but I want

them to not be enemies now.

495

It was kind of liking their, their

whole energy, these two episodes.

496

Xhafer: Yeah.

497

I can only make the face so much.

498

Um,

499

Laura: Yep.

500

Xhafer: yeah.

501

Tyrell checks in on Rosalyn and Zrich and

tells them that Papa Dama is on the way

502

and they're going home back to Galactica.

503

Laura: Hey, I got a question.

504

I didn't notice it until this moment, but

it must have happened sometime earlier.

505

But when the fuck did

Tyrell shave off his beard?

506

Xhafer: Oh yeah.

507

At some point

508

Laura: I mean, I think it was

there through all the last episode.

509

I don't know now though,

510

Xhafer: he,

511

Laura: but it's definitely

512

Xhafer: What What we

don't see is that hour.

513

Right.

514

And that's just him

shaving the entire time.

515

He's all like, I gotta save Cali, but

first I gotta shave this beard off.

516

Laura: Oh, we do see that not

only did they kill one Cavel, but

517

there is another cavel here at

the quarry that they don't kill.

518

They're just gonna leave him.

519

'cause we don't want him

to download too fast.

520

Then everyone will know

what we've done here,

521

Xhafer: yeah, yeah.

522

I gotta let him die the slow way,

which we'll hear more about later.

523

Laura: Yep.

524

Xhafer: for now, we cut to Deanna having

a obtuse vision of her holding a baby.

525

Real big, uh, resistance

episodes, energy in this shot.

526

Laura: yeah.

527

She's, she's just like hallucinating

about, I think she sees the tent to like,

528

there's a, a weird tent with a bunch of

sticks and rocks and she hears a baby

529

crying and she gets to hold the baby.

530

And it's interesting that

we're having these visions.

531

Xhafer: Yeah.

532

Laura: it will get more interesting

as we go to the weird tent

533

with all the rocks and sticks.

534

Xhafer: Yeah.

535

But first we're over to President

Baltar's Electric, psychedelic

536

Pussycat, swingers Club.

537

he says, you know, that joke worked

better when I don't have a sore throat.

538

Uh, he says Dole is trying to get a

tushy sponsorship for new caprica.

539

Laura: Oh no.

540

First we gotta talk about

how he can't get it up.

541

That's the only reason we're talking in

the first place is for some reason he and

542

six are like gonna do it, but he can't.

543

Xhafer: Yeah.

544

He, he has a conscience that

prevents him from getting erection.

545

Laura: I

546

Xhafer: it was possible for guys.

547

Baltar.

548

Laura: you know, I, there was

some other things that I was like,

549

man, it's, it's amazing what.

550

Gais Baltar's mind will like

warp itself around so that he

551

doesn't have to face anything.

552

Xhafer: Yeah.

553

I mean, this is the guy

who famously has like, I.

554

Had sex with a ghost

in the middle of rooms,

555

Laura: Mm-hmm.

556

Xhafer: of anyone who you would

think would not have a problem

557

given any situation, uh, rising

to the occasion as it were.

558

It would be Gaia volar,

559

Laura: Yeah.

560

Xhafer: Gaia horn dog, Baltar.

561

Laura: gross.

562

He's so gross.

563

Xhafer: He's pretty gross.

564

Laura: he, he does sarcastically

ask her about her day at his

565

office, like basically saying,

you guys are running all my stuff.

566

So I am mad.

567

But yes, he thinks, uh, do

one of the dolls thinks that.

568

Toilet paper is the problem.

569

Xhafer: Yeah.

570

And it's not, they need to get bidets.

571

I'm telling you.

572

Tushy.

573

Hey, we're here.

574

Just throwing

575

it out there.

576

We're right here getting the discord.

577

'cause we're bad at emails and Facebook,

578

Laura: Mm-hmm.

579

Please.

580

I, I think that the listener would be

delighted to see Toshi in the discord.

581

Yeah.

582

Yeah.

583

No sanitation.

584

I don't know.

585

They, the Doral might be onto

something, is all I'm saying.

586

I bet there's an economist out there

who is willing to, uh, research

587

the effect of Toshiba days on,

uh, human societal trust levels.

588

Xhafer: Mm.

589

I installed one in the house

maybe a month and a half ago,

590

and I gotta say morale is up so.

591

Laura: Man, I, I do believe he mentions

at some point that, no, maybe it's not

592

this dole, but there's dole's getting

shot definitely in this episode.

593

And I was like, don't, don't

let those genius ideas have to

594

be, uh, re-uploaded or whatever.

595

That's good stuff.

596

That's gold.

597

Xhafer: yeah,

598

Laura: six is a little cryptic.

599

She asked Gais if he knows

what she gave up for him.

600

I don't know what that was actually,

601

Xhafer: on Caprica, Cylon, utopia.

602

That'd be a weird thing to move

your whole species over for though

603

Laura: for Gais, because

604

Xhafer: of everyone.

605

For

606

Laura: I.

607

Yeah, like the Caprica six way

back in the like mini series.

608

I don't, I don't know that I got

the vibe that she was like that

609

into him, like that, into him.

610

She wanted him to love her, I guess.

611

Xhafer: absence makes the heart grow.

612

Fonder.

613

Absence makes you forget what a douche

bag somebody is maybe might be more apt

614

Laura: yeah, I, I don't know.

615

Is it just like, it's just been

eating at her that she couldn't

616

get his love and so she's back here

also not really getting his love.

617

it has big toxic vibes.

618

Xhafer: sure.

619

Laura: she tries to leave,

but he asks her not to anyway,

620

Xhafer: Yeah.

621

Laura: she doesn't.

622

We get some like, is it six PT music

623

coming?

624

Like, Hmm,

625

Xhafer: Kara continues to watch

Casey as bin watches them.

626

Ick.

627

That's literally all I wrote was ick.

628

Laura: Yeah.

629

She's like, get putting

Casey down to nap time

630

and, he's just creeping on them and,

Casey like grabs Starbucks little

631

pinky finger as she's about to leave,

632

Xhafer: Which is adorable,

633

Laura: it is adorable.

634

Xhafer: but also, is that baby Evil?

635

Laura: Yeah.

636

Leo Obin is definitely evil

for watching all of this.

637

Xhafer: Yes.

638

Laura: He's so gross.

639

Xhafer: He's the worst.

640

Laura: But Deanna finds the tent

with the weird sticks and rocks.

641

Xhafer: Yeah.

642

The Oracle is in there taking some

Kamala, she says it's bitter to

643

swallow, but when you look at the

alternative, it's not that bad

644

Laura: The alternative of not taking it,

645

Xhafer: of not taking Kamala.

646

Laura: Uhhuh,

647

Xhafer: If you had to choose

between Kamala and something else

648

Laura: mm-hmm,

649

Xhafer: and you chose something

else, I wonder if you now regret

650

that decision and maybe the Kamala

wasn't so bitter in the first place.

651

That's all.

652

That's all I'm saying.

653

I mean, candy, she asked for

candy because the taste is bitter.

654

Yeah.

655

Yeah.

656

Laura: Right, right.

657

she's got a sweet rock collection

on the inside of her tent as well.

658

Just so many fucking rocks.

659

Xhafer: It's got, uh,

like rock garden vibes.

660

Laura: Uhhuh.

661

Xhafer: Yeah.

662

Laura: I wonder like this, Oracle has

a name, but I don't remember her name.

663

Xhafer: They say it once,

664

eh,

665

Laura: Yeah.

666

Yep.

667

Started with a DI remember that part.

668

Xhafer: it was in the preview for the

episode, and we heard it there as many

669

times as we heard it in the episode.

670

So

671

Laura: Yep.

672

Yep.

673

I wonder like when she was brought

into the fleet, however she

674

came into the fleet, was she an

oracle at that time, or does one.

675

Go through some stuff and take

some Kamala and become an Oracle.

676

Like I, I don't know,

677

Xhafer: what's the process?

678

How much Kamala do I need to ingest?

679

Laura: Uhhuh.

680

Xhafer: Yeah.

681

I don't think we ever know.

682

Laura: How many people are

running around with Kamala two?

683

Like

684

Xhafer: I mean, Rosalyn was on it

pretty regularly for a minute there.

685

Laura: mm-hmm.

686

Yeah.

687

this, this Kamala seems to really

make a person prophetic because she

688

knows exactly what Deanna's whole deal

689

Xhafer: Yeah.

690

This is like, this is good shit, right?

691

Like this is the spice

692

Laura: Mm-hmm.

693

Yeah.

694

Xhafer: It's like, good, good.

695

Laura: she tells her that Zeus sees

everything, she being the oracle and.

696

Deanna's, like, no, there is no Zeus.

697

There is only the one true God.

698

Or whatever.

699

Xhafer: Yeah.

700

Laura: And the Oracle's like, eh, but

you don't really think that anymore.

701

Xhafer: Gotcha.

702

Bitch.

703

Laura: Oh, we gotta talk

about who this Oracle is.

704

Did you know the

705

Xhafer: No, I didn't clock it.

706

Who is it?

707

Laura: It is Amanda Plummer.

708

Xhafer: Oh, no.

709

Shit.

710

Good for her.

711

Amanda.

712

Plumber's so great.

713

Laura: Yeah.

714

I love, I love a, a creepy

Amanda Plummer in appearance.

715

Xhafer: Yeah.

716

Yeah, she's, she's fantastic.

717

Great actress.

718

Laura: Yeah.

719

Uh, it, it was a little harder to tell

with, she's got like a, not a turban, but

720

Xhafer: She's got stuff on her head.

721

Laura: some hat made of rags

722

that also comes down, like

interesting whole thing going on.

723

Do people come to the Oracle and like give

her money to tell them prophecy stuff?

724

Like,

725

Xhafer: I mean, I mean, you

either bring money or food

726

like necessities, right?

727

Laura: Yeah.

728

Xhafer: Like, I don't know

how their society is set up.

729

No one's got currency, it

seems, I'm guessing that

730

Laura: But they have a market.

731

Xhafer: they're, they're

not at all automated.

732

un luxury space communism.

733

Laura: They're like the worst

kind of subsistence capitalism

734

or something like, Ooh,

735

Xhafer: I mean, if everyone, just,

the people who farm just give

736

their food out and everyone who

does stuff does stuff, then, you

737

know, everyone works for society.

738

I mean, when you've got historically

speaking, communes can handle

739

communism a lot easier than countries.

740

Laura: Sure.

741

Yeah.

742

Xhafer: And, you know, the

743

Laura: We do not have enough

people to have a country, I think

744

Xhafer: I mean, the

population here is like.

745

Green Bay, Wisconsin, smaller than Green

Bay, or maybe bigger than Green Bay.

746

Green Bay is actually a pretty

tiny town, but it's like

747

30,000 something people, right.

748

Laura: probably.

749

Yeah.

750

Xhafer: I can think of a city with like

30,000 something people that I'm aware of.

751

You know, like I, I know how big

that town is, so I, yeah, kind

752

of a scope of things, I suppose.

753

It seems like it'd probably be too

many people for that to work given,

754

uh, how quickly it collapses sometimes,

755

but I guess it

756

Laura: But they're also being oppressed

like by a pretty sinister outside force.

757

So you do kind of like come

together a little bit more under

758

that sort of pressure maybe.

759

Xhafer: and I mean, if you had to

ask me if I thought guys Baltar was a

760

despot dictator when he was just elected

president before the cys were around,

761

Laura: Mm-hmm.

762

Yeah.

763

Xhafer: so.

764

Laura: Yep.

765

Yep.

766

but the Oracle's not concerned with Gais.

767

She is concerned with Deanna knowing that

the fruit of the two peoples is alive.

768

Xhafer: Yep.

769

Hera is still alive.

770

I mean, we knew this, but,

but Zena knows now too.

771

Laura: Right.

772

And, uh, when she holds her in her arms,

she will know true love, but she will

773

also lose everything she's done here,

774

Xhafer: Yep.

775

Laura: so, huh.

776

Xhafer: Yeah.

777

Well, I guess we'll see if that pays off.

778

Next episode,

779

Laura: Right.

780

Xhafer: we get a little ceremony

on the deck before the crews split

781

up between Galactica and Pegasus.

782

Laura: Yeah, this is cute world building.

783

Xhafer: You know, they draw a big line in.

784

On the deck with salt and then

scrub it out and everyone embraces.

785

Laura: Mm-hmm.

786

Yeah.

787

The, the scripture or whatever

they're reading is like that.

788

the situation is trying to divide us,

789

but the, the people will never be divided.

790

They are one.

791

And as the, the line of salt

in front of us, we all just

792

Xhafer: Yeah.

793

Laura: brush it away and we

embrace and hug and know that

794

we are never to be parted.

795

Xhafer: I appreciate this.

796

But also salt is like a terrible

thing to have around a hanger deck.

797

Salt does terrible shit to metal,

798

Laura: You gotta have the good

shop vac ready to go immediately,

799

Xhafer: right?

800

Yeah.

801

Laura: Yeah.

802

Xhafer: Do you think they

had little s Roombas.

803

Laura: especially because not only is salt

and metal, not like great, but like, what

804

if we are, we are on a spaceship, right?

805

What if uh, we lose our gravitational

whatever at some point Now we got a bunch

806

of little grainy shit floating around

807

Xhafer: Yeah,

808

Laura: like, fuck that.

809

Yeah.

810

No.

811

But, uh, we also hear from Hilo and d

you know, Hilo, uh, is ordered to take

812

care of the admiral and Helo orders D to

take care of, I think he says our son.

813

I thought that was.

814

Interesting.

815

Just like everyone under Adama's

command considers Lee their son.

816

I don't know, maybe I misheard that

our audio was kind of acting funny last

817

night, but I wanna think of it that way.

818

Xhafer: I didn't clock that, but

also, I wouldn't trust me to clock

819

fucking anything right now, so

820

Laura: Yeah,

821

Xhafer: I.

822

Laura: but we hear from Lee and Adama also

in the hangar deck, that basically Adama's

823

gonna go in and do this thing and he has,

he has 18 hours to get everybody out and

824

go meet Lee and the Pegasus and the rest

of the fleet at the rendezvous point.

825

and if not, Lee has been given orders

to go find Earth after 18 hours.

826

Like don't wait any longer for us.

827

It will be too dangerous.

828

and Lee tries to like have

the I love you dad moment,

829

but, uh, adama's, like, don't

make me cry on my own spaceship.

830

Uh,

831

Xhafer: It's where you live.

832

It's your house.

833

You are homing

834

from

835

Laura: also, it's also work.

836

Yeah.

837

Don't make me cry at my housework.

838

but they still have a

really touching moment.

839

Like every time Bear McCreary

hits those bagpipes with Lee

840

and Ava, I get misty-eyed.

841

I'm very

842

Xhafer: It's

843

Laura: emotional.

844

So Good.

845

will they make 18 hours?

846

Will they make it?

847

Xhafer: I don't know.

848

We'll find out next episode.

849

But for now, uh, we cut

back to new Capric Co.

850

Where Coddle is performing surgery.

851

He steps out for a smoke.

852

That's nice.

853

I'm guessing the silences made

him do that instead of just

854

smoking in the surgery tent

855

Laura: Yeah, just smoking.

856

Like while he's got the open

patient in front of him, you know,

857

who needs to worry about ashes?

858

Xhafer: like that.

859

We know that they have a

society of not cured cancer.

860

Right.

861

Laura: Uhhuh?

862

Yep.

863

Xhafer: If they had cured cancer and

that was a plot point, and that's why he

864

just smoked wherever he fucking wanted.

865

I would feel very differently about it.

866

Laura: Yeah.

867

Yeah, that's, that'd be

pretty funny actually.

868

Xhafer: it's like, you go get cancer, go

get the shot, whatever, you're fine space.

869

But no, that's not how it goes.

870

Laura: Yeah.

871

Yeah.

872

But it must have been a long fucking day.

873

'cause we're still in surgery.

874

It is nighttime.

875

doc Coddle is going out for

his smoke and sees Deanna and

876

she's playing with the dog,

877

Xhafer: yeah.

878

Laura: the dog.

879

Xhafer: dog, she knows the dog's name.

880

Laura: Yeah, she says

he's a very good boy too.

881

Mm-hmm.

882

I, I don't know if I'm suspicious or not

now, but Yeah, everybody loves a dog.

883

Xhafer: Yeah.

884

Yeah.

885

Laura: he makes some comment to her

about, oh, you can't sleep, huh?

886

You're out here walking the streets.

887

And is a little surprised to learn

that the slim lawns do have dreams.

888

Xhafer: Yeah.

889

Laura: Androids do

dream of electric sheep.

890

Xhafer: Ah, the reference,

891

Laura: and she's still stuck on

Harris's death and the records or

892

whatever they have from Galactica.

893

And she's like, why would

you do that, doctor?

894

Why would you cremate the body?

895

Xhafer: Mm-hmm.

896

Laura: it's the first silent human hybrid.

897

Wouldn't you wanna.

898

Wouldn't you wanna poke around at that?

899

Xhafer: He's like, uh, 'cause

fucking Rosalyn told me to fuck off

900

Laura: yeah.

901

Yeah.

902

Xhafer: Above my pay grade is the best

answer that Coddle could possibly give.

903

Laura: I love all his non-answers

related to her too, because like

904

when he was talking to Sharon, he

was like, gave, I would never kill

905

a patient or something as an answer,

which is, uh, technically correct.

906

and yeah, the wasn't my call to cremate

the body as technically correct.

907

but she's like weird about it.

908

And like smears the blood

on his surgical outfit

909

and says something about how it's funny

that all the blood looks the same, doesn't

910

matter if it's silent or, or human.

911

And I think in their conversation,

it seemed like he was operating

912

on a silent right now.

913

Right?

914

Because

915

Xhafer: That was kind

of the, the implication.

916

Yeah.

917

Laura: yeah, a five had gotten injured

in maybe the, maybe the quarry thing was

918

what he was talking about or something.

919

else.

920

and that's, that's like what he's

doing in the middle of the night

921

is having to operate on a silo.

922

But he's not discriminatory.

923

He doesn't refuse to operate on

silos like he's due and no harm,

924

as best he knows how.

925

Xhafer: Yeah.

926

I mean, it's confusing to Deanna

because their philosophy is just

927

like letting us feel any pain at all.

928

Just kill us.

929

Like it's easier,

930

but yeah, she doesn't quite get it,

but you know, that's their ways.

931

Laura: Mm-hmm.

932

And, uh, we get to learn a little bit

more about that in the downloading and

933

stuff because we cut to Colonial One.

934

And this, I don't quite understand.

935

Caval is doing his big wine about

the experience at the quarry and

936

the downloading experience that

he's not finding pleasant anymore.

937

But he's also like, they left

me in the hot sun to die.

938

And I was like, everything

that you've told me about this

939

planet is that it's like cold.

940

Like people are always bundled up.

941

Uh, the sky is always gray, like.

942

The hot sun Cavel.

943

Come on.

944

Don't be a whiny bitch.

945

Xhafer: Yeah.

946

Well, I mean if caval is

nothing else but a whiny bitch.

947

Laura: Yeah.

948

but Cavel tells us that

like he had to find a spent

949

Xhafer: Mm-hmm.

950

Laura: use that to like slit

his own throat or something.

951

Xhafer: Yeah.

952

He says he goes first carotid artery, so.

953

Laura: Yeah.

954

So that he could go ahead and

die and download and this is

955

like his third one or something.

956

And it's getting worse each time.

957

He doesn't like it.

958

Xhafer: Yeah.

959

Laura: Hmm.

960

Xhafer: Yeah.

961

Laura: That seems like

it could be a problem.

962

Xhafer: Yeah.

963

I wonder if that will

be a plot point later.

964

Laura: Adjust glasses.

965

Gaas is like trying to, I, I guess,

lean into their discomfort and be like,

966

yeah, it fucking sucks here, doesn't it?

967

Maybe you guys should fucking leave.

968

Xhafer: Yeah,

969

and it's like janna's, like, sure.

970

We'll just leave and

nuke the city from orbit.

971

Laura: yeah.

972

Dole's like, well, we just

need to crack down harder.

973

And six is like, with what?

974

So we find out that yes, this group of

silences who is here, whether it's all

975

the cys or not, it's, well, it's obviously

not all of the sirens, but we don't know

976

how many else exist in the universe.

977

they're pretty stretched,

stretched, pretty thin.

978

Can't, uh, can't do any more

than we're already doing.

979

Xhafer: Yeah,

980

Laura: So, nuke it.

981

Xhafer: just fucking nuke

982

Andrew and Sharon, the details

of the civilian evacuation

983

and their parts to play in it.

984

Anders is getting the pilots in

place while Sharon gets the car

985

keys from that drawer by your

desk where you keep the spare.

986

You know the one Anders asked

her to look out for Starbuck as

987

well, just 'cause she's been gone

for months on months on months.

988

Laura: Yeah.

989

He, he's hoping that they can

get her out of this compound.

990

and he's a real multitasker because

as he's doing all these, like, escape

991

plans, he's also having Ellen seized.

992

Xhafer: Mm-hmm.

993

Laura: We cut to Rosalyn, telling

Anders to keep Maya and her hidden.

994

I wonder, this seems like a flashback

to me, like this happened maybe at

995

the beginning of the occupation.

996

Xhafer: well, it's specifically their part

in the, uh, escorting them off the planet.

997

Laura: Because I thought he was

saying, don't worry, we're gonna

998

move her every couple of weeks.

999

Like, we're gonna, keep this really

tight to the chest for you, but kind

00:46:00,335 --> 00:46:04,745

of would like to know why I, I thought

that, I thought this was a flashback

00:46:04,745 --> 00:46:09,275

and, and they had kept her, her

hidden for a while, but maybe not.

00:46:09,275 --> 00:46:10,295

Maybe it's just

00:46:10,415 --> 00:46:13,925

Xhafer: I didn't read it like

that, but once again, I am

00:46:13,925 --> 00:46:16,565

impaired at the moment, so,

00:46:17,290 --> 00:46:21,665

Laura: either way it makes sense, like

logically that she would take this,

00:46:21,665 --> 00:46:27,125

but I, I think it makes the most sense

if she hid her at the very start,

00:46:27,260 --> 00:46:29,045

Xhafer: well, yeah, that would make sense.

00:46:29,730 --> 00:46:31,890

Laura: but yeah, Rosalyn thinks that.

00:46:32,520 --> 00:46:34,800

Herrick could be the

shape of things to come.

00:46:34,800 --> 00:46:36,930

Whether that's good or bad, I don't know.

00:46:36,960 --> 00:46:39,990

'cause she's only like a

year and a half old, but

00:46:40,020 --> 00:46:40,500

Xhafer: yeah.

00:46:40,500 --> 00:46:42,990

Anders kind of looks, I think

Anders figures it out here.

00:46:43,522 --> 00:46:43,882

Laura: Yeah.

00:46:43,882 --> 00:46:44,722

You think he knows?

00:46:44,872 --> 00:46:45,262

Xhafer: Yeah.

00:46:45,262 --> 00:46:46,582

I think he's not the Jimbo.

00:46:46,582 --> 00:46:47,452

We think he is.

00:46:48,112 --> 00:46:53,212

I think this is, this is signs

of intelligence, uh, but if not

00:46:53,212 --> 00:46:56,302

Himba, why Himba shaped, uh.

00:46:57,457 --> 00:46:59,362

Laura: Right, right.

00:46:59,782 --> 00:47:03,502

No, I guess if we have to like

scale all the men of Galactica,

00:47:04,072 --> 00:47:06,382

like Hilo is top Jimbo, right?

00:47:07,027 --> 00:47:08,287

Xhafer: Oh yeah, he, yeah.

00:47:08,587 --> 00:47:10,927

Hilo is top of MBO Mountain for sure.

00:47:11,272 --> 00:47:11,602

Laura: Yeah.

00:47:11,602 --> 00:47:11,932

Yeah.

00:47:12,652 --> 00:47:15,262

And Andrews is like a little further down.

00:47:15,262 --> 00:47:16,312

Like he's still got

00:47:17,242 --> 00:47:18,742

brain cells kicking around and,

00:47:19,387 --> 00:47:21,637

Xhafer: You know, he is

not at the summit, so

00:47:22,102 --> 00:47:22,492

Laura: right,

00:47:22,807 --> 00:47:24,037

Xhafer: he is on the mountain though.

00:47:24,832 --> 00:47:27,052

Laura: He's gaining a lot

of freaking competence.

00:47:27,052 --> 00:47:32,332

He is not just a pyramid player, but

maybe having been like professional,

00:47:32,872 --> 00:47:37,222

big time pyramid player is, is

extremely useful to him right now.

00:47:37,222 --> 00:47:41,632

Like there's a lot of strategy

he's able to put together faster

00:47:41,827 --> 00:47:46,057

Xhafer: it's like, I mean, if you

like list the skillset, right?

00:47:46,147 --> 00:47:49,957

Like, uh, it's a team sport

most of the time it looks like.

00:47:50,437 --> 00:47:54,062

Uh, so you know, you've gotta have

that, lots of intense training.

00:47:54,587 --> 00:47:57,737

You know, you've gotta be able to

not just physically, but mentally

00:47:57,737 --> 00:47:59,987

conditioned for doing that to your body.

00:48:00,977 --> 00:48:05,537

Um, you probably watch lots of tape

as when the apex of a sport you're

00:48:05,537 --> 00:48:08,747

watching your opponents, you know,

you're studying their maneuvers and

00:48:08,747 --> 00:48:12,077

learning how to counter them and

stuff at the top levels of the sport.

00:48:12,677 --> 00:48:16,847

All of these things, you know,

that exactly that detail oriented,

00:48:17,267 --> 00:48:20,237

especially in like movements and

stuff, thinking about movements and

00:48:20,237 --> 00:48:25,247

counter movements, all of these things

would lead me to believe that the

00:48:25,247 --> 00:48:30,707

skillset, maybe not transitionable

to for everyone, to resistance

00:48:30,737 --> 00:48:33,167

fighter, but it clearly has for him,

00:48:33,782 --> 00:48:34,142

Laura: Yeah.

00:48:34,557 --> 00:48:39,267

we have a brief moment of Deanna not

being able to stop looking at babies

00:48:39,297 --> 00:48:43,647

like every baby she sees is suspect.

00:48:43,692 --> 00:48:45,372

Xhafer: all babies, everywhere.

00:48:45,872 --> 00:48:48,962

Laura: and Tyrell and Rosalyn

meet with the resistance

00:48:49,322 --> 00:48:51,872

to form everything up.

00:48:52,082 --> 00:48:54,182

Daddy Adama's gonna be here any minute.

00:48:54,182 --> 00:48:55,232

We gotta get ready.

00:48:55,997 --> 00:49:00,017

Xhafer: They've had rehearsals

disguised as natural disaster drills.

00:49:00,482 --> 00:49:02,192

Laura: That's very smart.

00:49:02,222 --> 00:49:02,552

Go

00:49:03,017 --> 00:49:04,187

Xhafer: so good.

00:49:04,472 --> 00:49:08,957

When they, when she said that, it's like,

I'm, because that comment from the, the,

00:49:08,957 --> 00:49:11,507

uh, the pilot was just like, oh, yeah.

00:49:11,507 --> 00:49:14,237

Well, it's not like you got to,

you know, chance to rehearse.

00:49:14,237 --> 00:49:14,447

Right.

00:49:14,447 --> 00:49:15,977

And she's all like three times.

00:49:16,577 --> 00:49:16,867

Laura: Yeah.

00:49:18,152 --> 00:49:24,182

No, we've, you know, that the second

everything went down, Saul went to

00:49:24,182 --> 00:49:27,932

Rosalyn and was like, okay, here's

what Adam and I sketched out.

00:49:28,382 --> 00:49:32,522

And then she's like, okay, here's

what I can add, you know, and they,

00:49:32,582 --> 00:49:34,052

they put together these drills.

00:49:34,052 --> 00:49:35,102

It's very smart.

00:49:35,342 --> 00:49:36,122

I love it.

00:49:36,829 --> 00:49:40,339

Sam's gonna give her a couple

escorts for Maya and her.

00:49:40,752 --> 00:49:41,172

Xhafer: Mm-hmm.

00:49:42,032 --> 00:49:48,362

Laura: but the guy who seized Ellen

interrupts and demands to talk to Saul.

00:49:48,962 --> 00:49:54,182

Xhafer: Yeah, we see Sharon walking

around as, uh, Ellen confesses to

00:49:54,182 --> 00:49:56,642

Saul when presented with the truth.

00:49:57,602 --> 00:50:02,595

Uh, Sharon does get the set of car

keys, but Deanna is there, instantly

00:50:02,595 --> 00:50:05,115

recognizing who she actually is.

00:50:05,535 --> 00:50:06,075

Laura: Oh yeah.

00:50:06,080 --> 00:50:08,895

There's no like hesitation

00:50:09,015 --> 00:50:10,665

Xhafer: It's like, holy shit, it's you.

00:50:11,415 --> 00:50:11,865

Laura: uhhuh.

00:50:11,865 --> 00:50:13,815

Xhafer: What the fuck are you doing here?

00:50:14,175 --> 00:50:15,435

This is a problem.

00:50:15,975 --> 00:50:16,725

Laura: Yeah.

00:50:16,815 --> 00:50:22,065

That's so interesting because I

guess the centurions, the battle

00:50:22,065 --> 00:50:24,855

bots don't know any different, right.

00:50:25,695 --> 00:50:28,659

That's how she's able to like,

get in where she's going.

00:50:28,659 --> 00:50:32,559

And even like she does some kind

of a scan thing, like we scan

00:50:32,559 --> 00:50:34,299

her hand or her face or something

00:50:35,169 --> 00:50:36,369

as she's coming in.

00:50:36,869 --> 00:50:41,879

but you run into another humanoid

silent and they immediately clock you.

00:50:42,284 --> 00:50:42,974

Xhafer: Yeah.

00:50:43,769 --> 00:50:44,399

Laura: Hmm.

00:50:44,993 --> 00:50:49,913

and I was very, very nervous

as she started to tell

00:50:50,213 --> 00:50:52,673

Sharon about her being alive.

00:50:53,193 --> 00:50:53,413

Xhafer: Yep.

00:50:53,845 --> 00:50:59,695

Laura: that is interesting

that she doesn't fall for it.

00:50:59,965 --> 00:51:02,425

But also it was the truth.

00:51:03,520 --> 00:51:07,630

Xhafer: She does not believe that

Adama would've lie to her about this.

00:51:08,020 --> 00:51:09,670

And it is important to note.

00:51:10,120 --> 00:51:11,890

Adama doesn't know.

00:51:12,835 --> 00:51:13,165

Laura: Okay.

00:51:13,165 --> 00:51:13,945

I wondered this.

00:51:13,970 --> 00:51:16,345

I, I, I actually

specifically asked Erin this.

00:51:16,345 --> 00:51:21,424

I was like, logically it does, doesn't

make a whole lot of sense that he wouldn't

00:51:21,424 --> 00:51:27,154

know, but also if Rosalyn is playing

everything right, he shouldn't know.

00:51:27,364 --> 00:51:30,064

She should not have told anyone else.

00:51:30,124 --> 00:51:30,544

Like,

00:51:31,039 --> 00:51:32,479

Xhafer: Tory, and Coddle.

00:51:33,469 --> 00:51:34,399

the three people.

00:51:34,489 --> 00:51:35,929

That's the only people that know.

00:51:36,784 --> 00:51:37,084

Laura: right?

00:51:37,549 --> 00:51:40,099

Xhafer: So like that,

that's how it all plays out.

00:51:40,159 --> 00:51:41,689

Adam isn't there for the decision.

00:51:41,689 --> 00:51:43,579

Adam, isn't there when anything goes down?

00:51:43,924 --> 00:51:44,164

Laura: Yeah.

00:51:44,194 --> 00:51:50,644

We, we never saw him know this, and

so I'm thinking he doesn't know this,

00:51:50,904 --> 00:51:51,194

Xhafer: Yeah.

00:51:51,904 --> 00:51:52,264

Laura: but

00:51:52,564 --> 00:51:52,804

if

00:51:52,849 --> 00:51:53,509

Xhafer: As far as we

00:51:53,554 --> 00:51:58,714

Laura: that's gonna be a big

fucking problem later if he does.

00:52:03,424 --> 00:52:03,784

Yeah.

00:52:04,100 --> 00:52:07,700

but Sharon is pretty like

steady in this moment.

00:52:07,700 --> 00:52:08,690

She's pretty resolute.

00:52:08,780 --> 00:52:16,386

She just, uh, kneecap boom boom

to Deanna and believes very firmly

00:52:16,386 --> 00:52:18,456

that Adama would not lie about this.

00:52:18,855 --> 00:52:27,227

she runs back to, to Tyrell, gives

him the keys, uh, says, oh yeah, by

00:52:27,227 --> 00:52:28,847

the way, congrats about your son.

00:52:29,466 --> 00:52:34,572

hey, when you spread Harry's ashes,

they were really there, right?

00:52:36,647 --> 00:52:36,937

Xhafer: Yeah.

00:52:37,812 --> 00:52:41,322

Laura: So there's a tiny

bit of doubt in her mind.

00:52:42,432 --> 00:52:46,692

Like she really doesn't wanna

believe anyone would take

00:52:46,692 --> 00:52:48,102

her baby and lie about it.

00:52:48,342 --> 00:52:51,909

But Who knows how that's gonna turn out.

00:52:51,909 --> 00:52:55,329

I'm not excited about it.

00:52:57,919 --> 00:53:03,745

But, uh, we end this episode, we

head to Galactica and Helo says,

00:53:03,745 --> 00:53:10,435

Hey, we've got the keys racetrack,

and Kat get the call from Adama

00:53:11,395 --> 00:53:12,505

that it's time to head out.

00:53:13,945 --> 00:53:18,415

And then he calls the whole ship,

tells them this is their moment,

00:53:19,435 --> 00:53:21,655

and we go, condition one to credits.

00:53:22,465 --> 00:53:23,095

Xhafer: Yep.

00:53:24,445 --> 00:53:26,725

That's where we leave off.

00:53:27,775 --> 00:53:29,335

Adam gives a great speech here

00:53:30,205 --> 00:53:35,035

about like their writing themselves

into legend and they will ga gain

00:53:35,095 --> 00:53:37,165

immortality throughout history

00:53:37,975 --> 00:53:40,040

and stuff if they pull this off.

00:53:41,030 --> 00:53:41,320

Laura: Yeah.

00:53:42,616 --> 00:53:47,206

I've very much felt things and

the score was, uh, just impeccable

00:53:47,206 --> 00:53:48,826

throughout these two episodes.

00:53:48,856 --> 00:53:54,976

Really, the, the musical background

to all the drama is perfect.

00:53:55,833 --> 00:53:56,523

gosh,

00:53:56,998 --> 00:53:57,088

it's

00:53:57,088 --> 00:53:59,938

hard to, it's hard to just

leave it at the end of part one.

00:54:00,148 --> 00:54:00,778

I'll say that.

00:54:00,958 --> 00:54:05,898

Xhafer: I mean, I texted you and was all

like, Hey, are you only watching part one?

00:54:06,846 --> 00:54:08,736

Laura: Yeah, because that

was my original intention.

00:54:09,122 --> 00:54:12,722

I don't have it just like huge

chunks of time these days.

00:54:12,722 --> 00:54:15,692

And so I was hoping, okay, I'll just, you

know, I'll watch this one real quick and

00:54:15,692 --> 00:54:17,312

then I'll watch the next one the next day.

00:54:17,382 --> 00:54:17,802

Xhafer: Mm-hmm.

00:54:18,482 --> 00:54:22,802

Laura: And, uh, didn't happen that

way because you get to the end and

00:54:22,802 --> 00:54:24,782

you just need it to be resolved.

00:54:25,097 --> 00:54:25,457

Xhafer: Yeah.

00:54:26,285 --> 00:54:26,825

All right.

00:54:27,035 --> 00:54:29,645

Well, uh, how are you

feeling about this one?

00:54:29,645 --> 00:54:31,175

On a scale of one to 12 colonies?

00:54:31,777 --> 00:54:32,077

Laura: Whew.

00:54:33,140 --> 00:54:34,235

I mean, it is a

00:54:35,039 --> 00:54:36,719

action packed episode.

00:54:36,719 --> 00:54:42,629

We're resolving a bunch of tension

from the first two, uh, ramping up more

00:54:42,629 --> 00:54:45,869

tensions for the next one and beyond.

00:54:46,557 --> 00:54:52,028

man, I don't have any faults with

it beyond, like, not sure that

00:54:52,028 --> 00:54:57,548

geography with Cali checks out and

cavel complaining about the hot

00:54:57,548 --> 00:54:59,408

sun on a very cold planet is silly.

00:55:00,578 --> 00:55:06,541

Uh, I just, man, I, it's a 12 for me,

like I'm, I'm ready for the next one.

00:55:06,796 --> 00:55:08,926

Xhafer: Yeah, no, I'm right there.

00:55:08,926 --> 00:55:13,726

Uh, I put this at a 11 outta 12 if

only because it's not the next episode,

00:55:14,521 --> 00:55:14,821

Laura: Yeah.

00:55:15,496 --> 00:55:20,656

Xhafer: which season three,

episode four, Exodus part two.

00:55:21,946 --> 00:55:26,121

Time must decide the fate of

Ellen Lee struggles with his

00:55:26,121 --> 00:55:27,766

assignment to guard the civilians.

00:55:28,306 --> 00:55:31,696

The resistance coordinates an

attack as Galactica arrives

00:55:32,356 --> 00:55:34,186

as the cylons lose control.

00:55:34,546 --> 00:55:38,266

Number three, vows to put an end

to the new Capric experiment.

00:55:39,951 --> 00:55:40,191

Laura: Yeah.

00:55:40,191 --> 00:55:41,151

All those things happened.

00:55:41,606 --> 00:55:41,886

Xhafer: Yep.

00:55:42,246 --> 00:55:44,406

I cut stuff out as I typically do,

00:55:44,856 --> 00:55:45,206

Laura: Uhhuh.

00:55:45,486 --> 00:55:47,376

Xhafer: uh, even though you've

already seen it, but whatever.

00:55:48,351 --> 00:55:48,591

Laura: Yeah.

00:55:48,621 --> 00:55:49,971

Just in case for a listener.

00:55:49,971 --> 00:55:50,331

Sure.

00:55:50,556 --> 00:55:53,616

Xhafer: Yeah, we, I think we

made it through without saying

00:55:53,616 --> 00:55:54,576

anything we shouldn't have.

00:55:54,801 --> 00:55:54,891

Laura: Mm-hmm.

00:55:55,951 --> 00:55:57,361

Xhafer: but there is

one thing we should say.

00:55:57,811 --> 00:55:58,381

That's of course.

00:55:58,381 --> 00:55:58,831

Thank you.

00:56:00,001 --> 00:56:02,191

Thank you Jeremy Siegel for

your lovely theme music.

00:56:02,701 --> 00:56:06,091

You can find more at Jeremy's work

at Jeremy Siegel 40 two.bandcamp.com,

00:56:06,091 --> 00:56:10,291

where he's the only Jeremy

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00:56:12,931 --> 00:56:15,271

Laura: And thanks to Angry

Duck time machine on Instagram

00:56:15,271 --> 00:56:16,501

for the podcast artwork.

00:56:16,711 --> 00:56:20,551

Xhafer: Hey Aaron, thanks for editing

out the five minutes of my dog, demanding

00:56:20,551 --> 00:56:22,141

to go outside out of this episode.

00:56:22,141 --> 00:56:23,101

Really appreciate it.

00:56:23,101 --> 00:56:23,431

Thank you.

00:56:25,461 --> 00:56:25,851

Laura: Yeah.

00:56:25,851 --> 00:56:27,921

And thanks listener

for being here with us.

00:56:27,921 --> 00:56:32,061

If you want to come and

chat, join the Discord.

00:56:32,271 --> 00:56:32,691

Xhafer: Come hang

00:56:32,691 --> 00:56:33,531

out in the discord.

00:56:34,011 --> 00:56:38,211

Laura: there's a spoiler free zone if

you're like me and you haven't seen it,

00:56:38,931 --> 00:56:42,261

or there's also Spoiler Town, which

I hear is a lot of fun without me.

00:56:43,821 --> 00:56:45,321

Xhafer: it is spoiler.

00:56:45,321 --> 00:56:45,891

Sounds great.

00:56:46,351 --> 00:56:48,991

yeah, uh, and, uh,

we'll see you next week.

00:56:48,991 --> 00:56:49,381

Internet.

00:56:49,651 --> 00:56:52,561

Oh, with Bob Shit, by the way,

we've got a guest next week.

00:56:52,801 --> 00:56:53,071

I should

00:56:53,071 --> 00:56:53,791

have said that way

00:56:54,046 --> 00:56:54,616

Laura: yeah.

00:56:55,037 --> 00:56:55,667

Xhafer: that's fine.