Summary

In this episode of the Non Judging Breakfast Pod, hosts Leif and Steve are joined by special guest John Paul from the Last Roundup Horror Show Podcast and the WTF Did I Just Watch? Podcast. Together, they delve into Season 2, Episode 9 of Gossip Girl, titled "There Might Be Blood." The trio discusses Jenny's guerrilla fashion show, Blair's babysitting escapades, and Serena's complicated love life. They explore themes of ambition, teenage rebellion, and the intricacies of friendship within the Upper East Side elite. John Paul shares his unique perspective on the show's characters, having first watched Gossip Girl during the pandemic with his wife. The hosts also touch upon the cultural impact of the series and its parallels with other teen melodramas.

Keywords

Gossip Girl, fashion show, teenage rebellion, friendship, ambition, Upper East Side, podcast, analysis

00:00 Introduction and Welcome

03:15 Guest Introduction: John Paul

10:30 Discussing Jenny's Guerrilla Fashion Show

18:45 Blair's Babysitting Adventure

25:20 Serena's Complicated Love Life

30:05 Nate's Struggles and Relationships

35:50 Rufus's Parenting Challenges

40:30 Aaron's Creepy Behavior

45:15 Chuck's Redemption Arc

52:00 Episode Grades and Reflections

1:00:00 Stock Watch: Characters Rising and Falling

1:10:00 Best Outfits and Fashion Highlights

1:15:00 Plugs and Closing Remarks

Special Guest

John Paul

Last Roundup Horror Show Podcast - [https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCuJKL29GqbXvDMD4S0e6VVg]

WTF Did I Just Watch? Podcast - [https://zombietakeoverstudios.bandcamp.com/album/wtf-did-i-just-watch-season-1]

Produced by Leif Capicola and Steve Marchion. 

Edited and mixed by Leif Capicola.

The Gossip Girl Theme Performed By Steve Marchion.

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Leif: 00:00:00

What I'm saying is, if it wasn't the limo, he might have gone for it.

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Jean-Paul: I mean, again, Chuck is shocked. Does whatever

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Chuck wants with it.

Leif: 00:00:18

Hey up, residers. And all you scandal loving listeners out

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there, you just tuned into the non judging breakfast

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pod where the coffee is strong, the waffles

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are fresh, and the gossip is hotter than ever.

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My name is Leif, and I'm your seasoned gossip girl

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veteran.

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And I'm Steve the newbie, the greenhorn,

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the, I don't know, Leif. What do you call the fresh meat in gossip girl

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terms?

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I don't know.

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Let's get you some bacardi and see what happens.

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Hey. All right, well, I'm ready to start a fashion show at this point,

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I feel.

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Sounds good.

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So here's the deal, folks. Leif has been watching Gossip girl

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since it first aired, and I'm diving in for the very first

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time. And together, we're your dynamic duo, bringing you

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all the glamour, romance, and

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sometimes questionable fashion choices of this

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iconic 2007 series.

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That's right. Each week we're going to take a deep dive into the

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show one episode at a time. We're going to be looking

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at all the obscure references,

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parallels, and sometimes the couture

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catastrophes. We're also going to take a look at the

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Phantom stories and some behind the scenes gossip along the

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way.

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And since we're all about inclusivity here at the non judging

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breakfast pod, there's always a seat for you at the non judging

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breakfast table. So go ahead and grab your mimosa,

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your cup of coffee, or some of Chuck and Nate

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special medicine, and let's go ahead and get this

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started.

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Okay, Steve, once again, we are not

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alone. We got another guest with us.

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Yes, please welcome. This week we have with us John

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Paul from the last roundup horror

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pod horror show podcast

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and the WTF did I just watch?

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Podcast. welcome, Jean Paul.

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Thanks for joining us.

Steve: 00:01:57

Thank you very much for joining us.

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Jean-Paul: Hey, thanks for having me.

Leif: 00:02:00

Absolutely.

Steve: 00:02:01

So being on the show with us, could you

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give us a little bit of your history with

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Gossip Girl? Because I know you said you and your wife watched,

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I believe, during the pandemic. Yeah.

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Jean-Paul: So, yeah, that was my only, like,

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my introduction, like, during the pandemic, you know, we were all

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locked up, looking for stuff to watch, looking for stuff to

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do. And my wife

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knows that one of my biggest

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weakness in life is teen

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melodramas. And I don't know

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how Gossip girl missed me

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because, you know, I grew up with,

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you know, like, I don't know, das

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freak, you know, a lot of the CW

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WP shows.

Leif: 00:02:44

Yeah, yeah. And, yeah, I was the same way.

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Jean-Paul: And I like this just Fitzhen perfectly. And she's

Leif: 00:02:49

like, what do you think? You've never watched Gossip Girl? And I'm like,

Leif: 00:02:52

well, I've heard of it, you know? Cause I also used to watch

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one Tree hill and all of those kind of shows. Even 7th

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heaven. Like I said, I was one of those kids that.

Leif: 00:03:01

Yeah, I was left out, on, the fantasy of

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fake romance on tv.

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Yeah.

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Jean-Paul: I'm like, yeah, I have a crush on that girl because, you know,

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she was x person.

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Just as a reminder, Steve has not seen past this

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episode. no spoilers.

Leif: 00:03:17

Jean-Paul: Oh, no, I won't. I won't spoil anything,

Leif: 00:03:19

but, yeah.

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So you have a, favorite or least

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favorite character or both.

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Jean-Paul: Oh, gosh. On Gossip Girl

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with the least favorite character,

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I mean, right from the back, you're supposed to

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hate, you know, the bass man, I

Leif: 00:03:36

guess.

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Yeah, he is a bass

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man.

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Jean-Paul: Yeah. But the problem is,

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as the show.

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Progresses, I had to enjoy

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trying to force you to like them.

Leif: 00:03:48

Jean-Paul: exactly. So it's like they

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succeeded.

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and is that your favorite character, then?

Leif: 00:03:55

Jean-Paul: No, that's. That's still kind of my least favorite.

Leif: 00:03:58

Favorite.

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It's nothing wrong with that. A lot of it is. A lot of people's favorite characters.

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Jean-Paul: I know, I know. But favorite. It

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really is a toss up between

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Blair and good old Humphrey

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Dan.

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Good choices. Good choices.

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Jean-Paul: Only because, I mean,

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I have. I mean, again, after watching

Leif: 00:04:18

Gossip Girl and that show you came out on

Leif: 00:04:20

Netflix, which originally was on lifetime.

Leif: 00:04:23

That's. Again, I know team bell drama, so I know stuff like

Leif: 00:04:26

that. I was just like, oh, my gosh,

Leif: 00:04:30

Gossip Girl is almost like a prequel story to the show.

Leif: 00:04:33

You maybe in my head canon. That is what

Leif: 00:04:36

I'd say. And I'm going to go with it because

Leif: 00:04:39

I've heard that a lot of.

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People have said that it just fits perfectly,

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so.

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Yeah, I haven't watched you for that reason, because

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I want to watch you with that headcanon.

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Jean-Paul: Well, then definitely wait until you get done, with this show,

Steve: 00:04:52

because, yeah.

Leif: 00:04:53

It'Ll give you a nice couple years.

Steve: 00:04:54

Yeah, I've got a couple years, but. But, you know, you

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won't go anywhere.

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Jean-Paul: I mean, I think it ends this year, but you'll

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have all of them on Netflix forever.

Leif: 00:05:03

Yep.

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Jean-Paul: so, yeah, I don't know. Serena is another,

Leif: 00:05:06

like. But they make you lover. That's the thing.

Leif: 00:05:10

So.

Leif: 00:05:10

So that's why they make me hate Serena.

Leif: 00:05:13

Well, or Serena makes me hate Serena.

Leif: 00:05:15

Jean-Paul: Yeah, exactly. But Blair, I don't know. There's just

Leif: 00:05:18

something about her, and the actress that plays

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her is just entertaining with her, like, quirkiness.

Leif: 00:05:24

So, yeah, Blair is probably my favorite.

Leif: 00:05:27

and there are episodes a lot about her acting.

Leif: 00:05:30

Jean-Paul: Yeah, there are episodes where I'm just like, hate you

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in this episode, but.

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That'S what a good character does.

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Jean-Paul: Exactly.

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A good character. You should not like them all the

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time, and you shouldn't like all the decisions they make,

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because then what's to like about them? You

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know? I, I think that I'm at a point now with

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Gossip Girl where Dan has turned from being

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my favorite character, and

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I've grown to like him less. But a

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lot of that's because he's making

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decisions that I think are shitty, which are really great

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character decisions, despite how shitty

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yeah, they are.

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Jean-Paul: I did not agree with you more on that.

Leif: 00:06:12

Yeah, I think Jenny is actually my favorite

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character. I think mine and I always root for

Leif: 00:06:17

Jenny to win. Okay.

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Yeah.

Leif: 00:06:22

it's kind of a mixed bag.

Steve: 00:06:23

Oh. The only time

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I've ever really been upset with Jenny was when

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she fucked with Eric, you know, when she was

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shitty to Eric like that. Like,

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no way off, my boy.

Leif: 00:06:39

So we are here to talk about season two,

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episode nine, there might be

Leif: 00:06:45

blood. This originally aired

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on November 3, 2008, and

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the title was based on the. Of course, the movie there will

Leif: 00:06:53

be blood. The, 2007 Paul Thomas

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Anderson, Daniel Day Lewis, all that.

Steve: 00:06:58

That's the name I was trying to remember. I

Steve: 00:07:01

remember seeing that. I mean, it got such

Steve: 00:07:04

rave reviews.

Leif: 00:07:05

It was well shot.

Steve: 00:07:07

It was great.

Leif: 00:07:08

The acting was amazing. It was boring movie.

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Boring.

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See, nothing really happened. Nothing happened.

Steve: 00:07:15

I've been afraid to say that for 20 years because,

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see, I agree.

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Jean-Paul: With m you saying that nothing happens but the end,

Steve: 00:07:22

that kind of the way it

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ends, where it's just kind.

Leif: 00:07:27

Of like, you got a miserable

Leif: 00:07:29

bastard.

Leif: 00:07:30

Jean-Paul: You'Re just a mislead, and you got screwed no matter

Leif: 00:07:33

what.

Leif: 00:07:34

Yeah.

Leif: 00:07:34

Jean-Paul: That's really what got me. That's what. What made me say,

Leif: 00:07:37

wow, Daniel Day Lewis,

Leif: 00:07:40

you definitely are one of the best actors around.

Steve: 00:07:44

Yeah.

Leif: 00:07:44

Oh, yeah. It's marvelously acted by him and

Leif: 00:07:47

Paul.

Leif: 00:07:48

Jean-Paul: Dare they?

Steve: 00:07:48

Yeah. Yeah. I feel like they could have

Steve: 00:07:51

taken an hour out of that movie and moved

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it along a little bit better. And I always felt like it was too

Steve: 00:07:57

long to not have stuff to

Steve: 00:08:00

be that slow.

Steve: 00:08:01

Jean-Paul: That's Paul. That's Paul Thomas Anderson. As a director, though, he

Steve: 00:08:04

loves just long run times. And you know, it's

Steve: 00:08:07

him. Tarantino and Gorzez. I

Steve: 00:08:10

mean, again, they're wonderful directors and

Steve: 00:08:13

everything, and they make good movies, but sometimes it's like,

Steve: 00:08:16

learn how to edit your movie,

Steve: 00:08:18

please.

Steve: 00:08:19

Yeah. Yeah.

Leif: 00:08:21

I didn't even really mind that. I just like to see some.

Leif: 00:08:24

Some character development.

Leif: 00:08:25

Jean-Paul: All right, this.

Steve: 00:08:26

Didn't this come out around the time of old country

Steve: 00:08:29

for no men? Two.

Leif: 00:08:31

A, couple years after.

Leif: 00:08:32

Jean-Paul: Yeah, it was a year after. A couple years after. Yeah.

Steve: 00:08:35

I just remember kind of. They kind of occupy some of the

Steve: 00:08:37

same space in my brain of. I remember

Steve: 00:08:40

old country for no men, being like, this is.

Steve: 00:08:43

This is good, but I. But it's slow,

Steve: 00:08:46

like, that same kind of feel to it.

Leif: 00:08:48

Well, I thought that was much m better, pace,

Leif: 00:08:51

but it was ruined by the ending.

Steve: 00:08:54

Maybe that's what I'm thinking. I haven't seen either of those

Steve: 00:08:57

movies since they hit DB.

Leif: 00:08:58

Well, the ending was that he wake is all a dream.

Leif: 00:09:02

he wakes up, and it's all a dream.

Steve: 00:09:03

That's stupid. Spoiler alert.

Steve: 00:09:05

Jean-Paul: Spoiler alert.

Leif: 00:09:08

Too bad, you've had 20 years to watch

Leif: 00:09:11

that and even longer

Leif: 00:09:14

to read the book.

Leif: 00:09:18

Television without pity. Jacob recaps the

Leif: 00:09:21

episode. Blair spends the

Leif: 00:09:23

entire episode chasing a young, crazy girl

Leif: 00:09:26

around the Upper east side after Serena offers

Leif: 00:09:29

her services as babysitter to order another

Leif: 00:09:32

Yale connection, young Emma is determined

Leif: 00:09:35

to lose her epitomous virginity.

Leif: 00:09:38

Ew. Before her friend Muffy.

Leif: 00:09:41

Yeah. And takes the combined

Leif: 00:09:44

forces of an errand distracted Serena and

Leif: 00:09:47

a chivalrous chuck to keep her in the

Leif: 00:09:50

Trina, Agnes.

Steve: 00:09:52

And Jenny plan a guerrilla

Steve: 00:09:55

fashion show at a charity ball, which turns

Steve: 00:09:58

out to be honoring Bart and Lily.

Steve: 00:10:00

Rufus goes completely crazy and tries to have

Steve: 00:10:03

little J arrested for the stunt, but Lily

Steve: 00:10:06

steps in because it was awesome. And then

Steve: 00:10:09

Rufus cries the tears of a slightly

Steve: 00:10:11

involved, very shitty parent.

Steve: 00:10:14

Jenny runs off through the streets of Brooklyn with only

Steve: 00:10:17

her sewing machine and about 40 pounds of

Steve: 00:10:19

eyeshadow. Homeless Cinderella Jenny is

Steve: 00:10:22

even cooler than regular Jenny, which is only

Steve: 00:10:25

slightly cooler than the totally awesome, insane

Steve: 00:10:28

Agnes.

Leif: 00:10:29

Rufus somewhat redeems himself by lecturing

Leif: 00:10:32

Dan about how not everyone is a wunderkin,

Leif: 00:10:35

but Dan is so jealous of the attention little J

Leif: 00:10:38

is getting that he ends up writing the Charlie trout story

Leif: 00:10:41

after all, selling his soul and signing

Leif: 00:10:44

one more page of the massive death warrant he

Leif: 00:10:47

keeps begging Jeff to put on him.

Leif: 00:10:50

Speaking of slight, speaking of slightly

Leif: 00:10:52

douchey artist Serena has loved,

Leif: 00:10:55

she spends the entire time obsessing

Leif: 00:10:58

over Aaron, who is bigger, who's a bigger whore than Nate

Leif: 00:11:01

Archibald ever was. Serena,

Leif: 00:11:04

having never worked for anything in her

Leif: 00:11:06

entire life. Loves the idea of actually

Leif: 00:11:09

dating someone with as much Serena

Leif: 00:11:12

power as she herself has. Although I

Leif: 00:11:15

believe that the. Much like Chuck Aaron's

Leif: 00:11:17

grodyness power is contained in his giant

Leif: 00:11:20

stupid scars.

Steve: 00:11:22

After spotting Nate and Jenny kissing on Gossip

Steve: 00:11:25

Girl, snapped by Lil Serena from

Steve: 00:11:28

attack of the clones in Central Park, Dan

Steve: 00:11:31

makes it very clear that Nate's history of

Steve: 00:11:33

prostitution is not cool and

Steve: 00:11:36

tosses him out of the Humphrey house on his ass.

Steve: 00:11:39

Nice to have d bag dan back after

Steve: 00:11:42

last week. And even nicer to see him slipping down

Steve: 00:11:45

that slippery ethical slope so quickly.

Steve: 00:11:48

Chuck comes running to save Nate, of

Steve: 00:11:51

course, and realizes how out of control

Steve: 00:11:54

things have gotten. But Nate's pride

Steve: 00:11:57

keeps him from giving in to Chuck's tender

Steve: 00:11:59

ministrations, and he runs off to the

Steve: 00:12:02

Hampsons to sit out what would seem

Steve: 00:12:05

to be the most omfg

Steve: 00:12:08

episode of all time next week.

Steve: 00:12:11

Meanwhile, Vanessa flips out after seeing

Steve: 00:12:14

Nate and Jenny kissing in real life and

Steve: 00:12:16

hopefully jumps off a roof. Their words, not

Steve: 00:12:19

mine.

Leif: 00:12:21

John Paul, you were. You say you watched a lot of

Leif: 00:12:24

tea dramas. Did you ever frequent, television

Leif: 00:12:27

without pity?

Leif: 00:12:27

Jean-Paul: Oh, man, not

Leif: 00:12:30

really.

Steve: 00:12:33

Yeah. we always like to get the. Was this the playlist

Steve: 00:12:36

again? Was this back to the. I know you were telling me

Steve: 00:12:39

about it before, but I only kind of. This is a good one.

Steve: 00:12:41

Again, we.

Leif: 00:12:42

Oh, yeah. So, yeah, we've, They stopped using,

Leif: 00:12:45

like, we were doing that one that they would do, like a short

Leif: 00:12:48

one in the thread, in the episode thread. But then

Leif: 00:12:51

that stopped for whatever reason. I guess that guy stopped watching it at

Leif: 00:12:54

the end of season or the last one he did was the season two

Leif: 00:12:57

premiere.

Steve: 00:12:57

Yeah.

Leif: 00:12:58

And then. So we decided to go back to the

Leif: 00:13:01

full one. That, Jake was actually pretty famous.

Leif: 00:13:04

Like, you think he actually still now is like an, ah,

Leif: 00:13:07

entertainment writer.

Steve: 00:13:08

Oh, good.

Leif: 00:13:09

Like, he worked most of the. Most of the staff

Leif: 00:13:12

writers from Telly went on to become,

Leif: 00:13:15

like, magazine writers.

Steve: 00:13:16

Oh, that's awesome.

Leif: 00:13:17

Yeah, of course, that's back to writing online

Leif: 00:13:20

now.

Leif: 00:13:23

So this episode, speaking of writing, it was written

Leif: 00:13:26

by Eitan Fields. This is

Leif: 00:13:29

the first of two episodes that he did, but any co

Leif: 00:13:32

wrote it with John Stevens and that this is his second

Leif: 00:13:35

episode. He also wrote the Dark Knight earlier this

Leif: 00:13:38

season.

Steve: 00:13:38

Oh, okay.

Leif: 00:13:40

And then it was directed by Michael Fields,

Leif: 00:13:43

who's back. He did roman holiday,

Leif: 00:13:46

desperately seeking Serena and never been

Leif: 00:13:48

Marcus. Roman holiday was good episode. The other

Leif: 00:13:51

two, not so much. Yeah, not necessarily

Leif: 00:13:54

fault of the direct.

Steve: 00:13:55

Ah, no, no, not at all. Especially def.

Steve: 00:13:58

Yeah, both of those were in that

Steve: 00:14:02

phase. In that, post writers strike.

Steve: 00:14:04

Pre pre getting to

Steve: 00:14:07

where they are. Reboot. Yeah.

Leif: 00:14:10

So let's go ahead and get into act

Leif: 00:14:13

one. Spotted at

Leif: 00:14:15

mood. Jenny Humphrey, 16 yards

Leif: 00:14:18

of tool. But since when does Eleanor

Leif: 00:14:21

Waldorf pay for her purchases with a penny jar?

Leif: 00:14:24

They say stitch in time saves nine.

Leif: 00:14:27

Will it save little

Leif: 00:14:29

JDev? Pretty good

Leif: 00:14:31

one.

Steve: 00:14:32

Yeah. Yeah.

Leif: 00:14:33

Jenny and Agnes are preparing for a fashion show

Leif: 00:14:36

and talking about Nate freezing Jenny out since

Leif: 00:14:39

last week. So, yeah, this is

Leif: 00:14:42

an, opening scene. You got Jenny and Agnes, you know,

Leif: 00:14:45

rushing around the loft, getting ready and talking

Leif: 00:14:47

about how Nate's been blowing Jenny off.

Steve: 00:14:50

Yeah. Which, you know, I can see how that

Steve: 00:14:53

would be upsetting to Jenny.

Leif: 00:14:54

Yeah.

Steve: 00:14:55

But also, I can understand Nate.

Leif: 00:14:58

You see what happens once everyone finds out, so. Yeah,

Leif: 00:15:01

it's definitely understandable.

Steve: 00:15:02

Yeah.

Leif: 00:15:05

Nate and Dan are discussing Jenny, and

Leif: 00:15:08

Nate is being evasive when Dan gets a call from

Leif: 00:15:11

Jordan. Dan is all up in his own, head

Leif: 00:15:13

again. Although once again, we find out he was right

Leif: 00:15:16

to be up inside of this time.

Steve: 00:15:18

Yeah. Yeah, he was. And

Steve: 00:15:21

also, what he's like, it's good to be

Steve: 00:15:23

Nate because he doesn't remember this woman

Steve: 00:15:26

that he was, like, making out with

Steve: 00:15:30

a couple weeks ago at, Yale

Steve: 00:15:32

again.

Leif: 00:15:33

So I got on Aaron last

Leif: 00:15:35

week for, like, tolerating

Leif: 00:15:39

shitty behavior to people he doesn't care about.

Leif: 00:15:41

Just being selective about shitty behavior.

Leif: 00:15:44

Yeah, and I got called dad out for kind of the

Leif: 00:15:47

same thing here because he was fine with

Leif: 00:15:49

Napiane, the sleazeball with his

Leif: 00:15:52

ta, but once it's a sister, it's a different story.

Steve: 00:15:55

Yeah. Yeah, exactly. Yeah,

Steve: 00:15:58

you're right on that.

Leif: 00:16:00

Serena and Blair are meeting with a friend of Dean

Leif: 00:16:02

Barabe's. Serena volunteers Blair to babysit

Leif: 00:16:05

the woman's daughter. No way this could possibly go wrong.

Steve: 00:16:11

Yeah. Your thoughts, John Paul?

Leif: 00:16:13

So, yeah, feel free to jump

Leif: 00:16:16

in at any time.

Steve: 00:16:17

Yeah.

Steve: 00:16:17

Jean-Paul: Well, I'll just go back to the whole. The beginning

Steve: 00:16:20

with Jenny and everything and heard,

Steve: 00:16:23

like, she's very neurotic in this episode.

Steve: 00:16:26

Like, and I don't know if it's, like, it's the

Steve: 00:16:29

stress of her trying to get

Steve: 00:16:32

this, guerrilla Sasha show going or what it

Steve: 00:16:35

was, but,

Leif: 00:16:37

Even I think it's a combination of the. Yeah, it's that

Leif: 00:16:40

and also stressy about what's Nate thinking?

Leif: 00:16:43

Jean-Paul: What's nate thinking? Yeah.

Leif: 00:16:44

Wait a minute.

Leif: 00:16:45

Jean-Paul: Yeah, and. And even, like. Like I said,

Leif: 00:16:48

I don't know. I don't want to jump ahead and

Leif: 00:16:51

rate this yet, but, the.

Leif: 00:16:54

The interactions, at the beginning of Jenny and

Leif: 00:16:57

Nate kind of really just. It

Leif: 00:17:00

seemed kind of off to me compared to the previous

Leif: 00:17:03

episode.

Steve: 00:17:04

Yeah. Yeah.

Steve: 00:17:05

Jean-Paul: So I guess, yeah. Maybe it does give you that feel of,

Steve: 00:17:08

like, you know, something happens, so they're kind of avoiding

Steve: 00:17:11

each other because something happened, you know, got a

Steve: 00:17:14

cliche. I mean, this

Steve: 00:17:16

storyline, like I said, because I know teen

Steve: 00:17:19

melodramas is very similar in a bunch

Steve: 00:17:22

of other shows where, you know,

Steve: 00:17:25

the sibling has now made

Steve: 00:17:28

out with the other sibling's friend and those

Steve: 00:17:31

kind of things, and, like, the. The weird

Steve: 00:17:33

entrapment of what's going to happen next.

Steve: 00:17:37

The execution is not as well

Steve: 00:17:40

as I've seen it in other shows in this

Steve: 00:17:42

episode and for the show,

Steve: 00:17:45

in.

Steve: 00:17:46

My opinion, which kind of happens a lot. Yeah.

Steve: 00:17:48

Yeah.

Steve: 00:17:50

Jean-Paul: I mean, I don't want to jump ahead, so I'll wait until you get

Steve: 00:17:52

to brother Barnes in it.

Leif: 00:17:55

No problem. Serena runs into Erin as she's

Leif: 00:17:58

about to look past the fact that he was with another woman

Leif: 00:18:01

last week when yet another woman

Leif: 00:18:03

runs up and kisses him, on the mouth.

Leif: 00:18:06

Jean-Paul: On the mouth.

Steve: 00:18:07

Runs up and kisses him on the mouth.

Steve: 00:18:09

Yeah. Okay. Yeah.

Leif: 00:18:12

I mean, yeah, that happens.

Steve: 00:18:14

Yeah.

Leif: 00:18:15

Yeah. I felt like this episode was very even.

Leif: 00:18:18

I'll get into it more as we get to the grays, but, yeah.

Leif: 00:18:21

Like, the one storyline was really good. I thought this storyline was not

Leif: 00:18:24

as good.

Steve: 00:18:24

Yeah. Yeah.

Leif: 00:18:25

And also, the Blair storyline was not great

Leif: 00:18:28

either.

Steve: 00:18:29

Yeah. And. And it's funny because we talked last

Steve: 00:18:31

week about how. Or maybe it was two

Steve: 00:18:34

weeks ago about how this show will run

Steve: 00:18:37

three plot lines and tie all

Steve: 00:18:40

three plot lines up at the end of the, you, know, they'll run

Steve: 00:18:43

three stories an episode and tie them all

Steve: 00:18:46

up and to varying degrees of

Steve: 00:18:49

success. And really, I feel like

Steve: 00:18:52

the a storyline of Jenny

Steve: 00:18:54

was great. Like you said, the b

Steve: 00:18:57

storyline of Blair, I thought Washington. All right.

Steve: 00:19:00

I thought it. I thought it was a really weird one.

Leif: 00:19:02

Yeah.

Steve: 00:19:03

And then the sea storyline of

Steve: 00:19:05

Serena and Aaron is just like, why are we doing this?

Leif: 00:19:08

Aaron is a real dud of a character.

Steve: 00:19:10

Yeah. Why. Why are we doing this?

Steve: 00:19:13

Can she hand him some coke?

Leif: 00:19:16

Dan and Nate gets back to the loft, and just in time to see

Leif: 00:19:19

Jenny and Agnes leaving to set up the fashion show.

Leif: 00:19:22

Busted.

Steve: 00:19:24

Ah. such a judgey dick, too.

Steve: 00:19:26

He's. Yeah, Dan.

Steve: 00:19:29

Like, I mean.

Leif: 00:19:30

I mean, he's conflicted about the whole thing.

Steve: 00:19:33

I mean, he doesn't really know what she's doing other than

Steve: 00:19:36

just putting all of these outfits together to do a big

Steve: 00:19:39

show. Like, she's not it. To his

Steve: 00:19:42

knowledge, she's not doing anything illegal.

Leif: 00:19:44

Well, I. His issue is that she's just not telling

Leif: 00:19:47

Rufus.

Steve: 00:19:48

Yeah. So don't tell Rufus. Be a big brother

Steve: 00:19:51

for once.

Leif: 00:19:53

he does tell Rufus. Well, after it's like

Leif: 00:19:55

over.

Leif: 00:19:56

Jean-Paul: Yeah, but I think he's also at that line of, being

Leif: 00:19:59

a big brother.

Leif: 00:20:01

Yeah. He tells Rufus when

Leif: 00:20:04

Rufus sees them.

Steve: 00:20:05

Leaving, he tells Rufus as soon as he has the

Steve: 00:20:08

opportunity to tell they.

Leif: 00:20:09

Were at Rufus the gallery.

Steve: 00:20:11

I'm saying that Rufus walks in and he's like, I'm afraid she's making a

Steve: 00:20:13

mistake.

Leif: 00:20:14

I don't think he told her then. I don't think he told him that.

Steve: 00:20:17

The next time we see them, they're chasing them down.

Leif: 00:20:20

No, they're just walking up and then they see them, like

Leif: 00:20:23

taking off.

Leif: 00:20:24

Jean-Paul: Yeah, because I think he had already. He

Leif: 00:20:27

kisses them all together. when they see him, they were all

Leif: 00:20:30

together. But then he does end up kissing they and that's when

Leif: 00:20:33

they see it, and everything. But, but all. But

Leif: 00:20:36

also, I mean, Dan, Dan is playing

Leif: 00:20:39

that, like middle of the road type rather

Leif: 00:20:42

that you're like, you want to help and support

Leif: 00:20:44

your sister but you also kind of want to be

Leif: 00:20:47

a big brother and like, protect

Leif: 00:20:50

them and also like, be like,

Leif: 00:20:53

well, I'm the big brother, so I'm in charge of you. That kind of

Leif: 00:20:56

thing. yeah,

Leif: 00:20:59

it's that balance.

Leif: 00:21:00

It's a big thing. Yeah. She's already dropped out of school,

Leif: 00:21:03

now she's left her job and it's like,

Leif: 00:21:06

what's going on? Talk to your dad.

Leif: 00:21:08

Basically, that's basically all Dan's saying, I think.

Steve: 00:21:11

Yeah, and, yeah, I I really. Yeah.

Steve: 00:21:14

And we'll get to it in a little bit. But I really think he told

Steve: 00:21:17

Rufus right away. Like, I got the impression he told

Steve: 00:21:19

Rufus immediately.

Leif: 00:21:22

It appears Blair is in for more than

Leif: 00:21:25

Serena bargained for. When little Emma

Leif: 00:21:27

comes, out in the club attire and proclaims,

Leif: 00:21:30

I want Bacardi and a boy and this body is

Leif: 00:21:33

open for business.

Leif: 00:21:37

yeah, just what you want every 13 year old girls.

Steve: 00:21:40

Yeah, that was that storyline

Steve: 00:21:43

of. I. Yeah, go ahead.

Steve: 00:21:44

Jean-Paul: I was a. So, so she. I'm glad you clarified

Steve: 00:21:47

her age because,

Steve: 00:21:50

boy, did I think she was younger.

Leif: 00:21:52

Well, I. She could be younger. I

Leif: 00:21:55

thought. I thought she was at least like middle school.

Leif: 00:21:57

Jean-Paul: Yeah, that's what I thought. Like, so, so, middle schools are like twelve years old.

Leif: 00:22:00

And that's why I was just like, it's almost cringe

Leif: 00:22:03

worthy moment she comes out and then she's just

Leif: 00:22:06

like, I've got, you know, a

Leif: 00:22:09

credit card and a fake id, and I'm just like, oh, my gosh.

Leif: 00:22:12

Just. No, no. This is just too

Leif: 00:22:15

cringy. This is too weird.

Steve: 00:22:18

Yeah.

Leif: 00:22:19

Although, fair enough that the show actually finally pointed out

Leif: 00:22:22

fake id. These kids, you know, must have fake

Leif: 00:22:25

ids. Yeah, they'd be going to the bar since they're

Leif: 00:22:27

13.

Steve: 00:22:29

This scene also, we learned that Serena was eight

Steve: 00:22:32

when she met Erin, who is, you know, the

Steve: 00:22:35

possible college graduate now talking to

Steve: 00:22:38

this senior. So I wonder, if she was

Steve: 00:22:40

eight, he may have been as old as, like,

Steve: 00:22:43

twelve. Like, that's

Steve: 00:22:46

just fucking weird.

Steve: 00:22:48

Jean-Paul: That is weird.

Steve: 00:22:48

yeah.

Leif: 00:22:49

Yeah.

Steve: 00:22:49

The other thing I wanted to point out, though, the girl playing

Steve: 00:22:52

Emma, I really liked her. I really liked the

Steve: 00:22:55

acting. I really liked how she played off of

Steve: 00:22:58

stuff like her. Look, when Serena's like, you're gonna have to

Steve: 00:23:01

raid my closet. Like, I thought that she really

Steve: 00:23:04

came across as that, like, little girl. Kind

Steve: 00:23:07

of the excitement, the fan. The

Steve: 00:23:10

little fan girl kind of stuff. I appreciated.

Leif: 00:23:13

Dan gets the full story from Jenny, who

Leif: 00:23:15

puts all her cards on the table and puts her fate

Leif: 00:23:18

in her brother's hands. Dan does the

Leif: 00:23:21

brother thing and gives Jenny the few hours she

Leif: 00:23:24

needs.

Steve: 00:23:25

Yeah. This is also

Steve: 00:23:28

when Vanessa was really judgy about Nate.

Steve: 00:23:30

Right?

Leif: 00:23:31

Like, that's when they're at the gallery.

Steve: 00:23:33

Oh, this is.

Leif: 00:23:34

They're still at the loft here. Oh, okay.

Steve: 00:23:36

Okay.

Steve: 00:23:36

Jean-Paul: Yeah, because they're going back and forth, I think, when. With

Steve: 00:23:39

the. With Vanessa, like,

Steve: 00:23:42

figuring out whether she's still,

Steve: 00:23:46

well, appeared yet. Oh, okay.

Leif: 00:23:48

I don't think Vanessa's actually appeared yet.

Leif: 00:23:50

Jean-Paul: Okay, so this is before that. Okay.

Steve: 00:23:52

Yeah, this.

Leif: 00:23:53

This is where they're stuck a lot. Like, there's, like, a little break. Like when

Leif: 00:23:56

they, like, Dan sees them leaving and there's, like, there's

Leif: 00:23:59

a break. And then, now we come back and she explains everything.

Leif: 00:24:02

Jean-Paul: Okay.

Leif: 00:24:03

And Dan decides to. Dan does let her leave,

Leif: 00:24:05

basically at that point. And then the next

Leif: 00:24:08

scene is Blair is bitching out Serena for getting

Leif: 00:24:11

her into the mms. They also discuss Aaron, and

Leif: 00:24:14

Blair tells Serena to shut that shit down. I agree.

Leif: 00:24:18

Serena and Blair come up with a plan to keep Emma

Leif: 00:24:21

occupied.

Steve: 00:24:22

I jumped ahead. That's why I messed it

Steve: 00:24:24

up.

Leif: 00:24:25

Yeah. So this is where they. They come up with the plan to take her to the.

Leif: 00:24:28

The old people event.

Steve: 00:24:30

Yeah.

Leif: 00:24:31

Oh, I didn't know he'd be the sport.

Leif: 00:24:34

Jean-Paul: Yeah, that whole scene was really odd.

Leif: 00:24:38

Again, it just. Just. Cause I don't know,

Leif: 00:24:41

that whole, like, plan to trick

Leif: 00:24:44

a girl to get the flowers by,

Leif: 00:24:47

you know, the, lead.

Steve: 00:24:48

Trying.

Steve: 00:24:50

Jean-Paul: But.

Leif: 00:24:50

Well, they're not. They're not trying to get her to fly. You're trying to just keep

Leif: 00:24:53

her. Well.

Steve: 00:24:54

Yeah.

Leif: 00:24:55

Not gonna get. She's not gonna get the flower.

Leif: 00:24:56

Jean-Paul: No. But. But. But the fact that they said to her, hey.

Leif: 00:24:59

Oh, yeah.

Leif: 00:25:00

Jean-Paul: Well, let's go somewhere, you know, better,

Leif: 00:25:03

and instead of just, you know, behind this. This

Leif: 00:25:05

guy's alley, so to speak.

Steve: 00:25:08

Yeah. To promise the 13 year old we're gonna

Steve: 00:25:11

go find you. Sex at the elite.

Steve: 00:25:12

Jean-Paul: Yeah.

Steve: 00:25:13

Then is a little weird.

Steve: 00:25:14

Jean-Paul: So weird.

Leif: 00:25:16

Well, I assume

Leif: 00:25:19

what, Emma was thinking was probably, like, a party with,

Leif: 00:25:21

like, the Nate and chucks of the world, right?

Steve: 00:25:23

Exactly.

Leif: 00:25:24

Which she then ends up finding, of course. Yeah.

Leif: 00:25:27

Jean-Paul: Yeah.

Leif: 00:25:28

Without any help at the gallery.

Leif: 00:25:31

Actually, one more thing for that scene. And you were talking about her being all

Leif: 00:25:34

excited for the dresses. How is she

Leif: 00:25:37

fitting into these dresses?

Steve: 00:25:38

Oh, yeah. Oh, she is. She

Steve: 00:25:41

is. Arena.

Leif: 00:25:42

These are plus one dresses. I guess they're.

Steve: 00:25:45

They're magic. Plus one dresses, they resize.

Steve: 00:25:47

They automatically resize to your dear build.

Steve: 00:25:51

Jean-Paul: It's magic.

Steve: 00:25:52

It's a Vander Woodson.

Leif: 00:25:54

Yeah. So at the gallery,

Leif: 00:25:57

Dan. So this is what.

Leif: 00:25:58

Jean-Paul: Yeah.

Leif: 00:25:58

Here we get the Dan. Vanessa. Here at the gallery,

Leif: 00:26:01

Dan is still weighing his decision not to title on

Leif: 00:26:03

Jenny. Vanessa is advising Dan to give

Leif: 00:26:06

Jenny some more time. They also discuss the Nate

Leif: 00:26:09

situation. Vanessa still clearly has feelings

Leif: 00:26:12

for Nate.

Steve: 00:26:13

Yeah. Fuck you, Vanessa.

Steve: 00:26:18

just every fucking time. Why do you

Steve: 00:26:21

just have to be such a downer?

Leif: 00:26:24

Yeah. Yeah. Giving Dan. Why did she

Leif: 00:26:26

spill the tea to dad about me? Yeah, that was the thing

Leif: 00:26:29

that got a dad the most upset.

Steve: 00:26:32

Yeah. Yeah. And, like, she violated

Steve: 00:26:34

Nate's trust by telling Dan,

Steve: 00:26:37

which. And then. Yeah, like, how would you do

Steve: 00:26:40

that?

Leif: 00:26:40

Like, Chuck and Emma meet in the great room

Leif: 00:26:43

of the Vanderbass penthouse. Chuck blows

Leif: 00:26:46

up Serena and Playa's ruse and picks up

Leif: 00:26:49

Emma.

Steve: 00:26:50

You, ah, just hooked yourself a bat. Oh, yeah.

Leif: 00:26:55

Did you think he was gonna go for it here?

Leif: 00:26:58

Jean-Paul: I.

Steve: 00:26:59

God, I was like, no, I I.

Leif: 00:27:02

Mean, first season Chuck, I think, would have.

Steve: 00:27:04

I think episode one. Chuck would have for

Steve: 00:27:07

sure. I think part. See,

Steve: 00:27:10

I think season one, before

Steve: 00:27:14

Victor Victrola. Yes,

Steve: 00:27:17

I think after Victor. Victor.

Steve: 00:27:20

No, because. Because of Blaire,

Steve: 00:27:23

but also maybe episode season two. Episode

Steve: 00:27:26

two, Chuck.

Leif: 00:27:27

Yeah, there's a spring episode where he's, you

Leif: 00:27:30

know, trying to hook up with multiple prostitutes and failing at it.

Steve: 00:27:33

Yeah, yeah, but.

Steve: 00:27:34

Jean-Paul: But see, that's where I'm gonna have to disagree with

Steve: 00:27:37

you. Only because the.

Steve: 00:27:40

The type of person that, you know, he is,

Steve: 00:27:43

he's a very conniving and, what's

Steve: 00:27:46

today? Tactful person in his own mind.

Steve: 00:27:49

So he knows that a young girl

Steve: 00:27:52

who is, let's let's say she's twelve or

Steve: 00:27:55

13 and he is

Steve: 00:27:58

17, he knows that

Steve: 00:28:00

that's not going to get him

Steve: 00:28:03

anywhere.

Leif: 00:28:04

Yeah, but, yeah, that with, pilot

Leif: 00:28:07

episode where he is 16 and Jenny is 13.

Leif: 00:28:10

One year difference.

Leif: 00:28:12

Jean-Paul: But but again, I'm I don't

Leif: 00:28:15

know. It still.

Leif: 00:28:18

I guess it depends on how old this girl actually is.

Leif: 00:28:21

Jean-Paul: Yeah.

Leif: 00:28:22

I think she could pass as 13.

Leif: 00:28:24

Jean-Paul: She get passes.

Leif: 00:28:25

13 is a weird thing to say.

Leif: 00:28:26

Jean-Paul: Yeah, 13. But I

Leif: 00:28:29

in my head, again, I still feel like this girl's like,

Leif: 00:28:32

well, you know.

Steve: 00:28:34

Yeah. Which she could.

Leif: 00:28:35

She can. She could ban. She could be anywhere from, like, 1211.

Steve: 00:28:38

I say. I'd say, yeah. I'd say twelve to

Steve: 00:28:41

14. Yeah.

Steve: 00:28:42

Jean-Paul: So. So even even you know what

Steve: 00:28:45

ensues 14 because.

Steve: 00:28:46

Yeah. Yeah.

Steve: 00:28:47

Jean-Paul: What ensues? What did you know? She she

Steve: 00:28:50

tries to jump him, and he just goes, no, I'm not

Steve: 00:28:53

gonna. So I'm like, okay.

Steve: 00:28:56

And, it goes. It goes like I said, it goes back to his. This character

Steve: 00:28:59

of, like, you hate him and you love them and you hate him and

Steve: 00:29:02

you love them and. Yeah, like,

Steve: 00:29:05

he.

Steve: 00:29:05

And you hate. You hate to love.

Steve: 00:29:07

Jean-Paul: Hate to love him. Exactly.

Leif: 00:29:11

Serena receives another licorice ring from

Leif: 00:29:13

Aaron and is immediately interrupted by

Leif: 00:29:16

Blair, who has discovered Emma is missing

Leif: 00:29:19

an old, stale piece of licorice.

Steve: 00:29:21

Yeah. Yeah, that's not.

Leif: 00:29:23

That's that weird that he kept the piece of licorice for, was eight

Leif: 00:29:26

years.

Steve: 00:29:26

Yeah, nine years. Nine years. She says, let's wait another

Steve: 00:29:29

nine years is what she says when she's walking away.

Steve: 00:29:32

Jean-Paul: Kind of creepy. Or or that this guy's mo and that's what he

Steve: 00:29:35

did with all the. Yeah, he made a licorice

Steve: 00:29:38

rings.

Steve: 00:29:38

Yeah, he has, he has a. He has, like, a

Steve: 00:29:42

trophy case of licorice rings, each

Steve: 00:29:45

with the name of the of

Steve: 00:29:48

the little girl he married at camp.

Leif: 00:29:50

Yes. When he was a camp counselor.

Steve: 00:29:53

He started when he was six years old and then just

Steve: 00:29:56

kept going every year until he

Steve: 00:29:59

became a counselor. Oh,

Steve: 00:30:01

disgusting. And that's who all these girls are.

Steve: 00:30:04

Jean-Paul: Yeah.

Steve: 00:30:04

fan. That's my new fan theory.

Steve: 00:30:06

Jean-Paul: I mean, I'm going to be on board with that

Steve: 00:30:09

because he just is a creep.

Steve: 00:30:11

He, only has come across as creepy to me so

Steve: 00:30:14

far.

Leif: 00:30:15

Chuck is riding in his limo with Emma, who

Leif: 00:30:18

is trying to throw herself at him.

Leif: 00:30:22

Spotted bass taking the bait. Jail

Leif: 00:30:25

bait, that is. Yeah.

Leif: 00:30:28

Yeah, Chuck is, sitting there in the limba, you know?

Steve: 00:30:31

Yeah.

Steve: 00:30:32

Jean-Paul: We learn.

Leif: 00:30:32

Later, though, he holds the limo sacred. Jenny,

Leif: 00:30:35

while loading a van to go to the fashion show, is

Leif: 00:30:38

trying to get Nate to admit his feelings. Nate can't

Leif: 00:30:41

seem to verbalize, so just offers to drive.

Leif: 00:30:44

Rufus, Vanessa, and Dan walk up just in time to see

Leif: 00:30:47

the van pull away.

Steve: 00:30:49

So. So this is why I felt so

Steve: 00:30:51

earlier on, Rufus walked in

Steve: 00:30:54

when Dan said, I'm just worried she's making a huge

Steve: 00:30:57

mistake. And Rufus was right there and goes,

Steve: 00:31:00

who? So the next time we see them,

Steve: 00:31:03

it's Dan, Rufus, and Vanessa

Steve: 00:31:06

all walking up together to where Jenny

Steve: 00:31:08

was. I assumed then Dan is a

Steve: 00:31:11

snitch, that Dan was, like, the way they.

Leif: 00:31:13

Were walking, though, they're just so casually walking.

Leif: 00:31:16

Jean-Paul: Yeah, I would agree. They were very

Leif: 00:31:19

much casually walking until

Leif: 00:31:21

they saw the van pulling away. But

Leif: 00:31:25

before that, there was the kiss, right?

Leif: 00:31:27

Yeah, if I remember.

Steve: 00:31:28

No, the kiss has not happened.

Steve: 00:31:30

Jean-Paul: Oh, I'm sorry. You're like, the kiss has not happened, but there's

Steve: 00:31:33

that weird closeness, and then there

Steve: 00:31:36

is then Nate.

Leif: 00:31:37

Well, also, they're. They're seeing their. The, 15 year

Leif: 00:31:40

old daughter getting into a strange van.

Leif: 00:31:42

Jean-Paul: Right, right.

Leif: 00:31:43

Well, which is always concerning my.

Steve: 00:31:45

My thought on this van.

Steve: 00:31:47

Jean-Paul: Right? If I.

Steve: 00:31:47

Right, yeah. Nate's driving. Yeah.

Steve: 00:31:49

Jean-Paul: So there is one of my,

Steve: 00:31:51

And kind of where I lead to this is that even if

Steve: 00:31:53

Dan, when Rufus came in, didn't say,

Steve: 00:31:57

hey, Jenny's doing this

Steve: 00:31:59

thing, he did know

Steve: 00:32:02

where Jenny was parked and did

Steve: 00:32:05

at least lead Rufus right to it.

Steve: 00:32:08

Like, I feel like Dan

Steve: 00:32:11

led Rufus to her. Whether he came

Steve: 00:32:14

out and said, jenny's making a huge mistake,

Steve: 00:32:17

that. That is just my gut feeling on this, is

Steve: 00:32:19

that Dan couldn't keep his mouth

Steve: 00:32:22

shut.

Leif: 00:32:23

Or at least it seemed like they should have been

Leif: 00:32:25

gone by then.

Steve: 00:32:27

Well, they were loading up. I mean.

Leif: 00:32:29

Well, yeah, they were. They were loading up when he left, went

Leif: 00:32:32

to the gallery, had a whole conversation with Vanessa about

Leif: 00:32:35

it. Then you're saying told

Leif: 00:32:37

Rufus and then walked all the way

Leif: 00:32:40

back.

Steve: 00:32:40

But, I mean, they were right. I. Hey, I, I'm just

Steve: 00:32:43

saying that was the impression I got, that Dan took.

Leif: 00:32:46

Fair enough.

Steve: 00:32:47

Because they agree. Yeah. Well, my last

Steve: 00:32:50

closing point to that is they did close up the gallery

Steve: 00:32:52

to go back to the loft.

Leif: 00:32:54

So it was getting towards evening at that point.

Steve: 00:32:56

Yeah. Yeah. They've been opened in the

Steve: 00:32:59

evening.

Leif: 00:33:03

They had that big opening. Maybe they asked some employees.

Steve: 00:33:05

Now, do you think it's beyond Dan to

Steve: 00:33:08

snitch here?

Leif: 00:33:09

No, but I just don't.

Steve: 00:33:10

No further questions. Your honor.

Leif: 00:33:13

Okay, that's not. That's not how it works. Gotta be

Leif: 00:33:16

reasonable doubt. There's plenty of reasonable doubt there.

Steve: 00:33:18

I've got. I've got zero down.

Leif: 00:33:22

we go into act two. Blair confronts

Leif: 00:33:25

Chuck about Emma, who denies having done anything with

Leif: 00:33:28

her because Serena is best friends with every

Leif: 00:33:31

bartender in town. She gets a text alert telling

Leif: 00:33:33

her that E. Boardman has used

Leif: 00:33:36

her credit card. At one oak, Blair ropes

Leif: 00:33:39

both Serena and chuck into helping her track down the

Leif: 00:33:42

troublemaker.

Steve: 00:33:43

The back of the limo is sacred.

Steve: 00:33:48

Jean-Paul: But I.

Steve: 00:33:49

That girl assaulted me.

Steve: 00:33:52

Jean-Paul: That. Yeah, that girl assaulted me. That.

Steve: 00:33:55

So again, yeah, Chuck there

Steve: 00:33:58

is trying to be a stand up gentleman.

Leif: 00:34:01

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Steve: 00:34:03

Chuck 2.0.

Leif: 00:34:04

But again, I can't fault him in this episode at all.

Leif: 00:34:07

Jean-Paul: no, and when I say stand up, gentlemen, I mean

Leif: 00:34:10

covering his own ass because he doesn't want to go to jail for

Leif: 00:34:13

statutory rate.

Steve: 00:34:14

Yeah. Whatever his reason, he does the right

Steve: 00:34:17

thing.

Steve: 00:34:17

Jean-Paul: Yeah, he does the right thing in the best

Steve: 00:34:20

way that Chuck does his right thing to benefit

Steve: 00:34:23

Chuck.

Steve: 00:34:24

Yeah.

Leif: 00:34:26

Well, I believe in this moment that he believes they. The

Leif: 00:34:28

dilemma is sacred.

Steve: 00:34:30

Yeah, I do think.

Leif: 00:34:31

And at this very moment, I don't know if that's going to stay that way,

Leif: 00:34:34

but at this moment, he believes that.

Leif: 00:34:36

Jean-Paul: All right.

Steve: 00:34:36

Yeah.

Steve: 00:34:37

Jean-Paul: I'll give you that. I'll give you that.

Steve: 00:34:40

So that goes back to his own beliefs and his own stand

Steve: 00:34:43

up thing.

Steve: 00:34:43

Yeah.

Leif: 00:34:44

Oh, yeah. Outside

Leif: 00:34:47

the palace hotel. What I'm saying is, if it

Leif: 00:34:49

wasn't the limo, he might have gone for it.

Leif: 00:34:55

Jean-Paul: I mean, again, Chuck is. Chuck does whatever

Leif: 00:34:58

Chuck wants to do.

Leif: 00:35:02

Except, outside the young girl.

Leif: 00:35:04

Yeah. Outside the palace,

Leif: 00:35:07

Jenny tells Nate how they are having a guerrilla fashion

Leif: 00:35:10

show here because they need wealthy financial

Leif: 00:35:12

backers. Jenny persuades Nate to stay

Leif: 00:35:15

and help with the show.

Steve: 00:35:17

I love that Jenny has really done the

Steve: 00:35:20

work. Like, they really, really

Steve: 00:35:22

establish over and over that Jenny

Steve: 00:35:25

has done the work to earn

Steve: 00:35:28

what she's doing. Yeah. And over

Steve: 00:35:31

and over that has. She has proven that,

Steve: 00:35:34

which is one of the things that makes her. What makes me

Steve: 00:35:37

like that character so.

Steve: 00:35:38

Jean-Paul: Much now I also feel like

Steve: 00:35:41

I agree with you saying that she has done the work.

Steve: 00:35:44

You also have her friend. I forget her friend's name

Steve: 00:35:47

right now.

Steve: 00:35:48

Agnes.

Steve: 00:35:48

Jean-Paul: Agneshe just really being

Steve: 00:35:51

that little devil, on the side.

Leif: 00:35:54

Yeah.

Leif: 00:35:55

Jean-Paul: Going. Yeah, you can do this. Yeah, let's do

Leif: 00:35:58

this. You know, I'm going to make sure that this

Leif: 00:36:01

happens for us. You know,

Leif: 00:36:03

secretly, I'm interested to see.

Leif: 00:36:05

If, we find out more of her reasons.

Leif: 00:36:07

Jean-Paul: Yeah.

Leif: 00:36:07

In the coming episodes, can I also.

Steve: 00:36:09

Say that I can't say her name without wanting to say

Steve: 00:36:12

Agnes, agatha Germaine and Jack.

Steve: 00:36:18

Fair enough. Friends. And that's a fact. Like

Steve: 00:36:21

Agatha. Agnes, Agatha Germaine and

Steve: 00:36:23

Jack.

Steve: 00:36:24

Jean-Paul: Very nice.

Steve: 00:36:27

You.

Steve: 00:36:28

You got what I need?

Steve: 00:36:32

You say he's just a friend?

Leif: 00:36:35

You say he's just a friend?

Leif: 00:36:37

Jean-Paul: Oh, baby.

Steve: 00:36:39

I actually saw him DJ, Andre,

Steve: 00:36:41

Andre's band did this, like, his tribute

Steve: 00:36:44

banded this nineties eighties thing at the

Steve: 00:36:47

TLA. And in between the

Steve: 00:36:50

sets, Biz Marquis came out and

Steve: 00:36:52

dj'd, and he just. He

Steve: 00:36:55

just really, like, it was so much

Steve: 00:36:58

fun. Played, like, the great mix of, like,

Steve: 00:37:01

perfect. Like, perfect, to the

Steve: 00:37:04

crowd and played the first half of that. He's like, I'm gonna

Steve: 00:37:07

remind you all why you know me. Played the first half of the song and then

Steve: 00:37:10

stopped and goes, we'll do the rest later.

Steve: 00:37:13

Jean-Paul: In 98, I saw him open up for the Beastie

Steve: 00:37:16

boys.

Leif: 00:37:17

Oh, that's.

Leif: 00:37:18

Jean-Paul: And I saw live the

Leif: 00:37:21

Bendy and the Jets Beastie boys. That is on one of

Leif: 00:37:24

the b sides of the Beastie Boys album.

Steve: 00:37:27

Oh, that's awesome.

Steve: 00:37:27

Jean-Paul: So it's Biz Markie and the beastie boy. So,

Steve: 00:37:30

you know, rest in Penny's bizarre Marky.

Steve: 00:37:34

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Leif: 00:37:36

Or without. To the homies.

Steve: 00:37:36

Yeah, yeah. This is beat of the day from yo gabba

Steve: 00:37:39

gabba. Like, my kids were into that shit. He was

Steve: 00:37:42

generational.

Leif: 00:37:43

Blair and Serena track down Emma, who is

Leif: 00:37:46

flirting with a guy in a booth. Blair and Serena,

Leif: 00:37:49

momentarily distracted. Emma sneaks out with her

Leif: 00:37:52

new boy toy.

Steve: 00:37:53

Yeah, I love how she

Steve: 00:37:56

calls. She refers to Aaron as her

Steve: 00:37:59

albatross. Like, we'll worry about your

Steve: 00:38:01

albatross after I find mine.

Leif: 00:38:05

Yeah, but Blair's speaking truth. This episode about

Leif: 00:38:08

Aaron.

Steve: 00:38:08

At least Blair sees right through this shit

Steve: 00:38:11

and wants nothing to do with this Aaron

Steve: 00:38:13

guy. Although this is. I

Steve: 00:38:16

believe there's also a pattern

Steve: 00:38:19

developing of when

Steve: 00:38:22

Serena likes someone,

Steve: 00:38:25

Blair doesn't that kind of.

Steve: 00:38:27

And, I mean, I know I have been like that as

Steve: 00:38:30

a friend, too, that, like, I just. Whoever my one

Steve: 00:38:33

friend brought home, I didn't like, you know?

Leif: 00:38:37

So I jump. I have a theory

Leif: 00:38:40

that throughout the show, there's, like, a hidden subtext of

Leif: 00:38:43

Blair being in love with Serena, which you've also

Leif: 00:38:46

mentioned.

Leif: 00:38:46

Jean-Paul: I mean, I would not, take that away. No,

Leif: 00:38:49

I agree with you. Yeah.

Steve: 00:38:51

Yeah.

Steve: 00:38:51

Jean-Paul: I mean, yeah, there's. There's. There's. There's that weird

Steve: 00:38:54

jealousy, you know?

Leif: 00:38:56

Yeah, but it's also like they never.

Leif: 00:38:59

They never really go there. But it's like, it's just. It's just under

Leif: 00:39:02

the surface.

Leif: 00:39:03

Jean-Paul: Yeah, but, I mean, there's there's that, and there's also,

Leif: 00:39:05

like, they kind of, like, have that

Leif: 00:39:08

impeding thing where they, like, look up to each other in a

Leif: 00:39:11

weird way, and then they, like, yeah. and get

Leif: 00:39:14

upset if the other one, like, does something extremely,

Leif: 00:39:17

extremely stupid.

Leif: 00:39:18

So obviously, they're m extremely coded.

Steve: 00:39:20

Yeah.

Steve: 00:39:20

Jean-Paul: So obviously. Yeah. When it comes to, like, guys, they're going to be

Steve: 00:39:23

like, yeah, he sees that. Good for you.

Steve: 00:39:26

Yeah.

Steve: 00:39:26

Jean-Paul: And, no, I'm not going to tell you.

Steve: 00:39:30

Yeah. Yeah. And there's a thought of, does she

Steve: 00:39:33

want to be with Serena, or does she want to

Steve: 00:39:36

be Serena?

Steve: 00:39:37

Jean-Paul: That's a good point.

Steve: 00:39:39

A lot of that jealousy comes up a lot,

Steve: 00:39:41

too. So when Serena's with someone that she doesn't like,

Steve: 00:39:44

well, I wouldn't like that person.

Steve: 00:39:46

Jean-Paul: Right.

Steve: 00:39:46

You know what?

Leif: 00:39:49

I don't think she wants to be Serena. She wants the attention, but

Leif: 00:39:52

she wants to be her and get the attention.

Steve: 00:39:54

Yeah. Yeah, yeah.

Leif: 00:39:55

Serena gets,

Steve: 00:39:55

Well, I think she wants the attention, and she

Steve: 00:39:58

wants the

Steve: 00:40:00

ease of Serena, that

Steve: 00:40:03

Serena. Things just come

Steve: 00:40:05

naturally and easy in Blair's mind

Steve: 00:40:08

that she wants not to have to work for

Steve: 00:40:11

every little bit of a brute.

Steve: 00:40:12

Jean-Paul: The golden child.

Steve: 00:40:14

Yeah.

Leif: 00:40:16

Inside the gala, Jenny realizes Bart

Leif: 00:40:19

and Lily are the ones getting honored and starts to

Leif: 00:40:22

get a bit nervous. However, Jenny,

Leif: 00:40:25

always the quick thinker, checks in under

Leif: 00:40:27

Eric's name.

Steve: 00:40:29

So, so smooth.

Steve: 00:40:32

Sometimes they leave off the a.

Leif: 00:40:35

So smooth m. And where is Eric, though? Why isn't

Leif: 00:40:38

he?

Steve: 00:40:38

Yeah.

Leif: 00:40:41

They couldn't afford him this episode.

Steve: 00:40:43

Yeah.

Leif: 00:40:43

A very guilty Jenny bumps into Lily, but

Leif: 00:40:46

luckily, Nate steps in to cover her. Nate

Leif: 00:40:49

is definitely making a habit of saving Jenny.

Leif: 00:40:52

Jenny is melting down, and Nate pulls her in for

Leif: 00:40:55

a big old smooch. But if Jenny and Nate

Leif: 00:40:58

were trying to hide their relationship, it looks like the

Leif: 00:41:01

cat is about to burst out of the bag,

Leif: 00:41:04

howling and screaming. The mini Serena from

Leif: 00:41:06

the Dark Knight episode snaps a photo of the

Leif: 00:41:09

kiss.

Steve: 00:41:10

Yep. You're way too public of

Steve: 00:41:13

a person to be kissing in public. The two of you.

Leif: 00:41:16

Did everyone, recognize the little girl?

Leif: 00:41:18

Jean-Paul: I didn't, so I'm glad you said that. I

Leif: 00:41:21

did not.

Leif: 00:41:22

Yeah. So she's a recurring, like, her and the

Leif: 00:41:25

mini Blair come back a few times throughout the series?

Leif: 00:41:27

Jean-Paul: Yeah, no, I remember them, but I didn't. I didn't

Leif: 00:41:30

have, like, put it together in this episode.

Steve: 00:41:33

Yeah.

Leif: 00:41:33

Back at the bar, Blair continues

Leif: 00:41:36

to whine at Serena. But thanks to Chuck's

Leif: 00:41:39

investigation, Blair gets a picture of Emma's

Leif: 00:41:42

mummy cheating on.

Steve: 00:41:43

Daddy, that seems like a good

Steve: 00:41:46

plan b.

Leif: 00:41:49

Sure. Get it to get it to yell by

Leif: 00:41:51

blackmailing.

Steve: 00:41:52

I mean, this is Blair. Yeah, it's Blair.

Leif: 00:41:55

It is definitely Blair.

Steve: 00:41:57

That is classic Blair.

Leif: 00:41:59

But. Well, really, would it really have

Leif: 00:42:02

worked.

Steve: 00:42:02

In gossip girl terms?

Steve: 00:42:05

Jean-Paul: Well, I think it depends really

Steve: 00:42:07

how connected this. This woman really

Steve: 00:42:10

is because. Well, I think they would.

Leif: 00:42:13

I mean, she basically got in based on

Leif: 00:42:16

the daughter's recommendations. I guess the

Leif: 00:42:19

mom must be.

Leif: 00:42:19

Jean-Paul: I mean, yeah, that, I guess. Yeah, probably.

Leif: 00:42:22

Jenny and Agnes are doing some last minute prep. It

Leif: 00:42:25

looks like Agnes has a minion working the av

Leif: 00:42:28

for the gala.

Leif: 00:42:29

Jean-Paul: Now. Now.

Leif: 00:42:31

Do anything creepy with my fret.

Steve: 00:42:32

Yeah.

Steve: 00:42:32

Jean-Paul: Now, do you guys know the little weird trivia of that

Steve: 00:42:35

thing? Because I actually, I found this

Steve: 00:42:38

out and I was like that, it kind of makes

Steve: 00:42:41

sense. Notice that kid does not say a

Steve: 00:42:44

single line. He just does weird

Steve: 00:42:46

motions with his face. yeah, that was a

Steve: 00:42:49

contest winner to get on the show.

Leif: 00:42:52

Really?

Leif: 00:42:53

Jean-Paul: Wow.

Leif: 00:42:53

I did not know that.

Leif: 00:42:54

Jean-Paul: Yeah, cuz, cuz I was. Because

Leif: 00:42:57

when I watch tv or watch movies, I

Leif: 00:43:00

don't know, sometimes that my weird thing in my mind, I'm

Leif: 00:43:03

like, why is that person just

Leif: 00:43:05

there? You know?

Leif: 00:43:08

So I went and I recently I

Leif: 00:43:11

found that apparently they had a contest to be on the show.

Leif: 00:43:16

It was contest with a lot of those at Gossip Girl, actually,

Leif: 00:43:19

a lot of like, just people just there.

Leif: 00:43:20

Jean-Paul: Yeah, so, yeah, so that was a contest whenever

Leif: 00:43:23

they want to be a role on

Leif: 00:43:26

Gotham girl.

Leif: 00:43:27

And I'm like, I can't.

Leif: 00:43:28

Jean-Paul: That totally makes sense. It tracks because

Leif: 00:43:31

just no line, just

Leif: 00:43:34

the facial, you know,

Leif: 00:43:37

stand here. You know, it's kind of like I just

Leif: 00:43:40

recently found out I. In the movie masters of the v

Leif: 00:43:43

universe from 1987, the Dolph Lundrin one.

Steve: 00:43:46

I prefer to think of it as the Frank Langello one.

Steve: 00:43:48

Jean-Paul: There you go. There you go. Well, okay.

Steve: 00:43:51

Fred Van Dillo, towards the

Steve: 00:43:54

end, he grabs the staff from that little

Steve: 00:43:56

child. yeah, yeah, that was a contest

Steve: 00:43:59

winner.

Steve: 00:44:02

I only felt.

Steve: 00:44:03

I remember that contest. Yeah, I remember that

Steve: 00:44:05

contest. I entered that contest. Like fucking

Steve: 00:44:08

everybody entered that contest of a certain age.

Steve: 00:44:11

Jean-Paul: Everybody entered that contest. Yeah.

Steve: 00:44:13

Yeah. If I remember correctly, it was a clip off

Steve: 00:44:15

the proof of purchase from the back of your he man

Steve: 00:44:18

guy and send it in and you could enter the

Steve: 00:44:21

contest.

Steve: 00:44:22

Jean-Paul: Exactly.

Steve: 00:44:22

Yes. I remember hating that kid because he won.

Steve: 00:44:25

Yeah, yeah, I didn't.

Steve: 00:44:26

Jean-Paul: I didn't know until recently that, because I

Steve: 00:44:29

just purchased the. Listened to the commentary with

Steve: 00:44:32

director and. And people said, yeah,

Steve: 00:44:35

people always wondered why this kid just, you know, it was so

Steve: 00:44:37

random and weird. And he's like, because they made me put

Steve: 00:44:40

this kid in here because he was a contest winner.

Leif: 00:44:43

Wow.

Leif: 00:44:44

Jean-Paul: So, so, again, that's where my man kind of was

Leif: 00:44:47

because I heard that and I thought, this kid in this

Leif: 00:44:50

scene is just like, I'm just going to put the usb

Leif: 00:44:53

in this container and weird things

Leif: 00:44:56

that I'm like, I don't know, let me look it up. And I

Leif: 00:44:58

fear he won. He won. He won the

Leif: 00:45:01

role.

Steve: 00:45:02

Walk on roller Johnson. Another side note, Frank

Steve: 00:45:05

Lingela is one of my fraternity brothers. He is a

Steve: 00:45:07

brother, of Alpha Chi wro.

Steve: 00:45:09

Jean-Paul: Oh, wow.

Steve: 00:45:10

yeah, yeah. When I was pledging, he was like, listed in

Steve: 00:45:12

our book as like one of our influential brothers. Because

Steve: 00:45:15

he, you know, because by then this was well after masters of

Steve: 00:45:18

the universe and some other. But. And yeah,

Steve: 00:45:21

Alpha Chi row brother.

Steve: 00:45:22

Jean-Paul: Oh, wow. So this would have been like when, you know, he was probably

Steve: 00:45:25

in that, that movie with Whoopi. Gulp.

Leif: 00:45:31

At the loft. Rufus, Vanessa and Dan are still trying to

Leif: 00:45:34

track down Jenny. When Dan sees the gossip girl blast,

Leif: 00:45:37

allowing Nate and Jenny, or, showing Nate and Jenny kissing at

Leif: 00:45:40

the palace, he hides the blast from the others.

Steve: 00:45:44

Yeah. And goes into

Steve: 00:45:47

big brother mode. He's such an

Steve: 00:45:49

asshole.

Steve: 00:45:50

Jean-Paul: So. So, yeah, was he doing this big brother mode or

Steve: 00:45:53

was he also like, you know, I guess big brother

Steve: 00:45:56

mode protecting my sister? or big brother mode,

Steve: 00:45:59

I'm going to kill

Steve: 00:46:01

Nate for making my

Steve: 00:46:04

sister.

Steve: 00:46:05

And there is this big part of me that, like, when I was

Steve: 00:46:08

in college, my best friend made out with my

Steve: 00:46:11

little sister. I wanted to strangle the life out of it.

Steve: 00:46:13

Jean-Paul: Well, there you go. For sure.

Steve: 00:46:16

I didn't. He's still my best friend.

Steve: 00:46:17

Jean-Paul: Okay.

Steve: 00:46:18

But I wanted to strangle

Steve: 00:46:21

the life out of him back then. So, like, I kind of

Steve: 00:46:23

get Dan here. Like, I feel like I would have been like that

Steve: 00:46:26

too. But also, you're an asshole, Dan. Because I was

Steve: 00:46:29

also an asshole too, to be fair.

Leif: 00:46:31

I also noticed something in the scene. Dan

Leif: 00:46:34

checking, gossip girl alerts and getting gossip girl alerts on

Leif: 00:46:37

his computer. Now. He's fully kind of in

Leif: 00:46:40

the game now.

Steve: 00:46:41

Oh, that's true.

Steve: 00:46:43

Jean-Paul: That's a good point.

Steve: 00:46:44

You went to Gossip Girl. Or did he

Steve: 00:46:46

go to Gossip Girl to find her or. It was, it was an email

Steve: 00:46:49

blast.

Steve: 00:46:50

Jean-Paul: If I remember right.

Leif: 00:46:51

Yeah, it was.

Leif: 00:46:52

Jean-Paul: So, so, so clearly he's on the.

Leif: 00:46:54

He's now.

Leif: 00:46:55

Jean-Paul: He's subscribed. Yeah, he's now. Like, I'm

Leif: 00:46:58

in. I want to know this whole gossip world

Leif: 00:47:01

or whatever.

Steve: 00:47:03

hm.

Steve: 00:47:03

Jean-Paul: So, yeah.

Leif: 00:47:06

We hear lonely boys BFF still

Leif: 00:47:08

carries a torch for Nate. If she finds out

Leif: 00:47:11

about little sister wonder who'll get

Leif: 00:47:14

burned. We move

Leif: 00:47:17

into act three. Rvd,

Leif: 00:47:20

not Rob van Dam, but Rufus. Dan and Vanessa are, now in

Leif: 00:47:23

a cab heading towards the palace.

Leif: 00:47:25

Jean-Paul: Okay, so that's a one. I've got to say

Leif: 00:47:28

something. That whole thing in the cab, and

Leif: 00:47:31

Rufus is like, you know, banging and going

Leif: 00:47:34

absolutely crazy and giving the

Leif: 00:47:36

$1 bill. It's the worst

Leif: 00:47:39

acting.

Steve: 00:47:41

Yeah.

Steve: 00:47:42

Jean-Paul: Rufus really bad. Has ever done,

Steve: 00:47:45

I think, in the span of this show.

Steve: 00:47:47

This is honestly maybe Rufus's

Steve: 00:47:50

worst episode, and he's had another bad

Steve: 00:47:52

episode.

Leif: 00:47:53

Yeah, he was really bad.

Steve: 00:47:55

He was really bad in this one.

Leif: 00:47:56

But, yeah, the acting was very bad.

Steve: 00:47:58

It was terrible. Yeah.

Steve: 00:48:00

Jean-Paul: And the thing is, I, enjoy his character, but in

Steve: 00:48:03

this episode, I was just like,

Steve: 00:48:06

I feel the only reason they really

Steve: 00:48:09

put him in was here, have this

Steve: 00:48:12

be a dad. But he did such

Steve: 00:48:14

a job being a dad in this

Steve: 00:48:17

episode that it's just like, the episode

Steve: 00:48:20

could have actually been okay with him not even in

Steve: 00:48:23

it.

Steve: 00:48:24

Yeah.

Leif: 00:48:24

You know, what I've always said is, I enjoy Rufus when he's

Leif: 00:48:27

interacting with Dan and when he's interacting with Lily.

Steve: 00:48:30

Yeah.

Leif: 00:48:30

But when he's interacting with Jenny and parenting Jenny, he

Leif: 00:48:33

is. He's horrible.

Leif: 00:48:34

Jean-Paul: Yeah.

Steve: 00:48:35

Worst.

Leif: 00:48:35

He's so different with his parenting towards Jenny than when he

Leif: 00:48:38

is with Dan.

Steve: 00:48:39

Yeah. Yeah. Completely different and. And

Steve: 00:48:42

really shitty to Jenny all the time.

Leif: 00:48:44

RVD arrives at the palace and are let into the

Leif: 00:48:46

event by Lily, who seems to be just chilling by

Leif: 00:48:49

the entrance, waiting to bump into people. Bart

Leif: 00:48:52

seems very annoyed when he sees Rufus

Leif: 00:48:55

at the event.

Leif: 00:48:58

Jean-Paul: The handshake alone. The handshake alone.

Steve: 00:49:01

That was so. Yeah, that awkward.

Leif: 00:49:03

Well, I didn't invite him. Yeah, but,

Leif: 00:49:06

like, which he didn't, and.

Steve: 00:49:08

Rufus had every right to because this dude fucking

Steve: 00:49:11

shows up all the time.

Steve: 00:49:13

Jean-Paul: Like.

Steve: 00:49:13

Like, this dude always shows up. And I thought we were

Steve: 00:49:16

not doing this anymore, Lily. Like, yeah.

Steve: 00:49:19

Like, but also. But here's the thing where, like,

Steve: 00:49:22

this is the side of Bart that I do like

Steve: 00:49:25

that Bart is annoyed, but Bart isn't

Steve: 00:49:28

being an asshole about it, and he's not flipping out.

Leif: 00:49:30

I mean, he's all about decorum.

Steve: 00:49:32

yeah, he just keeps it, and he just, you know,

Steve: 00:49:35

he's just setting it aside and

Steve: 00:49:37

compartmentalizing. And I like that about Bart. I like

Steve: 00:49:40

that he's not an explosive

Steve: 00:49:43

control. Yeah. Bart knows how much power he

Steve: 00:49:46

has.

Leif: 00:49:47

He is Lex Luthor.

Steve: 00:49:48

Yeah, well, he knows that if he wanted to, he could have

Steve: 00:49:51

that guy.

Steve: 00:49:51

Jean-Paul: Fucking well like father, like son in this episode then,

Steve: 00:49:54

if you really think.

Steve: 00:49:55

Yeah. Yeah, very much.

Steve: 00:49:57

Jean-Paul: Because, the way Chuck handled himself in this episode

Steve: 00:50:00

is the same way.

Leif: 00:50:01

And Chuck definitely learned at the foot of his father.

Steve: 00:50:04

Yeah.

Steve: 00:50:04

Jean-Paul: So, yeah, definitely like father likes.

Steve: 00:50:07

But again, that weird handshake

Steve: 00:50:10

that they have, that interaction is just,

Steve: 00:50:13

like, really weird and charming to

Steve: 00:50:15

me. It's almost like,

Steve: 00:50:18

they give themselves, like, right here, and I'm like,

Steve: 00:50:21

is that not how you shake me?

Steve: 00:50:24

Yeah, I'm gonna grab you off.

Steve: 00:50:27

Yeah, they. It was so awkward.

Steve: 00:50:30

I loved it.

Leif: 00:50:31

Well, the act, the actor who plays part actually has kind of long

Leif: 00:50:34

arms.

Leif: 00:50:35

Jean-Paul: Okay.

Steve: 00:50:35

Yeah.

Steve: 00:50:36

Jean-Paul: I mean, I know him from a bunch of b boo, so.

Leif: 00:50:39

Yeah, he's been. Yeah, like, I know he loves the

Leif: 00:50:41

sopranos for an episode.

Leif: 00:50:43

Jean-Paul: Yeah.

Leif: 00:50:43

Pretty funny role. Tony thought he was gay.

Leif: 00:50:46

Jean-Paul: That's right. That's right.

Leif: 00:50:49

Dorota was on a few episodes of Sopranos in the last

Leif: 00:50:52

season. Oh. As a polish

Leif: 00:50:55

maid.

Steve: 00:50:56

That's funny.

Leif: 00:50:57

And she actually. She's actually talked about how, she gotta got

Leif: 00:51:00

typecasted, as a polish maid. And they

Leif: 00:51:02

got. Got the role as gossip girl. Like, they. They, like, saw

Leif: 00:51:05

her out for it.

Leif: 00:51:07

Jean-Paul: And if you also forget, he was,

Leif: 00:51:10

robocop in Robocop three.

Steve: 00:51:12

Yeah.

Leif: 00:51:12

Yeah.

Steve: 00:51:13

Oh, wow. Yeah.

Leif: 00:51:15

Unfortunately. Unfortunately, that movie exists.

Leif: 00:51:17

Jean-Paul: I'm gonna say. Unfortunately, Robocop three.

Leif: 00:51:19

Dad and Nate, say,

Leif: 00:51:24

still after Bob. Robocop three.

Leif: 00:51:26

Jean-Paul: I'm sorry. I didn't mean to sidetrack you.

Leif: 00:51:28

But every time I think of

Leif: 00:51:32

him, m because, again, he's a terrible actor in that

Leif: 00:51:34

movie, and robocop three is

Leif: 00:51:37

terrible.

Leif: 00:51:37

Blair is thanking God for blackmailing evidence, but

Leif: 00:51:40

Serena convinces Blair to save Emma first.

Leif: 00:51:43

Looks like Blair and Chuck are alone and free to team

Leif: 00:51:46

up.

Steve: 00:51:47

And Blair's, like, sitting there taking shots at serena,

Steve: 00:51:50

like. Like usual. Just. And

Steve: 00:51:53

Serena just, like, takes it.

Leif: 00:51:55

Yeah, it's like.

Steve: 00:51:55

Okay. All right.

Leif: 00:51:57

Yeah, she's used to it.

Steve: 00:51:59

Yeah.

Leif: 00:51:59

Dan sees Nate without saying a word, grabs Nate and shoves him up

Leif: 00:52:02

against the wall before demanding answers.

Leif: 00:52:05

Nate plays it totally cool and does his best to

Leif: 00:52:08

de escalate. Dan refrains from physical

Leif: 00:52:11

violence, but still judges. Judges Nate for

Leif: 00:52:14

the capturing thing and tells him to hit the road.

Leif: 00:52:17

Jack. Don't you come back.

Steve: 00:52:19

Yeah. Nate really tried to keep his

Steve: 00:52:22

cool too. Yeah, Nate really every step of the

Steve: 00:52:25

way. Nate had every right to fucking knock him out at one

Steve: 00:52:28

point, but Nate every step of the way was just like,

Steve: 00:52:30

okay, let's bring it down. Okay. The

Steve: 00:52:33

escalation fucking good guy, Nate all the

Steve: 00:52:36

time. And Robin was even like, my

Steve: 00:52:39

wife. Robin was even like, this is

Steve: 00:52:42

Robin's words. Where. This is Dan's ugliest moment. Well,

Steve: 00:52:44

so far, anyway. Thus

Steve: 00:52:47

far. Thus far, this is his

Steve: 00:52:50

ugliest moment.

Steve: 00:52:51

Jean-Paul: I've been my lips right now.

Steve: 00:52:53

Well, because he not only does

Steve: 00:52:56

he. Is he shitty to Nate, he also

Steve: 00:52:59

betrayed Vanessa's trust. Like,

Steve: 00:53:02

Vanessa trusted him with that

Steve: 00:53:05

information. So now Nate has

Steve: 00:53:08

every right to be mad at Vanessa too,

Steve: 00:53:11

for. For that. So, like, Dan fucked both

Steve: 00:53:14

of his friends in one breath.

Leif: 00:53:16

I really blame him for fucking Vanessa.

Steve: 00:53:17

I mean, Vanessa should never have told them in the first

Steve: 00:53:20

place.

Leif: 00:53:21

It's not. I mean, what, once Vanessa tells it and then the secrets,

Leif: 00:53:23

basically, yeah.

Leif: 00:53:24

Jean-Paul: God, I just want to defend Vanessa right now.

Leif: 00:53:27

Go for it. Go for it.

Steve: 00:53:29

Yes, please do.

Steve: 00:53:30

Jean-Paul: I mean, again, in this episode, she,

Steve: 00:53:33

like, this really has nothing to do in

Steve: 00:53:36

this episode, right.

Steve: 00:53:38

Which this show. Yeah. She tends to

Steve: 00:53:41

just not have a.

Steve: 00:53:42

Jean-Paul: Lot, and I know that. And again, I

Steve: 00:53:45

get what her character really is supposed to

Steve: 00:53:48

be, but I just think she's a very adorable

Steve: 00:53:51

character.

Leif: 00:53:52

That she, should be. She

Leif: 00:53:55

should be, but she has no reason to exist.

Leif: 00:53:57

Jean-Paul: She has no reason to exist. But they. They. I guess

Leif: 00:54:00

she, from the way I interpret her

Leif: 00:54:02

character so far to this

Leif: 00:54:05

point in this show, they want

Leif: 00:54:08

her to be the audience. They want you to feel,

Leif: 00:54:10

like, sympathy for somebody against

Leif: 00:54:13

the elite of all of these, like,

Leif: 00:54:16

rich, spoiled kids. She

Leif: 00:54:19

is your down to earth kid as well,

Leif: 00:54:22

because you think Dan was supposed to be that

Leif: 00:54:25

character, but he's not.

Steve: 00:54:27

Well, because he has to be sucked in.

Steve: 00:54:29

Jean-Paul: Yeah, exactly.

Leif: 00:54:30

I think that is what they intended in the first season.

Leif: 00:54:33

But again, like, she just didn't have a reason to be in this world

Leif: 00:54:36

other than she was tagging along with Dan.

Steve: 00:54:38

Right.

Leif: 00:54:38

So she's always. She's always opposing herself. But

Leif: 00:54:41

then we also talked about a few episodes where she kind of took a

Leif: 00:54:44

turn, where out of nowhere, she approached

Leif: 00:54:47

Blair and blackmailed her just to help her with her pride.

Leif: 00:54:49

Jean-Paul: Right. I get that.

Leif: 00:54:51

That was, like, a bit. That was a big change for her character.

Leif: 00:54:53

Jean-Paul: I think so. So basically, she's the scrappy do.

Leif: 00:54:56

Oh, yeah. Oh, I think, like, at this point, the writers realize

Leif: 00:54:59

that the fans hated her, so they're just gonna now lead.

Steve: 00:55:02

Into her and let me more open ass

Steve: 00:55:05

crappy do.

Leif: 00:55:08

Let's see if they. If the fans like her more. Yeah,

Leif: 00:55:11

I have my doubts. And Blair and Truck have

Leif: 00:55:14

tracked down Emma, and they are, convinced the ditch

Leif: 00:55:17

surge, when she gets the blast, Muffy's

Leif: 00:55:20

muff got stuffed and so

Leif: 00:55:22

fucking.

Steve: 00:55:23

Fucking disgusting in the first place

Steve: 00:55:26

because, like, to post that on the. On the

Steve: 00:55:29

Internet about a 1312

Steve: 00:55:32

13 year old middle school kid in the

Steve: 00:55:35

first place is fucking

Steve: 00:55:38

disgusting. Also there. It begs the question,

Steve: 00:55:41

was muffy stuff, or was this just a Chuck

Steve: 00:55:43

scheme that comes out later? Right? they.

Leif: 00:55:45

They tell, them we'll get into that, but yes, that'd be

Leif: 00:55:48

a ski.

Steve: 00:55:49

Okay. Yeah, I thought so.

Steve: 00:55:51

Jean-Paul: I wanted to head because I. So the guy. The guy's

Steve: 00:55:54

real name is Serge, right?

Steve: 00:55:56

Yeah.

Steve: 00:55:56

Jean-Paul: So. So, like, surge from, like, baby hills

Steve: 00:55:59

cop.

Steve: 00:56:00

Yes. Yeah.

Leif: 00:56:02

Perfect strangers again.

Leif: 00:56:04

Jean-Paul: My head works in weird ways. I'll

Leif: 00:56:07

be the first to admit it. I get weird

Leif: 00:56:09

connections. I'm just thinking, holy

Leif: 00:56:12

cow, if there were

Leif: 00:56:15

this weird kind of world. Yeah,

Leif: 00:56:18

I could see surge from Beverly Hills cop coming to New

Leif: 00:56:20

York.

Leif: 00:56:22

Since you brought it up, have you watched the new one yet?

Steve: 00:56:28

I've actually heard really good.

Steve: 00:56:30

Jean-Paul: It's much better than part three because it's not rated pg

Steve: 00:56:32

13.

Leif: 00:56:34

I weirdly like part three because it just hit

Leif: 00:56:36

that weird spot. My childhood, we always had HBO

Leif: 00:56:39

as a kid. Played a million times.

Leif: 00:56:41

Jean-Paul: Of course. Yeah.

Leif: 00:56:42

On HBS. Yeah, that's kind of. I

Leif: 00:56:45

kind of like. I like three better than two.

Leif: 00:56:47

Jean-Paul: Okay.

Leif: 00:56:48

I mean, one's obviously the best, but I like

Leif: 00:56:51

three better than two.

Leif: 00:56:52

Jean-Paul: See, I. I'm a Gen X kid. so

Leif: 00:56:55

I grew up with one and two. Like, even

Leif: 00:56:58

though I was a kid, watching them, not supposed to be watching

Leif: 00:57:00

them. And Kenny loggin soundtrack in part two

Leif: 00:57:03

just. It's so much for me.

Leif: 00:57:05

This one.

Leif: 00:57:06

Jean-Paul: This one. I mean, it's. It's a

Leif: 00:57:09

really, really, really good movie. They should just

Leif: 00:57:12

stop, though, because

Leif: 00:57:15

everybody involved is just a little too

Leif: 00:57:18

old, you know?

Steve: 00:57:19

Yeah.

Steve: 00:57:19

Jean-Paul: Eddie Murphy is definitely not doing a lot of

Steve: 00:57:22

stunts in this movie.

Steve: 00:57:25

It's entertaining, you know,

Steve: 00:57:27

and.

Leif: 00:57:28

And I will check it out.

Leif: 00:57:29

Jean-Paul: It's streaming, so it was the smartest thing that.

Leif: 00:57:32

Exactly. They. They decided to. We're not

Leif: 00:57:35

going to play with the box office. We're just going to throw it out swimming.

Leif: 00:57:38

So.

Steve: 00:57:38

Yeah, yeah.

Steve: 00:57:39

Jean-Paul: There's my quick back.

Steve: 00:57:42

The gossip girl. again, even though

Steve: 00:57:45

surge is a homosexual, I

Steve: 00:57:48

could see him in this world, too, just messing with

Steve: 00:57:51

these kids.

Steve: 00:57:55

So, yeah, there's my.

Leif: 00:57:57

I just want to know what he was doing with that tulip.

Leif: 00:57:59

Jean-Paul: Yeah.

Leif: 00:58:03

Serena calls Aaron to give him yet another

Leif: 00:58:06

chance when yet another woman answers his

Leif: 00:58:09

phone. I mean, come on.

Steve: 00:58:11

After he changes his voicemail, m. Or answer. it

Steve: 00:58:14

must be his answering it is an answer.

Leif: 00:58:16

Yeah, it is, but that's.

Leif: 00:58:17

Jean-Paul: That's also what gets me. Okay, so there's another girl

Leif: 00:58:20

there, right? And the answering machine kicks

Leif: 00:58:23

on again. I said, I'm sure that girl.

Leif: 00:58:26

I grew up with answering machines. You hear a message

Leif: 00:58:29

play. So that goes there.

Steve: 00:58:31

Listening to that message go for someone

Steve: 00:58:33

else. Right?

Steve: 00:58:34

Jean-Paul: For someone else. That girl's okay with it,

Steve: 00:58:37

too, and it answers.

Steve: 00:58:39

Yeah.

Steve: 00:58:39

Jean-Paul: Who is this? Can I leave a,

Steve: 00:58:42

message? I mean, what kind of girl's low

Steve: 00:58:45

self esteem? I don't know.

Steve: 00:58:48

I just say that just really low self

Steve: 00:58:50

esteem. Does you want to be with this.

Leif: 00:58:53

Low self esteem and daddy issues?

Steve: 00:58:54

Yeah.

Steve: 00:58:55

Jean-Paul: Yeah. With that issues indeed.

Steve: 00:58:57

Or just full on polyamorous, just like,

Steve: 00:59:00

the flip side of it.

Steve: 00:59:01

Jean-Paul: Sure.

Steve: 00:59:02

Hey.

Leif: 00:59:02

Yeah, serena is just the odd one out.

Steve: 00:59:05

Yeah. She just hasn't been invited into the. Into

Steve: 00:59:08

our group yet.

Steve: 00:59:09

Jean-Paul: There you go.

Steve: 00:59:10

I mean, Serena leader does say, is it going to be the whole

Steve: 00:59:13

harem?

Leif: 00:59:16

It's moments before showtime when nate lets

Leif: 00:59:19

Jenny know her family is here. Looking for

Leif: 00:59:21

jenny begs Nate to stay.

Steve: 00:59:24

It was cute.

Leif: 00:59:25

I definitely like jetty and Nate together again.

Steve: 00:59:27

Yeah.

Steve: 00:59:28

Jean-Paul: Yeah. It was very cute. Nate still kind

Steve: 00:59:31

of, you know, trying to redeem himself as a good guy

Steve: 00:59:34

in this episode.

Steve: 00:59:35

I really. And throughout this

Steve: 00:59:38

podcast, I have championed nate, where

Steve: 00:59:40

nate has done some. I mean, even when he

Steve: 00:59:43

was, you know, sleeping with someone

Steve: 00:59:46

for money, he was doing it not in a vacuum.

Leif: 00:59:49

And also, he was a victim.

Steve: 00:59:51

He was a. Yeah, he was a victim. And it was.

Steve: 00:59:54

And it was, like, out of

Steve: 00:59:56

desperation, and he was victimized. And.

Steve: 00:59:59

And, like. And that's.

Leif: 01:00:02

That's scene when he's in the limo, driving away, just looking out the

Leif: 01:00:05

window. So sad.

Leif: 01:00:06

Jean-Paul: So. So you're saying. Yeah, you're not creatively Nate

Leif: 01:00:09

to that puppy dog with the puppy dog

Leif: 01:00:12

eyes, saying, I'm a

Leif: 01:00:15

poppy.

Steve: 01:00:16

I mean, that's how I feel about him a lot because he is like

Steve: 01:00:19

a golden retriever. It's.

Steve: 01:00:21

Jean-Paul: It's okay, Nate. You a dumb dog, but we still

Steve: 01:00:24

love you. And, like.

Steve: 01:00:26

And pretty much, he's a dumb dog. And, like,

Steve: 01:00:29

if you put something in front of him, if you put the right

Steve: 01:00:32

leg in front of him, he's gonna hunt. Like,

Steve: 01:00:35

and.

Leif: 01:00:35

And those legs just happen, like shiny,

Leif: 01:00:38

blonde things.

Leif: 01:00:39

Jean-Paul: Yeah. Yeah. Shiny blonde things is true.

Steve: 01:00:43

But but he also, like. But he never

Steve: 01:00:46

mistreats the people

Steve: 01:00:48

that he. That he. You know, you're right.

Leif: 01:00:51

He's kind of absent minded. Yeah.

Steve: 01:00:54

Yeah, exactly. You know, the only person he really

Steve: 01:00:57

has mistreated at all was Blair, by

Steve: 01:01:00

cheating on her before the show started, and

Steve: 01:01:03

how he treated her in the first several

Steve: 01:01:05

episodes.

Steve: 01:01:06

Jean-Paul: But that's because he didn't know.

Steve: 01:01:09

Yeah.

Leif: 01:01:09

And he was also getting pretty, basically, he wanted to break up more. There was.

Leif: 01:01:12

His parents were basically forcing him to date her. Yeah.

Steve: 01:01:15

He, like, another very sympathetic

Steve: 01:01:18

side to him. Like, to me, has always been a

Steve: 01:01:21

sympathetic character.

Leif: 01:01:23

Lily and Barr are, ah, presented with an award when we see

Leif: 01:01:26

Lily smile and wink to someone in the crowd,

Leif: 01:01:28

presumably Rufus. But maybe some.

Steve: 01:01:31

I would hope not. I would hope maybe anyone

Steve: 01:01:34

else.

Leif: 01:01:36

But, I mean, it shows, like,

Leif: 01:01:39

it's a kind of rufus, like, looking around the audience. They

Leif: 01:01:41

immediately cut to lily, and she winks.

Steve: 01:01:44

Yeah.

Leif: 01:01:44

At the camera. It's like,

Leif: 01:01:46

okay. so, obviously there's still feelings there.

Leif: 01:01:49

Jean-Paul: Obviously.

Steve: 01:01:50

Obviously.

Leif: 01:01:52

I don't think this marriage departs that long from this world.

Steve: 01:01:54

Well, I mean, I think it's more like, I don't think this

Steve: 01:01:57

marriage to Lily.

Steve: 01:02:00

Marriage to Lily is long for this world.

Leif: 01:02:03

Fair enough. The lights go out and

Leif: 01:02:06

the.

Leif: 01:02:06

Jean-Paul: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Leif: 01:02:07

Cover of Sheena is a punk rocker plays over the

Leif: 01:02:09

PA speakers. A video montage of

Leif: 01:02:12

Agnes and her model friends wearing Jenny's designs play

Leif: 01:02:15

on the monitors. Then the models themselves burst

Leif: 01:02:18

into a darkened room carrying flashlights and dancing

Leif: 01:02:21

on the tables, even smashing a glass or

Leif: 01:02:24

two. I, love the scene.

Steve: 01:02:26

Yeah. Jenny did an amazing job on this event.

Steve: 01:02:28

Yeah.

Leif: 01:02:29

First of all, I love the song. It's a great song. But, yeah,

Leif: 01:02:32

the whole setup was, you know, the lights just go

Leif: 01:02:35

out and everyone's like, what's going on? Yeah,

Leif: 01:02:37

headed up great.

Steve: 01:02:39

Like, classic Ramon song that you then, like, have

Steve: 01:02:42

with the. With the women

Steve: 01:02:44

vocalist for. From the aas. Like,

Steve: 01:02:47

yeah, I. And, yeah, I really loved.

Steve: 01:02:50

I think Jenny just fucking nailed it, and I

Steve: 01:02:53

loved it.

Leif: 01:02:54

And then at the end of it all, Jenny, in celebration,

Leif: 01:02:57

embraces and kisses Nate in view of

Leif: 01:02:59

everyone, including Vanessa. Jenny is

Leif: 01:03:02

immediately guilt rin and chases after

Leif: 01:03:05

v. So.

Steve: 01:03:06

Yeah, yeah. And fucking

Steve: 01:03:09

Vanessa. Maybe if he didn't suck. Vanessa is my

Steve: 01:03:12

note.

Steve: 01:03:14

Jean-Paul: Vanessa.

Steve: 01:03:15

Maybe if he didn't suck so bad, like, if he didn't, like, hate

Steve: 01:03:18

on Nate for the fucking tough decision and

Steve: 01:03:20

victimization that he went through and, like.

Leif: 01:03:23

Well, she does. I mean, she. If you

Leif: 01:03:26

remember, they clearly dumped

Leif: 01:03:29

her.

Steve: 01:03:29

Yeah, yeah.

Leif: 01:03:30

At the. Their last interaction, she. And then she.

Leif: 01:03:33

But she's still hung up on him. So I'll say. Yeah.

Leif: 01:03:36

Jean-Paul: The middle part of this episode, they did basically say, I

Leif: 01:03:39

mean, she is still hung up. Yeah, yeah.

Leif: 01:03:41

So I m think it's implied by from the

Leif: 01:03:43

scene that her and Jenny have talked about.

Leif: 01:03:46

Actually talked about it.

Steve: 01:03:48

Yeah, I would get that, too.

Leif: 01:03:50

I would.

Steve: 01:03:50

I think that's a good read.

Leif: 01:03:52

Looks like it's froze before hoes for little

Leif: 01:03:55

J, who know when her loyalty kicked in, Nate

Leif: 01:03:58

would be kicked out.

Leif: 01:04:00

Gossip girls little scene, over there.

Leif: 01:04:04

Dan and Rufus are still trying to track down

Leif: 01:04:07

Jenny, so they're still just running around.

Steve: 01:04:09

Yeah, I got nothing.

Leif: 01:04:11

Yeah, Blair is doing some mentoring with Emma

Leif: 01:04:14

once Emma steps out of the limo. Blair. Thanks, Chuck,

Leif: 01:04:17

for getting a gossip girl to put out a

Leif: 01:04:20

fake blast. This power shuck has, I

Leif: 01:04:23

doubt it's one you learn from a jedi.

Leif: 01:04:27

How did Chuck, get Gossip Girl to put out a fake

Leif: 01:04:30

blast?

Steve: 01:04:30

Yeah, and, I mean, there's the obvious

Steve: 01:04:33

answer, but then there's also the idea

Steve: 01:04:36

that this isn't the first time Chuck has gotten

Steve: 01:04:39

gossip girl to put out a blast.

Leif: 01:04:41

Yeah.

Leif: 01:04:42

Jean-Paul: What's the obvious answer?

Steve: 01:04:43

the obvious answer to me would be Chuck being

Steve: 01:04:46

gossip, which was what I called in episode one.

Steve: 01:04:49

But I also have kind of backed off on any kind of

Steve: 01:04:52

speculation on that. Only because I

Steve: 01:04:55

know that on a meta level, I know that

Steve: 01:04:58

they didn't really know who Gossip girl was going to be

Steve: 01:05:01

until toward the end that they had an

Steve: 01:05:04

idea, and then they started changing it, and then they had a

Steve: 01:05:07

few people in mind. So I. That's a piece of

Steve: 01:05:10

meta knowledge that I got.

Steve: 01:05:11

Jean-Paul: Okay, again, since I didn't watch this when

Steve: 01:05:14

it was actually so I don't know who Gossip Girl is,

Steve: 01:05:18

and again, I'm not going to tell you because I didn't. I did not watch

Steve: 01:05:21

this show. Went on. And

Steve: 01:05:23

while watching it, you know, with my

Steve: 01:05:26

wife, I kept going, is it going to be this? Is it

Steve: 01:05:29

this? I went through the gambit.

Steve: 01:05:32

Yeah, m and I started that, you.

Steve: 01:05:34

Jean-Paul: Know, because from day one, I was like, I

Steve: 01:05:37

want to figure this out. And. But then. But then,

Steve: 01:05:40

now that you tell me that, it reminds me of

Steve: 01:05:43

the whole, what I call the middle

Steve: 01:05:46

finger of the creators of lost did

Steve: 01:05:48

to the public.

Steve: 01:05:51

It's not purgatory. It's not purgatory.

Steve: 01:05:54

Oh, wait, it is purgatory.

Steve: 01:05:57

Yeah, to anybody who doesn't, never.

Steve: 01:05:59

Watch lost after episode one, when

Steve: 01:06:02

everybody came out and said, oh, they're all dead. No, they're

Steve: 01:06:05

not dead. What? That's ridiculous.

Steve: 01:06:08

And then as soon as the reveal got you,

Steve: 01:06:11

it's like, no, you didn't. You lied to us.

Steve: 01:06:13

Yeah.

Steve: 01:06:14

Jean-Paul: Yeah. when you say lie, that's

Steve: 01:06:17

personally what made me mad about the show because.

Steve: 01:06:20

Yeah, same.

Steve: 01:06:21

Jean-Paul: I had art like, I had altered

Steve: 01:06:23

patient, arguments at work with

Steve: 01:06:26

co workers, one being randy, who, you know,

Steve: 01:06:29

from last roundup.

Leif: 01:06:30

Horror.

Steve: 01:06:30

Yeah, yeah.

Steve: 01:06:31

Jean-Paul: because that's actually where I met him at this job. And

Steve: 01:06:34

we would talk about the show loss, you know, every week. And

Steve: 01:06:37

I go, they're dead. This is clearly their

Steve: 01:06:40

employ. He's like, there is no way.

Steve: 01:06:43

You know? And he's like, ah. He's like, look, man,

Steve: 01:06:46

he would show me, like, the. He would show me, like,

Steve: 01:06:50

Entertainment Weekly magazine articles. And I'm

Steve: 01:06:52

like, look, they're lying to us. They're just lying to

Steve: 01:06:55

us. And then finally when it ended, you know,

Steve: 01:06:58

then finally the advent of, you know, our cell phones, we start

Steve: 01:07:01

texting each other. I. We were working at

Steve: 01:07:04

different jobs. We both watched it. And I just texted him. I

Steve: 01:07:07

go, I told you.

Steve: 01:07:08

Yeah, yeah.

Leif: 01:07:09

Ah.

Leif: 01:07:10

Jean-Paul: And all I got was, fuck you.

Leif: 01:07:18

Yeah.

Leif: 01:07:19

Jean-Paul: So I. Again, I'm glad to

Leif: 01:07:21

hear that they had an idea, but not

Leif: 01:07:24

really, like, because I don't want another middle

Leif: 01:07:27

finger. Like, yeah.

Leif: 01:07:30

So if you. If you're curious about the lore, at the beginning, they

Leif: 01:07:33

were planning on it to be Eric.

Leif: 01:07:35

Jean-Paul: Okay, interesting.

Leif: 01:07:37

Everyone. Everyone figured it out. There's even, like, a

Leif: 01:07:40

big New York Post article that was Eric. So

Leif: 01:07:43

they. At that point, they just kind of, like, scrapped it.

Steve: 01:07:45

And they were.

Leif: 01:07:47

Yeah, they were leaning towards a couple different people. And there's a couple

Leif: 01:07:49

things pointing to it. And then I

Leif: 01:07:52

feel at the earliest they decide, they decided was

Leif: 01:07:55

the very end of season five.

Leif: 01:07:57

Jean-Paul: Okay.

Leif: 01:07:58

Like, probably when they were writing the season five finale

Leif: 01:08:01

is when they decided, all right, that.

Steve: 01:08:03

Yeah. And now the other reason

Steve: 01:08:06

that I would say that Chuck could get that blast out

Steve: 01:08:09

is that Chuck, I believe,

Steve: 01:08:12

would be a credible source

Steve: 01:08:15

to gossip Girl. That if Gossip Girl saw something

Steve: 01:08:18

from Chuck, that she would say, okay, that seems

Steve: 01:08:20

legit, I'll blast it.

Leif: 01:08:22

Because, like, Claire seemed depressed that he got it.

Steve: 01:08:25

Yeah. But that's also kind of weird because they

Steve: 01:08:28

all have gotten stuff posted on

Steve: 01:08:30

Gossip Girl at one point or another. Like, Dan has

Steve: 01:08:33

had something posted on Gossip Girl.

Steve: 01:08:35

Jean-Paul: See, the old reason why. Why I think Chuck's got the

Steve: 01:08:38

quote unquote read to do that.

Steve: 01:08:41

Seth already has pool

Steve: 01:08:44

within this world,

Steve: 01:08:47

so anything.

Steve: 01:08:48

Yeah.

Steve: 01:08:48

Jean-Paul: Like, that came from Chuck,

Steve: 01:08:51

you know, because he's already a popular figure

Steve: 01:08:54

in this world, and m people know who

Steve: 01:08:57

he is. Gossip girl would be like, yeah,

Steve: 01:09:00

I'm gonna go ahead and do it because eventually that seems gonna

Steve: 01:09:03

be clicks for Gossip girl. Right, right.

Steve: 01:09:06

So that's why I think Chuck's got the

Steve: 01:09:08

clout to do that.

Steve: 01:09:10

Yeah.

Steve: 01:09:11

Jean-Paul: Even if he may not know or if he doesn't know

Steve: 01:09:14

that he has that clout.

Steve: 01:09:16

Yeah.

Leif: 01:09:17

Blair does some mentoring with Emma in a

Leif: 01:09:20

roundabout way. Admits that she loves, or at

Leif: 01:09:23

least loved. Check.

Steve: 01:09:25

Is this where she refers to muffy as the lacrosse?

Leif: 01:09:28

Yes.

Steve: 01:09:30

Blair had some, some great lines in it. That was

Steve: 01:09:33

one of them.

Steve: 01:09:34

the other thing she said to Emma was, stop making

Steve: 01:09:37

sounds with your mouth. I think.

Steve: 01:09:40

Stop making sounds with your mouth.

Leif: 01:09:42

Dan finally gets the bad news he was expecting from

Leif: 01:09:45

Jordan, the ta at Yale. Serena is there to

Leif: 01:09:48

comfort him. Dan seems to be

Leif: 01:09:50

regretting taking the moral high ground rather

Leif: 01:09:53

than selvishly using the people he knows for his

Leif: 01:09:56

writing.

Steve: 01:09:56

I did like having a nice Dan

Steve: 01:09:59

Serena moment. I know it's setting up episode

Steve: 01:10:02

ten, which is going to be a Dan Serena

Steve: 01:10:05

episode, so I do like

Steve: 01:10:08

that moment. But my note here is Dan decides to

Steve: 01:10:11

be a bigger asshole.

Steve: 01:10:12

Jean-Paul: I did not agree with you on that one.

Steve: 01:10:15

Yeah. Yeah. Like, you just see him in real time.

Steve: 01:10:17

Be like, I was only a shittier person.

Steve: 01:10:20

I might be able to achieve stuff.

Leif: 01:10:23

Well, I mean, I. I mean, they've shown him going back and forth

Leif: 01:10:25

on writing this story. Yeah.

Steve: 01:10:27

Ah.

Leif: 01:10:27

For several episodes.

Steve: 01:10:28

Yeah.

Leif: 01:10:29

Like, at least three. Clearly, like, the people have

Leif: 01:10:31

told him. Yeah. Yeah. Write this story, and you can get it to yell.

Steve: 01:10:34

Yeah.

Leif: 01:10:35

So I understand where he's coming from. He's. Yeah, but like,

Leif: 01:10:38

that, he's finally now, like, he sees jetty getting what she

Leif: 01:10:40

wants. Bye.

Steve: 01:10:41

But taking it.

Leif: 01:10:42

Yeah. By taking it. So he's like, okay, I'm gonna do that,

Leif: 01:10:45

too.

Steve: 01:10:45

Yeah.

Leif: 01:10:46

Which, definitely, like, kind of go to the dark side, but.

Steve: 01:10:49

Yeah. And what's funny is that Jenny did that, but

Steve: 01:10:52

Jenny also didn't hurt anyone. You know, like,

Steve: 01:10:55

whereas he's like, she caught.

Steve: 01:10:57

Jean-Paul: I was really property damage, you know?

Steve: 01:10:59

that's true.

Steve: 01:11:00

Jean-Paul: The.

Steve: 01:11:00

They didn't have to break those.

Leif: 01:11:02

The event itself, it did interrupt

Leif: 01:11:05

like, everyone did. Ended up enjoying it. But, I mean,

Leif: 01:11:07

Washington. Yeah. Rude thing to do, practically.

Leif: 01:11:10

Blair brings Emma home only to find misses Borbund

Leif: 01:11:13

is already waiting for them. Blair is about to blackmail

Leif: 01:11:16

misses Borman, potentially blowing up their family,

Leif: 01:11:19

when Blair decides to spare Emma added pain because

Leif: 01:11:22

she clearly sees a lot of herself in Emma.

Steve: 01:11:24

Blair was so good. Like, Leighton.

Steve: 01:11:27

Leighton Meester was so

Steve: 01:11:30

good in this scene. Yeah. Like, just the

Steve: 01:11:33

facial expressions and, like,

Steve: 01:11:35

that blank look at the end when she just

Steve: 01:11:38

loses the fight. When the fight goes out

Steve: 01:11:41

of her, and you just see her

Steve: 01:11:44

portray that so masterfully. Fucking

Steve: 01:11:47

love watching her work Jenny is.

Leif: 01:11:49

Looking for Vanessa when Rufus finally tracks her

Leif: 01:11:52

down. Rufus is furious and demands that

Leif: 01:11:54

Jenny apologize to Lily. Lily

Leif: 01:11:57

accidentally unnervings Rufus when she lets Jenny

Leif: 01:12:00

know that there is no need to apologize because she loved the guerrilla

Leif: 01:12:02

fashion show. Rufus, off his rocker,

Leif: 01:12:05

tries to get Jenny arrested. Luckily, Lily

Leif: 01:12:08

steps in to defuse the situation.

Steve: 01:12:11

Rufus is Rufus such an

Steve: 01:12:13

asshole. Like,

Steve: 01:12:16

before.

Steve: 01:12:16

Jean-Paul: Before I'm gonna defend him in this. This

Steve: 01:12:19

thing, only. Only because he's being

Steve: 01:12:22

a father. And he's, like,

Steve: 01:12:25

also trying to cover his own ass because his 50 year

Steve: 01:12:27

old daughter just messed up a

Steve: 01:12:30

gala event in New York. He doesn't know if he

Steve: 01:12:33

could get fine. If the fact that his daughter is going

Steve: 01:12:36

to end up going to jail, he's going to have to deal with

Steve: 01:12:39

that kind of that. I mean, this is the only time

Steve: 01:12:42

I felt in this episode that Rufus actually acted

Steve: 01:12:45

fairly well.

Leif: 01:12:46

But he knew his Lily's event already.

Leif: 01:12:49

And Lily just came over and said, like, the reason why he went

Leif: 01:12:52

up to the cop is Lily wasn't going to do anything.

Leif: 01:12:54

Jean-Paul: Lilly, Lily does the. I dream of Jeannie, you

Leif: 01:12:56

just. I'm, here.

Leif: 01:12:59

Well, but.

Steve: 01:13:00

But Lily to be like, you know, I don't. I'm not

Steve: 01:13:03

mad about this. And for him to then be like, well, fine,

Steve: 01:13:06

I'll show her. I'm gonna have a cop arrest my kid

Steve: 01:13:09

because I'm mad still. Yeah, like,

Steve: 01:13:12

that's the shitty parent.

Leif: 01:13:13

Yeah, I mean, or whatever.

Leif: 01:13:16

But.

Leif: 01:13:17

Jean-Paul: But he was also trying to,

Leif: 01:13:19

like, I mentioned before, a lot of people in this

Leif: 01:13:22

episode, it's everybody covering their own

Leif: 01:13:25

asses and everybody tied it being their

Leif: 01:13:28

own selfish kind of way.

Steve: 01:13:29

Well, and I really. What I think my big

Steve: 01:13:32

problem with Rufus in general, and we touched on

Steve: 01:13:35

this earlier, the. The difference between how he treats

Steve: 01:13:38

Dan and Jenny. And I really think the

Steve: 01:13:41

biggest thing with Rufus is Rufus is

Steve: 01:13:44

jealous that he had this

Steve: 01:13:46

career that didn't take off.

Steve: 01:13:49

Jean-Paul: Yes.

Steve: 01:13:49

He had this rock star career that

Steve: 01:13:52

fizzled because he

Steve: 01:13:55

wasn't good enough to make

Steve: 01:13:58

it any bigger than he made it. He was

Steve: 01:14:00

number nine on the ten most forgotten bands of the

Steve: 01:14:03

nineties, and that's where he landed. And

Steve: 01:14:06

so he doesn't want to see his kids

Steve: 01:14:09

go down in flames, but he won't let them take

Steve: 01:14:12

the risks that they are ready

Steve: 01:14:15

to make. Like, what?

Leif: 01:14:17

I think you're kind of getting on the right track there. But

Leif: 01:14:20

he didn't necessarily go down in flames. Both

Leif: 01:14:23

times he came home because he wanted to be with his kids.

Leif: 01:14:26

So does he secretly blame them and how

Leif: 01:14:29

it's like, oh, they. They can have it, but I can't.

Leif: 01:14:31

Jean-Paul: That's a good point.

Steve: 01:14:33

That's a really good point.

Steve: 01:14:34

Jean-Paul: Is a great point.

Leif: 01:14:35

That is just said both times that he didn't flame

Leif: 01:14:38

out. He came home because he wanted to be with his kids.

Leif: 01:14:41

We just saw just earlier this season, they wanted him back on.

Steve: 01:14:44

Yeah. Yeah.

Leif: 01:14:45

He's gonna do a big college stadium tour.

Steve: 01:14:47

Yeah. And. And you're right. He's.

Steve: 01:14:49

That. That is such a great insight that he.

Steve: 01:14:52

That. Yeah, fuck him.

Steve: 01:14:55

I'm so mad at him in this fucking

Steve: 01:14:58

episode.

Leif: 01:14:58

Yeah, fuck him again.

Leif: 01:15:01

Jean-Paul: Did not need to be in this episode again.

Leif: 01:15:04

Like, I. Joppa, I agree with you. Like, this could. He

Leif: 01:15:07

could have.

Steve: 01:15:07

This is.

Leif: 01:15:08

You know, he's in with his right to parent Jenny, Harri and

Leif: 01:15:11

Punisher. But they'll call the fucking.

Leif: 01:15:13

Jean-Paul: Oh, I mean, again, hovering his own

Leif: 01:15:16

ass. Because think about it. Let the cops sort it out, and I won't

Leif: 01:15:19

have to deal with it.

Steve: 01:15:20

Yeah.

Leif: 01:15:20

yeah, that's. That's being a lazy.

Steve: 01:15:22

Yeah, it's really lazy.

Steve: 01:15:24

Jean-Paul: Never said he was parent of the year. What?

Steve: 01:15:27

My dad used to do shit like that. Like, threatened to,

Steve: 01:15:30

like, well, if you ever did this, I would call the police on you. Like,

Steve: 01:15:33

like, my dad would do pull that kind of shit. And it

Steve: 01:15:35

was when I was an adult that I was like, what? Lazy

Steve: 01:15:38

parenting to call the police on your kidde.

Steve: 01:15:41

Like, you can't handle them, so you're gonna hand them over to the

Steve: 01:15:44

cops.

Leif: 01:15:46

Poor Jenny. All that glamour almost

Leif: 01:15:49

led to the slammer. But what will the morning

Leif: 01:15:52

bring? We move

Leif: 01:15:55

into the epilogue. Chuck finds

Leif: 01:15:58

Nate once again squatting at his empty

Leif: 01:16:00

childhood home. Chuck tries to get Nate to

Leif: 01:16:03

come stay with him. However, whether it's his

Leif: 01:16:06

pride, anger towards Chuck, or a combination,

Leif: 01:16:09

Nate refuses the offer to instead go back to the

Leif: 01:16:12

Hamptons where his mom is staying, which.

Steve: 01:16:14

Sucks, which means that we're gonna have another stretch of no

Steve: 01:16:17

Nate shows. Like fuck. like,

Steve: 01:16:20

Nate's. Nate is also. Nate and Jenny are my favorite

Steve: 01:16:23

characters, so I love when Nate's on.

Steve: 01:16:26

And now it seems like both of them

Steve: 01:16:29

are gonna be out for at least a little bit, I would

Steve: 01:16:31

think. I don't know. Maybe not jenny.

Leif: 01:16:34

I feel like jenny's storyline is just starting.

Steve: 01:16:36

Yeah. But I guess in my mind, the

Steve: 01:16:39

good storytelling would not have her

Steve: 01:16:42

in the next episode at all

Steve: 01:16:44

because that gives Rufus reason to be

Steve: 01:16:47

really fucking freaking out. But

Steve: 01:16:50

I didn't write it, obviously.

Leif: 01:16:53

Serena wakes, but I was.

Steve: 01:16:54

But I have taught writing.

Leif: 01:16:57

Serena wakes Blair with some encouraging words.

Leif: 01:17:00

Serena asks to leave when she gets a visitor, and

Leif: 01:17:03

Blair has a call from the dean.

Steve: 01:17:05

My note from this, I need to point out that my sister

Steve: 01:17:08

in law Allison would probably take

Steve: 01:17:11

high offense to. Princeton is a

Steve: 01:17:14

trade school.

Steve: 01:17:18

When Serena said that she could possibly go to

Steve: 01:17:21

Princeton. Princeton is a trade school. There

Steve: 01:17:24

is only Yale.

Leif: 01:17:26

Aaron has come over to ask Serena to get breakfast with

Leif: 01:17:29

him. Serena first shuts him down, but

Leif: 01:17:32

somehow Aaron manages to convince her to go to dinner

Leif: 01:17:34

instead. Why, Serena? Why?

Steve: 01:17:36

Yeah, like, he's sweet, but doesn't seem

Steve: 01:17:39

very honest, and. And there's the whole, like.

Steve: 01:17:42

And what about this other girl? Well, I could explain that

Steve: 01:17:45

to you, but do you just want to go out to dinner or not?

Steve: 01:17:49

Like, how about you

Steve: 01:17:52

give me that explanation first? Like, why does she

Steve: 01:17:54

not want that explanation first? Like,

Steve: 01:17:57

because.

Steve: 01:17:58

Jean-Paul: Does this smell like chloroform?

Steve: 01:18:04

Yeah, he's,

Steve: 01:18:04

Jean-Paul: He's got something.

Steve: 01:18:06

Like, he's striking me the wrong

Steve: 01:18:08

way.

Leif: 01:18:09

He's rich. Stop. Let's not forget that that is true.

Leif: 01:18:12

Jean-Paul: And licorice.

Leif: 01:18:13

I mean, yeah, he keeps stale licorice

Leif: 01:18:16

around his house.

Steve: 01:18:17

He does keep stale licorice for up to

Steve: 01:18:20

or. Or at least nine years.

Steve: 01:18:23

Jean-Paul: Yeah.

Steve: 01:18:23

Who knows when he started?

Leif: 01:18:24

She has.

Leif: 01:18:29

As Aaron leaves Blair, Blair runs

Leif: 01:18:31

in, excitedly tells Serena that Emma talked her up to the dean,

Leif: 01:18:35

and it looks like Blair will get into Yale after all.

Steve: 01:18:37

good job, Blair.

Leif: 01:18:38

Yay for Blair.

Steve: 01:18:39

Yay for Blair. I'm happy for her.

Leif: 01:18:41

In Brooklyn, Dan and miss the jenny's success has

Leif: 01:18:44

convinced him to turn in the story about Chuck

Leif: 01:18:47

bass or Charlie Trouthenne. Rufus shows everyone

Leif: 01:18:50

where Dan gets his judgmental side.

Leif: 01:18:52

Oh, by the way, jenny has moved out.

Steve: 01:18:55

Yeah. Rufus can't handle being

Steve: 01:18:57

a no hit wonder.

Steve: 01:19:00

Jean-Paul: Wow.

Steve: 01:19:03

Yeah.

Leif: 01:19:03

Yeah. Super. Yeah, you can definitely see where Dan gets

Leif: 01:19:06

it.

Steve: 01:19:06

Yeah. Yeah.

Leif: 01:19:08

And of course, the father of the year. Once again, he doesn't even

Leif: 01:19:10

notice his daughter moved out.

Steve: 01:19:12

Yeah. Yeah, you might be a little late for that.

Leif: 01:19:14

Daddy clearly noticed.

Leif: 01:19:16

Yeah, he didn't say, and he didn't. Yeah, Rufus.

Steve: 01:19:19

Like, yeah, Jenny left early this morning.

Leif: 01:19:22

And he didn't tattle.

Steve: 01:19:23

Yeah.

Leif: 01:19:24

He didn't just let her go.

Leif: 01:19:26

No. New tale to tell by love and

Leif: 01:19:29

rockets plays over an episode closing

Leif: 01:19:31

montage. Rita and Blair are laying in bed

Leif: 01:19:34

looking over the Yale course catalog. Nate is sending a

Leif: 01:19:37

letter to Jenny. Dan is sending a story to Noah

Leif: 01:19:40

Shapiro. Rufus is on the verge of tears, looking

Leif: 01:19:43

around at Genti's any room, and Jenny

Leif: 01:19:46

is dragging her bags down the street.

Leif: 01:19:48

SMB are headed to Yale. Nate's headed out of town,

Leif: 01:19:51

and Dan's headed for trouble.

Leif: 01:19:54

As for little J, she's nowhere to be

Leif: 01:19:57

seen. That's the episode.

Steve: 01:19:59

Yeah. Yeah.

Leif: 01:20:00

I really like the blair at Sarita. That was very cute.

Steve: 01:20:03

yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Leif: 01:20:06

And, you know, we already kind of thought they had

Leif: 01:20:09

dad. We see a dad mailing the story, so he's

Leif: 01:20:12

definitely in now.

Steve: 01:20:13

Yeah.

Leif: 01:20:14

Dark dance here. And, ah, Jenny is, homeless.

Steve: 01:20:16

Yeah.

Steve: 01:20:17

Jean-Paul: I mean, is she homeless or is she gonna just go live with a friend?

Steve: 01:20:20

Jean-Paul: She's a runner.

Steve: 01:20:23

Jean-Paul: I mean, she's got all those. Those, phone calls to recur pro.

Steve: 01:20:26

Yeah. From all those people? Somewhat.

Steve: 01:20:28

Yeah.

Leif: 01:20:28

Yeah.

Leif: 01:20:29

Jean-Paul: Someone will give her some money.

Leif: 01:20:31

Steve, any predictions for next week?

Steve: 01:20:33

Well, no. Nate is my first

Steve: 01:20:35

prediction for. So I do know that there will be a

Steve: 01:20:38

Dan Serena interaction. I know that they're

Steve: 01:20:41

going to have an episode. I'm assuming that it's going

Steve: 01:20:44

to have something to do with Eren. I'm hoping that we're

Steve: 01:20:47

wrapping that up soon. And, yeah,

Steve: 01:20:50

other than that, I don't really have much of a prediction. I

Steve: 01:20:53

just.

Leif: 01:20:53

Any ideas where Jenny goes from here?

Steve: 01:20:55

Well, I'm thinking that Jenny is going

Steve: 01:20:58

to. I do believe she's going to start making some

Steve: 01:21:01

of those contacts that are reaching out for her,

Steve: 01:21:04

maybe even Lily. I could see her turning to

Steve: 01:21:06

Lily because Lily's cooler than

Steve: 01:21:09

rufus. I honestly would.

Steve: 01:21:12

Until we were talking earlier, I kind of wrote her off for an

Steve: 01:21:15

episode or two because I kind of figured that they

Steve: 01:21:17

would give a little bit of that. She's

Steve: 01:21:20

missing. Where is she? Before really

Steve: 01:21:23

taking her further.

Leif: 01:21:25

So let's go ahead and move into some

Leif: 01:21:27

segments. I'm going to be perfectly honest and admit

Leif: 01:21:30

that I totally forgot to woke up this week in fan. So we're

Leif: 01:21:33

just going to skip ahead to episode grades.

Steve: 01:21:36

We lied in the intro. We brought you

Steve: 01:21:39

all the way here, and then we lie. we pulled a

Steve: 01:21:42

lost on you.

Leif: 01:21:43

No phantom news this week, and my memory is

Leif: 01:21:46

not quite clear what happened. people were

Leif: 01:21:49

probably pissed off at Rufus. They're probably pissed off at

Leif: 01:21:51

Vanessa, probably mad at Dan. Yeah, they're probably mad at

Leif: 01:21:54

Dan. They're probably happy that Larry, that she loved

Leif: 01:21:57

Chuck, but frustrated, they can't love it, admit it to each other.

Steve: 01:22:00

Still, there'd probably be some mixed

Steve: 01:22:03

Jenny love and hate on the fashion show.

Leif: 01:22:06

She's a very mixed character.

Steve: 01:22:07

Yeah.

Leif: 01:22:08

So let's go ahead and get into some episode

Leif: 01:22:11

grades.

Leif: 01:22:14

Steve, you are up this week. So what first this week,

Leif: 01:22:17

what do you got?

Steve: 01:22:18

I gave this one a b. I liked the

Steve: 01:22:21

a storyline. I didn't hate the b

Steve: 01:22:24

storyline, despite it being weird. And

Steve: 01:22:26

then the Rufus stuff was just kind of

Steve: 01:22:29

sucked. But I didn't hate this episode. I found it

Steve: 01:22:32

engaging, at least, so I went

Steve: 01:22:34

b. John Paul.

Steve: 01:22:36

Jean-Paul: Well, I gave it a c.

Steve: 01:22:39

I really felt that this episode was kind

Steve: 01:22:42

of all over the place. The whole chasing around the little

Steve: 01:22:45

runt kid trying to lose her virginity, the

Steve: 01:22:48

fashion show and just the

Steve: 01:22:50

acting was nothing the best for a

Steve: 01:22:53

lot of these characters. And. And the

Steve: 01:22:56

writing, I don't know. It did not

Steve: 01:22:59

feel as fine tuned as come

Steve: 01:23:02

other, episodes in this season so far.

Steve: 01:23:04

And so it's, again, not

Steve: 01:23:07

the worst, but also, it was just average.

Steve: 01:23:10

It was just okay, you know? So definitely a c.

Steve: 01:23:13

I find that.

Steve: 01:23:14

A lot of episodes have much better

Steve: 01:23:17

directing than writing.

Steve: 01:23:18

Jean-Paul: Yeah. And I was gonna say, and I know, you

Steve: 01:23:21

guys mentioned that you liked the scene of the fashion show.

Steve: 01:23:24

I did, too, but I also thought that scene was kind of

Steve: 01:23:27

shot orally.

Leif: 01:23:28

yeah, I agree with that.

Leif: 01:23:29

Jean-Paul: The way. The way it would look, I think.

Leif: 01:23:31

It was shot on the handheld.

Leif: 01:23:32

Jean-Paul: Yeah, maybe, or. Or, like, because there's other

Leif: 01:23:35

things in this show when you see, like, fashion and different things,

Leif: 01:23:38

they're more glitzy and glamorous, and I understand because it

Leif: 01:23:41

was a gorilla style, that's kind of what they were

Leif: 01:23:44

going to, but it just did not seem on

Leif: 01:23:47

the level that this show does, when it comes to

Leif: 01:23:50

stuff like that.

Leif: 01:23:50

So I feel like they're trying to make it, like, I

Leif: 01:23:53

guess I think it was a, handheld, and I think they're trying to give

Leif: 01:23:56

it that kind of, like, in your face style. It

Leif: 01:23:59

didn't really hit, but I think I see what they're trying for.

Leif: 01:24:02

Jean-Paul: And again, what hit me was, like, when they showed the pictures of

Leif: 01:24:05

the girls of the fashion, that was cool. But when they

Leif: 01:24:08

actually showed the actual model Washington, that's

Leif: 01:24:11

where it was just, like, what? Very jarring. So

Leif: 01:24:14

I don't know.

Leif: 01:24:15

Yeah, I got, Like, yeah, I feel like they're trying to go for, like,

Leif: 01:24:18

that gritty style, like. Like a Friday night lights, like, with the

Leif: 01:24:21

handheld. Yeah, the jar. Like, the little bit of jarriness

Leif: 01:24:24

to it, but it didn't.

Leif: 01:24:25

Jean-Paul: Yeah, I didn't.

Leif: 01:24:26

Like, I said, it didn't.

Leif: 01:24:27

Jean-Paul: It took a swing, but, yeah, it missed. And, like, I said, just

Leif: 01:24:30

the way the episode kind of just was, like, these acts

Leif: 01:24:33

were very kind of weird and disjointed.

Leif: 01:24:36

Yeah.

Leif: 01:24:36

Jean-Paul: Because even the second very weird stories that just,

Leif: 01:24:39

like. And. And also they would just kind of sometimes where

Leif: 01:24:42

they would jump back and forth. Scenes at the bar.

Leif: 01:24:45

Now that you're. We. It's like, oh,

Leif: 01:24:48

I don't know.

Steve: 01:24:49

Didn't hit in this. There was a weird

Steve: 01:24:52

thing in the storytelling in this where the epilogue of

Steve: 01:24:55

this episode. The. The

Steve: 01:24:58

episode epilogue happens after some

Steve: 01:25:01

of the denouement of the other

Steve: 01:25:04

storylines. Right. Like, we have, like,

Steve: 01:25:07

the. We have the. The climax

Steve: 01:25:09

of the fashion show, and then we have the

Steve: 01:25:12

falling action happening during

Steve: 01:25:15

act three rather than

Steve: 01:25:17

fall. Then, you know, throughout the epilogue, like,

Steve: 01:25:20

it usually does.

Leif: 01:25:21

Like.

Steve: 01:25:21

Like, they just. They timed it weirdly in some

Steve: 01:25:24

places.

Leif: 01:25:24

Yeah. I'm kind of in between you guys. I had

Leif: 01:25:27

it as a B minus. I really,

Leif: 01:25:30

really like the a storyline with Jenny. Yeah. I

Leif: 01:25:33

love her getting her, fashion show

Leif: 01:25:36

off. She got her Jay Humphrey designs.

Leif: 01:25:39

But, yeah, the b storyline of the Emma

Leif: 01:25:42

was mediocre at best. And

Leif: 01:25:45

then the c storyline with Aaron and Sarita was horrible.

Leif: 01:25:48

So, yeah, B minus.

Steve: 01:25:50

Yeah. I think my thing with that b

Steve: 01:25:53

storyline was that I liked

Steve: 01:25:56

the team up. I didn't like what

Steve: 01:25:59

the. I didn't like the

Steve: 01:26:02

motivation. You know, I didn't like the losing

Steve: 01:26:04

my virginity, which I felt like they just. They needed it to

Steve: 01:26:07

be a. Be a big thing that's inappropriate

Steve: 01:26:10

for this kid to do. And

Steve: 01:26:13

so it just came out creepy. I felt.

Steve: 01:26:16

Jean-Paul: Well, I agree with the creepy. I mean, you could have just been like,

Steve: 01:26:19

she's, going, like, going out drinking.

Steve: 01:26:21

That's, you know, that's a yes. But.

Steve: 01:26:25

But, yeah, you could have done that better than, like, I just want to lose

Steve: 01:26:27

my for.

Steve: 01:26:29

Yeah.

Steve: 01:26:29

Jean-Paul: Because it would just.

Steve: 01:26:31

Yeah, it was very creepy before this other person.

Steve: 01:26:34

Jean-Paul: Yes.

Leif: 01:26:36

Moving on over to stock watch Steve, who

Leif: 01:26:39

do you got going up?

Steve: 01:26:40

Okay, so my stock going up.

Steve: 01:26:43

I have Jenny. I know she's homeless, but she also

Steve: 01:26:46

has 30 missed calls. Blair and Serena.

Steve: 01:26:49

Looks like Yale is doing well for them. I have

Steve: 01:26:52

Lily going up for just being a fucking

Steve: 01:26:55

champion for Jenny in the end and really

Steve: 01:26:58

coming through. And then I had Chuck going up because

Steve: 01:27:01

Chuck, you know, was a good guy and wasn't a

Steve: 01:27:04

complete creep in this episode. He wasn't a complete

Steve: 01:27:06

creep. He was just a little bit of a creep.

Leif: 01:27:09

But the kind of creepy, like, just, you know, the entertaining. Smart.

Steve: 01:27:12

Yeah. Yeah, exactly.

Leif: 01:27:13

But he doesn't actually do anything.

Steve: 01:27:14

Yeah.

Leif: 01:27:14

He just. He just kind of talks this.

Steve: 01:27:17

He does say to the 13 year old girl, let's not ruin

Steve: 01:27:20

this by you talking.

Steve: 01:27:21

Jean-Paul: He does that. You're right.

Steve: 01:27:23

he does say that, but he doesn't go through with anything.

Leif: 01:27:26

So, like, Jean Paul do you have going up?

Leif: 01:27:29

Jean-Paul: Definitely going up. You can tell that, you

Leif: 01:27:31

know, wants to be supportive. Didn't press

Leif: 01:27:34

charges or anything. Kind of played along with it.

Leif: 01:27:37

Yeah, this. This was a fact and show. Yeah, it's cool. I

Leif: 01:27:40

would say Chuck.

Steve: 01:27:41

Yeah.

Steve: 01:27:41

Jean-Paul: You know, like. Like you guys said,

Steve: 01:27:43

he wasn't his normal, total

Steve: 01:27:46

creepazoid.

Leif: 01:27:47

For me, I had Blair because she got into

Leif: 01:27:50

yellow. At least it looks like she's getting it to yell. I had Dan

Leif: 01:27:52

because, even though he had bad moments, he's

Leif: 01:27:55

now winning, I think is the way

Leif: 01:27:58

to say it. He's going to get what he wants it looks like as

Leif: 01:28:01

well. And again, another one. I didn't like to say

Leif: 01:28:04

going up, but I had to give it to Eric because he's got the

Leif: 01:28:07

wool pulling over Sabrina's eyes.

Steve: 01:28:09

Could you. Could you add Aaron to me, too?

Steve: 01:28:11

Yeah, he said, but

Steve: 01:28:14

he does.

Leif: 01:28:15

He does. this stock is definitely up.

Steve: 01:28:17

I kind of.

Leif: 01:28:18

And then. Yeah, it also Chuck because, same

Leif: 01:28:21

reasons. he's a decent.

Steve: 01:28:23

It's funny. Well, that. That storyline, the

Steve: 01:28:26

c storyline didn't even occur to me when I was doing stock

Steve: 01:28:29

watch. That's why I didn't think of Aaron. But you're right. He does go up, and

Steve: 01:28:32

I'm going to give it to him, too.

Leif: 01:28:33

Steve, who you got going down?

Steve: 01:28:35

I have Dan going down for being a complete

Steve: 01:28:37

fucking asshole throughout the entire

Steve: 01:28:40

episode.

Leif: 01:28:41

He definitely was an asshole.

Steve: 01:28:42

Yeah. I understand where you're. Why I.

Steve: 01:28:45

It's funny because oftentimes, you and I have the flip on

Steve: 01:28:48

that, where I'll see the business side of it, and you'll see, like,

Steve: 01:28:51

the. The fun, like. But,

Steve: 01:28:53

like, he was such a fucking asshole that I sent him

Steve: 01:28:56

down. And Rufus. I have Rufus going

Steve: 01:28:59

down for the parenting. I have

Steve: 01:29:01

Nate going down because Nate just kind of fucking lost

Steve: 01:29:04

everything. And I feel bad for Nate going down, but

Steve: 01:29:07

Nate. Nate's stock went down,

Steve: 01:29:09

Vanessa, because she was on screen.

Steve: 01:29:16

And then I also have Emma's mom going down,

Steve: 01:29:19

and I'm not talking about her date. I'm talking about

Steve: 01:29:22

misses Boardman stock. Yeah, misses Boardman stock went

Steve: 01:29:25

down. Those are mine, Jean Paul.

Steve: 01:29:27

Jean-Paul: All right, well, I have sarita going down because

Steve: 01:29:30

she still falls for this idiot.

Steve: 01:29:33

That is fair.

Steve: 01:29:34

Jean-Paul: I mean, like, it's just, like, come

Steve: 01:29:37

on. You think that she's learned

Steve: 01:29:39

better from falling for idiots, but

Steve: 01:29:42

no. So she's definitely going. She

Steve: 01:29:45

does have a type, but, yeah, she's definitely going down. I mean,

Steve: 01:29:48

I hate this, but, yeah, Nate's going down because

Steve: 01:29:51

he's, you know,

Steve: 01:29:53

homeless again. Yeah, and. And having to

Steve: 01:29:56

deal with whatever other than the matches. Yeah,

Steve: 01:29:59

whatever. In the Hampton.

Steve: 01:30:02

yeah.

Steve: 01:30:02

He's going to have to live full time at the estate in

Steve: 01:30:05

the Hampton.

Steve: 01:30:05

Jean-Paul: I mean, I know it's tough. It's really tough. It's really tough for him. So he's

Steve: 01:30:08

going down for that, rufus for, you know, being parent of the

Steve: 01:30:11

year.

Steve: 01:30:13

Yeah.

Steve: 01:30:13

Jean-Paul: I mean, we've talked about. It's just.

Leif: 01:30:15

Wow.

Leif: 01:30:16

Jean-Paul: Just. Yeah. And, who else I

Leif: 01:30:19

got. I mean, yeah, because Vanessa had

Leif: 01:30:22

nothing to do, really. That was really worth a

Leif: 01:30:25

damn in this episode.

Steve: 01:30:26

Yeah.

Steve: 01:30:27

Jean-Paul: So she's going down, even though I still enjoy her as a

Steve: 01:30:30

character.

Steve: 01:30:30

Jean-Paul: She is going down because. Yeah, she's just not

Steve: 01:30:33

anything or didn't.

Steve: 01:30:35

I think I gave Vanessa stock up on her first

Steve: 01:30:38

episode, and I'm not sure I've given her up

Steve: 01:30:41

since.

Steve: 01:30:43

Jean-Paul: Poor Vanessa. Yeah.

Steve: 01:30:44

I loved her in her first episode.

Steve: 01:30:46

Jean-Paul: Vanessa's my puppy dog. Then.

Steve: 01:30:50

That's fair.

Leif: 01:30:50

She should have been a good character, but they just didn't add the

Leif: 01:30:53

writer.

Leif: 01:30:54

Jean-Paul: She's my puppy dog,

Leif: 01:30:57

which is weird.

Leif: 01:30:57

Which is weird. In the book, she goes to casas with everyone

Leif: 01:31:00

else.

Steve: 01:31:01

Yeah.

Leif: 01:31:01

I don't know why they changed that. For me. Going down.

Leif: 01:31:04

I didn't have Jenny going up or down. I had her as

Leif: 01:31:07

neutral because she looks like

Leif: 01:31:10

she's blowing up, but she's also homeless, so

Leif: 01:31:12

she's going neutral. Nate,

Leif: 01:31:15

I had going down for the same reason you guys said he's

Leif: 01:31:18

homeless, and I. He looks like he lost his friend

Leif: 01:31:21

Dan. They looked like they had a good thing going

Leif: 01:31:24

on for a couple episodes. Serena going down

Leif: 01:31:27

because looks like she's going to be going down.

Leif: 01:31:32

Jean-Paul: It's called book rich.

Leif: 01:31:35

And then I had Emma going down just because she was

Leif: 01:31:38

annoying all episode.

Steve: 01:31:40

And that's fair.

Leif: 01:31:41

Just being, a

Leif: 01:31:43

dumb teenager, I guess. I guess I thought it was married

Leif: 01:31:46

Emma, but yeah. Yeah, I just gave her docs

Leif: 01:31:49

I wanted to and misses Boardman. also, I gave her

Leif: 01:31:52

to going down because she was challenging Rufus for being the

Leif: 01:31:55

worst parent in the episode.

Steve: 01:31:56

Yeah. Surprisingly, she actually

Steve: 01:31:59

succeeded.

Leif: 01:32:00

Yeah.

Leif: 01:32:00

Jean-Paul: You know.

Steve: 01:32:01

Yeah. Rufus tried to get his daughter arrested, but she was like,

Steve: 01:32:04

I don't want to spend time with you.

Leif: 01:32:06

Yeah, her screen time, she. She outdid

Leif: 01:32:09

him.

Leif: 01:32:09

Jean-Paul: yeah, she's down

Leif: 01:32:12

as well because of that reason. I agree with you because

Leif: 01:32:15

you're right. first screen time, I've got nothing to do.

Steve: 01:32:17

Yeah.

Steve: 01:32:17

Jean-Paul: Ah, yeah. Definitely

Steve: 01:32:19

work.

Leif: 01:32:22

And then last of all, Rufus, we talked about all that, so no need

Leif: 01:32:25

to elaborate.

Steve: 01:32:26

Yeah.

Leif: 01:32:26

Going on to best outfit.

Steve: 01:32:29

But here's the best outfits from the.

Steve: 01:32:32

Jean-Paul: Last episode we see.

Leif: 01:32:35

Steve, who you got?

Steve: 01:32:37

I'm giving it to Jenny for the dress during the fashion

Steve: 01:32:40

show, although Robin had the critique

Steve: 01:32:42

of. And I guess it's like a

Steve: 01:32:45

famous fashion person said that before you go

Steve: 01:32:48

out, look in the mirror and take off one thing.

Steve: 01:32:51

Robin did have that to say about Jenny's

Steve: 01:32:53

outfit, but I loved that dress. She was like,

Steve: 01:32:56

with the makeup and the hair, and she was like, there's too much

Steve: 01:32:59

punk rock happening. I loved it.

Leif: 01:33:02

All right, John Paul, what do you got?

Leif: 01:33:04

Jean-Paul: I gotta also go with Jenny, but I had that little. Little

Leif: 01:33:07

hat thing she had.

Leif: 01:33:08

Yeah. The shack.

Leif: 01:33:09

Jean-Paul: Yeah.

Leif: 01:33:10

I don't know.

Leif: 01:33:10

Jean-Paul: It was just adorable.

Steve: 01:33:14

Yeah.

Leif: 01:33:15

And. Yeah, yeah. So, and also she had the

Leif: 01:33:18

gold locket.

Steve: 01:33:19

Yeah.

Steve: 01:33:19

Jean-Paul: Yeah. So you're right.

Leif: 01:33:21

Always got to give props to the accessories.

Leif: 01:33:23

Jean-Paul: The accessories. Yep. So, yeah, definitely.

Leif: 01:33:26

And I was also going to give it to Jenny, but since you guys

Leif: 01:33:28

both gave it to her, I'm going to pivot to my second choice of the

Leif: 01:33:31

last, minute. And, it was, Agnes's dress that. The

Leif: 01:33:34

tool. I wasn't a big fan of the tights. She had, like,

Leif: 01:33:37

camo tights, but I like the tool with the black over top of

Leif: 01:33:40

it and the neck tie. Like, the loose

Leif: 01:33:43

neck tie.

Steve: 01:33:44

Nice. Yeah.

Leif: 01:33:45

I originally did have jetty written down.

Leif: 01:33:46

Jean-Paul: So we all like punk rock girls is what we're saying.

Leif: 01:33:50

Yeah. Yeah. I have been known to like

Leif: 01:33:53

a punk rock girl. And that is it for our

Leif: 01:33:56

segments, and we're gonna get some plugs. But

Leif: 01:33:59

first, John Paul, thank you for joining us.

Leif: 01:34:02

Jean-Paul: Yeah, we really appreciate you having me

Leif: 01:34:04

being on.

Steve: 01:34:05

please, if you have anything you'd like to plug, please,

Steve: 01:34:08

share and let us know.

Steve: 01:34:10

Jean-Paul: So I have a small, little segment in the last

Steve: 01:34:12

roundup or podcast called

Steve: 01:34:17

trailer Trash, where I

Steve: 01:34:19

just find horrible trailers of horrible

Steve: 01:34:23

movies and, you know,

Steve: 01:34:25

see if the rest of the gang enjoys them or not.

Steve: 01:34:28

Lately, they have. So I've not been doing my job

Steve: 01:34:31

right.

Steve: 01:34:32

And, I mean, it's a lot of fun.

Steve: 01:34:34

Jean-Paul: Yeah, it's a lot of fun. It did stem from, like,

Steve: 01:34:37

during COVID I had a, for

Steve: 01:34:39

a little bit, a small podcast where

Steve: 01:34:42

I, called Flock, fest,

Steve: 01:34:45

where I would invite,

Steve: 01:34:48

Randy over and force him to watch terrible

Steve: 01:34:51

movies, and then we would talk about them.

Steve: 01:34:54

That's funny.

Steve: 01:34:55

Jean-Paul: So kind of like mystery science theater, but I didn't quite, you

Steve: 01:34:58

know, open his eyes. Yeah,

Steve: 01:35:01

a lot of fun, random musicals because, you know,

Steve: 01:35:04

there's a lot of crazy stuff out there, like the

Steve: 01:35:07

apple.

Steve: 01:35:07

That's great.

Leif: 01:35:08

we'll make sure to get the links in the show notes to

Leif: 01:35:11

check those out, folks. Steve, what are you

Leif: 01:35:13

plugging?

Steve: 01:35:14

so I'm not sure exactly when this is coming out, but

Steve: 01:35:17

I'm pretty sure it's before October, right? So,

Steve: 01:35:20

so October 18 and

Steve: 01:35:23

19th, I will be a part of the Lockhaven

Steve: 01:35:26

Fringe festival. If you're in central Pennsylvania,

Steve: 01:35:28

come out to Lock Haven. I'll be playing,

Steve: 01:35:31

last year, I know I played two sets at two

Steve: 01:35:34

different places on two different nights, so I don't know

Steve: 01:35:37

what it's going to look like this year, but I'll have more

Steve: 01:35:40

details as we get closer. But come out to Lockhaven

Steve: 01:35:43

for the fringe festival.

Leif: 01:35:44

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Leif: 01:37:23

Max episode description reads,

Leif: 01:37:26

jenny moves in with Agnes.

Leif: 01:37:29

she's not homeless after all.

Steve: 01:37:31

No. Oh, my God. Does that. Does what's his name still

Steve: 01:37:34

there? Is her. Is Agnes.

Leif: 01:37:37

That was Max's place.

Steve: 01:37:39

Oh, okay. Okay.

Leif: 01:37:40

They're after or. Yeah, we'll see. Where?

Leif: 01:37:43

I mean, presumably. I mean, she. We. Agnes

Leif: 01:37:46

is also at minor, so presumably she lives with her parents.

Steve: 01:37:48

We'll see. I mean, Jen. Vanessa doesn't

Steve: 01:37:51

m. Well, I told.

Leif: 01:37:53

Next time. You know you love us.

Steve: 01:37:55

Xoxo.

Steve: 01:37:58

Jean-Paul: Every time you walk away, run away you take a

Steve: 01:38:01

piece of me with you there

Steve: 01:38:04

every time you walk away, run away you take a

Steve: 01:38:07

piece of me with you there

Steve: 01:38:11

every time you walk away and run Away you take a piece

Steve: 01:38:14

of me with you there

Steve: 01:38:17

oh, it seems I'm walking right to

Steve: 01:38:20

your door.

Steve: 01:38:23

My heart's.

Steve: 01:38:24

Jean-Paul: Still resting looking for something

Steve: 01:38:26

more.

Steve: 01:38:30

Are.

Steve: 01:38:30

Jean-Paul: You ever gonna see everything you mean to me?

Steve: 01:38:33

Trying really hard to believe

Steve: 01:38:36

every time you walk away or run away you take a

Steve: 01:38:39

piece of me with you there

Steve: 01:38:43

every time you walk away or run away you take a

Steve: 01:38:45

piece of me with you there

Steve: 01:38:49

every time you walk away or run away you take a

Steve: 01:38:52

piece of me with you there

Steve: 01:38:55

never feels right when I'm out here on my

Steve: 01:38:58

own

Steve: 01:39:02

I left last night and it feels like

Steve: 01:39:04

way too long

Steve: 01:39:08

are you ever gonna see everything you mean to

Steve: 01:39:11

me? I'm trying really hard to believe

Steve: 01:39:15

every time you walk away, run away you take a piece

Steve: 01:39:18

of me with you there

Steve: 01:39:21

every time you walk away, run away you take a piece

Steve: 01:39:24

of me with you there

Steve: 01:39:28

every time you walk away, run away you take a

Steve: 01:39:30

piece of me with you there

Steve: 01:39:36

come back to me

Steve: 01:39:40

smile and you'll make my life

Steve: 01:39:43

complete

Steve: 01:39:47

every time you walk away, run away you take a peek

Steve: 01:39:50

of me with you there

Steve: 01:39:53

every time you walk away or run away you take a

Steve: 01:39:56

piece of me with you there

Steve: 01:40:00

every time you walk away or run away you take a

Steve: 01:40:03

piece of me with you there

Steve: 01:40:06

every time you walk away run away and take a

Steve: 01:40:09

piece of me with you there

Steve: 01:40:13

every time you walk away run away and take a piece of

Steve: 01:40:15

piece of me with you there

Steve: 01:40:19

every time you walk away and run away you take a

Steve: 01:40:22

piece of me with you there

Steve: 01:40:25

every time you walk away or run away you take a

Steve: 01:40:28

piece of me with you there

Steve: 01:40:32

every time you walk away or run away you take a

Steve: 01:40:35

piece of me with you there.