In this episode, Aaron Epperson interviews Matt and Erik. Oh, and we are joined by Nate Neff! It is a magical experience filled with interesting questions. By the way, since Joey missed this episode, he owes Aaron a 6-pack of beer. PBR, of course. Also, please note that this is not a Masonic podcast. Location We recorded this at WeWork Custom House in Portland, Oregon. Links Aaron was kind enough to suggest a bunch of podcasts. Here they are!

• Tanis
• Judge John Hodgeman
• Opening Arguments
• Unorthodox
• The Louis Anderson Podcast
• Smodcast

Books books books! We always talk about books!

• Three Books of Occult Philosophy by Heinrich Cornelius Agrippa
• Hidden Wisdom by Richard Smoley and Jay Kinney
• The Inner West by Jay Kinney
• The Picatrix

And More! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=06X5HYynP5E