105 The Power of Belief: Lessons from Glen McCoy | Diary Of A CEO Conversation Cards

In this episode, Ricky Locke interviews Glen McCoy, a scriptwriter and creative. They discuss the belief or behavior that has positively impacted Glenn's life in the past 12 months. Glen shares his belief in allowing things to happen rather than forcing them, and how this belief has led to positive changes in his life. They also explore the idea of living in a virtual simulation and the power of believing in the ability to change one's circumstances. The conversation concludes with a reflection on choices and the importance of connecting with one's inner child.

Takeaways

• Allowing things to happen rather than forcing them can lead to positive changes in life.
• Believing in the possibility of change can open up new opportunities.
• Challenging the belief that life is set in stone can empower individuals to make meaningful changes.
• Connecting with your inner child and reflecting on your past aspirations can inspire personal growth.

Chapters

00:00 Introduction and Background

01:24 The Belief that Positively Impacted Glen's Life

05:00 Challenging the Belief that Life is Set in Stone

08:12 Reflecting on Choices and Making Changes

09:35 Connecting with Your Inner Child

10:32 Wrap-up and Where to Find Glen McCoy

Find out more about Glen and his work at https://www.linkedin.com/in/glenmccoy/

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Ricky Locke (00:00.977)

Welcome to the Unlocked podcast in my mini series where we're using the diary of a CEO conversation cards to unlock some deeper levels of connection. Today, I've got a very special guest. Welcome Glenn McCoy. How are you, Glenn?

Glen McCoy (00:15.982)

Very well, Ricky. Thanks for inviting me.

Ricky Locke (00:18.289)

I'm really excited for this. Good to see it. And Glenn, just for the listeners, if they haven't heard of you or not met you before, tell the listeners who are you and what is it that you do?

Glen McCoy (00:28.174)

So I'm Glenn McCoy. I am a script writer, writer and creative in general, and I write for television, but also the corporate market.

Ricky Locke (00:39.955)

Yes, and I believe is there a couple of films or TV series that we are quite familiar with, I believe.

Glen McCoy (00:46.894)

Yes, if I mentioned them, I'd ruin my street cred immediately. However, you may have heard of EastEnders and Emmerdale. So that's where I cut my teeth writing on the soaps.

Ricky Locke (00:50.419)

Yeah

Ricky Locke (00:55.067)

Yes.

Yes, very, very good. Well, Glenn, as I've mentioned and for familiar listeners, this is where we're going to dive into just a random card for clarity. I know this sounds like because I'm a magician. This sounds like really forced, but you have no idea what we're about to say. I have not pre set this up with you, correct? It's a very classic magician line, that one. But I'm going to ask you the question. Are you ready for your question, Glenn? OK, Glenn, here is the question.

Glen McCoy (01:13.486)

No idea. That's absolutely correct.

Ricky Locke (01:24.979)

What is the one belief or behavior that has positively impacted your life in the past 12 months?

Glen McCoy (01:36.27)

Yes, I would say the belief that most impacted me is how I've noticed where I have arrived in the last 12 months. So in other words, in the last 12 months, I've moved from somewhere in the country that I was living for about 16 years. My decision to do it was on a whim and I now move north and I live in Clitheroe.

in Lancashire, and I reflect on the number of other changes that have happened to me, which all align with my purpose and the things that I want out of life. And I kind of think to myself, my belief structure around this is that the harder you try and make things happen, the worse it is. If you can kind of relax and lay back and...

still know what you want, but allow it to happen. In other words, don't chase it so much. It's more likely to come into your direction.

Ricky Locke (02:45.523)

Interesting. Now that I mean, obviously that sounds kind of counterproductive there, you know, by having a relaxed attitude towards it that things are likely to happen. So why has that happened for you?

Glen McCoy (02:58.51)

Because if you pressurize your belief system and you do put it under pressure, I don't think it functions as well as still maintaining the belief, but having that confidence and expectation that it will happen anyway.

Ricky Locke (03:16.755)

Interesting. So what are those beliefs that's positively impacted? Is there anything specifically? So you mentioned obviously about obviously working hard, you've moved. So what are those beliefs?

Glen McCoy (03:29.294)

Well, I've been looking at a lot of well -known scientists who are more like astrophysicists. And if you can go and check this out yourself. But a lot of the top people in this realm have come to the conclusion that we live in a virtual simulation. That kind of thing, yeah. Now, whether we do or whether we don't doesn't really interest me.

Ricky Locke (03:52.595)

Like the Matrix. Yeah.

Glen McCoy (03:59.064)

However, my thinking around it is that what if it was true that we are in this virtual simulation, it must therefore mean that you can construct just about anything you want in the future, because it's the nature of a computer program. You know, you kind of write the code, pop it in, and out comes the outcome or the result.

And by having that belief, I feel I've covered more ground and got more things done than having the belief that this is all very real and you can't change it and you are kind of there because someone's put you there and you have to just cross your fingers and hope for the best. That is kind of pushing your beliefs, but having the belief that you can change things suddenly makes it easier for you to have the confidence.

to make those changes happen in reality.

Ricky Locke (05:00.755)

I think that's fascinating. Yeah. And I agree. There's, there's a lot of, um, there's a guy, I can't quite remember his name now. He's very big on TikTok social media. And he interviews people in the street and says, what's your dream in the street? And they're like, completely like they're in the matrix completely, but in the opposite sense of like, their heads down blinkered, like, this is my life. You're right. So it's fascinating. But one of the things that is like, I think it's really difficult is a lot of people, you know, and I'm not going to name names here, but I know especially,

Glen McCoy (05:15.95)

Mm.

Ricky Locke (05:30.259)

family members, friends that have a belief that I can't change things, that my life is set in stone, cause and effect, right? I live at the effect of this. So for those people listening, it might be very easy for people like me and you who live in that world where, you know, we're an LP trained, we are big fans of learning development. But for those people that are listening that, no, no, I don't get it. I don't believe that. I believe that my life is set in stone. That is it. What would you say to them about giving them

Glen McCoy (05:54.486)

Thank you.

Ricky Locke (05:59.379)

belief that they can change things in their life, what they need to do.

Glen McCoy (06:04.014)

Reminds me of the very old movie Shirley Valentine, I don't if you've ever seen it. But there's...

Ricky Locke (06:09.683)

I'm a bit young Glenn, but yeah, I do know. Yeah. I think I remember. Yes. True. Yes. Yeah.

Glen McCoy (06:13.618)

Age aside, you can always do it tomorrow. You get that movie out and look at it. You've, without giving anything away that will spoil it for you, you've got a woman who is locked into a belief system created by her husband. And the...

Ricky Locke (06:31.333)

Wait, hang on a minute. I might remember this because I think Glenn and hopefully I'm not going to spoil this, but my mum used to love Shirley Valentine because is this the lady that goes abroad and lives in a... Okay, cool. Go for it. Sorry. Carry on. I know who it is now. Yes.

Glen McCoy (06:40.494)

Yes. Now she got to a stage where she had to make a decision. She could either carry on and make sure her husband gets his meat and veg on a Tuesday and fish on a Friday, or she could go off into the sunset and do something completely different. It's not that she, what could I say?

fell out with her husband as such. She just had had enough of being pushed down this path. And I think it's quite a good movie. You should kind of have a look at it. And that kind of reminds me that if you're on a path and you think you can't do anything about it, well, you have to realize that that's you for the rest of your life. Nothing is going to change. And that's the way it's going to be. Or today,

you could make some changes and step out of where you are and just play with this idea, even if it's just for a couple of weeks, of doing something completely and utterly different. And do you have the courage to do that? Now, of course, we all know that if we had to do that, we were forced into doing it, we would. So it is within our choice system to make that decision. And if you've never done that before,

It's something you should consider.

Ricky Locke (08:12.115)

very powerful, Glenn. And you've reminded me this always happens when I do podcast recordings with awesome guests like yourself, where we do like the quote tennis. I'm give you a quote and then I'll quote that. Jim Rohn, you know, he always used to say, like, if you want things to change, you have to change, you know, and it's the same thing, isn't it? And making a choice there. So for people listening to this, as we wrap this up, based on your experience over the last 12 months about the positive

belief that's positively impact your life, but also about this living in a virtual world or the matrix, as we call it, and we have the belief we get to choose what we do. What's one thing do you think that people should go away and think and feel after hearing your story?

Glen McCoy (08:59.918)

about the Matrix world or about anything.

Ricky Locke (09:02.323)

Oh, I think we should go for the beliefs about, yeah, you get to choose. Yeah. So what do you think they should go away and do?

Glen McCoy (09:05.326)

Please. Okay. So the one thing, the one thing you may want to do is get into a time machine and go back to when you were five or six. And go back to your five or six year old self and try and remember what that young person was expecting to be or become as an adult.

and ask yourself the question, if you were able to do that and you were able to show that five or six year old what happened to them, would they be proud? Would they be happy? Or would they be disappointed?

Now, if it's proud and happy, you've cracked it. If it's disappointed, then part two would be what could you do today to change that disappointment so that this time next year you could go back in the time machine and say, actually, I came too early, this is who I am now, what do you think? And they're just elated.

Ricky Locke (10:15.827)

Wow, that's very powerful, isn't it? It almost speaks to the inner child in us as well. Love that. Well, Glenn, thank you so much for this lovely little bite size episode. If people want to hear more or find out more about you, where can they go to learn about Glenn McCoy?

Glen McCoy (10:32.622)

just Google Glenn McCoy and look for a Glenn McCoy writer. There's a Glenn McCoy with two N's for Glenn, who is a cartoonist in America, a successful one, and very often I get mail destined for him. So it's Glenn with one N.

Ricky Locke (10:43.187)

Not that one.

Ricky Locke (10:52.627)

Brilliant. Glenwen one end. Fantastic. Thank you, Glen, for coming on. Thank you.

Glen McCoy (10:58.862)

My pleasure, thanks, Ricky.

Welcome to the Unlocked podcast in my mini series where we're using the diary of a CEO conversation cards to unlock some deeper levels of connection. Today, I've got a very special guest. Welcome Glenn McCoy. How are you, Glenn?

Very well, Ricky. Thanks for inviting me.

I'm really excited for this. Good to see it. And Glenn, just for the listeners, if they haven't heard of you or not met you before, tell the listeners who are you and what is it that you do?

So I'm Glenn McCoy. I am a script writer, writer and creative in general, and I write for television, but also the corporate market.

Yes, and I believe is there a couple of films or TV series that we are quite familiar with, I believe.

Yes, if I mentioned them, I'd ruin my street cred immediately. However, you may have heard of EastEnders and Emmerdale. So that's where I cut my teeth writing on the soaps.

Yeah

Yes.

Yes, very, very good. Well, Glenn, as I've mentioned and for familiar listeners, this is where we're going to dive into just a random card for clarity. I know this sounds like because I'm a magician. This sounds like really forced, but you have no idea what we're about to say. I have not pre set this up with you, correct? It's a very classic magician line, that one. But I'm going to ask you the question. Are you ready for your question, Glenn? OK, Glenn, here is the question.

No idea. That's absolutely correct.

What is the one belief or behavior that has positively impacted your life in the past 12 months?

Yes, I would say the belief that most impacted me is how I've noticed where I have arrived in the last 12 months. So in other words, in the last 12 months, I've moved from somewhere in the country that I was living for about 16 years. My decision to do it was on a whim and I now move north and I live in Clitheroe.

in Lancashire, and I reflect on the number of other changes that have happened to me, which all align with my purpose and the things that I want out of life. And I kind of think to myself, my belief structure around this is that the harder you try and make things happen, the worse it is. If you can kind of relax and lay back and...

still know what you want, but allow it to happen. In other words, don't chase it so much. It's more likely to come into your direction.

Interesting. Now that I mean, obviously that sounds kind of counterproductive there, you know, by having a relaxed attitude towards it that things are likely to happen. So why has that happened for you?

Because if you pressurize your belief system and you do put it under pressure, I don't think it functions as well as still maintaining the belief, but having that confidence and expectation that it will happen anyway.

Interesting. So what are those beliefs that's positively impacted? Is there anything specifically? So you mentioned obviously about obviously working hard, you've moved. So what are those beliefs?

Well, I've been looking at a lot of well -known scientists who are more like astrophysicists. And if you can go and check this out yourself. But a lot of the top people in this realm have come to the conclusion that we live in a virtual simulation. That kind of thing, yeah. Now, whether we do or whether we don't doesn't really interest me.

Like the Matrix. Yeah.

However, my thinking around it is that what if it was true that we are in this virtual simulation, it must therefore mean that you can construct just about anything you want in the future, because it's the nature of a computer program. You know, you kind of write the code, pop it in, and out comes the outcome or the result.

And by having that belief, I feel I've covered more ground and got more things done than having the belief that this is all very real and you can't change it and you are kind of there because someone's put you there and you have to just cross your fingers and hope for the best. That is kind of pushing your beliefs, but having the belief that you can change things suddenly makes it easier for you to have the confidence.

to make those changes happen in reality.

I think that's fascinating. Yeah. And I agree. There's, there's a lot of, um, there's a guy, I can't quite remember his name now. He's very big on TikTok social media. And he interviews people in the street and says, what's your dream in the street? And they're like, completely like they're in the matrix completely, but in the opposite sense of like, their heads down blinkered, like, this is my life. You're right. So it's fascinating. But one of the things that is like, I think it's really difficult is a lot of people, you know, and I'm not going to name names here, but I know especially,

Mm.

family members, friends that have a belief that I can't change things, that my life is set in stone, cause and effect, right? I live at the effect of this. So for those people listening, it might be very easy for people like me and you who live in that world where, you know, we're an NLP trained, we are big fans of learning development. But for those people that are listening that, no, no, I don't get it. I don't believe that. I believe that my life is set in stone. That is it. What would you say to them about giving them

Thank you.

belief that they can change things in their life, what they need to do.

Reminds me of the very old movie Shirley Valentine, I don't if you've ever seen it. But there's...

I'm a bit young Glenn, but yeah, I do know. Yeah. I think I remember. Yes. True. Yes. Yeah.

Age aside, you can always do it tomorrow. You get that movie out and look at it. You've, without giving anything away that will spoil it for you, you've got a woman who is locked into a belief system created by her husband. And the...

Wait, hang on a minute. I might remember this because I think Glenn and hopefully I'm not going to spoil this, but my mum used to love Shirley Valentine because is this the lady that goes abroad and lives in a... Okay, cool. Go for it. Sorry. Carry on. I know who it is now. Yes.

Yes. Now she got to a stage where she had to make a decision. She could either carry on and make sure her husband gets his meat and veg on a Tuesday and fish on a Friday, or she could go off into the sunset and do something completely different. It's not that she, what could I say?

fell out with her husband as such. She just had had enough of being pushed down this path. And I think it's quite a good movie. You should kind of have a look at it. And that kind of reminds me that if you're on a path and you think you can't do anything about it, well, you have to realize that that's you for the rest of your life. Nothing is going to change. And that's the way it's going to be. Or today,

you could make some changes and step out of where you are and just play with this idea, even if it's just for a couple of weeks, of doing something completely and utterly different. And do you have the courage to do that? Now, of course, we all know that if we had to do that, we were forced into doing it, we would. So it is within our choice system to make that decision. And if you've never done that before,

It's something you should consider.

very powerful, Glenn. And you've reminded me this always happens when I do podcast recordings with awesome guests like yourself, where we do like the quote tennis. I'm give you a quote and then I'll quote that. Jim Rohn, you know, he always used to say, like, if you want things to change, you have to change, you know, and it's the same thing, isn't it? And making a choice there. So for people listening to this, as we wrap this up, based on your experience over the last 12 months about the positive

belief that's positively impact your life, but also about this living in a virtual world or the matrix, as we call it, and we have the belief we get to choose what we do. What's one thing do you think that people should go away and think and feel after hearing your story?

about the Matrix world or about anything.

Oh, I think we should go for the beliefs about, yeah, you get to choose. Yeah. So what do you think they should go away and do?

Please. Okay. So the one thing, the one thing you may want to do is get into a time machine and go back to when you were five or six. And go back to your five or six year old self and try and remember what that young person was expecting to be or become as an adult.

and ask yourself the question, if you were able to do that and you were able to show that five or six year old what happened to them, would they be proud? Would they be happy? Or would they be disappointed?

Now, if it's proud and happy, you've cracked it. If it's disappointed, then part two would be what could you do today to change that disappointment so that this time next year you could go back in the time machine and say, actually, I came too early, this is who I am now, what do you think? And they're just elated.

Wow, that's very powerful, isn't it? It almost speaks to the inner child in us as well. Love that. Well, Glenn, thank you so much for this lovely little bite size episode. If people want to hear more or find out more about you, where can they go to learn about Glenn McCoy?

just Google Glenn McCoy and look for a Glenn McCoy writer. There's a Glenn McCoy with two N's for Glenn, who is a cartoonist in America, a successful one, and very often I get mail destined for him. So it's Glenn with one N.

Not that one.

Brilliant. Glenwen one end. Fantastic. Thank you, Glen, for coming on. Thank you.

My pleasure, thanks, Ricky.