It's time for Last Time On, the podcast for everyone who wants to watch all of that prestige television, but who has time for that? Our hosts don't, so they take the randomized highway down your favorite shows they haven't seen, and try to guess what happened Last Time On!

Join us as Ben, Victor, and Xhafer watch the Ori build a death star. Ben practices tantric wormhole, Victor just wants to see a railgun, and Xhafer explains why you shouldn’t drink copper.

Dominion Media Television is your side project.

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Isn't this your side project?

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Victor: Yes, but I didn't

wanna say that on your podcast.

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So.

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Xhafer: not.

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It's has I, I was, I don't

know if I've told this story.

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I don't think I've talked about

this on this pod but on who are you?

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I've probably mentioned that I,

at one point was in a band that

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was my band's opening act as a

joke, as like a side project.

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And it was the Manhattan Side

Project was the name of the other

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band of which Ben is a member,

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a longstanding member.

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Victor: Hey.

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All right.

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Xhafer: started as a way 'cause, so I

was in a grunge band and I played bass

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in a grunge band for a number of years.

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And we would get these wristbands when

we would go and play the bar in our

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college town, which gave us dollar drinks.

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They also, you just booked a night.

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They didn't care.

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You had to arrange your own

opening acts and everything.

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They were just like,

okay, this night is yours.

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If you want anyone else to play

with you, you figure it out.

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And so we had bands down in the

Detroit area that we had played a

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number of shows with, that we were

friends with that we would invite up.

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But at a certain point we're

like, well, we need three bands

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and we only have two for tonight.

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So we just made our own band and used

it as an excuse to give a bunch of

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our friends dollar drink wrist bands.

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And that's how that band started.

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And then it, it's has survived

significantly longer than the grunge band

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Victor: Nice.

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Xhafer: point.

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The grunge band's been dead for, I.

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13 years at this point.

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And the other band, while not

particularly active, has done at least

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five to 10 shows in that 13 years.

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So

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Ben: A lot of

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Victor: Good job.

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Xhafer: A lot of them in your

basement, but also in actual venues.

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We've done a couple.

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It's been a long time though.

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Victor: Ben, what do you play?

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Oh,

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Ben: and trombone, but that

didn't, that didn't factor in much.

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Xhafer: Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Victor: I'm just guessing that is

your plays guitar based on his guitar

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collection in the background there?

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Xhafer: I have played guitar for

that band, but I'm mostly the drummer

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in its current configuration.

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Victor: Oh, wow.

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Xhafer: I don't play a full drum set.

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I play a gym Bay mostly.

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Victor: What's a gym bay

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Xhafer: A gym Bay is a West African

drum that looks like an hourglass.

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It's called a talking Drum because

it's used for communication,

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primarily outside of its musical use.

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Victor: That is just so on brand for.

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Xhafer: it's, it's a really cool drum.

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'cause what makes it unique is so how

tight a drum head is, factors into

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the pitch of the drum head, right?

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Like how far you've stretched

that surface when you hit it,

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impacts the sound it makes.

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So the Gym Bay has a set of strings

down the side that you can squeeze

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with your arm, like the inside of your

arm while you're drumming, and you can

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adjust the pitch of the drum that way.

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So you can do cool

things with it that way.

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And then due to the nature of it being a

hand drum, there's a handful of neat like

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techniques where you place a free hand

on different parts of the edge of the

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drum at different angles, which muffles

it in certain directions and you can kind

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of get cool sounds out of it that way.

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It's a fun little drum that I play

around with from time to time.

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Ben: If you're imagining

a hippie drum circle,

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they are playing DJ base.

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Xhafer: It is a thousand percent the

stereotypical hippie drum circle drum.

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Victor: You are gonna have to

demonstrate for us on pod sometime, man.

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Play.

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Play

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Xhafer: not on.

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pod, but Sure.

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I haven't played, I haven't

picked it up in probably two

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years, so I need to do that.

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Um, but I play everything in that band.

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I once made a point of doing

an entire show where I played a

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different instrument for every song.

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Because it was just a joke for

me at that point in college.

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I played jugs on stage.

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I had like six glass jugs

filled with different things of

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water and did a song on those.

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I've played Bazookie with

that band, guitar, bass, drum

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Victor: Do you have a Digi du?

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Ben: We know a guy

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Xhafer: I have played

did do for that band.

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Victor: If you've got a dig guy

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Xhafer: we do have, we have a,

we have a couple dig do guys.

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And I borrowed one.

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God, what

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Victor: that is

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Xhafer: of shit.

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Tambourine, like, just whatever

we could find musically.

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I think I did jaw harp once, like

just all kinds of random shit.

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Just whatever I could find.

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Victor: damn.

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I can barely play the kazoo, man.

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I am.

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I'm in awe of your skillset here.

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Xhafer: harmonica a handful of times.

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Just whatever.

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It was just fun to fuck around with.

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Ben: that I will say part of just

remember this is opening band in a college

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band's bar set like we were having fun.

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I.

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Xhafer: Yeah.

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I

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Ben: Not not, not tight musically,

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Xhafer: We

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would maybe practice sometimes, but

most of the time it was kind of just

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like, Hey, we're, this is our set list.

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Learn these songs and maybe we'll get

together and have a beer before the show

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was very much the style of that band.

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Victor: Well,

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Ben: but very cool.

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Uh, well, I was just gonna say,

very cool that we are gonna be

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seeing a DMTV logo on a robot.

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Victor: Oh yeah.

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Yeah.

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So, I don't know if I've

mentioned that earlier, but Yeah.

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is an official sponsor team Bloodsport.

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Oh, I did mention that.

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Okay,

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good.

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I'll edit that

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Xhafer: yeah,

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I just ran away with this cold,

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Victor: later.

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Ben: That's all right.

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Victor: No, this is cool.

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I like hearing J'S backstory.

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This is awesome.

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Xhafer: If you wanna hear more

of my backstory, that's half

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of the premise of who are You?

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My Babylon five watch cast

with my co-host, Laura.

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Where we get to know each other

over the course of the podcast,

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Victor: Oh, right, right,

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Xhafer: Yeah.

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Because I mean, we're, we're good

friends now, but when we started back

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in season one that was the whole thing

was we were getting to know each other.

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Our second or third conversation

ever was our first episode.

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Like

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Victor: How, how did

you two get that going?

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It being complete strange.

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Okay.

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Ben did it

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Xhafer: Ben did it.

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Ben: it's my fault.

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Xhafer: so, we are Ben, Laura

and I are all friends of DeSoto.

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As you've also

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meant made mention before you listen

to the Greatest Generation Star

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Trek podcast and there is a Facebook

group for people who podcast and also

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listen to the Greatest Generation.

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Victor: Okay.

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Wow.

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Xhafer: we were part of that because

we were doing draft the universe

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back then.

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And so at one point Laura was all

like, Hey, I wanna do this Babylon

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five podcast, and my co-host bailed.

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And then Ben was all like, Hey,

Jair just is finishing up a

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rewatch of Babylon five right now,

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Ben: Yeah, and draft the universe

had ended and Jair was championing

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at the bit to to podcast again.

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Xhafer: this

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podcast actually was the thing

that I was talking about back then.

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But this ended up getting shelved

and ended up doing, who are you

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for a couple of years before we

resurrected this idea for this podcast.

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Victor: Nice.

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Xhafer: Uh, but I think, I think

this podcast idea goes back to

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even before draft the Universe.

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I found some very, very old notes of mine,

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Victor: Hmm.

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Xhafer: That detailed out how we

could possibly go about this podcast.

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Victor: Sweet.

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Xhafer: it was very different in those

early stages than its current incarnation.

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Yeah, so I've just talked a ton.

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Um, do you know what's

pretty silent though?

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The opening of this episode?

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We've got Stargate SG one, season

nine, episode six beachhead,

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and , we open on some Jfa,

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Ben: Well, no, we open

on an unskipable recap.

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It doesn't have the re

skip, the skip recap button,

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Xhafer: you

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Victor: I fast

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Xhafer: So

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I skipped it.

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Ben: Yeah.

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Xhafer: I hit that fast

forward ten four times

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and your timing was perfect.

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I saw Beau Bridge's face for like

half a second before I could know what

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was going on, and then went into the

episode, which was just because I'm all

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like, I feel like I knew that guy,

but I didn't see enough of him.

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And then I didn't

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find out it was about bridges

until we hit our theme music,

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which we'll talk about in a moment.

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'cause

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we've

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Victor: As I heard,

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as soon as I heard previously

on Stargate SG one.

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Yeah.

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I started hitting Fast Forward.

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I, I, I caught a glimpse of

Claudia Black wearing Rocky Horror

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Picture Show cosplay apparently.

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So that

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Xhafer: I missed that.

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Victor: she was in some, yeah, she was

in some strappy leather bondage gear.

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It looked like.

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It was like, whoa.

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Okay.

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Well,

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Ben: It wouldn't be an early

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Xhafer: actual Rocky

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Ben: sci-fi show.

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Xhafer: Okay.

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Ben: I,

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Xhafer: I'm really hoping there's

a Rocky Horror episode of SG one.

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Ben: know, at this point, statistically

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200 episodes probably.

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but yeah,

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we have a group of jfa.

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They are trying to tell this

this guy who is an O Ori Pro

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prior hey, we we read your book.

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We didn't like it.

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We don't wanna subscribe

to your newsletter.

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Victor: Yeah.

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Ben: like, too bad.

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So sad.

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Zaps him with his magic staff,

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Victor: Yeah.

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He, he gives him

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Ben: these people flying.

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Victor: That was an epic Heat sends him

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off into the distance.

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Ben: Vic in my notes.

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Magic staff Zap zap, yeet.

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So I am right on board with you.

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Victor: Did, did we,

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Xhafer: my, my notes say Team

Jaffa is my episode notes are, team

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Jaffa is blasting off again, so

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Victor: Nice.

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and, and Ben, I, you know, I wanted

to ask you here , as a religious

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studies major, when these jfa

come in to meet this guy, I mean.

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When a fanatical zealot from a foreign

land shows up at your doorstep and opens

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a portal to hell, like what's what's

the, the ah, I'm missing words again.

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As soon as I get on pod,

my vocabulary starts.

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Uh uh,

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Xhafer: deteriorating.

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Victor: yes.

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What's the pre, pre preset?

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Pre What usually

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happens?

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What's the fucking word I'm looking for?

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Uh,

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Ben: um,

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Victor: damnit.

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Ben: so.

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Victor: This was a huge setup for a

joke that I just completely dropped

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the ball on, on the very last word.

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Ben: It is all right.

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It, it, it does get complicated.

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The, the portal to hell really

really is a big part of it.

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. Do find it interesting that the Jaffa are

all very much against it because you do

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find in some communities, and I'm gonna

say last time on the Free Jaff Jaffa are

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a, a big force now seems that they have

mostly thrown off the, the yoke of the ul.

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there is always a subset of any

people, if you look into like cults

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and stuff, who leave one cult and

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immediately join another

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because they like, they like

the the structure of it.

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They like the, the ability to have

absolute certainty and that, you know,

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they have that pre-disposition for that,

and that leads them into places where,

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hey, you don't have to question anything.

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I've already done all of

your thinking for you,

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Victor: a lot like the, how

psychologists talk about, or criminal

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psychologists talk about people who get.

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Who are like lifetime jail people.

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You know, once they get out, they can't

stand the real world anymore, so they

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immediately go commit a crime, they'll

get them locked up again, just 'cause they

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can't, they're used to being in jail now.

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So, yeah, I could totally see

that happening for Cultists too.

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It's, ugh,

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Ben: you may have run into this.

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People who can't operate

outside of the military.

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Victor: ah, yeah,

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Ben: I'm thinking of the, the, the

scene, like the scene in the, the

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Hurt Locker where Jeremy Runner

goes to the grocery store and is

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just like, I can't deal with this.

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Victor: Oh yeah,

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Yeah, Yeah.

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I've known people like that,

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Ben: so did you watch the

credits this time, your fair?

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Xhafer: I wa

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I,

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have, I've made a point of

watching the credits because it

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tells me who's in an episode now,

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Ben: yes.

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Sometimes.

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Xhafer: sometimes, and we get credits and

what the fuck is John Creon doing here?

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And where the fuck is MacGyver?

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Victor: Yeah, we've got one third, the

cast of Farscape ru running the show now.

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Xhafer: Right?

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Bridges.

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And I can't help but notice someone

isn't in the opening credits with an

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executive producer credit anymore either.

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Ben: Oh, RDA doesn't

have EP credit anymore.

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Xhafer: Not in the opening credits.

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At least I didn't stick

around for the closing.

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Ben: Oh.

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But I did notice, yeah, they have really

shaken up the cast here in season nine.

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Victor: Mm-Hmm.

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Xhafer: Uh, so, Valla is on base too.

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I,

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Ben: Vic, you get your

point Basketball scene.

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Victor: Yes.

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Xhafer: a basketball scene immediately.

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We've got two people from

Farscape in two episodes.

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I promise I have not seen this show, guys.

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Victor: Oh, speaking of we've got, I

should mention this in the opening,

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but I wanna give a shout out to Pam and

Anna, who I hope are listening right now.

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They've new listeners to the podcast.

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They just started on

episode one yesterday.

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And it's funny because she was, she

was texting me throughout the thing,

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like, you know, I was like, what?

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Seemingly asking random questions

and I'm like, oh yeah, this is

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shit I talked about on episode one.

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Ben: Oh.

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Victor: So it was like, in

real time I was like, what?

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Oh, yeah.

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Asking about Stargate and what happens.

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Like,

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Xhafer: yeah.

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Victor: something funny that she

mentioned, she, she's mentioned

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that this seems like a very, she'd

never seen SG one before either.

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And she started watching it and started

listening to our podcast and had

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said that it's a very human centered.

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Sci-fi show to where

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we are.

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The, we're the good guys

and aliens are the bad guys.

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And that's something you see less and

less of in modern Sci-Fi these days.

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And she was like, so does that continue?

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I'm like, well, fuck.

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I know man.

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I'm, I've seen 13 episodes of this.

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Your guess is as good as mine.

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Ben: It seems like it.

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Victor: Yeah.

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Xhafer: very much like if this show

were made 20 years later, it would be a

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Space force recruitment sponsored show

is definitely the vibe I get from it.

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Victor: Hmm.

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Xhafer: It's, it, it,

it's very pro-military.

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It in, in good ways and bad ways.

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But I'm not here to lay down any of

my super leftist commentary today.

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Ben: But,

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Xhafer: for my other show.

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Ben: So we've got general Boat

Bridges being like, Hey Jeff, I've

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got my own sci-fi franchise now.

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Suck it.

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Tron.

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What?

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And they get a message from a,

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Xhafer: time than you in sci-fi now.

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Ben: yeah.

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They get a message from a minor

gold named naris who is offering

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to work for SGC and S immediately.

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Like, no, don't trust that guy.

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He sucks.

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Victor: Something I, I made a note of in

the opening when the the Stargate opens,

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they get the text message from this guy

and Bo Bridges says, oh, it's in go old.

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Nobody here speaks.

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Go old, my motherfucker.

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You guys have been here

for nine seasons now.

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You haven't.

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Xhafer: don't have a translator.

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Victor: What the hell guys?

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Come on.

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Xhafer: put one together for

you in the last nine years.

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Ben: But he says he is offering

Intel and after sg SG one

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defeated Anubis they're in the big

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Xhafer: get.

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We get more than that.

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Ben: Yes.

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Xhafer: the table and they,

and DJ gives us the last time

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on they've defeated Anubis.

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The Replicators came in and defeated

a ton of the system lords, and

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then they defeated the replicators.

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So vis-a-vis, they defeated all Gaul.

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Victor: Yeah, so

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Ben: I have to ask everybody.

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They've mentioned the replicators,

but not what they are.

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So let's get weird with it.

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Victor: ah, you beat me to it.

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I just, so I put it in my notes.

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I was totally gonna do that

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Xhafer: I I anticipated

this and wrote down one

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Ben: All right.

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Victor: Alright, you go first.

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Xhafer: they're actual replicators,

like straight outta Star Trek.

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Victor: It's just food

dispensing machines.

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Xhafer: are, they are food dispensing

machines that have gained sentience.

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Maybe a little gray, gooey

but possibly we'll see.

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But they are, they are.

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Machines that make other

things that gained sentient and

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started fucking with things.

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And I do think that it is possible

they are straight from actual Star

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Trek because later in this episode we

see use of a teleporter, not a ring

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teleporter, but an actual teleporter

with very similar effects to Star Trek.

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And what my theory presupposes

is that they got this

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technology from the replicators.

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Victor: Dude, , that transporter scene

later, I swear it has the exact same sound

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effect as the original TOS transporter.

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Like if you go back and listen to it,

they, they copied and pasted that bitch.

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Xhafer: It even looks like

the movie one with the lines.

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Victor: yes, yes.

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The, the wrath of con sound

effect from the transporters, I

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swear it's this exact same one.

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Ben: Yeah, I made a comment last

time that it felt like they just

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wanted to start doing Star Trek.

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This is more of them just doing a

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Star

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Victor: another Star Trek episode.

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Okay.

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Ben: Alright,

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Vic, get weird with it.

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Victor: I think the Replicators

are shapeshifters, but I think that

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they are the kind of shapeshifters

that are from that horrible movie.

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I don't even remember what it was called.

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What was, what was the

title of Terminator three

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The,

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Ben: yep.

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Victor: one of those, it was the one with

Christina Loken, I think was her name.

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Ben: I think that's rising machines.

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Victor: yeah.

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Where, where she is a

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Xhafer: pops out of the

like holding the coffin

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of Linda Hamilton with a

mini gun in the other hand?

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Yeah, That's rise of the machines.

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Victor: yeah.

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I think the replicators are,

are shapeshifters that have the

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metallic thing, but they can

also like control machines that

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that's exactly what they are.

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Ben: See, I'm

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imagining that the the replication

is more they are able to split

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themselves off and have multiple

versions of themselves at once.

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So if one replicator gets into

your base, you're not entirely

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sure how many there are.

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But I'm going to say they figure out

that the more a replicator replicates

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the weaker it becomes until it's

able to get its other pieces back.

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And so they force all the replicators to

replicate a bunch and then they all die.

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, Victor: yeah, I, I was thinking that

there were, the new big bads they

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would've had a bunch of episodes where

everyone's suspicious of each other.

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Like, are you the real Daniel Jackson?

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Or are you a fucking replicator?

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You know,

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Ben: Yeah.

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Victor: of stuff like that.

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Precedent.

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That's the word I was

looking for 10 minutes ago.

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What's the precedent?

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Ben: Okay.

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Xhafer: Found it.

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Victor: Lemme see how good

my editing skills are.

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See if I can pull that off.

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Wait, when I edit this episode to make it

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Xhafer: You'd be surprised you.

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Like I have edited together segments

where I have pulled conversations apart

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and rearranged the order of things.

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I have like taken three minutes of

time out and moved some stuff to

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after other lines are said and things.

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And it all sounds seamless as long as

the structure of it is good And you don't

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have any like weird breaks where someone

stops talking mid word or something.

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That sounds unnatural.

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It will just be normal promise.

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Victor: Awesome.

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Well,

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Xhafer: Anyways,

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Victor: so where are we now?

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Xhafer: Uh,

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Ben: RIS shows up,

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Xhafer: through up through the

gate and man, I feel the same.

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He's like, he goes to Lieutenant,

Lieutenant Colonel Mitchell and

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is like, you are not O'Neill.

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He's as bummed as I am.

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I've,

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I've grown attached to O'Neill and

MacGyver in this show, and he's all

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like, no, he won't even be here.

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And I'm almost like, same.

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This isn't how I imagined this

episode going either, dude.

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Ben: And then he goes over to Valla

and he's like, you are not Carter.

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And she's like, no.

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Victor: No,

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Xhafer: Nope.

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Victor: it's like at least we got

Teal here who is the leader of the Jfa

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Rebellion, which I totally predicted like

in episode two or three of this podcast.

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So

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Xhafer: Yeah.

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Ben: absolutely.

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Victor: proud of myself for that one.

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And let's see.

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So, oh, and then he demands a lot of food.

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Ben: Yes,

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Victor: I got, I feel you, dude.

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Ben: we then get a brief scene of a bunch

of jfa just shooting at the force field.

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That is their only plan.

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They don't do anything else, just shoot,

shoot, shoot, shoot, shoot, shoot.

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And then we cut back.

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And RIS is enjoying his buffet.

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I love seedless grapes blow his mind.

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He's like, there's no seeds, but you

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need seeds.

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And I'm like, haha, we win

one on you space aliens.

519

We figured it

520

He also is able to, to turn off his voice.

521

Victor: Oh yeah.

522

I think, that's the first time we've

seen that I know it's the first time

523

we've three, three have

seen a gold or , whatever.

524

, being able to shut off their voice.

525

And some of the, some of the SG crew

are surprised as that as we are.

526

It's like, oh, you could

do that this whole time.

527

Xhafer: I need audience.

528

Dear, dear audience, I

need something from you.

529

Maybe even you, Vic.

530

I need someone to take this dude nearest

here and Photoshop him at that one state

531

dinner Trump had with all the fast food.

532

Please.

533

Victor: Yeah.

534

Oh, I'll do that later today

after I get done editing.

535

Xhafer: Thank you.

536

Ben: So Naris has a ho Oh, go ahead.

537

Xhafer: no, no, no, no.

538

Take it Ben.

539

I podcast enough.

540

I don't need to say a fucking everything.

541

Ben: so NES has this hologram showing

the, the, the force field, and.

542

We hear that SG three has checked

him out before they bring him here,

543

Victor: Is that

544

Ben: but he brought like

a magic hockey puck.

545

It's just like, how do you

know that's not a bomb?

546

Like, come on man.

547

I,

548

Victor: man?

549

Xhafer: Yeah.

550

He tells us of a jfa world Kalana.

551

That has this big shield

around it and it's Stargate.

552

And I was wondering if the show

had shifted over from doing just

553

a plots to maybe an A plot B

plot thing early in this episode.

554

And then this is the point where it's all

like, no, this is still a single plot

555

show.

556

Uh, the or I have kept a Stargate

open for two days, which is not

557

possible per normal power generation.

558

It's weird that they have a, like,

it's physically impossible to do it

559

for more than 38 minutes, but also

more power can keep it open longer

560

because those are conflicting ideas.

561

Ben: This made me very mad.

562

Xhafer: but whatever.

563

Ben: you wanna like show that the,

these or I are super, super powerful.

564

But like, if you're gonna write sci-fi

rules, keep to your sci-fi rules.

565

Find fun stuff to do

within the sci-fi rules.

566

Don't just be like, and these

bad guys can break the rules.

567

'cause that's dumb.

568

It's bullshit and it makes me mad.

569

Xhafer: Then it wasn't a rule.

570

Ben: yeah,

571

Xhafer: just like you, it can't

be impossible for a Stargate to

572

stay open for more than 38 minutes

because of wormhole physics.

573

Victor: Mm-Hmm.

574

Unless you have a

wormhole physics breaker,

575

Ben: yeah,

576

Xhafer: yeah.

577

Ben: I guess the, or I practice tantric

wormhole and can go for two days.

578

Xhafer: Ding.

579

Victor: Tantric Wormhole.

580

Xhafer: yeah.

581

Uh,

582

Victor: That's the name

of my next punk band.

583

Oh man.

584

Xhafer: So

585

this, teal is just like,

oh, so we're fucked.

586

Victor: Yeah.

587

How could we possibly fight

something so advanced, which

588

earlier during the meeting before.

589

Nera showed up.

590

I, I wrote down that I, I kind of got

the same vibe as Babylon five when

591

the New General Hammond is talking

about how the other goal see humans

592

as major players now, because we

defeated the replicators, we defeated

593

the GAL rule, we defeated Anubis.

594

And it reminded me a lot of the

attitude that the humans had in

595

Babylon five in the timeline after

they defeated the Dil guard.

596

They think they're all big and bad now.

597

We're major players, let's just

go fuck with them in Barri and

598

we all know how that turned out.

599

So

600

Xhafer: Mm-Hmm.

601

Ben: Yeah.

602

But, general land.

603

Yeah, general O Landry is calling O'Neill.

604

So we know he's still

alive and he's demanding.

605

Now Colonel Carter, this show

is just lousy with colonels.

606

So I guess I didn't know if

I go on to any military base.

607

It's just going to be some sergeants

and colonels walking around

608

Victor: I know

609

Ben: and then two guys who are not

technically part of the military.

610

Victor: Yeah.

611

And your and your journalist

from Warehouse 13.

612

Ben: Yeah.

613

But we do have a fun bit where O'Neill is.

614

I love that they're, even though he

is not there, they're keeping the

615

O'Neill character alive where he's

just breaking general Landry's balls.

616

He's just like, no, you can't have her.

617

I won't let her leave Area 51.

618

I don't care what you say.

619

I'm a general two.

620

Nope.

621

Nope.

622

Oh, she's at your door already.

623

Ha ha.

624

I got you.

625

Xhafer: Yeah, it must have been a

big promotion for him because he

626

was a one star general last time we

saw him, and he is bossing around

627

a two star general here, which

628

means he's theoretically

a three star general.

629

Victor: Geez, man.

630

O'Neill climbing those ranks, man.

631

Xhafer: So their plan is to Stargate to

a nearby world to the Prometheus and then

632

take the Prometheus the rest of the way.

633

And we do get that bit

about Carter at Area 51 when

634

she comes in.

635

And I gotta ask you, Vic,

636

Victor: oh, so what happened here

was, well, you remember how Carter's

637

dad wanted her to go to nasa?

638

Well, I'm gonna say that her, his,

her dad's dying wish was that she

639

quit fucking around at the Stargate

program and go to nasa and she was

640

like, look, dad, look all right.

641

I'm putting you on a medical transport

plane and we're going to area 51 and

642

and I'm gonna get a new job here.

643

Fine.

644

Just to shut you up, just to show you

all the cool shit that we have that

645

is way cooler than anything NASA has.

646

And, and while they're at area 51,

they're like, oh, your dad is dying

647

of brain cancer, or whatever it was.

648

Oh, well we've got an alien device that

we can wave over him and, and cure that.

649

So they, they wave the

alien device over him.

650

Dad's fine.

651

And Carter's like, Hey, look at

all this cool shit here, man.

652

We've got a Stargate 2.0.

653

Now I don't have Stargate 2.0.

654

That would be dumb.

655

They have, what's a cool thing

they have, they have the Jaffa

656

Yeet stick that the or I guy used

at the beginning of the episode.

657

He was like, this thing's awesome.

658

So yeah, that's what Carter's doing now.

659

She's working at Area 51.

660

Ben: Well, and we'd find out she

developed the RIA Super nuke.

661

Xhafer: This thing is terrifying.

662

We'll talk about it more later.

663

Ben: So we get our team which apparently

now it's allowed that there are you

664

can send five people outta a mission.

665

It, it, it's allowed 'cause

Carter's going along.

666

Xhafer: wouldn't work when you

put more than four people through

667

it, the way they treat this thing.

668

Victor: Right.

669

Ben: So they jumped to the Prometheus

that is not being run by General Hammond.

670

So I'm gonna say it last time

on General Hammond is gone.

671

Victor: Oh no.

672

Xhafer: Yeah,

673

probably.

674

I get that vibe.

675

He had a real martyrdom streak the

last couple of times we saw him.

676

So I would, we, like, we'd hear

about him leading missions himself

677

and doing all these things and Yep.

678

I, it, it was bound to happen,

679

Victor: You think he kamikaze

himself out of existence and was just

680

like had one final blaze of glory.

681

Xhafer: I'm sure whatever it was,

it involved probably a season

682

finale and a blaze of glory,

683

Ben: We also find out Valla has to

go because the effects are wearing

684

off from the bracelets with Dr.

685

Daniel Jackson.

686

So JI have to ask you what hop on her

687

Xhafer: So these bracelets are, there's

like a set of them and they each wore

688

one and they had to do it to escape some

kind of labyrinth puzzle thing, right?

689

They, they were trapped in a

thing, maybe they were captured.

690

And,

691

Ben: probably statistically.

692

Xhafer: these, these let them

like switch places or something.

693

And the long-term after effects is

that they can't be terribly far from

694

each other which we hear referenced

multiple times throughout this episode.

695

Victor: You sons of

696

bitches.

697

Gotta say.

698

I have to say I anticipated getting what?

699

Hop in here for the

bracelets, but not the area.

700

51

701

Xhafer: Ha.

702

Victor: I had a

703

Ben: see, I was gonna say they went to

Evil Mirror Universe, Claires and, and.

704

Xhafer: We know that there's

a mere universe episode

705

from a correct prediction.

706

We just haven't, we don't

know when or where, or why.

707

So

708

Victor: Yeah,

709

I was gonna say that Daniel Jackson

got drunk on Space Vegas and there

710

was a a hangover style episode where

he just wakes up in the honeymoon

711

suite with Valla and these bracelets.

712

And in this space Vegas planet, when

you get married, you're like joined at

713

the hip with these bracelets and you

can't be separated from each other.

714

So he is like, fuck,

what the hell did I do?

715

Ins all just like, hello darling,

716

Xhafer: Yeah.

717

Their relationship status on Facebook

is definitely, it's complicated.

718

Like.

719

When they are sometimes like they're

standing next to each other and it

720

looks like they're almost like cuddling.

721

And then other times they're talking

like they can't stand each other.

722

Ben: Oh yeah.

723

'cause we notice, I,

I, it jumped out to me.

724

Valla is wearing her tactical scarf.

725

And then when they get to the

Prometheus J Dan Jacks is just like,

726

Victor: take that

727

Ben: Hey, don't wear, don't

wear a, a tactical scarf here.

728

Like, have some decorum.

729

And it's like, come on man.

730

Also I did appreciate he's like

talking about, Hey, be cool here.

731

And she's like, I know this place.

732

I stole it once.

733

Victor: That was awesome.

734

That was the exact last

episode that we saw, wasn't it?

735

Xhafer: yeah.

736

Ben: Yeah.

737

Victor: Yeah.

738

Ben: We briefly cut back to Ris

eating at his at his buffet table.

739

And I noticed he's got goblets.

740

And I have to ask, we know he

sent forward a list of demands.

741

Did he demand goblets or was

whoever setting up the feast being

742

like, I don't know, hedonistic

alien, he's gonna want goblets.

743

Or I'm gonna say last time on,

we discover humans are the only

744

people who can drink from cups.

745

Everybody else demands it

must be wider than it is deep.

746

We can't touch this.

747

What are these cups?

748

How dare you?

749

This is Anma.

750

Victor: Yeah.

751

RIS seems like a goblet kind of guy.

752

Ben: Oh, it fits his whole vibe.

753

Victor: Oh, yeah.

754

Yeah.

755

Ja, I have to ask as

756

Xhafer: on making sure

that they drop nukes here.

757

Ben: Yes.

758

Victor: yeah.

759

Xhafer: he continually is like,

well, you gotta fucking nuke 'em.

760

Like you're gonna super nuke 'em.

761

Right.

762

Because you should totally fucking nuke

763

Ben: It's the only way

764

to be sure

765

Xhafer: you nuke them where I.

766

can see it.

767

Victor: He, he knows how

to manipulate Americans.

768

I gotta say, he is all just

like, you gotta nuke it.

769

Xhafer: Yeah.

770

Yep.

771

Yeah, him and John Sheridan are bros.

772

Victor: Jafer.

773

I gotta ask though, as a, as a brewmaster

like how does, does the, the diameter

774

of the, the receptacle affects the

taste drinking experience in any way?

775

Xhafer: sure does.

776

So, uh, how, how deep in the weeds

do you want to get right now?

777

Victor: Explain like, I'm five.

778

Xhafer: So, a lot of common

ingredients in alcoholic beverages

779

are sensitive to different aspects

of air, usually oxygen, right?

780

Like tannins, like, you know

how you let wine breathe, right?

781

Ben: No, you keep it in the bag and

then pour it right into your face.

782

Xhafer: exposure to, to the tannins

that changes the flavor, right?

783

Which is why you drink red

wine out of wider glasses

784

to increase the oxygen exposure of the

wine to bring out a different flavor.

785

Victor: Hmm.

786

Xhafer: Now if you were to drink it

out of like a, like glass that was

787

like an inch deep and like 10 inches

wide or something ridiculous, right?

788

You would over oxidize and it tastes

like you had left the wine out overnight

789

Victor: Yeah.

790

Okay.

791

Xhafer: quickly.

792

This is also why bottle glass

bottles have thinner necks to

793

prevent as much oxygen as possible

and keeping the seal small so that

794

there's less area for it to get exposed.

795

Victor: Fascinating.

796

Xhafer: So yes,

797

oxygen exposure does impact a lot of

alcoholic beverages and it does actually

798

make a difference in the flavor.

799

Victor: Now, now, now one.

800

One more question D.

801

Does the.

802

And of the Moscow Mule, the Copper Cup,

does that affect the flavor at all?

803

Because when I

804

Xhafer: Yes.

805

But not for reasons Why you want

to know about Well, I mean, I

806

guess you can know about it.

807

It's about the beverage

actually corrodes the copper.

808

It adds the, a metallic aftertaste to it.

809

Yeah.

810

No, you should not drink

out of copper cups.

811

It's really

812

bad for you.

813

Ben: That's why all of the, the

modern Moscow Mule cups actually

814

have a stainless steel insert.

815

Victor: That's good to know.

816

Because I was in when I was in California,

I got a Moscow Mule somewhere and it

817

came in a plastic cup and I was mad.

818

I was like, no, I want

the full experience.

819

But you're telling me that

was actually better than

820

Xhafer: it's, it's

821

healthier for you.

822

I mean, I think it's the kind of thing

where you have to have a ton of exposure.

823

You'd have to be someone who regularly

drank Moscow mules out of straight copper

824

mugs for it to be a actual health problem.

825

I

826

Victor: Oh dude.

827

My ex-wife was one of those people.

828

Xhafer: I am, I am not a doctor.

829

Do not take any of this

as actual medical advice.

830

Please do research.

831

Please talk to your doctors.

832

But it is a thing, like that's

why you're, you're not supposed

833

to drink outta copper cups.

834

No.

835

Ben: But unless she had a set of

copper cups that are very old okay.

836

Almost anything you can buy now

has the stainless steel inside.

837

So as somebody who I am, I'm the kind of

person where if I see a Moscow Mule on a

838

a on a menu, I'm ordering the Moscow Mule.

839

It almost everything.

840

You're not actually

running into the copper

841

Xhafer: it, it's kind of like

insisting on wearing leaded makeup,

842

Ben: Yeah.

843

Victor: is it, okay,

844

Ben: You have to go outta

your way to find it.

845

Xhafer: Yeah,

846

Victor: dumb question, but is

it the same with a Mexican mule?

847

'cause I, I prefer those with made

with tequila instead of vodka.

848

Xhafer: well, it's not about

the beverage, it's about

849

Victor: It's about the copper.

850

Okay,

851

cool.

852

I was wondering if just maybe

tequila had some kind of magical

853

property that negated the copper.

854

You

855

Ben: It does have a magical property in

that I, I often end up singing loudly but

856

Xhafer: Yeah.

857

Jen

858

Victor: We will find out

at STLV later this year.

859

Ben: I was so excited.

860

Xhafer: Yeah.

861

Speaking of which, we're

gonna do a game at STLV.

862

Victor: Yes,

863

Xhafer: Ben and I, I have to

talk with Ben about details.

864

I have, I have ideas for a

story, but I think Ben is a more

865

descriptive and better DM than I am,

866

and so I want him to run it,

867

Victor: Cool.

868

Xhafer: but I can, I can help with things.

869

Ben: Yeah.

870

I've never run STA, so I.

871

Xhafer: Yeah.

872

Victor: you're, man, you're

an experienced dungeon

873

master, the system is trivial.

874

You know, you can, you can run anything.

875

Xhafer: We'll, we'll get you up to speed.

876

Okay.

877

Okay.

878

Back on pod.

879

Victor: to Stargate.

880

Xhafer: The Prometheus arrives at Kalana

and they noted the atmosphere inside

881

the forest field has become toxic, and

that only the ORI prior is in the field.

882

They prepare to beam

down in some spacesuits,

883

Ben: Which I was bummed out.

884

They're old, like crappy space suits.

885

Victor: are some ridiculous space suits.

886

Yeah.

887

I'm glad I'm not the only

one who thought that.

888

'cause they, they look like they're

wearing metallic adult diapers.

889

Xhafer: I mean,

890

this show was made 20 years ago.

891

Ben: I know, but like,

they've got spaceships.

892

They've got stargates.

893

Like they just had people running

around in cheap plastic armor.

894

The last episode I expected it

to be a like, Hey, we just have

895

to put a helmet on our characters

and this is their spacesuit.

896

Victor: Yeah, I mean the, the

space suits in, in James Bond.

897

The one in Moonraker looked way.

898

Yeah.

899

They looked way better than this crap.

900

Like what are they doing?

901

Xhafer: They bring a nuke down with them

902

Victor: Oh, and this, or I, you know,

they talked to the or I prior guy

903

and I'm, I'm somewhat familiar with,

with Marvel comics, but does it seem

904

like this guy is the silver surfer?

905

Xhafer: In my notes I refer to

him as powder a couple of times.

906

But that's a super

907

dated reference and I don't even know, I

don't know how well that movie aged, so

908

Victor: Yeah, I don't know.

909

I just got silver surfer vibes from him.

910

He's a pale, bald guy who's heralding the

911

incoming

912

Ben: Galactus.

913

Yeah.

914

Victor: Yeah, so I, I,

915

Xhafer: That's, that's a good call.

916

That's a good call.

917

I like, I, I like that silver surfer vibe.

918

Ben: One thing we find out.

919

So they have the, it's the mark 11, right?

920

This

921

nuke Mark nine.

922

And it is a Quadra enhanced nuke.

923

Which means they figured out in

a Quadra, they figured it out.

924

Victor: yeah.

925

Yeah,

926

Xhafer: Okay.

927

So we'll, we'll talk about

this Nuke in a minute.

928

They give us some terms in a minute

of the size of the detonation.

929

Ben: Oh, did you do some math?

930

Xhafer: I did some math.

931

Maths some jfa ships rolling in

Blastin without warning though.

932

Victor: Dude, they come in full Leroy

Jenkins just dropping outta hyperspace

933

and just blasting the fuck out of the,

934

Xhafer: Yep.

935

They note that this could institute

a premature detonation of the

936

device and they get them to shot.

937

Stop.

938

And then the Jaffa hail the Prometheus

SG one Dodges the JAO Leaders questions

939

about how they know where this is from.

940

They can't be working with a Gould.

941

That'd be on friendly

terms with the free Jaffa.

942

Ben: Right.

943

Xhafer: And then they

talk about the super nuke.

944

It has a hundred mile

radius of evaporation.

945

This is insane.

946

Um, so a hundred kiloton yield

will evaporate about one mile.

947

The

948

largest device ever set

off and actually used was

949

a 50 Megaton Z Bamba.

950

Yes, I'm talking about Z Bamba

is a, was a 50 megaton bomb, and

951

it had about a six mile core.

952

Now, I did not have time to do

all of the actual math here, so

953

this is all vaguely inaccurate.

954

So sorry if you are a nuclear

physicist and I got shit wrong.

955

Ben: I am assuming it's a

956

Xhafer: I did not have the time to learn.

957

Yes, it is a

958

Ben: The amount of energy

959

Xhafer: I

960

Ben: have to go up.

961

Way, way, way.

962

Wait.

963

Yeah.

964

Xhafer: rate.

965

It's not an exponential rate,

it's an factorial rate, which are

966

exponential is a type of factorial.

967

So it grows at a non-standard rate.

968

So a six mile core at Za Baba had a 22

mile destruction radius, but the six miles

969

was where things were evaporated, right?

970

So a hundred

971

mile evaporation could be

several tens of thousands of

972

miles in its destructive area.

973

And I didn't have the time to

math out how many megatons it is,

974

but it probably moves past mega

megatons into a larger descriptor.

975

Possibly gigatons, possibly past that.

976

Ben: Oh yeah.

977

Xhafer: So yeah, that's fun.

978

Uh, it's a big fucking bomb.

979

They are right when they say the

shock wave could impact them in space,

980

Victor: Hmm.

981

Ben: And

982

Xhafer: right there.

983

That's very accurate.

984

Ben: Carter invented a bomb big

enough that Sheridan would be

985

like, I'll leave Dehi for you.

986

Victor: Nice.

987

Xhafer: the, the bomb goes off and the

energy is absorbed into the force field.

988

Pretty clearly.

989

It's growing

990

Victor: that was cool as shit.

991

Yeah.

992

Xhafer: a really nice effect.

993

Definitely the special effects budget

that did not go into animating the

994

Stargate earlier in this episode,

995

Ben: or the Prometheus.

996

Xhafer: or the Prometheus was spent here.

997

the Jaffa resumed firing when the

Forest fuel just starts growing.

998

The

999

Victor: Oh, did, did we,

00:38:24,743 --> 00:38:27,803

did we gloss over the introduction

of freaking Lou Gossett Jr.

00:38:27,803 --> 00:38:28,073

Here?

00:38:28,323 --> 00:38:29,103

Ben: Oh yeah, Garrick.

00:38:29,353 --> 00:38:29,773

Victor: Yeah.

00:38:29,942 --> 00:38:30,902

Xhafer: The, the Jaffa leader.

00:38:30,902 --> 00:38:31,412

Yes.

00:38:31,603 --> 00:38:32,083

Victor: Dude, I,

00:38:32,558 --> 00:38:33,558

I, come on, tell me.

00:38:33,558 --> 00:38:36,648

I'm not the only one in this, in

this podcast who watched Iron Eagle.

00:38:36,898 --> 00:38:37,248

Xhafer: Sorry.

00:38:37,298 --> 00:38:37,478

Ben: I

00:38:37,594 --> 00:38:37,684

Victor: Oh,

00:38:37,688 --> 00:38:38,648

Ben: not, I'm sorry.

00:38:40,412 --> 00:38:42,122

Victor: I freaking loved Iron Eagle, man.

00:38:42,122 --> 00:38:43,862

Lucas does how I know Lucas Jr.

00:38:43,862 --> 00:38:44,672

He's Chappy.

00:38:47,001 --> 00:38:47,091

All

00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:48,330

. Xhafer: When was this show?

00:38:48,590 --> 00:38:49,310

Victor: When was what?

00:38:49,779 --> 00:38:50,559

Xhafer: Oh, are you an Eagle?

00:38:50,559 --> 00:38:51,489

00:38:51,500 --> 00:38:51,680

Victor: Yeah.

00:38:51,770 --> 00:38:52,460

the the movie.

00:38:52,465 --> 00:38:54,800

it it was, it was The Poor Man's Top Gun.

00:38:55,050 --> 00:38:57,390

Ben: I will tell you

though, Lou Gossett Jr.

00:38:57,510 --> 00:39:02,160

Part of one of my favorite

weird I pieces of movie trivia.

00:39:02,410 --> 00:39:05,060

If I'm not mistaken, Lou Gossett Jr.

00:39:05,450 --> 00:39:08,930

Starred in the blazing Saddles TV show.

00:39:09,180 --> 00:39:11,370

Victor: There was a

Blazing Saddles TV show.

00:39:11,620 --> 00:39:13,210

Ben: They made two seasons of it

00:39:13,460 --> 00:39:15,680

and not a single episode was ever aired.

00:39:15,930 --> 00:39:17,770

The reason being so

00:39:18,020 --> 00:39:18,680

Xhafer: TV show.

00:39:19,130 --> 00:39:25,110

Ben: yeah, so, when they made the

movie part of that so, uh, uh, after

00:39:25,115 --> 00:39:27,780

they made the movie, they called

up Mel Brooks and were like, Hey,

00:39:28,030 --> 00:39:29,720

we're making blazing Saddles too.

00:39:29,720 --> 00:39:31,130

And he's like, no, you can't.

00:39:31,160 --> 00:39:34,490

I write it into all of my contracts

that if you don't do anything

00:39:34,490 --> 00:39:38,120

with the, the property for a

year, I get the rights back.

00:39:38,600 --> 00:39:42,800

And they said, ha ha, sucker, we've

actually been making a TV show.

00:39:43,050 --> 00:39:44,160

We didn't have to release it.

00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:45,750

We just have to be

doing something with it.

00:39:46,196 --> 00:39:47,396

Victor: Oh, that's evil.

00:39:47,475 --> 00:39:48,465

Xhafer: It is called Black bart.

00:39:48,465 --> 00:39:49,365

I'm reading all about it right

00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:49,770

Ben: Yep.

00:39:49,950 --> 00:39:56,280

So they made two seasons of a, a blazing

Saddles TV show starring Lou Gossett Jr.

00:39:56,550 --> 00:40:01,350

Where everybody worked, made a full TV

show, and they just never put it out

00:40:01,600 --> 00:40:02,700

Victor: That's, oh man,

00:40:03,009 --> 00:40:04,779

Ben: as a way of maintaining the rights.

00:40:04,779 --> 00:40:06,999

So they didn't revert back to Mel Brooks.

00:40:07,410 --> 00:40:08,645

Victor: that's damn.

00:40:08,895 --> 00:40:10,600

Xhafer: Okay, so one, I found the pilot.

00:40:11,095 --> 00:40:14,875

Ben: Yes, the pilot was later

released on a Blu-ray, but that is it.

00:40:15,125 --> 00:40:15,245

Victor: Oh

00:40:15,384 --> 00:40:18,084

Xhafer: two, apparently they

were lying about making the show.

00:40:18,084 --> 00:40:19,494

They only ever produced a pilot.

00:40:19,744 --> 00:40:20,944

Ben: Oh, okay.

00:40:21,194 --> 00:40:21,314

I,

00:40:21,564 --> 00:40:22,524

Victor: this is fascinating.

00:40:22,774 --> 00:40:23,134

Ben: all right.

00:40:23,164 --> 00:40:24,994

Well, this is not the Black BART podcast

00:40:25,244 --> 00:40:25,534

Xhafer: Nope.

00:40:25,784 --> 00:40:25,994

Ben: though.

00:40:25,994 --> 00:40:29,624

If we wanna do the 100 lives of

Blackjack Savage, I am on board.

00:40:29,874 --> 00:40:35,934

Xhafer: uh, so the they resumed fire

and Carter realizes that all of their

00:40:35,939 --> 00:40:39,384

fire is just strengthening this force

field until it envelops the planet.

00:40:39,634 --> 00:40:44,479

And then something comes out of the

Stargate a bunch of unmanned ships.

00:40:44,509 --> 00:40:45,799

They're very nondescript.

00:40:46,099 --> 00:40:50,709

Uh, the couple of them kamikaze,

some Java ships and the Prometheus.

00:40:50,959 --> 00:40:51,289

Victor: Hmm.

00:40:51,539 --> 00:40:53,339

Oh, when the Prometheus opens fire

00:40:53,449 --> 00:40:58,289

I gotta say I was very disappointed

, when Creighton orders the Prometheus

00:40:58,289 --> 00:41:02,069

to open fire, they specifically

mention charge the rail gun,

00:41:02,408 --> 00:41:02,948

Ben: We do not

00:41:02,969 --> 00:41:05,189

Victor: and we never get to see, we

didn't need to see the fucking rail gun.

00:41:05,198 --> 00:41:05,913

Xhafer: get to see the rail

00:41:05,913 --> 00:41:06,183

gun.

00:41:06,183 --> 00:41:08,043

Maybe it takes like a minute to charge up.

00:41:08,309 --> 00:41:08,879

Victor: Yeah.

00:41:09,129 --> 00:41:11,559

They'll launch a bunch of missiles,

which is kind of cool, I guess.

00:41:11,564 --> 00:41:13,449

But they bloop ball me on the rail gun.

00:41:13,954 --> 00:41:15,579

I, I demand a rail gun.

00:41:15,584 --> 00:41:15,954

Dammit.

00:41:16,159 --> 00:41:18,699

I was promised, I was

told there'd be rail guns.

00:41:18,879 --> 00:41:20,199

There are no rail guns in this

00:41:20,199 --> 00:41:20,709

episode.

00:41:24,969 --> 00:41:25,089

Xhafer: I

00:41:25,339 --> 00:41:25,609

Ben: so,

00:41:25,609 --> 00:41:29,859

we find out part of this it is

consuming the planet and the planet

00:41:29,859 --> 00:41:34,369

is turning into a black hole, which

kind of suddenly makes everybody like,

00:41:34,519 --> 00:41:36,919

kind of threatening the o Ori Pryor.

00:41:37,109 --> 00:41:40,889

He's like, oh, this was a suicide

mission from the very beginning.

00:41:41,189 --> 00:41:44,789

Like, Hey, you're gonna go start

this shield, and then the planet's

00:41:44,789 --> 00:41:46,289

gonna turn into a black hole.

00:41:46,619 --> 00:41:47,279

You're gonna die.

00:41:47,279 --> 00:41:48,239

You're going to ascend.

00:41:48,239 --> 00:41:51,609

And he's just like, man, I don't give a

crap what any of you idiots have to say.

00:41:51,609 --> 00:41:52,749

I'm about to die.

00:41:52,989 --> 00:41:54,999

Like he, he knew it was a one way trip.

00:41:54,999 --> 00:41:55,059

I.

00:41:55,309 --> 00:41:59,539

Victor: So, so this guy, the

silver surfer guy here, he's

00:41:59,539 --> 00:42:01,759

not an or I is what I'm getting.

00:42:02,029 --> 00:42:02,389

He

00:42:02,533 --> 00:42:03,998

Xhafer: ORI prior,

00:42:04,159 --> 00:42:04,729

Victor: yeah.

00:42:04,879 --> 00:42:07,999

So I'm guessing that means he's

a servant of the ORI or something

00:42:08,348 --> 00:42:09,218

Xhafer: presumably.

00:42:09,218 --> 00:42:09,578

Yeah.

00:42:09,608 --> 00:42:12,368

They don't, he doesn't insist

people address him as God, and

00:42:12,373 --> 00:42:14,168

he talks about ascending by

00:42:14,168 --> 00:42:17,228

serving the gods, so I would

assume he is not actually an ori.

00:42:17,509 --> 00:42:20,959

Victor: And, and, and I noted earlier

that when someone asked him about the

00:42:20,959 --> 00:42:23,119

ori, he referred to them as they, as

00:42:23,119 --> 00:42:27,239

opposed to we, so I'm thinking he's

not an I, which, I'm gonna say last

00:42:27,239 --> 00:42:32,129

time on, we discovered that the

or I are a race of whale people.

00:42:32,189 --> 00:42:33,179

They're space whales.

00:42:33,429 --> 00:42:33,969

Xhafer: That'd be fun.

00:42:34,295 --> 00:42:34,595

Victor: Yeah.

00:42:34,845 --> 00:42:35,415

Xhafer: I'll take it.

00:42:35,781 --> 00:42:39,196

Victor: I, I wanna, I want a final battle

to where they have to call in the tokra

00:42:39,436 --> 00:42:43,131

to fight the, the, the, space whales, the

turtle people versus the whale people.

00:42:44,480 --> 00:42:47,630

Ben: Well, I think we know that

the true enemy of the the whale

00:42:47,630 --> 00:42:49,430

people is the potted plant people

00:42:49,680 --> 00:42:50,730

Victor: Oh, no, not again.

00:42:50,980 --> 00:42:51,605

Ben: thank you, Vic.

00:42:52,025 --> 00:42:52,245

Yes.

00:42:52,495 --> 00:42:52,915

Xhafer: All right.

00:42:52,945 --> 00:42:56,345

The Jaffa piece out Valla is

like, Hey, what if we do this?

00:42:56,345 --> 00:42:58,625

Hey, what if we, and just

is consistently ignored.

00:42:58,835 --> 00:43:00,845

So she takes matters into her own hands.

00:43:01,095 --> 00:43:06,295

She rings over to the hidden cargo ship to

complete the super gate that the or I are

00:43:06,295 --> 00:43:08,845

now forming to bring their armada across.

00:43:09,175 --> 00:43:09,325

Ben: Yeah.

00:43:09,325 --> 00:43:12,325

They're trying to bring a

spaceship size Stargate.

00:43:12,575 --> 00:43:12,935

Xhafer: Yeah.

00:43:13,321 --> 00:43:13,621

Victor: Yeah.

00:43:14,131 --> 00:43:16,531

Which have we seen

cloaking devices before?

00:43:16,621 --> 00:43:19,351

Because she beams over and she

mentions that the ship was cloaked.

00:43:19,601 --> 00:43:21,671

Is this the first time we've

seen cloaking devices or

00:43:21,735 --> 00:43:22,335

Ben: I think so.

00:43:22,396 --> 00:43:22,901

Victor: something there?

00:43:22,991 --> 00:43:23,261

Yeah,

00:43:23,505 --> 00:43:24,645

Xhafer: I don't believe

we've seen him before.

00:43:24,650 --> 00:43:24,855

Yeah.

00:43:25,331 --> 00:43:27,041

Victor: well, I guess we wouldn't

have, 'cause they're cloaked, so

00:43:27,291 --> 00:43:27,561

Xhafer: Yeah.

00:43:27,811 --> 00:43:31,231

She tries to ring out at the last

moment and the gate is destroyed.

00:43:31,481 --> 00:43:33,611

Naris is in holding on earth.

00:43:33,761 --> 00:43:37,151

He was planning on ascending when put to

death, but they're not going to kill him.

00:43:37,421 --> 00:43:41,171

He's going to be held captive

and starved until he cooperates,

00:43:41,421 --> 00:43:41,711

Ben: Yeah.

00:43:41,937 --> 00:43:42,697

Victor: is cruel.

00:43:42,947 --> 00:43:44,177

No more chicken for you.

00:43:44,481 --> 00:43:47,141

Xhafer: I'm guessing Landry

was reassigned from Gimo.

00:43:47,506 --> 00:43:47,726

Ben: Yep.

00:43:47,976 --> 00:43:50,916

Xhafer: Mitchell asked Carter to

rejoin the front lines at Stargate

00:43:50,916 --> 00:43:54,341

Command, and I'm guessing she

does because Val's written out.

00:43:54,341 --> 00:43:55,901

So that brings our team four again.

00:43:56,151 --> 00:43:59,001

DJ is okay, despite them

believing Valla has died.

00:43:59,401 --> 00:44:00,986

But they don't think she's dead.

00:44:01,046 --> 00:44:05,226

They think she's just stuck in

the or I galaxy now to credits.

00:44:05,342 --> 00:44:08,552

Victor: Which that, that, that

scene of Daniel Jackson suddenly

00:44:08,552 --> 00:44:10,022

like fainting or whatever.

00:44:10,272 --> 00:44:13,902

It, it, it didn't happen until after

that they mentioned that Val is gone.

00:44:14,152 --> 00:44:16,562

Like, that's, that was some

of the worst acting ever, man.

00:44:16,562 --> 00:44:19,332

He was like, oh wait, I'm supposed

to be feeling the effects of

00:44:19,332 --> 00:44:20,652

early levy or some shit that,

00:44:20,902 --> 00:44:22,732

Ben: So, I'm gonna make

my guess right here.

00:44:22,982 --> 00:44:25,382

This is the setup for Stargate Universe.

00:44:25,632 --> 00:44:27,672

I'm gonna say that, that

that's what's happening.

00:44:27,972 --> 00:44:28,662

Valla is

00:44:28,802 --> 00:44:30,327

Xhafer: the Stargate Universe spinoff.

00:44:30,582 --> 00:44:32,352

Ben: yeah, this is, this

is how that happens.

00:44:32,352 --> 00:44:33,732

She's gonna be the lead of that.

00:44:33,982 --> 00:44:36,532

Victor: Yeah, it was just say,

there's no way she's actually dead.

00:44:36,532 --> 00:44:40,662

The these, no, they, they

foreshadowed it way too much.

00:44:40,662 --> 00:44:43,542

Saying like, well, she might

be over in the ORI Galaxy.

00:44:43,792 --> 00:44:44,812

She's not actually dead.

00:44:45,322 --> 00:44:47,692

As long as we remember her,

she's still alive, or whatever,

00:44:47,942 --> 00:44:50,942

Ben: she's still being weird

and creepy in our hearts.

00:44:51,192 --> 00:44:55,102

I did appreciate she has a bit where

she's just like, wow that thing is huge.

00:44:55,252 --> 00:44:56,002

And she's like, what?

00:44:56,007 --> 00:45:00,022

It is, it's not all innuendo,

it's, it's the, the shield is huge.

00:45:00,272 --> 00:45:00,812

Victor: I love her man.

00:45:00,817 --> 00:45:03,912

She is totally the opposite of her

character on Farscape, with the

00:45:03,912 --> 00:45:05,532

exception of the tight leather.

00:45:05,712 --> 00:45:07,302

See, she brought that over, apparently.

00:45:07,552 --> 00:45:10,552

Ben: All right, so Jair, how many

sgs do you give this episode?

00:45:10,802 --> 00:45:11,912

Xhafer: Wrong podcast.

00:45:12,298 --> 00:45:12,928

Victor: How many, how many

00:45:13,112 --> 00:45:14,312

Xhafer: them on a scale of one to seven

00:45:14,573 --> 00:45:14,863

Victor: Yeah.

00:45:15,062 --> 00:45:15,452

Xhafer: percent.

00:45:15,702 --> 00:45:20,742

But what I can do is give us a quick

dice roll and give me a moment to figure

00:45:20,742 --> 00:45:22,512

out what episode we'll be watching next.

00:45:22,572 --> 00:45:25,492

And while Vic, why don't you go

ahead and start pulling up our

00:45:25,492 --> 00:45:26,782

predictions from last time.

00:45:27,625 --> 00:45:28,375

All right.

00:45:28,625 --> 00:45:29,735

Ben: so season 10, episode six.

00:45:29,740 --> 00:45:30,395

What is the name?

00:45:30,645 --> 00:45:31,205

Xhafer: Morpheus,

00:45:31,605 --> 00:45:32,565

Ben: it Morbid Time?

00:45:32,815 --> 00:45:34,345

Xhafer: it might be moron time.

00:45:34,595 --> 00:45:38,345

It might be a Sandman crossover

though, on a mission to find a weapon

00:45:38,345 --> 00:45:42,165

that will defeat the power, their

powerful foe, the aura the team

00:45:42,165 --> 00:45:46,125

finds a planet whose inhabitants

were killed by a mysterious illness,

00:45:46,375 --> 00:45:48,295

Victor: no, not a bio weapon episode.

00:45:48,355 --> 00:45:49,165

Those are terrible.

00:45:49,415 --> 00:45:51,965

This was season 10 we're in

00:45:52,194 --> 00:45:52,554

Ben: Yep.

00:45:52,644 --> 00:45:53,664

Season 10, episode six.

00:45:53,889 --> 00:45:54,219

Xhafer: Yep.

00:45:54,219 --> 00:45:57,459

Season 10, episode six.

00:45:57,729 --> 00:45:59,209

Victor: Let me head down to the lab.

00:46:02,979 --> 00:46:03,759

I got the results here.

00:46:04,009 --> 00:46:04,459

. Okay.

00:46:04,459 --> 00:46:06,019

Who had valo never returns.

00:46:06,019 --> 00:46:06,319

You're wrong.

00:46:06,569 --> 00:46:08,729

Xhafer: I, well, I had

Valla never returns.

00:46:08,979 --> 00:46:10,239

Valla does return,

00:46:10,569 --> 00:46:12,369

and then Valla returns a lot.

00:46:12,530 --> 00:46:12,740

Victor: Yeah.

00:46:12,740 --> 00:46:17,350

So you got you got five points, so,

Valla and Daniel Jackson hookup.

00:46:17,350 --> 00:46:18,280

That was years then

00:46:18,479 --> 00:46:19,004

Ben: that was mine.

00:46:19,510 --> 00:46:20,260

Victor: Totally confirmed.

00:46:20,260 --> 00:46:21,190

So that's one point there.

00:46:21,700 --> 00:46:25,870

No points for Hammond rescued,

Hammond being rescued by the

00:46:25,870 --> 00:46:27,940

Atlantis crew that got actually zero

00:46:28,010 --> 00:46:28,350

Ben: All right,

00:46:28,600 --> 00:46:28,870

Victor: Yeah.

00:46:29,210 --> 00:46:30,975

But SG one did kill ball.