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Mari and Trey ansswer you questions and assumptions, covering their dating/engagement timeline, practical tips for intentional time together, Trey’s role running West Coast Catholic, the costs of public life and content boundaries, wedding registry essentials, encouragement for learning NFP with strong practitioner support, why some men don’t act on crushes, advice to create Catholic community, their tentative plan for balancing kids and work, and a fertility update.
02:19 Mexico Immersion Update
04:49 Ever Be Moments
12:03 Rapid Fire Assumptions
13:17 Marriage Time Tips
15:07 Work and Public Life
19:23 Sharing Life Online
19:51 Kids and Privacy
20:47 Registry Must Haves
23:55 NFP Without Overwhelm
26:59 Do Guys Get Crushes
29:31 Build Catholic Community
31:23 Business and Babies Plan
34:53 Fertility Update
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Hey, I am your host, Mari Wagner,
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beach or as they say in Mexico.
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showing off, but just It was.
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understand what he just said.
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or understands that, um.
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Colombian 100% Colombian and her
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want to raise our children bilingual.
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with her extended family.
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plan for me to learn Spanish.
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and there just being around Mari
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was time to just finally go and
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every day from 8:30 AM to 1:00 PM and then
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Spanish and doing a little Spanglish with
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working every day after school as well.
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Trey goes to school, I've been
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way he doesn't have to commute as far.
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I would usually explore and try some new
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in the evening, walk around, find a
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kind of chill the rest of the evening and.
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I've been just having really chill days.
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out, spending some time, praying,
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vitamin D I'm trying to soak up all
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and then putting some hours in of
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he has to work and so it's not.
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so then like I'm kind of saving some of
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don't, I try and do my best.
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with an ever be moment.
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work in your life recently?
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evening, two weeks ago.
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city and the first week of me doing
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evening, it was the end of a great day.
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and I was just sitting in the chair
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just filled with so much gratitude.
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and that we have the Lord has provided
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like this job and, uh, to be able to
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um, and to be able to do an Spanish
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with so much gratitude, um, and
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for, uh, for you, for our life and for
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yeah, it was just a really nice moment.
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but we have a family friend out here and
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Encounter Ministries out here in Mexico,
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Ministries, it's like a charismatic
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disciples who want to live life in the
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that was for physical healing
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prayer, and it was so beautiful.
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like that I think in a while.
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really besides seek mm-hmm.
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like that and Yeah.
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people praising the Lord and mm-hmm.
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praise and worship all in Spanish,
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praise and worship in Spanish.
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beautiful for me because Spanish is like.
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mother tongue, you know what I mean?
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speak Spanish really with my family.
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sing to the Lord in Spanish was like
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and just feel so old schooly.
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music meets Spanish worship.
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other and healing in different ways.
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smaller prayer groups if you
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was just really moving.
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what, two, two and a half hours?
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it just re-inspired me to just
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gonna give you, I'm leaving
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than I did, like Totally.
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to give me the gift of language to learn
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answering assumptions.
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idea what we were doing today.
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questions and or assumptions.
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since we did it and these are always fun.
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a bunch of 'em right now.
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or are these assumptions?
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then Trey, you can tell me like if any
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:How long did you date
before you got engaged?
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:Tips for intentional time
together with busy schedules.
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:Do you ever get annoyed constantly
having to film your life slash the
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:What does your husband do for work?
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:Uh, running registry and necessities.
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:Um, how is NFP going?
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:I'm getting married this year
and I'm overwhelmed by it.
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:Recent Catholic Convert and
so glad I came across ever be.
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:Um, do men experience interest
and crushes the same way girls do?
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to do finances together.
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finding a Catholic community.
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:Someone asking, do you mind
sharing an update on all the
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fertility update, um, how to find Good
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a business and having kids?
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living with uncertainty with.
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can't cope with uncertainty.
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control over this changed your
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were not thoughtful questions,
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questions that we've answered time.
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although I love that.
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think I wanna get through as many
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should just kind of rapid fire.
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on some of them, but, okay.
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only two assumptions.
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rapid fire, I feel like.
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finances together, but also it wasn't very
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a finance plan for life.
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got married, so it was all, so being
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we learned it together.
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before we got married?
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and a year and a half engagement.
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years of marriage and eight
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together with busy schedules.
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is protect your meal times.
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so we end up eating like all meals
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don't see each other throughout the
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and dinner, at the very least, dinner
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great way to start and don't, if you
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during the day, don't throw the TV on.
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during those meal times.
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your spouse where you actually get to hear
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your life and how you're doing and stuff.
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bed at night or like when you get into
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bedtime so that you are not dead, dead
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the couch, so that then you actually have
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chatting, um, before you go to sleep.
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to bed at the same time.
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who don't go to bed at the same time.
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pretty normal common for people.
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the same time, time unwind together.
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you can do that with your spouse
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least, a monthly date night and put
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anniversary, So you remember it easily?
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month and it's on the calendar.
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I do, uh, west Coast Catholic.
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the business side, the shop
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everybody thinks West Coast Catholic and
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Catholic for a long time.
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about like us and what we do,
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but a lot of people don't.
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be anywhere without Trey.
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absolutely everything else that I do.
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Coast Catholic together.
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as much involved as Mari and then.
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focusing more on her social
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all operations of the business.
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but, and management, team management.
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management, um, manufacturer
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finances, the whole, the whole thing.
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have a team, but yeah, that's what I do.
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her tech or operational things with her
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I've learned you're my guy along the guy.
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having to film your life?
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definitely been seasons.
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eight years now and sharing
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point it's the majority of my adult life.
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love it, I wouldn't be doing it.
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Centered Living homemaking.
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noticed or not, but I think over the
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starting out in content, Christian,
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started to notice what are parts or
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actually not willing to share publicly,
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so much more freedom to feel like.
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single part of my life.
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don't see behind the screen.
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to know like, what am I not sharing?
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I genuinely want to share and
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and there's just seasons where like,
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grace to take kind of a step back
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hard on myself about sharing X, Y, Z.
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flexibility with how social media
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and responsible to share while
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living a public life?
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yourself up to commentary.
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and people's opinions.
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commentary on people's opinions.
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knows h what everyone can handle.
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the little amount of hate and intrus.
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:That I get on my account in comparison
to so many people that I know.
472
:I don't know why.
473
:Great job you guys for being respectful.
474
:So thanks for just being so
amazing is what I'm saying.
475
:Like that comes down to my community.
476
:You guys are genuinely.
477
:Solid, great quality people.
478
:Thank you.
479
:Um, maybe I'm not posting controversial
enough content, which I don't care man.
480
:Like that's fine with me.
481
:Um, but that's helped me a lot to
like not wanna get off social media.
482
:I know a lot of people wanna get off all
the time because the more you share your
483
:life right, the more people comment on it.
484
:And that, that there has been a
little bit of that here and there.
485
:Of course.
486
:Yeah.
487
:And I think another aspect that's hard
too, and I think once we have kids in the
488
:future, we'll be navigating even more too.
489
:It's just kind of like, wow.
490
:It's going with what I was just saying,
like how much do you wanna be sharing?
491
:What are all the details
you wanna be sharing?
492
:So you just have to be more cognizant
about what you're posting on social media.
493
:Whereas a regular person whose
life isn't public, you don't
494
:think twice about what you post.
495
:Yeah.
496
:You're just like, I wanna share
this with my friends and family.
497
:So I post it.
498
:But now we live.
499
:In a dark world where nobody can share
pictures of their families with their
500
:kids because people do really creepy
things with the pictures of their kids.
501
:And so now I have to think about
like, gosh, when we have kids, like,
502
:mm-hmm I wanna share content of our
kids and show pictures and everything,
503
:but like, is that responsible or not?
504
:You know?
505
:So it just comes with an extra
layer of discernment and being
506
:prudent with what you're sharing.
507
:Okay, great.
508
:Good answer, ma.
509
:Thanks.
510
:Rapid fire, this one,
wedding registry necessities.
511
:Put the expensive stuff on your registry.
512
:Yeah, I think hundred percent.
513
:A lot of people shy away from
that because they feel bad.
514
:They're like, oh, like I don't wanna
make people feel like they have to
515
:buy the expensive thing or like,
I'm asking for the expensive thing.
516
:Like, no, put it on your registry.
517
:Well, and like the, they have
complete freedom to choose
518
:whatever is on your registry.
519
:Like they don't have to buy this.
520
:Exactly.
521
:What I'm saying is like,
put it on your registry.
522
:If someone doesn't wanna buy the.
523
:$400 item or the $300 item.
524
:They won't, I mean, don't put
only 500 items on your registry.
525
:Yeah.
526
:But like, have some variety.
527
:But yes, don't shy away from
just putting stuff on there.
528
:Yes.
529
:Like we put stuff on our registry,
we're like, we have no expectation.
530
:Like nobody's gonna ever buy this for us.
531
:And then like, somebody bought
it and we were like, what?
532
:Thank goodness.
533
:We all on our, all the most expensive
stuff on our registry got purchased.
534
:Yeah.
535
:Like the KitchenAid.
536
:And a mattress.
537
:A mattress.
538
:And that was hilarious.
539
:I don't even know what
the, the other things were.
540
:I know there were a couple
things on there that were like.
541
:500 bucks plus and like they
purchased it and we didn't expect
542
:it to, but we're like, we're
gonna throw it up just in case.
543
:And it was awesome.
544
:So.
545
:So a mattress?
546
:Mattress, definitely.
547
:Like, we didn't, I mean, we
were just college students.
548
:We didn't have a mattress, so
we threw a mattress on there
549
:and someone got it for us.
550
:Yeah.
551
:Uh, espresso machine.
552
:Oh, definitely.
553
:Must get a nice one.
554
:Get a bre.
555
:Frame tv.
556
:Ooh yes.
557
:A Frame TV is A Frame tv.
558
:So Fire.
559
:It's a great one.
560
:We, that's a fire one.
561
:Ooh, the Beast Blender.
562
:I love the Beast Blender.
563
:That's an Amazon.
564
:Yeah, yeah, yeah.
565
:You can get off another place
too and then get the fun things
566
:you're not gonna buy yourself.
567
:I already said KitchenAid.
568
:Oh, did I?
569
:You said that that was
an example as one of we.
570
:Oh, a hundred percent.
571
:Get yourself a kitchen or
put a KitchenAid on there.
572
:Super nice pans.
573
:Like super, super nice, really nice pans.
574
:I would just say really nice knives.
575
:Super nice kitchen equipment.
576
:So knives, pans.
577
:Uh, nice, uh, plates and
like, what's it called?
578
:Uh, plates wear serving platters?
579
:No, like silverware.
580
:There's like glassware.
581
:And then what's the equivalent for plates?
582
:Just plates.
583
:Plates.
584
:And bowls.
585
:Dishes.
586
:Dishes.
587
:Or like dishware, I dunno.
588
:Yeah.
589
:Dishware.
590
:Anyways, I would, I would
say like, put like nice.
591
:Dishware and, and plates
and serving plats.
592
:And then put the fun stuff that
you're not gonna buy yourself, but
593
:you can use for date nights and for
hosting, this is obviously coming from
594
:a couple who loves to cook and host.
595
:'cause we've mentioned like 90% kitchen
things, but like a, um, what's it
596
:called, fondue pot And pasta maker
or pasta maker is two things that
597
:we put on our registry where it's
like a pasta roller slash cutter.
598
:It's called a pasta maker.
599
:Um, we put that on a registry
and it's been so fun.
600
:One of our go-to double date nights that
I highly recommend when you're a newlywed
601
:couple is to make fresh pasta together.
602
:It's so easy.
603
:It's way easier than you think.
604
:Way easier than you think.
605
:And the pasta maker makes it so easy
to roll out the pasta and cut the
606
:pasta and it's such a fun activity
to get to know another couple.
607
:So we've used that one so many
times and it's nice 'cause you're
608
:like doing an activity so you're
not like forced to just like.
609
:Make conversational all time,
especially if it's somebody
610
:that you don't know very well.
611
:Um, the other one I was
gonna say is a griddle.
612
:We use a griddle very often all the time.
613
:Yeah.
614
:Okay.
615
:Uh, how's N Fs p going?
616
:I'm getting married this
year and overwhelmed by it.
617
:I freaking love NFP.
618
:I just like when I, it's funny 'cause
I was just about to say we don't like.
619
:Like in our situation, like
we don't have NFP anymore.
620
:Well, we, uh, in the traditional
sense, like, in like, oh, like the
621
:traditional Creon or Marquette method.
622
:Yeah.
623
:Yeah.
624
:We are not like doing that exclusively,
but, um, the, I loved doing, I loved
625
:learning about it, and I, I've heard
the story from other men as well.
626
:They loved, like being a part of
the class and learning about this.
627
:I've heard it from multiple men
that they've really enjoyed it and
628
:I, that was my experience as well.
629
:Um, and so why, because why?
630
:Yeah.
631
:'cause it, it gives men so much more
understanding into the women's body
632
:and their health and what's going
on and, and their hormones and like.
633
:Their health or hormones like
that is like largely affecting
634
:a huge part of their experience.
635
:And that then in turn
affects like your marriage.
636
:And it's just, it's incredible to be able
to like understand just like where she's
637
:coming from, um, where she's coming from,
but also like how to best love your wife
638
:in the different parts of her cycle.
639
:Um, and, and it was cool to
just like know okay, like.
640
:Like if you, once you learn it, you
can know a certainty, like when or when
641
:not to, like when, um, she's ovulating.
642
:So you know, if you're not to have a baby.
643
:So practically it was also very
practical when to have a baby.
644
:Yeah.
645
:Um, so I would say if you're
overwhelmed, I think that's normal.
646
:I think it's a lot of information.
647
:We were lucky that we had a really good.
648
:I dunno what you call it, practitioner.
649
:She's called a Creighton practitioner.
650
:Creighton practitioner.
651
:She's incredible.
652
:Melissa Grace Tabata will make
sure to link her in the show notes.
653
:Um, so you definitely
need a really good one.
654
:I've known people, or I've heard from
people who they just go to like a one,
655
:like group class and they just feel
like so confused and overwhelmed by it.
656
:I would definitely pay the money
to have like one-on-ones with
657
:the practitioner so that you can.
658
:Um, really understand it.
659
:We booked her full package and we met
with her once a month for like a year.
660
:For like a year.
661
:Yeah.
662
:And I think out of anybody I knew,
I felt the most confident on how to
663
:track my cycle because I was being
followed up with every single month
664
:for like a year from, from when we got
engaged to like, into us being married.
665
:Mm-hmm.
666
:And so it was really great to
have someone like walking with
667
:you and answering your questions.
668
:So, yeah, it's a little bit
expensive, but guys, it's so worth it.
669
:And like we spend thousands
of dollars on wedding stuff.
670
:Like this is worth the investment.
671
:Definitely.
672
:Anything else?
673
:I said a lot about that.
674
:Do you as a woman, have
anything you wanted to say?
675
:No.
676
:I love what you had to say.
677
:Okay.
678
:Um, the only thing I would say with
that is just that it gets easier.
679
:Like once you do it every
single day, it gets easier.
680
:Do men experience interests
crushes the same way girls do?
681
:If so, why don't they act on it?
682
:Uh, that's a funny question.
683
:Um, yes, definitely.
684
:I mean, I don't, of course, well, not,
I just crush on my wife every day.
685
:Well, dude, but, um, but like,
no, think back to like before
686
:you were married, right?
687
:Right.
688
:So like, I'll give the girls
experience and you tell me whether
689
:that's how you experienced it or not.
690
:Okay.
691
:I got it.
692
:I got it.
693
:Like that girl has a crush, sees
a boy in class, and is like,
694
:oh my gosh, he's super cute.
695
:Tries to kind of like steal looks
throughout like class to kind of make
696
:sure like that he is cute and every time
she looks she's like, oh my gosh, wait.
697
:Yeah, he is super cute.
698
:Like, I hope he's noticing me.
699
:Is he noticing me?
700
:Like, how does my hair look?
701
:Like?
702
:I hope I have a cute outfit on today.
703
:Like maybe, maybe he'll
talk to me after class.
704
:Like, is there a way I
could maybe talk to him?
705
:Drops pencil.
706
:He picks it up behind her and he's
like, oh, you dropped your pencil.
707
:And she's like, ah, yes.
708
:Point of contact.
709
:Then you leave class and you're
like thinking about him all day.
710
:You're like, oh my gosh.
711
:Like he was super cute.
712
:Like, I wonder if I have any
other classes with him, like,
713
:when am I gonna see him again?
714
:Like.
715
:Is he friends with anybody?
716
:I know.
717
:Like, and then you start talking
to your friends about it and
718
:you're like, okay, I have to tell
you about this guy in my class.
719
:Like, oh my gosh, you start
telling your friends about it
720
:and then, you know what I mean?
721
:Yeah.
722
:I would say the guys have the exact
same experience with one third of the
723
:thoughts and one third of the, the
words to experience to describe it.
724
:Okay.
725
:Okay.
726
:Fair.
727
:But I would say the
experience is the same.
728
:They're very, very similar.
729
:Um, like guys, definitely.
730
:Notice women, they definitely
like try to steal looks.
731
:They definitely like try
to like place themselves in
732
:similar situations or near them.
733
:They definitely get nervous
trying to talk to 'em.
734
:They definitely, uh, like think
about them when they're not with 'em.
735
:Oh yeah.
736
:So it's the same.
737
:I would say it's the same.
738
:So then the second half of the
question is why don't they act on it?
739
:So, and, and so this is where this
would, this would just pertain
740
:to men who don't act on it.
741
:'cause there are men that do.
742
:Mm-hmm.
743
:But if a guy's not acting on
it, why do you think that is?
744
:One, I would probably say it's just
either insecurity, they're just timid,
745
:they're afraid they're, they have had
poor experiences in the past that makes
746
:them more scared to do it in the future.
747
:Um, maybe they think you're
out of their league, down.
748
:Maybe, maybe you're out of their league.
749
:Maybe they don't think that you're
gonna reciprocate the feeling.
750
:Like I would say it's pretty
much all the same reasons.
751
:Fear all the same reasons that a woman
wouldn't like want to make the first
752
:move is like the same reasons a guy
doesn't want to make the first move.
753
:Like it's just.
754
:Fear.
755
:So fear of rejection.
756
:Yeah.
757
:Oh, let's see.
758
:Let's see.
759
:I feel so discouraged
finding a Catholic community.
760
:Any advice?
761
:The advice is created.
762
:Like you can look all you want,
but if there isn't one, then you
763
:just gotta be the one to create it.
764
:Sorry.
765
:Like That's so true.
766
:But like you just, some people
have to be the ones to create it.
767
:And Mar and I have learned this So true.
768
:It's like we would sit around and
wait for invitations and wait for
769
:invitations and they don't come.
770
:And so then we just had to
be the ones to invite people.
771
:We would have to create the community.
772
:Yep.
773
:Like literally within our first
year of moving to Colorado,
774
:we started a marriage group.
775
:We, I started a bible study and we
started hosting monthly dinners.
776
:That was in our first
third year living there.
777
:Yeah.
778
:And yeah, but like we extended
a lot of invitations in between.
779
:Yeah.
780
:And we kind of just stopped
waiting for invitations to come.
781
:Yeah.
782
:Went out.
783
:Yeah.
784
:Stopped and found the people that
we connected with here and there,
785
:and then brought them together.
786
:So like all the girls in my
Bible study didn't actually
787
:have a relationship beforehand.
788
:Maybe some like knew of each other, maybe.
789
:Some were friends, but actually like most
of them didn't have a relationship with
790
:each other and certainly not as a group.
791
:But I had just connected with them
over the course of like a year, year
792
:and a half individually, and I made an
invitation to bring 'em all together.
793
:Yeah, these are all my favorite people.
794
:Let's just bring 'em all together.
795
:And now they're all friends and now they
like do stuff together, which is fine.
796
:Yeah.
797
:Yeah.
798
:So it's hard.
799
:But yeah, you can't just wait
for things to come to you.
800
:You have to go make the thing happen.
801
:Um.
802
:And yeah, I don't know
what else I was gonna say.
803
:I mean, but also like check
with your parish if there's
804
:some sort of young adult group.
805
:Oh, of course.
806
:Yeah.
807
:And really it just starts with
one person and it just takes time.
808
:You find one friend, they are bound
to have another friend that could
809
:fit in the group, and then they're
bound to have another friend.
810
:And so it's just kind of
slowly meeting mutuals.
811
:You just have to put yourself out there
and be willing to invite yourself to
812
:things and invite other people to things.
813
:Yeah.
814
:Okay.
815
:An inspiring entrepreneur here.
816
:What is your plan with running
a business and having kids?
817
:Great question.
818
:Um, we're, well, we're lucky
because we did it together.
819
:Yeah.
820
:Yeah.
821
:We're gonna have an awesome setup I think.
822
:I think so.
823
:And I hope, um, 'cause
we're both gonna be at home.
824
:Mm-hmm.
825
:So we're both going to be.
826
:Slightly available and flexible, but our
current plan, not even like experiencing
827
:kids yet, so it obviously could shift, is
that I'm gonna go down to part-time work.
828
:Trey will stay full-time.
829
:Mm-hmm.
830
:So I'm gonna be mostly with the kids.
831
:Um, and in order for me to be able to
do part-time, we're likely going to hire
832
:a nanny slash like family assistant.
833
:Mm-hmm.
834
:And so this person will probably
take the kids for a couple
835
:hours, um, a few days a week.
836
:And allow me to have some
time to work and then.
837
:Also help with some home chores.
838
:Honestly, like my goal would be for this
person to clean our kitchen and do the
839
:dishes every morning after breakfast,
and then like prep the lunch for us
840
:to be ready during lunchtime, spend a
couple hours with the kids, um, maybe
841
:even do some errands, like mm-hmm.
842
:Shipping returns or
groceries, stuff like that.
843
:I literally think there is no shame
in getting help for household tasks
844
:or day-to-day things, and I think
that a lot of people feel like.
845
:Oh, that's really snobby of you to
like outsource your grocery shopping
846
:or like have someone help you prep
lunch, like No, honestly, it's just, I
847
:know what is it within my capabilities
where, what does my time allow me to
848
:do and I rather spend the extra time.
849
:That I have with my
kids than doing dishes.
850
:Yep.
851
:Um, and if we have the ability and means
to have a nanny come in and support with
852
:some childcare inside the home so we don't
have to do daycare and then even, and so
853
:that things, and so that like you're able
to work, which is providing the income.
854
:Well, that's the only reason we were
getting it is so I'm able to work.
855
:Exactly.
856
:And for us, it's like we
own our own businesses.
857
:Like I'm an integral
part of our businesses.
858
:Right.
859
:And I love what I do.
860
:If I had a regular nine to five, I'd
probably quit and be a stay at home mom.
861
:'cause I am dying to be a mom.
862
:But like, because I absolutely love
what we do and I'm so passionate
863
:about all of our businesses.
864
:Like I love work, so I
hope to work part-time.
865
:Mm-hmm.
866
:And then mom the rest of the time,
um, mom, most time honestly, it is
867
:like working just what, like a couple
hours a day on a few days a week.
868
:And then mom Yeah.
869
:Most of the time.
870
:But obviously when kids come,
I'm, we'll see what happens.
871
:It's gonna be like learning
to balance it all and Yep.
872
:See what's working for our family.
873
:But, and, and I will just say we've
been, and my parents are hopefully
874
:moving to Colorado, hopefully.
875
:Yep.
876
:So I really, yeah, we'll have,
and my parents are near us and so
877
:it'll be, we'll have a lot of help.
878
:Yeah.
879
:Um, the other thing too is we've
been very strategically running the
880
:business and creating processes and
systems and people so that Mari can go.
881
:Part-time.
882
:Like we've known this for the,
for a while, like for a long
883
:time that we've wanted her to go
part-time when we've had kids.
884
:And you know, we haven't been blessed
or had kids yet, but we, it's allowed
885
:us to have a little bit more time to
make the hiring decisions and to like
886
:outsource the activities that need to be
outsourced or to create more processes
887
:in the business so that it's possible.
888
:So we've been planning
for this for a while.
889
:Yeah.
890
:Okay.
891
:Last thing to end on is I feel
like a little fertility update.
892
:Sure.
893
:Um, so.
894
:I've been working with my doctor for about
a year now and trying different things.
895
:Um, well, the current
doctor for about a year.
896
:Yeah.
897
:My current doctor, I
switched doctors a year ago.
898
:Mm-hmm.
899
:Um, this is one of those things, and
you may or may not have noticed, I don't
900
:share the details of the medical journey.
901
:Like a lot of people go online and
they share exactly what they're.
902
:Dealing with, and I think that is super
helpful for women who are going through
903
:the same thing to kind of learn about it.
904
:Right now, in this moment of our
journey, I don't share the medical
905
:details of what we're doing and what
the results are and what we're finding.
906
:Um, maybe I will in the future one
day, but I don't feel like that's where
907
:the Lord is giving me peace right now.
908
:So I'm not gonna share specific details
of what we're doing or finding, but.
909
:I've been working with my doctor
in the, for the past year and, um,
910
:I will share, like we were doing
some hormone work and like things
911
:were improving, largely supporting
it with natural, um, diet stuff.
912
:Biggest thing that I've seen make
a difference is cutting out as much
913
:sugar as possible and bad carbs.
914
:So do your research into that.
915
:If, um, this is something you're
struggling with and ask your doctor
916
:about it, but it's crazy, the impact.
917
:Sugar and bad carbs has, and just your
diet has, like, it was pretty fast.
918
:How quickly we're able to see the impact
results and the like benefits of cleaning
919
:up the diet in a month and removing sugar.
920
:Yeah.
921
:So, um, yeah, I mean there's definitely
hope and our doctor has never said
922
:that we're not able to have children.
923
:Like she has a lot of hope for us and
there's more things that we can try.
924
:Um, but we do have a podcast episode
coming up pretty soon where we're gonna
925
:dive a little bit more into depth of, um.
926
:Fertility updates that
we do wanna share about.
927
:So that'll be coming soon.
928
:And yeah, so stay tuned for that.
929
:I'll leave you with that now.
930
:Great.
931
:I don't feel like we're gonna do an ever
be answers because this whole episode
932
:was Yeah, I think that's ever be answers.
933
:I think that's great.
934
:So that's that.
935
:And we'll catch everybody who's on
the Kingdom Club at the after party.
936
:If you're watching, you can see the cute
little Kingdom Club hat that I have on.
937
:So if you wanna see what that's
all about, join our Patreon.
938
:You can click the link in
the show notes to join.
939
:You get to see the video of every single
one of these episodes, and then join
940
:the after party, which is where Trey
and I answer a couple more questions.
941
:Just for our Kingdom Club listeners
and a monthly live bible study with
942
:your, oh my gosh, Shirley Mari, right?
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:That's like the biggest thing,
the biggest selling point.
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:You get a monthly live Bible study that
I lead every month, and it's actually
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:so fun you guys like, and it's fun
because at this point it's a consistent
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:group of girls that are coming.
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:So we all kind of get to know each
other a little bit more and get
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:to hear about each other's lives.
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:We get to pray for each other.
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:Within the Bible study, we have
prayer partners, so every month
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:you get paired with another girl
and you can connect with her and.
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:Share your prayer
intentions for the month.
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:Um, and it's been awesome.
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:I just like love ministering
to you guys in real time.
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:So to everybody who is in the
Kingdom Club, thanks for supporting,
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:thanks for showing up, and I hope
to see so many more of you there.
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:Now that's all we got for now.
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:The sun is coming down and
yep, it's probably really
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:dark darkness right now, so.
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:All right, see ya.
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:Bye.