In this episode of The Fifth Hammer Growth Podcast, Spencer, Dave, and Ryan dive deep into the difference between planning and plans. They explore the harmony of disruption and discipline, and how it relates to the fifth hammer and the balance needed for successful strategic planning. They share personal experiences and insights, expressing both the value of careful planning and the need for flexibility and adaptability in the execution of those plans. Through their discussion, they highlight the importance of finding the right balance between disruptive elements and disciplined planning to achieve success. Stay tuned as they explore the nuances of planning and plans and the pivotal role they play in achieving organizational growth and personal development.