What if we met our anxiety WITH anxiety? When we struggle with anxious feelings and thoughts we usually look for control and certainty to calm down- but what if we don't need to calm down? What if our anxious feelings and thoughts don't need our calmness but to be rerouted instead?
What if we in order to better handle our anxiety- we shifted the focus of our ruminations and intrusive thoughts to something...less personal than ourselves?
In this episode Erez explores this and how it has shown up in his journey with anxiety.
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Speaker:I am Erez Shek and you are checking in with The Shek Check- the podcast
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Speaker:So I read somewhere that a lot of people who struggle with disordered
Speaker:anxiety, like myself, have a tendency to watch TV shows or movies that
Speaker:they have already watched before, because the familiarity soothes them.
Speaker:That knowing, you know, what happens next in the TV show or
Speaker:movie doesn't excite them right?
Speaker:Doesn't get them revved up, but rather grounds them.
Speaker:And I can definitely relate to this, you know, like a lot, there is something about
Speaker:knowing the certainty of something- when your thoughts are trying to find solutions
Speaker:to the uncertainty all around you.
Speaker:So of course, you know, something that you are familiar with that provides
Speaker:you that certainty- a familiar story with familiar characters will bring
Speaker:on thoughts and feelings of safety.
Speaker:You know, I actually remember that as a kid, I had a lot of issues with insomnia,
Speaker:which is actually an understatement.
Speaker:Um, I'm, I'm not really entirely sure how much sleep I got growing
Speaker:up because there was just an overwhelming amount of sleepless
Speaker:nights filled with fear and anxiety.
Speaker:The truth is I had trouble with intrusive thoughts and rumination, and eventually
Speaker:I convinced my parents to let me sleep by the TV and eventually got a TV in
Speaker:my bedroom because having the TV on gave my mind a chance to quiet down.
Speaker:Like not so much quiet down actually, as much as it shifted the focus away from
Speaker:my intrusive thoughts and ruminations and onto the noise and the voices
Speaker:and the stories of the characters on the TV shows that I fell asleep to.
Speaker:Obviously it wasn't a hundred percent effective, but a lot better than just
Speaker:what my thoughts were kind of coming up with in regards and in relation
Speaker:to myself, which can be very scary...
Speaker:especially as a child.
Speaker:Obviously a lot of sleep hygiene information tells us that it is not
Speaker:the healthiest thing to do to, uh, fall asleep with the TV on at night,
Speaker:or, you know, as you sleep, not the point, uh, in this conversation, but
Speaker:definitely an important thing to consider.
Speaker:And I will make sure to put some great sleep hygiene resources to check out on
Speaker:the blog post for this episode on the Shek Check dot Com, because it is something
Speaker:that I now, as an adult find helpful as a kid, I probably would've laughed in your
Speaker:face because nothing was gonna quiet, those thoughts and those ruminations and
Speaker:that intrusive nature that I had as a kid.
Speaker:Moving on.
Speaker:So a variation right on, on watching the TV shows or the movies, uh, of familiar.
Speaker:When you are struggling with anxious feelings and thoughts, right?
Speaker:It is great because again, you are, you know, watching something that
Speaker:you are already familiar with and it does bring you feelings of safety.
Speaker:Definitely see how that works and that definitely has its place for
Speaker:me when it works as a coping skill.
Speaker:Another coping skill is something I found for myself, as an adult, was watching
Speaker:horror movies and thriller movies.
Speaker:Actually, they help a lot with me and my anxiety and this shocks most people
Speaker:because how can something that engages with fear be helpful or calming, right?
Speaker:Like horror movies and and thriller movies and suspense movies- they kind
Speaker:of live for you to be on the edge of your seat and they live and they
Speaker:kind of exist in that fearful place.
Speaker:How can something that engages with fear and anxiety be helpful or calming?
Speaker:And to be clear, I don't think that they are calming.
Speaker:I don't think those movies, horror movies and thriller movies and suspense movies
Speaker:are calming, but I also don't think that helping my anxious feelings and my anxious
Speaker:thoughts need to be soothed with calmness.
Speaker:Feelings of anxiety don't necessarily need us to simmer down or to sit in silence
Speaker:or to be calmed or to calm ourselves.
Speaker:Hear me out on this one.
Speaker:I think sometimes when we are feeling anxiety and having anxious thoughts,
Speaker:calming ourselves might not always be an answer or a solution or an appropriate
Speaker:coping skill that suits that situation.
Speaker:Sometimes that anxious feeling and anxious thought- they just need to be redirected.
Speaker:A detour perhaps, you know, not necessarily a slowing down but something
Speaker:that takes that energy and, and kind of moves it into a different direction or a
Speaker:new direction, a, a less inner direction.
Speaker:Again, for me, horror movies have provided that.
Speaker:You know, this is not like all the time.
Speaker:This is not what will always work for my anxiety in every anxious moment,
Speaker:in every kind of anxiety thought storm or anxious feeling storm.
Speaker:You know, like, it's a read the room type thing.
Speaker:Like your internal room.
Speaker:When I watch horror, thriller or suspense movies- it can help
Speaker:my anxiety on a few levels.
Speaker:So, number one, if I am in a rumination pattern or like, you know, anxiety hold-
Speaker:then I am most likely trying to solve something from my past or solve a bunch
Speaker:of predicted problems in the future.
Speaker:Or I am fixated on a current problem and trying to find safety
Speaker:and certainty within all that..
Speaker:But all of that is based in puzzles and mysteries and things to solve and
Speaker:trying to do that doesn't really do much for me except stress my system.
Speaker:Because trying to solve potential problems and old problems and fixations-
Speaker:the rumination- that doesn't do great things for your nervous system.
Speaker:Even though your nervous system is literally driving it..
Speaker:So being aware of that and trying to be aware of how I'm feeding the
Speaker:anxious feelings and anxious energy.
Speaker:Where can I kind of move that too?
Speaker:What can I do that is productive?
Speaker:And for me being aware of that, knowing that a horror movie or a suspense
Speaker:movie is going to take that for me.
Speaker:Like those characters in those movies- they got shit that they're solving too.
Speaker:Let me be a part of that.
Speaker:Let me get invested in, in their puzzles and their mysteries.
Speaker:Let me shift that energy into their shit.
Speaker:Let that anxiety exist, but shift its attention to something outside of myself.
Speaker:Outside of my puzzles, mysteries and uncertainties.
Speaker:Let my energy exist for their puzzles, their mysteries and their uncertainties.
Speaker:Like my intrusive thoughts and ruminations don't need to be engaged with.
Speaker:So where can I put that energy instead?
Speaker:Another aspect of those movies is that I see those characters dealing with
Speaker:their own anxiety and, you know, as they fight for their lives or their
Speaker:friends' lives or, you know, running from men with chainsaws or women
Speaker:cooking bunnies or a dude eating fava beans in someone's liver or whatever.
Speaker:They are all on the edge of their seats.
Speaker:They're all in a state of fear and a state of anxiety.
Speaker:And as much as that sucks for them, like it actually taps into my own
Speaker:feelings of compassion for them.
Speaker:Like I don't get joy from their struggles, their fears and their anxieties.
Speaker:Like that would be screwed up.
Speaker:That would be massively, like, just screwed up if I did.
Speaker:But the detour here for me is that I can meet their struggles with softness.
Speaker:I can see that I'm meeting their struggles with softness and and care.
Speaker:And that detour is helpful for me because I'm, in some form, reminding that I
Speaker:can meet myself without same softness.
Speaker:That I could be like, yo, this anxiety, these anxious thoughts and feelings.
Speaker:I that's something like, you know, be gentle with yourself as you're,
Speaker:as you're struggling with that.
Speaker:If I can meet their shit with my care and empathy and compassion.
Speaker:Then I can also provide that to myself.
Speaker:And that is a helpful reminder, right?
Speaker:Sometimes that reminder is important because when we're
Speaker:struggling- it is very forgettable.
Speaker:So yes, surprising that that horror movies can help with anxiety.
Speaker:Again, it's for me.
Speaker:I think there's a lot of stuff out there that speaks to an overview of people.
Speaker:But we are still individuals and discovering what has worked for us, uh,
Speaker:is a discovery for each of us and what has worked for us, what is working for us
Speaker:and maybe hopefully finding other things that can work for us and that's important.
Speaker:And sometimes that is away from the typical worn out path and the
Speaker:typical self-help books out there.
Speaker:And sometimes it's not because there's a lot of great things out there.
Speaker:You just have to pull and pick what works for you and also be
Speaker:willing to discover new things.
Speaker:Something to think about just another perspective that hopefully
Speaker:sparks some exploration for you.
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