Market beatings will continue until the war ends. I discuss why I think markets can no longer avoid the war or the inflation it is causing.
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All right.
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:Welcome back to another
Daily Discernments.
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:we got to the point we got
to the point where it's too
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:much to not talk about today.
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:the title of this one is Beatings Will
Continue, and that is because I think when
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:it comes to markets, beatings are, will
continue until the war ends at this point.
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:You know, we've been able to
largely ignore the war from
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:the, a market standpoint.
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:O-obviously, like oil and, has had
big ups and downs along the way.
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:but equities, eh, they didn't really have
to care until really, really recently.
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:You know, like bonds had to, had to like
respond somewhat to energy prices, but it
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:wasn't, it just wasn't that big a deal.
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:I think we've got to a point, and it
kinda really started with the first
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:day Secretary Bessent jumped into
start messing with the bond market
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:whenever he got to about whatever
it was, four point seven, I think
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:it was, on the thirty years, kinda
when, when he jumped in and got…
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:Or maybe I'm thinking of the ten year.
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:But a little activist, let's say, in
trying to get, yields down and had
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:to subsequently follow that up and
follow that up to try to kind of put
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:the, the toothpaste back in the tube.
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:Now he may wanna take it back out.
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:since, since Druck's op-ed came out,
he You know, ha-hasn't been nearly as
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:forceful, if anything, kind of backed off.
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:But, you know, now that you got the
ten-year getting pretty close to
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:not just, you know, the prior highs
from twenty twenty-three, taking
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:that out, but, I mean, you're close
to being back to, like, '02 levels.
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:You're, like, two bad days,
maybe even one really bad day
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:from being at, like, '02 levels.
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:so this is, this is getting
problematic quickly.
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:and a lot of it's obviously on the
back of what's going on with the
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:war and what's going on with energy.
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:And I think we've kinda run out of runway.
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:If, if people that listen to the Daily
Dots as well, if you go back, I don't
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:know, two, three months, whatever,
I kept saying, like, "Look, there,
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:there are very real reasons that oil
isn't, like, spiraling out of control."
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:chiefly among them, hey, China,
like, stopped buying massively, like
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:huge amounts of, of oil they stopped
buying, which basically papered over,
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:like, three-fourths of the problem.
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:And then you throw in, you know, what
you're sneaking out of the Strait, what
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:you're, what you're bypassing, and it's
like, okay, well, that makes sense.
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:Like, you went from what looked
like a, you know, ten million barrel
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:a day problem to, two or three
million barrel a day problem, which
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:is a much, much smaller problem.
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:But I kept saying, like, there's
three things holding this together.
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:You know, we-- you have SBRs,
you have bypasses and s-- and,
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:and what you're getting out of
the Strait, and you have China.
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:The point I kept making back then
when everyone was, you know, making
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:fun of people that were bullish
oil because they thought, you know,
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:like, well, if politicians want
it to be low, it'll be low, and
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:there's nothing you can do about it.
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:Well, they still want it to be low
when it's a hundred bucks, right?
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:Like, sorry, but markets still work.
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:Oil supply still matters, as I, you
know, kept saying on Twitter, like-
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:The, the, the problem now is, well, you
still have an SPR lever you can pull.
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:Like, that's not over, and
I think they will pull it.
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:They, they said, whatever, like a month
ago, like, "Nope, we're not doing that.
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:We're not gonna do any more."
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:They will.
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:They're gonna, they're gonna run
the thing down till nothing's left
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:if, if the war keeps going 'cause,
you know, it's politically expedient
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:short term, and as we've probably all
learned by now, whatever's politically
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:expedient short term, who cares
about the long-term consequences?
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:Let's, let's pull that lever.
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:So they will.
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:So like that, you still
have some SPR runway.
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:There's months left of that in the US.
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:But the closer you get to the end
of it, the more the market has to
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:stare down the, a post-SPR world.
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:you know, Japan, Europe, this--
they'll, they still have SPR.
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:Obviously, China has a massive one.
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:So like once ours is over, it's not over
for the world, but that is still gonna
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:be, you know, hundreds of thousands
of barrels a day that's just…
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:It's not there as a buffer anymore.
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:China went from shocking, you
know, demand drop in how much they
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:were importing to less shocking.
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:Like, they, they have
beefed up those imports.
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:Their refinery margins have picked up.
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:As I've mentioned, you know, the,
the Shanghai futures are now more
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:expensive than Brent futures.
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:You're seeing all these signs
that they're coming back.
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:Now, would they like to sit
out at a hundred and twenty
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:or whatever if we get there?
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:Like, yeah, they would love to,
but when you already sat out the
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:last six months, it is, it's really
hard to just sit out forever.
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:Like, the, the math doesn't math
on China being able to, you know,
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:cut imports by whatever, eight
million barrels a day forever.
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:Like, they can't do that forever.
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:They're, they're an import-dependent
economy when it comes to oil.
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:and to be f- to be clear, like the world
needs them to import a bunch, refine
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:a bunch, export the refined products.
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:We so- we have like two hundred and
twenty dollar a barrel diesel right now,
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:which to be, to be fair, you know, w-
the thing I kept calling for, you know,
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:if you go back to like March, April,
May, was like we need the price to get
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:up so that we can bring demand down.
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:To be super clear, six dollar
diesel, th-that's, that's a level
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:where you start messing with demand.
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:Now, is the average 18-wheeler
gonna stop moving goods?
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:Of course not.
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:But You know, if you have, if you
have a small car that you don't
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:really like driving and you have a
diesel truck that you do like driving,
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:you're gonna park the diesel truck.
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:Like, you're gonna start bending,
you know, like that curve on demand.
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:Like some peop- anyone
that can will ration.
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:Let's say, you know, you're, you work
for some contractor that goes out to
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:job sites, you know, all day, every day.
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:Maybe you normally take two trucks
out to those just in case you need
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:that second truck for the tools.
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:Eh, now you might start taking one and
call in the second truck if you need it.
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:Like, there's gonna be
little things like that.
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:We have, I would argue
six dollar diesel…
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:Okay, now we're, we're reaching demand
destruction levels, and obviously
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:not just in the US, but globally.
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:So that will be a thing.
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:People that can, you know, switch
sources, they're gonna switch.
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:Like, if you can move
over to an EV, you will.
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:If you can, you know…
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:What- anything you can
do, you're gonna do it.
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:If you can move from a diesel generator
to a battery generator or a, you know,
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:let's say you're out in the field
in Canada, you can, if you can move
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:over to a, you know, nat gas driven
generator instead of a diesel one,
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:what, like, yeah, you're doing that.
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:Like, all these little sources
are going to, to come up.
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:I would say LNG trucks, which
took off like crazy in China, but
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:obviously LNG's no, no cheaper thanks
to the same problem in the Strait.
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:so energy prices are doing
what they're doing b- mo-mostly
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:because of the war, obviously.
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:It's hard to see that getting a
lot better right now because…
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:And, and, you know, for weeks, I think
the markets have sleep, just kinda
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:slept on this, which is what I expected.
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:I, you know, I wrote a piece
basically outlining The strait
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:is gonna be 20 to 80% open.
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:It's not gonna be 100% open.
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:Everyone's just gonna like,
be like, "Well, who cares?
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:It's 100% open, close enough."
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:And it wouldn't be.
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:It would be somewhere between 20 and 80.
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:They got it up to like 60 pretty
solidly, which is impressive,
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:honestly, when you-- whenever you
include bypassing, to be clear.
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:Now it's less though because that, that
was costing Iran time, and they didn't
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:like that, so Iran got more aggressive.
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:And then obviously, whenever they brought
in the Houthis and started throttling
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:the Red Sea flows, that was a big deal.
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:And the Houthis, unlike, unlike Iran,
like they don't really pull punches.
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:They're not, they're not trying to
like massage this thing and, and,
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:and keep like, keep the ability
to pivot right back to diplomacy.
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:Like, I don't think the Houthis
care about diplomacy at, at the
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:same rate that, that Iran does.
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:So they are just reaching out and touching
Saudi oil infrastructure almost every day.
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:and, and one of the reasons I
wanted to record today is because
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:it looks like they've done some
damage to the East West Pipeline.
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:Now, I don't know if they just maybe
hit one pumping station that can be
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:fixed in two days or something, and
it's not that big a deal or, or more.
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:But there's clearly like some
emergency flaring it looks like going
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:on on the East West Pipeline, like
a lot, and you know, the flow is
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:gonna be down and that, that is…
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:The lion's share of the offset from
the strait is coming from that East
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:West Pipeline, so if that thing
is degraded, that's a big deal.
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:The Houthis keep hitting oil storage tanks
at refining facilities in Saudi Arabia.
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:Saudi Arabia basically copped, copped
to the fact that they're at:
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:level on, oil production right now.
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:Like, so you're talking about a
multi-decade low in production from
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:the world's biggest swing producer.
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:Like that is, that's a big deal.
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:And again, like whenever you have
$100 oil, which, you know, just
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:hit 100 today, that's not enough
to-- for demand destruction.
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:Now diesel has hit it.
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:Gasoline starting to get, I would
say, close to being able to do that,
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:but probably have some more, more
to go before you have real demand
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:destruction on a, on a level that
starts to make this all even out.
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:And, and what makes this worse is,
is the Houthis have pressed towards
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:the Bab el-Mandeb Strait, like taking
territory, conquering territory from
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:the, you know, the Yemeni governent-
government on the other side.
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:So they were already able to affect
Bab el-Mandeb flows because, you
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:know, they have ballistic missiles.
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:Those things go far.
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:They literally kind of leave,
you know, Earth and come back.
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:So now that they are there, like
controlling islands right next
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:to the strait and having coastal
territory and stuff, like they
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:can really disrupt that stuff.
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:And it may let them target up north
back towards, you know, the, you
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:know, the, the East-West pipeline
itself, where it empties in Yanbu, you
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:know, onto ships and then goes north
through, through the strait there.
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:Like that, it, it offers them
probably a little bit more tactical,
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:possibilities to hit that stuff as well.
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:So point being, Iran is getting
more, aggressive with the way they're
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:controlling the Strait of Hormuz, and now
I would argue that the Houthis are getting
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:more power to control Red Sea flows.
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:So Persian Gulf and Red Sea flows,
like it's almost like a vice on both.
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:It's getting tightened down.
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:Now, you're still getting,
you're still getting stuff, stuff
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:out of the Strait of Hormuz.
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:Don't, don't, don't get me wrong.
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:but it looks to me like the Iranians are
starting to take ship-to-ship transfers
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:a little more seriously, threatening
ports, threatening stuff that's anchored.
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:not to mention getting more aggressive
towards the US Navy with, not just, you
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:know, some of their kind of lame coastal
missiles and, and drones and stuff, but
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:even potentially hypersonic missiles that
are not easy to shoot down for the Navy.
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:and I think it goes without saying
that if we got a carrier hit or a
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:destroyer hit, that's a really big deal.
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:and it makes it clear, like you
might need to back up, and if
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:you back up, it gets harder to,
you know, keep your blockade on.
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:Not to mention, like the, the
United, you know, American people
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:are already against this conflict.
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:So you start losing, you know,
Having major damage done to naval
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:order of battle, in addition to all
the air order of battle we've lost
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:or had damaged in the conflict,
more, more fatalities, God forbid.
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:Like, it, it just gets that much more
unpopular, especially as the price
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:of the pump keeps rationing higher.
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:so as we kind of lose these offsets,
you know, China can't really stop.
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:Ke-- I don't think China can
go back to the lows of buying.
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:I think at best, you know,
they're gonna stick at these
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:s- a little bit higher levels.
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:And God forbid, they-- if they go back
to, like, a normal import level or even
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:close, you know, oil, oil is easily one
thirty, one forty, one fifty on that.
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:the-- some people seem to think they
want that to happen, like, but you don't.
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:Like, other than to maybe reduce some
pressure on diesel, assuming they
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:would export enough refined products.
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:But…
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:And then on the, on the, on the other side
of this, which is kinda the same side of,
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:you know, or a different, the other-- a
different side of the same coin, rates.
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:I mean, exploding higher.
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:You now have almost four,
you know, hikes priced.
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:You have, like, three point three, three
point four hikes priced now at this point.
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:the two-year yield is eighty-three,
eighty-four basis points
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:higher than the Fed funds rate.
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:So it's, you know, three and a half, hikes
priced into the next two years there.
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:so now you're, now you're
starting to, like, mess with,
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:you know, cost of capital.
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:And with the AI fellows needing to sell
bonds to keep that dream alive, like, you
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:know, their cost of financing gets worse.
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:All the private credit stuff tied to SOFR,
you start rate, doing rate hikes, well,
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:obviously that means SOFR's going higher.
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:the, the cost of capital
is becoming a problem.
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:And sure, like, Google can pay the
cost of capital, but not everyone can.
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:Like, there are small businesses out
there that have to borrow money tied
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:to SOFR, and all of a sudden it's
gonna be fifty, seventy-five basis
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:points higher, and it, that could be
a big deal for some of these people.
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:Especially as they're getting squeezed
by higher, higher costs for themselves
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:and, you know, regular people have
their real income getting squeezed
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:and going negative because inflation
is outpacing their wage gains.
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:So it's not like they're gonna--
you can just charge customers
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:to make up the difference.
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:Not for everybody.
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:Some people can, but, but a
lot of people won't be able to.
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:So point being, you're gonna start up
here at these levels, you know, five
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:percent ten-year, six dollar diesel.
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:As we move above those, if the war
keeps going, because we've lost our
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:ability to kind of blunt the war
impacts, start messing with the real
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:economy, you know, inflation's been
good enough in the threes or whatever.
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:Like, well, next thing you know,
you're pressing five percent inflation.
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:If the war continues for
another few months, like
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:Point, the big overarching point is
markets have been able to largely ignore
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:this war other than, you know, markets
that everyone's basically have to ignore.
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:Like, the average American could care
less that, you know, the Europeans and
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:Asians are paying a bunch for LNG or that,
you know, some chemicals prices went up
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:or, you know, other than farmers, no one
cares about some of those input costs
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:that farmers have tied to the straight,
you know, like sugar or whatever.
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:Like, no one's noticed that yet 'cause
it hasn't flowed through to retail
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:prices in a, in a meaningful way.
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:We're, we're talking about a bunch
of wholesale prices that have moved,
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:and obviously retail prices have.
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:Like, you know, the, the inflation report
tomorrow is expected that headline to
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:come in at point four month over month.
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:You know, I don't…
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:That's close to five percent
annualized inflation.
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:That's not nothing.
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:but we haven't really seen this stuff
flow through yet and, you know, to
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:see some, some of the people at the
Fed still acting like, "Oh, well,
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:underlying inflation's gotten a lot
better in the last couple months."
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:Like, guys, look, look out the window.
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:It's like I always try to-- I always
like to s- you know, compare this to
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:the map is not the territory thing.
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:You know, the…
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:That, that cliff wasn't on my GPS.
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:I feel like that's where we're
at with the, with the Fed.
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:Like, just look out the
window, six dollar diesel.
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:Like, inflation's going up, and it's going
up a lot, especially with agriculture
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:prices doing what they're doing.
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:And by the way, diesel is a
giant input in agriculture
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:prices, so it's gonna get worse.
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:clearly inflation is high and rising
and potentially getting a little,
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:you know, nonlinear all of a sudden.
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:Rates, same thing.
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:And, you know, if you're the average
equity, like, eh, you have-- you
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:really haven't needed to care.
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:But if we're gonna press higher
from here without pan- policymakers
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:panicking imminently, beatings
will continue until the war ends.
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:so what the market needs at
this point is policymaker panic.
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:Whenever they panic, you
can un-panic as an investor.
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:So yes, Bessent has stepped
in with the, you know, buyback
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:stuff, but that's really mild.
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:Now, whenever they talked about
using the TGA, different story.
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:Like that, they can get yields down
if they weaponize the TGA at scale.
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:But you probably need that to be worse
than here to justify it or to have,
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:you know, the Fed just go mop up f-
you know, half a trillion dollars
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:doing QE or something like You can't
do it just because the price is unfun.
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:Like now a day like today, ten basis
points on the ten year, you get a few
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:of those and you can make the argument,
look, this is disorderly, this is crazy.
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:We can't have this.
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:We have to step in.
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:you're not there yet though.
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:But point being, you need policymakers
to panic so markets cannot.
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:Or more to the point,
you need the war to end.
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:But with that said, you know, it's
not like we're-- it's not like
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:FinTwit guys or the only people that
can, can draw a line on a chart for
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:yields or, or, or oil or diesel.
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:Like promise you Scott
Bessent has his own crayons.
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:You know, people in the White
House have their own crayons.
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:They drew the same lines you did.
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:They see this stuff breaking out.
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:They know what it means to.
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:Which means, yeah, you, you are
likely getting closer to some sort of
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:policymaker panic, whether that's, you
know, restarting negotiations with Iran
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:and, and chilling out and coming up
with some new creative framework for
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:the Strait that lets them control it.
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:But you make sure you get a bunch out
and, you know, wink, wink, the, the tolls
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:they, they charge are very voluntary.
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:Like no one has to pay them.
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:You know, this is all
above board, wink, wink.
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:Like there, there's stuff you can do
to end this war, get it over with.
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:Anyone paying attention will
know how much Iran won, but
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:they're gonna win either way.
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:So you may as well take the L and, and,
and start trying to move on from it.
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:And hey, like five percent yields
and you know, a hundred and five and
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:counting oil and six dollar diesel.
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:Like that's the kind of stuff
that policymakers have to…
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:It's a constraint.
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:Like they can't ignore the constraints.
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:but I will say like, I think we
also have to be prepared for instead
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:of them going after the roots of
this thing, just, you know, going
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:after the, the, the side effects.
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:that's not what they should do, but
we may get some side effects stuff.
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:And I think from a market practitioner
standpoint, what we have to watch here,
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:what we have to-- the, the way we have
to make our decision is do they treat the
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:symptoms or do they treat the root cause?
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:If they treat the symptoms, you
keep pressing because beatings
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:will continue until the market
improves or, or until the war ends.
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:If they go after root cause, then, then
you, you know, if you're involved in
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:these things, if you're short bonds,
you're super long oil or whatever,
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:you, you back away if they, if they
panic and go after the root cause.
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:If they just, you know, try to go
after the side effects, then I think
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:you can kinda press ahead, you know.
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:So that, that's what I'm gonna
be watching for as we go forward.
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:But I think it's important to note,
like we've reached a point where like
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:stocks don't get to ignore this anymore.
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:You know, the bonds and oil, they
just don't have the same, margin
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:of error and wiggle room they had.
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:So I-- it's now, it's now
time to watch this stuff.
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:It's time to hedge.
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:It's time to be long vol and stuff
until the policymakers freak out.
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:That's, that's the, that's the message.
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:But that's all I got for today.
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:be back next time.
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:I think there's enough important
stuff to, throw out some discernments.
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:Cheers.