The central theme of this podcast episode revolves around the cinematic exploration of the film "Robin Hood: Prince of Thieves," a motion picture released in 1991 that has garnered a significant amount of both admiration and criticism over the years. We delve into the juxtaposition of the film's intended dramatic narrative against the unintentional comedic elements that have emerged, particularly through the performance of Alan Rickman as the Sheriff of Nottingham, whose portrayal has become a focal point of enjoyment amidst the film's shortcomings. The discourse further examines the peculiarities of Kevin Costner's performance, his lack of an English accent, and how these aspects contribute to the overall reception of the film. Additionally, we contemplate the film's historical context, character dynamics, and the nostalgic value it holds for audiences, despite its apparent flaws. Ultimately, we arrive at a consensus that, while the film may not align with conventional standards of cinematic excellence, it remains a source of entertainment and laughter, particularly when viewed through the lens of its unintended humor.

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Especially at the ending scene right where you have that he confronts like the bishop or whoever it is and the final 30 pieces of silver to pay the devil, you know, stops him out the window.

I was like, I could see J.J. doing that.

I don't know what your mission president was like, but I could see that happening.

If JJ didn't agree with oh yeah, here you go.

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It's Robin Hood, Prince of Thieves.

It was written by Pan Ben Densham and John Watson.

It was directed by Kevin Reynolds.

We have a theme, stars Kevin Costner.

Also a theme.

Morgan Freeman, Mary Elizabeth Monstronio, Christian Slater, Alan Rickman, Geraldine McEwen, Brian Blessed, Michael McShane, Nick Brimble and Michael Wincott.

It is about Robin Hood who decides to fight back as an outlaw and face with the tyranny of the Sheriff of Nottingham.

Somebody was really lazy on that one.

They were just like, it's a Robin.

Robin Hood.

This is like 53rd Robin Hood movie ever.

Yeah.

So, Alec, this is again, your pick.

Can't wait to hear what drove this one.

So I didn't actually realize that I picked the same movie for as Water World.

Just different backdrop and everything like that.

But, yeah, and I'll say this one's better, but we have a.

We have the same start, right, where you got like 10, 15 minutes to kick it off.

Pretty good, right?

You set the scene, you set the story.

You realize what's happening both in Jerusalem and back in England.

And you get this idea that it's going to be a dark, menacing kind of drama undertone.

And then Kevin Costner gets involved and it shifts and then from there.

I mean, once again, the most compelling performance to me is the villain, Alan Rickman as the sheriff of Nottingham, Gold.

And it's.

It's widely known, I guess, or at least widely talked about how much he went off script because he knew how bad it was gonna be and he saved the movie.

But it's.

It's one of those scenes where, like, it's.

It's.

I enjoy it.

And it's got a.

It's got a killer song.

Like, when that epic song comes on in the credits, you're like.

You're like, let's go.

And then you start off, you get to see, you know, the part of the Crusades that's talked about but never mentioned where, you know, he's captured.

He's in the holding cell below Jerusalem.

Got all these things, and you see, you know, his family home getting taken away.

And you.

You get to see that aspect of it.

And it.

It looks like this is going to be that blockbuster generational hit based on the first, like, 10, 15 minutes of it.

And then it just.

It just goes down and it just gets worse and worse.

And there's.

There's a few moments in there that are pretty cool, and they're pretty much tied to whenever that song is playing or Alan Rickman is on screen.

Like, that's cool.

But the.

The.

The most egregious sin where we'll just get this out of the way first is Kevin Costner not even trying for an English accent with a rock and hood.

Yeah.

So much so that they.

They made an entire parody of this film.

And that was pretty much the tagline or what it was built around is speaking with an English accent.

Oh, yeah.

Or at least trying to.

And so it's.

It's.

Again, it was around the same time that I saw Waterworld, so around that, like, age of Adventure, spirit of adventure type thing.

And so I enjoy it, but there's so many problems with this.

And it turns into like, you know, the Robin Hood story is supposed to be funny, right?

It's Robin Hood and his merry men.

You're supposed to have funny moments in there.

But I should not be giggling uncontrollably throughout Robin Hood's film and story because again, the.

The.

The story itself is not a funny story.

Yeah.

You know, this.

This coup that's happening at the same time that you're taxing the poor and, you know all this stuff and it's.

It's not a very enjoyable story or a funny story to begin with, but it.

I just cackle the entire time.

Oh, yeah.

And even your menacing Guy of Gisborne character, who I like the casting form.

Yeah, Right.

Voice and everything is.

He's a sideshow kind of character.

And it's just funny.

Funny.

Like it's not supposed to be.

He's supposed to be this menacing and they got the right guy for it.

But he doesn't get to show this kind of very menacing factor.

Instead, he's talking about no when he's when.

Because even the intro where you see him and he's chasing Wolf down, like menacing dude.

And then he makes that comment about, like being stuck in a tree or deer can't climb trees, I think is what it is.

You're just like, dude, who wrote this?

Yeah, it's terrible.

It's terrible.

And it just gets worse and worse and worse.

Yeah.

Yeah.

This one's a tricky one for me because much like Waterworld for you, had some nostalgia.

This one has nostalgia because I was young.

I was younger.

How about that?

So when this one came out, I was 10 years old.

And it's amazing the difference that four years can make in your perception of a movie.

And.

And so funny story on this one that has very little to do with the movie, but it's very funny.

So when I was 10 years old, I was living in Ohio and my family, as you know, grew up very lds.

Okay.

I've not been since Mo I was young, but my family was right.

And there was a.

And I'm not gonna say their name, but there was a family that grew up with my dad, one of my dad's best friends growing up.

And they were.

When I think of the signature or like the, you know, the, the tent pole LDS family, this is the family I think of.

And not in a bad way.

Right.

Like, right.

I. I poo poo the church all the time.

I poo poo religion in general.

Let's not say I poo poo at the.

Just the LDS church.

I poo poo ld religion in general.

We both do.

Yeah.

But when I think of like the, the staple LDS family in the best possible way, meaning they live the values of this church.

They believe in it.

They're not pompous about it.

Like, they're not shitty human beings.

They're still very good people.

They're trying to.

And they do try to educate you about the church, but they just are very good kind in family.

Large family.

This family, their goal was always to have 12 kids minimum.

And they were close when even I was a kid.

I think they had like five or six at the time when I was 10.

And they ended up, I think, having a full dozen kids anyway, they.

And.

And they were all.

And so.

And then their oldest daughter was my age.

And so these families grew up together.

So it was always like this running joke that we were going to connect these families.

Right.

This girl and me.

Right.

And listen, she was wonderful and I had a crush on her when I was a little kid.

And as we grew up, like, I think the worst thing that they ever did was push that narrative so much that I was just like, there's no way I could ever even if I wanted to.

And then we moved away.

So it didn't matter.

But it was very interesting.

So I was over at this family's house.

My parents were off doing something.

So we.

I stayed with this family.

Okay, well back then, when I was 10, like it was a big deal.

We'll go rent a movie and come back and watch it as a family.

So I had seen.

My family had rented this movie when I was.

I mean, I had to have been 11 at the time when it.

We rented it.

Well.

And I didn't know any better.

Right.

Like, so you brought the devil into the household, dude.

So we, we go.

I had watched this movie and I didn't remember the fact that mean your memory as a kid isn't that strong that my parents had covered my eyes or they had distracted me during certain parts.

And I didn't know what the hell they were saying when I was.

You know what I'm saying?

So anyway, I didn't get the.

The.

The innuendo jokes.

So we go to the.

The, you know, the Blockbuster, I think it was, or the local rental joint, and we're walking around and I was like, oh, this movie was really funny.

And they're like, oh, did you watch that with your parents?

I'm like, yeah.

So they immediately thought, clear, safe, right?

Well, they had.

We were the oldest.

Me and.

Me and this.

And their daughter were the oldest of the kids at 11 years old, right?

So the rest were younger.

And we all sit around as a family and start watching this movie, and all of a sudden I start.

And again, I'm too young to even really understand that I should be embarrassed by the fact that this really strong LDS faithful family is now watching hands get chopped off and like, yeah, Kevin Costner's ass, like 10ft halfway through the movie.

And yeah.

By the end of it, like, and then.

So I didn't know, but I could tell it was really weird because, like, the.

The patriarch of this family, he asked me at one point, you watch this with your parents?

And I was like, yeah, yeah, 100.

And I could see this, like, look on him and his wife's face, like, okay.

You know, and I mean, there's a.

There's an attempted SA in this, you know, I mean, there's just so many things that don't fit the narrative of this really strong LDS family.

Right?

But it was PG 13, so we didn't.

Or it was PG even, I think.

I don't know.

I don't know, because it's the 80s or 90s.

Yeah, it was early 90s, so I don't even know that, like, PG13 was such a rarity anyway.

So it was just like, really, It's a funny story.

Like, this is part of, like, why I remember this movie fondly, because looking back on it now, I'm like, they had to have been so uncomfortable.

Oh, 100.

And their kids are.

We.

We didn't know what the hell we were watching.

So, like, it was funny to us because all we got was the surface level jokes, right?

Like, we didn't understand the sexual innuendo and the violence and the cursing.

And we didn't know so.

Because we were raised in this sheltered little community at the time in this backwater city, you know, town in Ohio.

So anyway, it was funny.

I always think about this.

And then the other Thing I think about is that that Brian Adams song dominated the airwaves for at least a year, if not long.

I mean it's still played in at weddings and dances and you know, it's this long ass song.

Really great song, but yeah, like it.

Yeah.

That's where my memory goes.

But this, I have a very fond memory of this film versus Waterworld where I was like, this movie sucks.

Well, it's, it's interesting too because like the, it's a tough one because there's so many like really funny moments.

Like the one that cracks me up is the two reoccurring outlaws that are just dumb.

As dumb as a stump.

Right.

And you know, they're sitting there and how many are there?

There's five.

Right.

You can't count them anyway.

Yeah.

Or you take the one on the left.

Which one's the left, and he holds up his right hand and then it's like it just continues on.

So there's plenty of moments where I'm laughing.

Right.

That I know were intended.

Right.

Like these jokes are intended.

This is the, the part of the Robin Hood story is supposed to be funny.

Mary man.

Outlaws and stuff like that.

Yeah.

But then it's the, the one that's, the ones that get me are, is Alan Rickman.

Oh yeah, right.

Like e. Like just the, just every single time he's on the screen.

Right.

The cancel Christmas line.

Oh yeah.

And he can't do it.

Or the, he's walking by and he sees the stitch marks drawn on his.

You and he, he stops to scrub him off.

And then even like you mentioned, like there is an essay, attempted essay in this.

But even that is kind of funny in a way because he grabs a pillow to like put behind her head and so it's like it's, it's not funny.

But at the same time the circumstances and the situation and the way that he does it, like you're sitting there going, oh, that was kind of nice of him.

Right?

Yeah, attempting.

And so that's the, that's the thing where it comes at like where it's not supposed to be funny.

Yeah.

Like Alan Rickman takes over and he kills it.

Oh yeah.

It just, it becomes now instead of being like this drama with funny bits in interlaced in it, it becomes a comedy surrounding Alan Rickman.

Yeah.

And it's just, it's, it's not supposed to happen.

But I, I cackle every single time he's on the screen.

Yeah.

Because he's so good.

And he just decided, you know, I. I can write lines better than this.

I know what I'm doing.

I'm.

You know, I'm.

I'm amazing, pretty much.

And I'm gonna fix this movie.

And by fixing it, he.

He did well for himself, but he almost ruins the movie.

Yeah.

No, now, once again, it's.

I don't want Robin Hood to win.

I want the Sheriff to win.

Because he's funny.

Yeah, yeah.

Like that same.

I was thinking the same thing.

Like the line where he's like, yeah, the attempted essay is happening.

And he's like, how am I supposed to concentrate with all that racket going on?

And I'm just like, what the.

Is happening right now?

Because as an adult, I now understand.

I'm like, this is morbid, but, like, you can't help but kind of giggle a little bit.

And it's a movie that would.

In the way it's made now, could never get made today.

No.

But it's, like, so interesting and at the time, like, it was a very successful movie financially and continued to push, you know, Kevin Costner's career.

And I'm sorry, but.

And I've said this before, Kevin Costner in this time frame, outside of comedy was terrible.

Like, I hated Kevin Costner back then.

Be accepting comedies like Tin cup or, you know, things where he was being like, his silly, weird awkwardness works.

Whereas in this, when he's trying to be this charismatic thief that everybody loves, I'm like, you're dull and bland.

And the more most interesting part of your crew is Little John and Aim, who I.

How they got freaking.

It just blows my mind that the cast around.

And this is a typical.

I've said this before about Costner, though, is that Costner films.

The funny part about him is like, the surrounding cast, the thing, the people he brings in around him are way better at acting.

Oh, he is.

And they make films now as an older man.

Like, he did the show Yellowstone.

He's great in that.

But that plays to his strengths as an older man.

This movie does not play to his strengths.

Like, it.

At least the character that he plays in it.

Right.

So it's like, I don't know, it's a struggle.

But yeah, like, man.

Aim's a great character too.

Like, I love, like, yeah.

Christian.

Like, it's just like, get up.

Yeah.

Be faster.

It's amazing.

And I think of all, like, the adaptations of Robin Hood and that involve Aim or the character likeness of Azim.

He.

This is by far the best.

Yeah.

Oh, yeah.

You know, portrayal of that and how that, you know, he learned from him.

But it's also just, like, so bad.

But I mean, it also has great lines, too.

Like, there's lines in this movie that I still use today.

Like, if someone's pissing me off, I'll cut your heart out with a spoon.

Yeah.

And then I can't, and I can't help myself but finish the line and go, why a spoon, cousin?

What, on a knife or an ax?

Because it's dull, you twit.

It'll hurt more.

I've been saying that my whole life, dude.

Because that line sticks with me.

That combination of lines, right?

Like where he's chasing him, he gets his face.

I cut your heart, dude.

It's great.

But then you're like, but does it really fit the film and what we're trying to do here?

Not even a little bit.

No.

But it's what makes this movie successful in spite of itself.

Right?

So it's just.

It's such a conundrum film that you're like, it's so bad.

But at the same time.

And I always put this in the category of movies that are so bad, they're good.

Yeah.

No, it fits perfectly into there as well.

Yeah.

And the funny part is, is we have the better Robin Hood in this movie.

Christian Slater.

Oh, yeah.

Way better Robin Hood.

He would fit the role perfectly.

He.

Yeah.

Would be phenomenal in it.

And we get him as Will Scarlet in.

In the movie.

So we get some of it.

But I can't help but watch this and go, you know what would be really cool is if Christian Slater was Robin Hood.

Yeah.

And then the interactions with the sheriff, you get to have a little bit more of, I think, back and forth dialogue where you have this banter versus with Costner and Rickman, you get kind of like the.

The sheriff setting up all these things, and Costner comes back with his melodramatic, you know, like, do Gooder kind of for the people vibe.

And it's like, dude, no, give me some back and forth, some banter, because I. I enjoy Robin Hood stories.

And you have this banter that goes back and forth, and it makes for a better movie because, you know, it's.

It's not like the, you know, the.

The perfect person.

Right.

It's not the perfect good versus the perfect evil, which is what Costa tries to do with this.

Like, I'm.

I'm so shiny and perfect and righteous in a way.

And no, it's like Robin Hood was still an outlaw, but it was what he did as an outlaw that.

So he still has this disrespect for authority, this kind of outlaw Persona and everything.

It just so happens that what he was doing was good for the people.

And the only reason why he was doing it was because it was bad for the sheriff and everybody else.

Yeah.

And so, like, it's not this, you know, perfect good versus perfect evil, but that's what, you know, Costner's almost trying to do with this.

And it doesn't work as well as having this kind of back and forth going at, you know, you know, give Robin Hood a little more of a devil may care attitude.

Yeah.

And that's why I was like, when every single time I watch this, I'm like, shoot, I would have loved to see Christian Slater in Rob and in the role of Robin Hood.

Yeah.

Because then you add in the side characters like you were talking about Azeem, Little John, and then you can even throw fire tuck in there.

Which, watching this for the first time after knowing you, I'm like, J.J. but you throw all these other characters into.

And now you actually have your band of merry men versus what we get with this is the band of Mary men.

But they're all very proper when, you know, Robin's around and, you know, it's.

Yeah.

This kind of thing.

And so that's the.

That's something that I get hung up quite a bit is like, what.

What could have been and what.

The kind of.

The same theme that happened with last week on Water Rules.

Just take Kevin Costner out of it.

Yeah.

Like, I know he's a big name, he's got the headlines, everything like that, but just, Just take him out.

Yep.

And we.

We could have incredible movies.

Oh, yeah, it's.

It's a wild.

Yeah, it's a wild situation with Costner because he makes all these popular, like, famous films.

But it's almost again, in spite of him early on anyway.

Right.

Like again later in life, I think he figured it out and he kind of realized, I need to be in this role, in that role.

And I fit here and I fit there, and I can sub circumvent that a little bit or, you know, go against the grain in some cases, like a.

Like a Mr. What was that movie called?

Where he was the Serial Killer.

Anyway, that's a great one.

And he played that really well, but goes against expectations for him.

But as a younger guy, like, he got.

He got famous and then he was Like, I can do whatever.

And it didn't work at least 50 of the time.

Right.

She wanted to target.

She's telling us, too.

So.

Yeah, it's just.

Yeah, it's.

It's interesting to bring that up because that's the.

That's almost perfect.

Is that kind of thing with Costner's.

He's.

He's bad for his.

His own self because he's Mrs.

So frequently.

Yeah.

But I. Yeah.

Me, Fryer Tuck, for sure.

Oh, I was I.

That one.

Oh, yeah.

Clean.

Because he just shows up, big dude, big beer drinking and singing on the wagon.

And especially, you know, you got the.

Even the disrespect for authority as well, because you got guy just horns.

Like, shut up.

Like, we're in Sherwood.

Yeah.

And kind of like, you know, just grumble.

And then, you know, you can even throw in there at one point in life at least, you know, religious.

But at the same time.

Yeah.

Sees the hypocrisy of it all at the same time.

Like.

Yeah.

So I was.

And so especially at the ending scene, right, where you have that he confronts, like, the bishop or whoever it is and the final 30 pieces of silver to pay the devil, you know.

Yeah.

Toss him out the window.

I was like, I could see J.J. doing that.

I don't know what your mission president was like, but I could see that happening.

If J.J. didn't agree with.

Oh, yeah, here you go.

Out.

Out the window for sure.

You know, I'll help you pack.

It's one of my favorite scenes in the movie is the.

The back and forth between the two of them that you get to see this one that looks like the perfect representation of, you know, the.

The church.

And then you have Tuck, who's this, by all intents and purposes, like, the worst representation and yet does the most good.

Right.

He's the better version.

And watching.

Yeah.

When he's.

I'll help you pack and burn in hell.

And he shoves him out the window.

I'm like, that's a righteous kill right there.

And so, like, there's moments in this movie that got really.

Right.

That's one of them.

And then another one is the.

Like when he first shows up to the Sherwood Floor Forest game.

And it's like, hey, you know, we need.

We need a fryer pretty much.

Or we need.

It's like, okay, you know, like, I got this type of thing.

This is what I was meant for.

These are my people type of a thing.

Because, you know, he was on his way or from the Priory or whatever.

And they gave him the job of transporting stuff because they didn't want him around.

Yep.

Because he's not the hoity toity fancy types that would go to church at this time.

And so you give him the congregation.

That's right up his alley.

And it's like, like, okay.

And then, you know, you can throw in there.

Another great scene that I think they did is actually between.

What is it?

It's between a zim.

It's when Azeem.

And the whole, like, back and forth about when the guy turned the baby around.

Yeah.

And, you know, Friar Tuck's coming in kind of fire, brimstone type of a thing.

And then afterwards, he's got that kind of moment where he's like, okay, you did know what you were doing.

That's.

That's my bad.

Yeah.

Type thing.

So there's several scenes with Friar Tuck that they did so well, and it's unfortunate that they were just in this movie because.

Yeah, it's.

It's.

It's not the greatest backdrop for some of these amazing scenes.

Yeah, no, I agree with you.

There are some really good characters and really good moments in this movie.

And I think that's the only reason that it didn't get the same, you know, stigma that Waterworld did.

Right.

Like, there was enough understanding because, listen, I saw this movie.

I was excited for this movie because Robin Hood's one of my favorite stories of all time.

Like, and it, ironically, it comes from as a little kid watching the Disney version.

You know what I mean?

The little cartoon.

Like, I still could sing all the songs.

Like, I love that version.

But then it grew with me.

And even as an adult, like, if somebody makes a Robin Hood movie, I'm gonna watch it, because I love that idea and that story.

And.

And so I watched this movie and I enjoyed it because of what it was.

And then there was the moments and, like, I love the interaction.

I'm with you.

Like, I think Will Scarlett is the most charismatic guy in this whole thing, other than maybe Little John.

I love him, too.

Like, I always look because he also played Sir Ector in A Knight's Tale.

So I'm always like, oh, let's check it out.

But anyway, I. Yeah, I mean, there's just so much that is good about it that it does have redeeming qualities to it, no matter how bad the actual movie is from a filmmaking or.

You know, but it's.

It's all on Costner at that point.

Right.

It's not everything else.

You're like, man, this is A great movie if it to your point, didn't have Kevin Costner in it, so.

But yeah, it's.

I don't know.

It's a tricky one.

It's a tricky one, but it has some great moments.

And I do laugh my ass off when they catapult them over the wall.

Oh, yeah.

It's hilarious.

Me.

They cleared it.

It's just some great lines.

I also enjoy the moment too, when Will Scarlet re reveals himself, you know, to Rob, like, I'm your brother, dude.

Like.

And it has that moment of very poignancy that's like, why didn't you tell me?

Like, this could have been a whole lot different.

Yeah.

We could have just let me know.

Skip this whole process.

Yeah.

And not had this whole thing be a mess.

But.

And then, you know, Marion.

Oh, what's the actress that plays Marion?

She's amazing.

Mary Elizabeth.

Master Antonio.

I love her in the.

The Abyss later on, but, like, she's great.

Alan Rickman just chews up every scene he's in.

It's phenomenal.

Yeah.

Like, Morgan Freeman is amazing.

It's.

Yeah.

Everything's so good except for some of the dialogue and then everything that has to do with Costner for the most part, so.

And like, the.

Even the story's a little disjointed, like, sure.

Again, scene that's not supposed to be funny, but I die laughing every time is when the.

They bring in the Celts to attack the.

The forest.

Yeah.

And it's like Stone Age Celts, right?

Yeah.

They're not wearing animal skins anymore.

No.

I don't think they're even really using woad anymore, but.

Stupid.

They bring them in and I'm just laughing.

Especially the guy on the horse who's just walking around with like, you know, helm hammer hands, hammer bopping people.

Seriously.

This is so funny.

And then to like, piggyback off it, right?

Where they.

The scene where they're now going to rescue everybody.

Right.

And they give the shortest guy there, like the kelp outfit.

Yeah.

He's.

Dude's like 410.

And the sea of people is partying because he's just like.

Like, you put little John in there, big guy.

Right.

You might have a better chance of it.

But I'm dying because he's just standing by the gate and dude can.

Has to like, reach up to get the rope.

He just looked like a little dwarf out there.

And they're all.

They're all scared because he's dressed like a Kelp.

Yeah, I was.

So it's.

It's little things like that that almost ruin the great character performances.

Yeah.

Because we miss out on so much or it just, it's just so disjointing that, you know, by the time we get to this, you know, kind of breakout scene and we got the fire explosions like that, like, as cool as that is, I'm also just kind of giggling.

Oh, yeah.

Because right before that, you know, it's Friar Tucking the leprosy comment.

Right.

Is this your finger?

And so it almost suffers from, you know, what is this exactly supposed to be?

Because I think if they picked drama, it would have been really good.

I think if they picked comedy, it'd be really good.

But it started out as a drama that, you know, is almost found out the comedy was more successful or it's going to be more or easier to do.

And so it flip flopped in the middle.

Yeah.

So it's.

But it's still something that I sit down, I.

And I just enjoy.

And I swear, hearing that song come on when the credits start to go through, I'm like, yeah, let's go.

Yeah.

It's weird how a love song, like, get y' all pumped up in this movie.

Yeah, he does.

Well.

And they got some huge names.

I mean, I wonder how much they paid Sean connery for his 30 seconds freaking lion Richard the Lionheart cameo.

Like, and then I also wonder too.

I've always been like, where's Prince John in this whole.

Because, like, in the actual story, like, that's.

That's where the coup's coming from.

Like, yeah, he's just, he's utilizing the sheriff, but where's Prince John in all this?

But.

And maybe it was just like, we don't have the budget space for one more character to be in here and convolute this story any further.

But yeah, it's a tricky one for me because like I said, there's a ton of nostalgia for this one for me.

And then there's some really great, genuinely good stuff that happens in this movie.

It's mixed in with the, like, what the is going on.

And there is some funny action to, like that.

That iconic scene where it's on the screen right there below us to a degree, like where he.

That explosion happens as he fires into the guy that's about to kill Will Scarlett.

You're like, okay, that was dope looking.

Yeah.

And they, But.

And then they, they launched him over the wall and you're like, that looked like it would kill you.

Yeah.

Especially because I think they opened the gate like a grand total of 10 seconds later.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

It's just like one.

I'm like, the trajectory of that.

They went pretty high.

Pretty sure that catapult looked like I would have thrown them right into the wall.

But yeah, you know, whatever.

It is what it is.

Yeah.

All right, should we rate it?

Let's do it.

All right, guy, you're up again.

My movie.

I think I'm gonna go three.

So it is a better movie than Waterworld.

It still is funny when it's not supposed to be.

And I, I blame.

Right in air quotes.

Blame Alan Rickman for that because everything he does is funny.

I honestly could do without the witch portion.

Yeah, like that.

That was weird to me.

Aside from whenever she's interacting with Alan Rickman.

And so three, I will watch it again.

It's an enjoyable watch.

I'll sit down and I'll watch this pretty much anytime.

But I do so knowing that I'm gonna.

I'm gonna laugh hilariously at a Robin Hood movie.

And then there are parts where I'm gonna tune out and not care, care because it just.

It doesn't help.

The storyline doesn't fit it.

It's not as enjoyable.

And so it's one again, one of those movies where I sit down thinking, man, I wish the sheriff wins this Robin Hood fight.

Like, you're never supposed to think that.

But he.

Alan Rickman does such a great, you know, job at being a likable villain and being funny and, you know, moving the story along that you're like, dude, I really wish she, you know, I really wish he wins because that's cool.

The sarcasm, the one liners and everything just boils it down.

But I. I'm gonna give it a 3.

I will watch it again.

But it's.

It's definitely funny when it shouldn't be.

Yeah.

Yeah, I'm gonna be right there with you.

I'm gonna give it a three.

Two.

And I think it's one of those things where I've said this a million times about a bunch of movies, but when it's really good, it's really good.

But when it's bad, Jesus, is it bad?

And it's kind of got a weird balance of good and bad, but it.

So it works in a lot of ways where it doesn't work in just as many.

And so it's tricky.

But there is a level of nostalgia for me for the time frame and when I saw it first and the fact that it's a Robin Hood film in general and that there are some, like I said, some very entertaining parts.

And to your point, it was never, I don't think meant to be a comedy, but God, it worked out as a really good one in a lot of ways.

And Alan Rickman, as he has his whole, he, how he, as he did his whole career, just steals scenes and becomes a major focal point of this movie.

To your point that you're like, I.

This might be the one time I want Robin Hood to lose.

Like, yeah, because I kind of want to see this guy run the country of England because what a country it would be like, you know what I mean?

So it's.

Yeah, but I mean, it, it fits the theme perfectly of a movie that was not intended to be funny, that turns out to be quite hilarious in a lot of ways and ending some really good moments.

And there's a lot to love about the movie and a lot to hate, but I will definitely watch it again.

But yeah, a solid three for me.

Like, it's, it has, it's entertaining in, in all the right ways.

And so, yeah, good stuff.

Alec, tell me where they can find us.

Happy to.

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Cool.

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