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Debt, Freedom & Language: Rethinking Credit Cards and Contracts — with Tommy Kilpatrick
Episode 11st September 2025 • The divine decode Podcast • divinedecode
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On this episode of Divine Decode, we unpack debt, consumer rights, and spiritual resilience with guest Tommy Kilpatrick. Tommy recounts how he went from $85,000 in credit-card debt to challenging bank practices, reframing “debt” through accounting language and contract fundamentals, and rebuilding life with faith, intention, and service. We explore why law is language (and language is law), how statements differ from invoices, and why emotional clarity matters when you’re under financial pressure. This conversation is direct, practical, and reflective—aimed at listeners who want to question assumptions about money while staying grounded, ethical, and safe.

About the guest

Tommy Kilpatrick is an author and educator who openly shares his debt story, legal and accounting arguments about bank-issued credit cards, and the spiritual practices that helped him reset his life. He now speaks about mindset, language, and personal responsibility in money matters.

Key takeaways:
  • Debt feels absolute when fear leads; naming what’s happening clearly (statement vs. invoice, contract vs. assumption) can restore agency.

  • Language shapes outcomes: precise terms and documented evidence matter when disputing charges or correcting records.

  • Don’t ignore legal process: if sued, respond on time and seek licensed counsel; default judgments happen when you stay silent.

  • Emotional regulation is financial strategy: breathwork, pausing, and values-based intention help you make safer decisions.

  • Know the difference between true secured loans and revolving lines; documentation and signed promises carry legal weight.

  • Pay attention to fees and terms; avoid carrying balances when possible, and verify any claim in writing.

  • Spiritual reframes (purpose, responsibility, service) can keep you steady while you do the practical work (budgets, negotiations, credit report checks).

  • If overwhelmed, take one safe first step: pull your credit reports, list every account, and book a session with a qualified attorney or CPA to review your specific situation.

  • “All you need to do is send a letter to the bank … and that is how you can not get out of debt. It’s not a debt.”

  • “There is no loan.”

  • “You never want to pay them any interest.”

  • “I have discovered a worldwide bank fraud …”
     We present these as the guest’s opinions, not recommendations. Listeners should consult a licensed attorney/CPA before acting.

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