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Attack the Block (2011)
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This podcast episode delves into the film "Attack the Block," which presents a unique narrative centered around a group of teenagers in South London who valiantly defend their block from a sudden alien invasion. The discussion oscillates between admiration for the film's creative ambition and criticism of its execution, particularly in terms of its social commentary and character development. I express my fondness for the film despite its shortcomings, highlighting the effort invested by the filmmakers and the entertaining moments that arise amidst the chaos. My co-host, however, articulates a contrasting viewpoint, emphasizing the film's perceived deficiencies and lack of engagement. Together, we navigate the complexities of this cinematic endeavor, ultimately reflecting on its status as a "hidden gem" and the broader implications of storytelling within the film industry.

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Anyway, that's why I picked it.

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That and I knew one of these two movies, the last two movies you were gonna hate, I didn't know which one, but I had to hedge my bets and.

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And make sure there was at least something you were going to be hateful.

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About because it was this one.

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You know, the beginning of my year was needs, needs payback.

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So I. I found at least one.

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Welcome to what's everybody podc Bashing ourselves Cinematic judge and jury.

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My name is JJ Carter.

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I'm with my co host Alec Burgess.

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But from this, you know, one about us.

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But anyway, with that, we're on the final week of August, which is our final week of hidden gems that I've been torturing Alec with the last couple of weeks.

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At least that's how I interpreted it.

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So that's how we ended up with these.

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These three movies, one of which I think is actually a gem.

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The other are just personal gems.

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It's pretty good.

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So there it is.

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,:

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It was written and directed by Joe Conish.

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It stars John Boyega, Jody Whitaker, Alex Ishmael, Leon Jones, Simon Howard, Franz J, Maggie McCarthy, Luke Treadway, Nick Frost and Jermaine Hunter.

Speaker A:

It's about a teen gang in South London who defend their block from an alien invasion.

Speaker A:

It's simple.

Speaker B:

Okay, point accurate.

Speaker A:

My movie, listen, I picked this one because I remember watching this.

Speaker A:

I didn't watch it in theaters because I don't think it ever made it to the theaters in the States, but it was on Netflix for a while and I remember just sitting there scrolling through stuff and I was like, attack the block.

Speaker A:

That sounds interesting.

Speaker A:

And when you look at the poster you're like, okay, this looks like almost like Goonies defending the block, right?

Speaker A:

Like, that's what it looks like.

Speaker A:

So I was like, okay, I'm just gonna watch it.

Speaker A:

We'll see.

Speaker A:

What.

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I was bored.

Speaker A:

It's not what I thought it was going to be.

Speaker A:

And yet I found myself entertained and for a very weird reason.

Speaker A:

So one of the reasons that I find this one being a hidden gem, it again, it's a theme for me and two out of my three movies.

Speaker A:

And that is objectively not a good movie.

Speaker A:

However, I love that they tried with a very minimal budget and you can tell.

Speaker A:

And they get creative in a lot of ways.

Speaker A:

Like you see the aliens in certain ways, but the things that need actual special, special, special special effects, like the death scenes, like there's only a couple that actually get any kind of effects around it.

Speaker A:

Like a lot of them happen off screen or, you know, in a very cli.

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Close quarter.

Speaker A:

So they only have to do the face or they, you know what I mean?

Speaker A:

So you can see where they're, they're cutting corners to save cost in their budget.

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And then they try to make a.

Speaker B:

Movie.

Speaker A:

That has a point.

Speaker A:

They don't do very well with that.

Speaker A:

But I do like pieces of this movie.

Speaker A:

And I think that the interaction between a lot of these characters is really funny and really good.

Speaker A:

Especially in the, the midst of this very harrowing and shitty situation of like weird glowy faced aliens.

Speaker A:

And then there's like the most ridiculous reason that they're all chasing them down.

Speaker A:

And like, it's just, there's a lot of weird with this.

Speaker A:

But I love the effort that was put into it with a very small budget.

Speaker A:

And I'm kind of a fiend for shitty British movies.

Speaker A:

And so like that adds to this as well.

Speaker A:

But I find some of the characters, like the two younger.

Speaker A:

The really young kids that are, like, hilarious, okay?

Speaker A:

And then the fact that Nick Frost is in this movie as the big weed dealer and, like, the.

Speaker A:

It's hysterical.

Speaker A:

So there's so many interesting parts to this movie, but none of it comes together, admittedly, in a cohesive way.

Speaker A:

Like, it just feels very disjointed throughout the movie.

Speaker A:

With the only thing that's connected at all is the fact that there's this alien invasion happening, and they just so happen to all be coming to attack this one block of apartments, right?

Speaker A:

So it's just.

Speaker A:

It's wild.

Speaker A:

But I. I like it.

Speaker A:

I think it's entertaining.

Speaker A:

I like the fact that it's.

Speaker A:

They tried real hard and still made a terrible movie, but did it in such a way that they were like, we're just gonna do our thing.

Speaker A:

And then you can tell these little.

Speaker A:

These actors who.

Speaker A:

Some of them went on to have pretty decent careers for a minute, right?

Speaker A:

Like some.

Speaker A:

Like Boyega.

Speaker A:

Nick Frost had his own deal, which was happening before this.

Speaker A:

Jody Whitaker became the doctor for a minute, right?

Speaker A:

And then one of the guys.

Speaker A:

The guy wears the helmet and gets his face eaten with the helmet.

Speaker A:

The friend he was in, like, some of the WB TV shows, I think he was like the Flash or something.

Speaker A:

Like the other Flash, Wally west, for a minute.

Speaker A:

I don't remember.

Speaker A:

But, yeah, there was a lot of stuff that these guys went on to have careers probably because of this movie, because this movie got a lot of praise.

Speaker A:

Even as bad as it is, I do remember that, like, these people, a lot of people were like, attack the block's great.

Speaker B:

I'm like, sure, okay.

Speaker A:

Depends on who you ask.

Speaker A:

But, I mean, I like it, but I know it's not for everybody.

Speaker A:

I like it for very strange reasons.

Speaker A:

So anyway, that's why I picked it.

Speaker B:

That.

Speaker A:

And I knew one of these two movies, the last two movies you were gonna hate, I didn't know which one, but I had to hedge my bets and.

Speaker A:

And make sure there was at least something you were going to be hateful.

Speaker B:

About, because it was this one.

Speaker A:

You know, the beginning of my year was Needs.

Speaker A:

Needs Payback.

Speaker A:

So I. I found at least one.

Speaker B:

This.

Speaker B:

This movie was really out there.

Speaker B:

So I also enjoy stupid British humor, but it's because I view British humor as, like, subtly intelligent.

Speaker B:

If you look at Monty Python or Mr. Bean or, you know, several other comedians, British comedians, it's.

Speaker B:

It's all very intelligent humor.

Speaker B:

It's weird, it's out there.

Speaker B:

It's kind of off kilter from an American viewpoint.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

But it is also just absolutely beautifully intellectual.

Speaker B:

This was not that.

Speaker B:

And so I'm also very appreciative or, like, I really enjoy British slang.

Speaker B:

I think it is hilarious.

Speaker A:

And me too.

Speaker B:

We get a lot of that in the movie.

Speaker B:

But it's the same for.

Speaker A:

Oh, yeah, yeah.

Speaker B:

Like terms.

Speaker A:

Bro.

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

There's.

Speaker B:

There's far too many bruvs.

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

Which is just bro all the time.

Speaker B:

Bro, bro, bro, bro, bro, bro.

Speaker B:

So, like, I was.

Speaker B:

I was hoping for taking the mick.

Speaker B:

I love taking the mic or chuffed a bits.

Speaker B:

One of those would have been nice.

Speaker B:

But no, it was just a bunch of bruvs.

Speaker B:

Or true or.

Speaker B:

Well, I can't remember the other ones because it was just.

Speaker B:

It was just one thing after another.

Speaker A:

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker B:

And so there was.

Speaker B:

It was.

Speaker B:

There's a couple parts, but the.

Speaker B:

Most of the time I was just on.

Speaker B:

I think it was Jody Whitaker's side, where I was like, you know, it's a good thing nobody comes to me in any kind of emergency because if you're an absolute asshole to me, fuck you.

Speaker A:

Yeah, you're toast.

Speaker A:

I'm with you.

Speaker B:

Like.

Speaker B:

And I feel like that's not just this movie.

Speaker B:

This movie is the most recent one that I've watched where you have this.

Speaker B:

But, like, there's.

Speaker B:

There's a lot of movies that completely ignore the fact that, you know, you can be an absolute asshole to someone and then all of a sudden they're gonna help you out just because.

Speaker A:

Mm.

Speaker B:

Or like, you know, this unwritten code of nurses.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

And just so you have these brubs going on with also, like an incredibly.

Speaker B:

I hate using the word but entitled attitude.

Speaker B:

I was like, I don't really care if it is accurate or typical teenager stuff.

Speaker B:

I was like, it drives me nuts.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

And so for a lot of the interactions in this, I was like, ah, bruv.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

No, I mean, it's a lot.

Speaker B:

You're having a laugh, you're taking a piss, like.

Speaker B:

And so.

Speaker B:

So whereas last week there was enormous amounts of, like, good mixed in with all the shitty moments.

Speaker B:

This just had for me.

Speaker B:

A lot of shitty moments.

Speaker B:

And it was just like.

Speaker B:

Like, I'm supposed to sympathize with the gay and street youths.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

I was like.

Speaker B:

And I. I don't.

Speaker B:

Sorry.

Speaker B:

Like, sucks.

Speaker B:

You're the one that went after the alien because you up your face.

Speaker B:

Like, that's a you problem, dude.

Speaker B:

Fair enough.

Speaker B:

Like, that happens to me.

Speaker B:

I'm just going away with the Cool scar.

Speaker B:

And yeah, you know, life's good.

Speaker B:

Like, I'm not following this thing in the dark to go hunt it down, murk it in a shed somewhere and then display it as a trophy in my dealer's house.

Speaker A:

Like.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

And so like it's a, it's probably just me, but when I'm supposed to feel sorry for the kids as they're getting offed one by one because of revenge, kind of just like, you know what, how this wouldn't have happened is if you stayed home and inside.

Speaker B:

Because that's what I do and batshit hardly ever finds me.

Speaker A:

That's fair.

Speaker A:

That's fair.

Speaker B:

And so I had a hard time really relating to the main characters in the movie and, or really, you know, caring about them at all.

Speaker B:

So that was unfortunate for the movie.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

So, yeah, it was a bit of a.

Speaker B:

Bit of a drag.

Speaker B:

Even though it's not a very long time at an hour and 40 minutes or whatever it is.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

No, it's a pretty short run time too.

Speaker A:

That's.

Speaker A:

That's in order for it to be a hidden gem, in my opinion, it has to be some level of short.

Speaker B:

But I, it's also like, I think you.

Speaker B:

They missed an opportunity with the whole idea of the block.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

Because this concept of very contained works in a lot of just absolutely ridiculous movies where you have a very contained environment that you can operate in.

Speaker B:

And I think they missed the.

Speaker B:

Missed an opportunity for it to do.

Speaker B:

To really go just all out.

Speaker B:

And I think, you know, because it's your movie, right.

Speaker B:

You can do whatever you want to it.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

So I don't know, maybe it's.

Speaker B:

Maybe these things are weak to pints, so you just load up your Super Soaker with a little bit of beer and have at it in the hallways or something.

Speaker B:

Like lean into the ridiculousness a little bit more because it felt too.

Speaker B:

Trying to keep itself grounded with their disappearing aliens.

Speaker B:

That makes any sense.

Speaker B:

I try and stay.

Speaker B:

Trying to stay in the realm of realism, but you got aliens that are blacker than Dennis's cousin.

Speaker B:

So it's just, just lean on hard to the, to the disbelief suspension and go for broke and have some fun.

Speaker A:

Hilarious.

Speaker B:

Because I, I mean, my favorite characters in this, I think you said as well, was the little one, little six year old wannabe thugs or whatever.

Speaker A:

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker B:

Like they're, they're hilarious.

Speaker A:

They were great.

Speaker A:

They're taking out the one alien.

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

And so it's, it's funny, but it's just like that.

Speaker B:

They had 30 seconds of screen time.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

Not enough.

Speaker B:

And, you know, even the.

Speaker B:

The actual drug dealer.

Speaker B:

High rise.

Speaker A:

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker B:

Like, I liked what he was in when he was in as well, because you could have a lot more fun with that, but it was just like.

Speaker A:

Yeah, Just.

Speaker A:

Just didn't.

Speaker B:

Didn't.

Speaker B:

Didn't click with it at all.

Speaker B:

So thank you for that, jj.

Speaker B:

Thanks for opening up my eyes.

Speaker A:

You're welcome.

Speaker A:

This is.

Speaker A:

How funny this is.

Speaker A:

So I was like, it's been bothering me.

Speaker A:

I was telling you, this Luke Treadaway thing.

Speaker A:

It wasn't Luke Tread Away.

Speaker A:

His brother Harry, Treadaway twin, was in a TV show called Penny Dreadful as Victor Frankenstein.

Speaker A:

That's.

Speaker A:

I kept seeing him.

Speaker A:

I was like, I know that face.

Speaker A:

But anyhow, odd.

Speaker A:

So I.

Speaker A:

But I couldn't find, like, any kind of filmography that I was like, That I recognized from the guy in this movie, but it was his brother.

Speaker A:

That's where I was like.

Speaker A:

And they are twins.

Speaker A:

Like, and they look.

Speaker A:

Yeah, they're twin twins.

Speaker A:

Like, they're actual identical twins.

Speaker A:

Anywho.

Speaker A:

But, yeah, like, I think.

Speaker A:

I don't know.

Speaker A:

I go back to all the time with this movie.

Speaker A:

The fact that you can tell that everybody on this film was given it all.

Speaker A:

You know what I mean?

Speaker A:

Like, and I think I probably give it way too much credit than it deserves because of that.

Speaker A:

But, like, I. I also appreciate.

Speaker A:

We've talked a lot about this, that I think the film industry is.

Speaker A:

I don't know, it's in this weird place because I don't think it's in trouble.

Speaker A:

Like, I don't think the film industry is dying, but I think it's fundamentally changed, and it's continually changing right now because movie theaters are getting.

Speaker A:

Becoming a thing of the past.

Speaker A:

It's too expensive.

Speaker A:

It's.

Speaker A:

People don't want to go out and typically don't want to leave their houses.

Speaker A:

And especially with the advent of.

Speaker A:

I know, right?

Speaker A:

The advent of streaming and the fact that you don't have to wait.

Speaker A:

I know.

Speaker A:

We talked about this on the podcast a lot, too.

Speaker A:

It used to be you had to wait a long time to be able to get it on VHS or DVD or whatever.

Speaker A:

And now it's.

Speaker A:

It's weeks.

Speaker A:

Like, I mean, it's been less than two months, and you can already watch movies that were in the theater, you know, a couple months ago.

Speaker B:

Like, in June.

Speaker A:

Yeah, exactly.

Speaker A:

Like, I was just sitting here thinking.

Speaker A:

I'm like, okay, so they're already talking about the Mandalorian and Grogu being on Disney plus there was another one that was like almost immediately out on Moana 2.

Speaker A:

Yeah, Moana too.

Speaker B:

But yeah, if you don't do well at the box office, you just stream.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

You just move to streaming and then they.

Speaker A:

There's no real like ratings don't mean anymore.

Speaker A:

At least from a streaming perspective.

Speaker A:

of those things where even in:

Speaker A:

Right.

Speaker A:

Like most movies that used.

Speaker A:

I remember when I was a kid, in fact, we go back to the rundown.

Speaker A:

The Rundown doesn't get made today.

Speaker B:

Nope.

Speaker A:

Because there's no chance that it's going to be a blockbuster.

Speaker A:

And in order for it to almost.

Speaker A:

Almost exclusively now, in order for it to get a big theatrical run, it's gotta be at least have an inkling that it could be a blockbuster.

Speaker A:

Or it's got to be made by one of these studios that doesn't matter if they lose money.

Speaker A:

So they're willing to release movies to lose money for some tax write offs.

Speaker B:

Right.

Speaker A:

Like this movie.

Speaker A:

So when I see movies like this that were like it, we're gonna make a movie and it's gonna probably suck because we don't have a budget and we don't have actors.

Speaker A:

Though surprisingly, they had more like to get Nick Frost and to get.

Speaker A:

And I guess at the time, you know, some of these guys weren't.

Speaker A:

They weren't at all back then.

Speaker A:

But like, I love a movie.

Speaker A:

I guess what I'm trying to say is I love these movies that we're still trying.

Speaker A:

These little studios, these little filmmakers that were like it.

Speaker A:

We're gonna make a movie, we're gonna lose our ass.

Speaker A:

People are gonna hate it.

Speaker A:

And then to find some semblance of success and then to be able to see some careers that were built off of something like this, I have a fond affection for that.

Speaker A:

Because we don't see it anymore.

Speaker A:

And it's a pretty original concept, even though it steals from a lot of other things.

Speaker A:

To be able to combine those things and you be like, you know what?

Speaker A:

We're gonna make this like gangster downtown, like South London gang member, like little street gang movie.

Speaker A:

We're gonna put in some aliens with glowing green teeth and eyes because that's about the budget that we have.

Speaker A:

We'll get those shitty gorilla suits, put some people in them, make the teeth grow, glow and the eyes glow.

Speaker A:

And then look at what we got.

Speaker A:

We got aliens.

Speaker A:

And then we'll make it about pheromones and why the not how they.

Speaker A:

But I also thought that's actually pretty clever.

Speaker A:

Like, from the perspective of, okay, the aliens come down, there's one female and a bunch of males, and the idea is to reproduce and take over this world because that's all they do, right?

Speaker A:

And I.

Speaker A:

So, I mean, I don't know.

Speaker A:

There was a lot of interesting things to me that made me think and go, okay, okay.

Speaker A:

But they couldn't pull it off in a way that you're like, okay, you.

Speaker A:

You did the thing.

Speaker A:

You're just like, you did the thing.

Speaker A:

You know what I mean?

Speaker A:

There's a stark difference in making a movie, doing it well and having it work because you did it well.

Speaker A:

And with this, do making a movie, doing it the best you can, and having it find some modicum of success because it's unique and it's different and it's weird and it has some funny moments and some interesting parts.

Speaker A:

So it got more success than it probably deserved.

Speaker A:

Because the other thing that you look at is even a lot of the actors.

Speaker A:

And probably at this point, outside of Nick Frost and maybe Luke Tread Away, which I don't think he's done much either.

Speaker A:

But, like, John Boyega and Jody Whitaker are your two biggest.

Speaker A:

And even John Boyega at this point doesn't have much of a career.

Speaker A:

Now, that's partially his own damn fault because he can't keep his pie hole shut, but.

Speaker A:

Sorry, I shouldn't have said that out loud.

Speaker A:

He's allowed to say whatever he wants, but you shoot yourself in the dick, then it's your own fault.

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

And then Jody Whitaker, I. I feel bad for her because she's great in a lot of things that she's been in since this movie.

Speaker A:

And I thought she was a decent doctor, but there was, you know, the neck beards can't handle a woman as a doctor.

Speaker A:

So it turned into a problem with Jody Whitaker versus the fact that maybe or maybe not, they shouldn't have had a female doctor, but that's a shitty reason for her to have a tough career post anyway.

Speaker A:

That's a lot of weird shit for me to talk about, but, like, those are the things that this movie gets me thinking about.

Speaker A:

And I like it because of what it is, not what it could have been.

Speaker B:

No, I like where you're going.

Speaker B:

The thing is, though, I feel like a lot of it is Hollywood got lazy and they're.

Speaker B:

They're just continuing to get more and more lazy.

Speaker B:

And the problem is you got, you know, your.

Speaker B:

Your big studios that pretty much own everything, right?

Speaker B:

And they control most of what's made or what happened.

Speaker B:

So they are going for these blockbusters.

Speaker B:

And the indie film industry has been.

Speaker B:

Not super great.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

Over the last little bit.

Speaker B:

And so this would qualify for that.

Speaker B:

But the problem I have with it is like, it almost feels like they didn't do much past, hey, we have this idea and we're going to make a movie because we need to go for it.

Speaker B:

And what I'm going to use in my reasoning example, even though it's very recent, is do you know the YouTuber Markiplier?

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

So he came out with a movie recently.

Speaker B:

Phenomenal reviews, raving.

Speaker B:

So it was just him and it was based on the game Iron Lung.

Speaker A:

Okay.

Speaker B:

So the movie was just him.

Speaker B:

Right.

Speaker B:

That's all he's got to work out.

Speaker B:

But he couldn't get it financed or something like that or couldn't get any help from anybody.

Speaker B:

So he put all the money in, took this thing, you know, just dragged it across the finish line, spent years on doing it, but really put in the time, effort and everything.

Speaker B:

And he did it, did very well.

Speaker B:

So much that they had to like keep expanding release to theaters and more and more theaters because more and more people wanted it.

Speaker B:

And so, yeah, you have an indie creator who.

Speaker B:

Blood, Sweat and tears.

Speaker B:

And really that's what it is is if you don't have the big studio backing where you can put out an odyssey type budget or a. Yeah.

Speaker B:

Type of thing, then you're gonna be left with blood, Sweat and tears in order to make it happen.

Speaker B:

Or you can write up real quick, film it in three days, put it on, you know, streaming and hope you get lucky type of a thing.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

And so it's, it's.

Speaker B:

This feels almost like that to me, where it's like you guys, you know, a basic idea.

Speaker B:

Right.

Speaker B:

And.

Speaker B:

But it's almost like, oh, hey, we, we should do a movie.

Speaker B:

It was like, you know, you, I and Javier got together, like, hey, we got this movie idea, right.

Speaker B:

Let's film it and, you know, add a little bit here, a little bit here, and here we go.

Speaker B:

So it's just like for.

Speaker B:

That's how I looked at it for the most part.

Speaker B:

So while I was watching, I was like, this is kind of lazy.

Speaker B:

Fair enough.

Speaker B:

It was like you're.

Speaker B:

You're missing out on so much and you do have.

Speaker B:

As we can, you kind of see you have star capability.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

In your cast.

Speaker B:

Right.

Speaker B:

It's not like you just went out and 1, 2, 3, 4, from South London, hop in.

Speaker B:

Like, we're gonna go film a movie.

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

So you have, you have the ability there.

Speaker B:

It's just, it feel.

Speaker B:

It feels like it was, oh, we'll make an indie film and, you know, it'll do great.

Speaker A:

Yeah, yeah.

Speaker B:

Just.

Speaker B:

That's my two cents on it.

Speaker A:

It's like, you know, I'm with you.

Speaker A:

I think my problem, like, the thing that I always get a little is the ending.

Speaker A:

Like, the ending leaves me just completely and utter.

Speaker A:

But here's the worst part is like, I get what they were trying to do because the one thing that I don't, and I've talked about this a ton on the podcast too, is I don't love forced social commentary.

Speaker A:

I like it when it makes sense.

Speaker A:

And there was, it felt to me like there was some, some decent social commentary in this, but then there was a lot of forced social commentary that I was like, this isn't really the, the right forum to be going.

Speaker A:

Like, I get what you're saying.

Speaker A:

I don't disagree with you, but how do I take that seriously when I've got glowing mouth gorillas chasing me down the hall?

Speaker A:

Like, I can't, you know, because the aliens just weren't convincing.

Speaker A:

Like, I'd almost rather have the aliens be more like.

Speaker A:

And I don't even love this movie.

Speaker A:

The what's the signs?

Speaker A:

Like, yeah, those aliens in that situation would have been a better.

Speaker A:

Almost a better idea, right?

Speaker A:

Because the aliens just didn't come out as well as I think they wanted them to.

Speaker A:

And I get budget constraints, whatever, but I needed to feel a little more dread when I see these things.

Speaker A:

Besides, just like, they look goofy, but then if they get a hold of you, you're pretty.

Speaker A:

But I.

Speaker A:

The social commentary that's riddled throughout it, like, when it works, it kind of works.

Speaker A:

When it doesn't work, it doesn't work at all.

Speaker A:

And you're like, oh, here we go.

Speaker A:

Yeah, here we go.

Speaker A:

And that's the.

Speaker A:

The.

Speaker A:

What really gets me is that they.

Speaker A:

The ending is based off of those social commentary situations in a lot of like where they're cheering this kid from the block who starts the movie as a petty thief slash London south gang member and.

Speaker A:

Or South London gang member to this hero.

Speaker A:

And I'm all about a good redemption storyline and hero like.

Speaker A:

But then it turns into they're all cheering him on and they're cheer.

Speaker A:

And it's like, that's for you.

Speaker A:

And he's like, yeah, smiles and.

Speaker A:

And I'm like, you didn't earn that because your social commentary didn't work up until that point.

Speaker A:

If you had leaned more into the social commentary aspect of it throughout this movie and had it be more poignant throughout instead of just John Boyega going on a goddamn rant in a.

Speaker A:

In a weed room about twice, I think the same story where it's like, well, no, they.

Speaker A:

The government sent these to take out.

Speaker A:

Take us out in the.

Speaker A:

In the streets.

Speaker A:

Right.

Speaker A:

And then there was another version of it where I'm just like, oh, come on.

Speaker A:

I'm not saying you're wrong, but I'm saying you did it poorly and.

Speaker A:

And therefore you're ending.

Speaker A:

Which to me, and I've talked about this a million times, is.

Speaker A:

Is arguably the most important part of your movie.

Speaker A:

Doesn't land because you didn't put in the right work early on.

Speaker A:

And I don't know, you can blame.

Speaker A:

Join up John Boyega, you can blame the writing.

Speaker A:

You can.

Speaker A:

Whatever you want to blame.

Speaker A:

It just didn't work throughout the movie.

Speaker A:

the state of south London in:

Speaker B:

Right.

Speaker A:

Like, so when you end it on that note of.

Speaker A:

This is about south London in:

Speaker A:

We need aliens to overcome that.

Speaker A:

Like, it didn't, it didn't pay off for me.

Speaker A:

There's so many better versions of social commentary.

Speaker A:

Movies that didn't.

Speaker A:

Weren't made around that, but infused it well enough that I went, now that's a payoff.

Speaker A:

So I always lose it by the end.

Speaker A:

Like, I usually will stop watching when they load them up in the paddy wagon at the end.

Speaker A:

I'm like, I don't want to see the cheer because I, I'm just like, I know there's no payoff of them getting out of it.

Speaker A:

And I don't care enough about your social commentary.

Speaker A:

How you presented it in this movie for me to feel like your ending is satisfying at that point.

Speaker A:

I just don't.

Speaker B:

Yeah, I, I agree with what you're saying.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

It's just, I mean, because at that point just lean.

Speaker B:

And I would rather you lean heavy into it and instead of aliens, you actually make it the government.

Speaker A:

Sure.

Speaker B:

But, you know, dark.

Speaker B:

Dark Knight teams or whatever.

Speaker B:

And now it's the aliens become a thing because people are missing from the block.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

And aliens are the explanation.

Speaker B:

This or that.

Speaker B:

And then.

Speaker B:

Then you have room for that social commentary, I think.

Speaker B:

But this was like, okay, here we go.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

And John, I think for me it was a lot of John Boyega's delivery.

Speaker A:

True.

Speaker B:

Because he kept in character of this kind of hard nose, you know, Moses.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

Grew up in the streets, bro.

Speaker B:

And it's just like.

Speaker B:

So he keeps that same energy and everything.

Speaker B:

Just, you know, mean mugging it, I guess.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

And it's just, it's almost laughable because you're like, dude, you're being hunted by dog, gorilla, wolf, aliens.

Speaker B:

And you're gonna see your government doesn't like me.

Speaker B:

It's like so I couldn't get behind it because.

Speaker A:

Sure.

Speaker B:

Like.

Speaker B:

Okay, but if, if you change it and you make the aliens more abstract, right.

Speaker B:

So we don't actually see them or know what they are getting.

Speaker B:

You kind of feel for them and now you have.

Speaker B:

People are getting nabbed up from the block, then you have this social commentary before we even see the aliens.

Speaker B:

Right.

Speaker B:

Or we see glimpses of the aliens.

Speaker B:

Then.

Speaker B:

Yeah, make it, make it a social commentary because people are getting pulled out of South London for some, I don't know, stupid government gentrification program or whatever.

Speaker B:

Yeah, anything you could, you could do whatever you want and make the social commentary.

Speaker B:

And then I'd be like, haha, okay, you got me.

Speaker B:

Clever.

Speaker B:

I like it.

Speaker B:

I'm on board.

Speaker A:

Yep.

Speaker B:

But this is just like you guys introduced aliens and then it was like, oh yeah, they're only contained to the block and the, the feds are keeping them, keeping everything.

Speaker B:

Now it's like, yeah, okay, well leave the block.

Speaker A:

Yeah, yeah,.

Speaker B:

You saw your problem right now.

Speaker A:

Yeah, well, and I, I agree with you.

Speaker A:

Like, you make a good point with John Boyega.

Speaker A:

Like he.

Speaker A:

To be able to have social commentary like that work the way they were trying to do it, you have to have some level of like, what's the word I'm looking for?

Speaker A:

Like emotional availability.

Speaker A:

And because of the character he was playing, like there is no there room for that.

Speaker A:

There's no vulnerability.

Speaker B:

Right.

Speaker A:

Like, and so I don't believe it the way that I could.

Speaker A:

If, if you have a little more vulnerability in your delivery and like how it feels like it's a problem instead of just another day on the block and just with aliens, instead of the government.

Speaker A:

Right.

Speaker A:

The feds, it's like, so I'm with you.

Speaker A:

Like, I, I didn't think about that.

Speaker A:

So that's a good call out.

Speaker A:

Like his delivery doesn't help move that narrative at all.

Speaker A:

And since he's the one that's always making the narrative like that, making those, that commentary, it's hard to like really have it tie in, let alone the Nature of the movie that it's, they're trying to tie it into doesn't work either.

Speaker B:

So.

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

And to add to it, like then, then if you know this we talked about before, you pull me out, I'm gonna start nitpicking every little thing fair.

Speaker B:

And so it's, it's like I get pulled out from that and then I'm going through and it's like, much as you want the social commentary to work, I'll push it back on you in the sense of, hey, guess why you're in this problem to begin with.

Speaker B:

You went out, you killed the alien dude.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

Like the, the government may have sent them, but you went out and killed it.

Speaker B:

Like, so you're now pulling back and now things aren't going your way.

Speaker B:

Right.

Speaker B:

Because the entire movie he's, he's kingpin running the show.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

And then it's like, oh, things aren't going your way.

Speaker B:

You know, now your buddies are getting knocked off and it's like, the government's doing this to me, man.

Speaker B:

Didn't do to you this evening.

Speaker A:

Yeah, right.

Speaker B:

Like it probably done a lot of to you over time, but sure.

Speaker B:

Consequence of your own action.

Speaker B:

Like, you went out, you went out and decided to off this alien.

Speaker B:

Like, yeah, now it's time to pay the piper.

Speaker B:

So it's, it's so now because your social commentary was, you know, ham handedly slapped on there.

Speaker B:

I'm gonna go and I'm about.

Speaker B:

Okay, you know, let's see what we got here.

Speaker A:

Yeah, yeah, yeah, let's go down the list.

Speaker A:

No, it's a good call out.

Speaker A:

It's a good call out.

Speaker A:

Not something I had thought about previous to this.

Speaker A:

So should we rate it?

Speaker A:

All right, brother, listen, this one's my movie and partially I did this one to with you.

Speaker A:

The last two.

Speaker A:

This one seemed to be the one that stuck with that, that, that goal in mind.

Speaker A:

I'm gonna give it a three.

Speaker A:

We talked a lot of on it and I will continue to talk a lot of on it.

Speaker A:

But I do have fun with this movie.

Speaker A:

I think is the best way to explain it.

Speaker A:

Like, I don't even think I'm fully entertained.

Speaker A:

I just have fun.

Speaker A:

And maybe that's the same thing, it's just a different level of entertainment.

Speaker A:

But like, there are very funny moments in this movie.

Speaker A:

Like especially the kids and then the dude that's locked in the garbage bin the whole time, but talking on the phone, like they come back to him and I'm like, why are we back here?

Speaker A:

But I swear to God, it's only so we could have the little kids taking on the alien and like talking a bunch of.

Speaker A:

And then losing their minds when they win.

Speaker A:

It's just, it was great.

Speaker A:

And then you do have some interesting action sequences and I do think that it was a unique take on an alien invasion.

Speaker A:

And I think that there's a lot of potential within the story and the, the, the way that they do it, I don't think they pulled it off.

Speaker A:

And you know, budget maybe or lack of resources or who, who knows?

Speaker A:

But I love the concept and I love the idea of it.

Speaker A:

And so because of that I lean into it and again I go back to.

Speaker A:

I, I appreciate the effort that was put into it on some level.

Speaker A:

See, I'm entertained.

Speaker A:

Is it, is it the greatest movie ever made?

Speaker A:

No.

Speaker A:

But do I find myself entertained?

Speaker A:

I do.

Speaker A:

So three for me, I want to give it more, but it never earned it.

Speaker A:

But it did earn a spot in my.

Speaker B:

Just.

Speaker A:

Everyone should watch Attack the Block at least once because it's unique and weird and funny and interesting and terrible all at the same time.

Speaker A:

So there it is.

Speaker A:

I'll probably watch it, but it's probably been 10 years at least since I watched this movie last, so it'll probably be another 10, 15 years before I touch it again, but there it is.

Speaker A:

What about you, Alec?

Speaker B:

I don't agree.

Speaker B:

Nobody should watch this movie.

Speaker B:

I'm.

Speaker B:

I have to give it like a one and a half.

Speaker A:

Sure.

Speaker B:

Like, I was, I was so upset while watching it because it was like this because it could have in my mind, been really good.

Speaker B:

Yeah, you had all the right pieces.

Speaker B:

You could have had a really, really good independent film.

Speaker B:

And it just felt like it was half assed for the most part.

Speaker B:

All the way through to me there, there was humorous moments, but I didn't laugh because I was kind of annoyed overall at everything else going on.

Speaker B:

And so it was more like a hey rather than in last week and run down full belly laughs going.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

And so watching this, it was much more muted and I was just like, really?

Speaker B:

This is.

Speaker B:

Even though this month we've really had four that were personal hidden gems, more or less.

Speaker B:

Like this is the only one where I was like, how long left is there just son of a.

Speaker B:

And so I wasn't really engaged with it for the most part.

Speaker B:

And so I like, I will not watch it again.

Speaker B:

Yeah, I don't see myself ever really watching again.

Speaker B:

But it was just, it was like you almost had it.

Speaker B:

Good game.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

But yeah, one and a Half for me.

Speaker A:

Fair enough.

Speaker A:

Fair enough.

Speaker A:

There it is.

Speaker A:

Attack the Block the final week of August.

Speaker A:

Looking forward to September.

Speaker A:

Should be fun.

Speaker A:

But Alec, tell everybody where they can find us when we're not dodging alien invasions in South London.

Speaker B:

Happy to.

Speaker B:

You can find us dodging alien invasions in north London.

Speaker B:

No, YouTube is the best place to see our happy faces.

Speaker B:

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Speaker B:

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Speaker B:

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Speaker B:

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Speaker A:

That's right.

Speaker A:

Thanks Alec.

Speaker A:

Appreciate it.

Speaker A:

Check all those places out.

Speaker A:

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Speaker A:

We'll catch you on the next one.

Speaker A:

That could not have picked the better time for you out of there.

Speaker A:

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Speaker A:

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Speaker A:

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