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200: I Owe You An Honest Update
Episode 200 • Bonus Episode • 3rd March 2026 • Data Career Podcast: Helping You Land a Data Analyst Job FAST • Avery Smith - Data Career Coach
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I wanted to give you a real update. I talk openly about the struggles, lessons, and decisions happening behind the scenes and where I want to take the podcast next. If you have been listening for a while, this one is for you.

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01:39 - Moving to Spain and recording challenges

04:11 - Being a dad and my ADHD diagnosis

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14:18 - The thumbnail problem: negativity gets more views

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Speaker:

Hey guys, it's Avery.

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I owe you guys an honest update.

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So in this episode, I'm gonna talk

about some of the setbacks I've been

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facing, some of the solutions I've

found, and what's coming next for

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me and my life, and for this podcast

and this YouTube channel in general.

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Uh, but first, this is

actually my 200th episode.

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Of doing the Data Career podcast

and posting it on YouTube as well.

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So, woo hoo party.

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Um, I started this podcast in April

of 2021, so we're almost coming up

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on five years of doing the podcast.

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I did take like an eight month hiatus.

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We can talk about that

later, but it's crazy.

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I never really thought that.

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I'd be doing this for five years.

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When I started the podcast, I just did

it because I quit my corporate job and I

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loved podcasts and I loved data obviously.

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And so I wanna talk about data with

other people and have more cool data

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podcasts, and it's crazy to see where

it's grown over the last five years.

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I mean, we have 62,000 subscribers

on YouTube, the podcast.

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Um, I wrote, I wrote down some notes.

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I hope that's okay if I read those.

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Uh, the podcast has 610

reviews on Spotify at 4.9

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stars.

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It has 162 reviews on

Apple Podcasts at 5.0

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Stars.

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So like, that's absolutely crazy.

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Um, we've shared some pretty cool

interviews, some pretty cool podcasts

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or success stories of students who've

gone through my program and pivoted

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from, you know, whatever career they

had beforehand into data analytics,

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which was super cool and I've learned

a lot through the podcast, uh, as well.

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Um, okay.

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Now to the update, I wanna

give you a life update.

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So the first thing is, if you're

watching on YouTube, you obviously can

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tell I am not in my usual home studio.

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Um, and you've probably noticed for

the last few videos I haven't been, and

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the reason is, is I actually moved to

Spain for the first quarter of 2026 and.

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That's been really cool.

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It's had a lot of ups and downs.

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Um, one of the downs is I'm living

in the coast Adel soul, which is

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the like sunny coast basically.

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Um, and it hasn't been sunny at all.

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I like left my jacket on

just so I could show you.

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And I tried to like show you

guys these windows just to see,

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it's like constantly raining.

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Um, which has just had its challenges

because, uh, I'm here with my wife and.

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My two kids.

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Um, that's something that's changed

since I started the podcast.

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I've had two kids in the last two

years, so they're both really young and

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close in age, which is a huge blessing,

but obviously just makes everything

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more complicated and we're staying

in kind of like a small apartment.

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Uh, there's no place for me to record

these types of episodes at home.

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And so I go to this coworking space.

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And in this coworking space,

there's usually people working here.

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So doing an episode that kind of

looks like this isn't really feasible.

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So I've been recording, let me show you.

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I've been recording in like

these booths over there.

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Um, and they're just, they're

just not very big, you know?

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Um, they're just not very big.

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So I feel like the video

quality has been a little.

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Uh, interesting lately 'cause I've

just been in these like tiny booths

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and I've been shooting on my iPhone.

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Um, and I just like learned

some of the settings today that

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allows me to do like this 0.5,

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like more of a full frame video,

which I was like, I wish I knew that

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when I was shooting in the booths.

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'cause those booths are tiny.

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And also I finally figured

out how to disable.

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Like if I do a thumbs up, the

iPhone doesn't like, put the

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thumbs up emoji on the video.

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And I had some balloons in

I think last week's video.

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So, uh, I'm learning all this as I go.

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I'm not obviously like.

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I don't have my nicer

camera and my nicer mic.

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I'm using these mics and

they just don't work.

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Right.

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So, um, that's why if

you're like, where is he at?

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I'm in Spain.

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Um, by the time you guys watch this,

I'll be headed home pretty soon.

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So, um, future videos will not have

me in Spain, but, uh, the videos

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you're seeing right now, I'm in

Spain, which has been awesome.

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It's been really cool to just

like get out of the US experience

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different culture, work on my Spanish.

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Um, live by a beach.

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Uh, it's been, it's been really cool, but

obviously it's had had some challenges

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for producing this, this type of content.

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Um, some other big updates in my life.

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Like I said earlier, I have two kids now.

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I'm a dad and that has become

my first and foremost job.

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Uh, I used to be a data analyst

and then I was a data scientist.

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Uh, and then I quit that

job and I was a CEO and.

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Uh, a founder and a

teacher and a podcast host.

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Um, but now the number one

role in my life is father.

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And that takes a lot of time.

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Those of you that, that have

kids know what I'm talking about.

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I swear.

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Just like putting my kids to sleep

right now takes me two hours.

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Um, and then I spend like probably

an hour, an hour and a half with the

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younger kid in the mornings before

my oldest and my wife wake up.

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So it's just like three and

a half hours is just like.

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My kids.

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My kids, getting my kids to sleep

or getting them up in the morning.

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So obviously all you parents

know, it's just a lot of time.

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So my time has gone really

down in the last two years just

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because I'm focusing on my number

one role, which is being a dad.

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Um, and another life update that

I've been, I don't know why.

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I've been like procrastinating doing this

and I've been like not embarrassed to

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share 'cause I'm not embarrassed about it.

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But I've been like waiting for

the right moment and I just.

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Don't feel like there is a right moment.

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So this feels as good a time as any,

um, that's been a pretty big adjustment

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I'd say to my life is last year, about

a year ago, I was diagnosed with a DHD.

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Um, which is so funny because I never

in my life thought I'd have a DH

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ADHD or I thought I did have a DHD.

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Um, but just after a bunch of like

tests and therapy, it's like, oh yeah.

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Um, maybe I do have DH adhd.

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It took me about, uh, about eight

months after I was diagnosed to

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actually like, start to believe it

and, uh, actually get medicated.

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So, uh, I've been doing

medication for like the last,

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let's see, about five months now.

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And it's been really life changing.

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Um.

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I like, feel like I can actually

think and focus a little bit more.

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Um, and so I'm still like

figuring all that out and figuring

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out how to stay organized.

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'cause I'm just not organized.

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I'm not an organized person.

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Um, I don't schedule things well

anyway, so this diagnosis of a DH ADHD

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has helped me understand myself better

and understand the world around me a

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little bit better, and also given me the

opportunity to get Medicaid, which has

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given me some focus, some focus time.

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But that being said, I'm still like

a really hot mess in terms of my

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organization and thinking and, um, it's

just something I'm working through.

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Um, for those of you who.

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You know, maybe don't have a DHD or don't

really know anyone with a DH adhd, you're

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probably like, what is he talking about?

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And if you have a DH ADHD or you're,

you know, you live with someone who

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has a DHD, you're like, I feel you.

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I know exactly what you're saying.

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Uh, but that's just been a big change in

my life, uh, with the kids with A DHD.

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Um, and then also I've been, I've been

trying to do more things other than the

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podcast, obviously the YouTube videos.

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Um, we've been running the accelerator,

all these cohorts of the accelerator,

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which takes time and effort, which is

the data analyst bootcamp that I run.

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And I also rolled out my

own job board last year.

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My own little data, junior

data analyst, AI companion.

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Last year we started taking the

newsletter a lot more serious last year.

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Um, we try, we redid all of interview

simulator from scratch last year.

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So it's just been, my mind's been

in like a hundred different places

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and my time's gone down and I'm

disorganized and I have a DHD.

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So, um, I tried to hire the last

year or so to try to get some help.

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And I found some really awesome people,

um, to help me and I've also found some

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really not awesome people, uh, to help me.

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Let, let me explain that here.

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Lemme make sure I'm not missing anything.

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Yeah.

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Um, so if you're a part of the

accelerator, you know, I have Trevor

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and Cynthia who are two of the mentors

in the program that you see a lot.

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And we have Isaac, our community

manager, and they've been awesome.

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And they're really great in helping

me in helping all the students

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inside the accelerator program.

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Um, but you probably don't see any

of the people behind the scenes.

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So for example, I hired a podcast

producer to like, help, um, with like

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show notes and just help publish things

and coordinate guests and all that stuff.

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And, um, I had a, a decent

one for a few months.

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Anyways.

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I found this producer, um, let's just say.

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They basically stole money from me.

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Uh, then I hired a different

producer after them, and that

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producer was signed everything and

then just never showed up to work.

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And so that was just like eight weeks

of my life of the podcast life that

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was just like really hectic because

I was basically doing everything, uh,

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while they weren't doing the work.

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Um, so that was a really

big, uh, loss for me.

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Um, just mostly time,

to be perfectly honest.

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Like mostly time.

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It was just.

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Exhausting.

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Trying to train them on everything

and then to have them basically

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screw me over was not super fun.

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Um, so anyways, I've been trying to, to

hire and that's been some of the issues.

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Um, hopefully by the time this video

comes out, we're in a little bit more of

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a stable situation with the, uh, podcast

producer, and it makes this process

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of actually getting these podcasts out

to you on time and everything, right?

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Like some of you guys have noticed that

some of the timestamps have been off,

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um, or links have been missing or those

different things, and it's just kind

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of, because I'm trying to figure out

how to get some help in that process.

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With that.

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Um, this is the honest update

about like the podcast and the

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YouTube channel in particular.

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Now, that was kind of my life update and

a little bit of a company update, I guess.

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But in terms of the life update,

I wanna tell you guys, uh, a

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little bit about the, the podcast.

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So like I said, you guys are awesome.

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Like, thank you.

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I cannot thank you guys enough

for listening, downloading,

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sharing with friends.

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Putting comments, writing a review,

whatever, like, thank you guys.

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Like from my bottom of my heart.

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It's so crazy.

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Um, the amount of people that, uh,

listen to me yap about data and, and

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careers and, um, I don't want to,

I'll always be grateful for that,

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um, even if I don't say it enough.

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So thank you.

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I, I really appreciate it.

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Um.

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The podcast, you know, we've

grown the podcast to one of the

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top data podcasts that there is.

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Um, there's only like, basically we're

in the top five any way you look at it.

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Um, but I got to a point where we

were getting 20,000 downloads a month.

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So that's like if I release four

episodes, you know, one a week for.

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Weeks and a month about, um, the episodes

are getting about 5,000 downloads,

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uh, a week, uh, for per episode.

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But I, we were stuck there for like

eight months and I was like, how

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the heck do you grow a podcast?

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It's podcasts are so interesting because.

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There's not really like an

algorithm necessarily, right?

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So it's not like you can just go

viral with one episode and then, you

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know, you gain all these listeners.

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Uh, it's really hard to grow a podcast.

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And so, um, I really believe in education.

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Um, I've been able to, uh, like increase

my income a lot through education.

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Um, and so I actually ended up

joining this program, it's called

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Podcasting, like a YouTuber, um,

from this guy named Jay Klaus.

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It's all about how YouTube's really

important for podcasts now, and

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actually at the time, I had basically

moved all of my podcast listening.

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From Spotify to YouTube.

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And one of the big reasons

why is I have YouTube premium.

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Um, there would be on Spotify

and there's video and who doesn't

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like to watch sometimes, right?

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Um, and so I was like, oh, okay, I need

to start taking YouTube more seriously.

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And so I started learning about, you

know, how to actually create a good

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video podcast and how to do YouTube

titles and YouTube thumbnails.

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And we tried to.

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a little bit more YouTube.

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'cause before we were a podcast,

we did audio episodes that

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happened to go onto YouTube.

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Just a second happened.

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And if, if you're on YouTube, you can

go scroll, scroll through, I don't

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know, basically stuff that's like a year

and a half old, maybe two years old.

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didn't really consider thumbnails.

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just kinda an afterthought.

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Uh, but I started to really like

double down on just video quality

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and good thumbnails and good titles.

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And kind of become YouTube

first, who happens to just

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also post on a podcast as well.

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And that's been really cool because

we've had so many more people listening.

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Like we have one episode on

YouTube that has over 500,000,

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has half a million views.

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Um, and it took me so long to get to

the point of my podcast where we even

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had half a million downloads in total.

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So we reached like a whole new audience,

had a lot of success on YouTube, uh, like.

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Quadrupled our subscribers

in a few months.

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Um, and that was, that was cool

because we were reaching new audience.

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My message was getting to, to

new people about, you know, you

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don't have to have a degree.

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You don't, you're not too

old, you're not too dumb.

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This isn't too hard.

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The SPN method is the way to go.

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You need more than skills

to land your first data job.

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You know, start with like the

easy low hanging fruit skills

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like SQL and Excel and Tableau.

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My message was reaching a whole

new audience and a lot more people.

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But at the same time, I almost feel

like I was ignoring all of you loyal

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podcast listeners because these viewers

on YouTube, they're great, and if you're

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one of them, thank you for watching.

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But they're not loyal necessarily.

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Like you podcast listeners.

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The podcast listeners, listen

every week, the YouTube people,

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they come and they go, um.

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So that's just like a hard balance.

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It's like, I wanna be loyal to the

podcast listeners, but I also realize

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that my message goes further on YouTube.

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So that's something I'm trying to balance.

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And, and also on YouTube, it's really easy

to, like, if you want a lot of views to

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create content that maybe doesn't, it's

not necessarily what people actually need.

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The stuff that that goes viral.

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It goes viral, but it's not necessarily

like, it's like, it's like candy.

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It's like, oh, it's good, but it's like,

this isn't what's going to make you grow

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into a strong data analyst necessarily.

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There's some stuff that I think that that

overlaps, but this is something I've just

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been struggling with, um, and I've also

been struggling with like thumbnails.

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Um, because like for example, I

created, uh, a YouTube episode a while

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ago, and I, I have it pulled up here.

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What's it called?

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It is called, I mean, it was a podcast

episode too, but it's called My Honest

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Thoughts on the Data Job Market in

2026, and I thought it was a really

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good video because it like talks about

just actual data, what's going on.

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And the spoiler alert, the conclusion

is we've been pretty stagnant.

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Things haven't gotten worse,

but they haven't gotten better.

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My whole picture is, I actually

think they'll probably get a little

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bit better this year, but not a ton.

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Um, data engineering's up quite a bit over

the last few years, and it was just like

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raw, like, Hey, I don't think things are

terrible, like everyone says they are,

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but I'm also not gonna say it's amazing.

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I think it's like, on a scale

of one to 10, it's like a seven.

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I still am, I'm, I'm optimistic.

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Things could be better, but

things could be a lot worse.

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And they're not as bad as most

people are making it seem.

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And during this process,

I made a thumbnail.

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Um, that, that said quit data that

said quit data while you still can.

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And I don't believe you should quit data.

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Um, if you're trying to transition

analytics, I think you should keep going.

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There's no reason to panic.

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Um, I'm not panicking.

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Um, but I made this thumbnail

and I wasn't super proud of it

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'cause it felt a little clickbait.

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Um, because I don't actually believe that.

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Right.

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But the interesting thing is, as

I actually did an AB test, 'cause

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it's like, what does the data say?

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Right?

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Um, and I'm gonna just try to

show you this, uh, this data

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right here, uh, with my laptop.

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If you can see it,

hopefully you can see it.

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Ready.

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So if you can't see it, basically what

it shows you is the thumbnail got 44%.

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The thumbnail that IAB tested here.

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That says, quit data while you

still can got 44% of the watch time.

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I put a question mark at a

quit data question mark while

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you still can question mark.

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And the watch time dropped to 20%.

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Basically 20% more people

actually consumed the content.

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When I was like very negative.

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And YouTube, they just love negativity.

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And I am not negative.

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I'm not a negative person.

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I'm not pessimistic about the job market.

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I'm optimistic about the job

market and data in the future.

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And that's just hard for me

because it's like my message of

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positivity reaches more people with

a negative thumbnail, 20% more.

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Like that's literally

the proof in my opinion.

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Um, and I've tested this on a

bunch of different thumbnails.

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But like, how do I feel about that?

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Um, because some people only

see the thumbnails, right?

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Some people only see the thumbnails

and they think that I'm saying to quit

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data, and I'm not saying to do that.

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So it's just been one of those

struggles, like YouTube has all

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these extra complexities with like

YouTubes and titles and algorithms.

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Um, and it's a blessing.

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It's awesome, but it's also, it's also

a little bit overwhelming and, uh,

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a bit, a bit challenging sometimes.

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So, um, yeah, and that's another thing

I need to talk about is like, let's talk

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about the elephant in the room, which is.

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Uh, ai, um.

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AI's here, like the last week.

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I'm recording this in like early February.

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Uh, I think a trillion dollars

of like the US GDP got wiped out.

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Um, or like stocks, value capital

because Claude released 4.6

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and like these Claude plugins and

capabilities and things like that.

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Like for example, um, FIG or Adobe,

I think stock went down quite a bit.

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Because they, like Claude released,

like this Figma connector thing.

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Um, I haven't used the, the Figma

one from Adobe, but I used it

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for Canva, which is very similar.

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It sucks.

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It's terrible.

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You can't make anything.

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It's trash.

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But like their stock dropped a ton.

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So obviously AI's here, like, like

a trillion dollars worth of money

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was lost because everyone thinks

AI is replacing software and all

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these human workers and everything.

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Um.

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I don't think it's there.

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I don't think it's there yet.

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Uh, and I don't think it's, I

don't think it's going to be there.

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Like we're to the point where it's like

replacing software and all of us, and

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I have like this really back and forth

between like, do I make more AI content?

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Do I like go all in on like

data analytics plus ai?

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Um, or do I just completely ignore ai?

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Is it just like, 'cause like

honestly, I've been trying to use AI.

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To save time in my life, to help

make thumbnails, to help make

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titles for the YouTube video.

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And every time I do it, I'm

just like, this kind of sucks.

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Like it's not that good.

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Um, and it takes me a

lot of time to actually.

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Get AI to get mediocre results

and it's like, do I even

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need to be using this at all?

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A lot of the time, I found that

just keeping things simple, not

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using AI has been more efficient

even with analyzing data.

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I know a couple episodes ago, um, I

made a, a line chart showing meta stock

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against ExxonMobil stock, and I did it

all via ai and it just would've taken

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me the exact amount of time to just

do it myself with basically no ai.

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And so I'm really split.

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It's like, do I focus a lot more on

AI or do I not focus on AI at all

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or do I do somewhere in the middle?

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And that's been a struggle

for, for me to figure out.

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I don't know where I'm at on that stage.

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I don't know what, what you guys want.

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I don't know what's best for you.

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I don't know what I'm most interested in.

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I don't know.

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Um, but I think my after I've like

thought about this for a while, I think

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my honest, my honest answer of what I'm

actually going to do moving forward is

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I'm gonna try to do an episode every week.

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Two of the weeks are going to be

like more podcasty, a little bit less

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YouTubey, and two of the episodes are

gonna be a little bit more YouTubey

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and a little bit more podcasty.

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Um, I consider this episode

a little bit more podcasty.

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This isn't gonna go viral on YouTube.

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This.

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Um, and that's okay because, um,

I value speaking authentically and

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honestly over just millions of views.

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Not that I've ever gotten millions

of views, but you get the point like.

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There's value in just telling you

guys, updating you on my life.

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There's value in just updating

you guys on this podcast, on this

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episode, uh, on this YouTube channel.

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Um, so the, the episodes on podcast and

YouTube are pretty much exactly the same.

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Um, one's a video, one's audio,

uh, whatever one you enjoy

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most, you can digest it there.

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Uh, and half of my videos are probably

gonna be like, more like what you

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would expect out of a YouTube video,

and half of them are probably gonna be

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more what you expect out of a podcast.

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Now that's probably like all the

YouTubers would probably say that's bad

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to do because there's people on YouTube

who only like eight to 12 minute long

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videos and that is all they'll watch.

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And if they get a video like this.

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That is now 22 minutes.

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They're not gonna watch it all.

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And you're confusing the algorithm.

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And to that, I say, screw the algorithm.

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That's what I wanna do.

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So that's what we're gonna do.

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So we'll have interviews that are, you

know, maybe an hour long and we'll have

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episodes that maybe are eight minutes

long, um, just depending on the week.

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And I hope that's okay with you.

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Um, yeah, I guess let me know if

it is like, that's, that's the, the

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last thing I just wanna say is like.

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Tell me, you guys like in the

comments, tell me what you like.

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Tell me what you don't like.

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Especially if you're a podcast listener.

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That's one of the hardest things

about doing a podcast is there's

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no likes, there's no saves.

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Spotify just rolled

out comments last year.

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There's like no feedback whatsoever, and

it's like you're talking to 5,000 people

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every episode, but no one says anything.

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There's no clapping.

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00:21:52,745 --> 00:21:54,125

Like, it's like, how the heck am I?

441

00:21:54,575 --> 00:21:55,985

Am I supposed to know

if that was good or not?

442

00:21:55,985 --> 00:21:56,945

If you guys liked it or not?

443

00:21:57,305 --> 00:21:58,805

Uh, so if you're on YouTube.

444

00:21:59,585 --> 00:22:01,475

Let me know what, what

should I do more on YouTube?

445

00:22:01,475 --> 00:22:02,975

Like what do you like

that I do on YouTube?

446

00:22:02,975 --> 00:22:04,234

What do you hate that I do on YouTube?

447

00:22:04,714 --> 00:22:07,565

If you're on the podcast, if

you're on Spotify, leave a comment.

448

00:22:07,625 --> 00:22:08,614

Tell me what you like.

449

00:22:09,065 --> 00:22:10,324

Tell me you hated this episode.

450

00:22:10,324 --> 00:22:10,804

I don't care.

451

00:22:10,804 --> 00:22:13,085

I just want honest feedback of

what you guys actually like.

452

00:22:13,085 --> 00:22:17,165

I do this to try to help you guys and

if I don't know what I was actually

453

00:22:17,165 --> 00:22:21,154

useful or helpful to you guys, then it's

hard for me to to make smart choices.

454

00:22:21,455 --> 00:22:23,824

If you're listening like on Apple

or some other podcast platform.

455

00:22:24,009 --> 00:22:26,949

Or if you're listening and you

just wanna email me, email me.

456

00:22:27,009 --> 00:22:31,120

My email is Avery, just my name

Avery at, and then my company

457

00:22:31,120 --> 00:22:34,629

name, data career jump start.com.

458

00:22:35,230 --> 00:22:38,440

Um, and you can just make like a

subject like podcast suggestions.

459

00:22:38,440 --> 00:22:41,560

Like any suggestions you

guys have, I'm open for them.

460

00:22:41,589 --> 00:22:43,239

Like I will read all those emails.

461

00:22:43,239 --> 00:22:44,589

I'll read all the comments here.

462

00:22:44,980 --> 00:22:46,495

I'll take into account

what you guys are saying.

463

00:22:47,389 --> 00:22:50,210

And I'll try to improve, uh,

the podcast going forward.

464

00:22:50,240 --> 00:22:54,740

That being said, I think, I think the

podcast is decently solid right now.

465

00:22:54,740 --> 00:22:55,730

Like I'm pretty proud.

466

00:22:56,120 --> 00:23:00,409

Um, by now our, when this publishes our

Nick won episode about sports analytics

467

00:23:00,409 --> 00:23:02,719

would come out, I'm really proud of that.

468

00:23:02,719 --> 00:23:04,790

I think that was a really

informative episode.

469

00:23:05,240 --> 00:23:09,409

Um, I just did one about job scams

that I feel is really important.

470

00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:10,760

I just recorded that.

471

00:23:10,760 --> 00:23:12,080

That'll be out already.

472

00:23:12,770 --> 00:23:15,440

I'm like pretty proud of some

of the episodes we've done.

473

00:23:15,500 --> 00:23:17,780

Um, so I feel like we're in a good place.

474

00:23:18,199 --> 00:23:21,679

I feel like we can improve and

optimize and get better down the road.

475

00:23:21,949 --> 00:23:25,639

And I'd love for you guys to,

uh, do part of that with me.

476

00:23:25,639 --> 00:23:27,679

So if you're open to

that, leave a comment.

477

00:23:28,009 --> 00:23:30,590

And, uh, once again, thank

you guys for listening.

478

00:23:30,650 --> 00:23:31,745

Thank you for subscribing.

479

00:23:31,995 --> 00:23:33,065

Thank you for downloading.

480

00:23:33,065 --> 00:23:34,280

Thank you for sharing with friends.

481

00:23:34,850 --> 00:23:38,270

Um, it is like mind boggling, like.

482

00:23:39,020 --> 00:23:45,560

The podcast is still at, you know,

20,000, um, downloads a month, more or

483

00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:50,240

less, and I'm just pulling up YouTube

studio to figure out how many, uh,

484

00:23:50,300 --> 00:23:52,280

watchers we've had in the last month.

485

00:23:53,060 --> 00:23:54,710

And the answer is

486

00:23:59,720 --> 00:24:00,679

170.

487

00:24:01,280 --> 00:24:06,170

So like, basically not quite 200,000, but

let's just say close to 200,000 people.

488

00:24:06,875 --> 00:24:09,545

Are listening to what I have to say.

489

00:24:09,784 --> 00:24:13,175

And uh, that's really humbling

that you guys take the time out

490

00:24:13,175 --> 00:24:17,885

of your day to do that because,

um, I know you guys are busy.

491

00:24:17,945 --> 00:24:20,675

I know there's lots of different

choices of media out there and the

492

00:24:20,675 --> 00:24:24,185

fact that you guys choose my episodes

and you guys keep coming back,

493

00:24:24,784 --> 00:24:26,345

um, I don't take that for granted.

494

00:24:26,345 --> 00:24:29,135

So thank you guys so much and uh,

look forward to hearing from you.

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