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Podcasting 2.0: Live-streaming and Time-shifted Radio
Episode 4 • 3rd December 2022 • Tea Party Media • Martin Lindeskog
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I am testing the live feature on Boomcaster and talk about the podcasting 2.0 initiative, namespace tags, value for value model, and the importance of the RSS feed for podcasters. 

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Episode 4 (37 minutes) was recorded on December 3, 2022, by podcaster, Martin Lindeskog, with Boomcaster. Editing, post-production, and transcript with the podcast maker, Alitu. Notes to self written on Mod 1927 notecards. Bumper and jingle by Jim Jonsson, JTunes Productions. 

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Martin:

Welcome to Tea Party media Podcast episode four.

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This is live streaming and I'll check here, it's showing up on LinkedIn and that's a

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question where it should show up.

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If it's something with the settings here that

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I should do, I look at my phone and the question is where is it?

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Is it activity or could you only see it in a browser?

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So I will test now this will be testing testing LinkedIn.

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So bear with me here.

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Where should it be?

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Home.

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More settings work.

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Question is where it should groups events.

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Where is live streaming?

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My network is defined connection groups events.

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It's not events, it should be messaging, notification, more account settings and

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privacy.

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Post and activity.

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Click on Add all activities live today.

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Yeah, look here, but I have to go to Activity

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live Today 530.

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Okay, so four impressions, we'll see if it

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start in a minute then it was not the easiest one to find.

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So I will do a screenshot here for Boomcaster.

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So bear with me here now, thanks for staying

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tuned and this will be an edit and also posted on Tea Party Media podcast on Podcast host,

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audio, hotel.

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So now I see here Saturday, December 3, 530

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central European Standard Time.

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And now it's 530 live today.

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And I click on that and it says Pre live.

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So when will it start?

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Share manage okay, this is interesting.

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So.

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Harry.

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Patience.

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An email from here, analytics total attendees, one that should be me, I think details manage

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entering these cancel event delete event should be here.

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So where is it showing up? It's saying live on air but I don't see it on

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LinkedIn.

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It's only saying pre live.

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So this is interesting.

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Comments, networking okay, it doesn't seem to

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work here on LinkedIn.

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It say pre live.

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I don't know when it will start.

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It's 05:30 a.m to 06:30 a.m.

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Your local time.

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So it should kick in here.

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I will continue here in Cheers boomcasters dashboard here.

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I will do a screenshot for that also and then I will continue with my notes here on my note

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card from model 1927.

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I did previous session here on Eegonette Cost

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episode 128 and did some note cards also.

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So this is my whole thing to talk about, to do

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it on a regular schedule and as a new media advisor I will give you tips, advice,

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suggestions, share my experience, how I went down this over the years as a blogger since

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2002 and a podcast since 2006.

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Now again doing live streaming.

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So my plan is to do here on Tea Party Media and I'm launching this site, explaining what

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I'm doing, my services, my interest in tea.

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Cheers.

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Here's my blogger mug that I got as a gift in Swedish save oil, ticker, saying what I'm

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thinking, top topin and thumbs up and passionate blogger.

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And I'm drinking a tea there from Rhonda in Africa and I will come back to that also

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what's tea that's tea leaves from the camel yasinensis plant and maybe what you think

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could be tea or an alternative to tea.

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And that's what I will spend here.

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Talk about something called Yarba mate and a product, so called placement and a product

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that I endorse and like and enjoy.

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It's good, good for life here, feeling great

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and that's refined.

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You could say yarbama after product that's

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very popular in South America.

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So I'm doing a refresh here again and it's

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still saying pre live and I don't know what's going on here.

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If it's something on LinkedIn that I have to check, mark something or bookmark something.

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But the saying live on air and time is running here.

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So I'll continue and then I'll go back to Harry at Boomcaster and ask him what I'm doing

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there with the settings, what I should, what I should do.

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It could be also something that you have to have this feature, you have to get invited

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somehow.

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But I have been able to set up it through

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Boomcaster.

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So it's working so far now it should be live

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relive and not pre live.

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So again, thanks for patient and if you have

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any tips on this, how you connect like a streaming service and LinkedIn.

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Because when I did it on Eagle Net cost episode 128, I could link up to YouTube and

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Facebook and I could do it on LinkedIn also, but I couldn't do it at the same time as the

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other destinations.

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So that's why I'm doing it now solely for

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LinkedIn.

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And when it's working, I'm planning to do it

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to be realistic, to be optimistic and to be objective once a month.

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But I want to do it more often on a regular basis.

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So we'll start creating content and getting going.

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So with Tea Party Media podcast and also with Teapotted Media, the site with the blog, do it

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again.

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As a cat fan, I'm saying eating my own dog

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food.

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So showing how you could use new media,

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especially when podcasting and blogging and new structures, live streaming as your hubs

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and then have destination like LinkedIn when it's working and you could then continue

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conversation, you could curate content and so on.

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So I'm planning to then explain here on a show for the camera.

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I don't know if somebody will see it, but here it is, note card and it's a to do note card.

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And there I said first one is Teapotty Media.

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That's what I'm planning for a long time.

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I've had domain for several years, but when to launch it now?

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Around that's my latest goal.

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When to launch it?

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Around December 16.

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And that's a historic date.

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You know what happened on December 1670 73? It was a tea party in Boston.

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Cheers.

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And the colonies came free from the king in

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England through tea in the harbor.

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Boston Tea Party man called it a party.

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So we are planning to have a commemoration and celebration of freedom fighters there in

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Boston, historical Boston in 70 73 in Gotenburg, Sweden.

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Now after the Pandemic to continue this holiday.

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I think it should be because it's leading up to the Independence Day, 4 July 1770, 6th.

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So topic now, I've been rambling around on here for a bit and babbling and still checking

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live streaming and it's saying free live still.

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So I have to come back to Tibetan, do another test and I will do here and I could click on

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information.

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Then it should say Click here to see device

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info.

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It seems to be working fine and again focus is

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on audio but it's neat but you could do this live streaming and have also this audio visual

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component and you could show things and whatnot.

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So the topic again is live streaming you could say versus time shifted radio and one of the

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advantage that I think with podcasting is that you could listen whenever you want but then if

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you have a podcast listeners are tuning in at a certain time.

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Often if I get used to this behavior similar to live on TV, like live shows and on radio

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certain program, certain time on a date and of course it's obvious example is news like you

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have evening news morning.

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Reporting whatnot?

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And the special show that is now, it's in the weekend in Sweden, but it's still Friday

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evening.

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Night in America east coast time in Boston,

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for example, and soon midnight.

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And in California West coast, it's 09:00 p.m..

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So it's still Friday there.

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So then again it's advantage is to you could

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listen whenever you have time you could do other things also at the same time.

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For example like walking the dog or in my case walking the cat the joke.

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Or you could do the dishes, you could do some chores, you could again out for a walk or

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other things like that.

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Now with the podcasting 20 and a special

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called name tag.

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I don't want to be too technical, but it's

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something that you will learn more if you follow along, and I will try to explain it in

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layman's terms, but the whole core of podcasting and subscribing and listening and

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follow, as we say now, follow a podcast you could subscribe if it's a paid podcast.

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That's distinction now thanks to you could say Apple podcast but you use that wording.

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So you follow a podcast because it's easy to understand and then you subscribe if it's a

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paid or premium content.

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Again, you listen whenever you have time.

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And with new podcast apps now, you could listen and even watch like chapters and

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artwork and things during the show when streaming live, as I'm trying to do here now

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on LinkedIn cheers.

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In order to do that on new podcast apps, then

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you have to have this name tag, live ID tag in the RSS feed.

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And that again is the core, the brain, the heart, the machinery in order to follow

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podcasts, you get a notification when it's a new episode.

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And now with these new podcast features, you could say is protecting the RSS feed, extended

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it and preserve it and develop new things.

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Then you could see this light, it's lit, it's

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live ID tag.

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So if you have used a service podcast app or

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podcast podcasters as you call it.

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Also podverse, for example, or cure caster on

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the web in a browser Pod verse both on browser and on an app, you will get if you put the

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settings and again, to joke, I wonder if it's something that I haven't set the settings

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right in LinkedIn in order to get become live.

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But you then have a notification on Pod

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version with the bell and when you see it now it's lit and live in red, in red neon lights

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and then you could listen to as I'm doing now, I have some notes, some bullet points but also

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talking more.

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You could say live streaming like now my voice

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here when I'm editing you probably get that away but now it's live so you can see I saw

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that on Facebook and YouTube.

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It was the symbols here saying and then you

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can follow like comments and so on.

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Again it's saying live on air but I don't see

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the LinkedIn connection here.

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So if something is going on anyway, so then on

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Pod verse we have another feature.

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You could chat so you could write what we are

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talking and then you have this interaction with the audience and you get really realtime

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interaction and it's almost like the listeners become coproducers and curate content and

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comment on the content livestream.

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So if you have like a big show on YouTube, you

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could have super chats and people could ask questions and they could if they have certain

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so called level, I think they could ask questions and then they could donate and

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getting their message or question or comment across with this interaction.

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Again is this chicken and egg situation, will somebody watch this?

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Somebody listen? When should you do it?

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And I will come back to that also the time aspect when I'm planning to do this.

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But it's interesting to see.

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And then you could also send digital as I'm

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now showing on the camera if you will see it.

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It's like a t shirt called Boost and that's a

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Boost brand.

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You could call it like a digital telegram.

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You send a note of appreciation and a message then could say I like what you're saying, a

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question, a comment, I don't agree with you.

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Have you thought about this?

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And then they have this similar to ad reads by the host.

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Now the host could have a segment of a podcast talking about support, donation and with

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Telegrams and with Boosted Gram and also now in the future it will be that you could run

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your value, your time but you value also content.

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So you could stream satoshis one satoshi bit of a bitcoin.

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If you take a bitcoin and divide it 100 million times, when you get satushi, it's a

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small number.

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Sense or error in Swedish you could say.

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And then you have these symbolic things like 70, 76, a freedom boost founding of America.

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And if you have like 2000 or 5000 or something like that, that's a couple of dollars.

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So any small fees or no fees, it could be that the app developer want to have a cut because

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they are doing the work that's valuable.

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When you could support this, the whole thing,

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and I will come back to you.

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It's what's playing out now that certain

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companies and players are trying to so called corner of the market.

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And I'm all for the free market and rooting for them and support them morally.

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But then you have to think is it important for me to have competition, friendly competition,

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several players and options and any companies have an agenda.

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Maybe you should think about that.

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I will talk about D platforming, I will talk

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about censorship, I will talk about this filter bubbles and what's going on in the

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area.

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So coming back with that separate episodes.

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And if you have any questions, any thoughts that you have been thinking about this, what's

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going on in the podoswear more welcome to reach out to me, for example on Twitter,

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lysium Peripatos on Twitter or here on LinkedIn to do a request to get contact with

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me or sending me a message.

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And then of course on Tea Party Media in the

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future on my website.

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And then of course in other ways you could

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reach out to me by email lysime@gmail.com and Martin at Teaparty Media.

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So I will take another zip here of Tea.

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Yes.

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So that's the thing then if starting.

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I see the shift now with my own consumption of

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podcasts and especially podcasts that are now into his Podcasting 20 initiative, what's the

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Future of Podcasting? And again as Todd Cochrane of Blueberry and he

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has a show called New Media Show, which I've done for a long time, together with co host

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Rob Greenley and very sense now we have to so called educate the listeners.

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Also in a friendly way, because listeners, a listener doesn't really care, often use the

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one that's very easy to use, but maybe you use for something else.

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For example music, where you could think about a big player there probably coming from

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Sweden, Greenwood.

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And that's the thing, it's all good.

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But how about testing a new app, a new podcast app that you could support the developer, you

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could get new features.

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It's very open and transparent.

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You could do this.

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Again, neat things with commenting, chatting,

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sending digital telegrams, boosted grounds, streaming satoshi during the time, but valuing

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the time.

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This is the ask value for value.

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What do you think this is worth? Of course, it's your time to invest the time

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here, take time to listen and again it's good when you could listen whenever you want.

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You could speed up the speed so double speed if you think I'm talking too slow you could

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boost my voice if you use a podcast app called Overcast if you have an iPhone and you have

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others that I think Customatic have that neat feature also with boosting and speeding up

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things.

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So with my own consumption listening behavior,

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I'm now looking forward to the new media show.

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That's often mid week, like on Wednesday, I

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think Thursdays.

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And then you have the podcasting.

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2.0 podcast with Adam Curry and Dave Jones.

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And that's often on Fridays.

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And they call it like their board meetings.

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So that's very open.

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Transparent.

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What's going on in this project?

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You could call it, as I call it, the initiative with Podcasting 2.0 that has this

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value for value with names, space tags that I'm talking about how to extend and develop

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and protect and preserve RSS feed and what's going on in the pot was very industry, so they

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have it on Friday.

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And it's often been late in during your

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European time here, but that could be a nice end of the week.

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And before that you could then send a Boston R digital telegram what you thought about

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previous episode for example.

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And also when you listen live then you could

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comment directly what they are saying and then they will see that on something called a

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helipad or something called Saturn with a service called Get LB or some other things

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that you could use.

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But then again, you have to hook it up.

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So what I'm doing now on live streaming if it would work then with LinkedIn, then it will be

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live on LinkedIn for this podcasting 20 then you have to hook it up with a certain you

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could call it a streaming service but it will show up then with podcast 2.0 apps so you

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could then see chapters and artwork and other things and also the livelihood symbol and also

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then you could then comment it in real time.

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So that's my plan also but you could do it

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yourself and you could hook up things but I want to get it set maybe with the hosting

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company or that I'm using some services that are already in place or whatnot so I will

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follow along.

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But this again showing my own dog food testing

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it out so coming back to time shifted ready listen whenever you want and you have time and

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also producing so I have an idea to do this every at least once a month with different

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features, different parts of this podcasting, 2.0 initiative and project, and new apps.

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Now, for example mentioned Podworth and this Boost T shirt from Fountain Dot FM.

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I mentioned cure, Casters, Customatic and others out there.

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So my idea is to invite app developers, people in the industry and talk with them in a non

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techy way and asking them questions about what's very unique so called selling

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proposition, why are we doing this? Different features, we could play around and

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see how you could use it.

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And then of course future plans and what's

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going on and so on.

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I will learn at the same time and listeners

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hopefully will get something from it and getting inspired, motivated to test a new

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podcast app.

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And that's a hashtag that I will try to joke

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about corner market.

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So hashtag new podcast apps.

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If you check out that on Twitter, you will see yours truly pretty active there lysium

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Peripatus and if this will even go into mainstream media talking about this or a big

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player for example like Twitter now with Ellensk, if he will turn on the switch with

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micro donations or sending micropaymentss through Twitter.

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I think it's already I have that in my profile but now it's going to like buy me a coffee.com

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forward slash ICM if you want to buy me a cup of tea.

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Cheers.

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I've been battling now almost for half an

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hour.

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So I will try to wrap it up and have to then

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test LinkedIn soon again because it's still saying pre live.

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So I wonder what I have missed here with the settings.

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But it's all good, it's testing, folding forward.

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So I'm going through these different points here on bullet points on the note card can

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then ask the value for value.

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If increases is value to you, check out the

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new podcast app, then send me a digital telegram.

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And if you have any questions about it, reach out to me.

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For example at Lyceum@gmail.com or Martin at Tea Party dot Media or on Twitter Lyceum

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Peripatus and send me a note, ask me a question and reach out to me on LinkedIn for

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example.

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And recently we talked about show notes.

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The show must go on.

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That's another neat feature on the podcast

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that say that you have a hearing challenge or you want to catch up.

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What we are really saying, maybe you use some tick word or some Jordan Jordan or Jumbo jock.

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So some strange words, some technical things.

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Then you want to maybe rewind or go back and

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listen again.

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And you then follow along with the text.

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And that's again with new podcast apps.

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But they have this feature in the namespace.

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So then it is transcripts and chapters like artwork and images.

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When you listen live you could see now is this segment of a podcast episode and now where you

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heard my alarm clock.

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Now.

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It's 06:00 a.m in the morning so I had to put that off to joke.

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So that's live for you.

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So that's something to think of.

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And what's more I was saying this presentation skills Q and A with my cohost Karinaridanius,

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we talked about the show must go on and the show notes and interest with that with links

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and I will include links here.

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Ganig work into that and you have to find a

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workflow and that's one of the services that I could help with and inspire and share my

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experience and how you could do it in different ways.

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We talked about in the latest episode of Presentation Skills Q and A. So this is like

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what I have written down here for notes.

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I will try to remember it SIM and I like play

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with words that you probably know about SIM like biography SIMBIOS in Swedish and it's in

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the environment, animal kingdom and plants, et cetera organisms living together and one thing

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could feed off its larger and you have this exchange.

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So again eating my own dog food or cat food but I'm so involved in different podcasts like

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a co host, like an editor, marketer producer and so on advisor, new media Advisor so this

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is coming to adventure.

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We'll talk about this so called product

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placement or a product that I could indoors and like as I said in Egonette Cost, you need

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an ego boost that you could get by yourself.

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Talking about having introspection value

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yourself, see what achieving your values you're going and also getting this positive

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feedback loop and comment, constructive criticism, support intonation like saying

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thumbs up.

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I like what you're doing.

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So in order now here in the morning yet get something called Unimate by a company called

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Unicity.

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So feel good product and it's a refined Yarba

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mate product.

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So yerba mate is a plant very popular in South

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America and it has with coffee and other ingredients in it, but giving your kick,

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giving your boost and again, keeping in a good way.

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You don't get with how they say peak or spike and when it's going down, like regular energy

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drinks that could be lots of sugar in it and other things like that.

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And of course with caffeine.

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And then you get this slump.

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Also dump it's going down.

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But this is keeping you in a good way and it's

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a good start in the morning.

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So Unamate.

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This is with lemon flavor, so that's enjoyable.

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And it again quiet, taste.

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You have to test it out.

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And same thing with Tea, all kind of different Tea software.

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So that's why I wanted to promote this product of what it was relevant during this session.

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And this episode.

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Because now when you're thinking about

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podcasting, you think about time shifted radio.

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You listen whenever you want and have time.

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And that's all good.

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And audio, again, is my focus.

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But now, with new podcast apps, and new

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features it's coming in real time and live feeling and live identity tags and being a

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part of a content being a co producer of a content having interaction in real time and

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then show your appreciation a token note appreciation and then the host could then do a

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live read thanking for that input.

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That's fascinating.

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That's what big players like YouTube have worked but often it's only for a big one big

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influencers with lots of following followers that could have your super shots and it could

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have lots of interaction and of course you have to moderate it and you have to maybe have

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others working at the same time.

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I will end here with the pencils that I've

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written with.

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This is red one Viking and then in the latest

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episode, actually yellow one.

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And again, note card is model 1927.

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So with that I say cheerio and talk to you soon again.

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