Welcome to Animal Posse, the podcast dedicated to the
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:people and rescues making a
difference in the lives of animals.
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:Welcome back to Animal Posse.
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:Today we are catching up with a
guest that we had on last year,
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:Ashley, with Southern Paws.
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:As we all know, when disaster strikes,
our four legged family members
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:are often the most vulnerable.
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:Ashley has been on the front lines of
animal rescue and pet safety for years
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:ashley, it is so good to have you back.
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:Thanks for joining us to help
our listeners get their go bags
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:in order and we're gonna talk
about disaster preparedness.
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:Ashley: Hello.
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:How are you?
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:Dixie: I'm good.
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:I wanted to say thank you for coming
on the show last time and then reaching
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:back out to me about coming on the
show again today so we can talk about
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:animals in emergencies and disasters.
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:Ashley: Yeah.
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:Yeah.
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:And people and rescues
and all of the things.
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:Dixie: I looked on your website
for Southern Paw and it looks
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:like you have extensive knowledge
of doing disaster response and
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:disaster preparedness for pets.
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:Ashley: It all started before
I actually did animal rescue.
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:I used to do human rescue.
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:I was in emergency services, and when I
started to get into animal rescue, , I
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:didn't have time to do everything.
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:So I had to pick and choose.
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:And obviously as you can tell I chose
animal rescue mainly 'cause I just
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:the real truth of the matter is I
just like animals better than people.
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:So it came to a head in 2016
with the, there was severe
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:flooding in Louisiana actually.
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:And I think you're from
Louisiana, aren't you Dixie?
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:Dixie: I am, yeah.
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:I remember that.
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:Yeah.
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:That was up near like Gonzalez
towards the Baton Rouge area
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:Ashley: Yeah.
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:Livingston.
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:Yep.
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:Yeah.
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:Yep.
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:Livingston.
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:So we had the 2016 floods.
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:So my sister organization which is
technically Tylertown, Mississippi,
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:but we work with a lot of people
in the Livingston area and, they
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:were on their way back from a
transport and could barely get home.
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:And I remember calling them and
being , Hey is everything okay?
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:And she was , I need help.
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:And I was like, okay.
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:What do you need?
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:And she was like, I need
boots on the ground.
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:Can you get here?
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:And I was like yeah.
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:Okay.
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:So we packed up a truck with a
ton of supplies and we just left.
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:We just went down, we rented a van.
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:I brought down an entire truck of
supplies and we got in and I got there
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:and she said what do you wanna do?
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:And I was like, I wanna
be out in the field.
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:I said, it would be a waste
to put me in a kennel.
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:And she said, okay.
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:She said here's a grid.
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:This is where I need you to go.
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:These are where the calls are.
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:Like, go out there.
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:And it was like these two
passions of mine collided.
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:And I loved it.
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:And I've been obsessed
with doing it ever since.
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:So it's cool 'cause I have
all these specialties, ? I
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:have different certifications.
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:So I'm a hazmat technician, I have
a Swift Water Rescue certification.
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:I used to be an EMT, I let it lapse.
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:But over the years, all of those
different certifications have really.
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:Come together in doing this really
amazing search and rescue work which is
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:helping animals, but it's also helping
people too in different disasters.
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:Since 2016, I have worked almost
every storm that we've had in the
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:United States except for California.
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:Mainly I would say Texas
East is what I've done.
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:We have, built this network.
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:I've worked with other organizations
under them, but really for us
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:specifically, our team is really made up.
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:More like a coalition.
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:We work with a lot of different rescues.
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:We partner up and we all feel, we all work
on the same level, which is really nice.
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:So nobody really works underneath
one another unless there's a an MOU
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:involved, which is like a contract
with the county or the state or the
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:town, whatever area you're working in.
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:But I love a good collab within, every
single element of my life in my work.
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:So this really gives us an opportunity.
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:, Every rescuer that we work with, in
every organization we work with kind of
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:brings something different to the table.
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:And when we all work together, we
really come up with these really
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:beautiful, amazing accomplishments,
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:I worked the floods.
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:I did Hurricane Harvey.
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:I worked hurricane Michael.
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:That was a really bad one.
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:Hurricane Sally.
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:Hurricane Laura.
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:Hurricane Irene.
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:Hurricane Ida.
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:All the I's.
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:I chased Dorian all the way to Florida
and then all the way up the East Coast.
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:But I never actually worked it.
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:And then we just did hurricane Helene.
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:We actually did 17 days for
Helene, and it was crazy because
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:we actually did human rescue.
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:We didn't even end up doing animal rescue.
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:We did more human rescue
during Helene than animal.
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:And yeah it's become we can
do it on this large scale,
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:? Where we go and we assist during
natural disasters or we can
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:do it on a really small scale.
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:An example of that would be, we
had this rescue up here Oscar, it's
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:called One Step Closer Animal Rescue.
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:And they just had a
fire that it was awful.
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:They lost their entire kennel
and just had no idea what to do.
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:It happened to be local to me
and I was able to run out and.
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:I self deployed, which you're not supposed
to do, but considering their neighbors for
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:me, they're about an hour from my home.
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:I just showed up and was like,
hi, this is what I can do.
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:And they were like, oh
my God, we need you.
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:Please sit down.
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:So we were able to really help
get them organized and implement
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:some of our protocols there.
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:We also are able to do it with
hoarding cases, that's a big one.
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:I'm on the cart team which is a
animal response team for my county.
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:We also have a couple other ones
in the area that I'm a part of.
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:And one of my things there is I'm
usually their transport coordinator
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:where, I'll figure out which animals
are gonna go where, how they're gonna
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:get there how long they're gonna
stay there, and making sure all the
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:paperwork and stuff is in place for that.
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:But it, natural disasters happen.
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:A bad day happens, a fire happens.
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:These are all things that
are out of our control.
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:And being able to have somebody who
can assist you through it, I think is
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:really something that's super valuable.
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:And that's what I love.
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:That's what we do and
that's how I love to do it.
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:Dixie: Yeah.
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:I know pets are very resilient
in the natural disasters.
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:The way that I help when we have
natural disasters is I actually
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:will set up lost and found pet
pages for the actual disaster.
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:And there's a group of us that do that.
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:We almost mobilize ourselves to do that.
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:And it's really amazing
how resilient animals are.
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:I'm not saying that they don't need
to be rescued because they do, there
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:are situations, but I know a lot
of people give up hope easily with
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:their animals, and a lot of 'em are
so resilient where you might not see
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:'em and they'll end up showing up.
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:Now, I know in Louisiana when
we had that flood in:
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:was a very unexpected thing.
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:We are used to floods here, but.
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:That kind of flood was insane.
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:Yeah.
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:And the rate at which the water came
up and we are , honestly here, we're
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:not used to that type of flooding.
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:The type of flooding that we're
used to is, we'll hear, okay, we're
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:gonna get a lot of rain and the
water comes up and we will flood.
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:But it's usually slow.
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:It's not really fast moving.
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:It's same thing when we have
a hurricane and at least for a
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:hurricane we have time to get out.
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:But I know for the 2016 flood it came
up so fast that people were actually at
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:work and their pets were in their houses.
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:Yeah.
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:And they couldn't get home.
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:I'd like to hear you know more about that.
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:What is the difference in approaches
that you take to a disaster like
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:that versus a hurricane that
people can actually plan for.
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:And then you also have to plan for
coming to be boots on the ground after
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:the disaster because you've gotta know
what roads to take and things like that.
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:Ashley: Yeah, so I think there's
a lot of elements to that, ? The
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:first thing I would say is, it's
funny that's how you describe it.
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:'cause there are a lot of the floods,
the situations that I've worked.
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:We did the Kentucky floods and
then there was the crazy flooding
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:in landslides during Helene.
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:Every single one of these situations
were situations where they were like,
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:either oh, we're used to it, and then
all of a sudden it's just the flash flood
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:happens and it's just comes so fast.
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:But we had flooding in Kentucky that
we worked at was really like that.
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:And they have a lot of what
they call hollers up there.
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:So it's all these houses in I don't
even know how to explain a holler.
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:It was the first time I've ever
experienced that in the heart of Kentucky.
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:But they're these little groves it's
literally the bottom of a mountain and
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:there's a whole bunch of houses in there,?
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:And honestly the best thing you can
do, and I tell everybody this, get out.
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:If you even think there's
a question, just leave
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:, if you get evacuation orders.
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:Just leave.
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:Okay.
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:The worst thing that's gonna happen
is you're wasting money on a hotel
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:room for a night or a day, or
you're staying at friends for a day.
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:The worst case that happens
is your house is gone.
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:So when you're looking at your pros and
cons I promise you your pros of leaving
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:are a lot higher than your cons are.
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:That's the first thing I say, because
90% of the victims that we meet in these
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:situations, animals and humans are because
they were , oh, we thought we could stay.
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:Like we've always stayed before.
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:And it was never a big deal.
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:And trust me when I tell you, we've
seen the awful disaster and the
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:tragedies that go along with that,
the second one for you guys preparing
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:when you have time ahead of time.
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:Like I said, if you can leave, great.
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:Leave ? If you can't leave, okay.
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:First of all, don't ever
go into your attic,?
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:This is a big one, and I know you
know this from Katrina, but you'd be
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:amazed how many people still do that.
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:They go into their attics and you never
wanna do that because in a situation
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:where you have severe flash flooding
you're gonna drown in your attic.
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:There's no way out.
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:And we've seen that in, in multiple
scenarios and it's horrific.
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:Number two is if that water
is rising, take what you can
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:and just get to high land.
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:We have a rule if it's wind
hunker down, if it's water run.
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:And that's exactly what
it is, ? Because water.
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:You are not gonna be able
to stay where you are.
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:You're gonna have to get out.
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:Another big one, always have
a go bag for your animals.
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:This is a big one that I feel like
a lot of people don't have your go
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:bag, especially during storm season
or if I know something's coming in,
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:I have my dogs tags.
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:I have at least a day
or two of their food.
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:I have a week of their medication.
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:I have their medical records.
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:A lot of the states in the United States
have really been great recently about
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:putting together these shelters that
are human animal shelters where people
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:can stay with their pets, but you still
have to have their supplies, ? If your
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:dog is in congenital heart failure, make
sure you have your meds, for at least
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:a week or two until we can get more.
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:Same thing with their food.
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:A lot of dogs are on prescription diets
or they're on sensitive skin and stomach.
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:I have a dog that has IBD,
if I give him something other
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:than his food, he's gonna die.
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:There's things that we can do as
humans to prepare ourselves, ? Make
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:sure you have a leash, you have
a collar, you have that go bag.
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:So if you need to go, you just up and go.
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:You're not scrambling last minute.
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:Another big one.
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:, It's such a silly thing and it's
scary when you think about it.
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:But one of the best things you guys can
do is take a sharpie marker and write
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:your name and phone number on your dog.
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:Coming from somebody who I
really love reunification.
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:There's a lot of organizations
out there that aren't for that.
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:I am all for reunification.
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:And we actually work ahead of a storm
to try and empty shelters to be able
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:to make space for those lost animals
so that people can find their pets.
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:But.
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:In that same sense okay, we get them back.
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:Now nobody has the internet.
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:Nobody really has phone.
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:Nobody's seeing the lost pet pages.
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:So how do you connect
with your animals now?
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:And nobody knows where to go.
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:People in the us in animal rescue, we
know, go to your local shelter, call
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:the police department and find out where
their staging location is for animals.
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:Find out.
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:You can call the vet's offices,
they might say, Hey, there's a
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:location here and a location there.
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:Or maybe your animal control
is big enough, but I'll use
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:the floods as an example.
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:During the floods, we
were staged at Livingston,
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:? And we had animals from four
or five different parishes.
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:now you're dealing with people
lost their cars, i'll tell you
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:what, what works really well is
if you've written your, name and
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:number in Sharpie, on their belly.
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:'Cause chances are eventually they're
gonna get to somebody, that's got a phone.
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:Or most of us are gonna
take our phones with us.
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:So if we at least have that number, we
can call and say, Hey, we have your dog.
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:This is where he is.
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:And then they can say,
oh, we don't have a car.
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:And we can say, okay, no problem.
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:We're gonna send a volunteer
to bring you your pet.
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:And just being able to provide that.
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:Now when it comes to us, ? Storm
season for me, the best way to
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:describe it is storm chasing.
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:I'm usually glued to my television
if there's a storm coming.
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:Don't even talk to me the we are
watching the weather Channel 24 7.
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:It's on in the background.
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:I am already.
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:Making plans three days in advance.
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:I'm talking to people, I am
trying to figure out who can
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:go how are we gonna get there?
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:Do we need to rent vehicles?
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:Because the last thing I wanna ever do
is take, my vehicle into a disaster area.
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:I usually will get a rental vehicle.
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:The enterprise people up
here know me real well.
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:'cause usually I'm calling
them and I'm like, hi.
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:And they're like, Ashley, it's
seven o'clock on a Friday.
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:And I'm like, I know, but I
need a lifted pickup truck and
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:I need it tomorrow morning.
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:And they're like, we're not even open.
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:And I'm like, can you just figure
this out, but I need it for this.
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:And they know me so well at this point
that they're like yeah, we got you.
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:We'll figure this out.
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:So they've been really great.
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:And it just at the end of
the day, ends up being.
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:A lot of support from a lot of
different people coming together.
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:We wanna be there as soon as
the storm leaves, and we like to
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:be there for at least 72 hours.
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:My rule of thumb is usually seven days.
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:I try to go two days, travel,
five days on the ground.
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:By the end of that time, usually the
national organizations have gotten in and
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:they're then able to kinda set up MOUs and
they are able to really provide much more.
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:Than we can.
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:Our goal is to be there , as things
are just happening so that we can
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:do the emergency setup until the
cavalry can come, if that makes sense.
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:'Cause it sometimes it'll take them
a little bit longer to mobilize.
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:Or if they have especially those spur
of the moment things a lot of the
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:national organizations get MOUs, I keep
talking about this, they're , these
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:contracts that they have that allow
you to work in different areas.
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:And those contracts by the time, like
OEM, office of Emergency Management
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:and everybody gets done with the
human rescue, all of a sudden it
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:then pivots and they're like, okay,
now we can also focus on animals.
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:And that's around the time that the more
national organization comes in, your
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:A-S-P-C-A, your best friends, your aha,
all these different amazing national
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:organizations that come at that point.
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:But we like to try and do that
in between time and to hold
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:everybody over before that happens.
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:Dixie: The MOUI was
gonna ask you about that.
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:That's just basically a
contract for you to go in or
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:Ashley: Yeah.
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:So it's a contract for you to go into
and you can have a standing contract,
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:like a standing MOE with different areas.
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:I know some of the national
organizations have standing MOUs
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:with different organizations.
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:And usually what it is office
of Emergency Management will
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:usually have a list of approved
organizations that they'll bring in.
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:And that's what that MOU is.
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:It pretty much gives you the
ability to operate in in whatever
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:area it is that you're working in.
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:And that can come from
multiple different places.
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:So for instance, during Hurricane Ida,
I was working under A DRC and animal
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:Disaster Relief Coalition, and they
had an MOU alongside Terrebonne Parish.
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:So we had permission to
operate and work in Terrebonne
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:Parish during the Livingston.
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:Floods we had, or the Louisiana floods
of:
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:HSL who had an MOU for that area
for that parish or whatever it was.
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:I know during Harvey we had one,
we were working under somebody,
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:I don't even remember who.
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:But typically we do in it is we usually
are teamed up because we do a coalition.
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:And if that county says Hey, you
have to have an MOU to work here,
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:we can't work in that county.
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:So if we can't, if assuming we
don't have the MOU or we're not
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:teamed up with somebody who has the
MOU, ? That can get a little sticky.
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:And it's like the, I'm
not gonna lie to you.
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:There are certain places in
Louisiana that we won't work.
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:I will not work west of the Lafayette
line if you a state or straight line
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:of Louisiana, because the certain
national organizations in that
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:area, or even state organizations
have made it so difficult to work.
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:We've been threatened.
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:People have come out and been
, we're gonna have you arrested.
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:There's some crazy stuff
that goes on out there.
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:So after Hurricane Laura.
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:We won't even work in that area.
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:And I understand the MOUs, , I respect
and love working under an MOU when we
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:can, we don't work somewhere if we don't
have, if we're told to leave and we're
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:told we don't have permission to be
somewhere we leave, we don't do that.
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:There is a problem in the field
with what we call cowboys,?
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:And they're organizations that
are not necessarily trained
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:in disaster relief officially.
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:And they come in gun slinging not with
physical guns, but they'll come in and
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:they take a whole bunch of animals.
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:They don't categorize them, they don't
document where they got them from.
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:They don't bring them to the appropriate
staging locations for people to find them.
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:And then those animals get moved out of
state, or they get moved out of, the area
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:and then people can't find their pets,
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:? Or they're messing up the current
operations that are there.
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:And this has been a big problem for
many years with many organizations.
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:And it is important that wherever you
are, if you're on one of these teams and
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:you haven't physically been invited in,
that really should be your first step.
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:So anytime we have a storm, we'll
stage outside the storm and then
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:we'll call ahead of the storm and say
Hey, it looks like it's gonna hit.
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:Say, I don't know Charleston
say it's gonna hit Charleston.
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:We'll be calling everybody
in Charleston going Hey.
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:Do you guys have somebody?
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:Are you we'll call emergency
management and say, Hey, do you
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:have something lined up for your
your animals in this situation?
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:And sometimes they're like, Hey, listen,
we don't care about animals right now.
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:We care about people.
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:And I'm like, okay, that's great, but
then that's gonna come in a day or two.
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:And then at that point we, we do a lot of
scrambling and a lot of conversations to
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:get people to say, Hey, yay, we need you.
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:Or, yay, we don't.
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:Or we go in and we just team up with
whatever their animal control is.
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:We just go in, we go to the animal
shelters and we say, are you guys good?
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:And sometimes everybody's
yeah, we're good.
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:But we heard that, two
counties over got slammed.
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:You guys might want to go over there.
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:And then we'll go over there and
we'll talk to their animal control.
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:We'll say, Hey, are you guys good?
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:Do you need anything?
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:And sometimes they're like,
oh my God, please help us.
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:And sometimes they're like no,
we're good, but this one needs it,
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:? So it's hard because those first
couple of days you're doing a lot
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:of ping ponging, ? Trying to figure
out where the actual need is.
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:And you go in and you do
recon to figure it out.
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:But you have some states Florida.
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:Florida has disaster relief.
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:So down pat they don't even need us.
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:We say all the time, we're not going
to Florida unless we get invited in.
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:But then we turn around and we look
at Hurricane Helene in the Carolinas.
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:They had no infrastructure
for disaster relief.
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:Where we were in, in Western
North Carolina, they had no idea.
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:So we worked there for days.
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:I didn't even see national
organizations out there.
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:Every storm I think is different
and every disaster is different.
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:And I think like there are certain
places like Louisiana is real strict.
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:Like you have to have an MOU if you're
gonna go to Louisiana, ? Or you have to
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:be working under an organization there.
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:So like we might work under, say.
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:Livington Parish, or we might
work under dog friends or we might
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:work under Louisiana Humane, say
Louisiana, like whoever is working
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:there, we may work under them.
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:But like I said, there's other
areas where it's not like that.
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:, It all depends on who and where.
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:I love working with some of these
national organizations, they don't
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:necessarily always love working with
smaller organizations that are your
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:newer organizations that are not
big enough to really sustain MOUs.
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:'Cause when you go and you
get your MOU, you have.
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:All of this that you can offer them.
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:For me, I'm like, listen, I can offer
you strategy, I can offer you field
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:work, I can offer you organization,
I can offer you setting up tip
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:lines and hotlines and email chains
and all these different things.
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:I can offer you a star link, ? I
can offer you donations, but
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:my team is relatively small.
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:These national organizations are huge.
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:So what typically happens is we go down
and find out , okay, who needs help?
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:And then if it's something that we
think we can't handle because it is too
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:small, then I'll reach out to some of my
contacts at the national organizations
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:and say okay, hey guys, we're gonna need
way more that I can offer these people.
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:Can you come in?
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:And then depending on whether
they see the need is there
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:or not, then they'll come in.
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:So that's been how we've operated
in the last, however many years.
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:But most of the time when
we do go, we've been.
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:Talking to somebody whose boots
on the grounds there that's
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:Hey, this is where we are.
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:This is where we need you.
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:This is how you get here.
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:That kind of thing.
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:Dixie: Yeah.
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:See, I was wondering how that works
because me being from Louisiana,
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:I know how strict Louisiana is.
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:I know if you evacuate for
a hurricane, you can't even
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:get back in most of the time.
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:And especially if it's a bad hurricane.
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:If it's a bad hurricane and you
evacuate, you might be out of town
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:for two weeks, until they clear the
roads and let us in and and they will
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:check to make sure where are you going.
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:They only allow certain people in, so
that's why I was wondering about that.
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:Now, do you have an have to have
any kind of special certifications
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:to work with any of these people?
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:Ashley: Yeah, so we typically have,
my whole team is FEMA certified.
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:So there's a whole bunch of certifications
that you should get through FEMA if
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:you're looking to do disaster relief work.
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:They have a whole animal
disaster certification thing.
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:And so we require everybody on
our team , especially if they're
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:gonna go do field work, they have
to have those certifications.
460
:And then honestly, the more certifications
you have, the better usually we're
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:teamed up with somebody who has access.
462
:So when we worked in Terrebonne,
they had access to everything.
463
:So all we had to do was say
like, this is who we're with.
464
:Each storm is different,
each area is different.
465
:Sometimes it's the credentialing
is , you have to have, there's
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:not an everywhere certification.
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:I wish there was 'cause it
would make things a lot easier.
468
:But I could tell you guys
this is a great story.
469
:So when I was, we were
working in Terrebonne Parish
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:with their animal control.
471
:And the animal staff there, there
were, these ladies were phenomenal and.
472
:I like to go with people in my pickup
truck when I do this because as we're
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:doing calls, I like to bring food
out with me and give food out to
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:the community, ? Hey, you guys, you
have no electric, you have no power.
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:You don't nothing's open.
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:Do you need dog food?
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:Everybody's walking around with hot
meals, but nobody's thinking oh, hey, what
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:about food for my dog, food for my cat.
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:People run low on that stuff.
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:So I always like to do that.
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:So all week I kept saying, 'cause they
were in these, the animal control trucks
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:and there's no room for stuff like that.
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:So I kept saying let me take my truck.
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:Let me take my truck.
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:Let me take my truck.
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:So finally one of the head girls from
animal control says to me, all right,
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:listen, there's one lady, , she found
this dog, she's gonna foster the dog.
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:I have all the information, but she
needs a crate and she needs dog food.
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:Can you bring it?
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:And the whole reason they kept saying
to me like, you cannot just go off in
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:your pickup truck and do this because
you're gonna get stopped by police.
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:They're gonna ask you a million
questions this way you're with the
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:vehicles that are the animal control
vehicles, and all these things.
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:But obviously we didn't have any
insurance to be able to drive the
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:animal control vehicles and stuff.
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:So we were paired up with the ACOs
and the animal control officers.
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:, She's just go.
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:All you have to do is give them
food, give them this, so it's just
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:me and I have no idea this area.
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:I don't know anything about this area.
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:All I know is I am in the bayou..
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:Yeah.
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:You are in Cajun country.
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:Oh yeah.
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:Straight up.
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:Straight up Cajun country.
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:It was great.
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:So I get in the, I get in
the car and, I'm all excited.
509
:I'm gonna go do this call, whatever I'm
gonna be so helpful and I am listening
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:to my music and I pull into this it's
not even a trailer park, it's a camper
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:park is the best way to describe it.
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:And I pull in and there's this girl,
and I see her and she's raking her dirt.
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:There's no grass.
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:So she's just raking dirt.
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:And I'm like, okay.
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:So I pull in and as I pull
in, there's this weird noise.
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:And I had heard it and I
was like, what was that?
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:Because again, I'm in a rented
truck, so I'm like, I don't
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:even know what that noise was.
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:I was like, what was that?
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:And so I turn the car off and I go
to step outta the car and come face
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:to face with two police officers.
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:, and I realized in that moment
that the weird noise I had heard
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:was the whoop of a cop car.
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:They had followed me all the way
down into this driveway and they're
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:like, what are you doing here?
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:And I'm like, oh, hi.
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:My name's Ashley.
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:I'm from, Southern Paw.
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:, I am doing disaster relief for working
with, Terrebonne Parish Animal Control.
531
:And I'm telling I this whole story,
? And literally all that's in my car
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:right now in the bed or two massive
bags of dog food and a huge crate.
533
:He looks at me and he is
you have Jersey plates?
534
:And I was like yeah, I know.
535
:That's where I'm from.
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:We're just here helping after the storm.
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:And he is okay, can I see
your license and registration?
538
:And I'm like sure, no problem.
539
:So I pull out the license and registration
and I'm so flustered because, like,
540
:when you get pulled over by the
cops, you're automatically flustered.
541
:But I didn't even have that
split second moment of oh
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:crap, I'm getting pulled over.
543
:And the lights are flashing
and now the cop is at my door.
544
:I had none of that, literally
face-to-face license or registration.
545
:I'm like, oh God.
546
:So I'm super flustered.
547
:And so I give him my license
and he looks at me and he is
548
:huh, and what are you here for?
549
:And I tell him again, and I'm like,
yeah, see, there's a dog food.
550
:And this lady, you would think she would
be like, oh yeah, she's here to deliver.
551
:No, this lady's still out
there just raking her dirt.
552
:So I'm sitting there and he
looks at me and he is you Yeah.
553
:But like you're from New Jersey?
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:And I'm like yeah.
555
:Yep.
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:. We've established this.
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:Yep.
558
:I am.
559
:I'm from New Jersey.
560
:Yep.
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:I'm here.
562
:Just helping.
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:So he asked me like three more questions.
564
:And literally at this point, I'm
showing him the bag of dog food.
565
:I'm like, what is this?
566
:And he looks at me one more time and
he is but you're from New Jersey.
567
:And I was like yes, I am from New Jersey.
568
:He lets me go.
569
:I give the lady my stuff, I go back to
the animal control and Leanne's there
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:and I walk in and I'm like, I get it.
571
:And she was like, what?
572
:And I was like, you are never gonna
believe what just happened to me.
573
:So I tell her this whole crazy
story and she goes, oh, they
574
:thought you were selling drugs.
575
:She was like, oh yeah.
576
:She's people come in there all the
time from outta the area to buy drugs.
577
:. Dixie: See now.
578
:Being from Louisiana, I
totally understand this.
579
:Because there are small towns
in Louisiana, and when you
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:get into that small town, it's
like you check everything.
581
:Make sure you go on a speed
limit, putting your blinkers on,
582
:make sure your lights are on.
583
:It's just how it is
especially the small towns.
584
:Ashley: Oh man, I gotta tell you,
there were some crazy things.
585
:My chihuahua came out of that storm.
586
:My personal chihuahua, I joke all
the time and say I trauma bonded him.
587
:The day after the hurricane, we were
driving through trying to figure out
588
:who had the MOU in the area to try
and link up with them and, my partner
589
:saw this this little chihuahua and
sitting on this stairway to nowhere,
590
:? Like literally, there was a trailer
there at some point, but now it's
591
:in pieces somewhere else, and
it's just this stairway to nowhere
592
:and there's this little dog.
593
:He was three pounds and
I thought he was a cat.
594
:And he popped his head up and
his ears popped out and we went,
595
:oh my God, he's a chihuahua.
596
:And so we ended up taking him with
us and we reported him as loss.
597
:We did all the right steps,
nobody ever claimed him.
598
:He was three pounds.
599
:But he was this little three
pound chihuahua at six months old
600
:outrode, a cat five hurricane under
a set of stairs in a trailer park.
601
:He came from outta that storm.
602
:And then we also had one of my other
favorite stories that we ran into.
603
:So Leanne calls us out to another area.
604
:, It was a neighborhood.
605
:And we get out there , I pull into this
area and they said, there are two dogs.
606
:. I wanna say it was like two large German
shepherds, that were supposedly in
607
:a pen in the backyard of a property.
608
:We were tasked out to go make sure
they were okay, that they had food and
609
:water, this, that, and the other thing.
610
:Obviously if they're not, or if
they're sick or if they need something,
611
:bring 'em into animal control.
612
:And I'm like, okay, fine.
613
:So me and one of the animal control
officers that was from Lafayette, or maybe
614
:Baton Rouge, he was down substituting
his name was Demetrius and he was so much
615
:fun to ride with him and I had a blast.
616
:And we get out here and we're expecting
to find two I don't remember what it
617
:was, but it was something ridiculous.
618
:I roll up and, Demetrius
is just go check it.
619
:I'm like, I'm sure it's fine.
620
:I'm like, somebody's
probably feeding them.
621
:So I go out and I get there and
there's a poodle in this cage.
622
:And I'm like, what the,
I'm like, wait a second.
623
:So I go back and I'm like, are you
sure we're in like the right place?
624
:. He's yeah he's like, why, what?
625
:What's out there?
626
:And I, so I tell him,
and he is wait a second.
627
:He is that doesn't sound right.
628
:So we call Leanne over at
dispatch, and I'm like, Leanne.
629
:I'm like, are you sure that
these, she's yeah, I just talked
630
:to, the owner of the property.
631
:He said they're out there and he can't get
back to them, and blah, blah, blah, blah,
632
:blah, and this, that, and the other thing.
633
:And I'm like, Leanne there's no lab in
here and there's definitely whatever.
634
:I was like, that's not what's here.
635
:And she's what do you mean?
636
:And I'm like.
637
:There's a dachshund and
a poodle in this cage.
638
:I'm like, so then this guy comes
up and he, and this family member
639
:comes up and she sees this,
and she's comes up real quick.
640
:What are you guys doing?
641
:And we're like hey, we're
here with animal control.
642
:We just got called out to check
on, let's say a German shepherd.
643
:I got called out for a German
Shepherd that's supposed to be in
644
:the pen back here just to, to check
on him and make sure he is okay.
645
:She goes, oh yeah, he's fine.
646
:And I said no there's no
German Shepherd back here.
647
:She's what do you mean?
648
:So I called Leanne and , we had a real
sugar rule, Leanne was like, listen,
649
:unless it's sick or broken or needs
immediate medical do not bring it back.
650
:We don't have anywhere to put it.
651
:So I called Leanne and I'm.
652
:Hey.
653
:, I know we're supposed to
have a German Shepherd.
654
:She's yeah.
655
:I'm like, yeah we don't.
656
:She's what do you mean?
657
:I'm like, I don't know who put these
dogs here, but these are not his dogs.
658
:And this is not a German Shepherd.
659
:And we just talked to the owner and
these dogs don't belong to them,
660
:so I have no idea how they ended
up in the pen in his backyard.
661
:I said, but they're sick, and
I'm gonna have to bring 'em in.
662
:And she's are you kidding me?
663
:So now we bring these dogs in, and
by the way, there's this cat it was a
664
:little Calico coming up and brushing on.
665
:And I was like, Dmitri.
666
:Put him in the truck..
667
:So we put her in the
truck and bring her back.
668
:But yeah, it was one of those things
where we were so tired and I was like
669
:none of this is making sense at all.
670
:You wanna be teamed up with somebody
because of stuff like those situations,
671
:? You wanna be dispatched, you wanna have
some sort of an organization to it.
672
:We do a lot of dropping food.
673
:That's another thing.
674
:And then what we'll do is we'll
collect those addresses and then
675
:give them to whoever the animal
control is that's in charge.
676
:So they can do sheltering in
place and stuff like that.
677
:But yeah, there's been some great stories
awful disasters that we've worked and
678
:some really sad moments and really
just devastating, heartbreaking stuff.
679
:But it's the people that make it,
we meet new people, we work with all
680
:kinds of people from all walks of
life, and it's just, it's really cool.
681
:Dixie: Did you ever find
out about the two dogs?
682
:Ashley: I never found out
who owned those two dogs.
683
:Nope.
684
:That's crazy.
685
:I don't know what happened to
the German Shepherd that was
686
:supposed to be there either.
687
:No idea.
688
:Dixie: I wanted to backtrack a little
bit when you were talking to about
689
:the Go bag because there is a tip
that I wanna give everybody as well.
690
:Yeah.
691
:You were talking about make
sure you have all your paperwork
692
:and , photos of your animals.
693
:What I started doing since Katrina,
'cause I did go through Katrina.
694
:And even people who evacuated
our phone lines were down.
695
:We had no access to our phones.
696
:But one thing that I always tell people
to do is get all your important documents
697
:and email them to yourself because
698
:If your phones go down, you
can't access your phone.
699
:You can go to a library and access
your email through a computer.
700
:Ashley: Yeah.
701
:Yeah.
702
:That's smart.
703
:Really smart.
704
:Yeah.
705
:Yeah.
706
:I do that with my certification, so I have
a booklet of all of my certifications.
707
:'cause that's obviously the first
thing that emergency management
708
:wants to know when I talk to them.
709
:And.
710
:They had all said one of the things
is I put it all in a Google drive.
711
:'cause I'm like, at least
this way I have access to it.
712
:I can find it.
713
:It's accessible, all those things.
714
:Dixie: You mentioned that you did
this fire two at one step closer.
715
:So you went over the go bags
for disaster preparedness.
716
:So what would you tell people to do for
something that's unexpected like that?
717
:Like a fire, because that's
one of my biggest fears too,
718
:especially with animals.
719
:Ashley: One of the best things that
we have are those little stickers that
720
:they put in the windows for the firemen.
721
:It's a sticker and it says please find
my animals, so that the fire departments
722
:know that hey, there's animals in the
building and please try and find them.
723
:A fire is nasty I did
a hoarding case fire.
724
:56 cats and the house went up in flames.
725
:Luckily the fire was really
contained to the upper levels
726
:of the house and the cats hid.
727
:And I think there was
only two that they lost.
728
:And then there was three that
had pretty substantial burns.
729
:But.
730
:Fire is so difficult.
731
:One of the best things, and I think this
goes for humans too, ? Especially if you
732
:have children, plan your escape route.
733
:Yes.
734
:Everybody's gonna argue with
me and say oh in a fire you
735
:never, everything goes sideways.
736
:But my big argument here is if
you've done it multiple times.
737
:It becomes real second nature to you.
738
:And you can be very calm in the situation,
739
:? So for us, in my household, we keep
our crates in a central location,
740
:? And if I have to get out, this is
the door we're gonna go out of.
741
:And we'll even set up simulations in
my house especially if you have kids,
742
:this is a great one to do with kids.
743
:There's a fire in this room.
744
:What do we do?
745
:And help let the kids help you
work it out, ? So that if God
746
:forbid something like this ever
happens, you can just grab and go.
747
:Now obviously a fire is something that.
748
:I hate fire.
749
:I'd rather have a flood
any day of the week.
750
:Fire is just, it's so
destructive, it's so fast.
751
:And all of the planning, I feel like
with a fire really doesn't go great.
752
:A big one.
753
:Microchipping your pets is huge.
754
:Not only microchipping them, but making
sure that you're registering them.
755
:That's another one.
756
:A lot of people I would say
five outta 10 microchips that
757
:we find are not registered.
758
:So make sure your pets are microchipped.
759
:Make sure that they always have
collars on, that have tags on them.
760
:They don't have to be super tight.
761
:They can be loose.
762
:They don't have to be super big.
763
:But a lot of people that I know
don't have collars on their
764
:dogs, and I'm like, you're crazy.
765
:My dogs always have tags on them.
766
:The easier you can make it, the better.
767
:Knowing and being prepared.
768
:My crates for my dogs are
in a shed on my property.
769
:God forbid, my house burnt
down, the shed's over there.
770
:The other thing is keep your
animals up to date on vaccinations,
771
:? Nobody ever thinks about this.
772
:We really live in a culture of not me.
773
:It's not gonna happen to me.
774
:And then it does, and you're
unprepared, ? I say to people all
775
:the time, 'cause they're like, oh,
my, my dog doesn't leave the house
776
:so we don't vaccinate him anymore.
777
:And I'm like, yeah, but
what if you had a fire?
778
:What if there was a flood?
779
:What if there was an emergency?
780
:What if we had a hurricane and
you had to go to a shelter?
781
:Your animal needs to be
up to date on vaccines.
782
:So that's another one.
783
:That's how you protect your animals
in one of these crazy situations.
784
:And it's something
nobody ever thinks about.
785
:'cause they're like, oh, it's a house cat.
786
:Yeah, what happens during a disaster?
787
:I didn't work the California fires, but
my friend Nikki with paws of War did.
788
:And one of the big things was they were
not allowing families back into the
789
:area to go get their animals because
it was still such a volatile area.
790
:So animals were stuck in their house,
just like you were saying, days
791
:and days with no food and water.
792
:So , what she was doing was she would
have them send a picture of their license.
793
:They had to fill out a form with a
legal signature stating that they had
794
:the ability to go to this property
and get the animals, and then they
795
:were bringing them out of the danger
zone and giving them to the owners.
796
:If you were in, I don't know, New York
and on vacation, and you have a wildfire
797
:in California and everybody evacuates.
798
:How do you get your dogs?
799
:You don't, those dogs are now going
to probably go to a shelter and if
800
:they're not vaccinated, they're gonna
get whatever is in that shelter.
801
:And now we're looking at a disaster,
which means you're gonna have 10 times
802
:the normal amount of animals that are
coming in, which means you've got all
803
:these different petri dishes happening,
which means chances are they're gonna
804
:be upper respiratory infections, you're
gonna have kennel cough, you're gonna
805
:have, all these different things.
806
:So having your animals be vaccinated
is really important for their
807
:protection in those situations.
808
:Dixie: Yeah, that makes a lot of sense.
809
:And I've never thought about that either.
810
:I vaccinate, so I'm not worried
about that for my own pets.
811
:But there are a lot of people, like you
said, that'll say, , my animal doesn't
812
:go outside and so I don't vaccinate.
813
:And, but that makes
perfect sense actually.
814
:Ashley: Yeah.
815
:And we see a lot of that so with our
adoption process, I'm super strict
816
:about vetting, with our approvals
and with the approval process.
817
:For me, vetting is just so important.
818
:Keeping your dogs up to date on vaccines.
819
:People criticize me and say I over
vaccinate and things like that.
820
:But you know what I've
seen we see the worst.
821
:So it's important.
822
:The other thing I would say too is if
you're somebody that's listening that's
823
:part of a shelter or an organization.
824
:This can happen to you.
825
:Okay.
826
:We just had a situation where in Newark
which is one of our inner city shelters
827
:here the snow collapsed a portion of
their kennel, ? So what do you do?
828
:Where do we put the animals?
829
:Where do we go?
830
:Like, how does it happen?
831
:We have this Oscar fire,
832
:? They had 40 animals.
833
:They lost six dogs in the fire.
834
:It was awful and heartbreaking.
835
:But at the end of the day these heroes
were running into burning buildings,
836
:pulling animals out, and they were able to
say, , I wanna say 37 was what they saved.
837
:I wanna say I don't quote
me on these numbers.
838
:I could be wrong, but , by the time I
got to them, they're sitting there on
839
:pen and paper trying to figure out.
840
:Where are the animals?
841
:Who was the animals?
842
:How many do we have?
843
:There was no accountability.
844
:This was an organization
that was very old school.
845
:A lot of their documentation was
not kept in shelter software.
846
:So accountability for
them was a huge challenge.
847
:So it wasn't even a matter
of just figuring out.
848
:Who went where?
849
:It was, how many animals are
actually missing, ? It wasn't
850
:until we had those final counts,
851
:by the end of that night, we knew there
were five that were at unaccounted for.
852
:We didn't know if they had perished
in the fire or if they were lost.
853
:There were two that ended up being lost.
854
:We actually brought in Buddha Dog
Rescue and Recovery, who's phenomenal.
855
:They trap lost dogs, and the
dogs actually showed up the next
856
:morning at the property next door.
857
:So that was a big one.
858
:But if you are one of these smaller,
rural shelters where you're not
859
:really technologically savvy.
860
:You do a lot of your stuff on Excel,
I'm not saying that's a bad thing,
861
:but , if you have a catastrophe.
862
:You need a way to track your animals.
863
:So at least make sure
your stuff is in a cloud.
864
:Make sure that if you don't have one, but
you can afford it to do shelter software.
865
:There's a couple of shelter softwares out
there that are really on the inexpensive
866
:side as well as ones that are almost free.
867
:There's a lot of companies so
definitely do that because if
868
:you ever do have a disaster, the
accountability is a massive problem.
869
:If you can't figure out how many animals
you have, you don't know what you
870
:lost, ? So that's a big portion of it.
871
:Have a emergency response plan.
872
:If, God forbid, something happened
and we had to evacuate this shelter.
873
:What is my plan, ? , Where
are we taking the dogs?
874
:What organizations are taking the dogs?
875
:Who do we work with that can place dogs?
876
:We're lucky here where we have our
cart team, which is it's pretty much a
877
:certified animal response team, ? We're
all, we went through a certification
878
:class and we have this, so we're
really lucky that we have that here.
879
:So if, God forbid I ever had an
emergency and we needed to empty out
880
:a shelter or whatever, I could call
animal control and my contacts over
881
:there which also is the head of my cart
team and say Hey Carol we need help.
882
:Same thing if you have a farm.
883
:These wild fires are crazy.
884
:Okay.
885
:If you have a farm, you
need an escape plan.
886
:Okay?
887
:You need a plan if there is a
flood, ? And don't give me this
888
:oh, that doesn't happen here.
889
:'cause it does.
890
:And there's always that small chance.
891
:So it doesn't hinder you at all to
have some sort of a plan in place.
892
:So the more prepared you
can be, utilize that plan.
893
:My animals are gonna go where,
what is the plan for this?
894
:How do I do this?
895
:, Where do I escape to if this there's all
these different things that we can do
896
:to prepare ourselves for these things,
but you just don't wanna get caught in
897
:that emergency and not have that plan
because that is when things get bad,
898
:? And then, and that's where we
come in and I can say that night
899
:I sat down and I literally looked
at Cassie and I said, Cassie.
900
:Who, she's the director over there.
901
:And I said, Hey, or the president.
902
:And I said, Hey, like, how
many animals do you have?
903
:And she was like, I don't know.
904
:And I was like, okay, take a breath.
905
:And again, they're all panicking,
emotions are high, so , I'm able to
906
:come in with a level head and say
okay, do you have a shelter software?
907
:No.
908
:How do you track your animals?
909
:We use Excel.
910
:Okay.
911
:Is there a cloud?
912
:No.
913
:Okay.
914
:Is there a hard drive?
915
:Yes.
916
:Okay.
917
:Were you able to get Yes.
918
:We brought the, somebody
brought the hard drive here.
919
:Okay, great.
920
:Pull the hard drive up there.
921
:Boom.
922
:That's done.
923
:Okay, great.
924
:I have my laptop.
925
:I'm starting to Google Drive.
926
:All right.
927
:Who, which dogs went to Happy Hounds?
928
:Which dogs went to, Newton Vet,
which dogs went to Southern Paws?
929
:Which dogs went here?
930
:And then you start to get organized,
but if you don't have somebody
931
:coming in with that level head
and then acknowledgement and.
932
:I almost didn't go.
933
:This property the Oscar property
is a little over an hour from us.
934
:And I had to go to the facility to get my
van, which is a half hour from me before
935
:I rode up there, because I was like if
they're gonna need us to move animals,
936
:I don't wanna go up without the van.
937
:So I immediately ran to my facility.
938
:I threw a whole bunch of stuff
in the truck that was emergency,
939
:like things that they might need.
940
:And then I started going up with
the van and I had four people
941
:that called me and said, don't go.
942
:They're putting out on the internet
that they don't need any more help.
943
:Please don't go.
944
:It's a mob scene.
945
:Nobody wants you there.
946
:And everybody kept saying that to me.
947
:Even the head, even my chief
of my cart team was like,
948
:Ashley, we don't self deploy.
949
:And I was like, Carol,
I'm not going as cart.
950
:I'm going to Southern Paws.
951
:I'll see you later.
952
:Worst case scenario, they don't need me.
953
:I'm 15 minutes from there.
954
:I've been in the car now
for almost two hours.
955
:I'm like, I'm gonna at least
give them my card because if
956
:they don't need me tonight.
957
:Over the next couple of days,
they are going to need me.
958
:I have a very certain set of
skills that are not, yes, they
959
:don't need average person's help.
960
:And that's I think, one of the things
that gets lost in the sauce, ? In this
961
:scenario, this is what I'm good at, this
is one of the things that I specialize in.
962
:So I can come in and
help you get organized.
963
:I can help you navigate the outpouring
of support that's gonna come in.
964
:I can help you with phone lines and emails
and all these different things, but.
965
:I even doubted myself.
966
:I was like, maybe I shouldn't go.
967
:And I was like, you know what
I've almost driven two hours.
968
:Just go give 'em your card.
969
:And when I walked in, I was
like, Hey, listen, I'm not
970
:here to move dogs, take dogs.
971
:I don't wanna do this.
972
:These are the things I can help you with.
973
:If you want me to leave, I can leave and
I'll just give you my card and then if
974
:you need anything, please just reach out.
975
:And they were like no, please stay.
976
:And I ended up working with them
for a week to get them organized.
977
:It was huge.
978
:It was great.
979
:It was a wonderful success.
980
:They actually raised over $600,000
that from a GoFundMe that my
981
:social media person put together.
982
:Oh my God.
983
:Yeah, you have to go online
and you have to look it out.
984
:It's called Oscar Animal Rescue.
985
:It's located in Andover, New Jersey.
986
:They're resilient and they're beautiful
and they're wonderful, and they now
987
:officially are getting shelter software.
988
:We laugh about this and we do and I
say this, don't criticize them because
989
:you have no idea how many shelters
I've worked in , all over this country
990
:and people are back in the times
991
:there are a lot of them, especially in
these more rural areas that are not.
992
:Technologically up with the times.
993
:And I was one of them.
994
:, My team had to pull me kicking
and screaming into this century.
995
:I was very much a paper and
pencil kind of person, and
996
:they were like, this is insane.
997
:We gotta get you digital.
998
:So I know what they were going
through, but we've developed
999
:some really great friendships.
:
00:46:31,969 --> 00:46:36,789
I had them at my rescue this last weekend
because we had a transport and they came
:
00:46:36,789 --> 00:46:38,829
in to see what our protocols looked like.
:
00:46:39,189 --> 00:46:41,879
And then, we also teamed up with them.
:
00:46:42,049 --> 00:46:45,339
They're really giving us a whole
bunch of stuff for a tricky tray
:
00:46:45,339 --> 00:46:47,109
event that we're doing in June.
:
00:46:47,479 --> 00:46:48,199
And it was really cute.
:
00:46:48,199 --> 00:46:51,349
Cassie actually said to me today,
she's you supported us so much.
:
00:46:51,659 --> 00:46:52,469
'Cause I was like, stop.
:
00:46:52,469 --> 00:46:53,369
I was like, this is too much.
:
00:46:53,369 --> 00:46:54,749
You don't need to give us all this stuff.
:
00:46:54,749 --> 00:46:55,259
Stop it.
:
00:46:55,739 --> 00:46:57,119
And she was like, no.
:
00:46:57,119 --> 00:47:00,269
She's you supported us so much
through this such a difficult time.
:
00:47:00,319 --> 00:47:01,579
Let us help you now.
:
00:47:01,639 --> 00:47:02,899
I can help you with this.
:
00:47:03,259 --> 00:47:06,979
And so it's really beautiful,
these relationships we build too.
:
00:47:07,059 --> 00:47:11,729
But yeah, I would absolutely say that
having a plan is half the battle.
:
00:47:12,179 --> 00:47:16,889
Even if everything goes sideways, at
least you have that plan to bring it back
:
00:47:16,889 --> 00:47:20,529
to, you might lose out on a couple of
steps, but the that saying the best laid
:
00:47:20,529 --> 00:47:24,369
plans, but you might lose out on some
of it, but it's a way to keep yourself
:
00:47:24,369 --> 00:47:26,489
calm when everything is going haywire.
:
00:47:27,959 --> 00:47:28,979
Dixie: Yeah, absolutely.
:
00:47:28,979 --> 00:47:29,969
I couldn't agree more.
:
00:47:31,169 --> 00:47:32,129
. Ashley: It's springtime.
:
00:47:32,129 --> 00:47:33,869
We're going into disaster season.
:
00:47:33,999 --> 00:47:34,279
Dixie: Yeah.
:
00:47:34,364 --> 00:47:36,074
Hurricane season fun,
:
00:47:36,124 --> 00:47:36,994
? Ashley: So fun.
:
00:47:37,214 --> 00:47:38,684
We got off real easy.
:
00:47:38,684 --> 00:47:41,934
Last year I didn't have to
deploy out at all last year.
:
00:47:41,934 --> 00:47:45,204
So I'm a little scared about this year
because usually if there's a year that
:
00:47:45,204 --> 00:47:49,194
I don't have to deploy out, it means
the following year is gonna be bad.
:
00:47:49,384 --> 00:47:51,514
This last year we didn't
really go anywhere.
:
00:47:51,564 --> 00:47:55,074
I don't have the appropriate
certifications to do fire work.
:
00:47:55,264 --> 00:47:59,524
And honestly, fires for
me are really awful.
:
00:47:59,714 --> 00:48:01,544
For some reason I don't
like to work fires.
:
00:48:01,824 --> 00:48:06,134
So it was really nice to be
able to, support paws of war in
:
00:48:06,134 --> 00:48:07,304
what they were doing out there.
:
00:48:07,304 --> 00:48:07,724
But.
:
00:48:08,144 --> 00:48:10,174
Yeah, , that was the only
thing that we had last year.
:
00:48:10,174 --> 00:48:11,044
It was awful.
:
00:48:11,044 --> 00:48:14,254
I'm just a little nervous about
this year because this last
:
00:48:14,284 --> 00:48:15,814
hurricane season was quiet.
:
00:48:17,044 --> 00:48:17,194
Dixie: Yeah.
:
00:48:17,194 --> 00:48:23,194
I know we had some, but it hit areas
that were very low populated areas.
:
00:48:24,064 --> 00:48:24,514
Ashley: Yeah.
:
00:48:24,724 --> 00:48:25,024
Yeah.
:
00:48:25,024 --> 00:48:29,044
So we had those weird curves, ? On
the East Coast, everything would come
:
00:48:29,044 --> 00:48:32,164
in like it was gonna hit, and then it
would immediately bounce back out to
:
00:48:32,164 --> 00:48:34,024
sea and then just end up in nowhere.
:
00:48:35,189 --> 00:48:38,549
Dixie: Fingers crossed we
don't have a busy season, so
:
00:48:38,759 --> 00:48:40,109
Ashley: No, I hope we don't.
:
00:48:40,109 --> 00:48:40,949
I really don't.
:
00:48:41,039 --> 00:48:45,179
But yeah, and if anybody out there
listening to this podcast wants help on
:
00:48:45,179 --> 00:48:50,279
this or needs help coming up with a plan
or wants to talk or, needs some direction
:
00:48:50,339 --> 00:48:54,329
or wants to make friends, so that next
hurricane you have a team that you can
:
00:48:54,329 --> 00:48:57,879
call that will come in and help you,
if you need it, please don't hesitate.
:
00:48:57,879 --> 00:48:58,989
It's Southern paws Inc.
:
00:48:58,989 --> 00:49:01,149
You can go right on our website,
which is southernpawsinc.org.
:
00:49:02,229 --> 00:49:05,469
Send us an email just put
attention, Ashley on it.
:
00:49:05,499 --> 00:49:12,299
Or you could put attention, disaster
preparedness team, and that way,
:
00:49:12,299 --> 00:49:13,829
let's build some more relationships.
:
00:49:13,829 --> 00:49:16,289
So if you guys do need us,
you have relationships already
:
00:49:16,289 --> 00:49:17,699
established for us to come out.
:
00:49:18,569 --> 00:49:21,209
Dixie: Yeah, and I'll drop that
in the show notes too, so that way
:
00:49:21,209 --> 00:49:22,919
people can access your page too.
:
00:49:24,104 --> 00:49:24,824
Ashley: Awesome.
:
00:49:24,824 --> 00:49:25,274
Awesome.
:
00:49:25,274 --> 00:49:26,504
Dixie, thanks so much.
:
00:49:26,504 --> 00:49:27,854
I love coming on this show.
:
00:49:27,854 --> 00:49:29,114
I love talking to you.
:
00:49:29,304 --> 00:49:29,724
Dixie: Good.
:
00:49:29,724 --> 00:49:31,074
I'll have you back another time.
:
00:49:31,824 --> 00:49:34,374
And hopefully I won't be seeing
you for hurricane season,
:
00:49:34,424 --> 00:49:34,934
Ashley: No.
:
00:49:35,119 --> 00:49:35,409
Nope.
:
00:49:35,409 --> 00:49:36,049
Hopefully not.
:
00:49:36,629 --> 00:49:37,409
So nope.
:
00:49:37,829 --> 00:49:38,669
Any other time.
:
00:49:39,069 --> 00:49:40,539
Dixie: That's it for today's episode.
:
00:49:40,539 --> 00:49:44,439
I wanna thank everybody for
listening and supporting us.
:
00:49:44,529 --> 00:49:48,639
If you wanna take that an extra
step, consider becoming a member.
:
00:49:48,879 --> 00:49:53,079
We just added this to our
website, animalposse.com,
:
00:49:53,319 --> 00:49:55,389
scroll down, look for the support tab.
:
00:49:55,439 --> 00:50:01,769
Our membership program is going to
help us directly support animals
:
00:50:01,799 --> 00:50:08,999
in need, whether that be through
vaccinations, food or spay neuter efforts.