In this episode of the Connected Pleasure Podcast, I sit down with Sharon Marie Scott, author of Forbidden Alchemy: Transmuting Taboo into Erotic Medicine, to explore the transformative power of pleasure, play, and conscious sexuality. Sharon shares her journey from trauma and shame to sovereignty, choice, and spiritual mastery through pleasure.

We dive into:

• Discovering your pleasure: How deciding that you’re worth falling in love with yourself—and exploring what truly excites you—can be playful, freeing, and life-changing.
• From shame to sovereignty: Why shame around desire is imposed, not inherent, and how conscious sexual exploration can help you move from need to choice.
• The “sandbox” of sexual play: Sharon’s book includes exercises ranging from mild to wild—primal play, polarity play, power exchange, and rope—designed to help beginners and seasoned explorers alike expand their pleasure safely.
• Kink, trauma, and natural desires: How fetishes and preferences can arise from innocence, generational inheritance, or curiosity—not just trauma—and how awareness transforms compulsions into conscious choices.
• Pleasure as spiritual practice: Sharon explains how pleasure operates at higher frequencies than love alone, and how sex magic and erotic alchemy can accelerate manifestation and conscious creation.
• Pain and pleasure as transformative tools: How shifting the story around sensation allows us to access higher states of consciousness and integrate both pleasure and challenge into personal growth.
• Community and co-creation: The role of regenerative, pleasure-focused communities in supporting growth, exploration, and collective manifestation.

Sharon also shares her upcoming work, including her 12-week course The Pleasure Frequency Atelier, which blends online activation, in-person embodied practice, and integration to guide participants through sex magic, erotic alchemy, and conscious pleasure.

Whether you’re just beginning to explore your sexuality, seeking to heal from shame, or ready to integrate pleasure into spiritual mastery, this conversation offers a roadmap to reclaiming desire, deepening your sensual and spiritual connection, and raising your frequency.

Connect with Sharon:

• Website: sharonmariescott.com
• Instagram: @sharonlifetunredon
• YouTube: Life Turned On
• TikTok: Life Turned On
• Upcoming Course: The Pleasure Frequency Atelier
• Book: Forbidden Alchemy: TransmutingTaboo into Erotic Medicine
• Coming Soon: Flesh and Flame: Pleasure as the Portal to Divine Mastery (Feb 2025)

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Welcome to the Connected Pleasure Podcast. I'm Kayla Moore, sacred disruptor and sovereign guide, here to share liberation wisdom for sexual healing and feminine rising.

This is a space to return to your pleasure, your power and your body, while remembering your deep connection to the earth and to each other. Each week we explore what it means to lead with soft power and to weave a world rooted in embodiment, love and connection.

Together, we are holding the frequency of what we want this world to look and feel like as we collectively weave together a new paradigm shift called the Great Turning. Because pleasure is not frivolous, it is foundational.

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Welcome, my loves, back to the Connected Pleasure Podcast. I'm Kayla, your host. I go by she, her, hers, pronouns and I am here today with another wonderful guest.

Sharon Marie Scott is an erotic mystic, author and the architect of the Pleasure Renaissance, a global movement bringing pleasure, sovereignty and erotic aliveness back into the center of modern spirituality.

Thank you Sharon so much for being here with me today and I would love if you let my listeners know any more around who you are and what you do that you would like them to know.

Yeah, I, I would love that.

You know, I, I started off as a person who in her early childhood was conditioned to, to think of her pleasure as something to feel scared and ashamed of, to think of it as like a threat to her safety. And as a result of that, and it came from childhood experiences of sexual abuse and incest.

And what was confusing to me at the time was that the experiences that I had weren't necessarily violent or well, they were pleasurable to my five and six year old body.

And this is like probably the most controversial, controversial thing that I tend to talk about because, you know, even as the truth of those experiences came out to the family and like that people, well meaning people will say things like I'm so sorry that happened to you and that's a terrible thing that happened to you, but at 5 and 6 I didn't know how to process that I was like, does that I, I was supposed to feel bad that it was a terrible thing that I was. That my body experienced what's so natural, which was this pleasure and that, yeah, that I should be sorry. And so what.

By the time I became like a sexually available adult, that translated to anything in my life that got me too close to kind of that pleasure threshold or that joy threshold. And so I became, I started subconsciously self sabotaging life to make sure that it didn't get too good. Right.

So my life became turned off and was kind of, was rather, was very muted in the way that I was living it. And my husband and I at that time opened our marriage and we were exploring more of our erotic selves, which took us into all sorts of communities.

But I had, I had a lover who noticed something happening in my body, like between my clothes being off and my clothes being on. And he mentioned it to me and it was such a.

It was a sweet, sweet moment of me not realizing that I certainly had plenty going on under the hood right as I was trying to engage erotically, because I really wanted to be there. I wanted to feel fully expressed erotically. But, and, but I wasn't covering it. I wasn't covering it up, I guess, very well.

So he read my body and he, and we were in the middle of play one time and he said, you know, whatever it is you're holding on to, whatever it is you're afraid of, you can let that go, like, you're safe here. And I started to cry and I was so confused by my tears, but I couldn't. There was like a disconnect between my mind and my body.

And it sent me on a journey where I, where I, I saw a sexologist, which was an absolutely brand new modality at the time that I was looking.

And then when I saw this sexologist, she was going to give me an exam and she was putting the gloves on and you know, the coconut oil and, and she said, you know, I'm gonna do this and that. I'm gonna examine and, and if you feel aroused, that's okay. And I started crying again and again. I was so confused.

I was like, you know, what, what's happening? Like, I don't know why I'm crying.

And instead of like closing it down or, or, or repressing it like I had been, I felt like that was the opportunity to kind of open up to, to allow whatever was underneath those tears to finally come through. And it was fearful and shame and it was like this Rolodex of images that came up for me that tied. I suddenly understood like, that every. That by.

That I had gotten these crossed wires from that. Those childhood experiences, so that every time I became aroused, not just in my body, but in this case, it was my body.

But in life in general, everything shut down. I shut down. My whole life became turned off. My body became turned off. Yeah, so. So that's where I'm coming from.

I have a platform called Life Turned on, and it's about people waking back up to their lives, turning their lives back on. My path to that has been a lot predominantly through my body, my eroticism, and my pleasure.

But for me, pleasure has a much broader definition, which is what makes you feel the most alive.

Yes.

And so I become. I've become the leader of this global movement called the Pleasure Renaissance. Because, you know, we're in a time of such unrest.

And I think those of us on the spiritual path know what that. Know that we're like.

There's almost like this formula that happens as we go to continue to expand our consciousness and release, you know, denser frequencies and quote, unquote, heal and be, you know, and. And release these things that are hiding us from our. Our divine selves. And that's what's happening now collectively.

We're seeing that kind of last die off of the rigid structures, politically and otherwise. And so it's the perfect time. So a lot of people will come to me and be like, you know, how can you be talking about pleasure?

You know, that we should be focused on our pleasure right now with all of this unrest. And I'm like, this is precisely the time that we need to be countering that.

Absolutely, absolutely. And your. Your personal story is one that resonates with so many. I have worked with so many people that would really see themselves in that story.

And so thank you so much for sharing that.

And I'm excited to continue to learn, like, how your story that informed your life and moving into a state of pleasure is now allowing you to be this beacon of light and share that with the world and share it with all the people that you work with.

Thank you. Yeah, it was a real. On, like, for me, again, the path. And I love that we have this, like, beacon of light right here.

But.

But, you know, my path happened to be through my. Through my erotic body. And. And it did. It opened up. It opened up the rest of my life. It opened up my wealth, it opened up my abundance.

It opened up the depth of love that I. That I now have in my life, and it opened up a more confident and centered sense of self, you know?

Yeah, yeah.

So an interesting thing about you is that you have a background in video games and have a more like, techie side of you, which is not in my realm whatsoever. So I'm so interested to learn how you bridge that in with your work.

And this metaphor, or, you know, allegory could also be a term for it that you bring into what pleasure looks like and could mean for somebody in their bodies.

Yeah, thank you. And I think that we both bring a sort of mythic quality to our messaging. And.

And so, yeah, I was actually an author and creator in both comic books and video games and also did some work in film and fiction. But my, my background in video games gave me this really unique perspective that makes sense to me.

And so, you know, it was as if I woke up one day in this with my spiritual awakening, realizing that I was in a video game and that I was both the main player character of that video game, but I was also the game designer. And with that dual knowledge of being, you know, both the player and the designer, you know, what did that mean?

And so I have this slogan that kind of represents it, which is, you are the God of the game, your body is the console, and your pleasures are the cheat codes.

And so I believe that it is our, you know, we are living in such a state of collective survival when we're meant to be living as gods at play, where we play in the levels of the game and learn what our power ups are and learn, you know, what the cheat codes are and learn how to level up both individually and together. And that we are meant to be playing to reclaim the innocence of pleasure. Which I know is part of your platform too. Right. It's not an indulgence.

We're meant to be moving through the world from the lens of what makes us feel most alive.

Yes, absolutely. I keep feeling like, you know, we're uncertain of what's happening with AI moving forward. But I do love the idea.

Even though it would be very hard for a lot of people to lose jobs and our money would need to, the way that we do things in our world would totally have to shift. But I really do love the idea of people just being able to create and play and not feel like we keep having to produce, produce, produce.

I feel like our whole existence as humans has been to just produce to survive.

And I, I just really want to know, like, what would it be like if we could all live into a place where we just got to one rest for a very long time, and then once we've rested enough, then get to just play and create and do things because we love to do them and because it's our calling and not because we feel like we have to. I just. I really would love if we all. Yeah.

Were able to just play in our own games and get to heal the things that we need to heal and then just see where that takes us. I think we inherently are creative divine beings. And I just. I love all of the messaging that you have around that.

Thanks. Yeah.

And what you're describing, you know, the way that it comes across to me is like, we've been in that masculine do, do, do, you know, point of view and that we're finally moving to that more feminine be. You know, who are we being? And then let the. Let the doing come from who we're being.

And this Forbidden Alchemy, which is a book that just came out a couple of weeks ago, it's. It's Forbidden Alchemy, Transmuting Taboo into Erotic Medicine. And it's.

It's the first of six books, what I'm calling the Heroes Codex, which is about the sacred union as well. So the sacred union with self, sacred union with other, and sacred union with all. And what you're describing is the sacred union with self.

Because the way that we. The way that we approach the problem that you're describing is that. That with.

With that masculine hustle and moving back into slate like our divine feminine embodiment. But really what that is about is the. Is the transcending and the.

I hesitate to use the word balancing because it's really a transcending of the inner masculine and inner feminine in each of us. And so, you know, we have to heal our inner masculine in order to get to the place that you're talking about.

And so again, we are seeing that collective reflection outside of us, which is that the masculine needs to be healed collectively for all of this to take place. And so while we're doing it in an individual level, we're also seeing that reflected collectively, you know, in our. In our realities.

Yeah. Can we dive into that a little deeper? Because I do think. I mean, I've. I focus on working more specifically with women.

I have a history in working with all types of people and couples. But I. I don't think that we talk enough about healing the masculine.

And especially for women that have been mostly wounded by the masculine, it's really hard for some people to move into a place of understanding that both masculine and feminine have been wounded in our current society, and we have to heal both. And I think you're coming from a place of. We're not necessarily talking about, like, men and women in terms of gender and our constructs of gender.

Constructs of gender in our current society that we're more talking about the energy of masculine and feminine. Um, but I just think that that's. It's just such an important conversation to have.

You're just gonna see me move around a little bit, see if I can play. Play with this light. But yes, okay.

In fact.

In fact, the Forbidden Alchemy is about the dark masculine and the dark feminine.

So not only do we each have, like, the masculine and feminine traits within us, but we each have the light aspects of that and the dark aspects of that. And the light aspects tend to have to do with harmony and stillness and comfort and gentleness. But the dark masculine has to do with transformation.

And that can look like annihilation and. And chaos and wildness.

And so Forbidden Alchemy is really about taking that very natural piece of art of each of us and highlighting it and actually leaning into it and using it as a portal for healing. So within ourselves and within the book, Forbidden Alchemy, because it's. It. It.

It uses kink and BDSM and other kinds of alternative lifestyles as kind of the context for illustrating the dark masculine and the dark. And the dark feminine. So, you know, we have this wildness, this wild, dark feminine energy in us that wants to move, but if we.

If it just moves on its own without any container, it's destructive. That's different than a kind of clean and purification process of annihilation. That's allowing the truth to come out to. To be reborn.

After that, that destruction happens. And then if we. And then we have, like, the dark masculine. Who's the person that. The dark masculine energy, energetic current.

And they're meant to hold the container and direct that wild energy. Because if we. If he's holding a container and isn't allowing for any movement, then nothing occurs.

So it is in the meeting of the dark masculine holding the container and the dark feminine in her wild. And in the synergy of those two things, something new is born. And that. That.

It transforms us individually and it transforms us, you know, like, I want to say collectively, it's true, but I mean, like, within the context of like a kink scene or something like that, it also transform both. Transforms both individuals who are participating in that kind of. That kind of play.

Yeah, yeah. And I do think your background and my background are so important to this conversation, too, because I do think.

I'm not throwing shade on anyone, but I do think that there are segments of the spiritual community that don't always accept people in alternative lifestyles and make that part of the conversation. So I love that you're pulling that in there and saying also that it's not just women that are going through this.

Like, we are all collectively as humanity, moving through these phases of healing and healing, both the masculine and the feminine, and we all have masculine and feminine in us. So I think that's a really important piece of this conversation that, like, everyone is welcome here.

Yeah. And it's funny that you mention what.

What, you know, is almost like a paradox, like, because recently I've been finding, like, you know, I've been called to counterculture, even within my counterculture. And so I'm in. Right. So I'm in strat. I'm straddling this liminal space even in the context of my alternative lifestyles, where I'm not.

I'm too spiritual for. For my dirty people, and I'm too dirty for my spiritual people. And so, you know, what happens next?

And I. I finally realized that I have to create what's next.

And.

And I know there are. I know there are people who feel the way I do. And. And. And that's really, like, my big drive to create the Pl. This pleasure Renaissance movement.

And it. It has these pillars like pleasure literacy, you know, to talk about why.

Why pleasure should be at the forefront of our collective expansion and pleasure literacy in terms of, like, actually learning the body's spectrum of pleasure, like, the body as oracle. Because, you know, pleasure is not the same. I'm sorry if I went to interrupt. No, go.

Yeah.

But pleasure is not the same as an absence of suffering or an absence of pain. Right. It might be at the very bottom of the spectrum, but there's, like, everything in between between that and aliveness.

And then another pillar would be sensory aliveness, right? So, like learning how to. How to be with the body's sensations and layering sensation so that you're perceiving more than one sensation at once.

Because the more sensation you can hold, especially pleasure, you know, energetically, the more wealth you can hold, the more. The deeper love you can hold, the more abundance you can hold. So sensory aliveness is a piece of it.

And then regenerative community, you know, so that we become. Because I think we're all. I think we are moving toward, like, you know, for Lack of a better way to say it.

As, as, as global as we have a reach now, we're starting, we're going to start reverting to more village like communal behaviors and they're going to be in such a way that, that each village isn't, isn't. It could be a completely sustainable ecosystem.

Right.

But I believe that we are moving toward a more regenerative way of interacting.

And so each community will on purpose, not be insular, not be totally self contained so that we are regeneratively like contributing to the communities around us. And I think that diversity is going to be the currency.

Yes.

For that. And then the last pillar.

It would be, the last pillar is what I call myth making because I'm going to start pulling together, you know, conscious media like games, tv, movie, film and comic books and other things because we can start to, we can start to create a visual and media specific legacy around pleasure as the center of our expansion.

And you know, so what kinds of video games and comics and movies and stuff are we leaving behind so that the next generations continue the renaissance that I'm suggesting, you know, that we're, that we're on the path to beautiful. I'll say one more thing which is the, there's this.

I also have, I feel really strongly about these global initiatives around female genital mutilation.

That needs to be something that is addressed because pleasure is a birthright and child and childhood marriage, like child marriage is also like a problem even still here in the States. There's, you know, at least a dozen states that still have laws that, you know, do not protect children from being sold in that kind of way.

Absolutely.

I just saw an article about it and like, I don't remember what state it was, but happening in the United States and people don't think that that happens in the United States.

Yeah.

And, and, and again, people, people, it's, it's my strong belief that people in their pleasure, that know their pleasure and know how to satisfy themselves in their pleasure, have a more complete and centered sense of self.

Yes.

And because of that it makes them less controllable, less influenceable, less governable by these rigid systems of control that use fear, you know, to influence us. And so for me, so for me, Forbidden alchemy is a piece of pleasure activism.

Absolutely, absolutely. I, again, I was going to say, I feel like you just took all my ideas and put them into a beautiful movement that has already been created by you.

You come play with me.

Yes, I, let's do it.

I mean, we're going to do it together. Right. It's not something that I can do alone. So yes, we're going to be. We need to do it together. Together, absolutely.

Can we go back to the first pillar?

I think all the pillars I would love to expand more on, but the first pillar in particular for people that are like just getting on board to this conversation really understanding like what. Why this is so important.

Pleasure literacy.

Yeah.

Yeah. Because we live and are conditioned in a. To. To. To.

To move in our lives from the point of view of survival and comparison and competition and fear and, and we, and I understand why. Right. As a person who with trauma in my background, like I understand why fear is a natural response or protection is a natural response.

The victim perpet. But it leaves us in this victim perpetrator like forever loop.

Even, even shadow work like shadow work is super popular right now as like the way to heal. And, and that's not wrong. That's a, that's, that's kind of like on the spectrum of pleasure. It's on the spectrum of expansion.

Shadow work is important tools for holding space for your shadows is important.

But the truth is when you move instead of like getting stuck in that hamster loop hamster wheel of shadow work and like always kind of on the road of like I'm never fully healed, I'm. I'm still broken. You'll get stuck there.

Yeah.

And by shifting your perspective to be coming from the point of view of pleasure, all of your shadows and anything that is not part of like your identity as a pleasure filled God at play, you know, whatever, whatever isn't aligned with that vision will come up anyway. So your shadows will come up but you can also use pleasure to clear them and to use for integration, you know.

So like even focusing on the taboo, like thinking of the taboo as something that is going to bring you pleasure instead of something to be ashamed about is a really huge shift in perspective. And energetically it will quantum leap you in your own life and in your own expansion journey.

Yeah. Yes, absolutely.

And then I, and then the second part of the pleasure literacy was that the body as oracle. Right.

So we, we learn like sacred sexuality with self is where is what I tend to talk about it, you know when people ask me about this or, or self worship like knowing your body's pleasure. And of course it also including sensual and erotic pleasure of the body.

But I also mean like, like I have a goddess night that I create for myself every week.

So I take myself out on a date, I, I shower and I anoint my body, I dress for myself, I cook, or I take myself out somewhere and then when I come back home, I, you know, I might undress in front of the mirror and play great music and touch my body and, and, and, and, and be in love with myself. But it's even less important about, like, what you're doing because I can still do self worship.

Even, like, I can go do all the things that people think of as typical self care, like pedicures and whatever. But what's more important than what I'm doing with or to my body? It's how am I bringing presence to that act?

How am I, how am I inhabiting the moment?

If I'm, if I am cooking for myself, you know, if I never take, if I just have everything else on my mind and I'm absentmindedly cooking, I'm not receiving the worship from myself.

So it takes a level of like, bringing your, bringing a depth of presence to, and, and like thanking yourself, like, this is for you because you deserve this, and, and then being like, and thank you. Thank you for treating me so well. Like, it's, it's a journey of falling in love with oneself again.

And so things incorporating, like these, these things that we carry shame around, like our taboos is a faster, more efficient way to get you, you know, to your highest timeline and to your next level of awareness and consciousness.

Yes, yes. Beautiful. I, I love coming back to the body and talking about, I love your phrase, the body as an oracle.

Because so many of us have been programmed to not pay attention to our bodies, to actually actively divorce ourselves from our bodies, not trust our bodies to.

Think that, that it's not spiritual to be in touch with your body in that way.

Yeah, yeah. And it is. Our bodies are holding all the things that we need to know.

Yes. And it will tell you what your next move is if you don't know what you need to do next. And you need to choose between two things.

You know, like, I, I believe that pleasure is a technology. And you know, in this video game, you know, the, the, the meta goal of the game is for us to find our message. Like, what are we supposed to leave?

What's the legacy we're supposed to leave behind, you know, in the world? What's, what is our dharma? And like, how do we ever know that we're on the path to our dharma?

I think pleasure, I think pleasure is the answer to that question. And so if we always have, like, two things that we're choosing between and we're Choosing the one that makes us feel more alive. We will. We will.

We will not miss the. The. The up levels. We will not miss the. The achie. The. The achievements will be unlocked. We'll not. We'll.

We will call in our highest timeline and we will discover our dharma. Like, there's just. No, that's just how it's going to work. That's just how the game works.

Yes, absolutely.

I think there's so many spiritual people out there and intuitives out there, and one person that I've connected well with for this reason says, you know, it's God because it feels good. And I think that comes back to pleasure. It's like, yes, if it feels good, then that is what is divine for you.

And our bodies intuitively know what feels good and what doesn't feel good. And we just have to develop the skill to listen to that.

That's exactly it. I, I say that pleasure is the. The divine speaking through the body.

Yes, absolutely. So what does it look like to be a part of your pleasure Renaissance movement?

What does that actually look like in practice if people wanted to come into your circle?

Yeah. What a great question that I haven't been asked yet.

You know, it starts with the choice to be more in love with yourself than holding the fear of being judged for pursuing your pleasure. It would be learning to play your body like an instrument. You know, erotic alchemy. The erotic alchemy and sex magic.

You know, sex magic are some of my private temple practices that I definitely teach in programs, and I want to create a membership at some point. I want to create a membership as well, where I'm teaching people so that we're using the. The emerging group field, the potency of the group field.

So when we're, you know, if everybody knows, let's say, how to do sex magic.

Yeah.

Then. Then we don't. We don't even need to meet online. We can just pick a day and time and be like, this is going to be the time for us to.

To be in our pleasure, whatever that means to the person that's participating, you know, for this 90 minutes, we're going to be in our pleasure.

And, and, and, and we can direct that energy in community and use it to amplify and synergistically raise each other and expand each other's consciousness. The inner regenerative. That's part of my regenerative community aspect as well.

Yeah.

And then, you know, fighting out. Fighting against things, speaking out against things like female genital mutilation, child marriage.

Buying, buying the books, you know, buying books that are about pleasure and in paying for programming and, and finding alternative investors and stuff. So we have projects that are, you know, pleasure as praxis, you know, pleasure as theory.

You know, taking the theory and putting into actual practice, stopping, you know, challenging your own internal narratives around being a victim of anything or that there are perpetrators of anything. You know, there's a lot of ways to participate and it's really from the inside out.

It's deciding that you're worth, you're worth falling in love with yourself and you are worth discovering what your pleasure is. Cause a lot of people don't even know what makes them feel most alive, you know, and what a fun again like what a fun journey.

What a great level of the video game that you get to go try a bunch of things, you know, again like Forbidden Alchemy has these post chapter practices, these exercises that go from mild to wild. Really. Like there's, you know, there's, there's primal play and polarity play and power exchange and rope.

And then it talks about forbidden love and other ways to be, to be in relationship. And it has these practices that you can just start to, you can even.

There's even journaling exercises that like where your dark, your inner dark masculine is communicating with your inner dark feminine to, to figure out what you want to do next. And then there's like these spicy add ons to those exercises where you can kind of take it and like read, maybe read that script to someone else.

So that's a little exposing and you're like, you're, you're titrating like the effect on your nervous system.

And then there's like spicier add ons where maybe you actually plan, you know, a five minute primal, primal play scene, you know, where it's like a hunt and a hunt and capture scene in your bedroom, you know, for five minutes. So I've tried to design the book in such a way that it can't it.

The person, a person that has never really tried can start to play and then has, has these. But I've also, I've also shared my own personal sexploits, you know, in ways that are. And some of them are pretty extreme.

And the reason I shared that the extreme ones was on purpose because that means that your sandbox that you get to play in is so much bigger. Like if you think like, oh, I don't know, I want to do this sort of play, but I don't know who. You know, I feel shame around It.

And so I'm like, want to take one step forward, but you're so worried about the judgment around it. But I've given you such a big soundbox now to play in that you're like, wait, I just want to be flogged. And, you know, this is what people are doing.

I just want to be flogged. It's like it suddenly just takes the pressure off of that. That level of shame that you're.

That you're carrying around it because you realize that there are people playing at. At a much more intense level than even that. And so you. It opens up the possibilities for you.

Yeah, yeah. So thinking about, like, the type of person that would pick up this book, are they kind of on a journey already around sexuality?

Could it be somebody. I know you said that it could be somebody that hasn't maybe even played at all. And being a sex professional, like, I know what that means.

But to a person that is not in the sex space, being able to play essentially just means being able to again, think of pleasure as play.

Being able to think of accessing that in your body and with whoever you end up wanting to play with, if you do want to play with somebody else, as like, very consensual experiences that we go in together and co create together.

So is this again, for somebody that is maybe on a journey and is at a point where it's like, I'm ready to step into a space where I want to learn more, like, learn more about what I usually call it, like the toolbox or the treasure box of things that you can pull out when you want something new. Or could it be for somebody that is truly. Like, I have had a lot of trauma. I've had a lot of repression around sex and sexuality.

And like, this is my first kind of touch point on trying to heal some of that for myself.

I think that. I think that anyone who is on, you know, is it. Let's say they're spiritual and they're on that edge of the taboo.

Yes.

That's a great person for the book. If you're. If you're well into your taboo journey and you're on the verge of spirituality, I think you're a great market for the book. And then.

And then I think that anybody who is dealing with shame, you know, because the structure of the book is meant to take you on a similar.

Like the journey that I was essentially on, which was when I stepped into the kink community, I had, you know, I had an unspoken incest fetish, you know, and There's a good reason for that.

Right.

But I didn't share it with anybody for years because I had felt such shame around it. And so the book takes you from the. The shame. This, like.

So I had a need for certain kinds of play, some of which I played right away and some which I still hid for years before I played in it. But that. That need was created because of the traumatic experience and because of the shame I was carrying.

Yeah.

So the book takes you from, like, the need, shame, fear, through to. Once you. Once you feed the need, especially if you're consciously aware of it and you.

And you are intentionally participating and going at a pace that doesn't collapse your nervous system, you move from need to desire and choice and sovereignty. Because, like, an example would be that I came into the. The. The kink community as a submissive.

And the reason I really needed that was because I didn't have, you know, I had abandonment wounds. I didn't have a lot of physical affection in my. In my first family as I was growing up. And so I got those things in submission.

And I loved being in service because it made me feel valuable. And so as I fed those needs and I finally fed them enough, I didn't know this consciously at the time, but I'm able to dissect it now.

I filled my cup, and when my cup was full, the need dissolved. And it doesn't mean that I. So I opened up to other kinds of play, other roles, you know, so it wasn't like I went from submissive to dominant.

I tried that and never quite felt like. Right. And I can still step into those moments, you know, where I can do that primal play.

You know, I would call myself like a primal sensualist at this point or a hedonist. But what it did was it gave me. So I can still. I still choose to play as a submissive with the right counterpart.

Right.

But it's no longer coming from a place of need. I just can choose. So it's still part of my repertoire. It's sort of my menu of play, but still available to me, but it's now just.

It's no, It's a choice instead of it being a compulsion. And when I started to speak about this in my community years ago, nobody wanted to talk about it.

They were so frightened by the ask, the notion of that they might somehow not want to do that anymore. They were. They were so like heroin, like, you.

Know, like the hit.

They were like the drug was so potent to them at the time that we couldn't even talk about it in community because that's how much they wanted to grasp and cling onto the wound and the feeding of the wound.

Interesting. Yeah, yeah.

Well, and I, you know, I always like to make sure that people know that kink doesn't necessarily have to come from a like, deep traumatic wound. And just like you're saying, if it does, it doesn't have to stay there.

That there is real transformative and healing work that happens with play in that community.

And I've done some trainings with people that are very much in that community and talk about, like, the different ways that they've been able to actually say, like, hey, I want to work on this specific thing that's coming up for me in this scene that we can do together and make it so that it's safe enough that I can really live into this moment for myself and work through it.

And also there's other times where it's like, I just want to have fun and I just want to play and I just want to do something that is not about healing my internal self.

That's pleasure. That's true pleasure.

Right?

That's when you sit in true pleasure. You're reminding me of an example, like in your. Right, like your kinks and fetishes don't have to have come from any kind of experience at all.

It could be, you can also. And they're also generational inheritances that, that can be layered into these things and past life as well. Past life experiences.

But I'm reminded of like, let's say there's a two year old, you know, who is playing with themself, which is a super natural and normal wonderful thing.

And in, in the context of like just absentmindedly touching themselves, their aunt walks by with a great pair of bright red shoes, you know, and boom, shoe fetish, foot fetish, whatever. Right. Like, super simple, super innocent. Has nothing to do with anything.

Yeah.

And that can create a fetish.

And so, yeah, you're again, the shame that's created and the, and the bullshit stories that supposed certified professionals are trying to make us choke down. That it means that we're broken or that, you know, or that we're traumatized.

That we were must have been traumatized in order for that to have been developed. Just isn't the truth, you know?

Yeah, yeah. Absolutely. So cool. So many different facets to the things that you do. Um, I feel like I had a question and I lost it. But that's all right. We can.

Oh, I know. I wanted to ask you about how you came into, like working specifically on pleasure and then also bringing the spiritual element into it.

And of course I'm bridging those things together as well. And I think they go beautifully together. But I'm wondering for you, like, what was that journey like for you?

And how have you come to both of these things at the same time?

Yeah, that's a great question.

I.

When I had my spiritual awakening, I was already leader and community and educator in the communities. And I started to become. I. I became a healer for a while. I actually left writing video games and comic books and all those things.

And I became an educator and multidimensional healer. You know, I was already the educator, but added this layer of spirituality. And so for like four or five years I was doing that kind of work.

It was a blended modality I called guided epigenetic release and included like somatic healing and nervous system regulation and past life and ancestral trauma integration and, you know, other modalities.

I just knew that I needed to no longer be saying healer. I needed to no longer be talking about shadow work. And I didn't know what I should be talking about, but I just knew that there was, I was.

That something was happening in me and that there was a language that was. That that was gonna come to me. And I went through a big initiatory. Initial initiator. Initiatory portal. Yeah, in that.

At that time, because I. I lost my central relationship, which meant I. And that was only the second person I'd ever lived with. So I lost my home. I. My. Because I had. My business was cracked open.

Cuz I was trying to figure it out. That was, you know, just hanging in the air at that time. Financially, there was some stuff going on. And then my health was turned upside down.

And so I had to go through a really big portal to find what became, what dropped in, which was my Dharma, which is my platform of spiritual mastery through pleasure. Because pleasure is exponentially more powerful and efficient.

It's, you know, I don't know if you know, David R. Hawkins work, but he has what we call the map of consciousness, you know, where you take the emotions and he's measured them, they're almost like. Almost like frequency, you know, speeds. And we think of love as the most potent emotion and the most potent frequency we can hold.

But on the map of consciousness, love is only in the middle of that spectrum. And what. Guess what's above it? Joy, bliss, ecstasy, enlightenment. Yeah, so like, even.

Even when we use like, sex magic, you know, sex magic is really about like using these carrier waves, these fre frequencies for faster and more precise manifestation. Well, love, you can use love or you can use pleasure. And pleasure's more efficient, pleasure's faster, and you'll feel better playing in it.

Even better. Or for me, like, I, like, I'm. I'm like I love pleasure on time. Like love is.

Love is kind of subsumed, you know, within the context of pleasure for me.

Interesting.

So. So that's how. That's how I dropped in. I dropped in through my own initiation.

Yeah. Yeah. Beautiful. Are you familiar with Emily Fletcher's work?

Tell me.

No.

She's very much in to sex magic, so I was just wondering because she has the exact same vision of you of using sex magic to like, in community and as a collective, really channel what we want this new earth to look like and like, birth it into existence through sex magic.

And like, as a person that learned about sex and working with sex in a very like, clinical way, it's been interesting to learn more about sex magic and how it's. I feel like it's kind of the next step.

It's really honing in on if you are somebody that is now comfortable and feels like they can access pleasure with ease and it feels safe in your body, it's kind of this next step in.

Again, if you are in this space and in the spiritual realm of using that to then be in this creative space and yeah, like, co create with each other and the universe, which is so cool. So I love that that's a through line for you too.

Yeah. In fact, pain and pleasure are just two stories. They're. They're two frequencies. And like I had a. I had like a sadistic massage once.

I'm not sure if that was what it was intended to be, but it turned out like my, My calves are really sore, you know? Yeah. And so he would. I remember he was. He was, you know, he was moving his hands down my calves and.

And it was like right on the brink of pain and pleasure and. And I. I had this opportunity. I am, I'm. I did discover. I did discover that I am a masochist as well. And as he ran his hands down that. My. My calf.

And I felt that. I felt that edge between pain and pleasure. I started to play with the word. Literally just the word. So as I changed the story.

Pain, pleasure, pain, pleasure. Like the set of sensations I was feeling changed. There was a nuance to. To what I was feeling.

And so part of what I believe is the next step, even beyond us and Emily talking about pleasure.

Yeah.

Is that so? So sex magic is. Is more about using. You know, of course, there's. There's sort of the climax, which is thought of as, like, the peak frequency.

There's pleasure and the building of pleasure. So you're building the frequency.

Once you master that, then you can take neutrality and make it into pleasure and raise neutrality into pleasure into climax. And once you. Once you master neutrality, you can take pain, turn it into neutrality, and then build that into pleasure and into climax.

So, you know, that's. That's what's available. That's what's coming.

Absolutely, absolutely. I. I think we are on the precipice, just as your movement is called, of a pleasure renaissance, that.

I think we're on the precipice of pleasure renaissance, creative Renaissance, community Renaissance. I think we are. We have huge, huge shifts that are going to be happening. I agree.

I don't think we can even, like, really comprehend the full scope of what so exciting.

I'm so excited because, you know, my spiritual journey, the universe delivers, you know, like, I cannot tell you how many times I experience something beyond, well, beyond my imagination that, you know, something that I've called in and. And think about it this way. Like, we know that we're the creators of our reality and that our thoughts are become. Right.

Our manifestations, but in that. So imagine if we get so good at our awareness of our own pleasure that, you know, I want something, and I'm like, ooh, how can I. How can I.

How can I amplify the frequency? And I'm like, ooh, I can just do this and then call in. Call in that manifestation. I love goosebumps.

So that one's, like, a really common thing for me. I'm often asking myself, like, how can I make this moment more pleasurable? And it's often by, you know, running my hand through my hair and.

Or creating goosebumps. But like, that goosebump, that's a raising of your frequency.

And so, again, like, the higher your frequency, the faster your manifestations will come to you.

Yes, absolutely.

Well, can you tell people how they can stay in your orbit, how they can get your book all the things that you want to have people know about how they can work with you.

Yeah, thank you for asking. Um, I went my website, certainly sharonmariescott. Com you can find me. My platforms tend to be called Life Turned on or Sharon Life turned on.

So IG would be Sharon life turned on. YouTube and TikTok are life turned On. And I do have like this 12 week course that's coming up in the spring called the Pleasure Frequency Atelier.

And it's about me sharing my private temporal secrets on sex, magic and erotic alchemy and pleasure literacy teaching. Like, like six weeks of activation. An actual in person retreat where we actually do the embodied work that we've learned in those six weeks.

And we learn to open our receiving. Our receiving channels. And then, and then, and then the, the integration, four weeks of integration and then the closing ceremony.

Because a lot of what people don't talk about in these transformational programs that we see is they, they highlight all the stuff that, that's going to be the great stuff at the end, but they don't talk about all of this stuff that comes up.

Yeah.

In order to, that has to be cleared in order for you to be able to maintain that new elevated frequency. And so this is very, you know, this is very plain about that. And that's why those integration weeks are so key.

So there's that and then eventually I am, you know, there's this pleasure renaissance. Like I'm gonna need community. I can't do this on my own. You know, I, I have to.

There's gonna be like nonprofits built and you know, and connections to, to, to conscious media people and you know, so if there are people out there that, that know how to help me get this organized, that would be really, that would, that would be an amazing step that would help me and help, it would help everyone, you know.

Yeah. Yeah.

Be in your. And be in your pleasure. Be in your pleasure.

Yes, yes. I'm not sure exactly how I can fit into the movement, but I, I mean, sign me up. I, I think this is a good.

You're doing it here. You're doing it by amplifying my voice, right?

Yeah.

That is regenerative community. You are participating in regenerative community right now.

Yes.

Thank you. Thank you for giving me this platform to speak about this.

Absolutely. I think this is also.

We, especially those of us that are in business, I really wanted to get out of this mentality of feeling like I'm in competition with other people and even people that overlap with me significantly. We all have our own flavor of how we do something.

And so I really wanted this podcast to not just be about me, but to be about all these amazing people that I either already know or I'm meeting for the first time that are already doing a lot of this work, but in their own way. So I'm so glad to provide this platform for everyone to get to talk about these really fun topics that. That I really love to talk about.

And I know, right?

You're in your pleasure while you're doing this. Fantastic. I mean, that's it. Do that. Everyone should go do that.

Yes. Yes. Well, thank you so much for being here. I had such a wonderful conversation with you. I could keep going.

Yes, I know.

I would love to have you on.

That's when you know.

Right?

That's when you know it's.

Yes.

It's resonating. Yeah.

Yes, absolutely. So I'd love to have you back on whenever you feel the call. And, yes, I.

The second book. Second book comes out in February. Flesh and Flame. Pleasure as the portal to divine mastery. We can certainly talk then. I would love it.

Yes, I. I would also love that. I. I think this is a really important. I want to say niche, but I just think perspective.

I think you having this specific perspective and especially bringing in your own story and being in the kink and BDSM realm, I just think that that also paired with spirituality, I have not actually heard those things go together.

So I love that perspective that you have, and I think that book is important for people that are in that space that are really searching for something that resonates with them in that way.

I mean, for it to. I mean, for it to change lives, to crack you open and change your life, it's really meant for that.

Yeah. Yeah. So go get Sharon's book. Wherever. Wherever books are sold.

Yeah, that's true. It is a traditionally published book, so. Forbidden Alchemy. Transmuting Taboo into Erotic Medicine. Because there are a couple of other.

Honestly, like these fiction books that have a similar title. So the subtitle is important in this case.

Yeah. All right. Anything else before we close out?

Just, again, my gratitude. And. And, you know, I hope. I hope that the world will see more of this and that collectively we will come together to. To.

To expand each other and to be in. And to be in pleasurable and loving community.

Yeah. Yes. Yes. Agreed. Well, until my next episode, take care, all. And thank you so much, Sharon, for being here.

Thank you.

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