Daily Bible Podcast: Engaging with Deuteronomy's Civil and Moral Laws

In this episode of the Daily Bible Podcast, dated March 17th-18th, 2025, hosts discuss their commitment to providing fresh, culturally relevant insights into the Bible's teachings. They focus on Deuteronomy 21-23, exploring various civil and moral laws. Topics include unsolved murders, marrying foreign women, execution practices, and laws about societal operations and sexual sin. The conversation emphasizes the importance of understanding historical context and addresses common concerns about the Old Testament's applicability today. The hosts also announce an upcoming open house and encourage thoughtful and respectful approaches to worship.

00:00 Introduction and Freshness of the Podcast

01:34 Upcoming Open House Event

02:41 Bible Reading: Deuteronomy 21-23

02:49 Unsolved Murders and Marrying Foreign Women

04:09 Rebellious Sons and Execution

07:27 Sexual Sin and Various Laws

12:33 Holiness and Civil Society

20:23 Concluding Thoughts and Prayer

21:18 Outro and Podcast Information

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March 17th, March 18th, 2025.

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We want part of our vision for

our church is that we would be a

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Anyways, let's let's jump

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Deuteronomy 21, 22, 23, only

three chapters today, not four,

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just three but chapter 21.

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Here is a chapter dealing with

more justice and civil laws.

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What to do, for example,

with an unsolved murder.

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And this is interesting.

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The whole idea of, Hey, find the closest

town and have them come out and offer

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a sacrifice and wash their hands over

the sacrifice to symbolize that they're

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innocent, that they didn't witness this,

that nobody in their city has done this.

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And so that's an interesting

way to go about this.

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But God cares about unsolved murders.

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Notice that it, this doesn't lead to the,

a light bulb over the person that did it.

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It's not like there's a promise of

resolution to this, but this is just a way

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to say, at least for the town nearest by

we didn't have anything to do with this.

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So just know that.

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And so unsolved murder and justice there,

how to handle marrying a foreign woman.

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That's there too.

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And that's interesting because our

conversation yesterday, what about?

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How do we handle this?

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And I've always looked at this as this

is somebody that's from outside of

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the promised land territories, that

if there's a, somebody from the trans

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Jordan or from another area that ends

up the Israelites come across them,

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that this is part of the rules for.

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It's not a schedule.

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It's process.

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So we have a great release.

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This is on live streaming,

which is going to be around and

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also on the afternoon in April.

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So you're going to see it.

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So you're going to see it.

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at or it's going to be a little bit

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So I think people are going to be excited.

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Execution as well, not just for the

rebellious son, but just in general.

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This is interesting.

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The rebellious son one is fascinating.

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And I was reading some commentaries

about that because it does result

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in the death of that child.

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And it seems okay, that's, I'm sure

those listening to us if you're a

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parent, you've had a rebellious child.

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And so you probably going.

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This seems extreme.

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And in foreign nations, that son or

daughter was disinherited if they were

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rebellious, but in Israel there to be

executed and the commentary that I was

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reading on this, and I tend to agree

PR, I'd love to get your thoughts said

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the reason being is the connection of

obedience with the parents to obedience

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to the Lord, that this was not just

about the rebellion against the father,

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but it was ultimately about rebellion

against God because God had placed

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them under the authority of the father.

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Absolutely.

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And part of the keys to

that is the verbiage.

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So you shall purge the evil from your

midst and all Israel shall hear and fear.

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So who are they fearing?

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What are they fearing?

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Of course, they're fearing their Lord.

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That's ultimately the golden desire.

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And I just wanted to insert something

because we just read about marrying

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female captives and that seems a bit

weird and a little icky and perhaps

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could offend our modern sensibilities.

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I have to remind you, remember that

you're reading something that is.

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It's thousands of years old

and their context and their

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culture made this made sense.

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So even if you're reading it and

it gives you the, a certain feeling

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in your stomach where you're like,

man, that does not feel right.

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How could God do that?

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Why?

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Why would God allow that?

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God will always do right.

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And God is just and he,

what he does is justice.

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He doesn't conform to

an external standard.

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Like we mentioned a podcast ago or

so he himself does justice, period.

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He defines it.

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So here, what we're seeing is

God take care of the woman.

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You might not read it that way.

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You might see it as Oh, I

can't, this is so egregious.

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He's sending us a misogynistic

and all these things.

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You're reading it with a modern lens.

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You got to read from the original

audience's understanding and

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then eventually do the work to

bring it into our modern context.

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So I just want to affirm.

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Affirm our position here, read the

Bible with eyes that look to the Lord,

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deferring to him that time, that context.

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Yeah, man that's hard to

do, but it's important.

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It's a discipline we need

in, in approaching the text.

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So I need a good commentary,

multiple commentaries, even that

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help you do that because it's hard.

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No one's expecting you to go start digging

up old books and say, okay, how do they

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think So you can get a good commentary.

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Even a good ESV study Bible, a

good MacArthur study Bible will

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help you with some of these things.

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And I have the theological study Bible.

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That was a good one too.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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And the Zonervan international

Bible background commentary.

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Again, I've been talking about that a lot.

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The 500 commentary

series you wanted to buy?

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It's good, man.

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And that's what it is.

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Bible background commentary is giving you

a lot of the color to the culture that

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you don't necessarily see in the context.

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All right, I'm going to buy it.

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And if I don't like it, I'm asking it.

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I'm asking for a refund from you.

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Done.

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Done.

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Yep.

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Yep.

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It's good, man.

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It's worth it.

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Notice also real quick end of the chapter.

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Don't want to miss this.

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The man hanged on a tree is cursed.

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This is about execution and notice the

parallel here that the way that Paul takes

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this at least and applies it to Christ

Galatians three, he became a curse for us.

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And this is what it's talking about.

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And he quotes this curse.

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It is everyone who's hanged on a tree.

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And that's from Deuteronomy 21, 23.

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So here we see an allusion to the death of

Christ at the end of this chapter not as

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a guilty criminal, but as innocent dying

in our place, who were the guilty ones.

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And so we see that messianic

connection there in the end

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of chapter 21, chapter 22.

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Then the opening, this chapter

contains various laws, including

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laws about sowing two types of seed,

plowing with a donkey and a cow

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wearing a garment with mixed threads.

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But the majority of the chapter

focuses on sexual sin and what to do

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in various situations where a charge of

immorality is leveled against a person.

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or persons, how justice is to be

administered or applied there quickly.

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Talk about the fact that people

will point this out to us and say,

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look, you guys are hypocrites.

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You accept the, you accept the

commandments that talk about

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sexuality, but you don't accept these.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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This one, that's a tough,

that's not a quick answer.

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Because mostly this is,

people are divided as to why.

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These laws existed commentaries are

going well, it could be this it could

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be this and there's some whack a

doodle Answers that are out there.

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Honestly, this has been perverted by

some to suggest Look, this is God saying

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that races should stay within races as

far as marriage is concerned because

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you're not supposed to blend You're not

supposed to mix and that's what God is

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implying here That's an abuse of the text.

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That's not anywhere stated in the text.

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That's taking things way too far.

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So Why was it this way?

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And again it's God is consecrating

his people, setting them aside.

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And so this is not a moral issue.

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This is God saying, this is what I want

you to do and so you're gonna do it.

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And so this is not something

that we would follow through.

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It's not repeated in the New Testament

versus a lot of the sexual morays and

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values are repeated in the New Testament.

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So we've talked about that before

as far as the Old Testament loss

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saying, we're gonna observe and obey

those things that are reiterated new.

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New Testament, and certainly sexual

purity is championed in the New Testament.

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So we're going to hold fast to that.

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Whereas Jesus doesn't say, Hey

Peter, don't wear a tunic of mixed

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threads when you go out fishing.

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Yeah.

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And you might recall that scripture

says that we're to rightly divide the

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truth, which says that there is a right

way to cut it and there's a wrong way.

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Remember that the law can be divided

up into several civil ceremonial

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and moral and understanding

it rightly means understanding

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the context, understanding the.

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The import.

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And to your point, that's not always easy.

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Commentators are divided about

what these actually mean, but what

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you can do generally speaking with

some degree of safety is okay.

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What's the principle?

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What does this teach me about God?

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And we can see again, God is orderly.

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God is kind.

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He's compassionate.

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God is organized.

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It doesn't mean that there should not be

mixtures between races, but God was trying

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to create distinction in his people.

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And that's always a good thing.

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New Testament does repeat

that we are to be different.

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In fact, it does repeat Leviticus

19, we're to be holy to the Lord.

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So that's part of our job and that's,

I think what's being suggested here.

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You're to be a holy people that look

different from the surrounding cultures.

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Yeah, totally.

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And even just maybe some of the

parallel of you're getting ready

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to go into a an atmosphere where

I'm calling you not to mix.

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I'm calling you not to, to wed.

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with foreigners.

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I'm calling you not to intermingle

and not to be what is ecumenical?

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Not ecumenical, but what's

the other word for inclusion?

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Yes.

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Thank you.

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Not to be syncretistic when it comes

to your worship practices there.

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So maybe this was, Hey, I'm going to

remind you that with the clothes that you

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wear only have clothing of one material.

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Don't And don't join two different

types of animals together

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when you apply your field.

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And even in those things, a

reminder to the people to say,

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okay, we're called to be separate.

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We're called to be distinct.

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We're not called to compromise

or be syncretistic when it comes

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to our practice of religion.

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What about this bird thing here?

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Keep the mother alive.

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Take the eggs.

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Yeah, I think, we talked about this

just on the text thread with you

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and I and Mark and Lewis last week,

just about God's view of animals.

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And I do think God does care

for those that he has created.

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It's not the Imago Dei,

it's not the image of God.

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So it's going to be different.

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But I think this is a matter of saying,

Hey, don't be unnecessarily cruel.

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Take the food that you

can get from the eggs.

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Enjoy that.

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But but leave the leave the mom

alone and and let her go about

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her business two cents on that.

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Yeah, I agree with that.

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I think that's fantastic.

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And several of the commentaries talk

about protecting their food source.

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Yeah.

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So don't be short sighted and

just eat the whole family.

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It's like, where'd all the food go?

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How about a cross dressing here?

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What about that?

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And that's something that

is, is clearly prohibited.

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It's an abomination.

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And that is something that

is, is not to be done.

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God takes it very seriously to

the point of, Hey, you're going

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to be executed if you do this.

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And so I think that is not not necessarily

strictly repeated in the new Testament.

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I think that does fall under the

Leviticus 19 holiness blanket.

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I do think that falls under the natural

relations of men, man and woman together.

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I think we can tuck that under

there and that certainly is

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reiterated in the new Testament.

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And so I think there's

grounds for that to be.

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Obeyed and observed as well.

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Do I need a fence around my roof?

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No.

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No, but you should be

wise about your property.

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If you've got a trampoline in the

backyard, you don't wanna be an

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idiot and not have insurance to cover

something that's gonna happen there.

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That's, I think that's the idea there.

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Hey, just be smart.

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If you've got a roof and there people

are going up on that, you don't put a

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fence up, somebody could fall off and

seriously injure themselves or die.

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And that's, you should care enough life

about life enough for that and also be

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wise to, to care about your own wellbeing.

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What should happen to you if

something like that took place?

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Yeah.

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I think the, probably one of the

principles is protect life, protect and

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preserve life as best as you can within

reason, protect and preserve life.

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Yeah.

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Those are, that's really helpful.

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And I think that's a really good

example of what it looks like to

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take the ancient texts and say,

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Yep.

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So chapter 23, then here we open with

a section on who may or may not be

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permitted into fellowship with the Lord.

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Also a section on keeping the camp

holy during battle, which Pastor

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Rod has a unique comment on.

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And the majority of the chapter contains

laws pertaining to the operation of

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civil society there within Israel.

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Again, a lot of kind of scattershot

seemingly scattershot, but it's important

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because they're prepping Israel to

enter in and take the promised land.

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You're just going to skip

that whole second half of.

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Chapter 22 second half of chapter 22

where they talk about women in the field

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and Whether she cries or doesn't cry.

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I mentioned these are focused on

sexual sin what to do in various

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situations of things People

are gonna question about that.

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They're gonna question Just feels like

I think the text says what it says.

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It does.

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It does.

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And I'm not trying to say

that we should justify God.

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I'm just saying, okay, people are going

to wonder why, why does she have to yell?

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Cause she not come later and perhaps

she's traumatized or, something like that.

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Yeah.

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I think the heart of it is.

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If the implication is if the woman's

complicit in it if this is consensual

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in our modern day terminology,

then there, there's no guilt there,

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as, as far as that's concerned.

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But if it's the R star P word,

then it is a problem in God's eyes.

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And so I think rather than looking

at this going, wait a minute, let's

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nitpick and find the injustice here.

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I think God is providing the

instructions for protecting the woman

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from being victimized in that regard.

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And I think that's what that.

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And that's a great word.

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Protection.

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This is exactly what God is doing.

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Again, you're, if you read it and

you're offended by it because of your

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modern sensibilities, you just got to

read it with the awareness that God is

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actually protecting the woman in this

case, even though she ends up having

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to marry the guy or vice versa, he

has to marry her because of his sin.

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He's going to protect her.

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He has to now cover her and take

care of her for the rest of his life.

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This would prevent a man from wanting to

do this in the first place, but this would

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also protect her because nobody would

want to marry her after she had this done.

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No fault of her own

but that's the reality.

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And so God protects her by saying, look,

if this does happen, he's going to pay

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the fine and he's going to have to take

care of her for the rest of his life.

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Yeah.

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Think of we see this in

action with Absalom and Tamar.

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There's other problems there as well, but

that's basically what happens afterwards.

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She says don't shame me.

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Don't send me out.

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Like you've got an obligation now to

me and he rejects that and she ends up

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living as a single widow for the rest of

her widow, for lack of a better term, a

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single person for the rest of her life.

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And it's, yeah, it's a tragedy and that's

what we see laid out in the law here.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Chapter 23 though, deals with the

things that I was talking about.

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So who's allowed in, who's not allowed in?

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No it's interesting here.

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No one born of a forbidden

union may enter the assembly.

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So foreigners or a immoral union,

the people, some commentaries

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suggest this is a relationship

between two people that shouldn't

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be having that sort of relationship.

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We'll just put it that way that their

offspring are not allowed to enter.

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You've got eunuchs implied there in verse

one that they're not allowed to enter.

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And even the Ammonites are the

mobile bites in verse three

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there that they're not allowed

to enter to the 10th generation.

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And that's interesting because.

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One of the commentaries I was reading

said it seems like there were some

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exceptions because you do have Ruth,

who's a Moabitess, and she's in the

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line of Christ, the line, right?

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So I don't think this is a blanket

prohibition across the board,

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but that there were some apparent

exceptions in some of these situations.

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We'd have to say evidently not.

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This is clearly what God intended,

even though we're reading it

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and it has a certain flavor.

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We do get a lot of understanding from the

fact that we read how they applied it.

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And Scripture could easily say, and

Israel sinned by bringing Ruth, the

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Moabitess, into the family line.

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You don't read that.

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What you read when you read the

whole of Scripture, which is a

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big, exegetical, important step.

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You have to know the whole of Scripture.

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If you're going to interpret a passage

rightly, you have to have a good

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handle on the rest of the canon.

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Scripture speaks of that event positively.

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Ruth gets her own book.

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Yeah, that's a good thing.

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So when we read this section,

we have to realize, okay, there

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are clear exceptions being made.

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So when I read this, I need to understand

that what God is intending to communicate

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is that ordinarily, if they are Ammonites

and Moabites that are still doing

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their own pagan thing, they're not

allowed even to the 10th generation,

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which probably means forever, right?

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If they become converts, if

they are grafted into Israel

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then that's a different story.

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That's a different story.

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Yep.

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I think that's a great way to look at it.

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Yeah.

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Did you want to comment on the

holiness of the camp during battle?

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I wanted to ask what you thought

or why you thought God says, Hey,

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cover up your stuff in a hole.

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Yeah.

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I think it's being careful in how

one approaches the worship of God.

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The writer of Ecclesiastes

talks about that.

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He says, let us be careful

when we go to worship the Lord.

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Now he's talking about not making rash

vows and with our words and things,

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but I think the idea of the flippancy

and listen, the excrement thing, man,

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I think most people would say that

the circle of people, that they would

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feel comfortable doing that around.

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is very small.

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Probably the matter of

you in the mirror, right?

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So in that instance, I think if there's

shame to do that in front of other people,

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shouldn't there be shame with regards

to doing that in front of the Lord?

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And someone will respond isn't he?

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He says here, interestingly enough,

that he's walking in the camp, right?

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That must mean that there's a special

presence that God is communicating

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to them, usually evidenced by

the tabernacle and the arc of the

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testimony, those kinds of things.

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But it says here he's walking in the

camp and he doesn't want to see anything

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indecent, which is so fascinating to

me because he's the maker, he created

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everything and yet he's calling this

particular and granted, he does that

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with foods and other things as well.

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I just find this so fascinating.

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Yeah, no.

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And it is, except that I think in

being so intentional to be careful

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about this, it's almost, this is weird.

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It almost becomes an act of

worship because you are being

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deferential to the Lord's character

by not being cavalier about even

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this part of your daily routine.

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And yeah it's, Habakkuk says

you're, you are of eyes that are too

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pure to even look on evil, right?

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So Habakkuk says that, and yet

God looks on evil all the time

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because he is omnipresent.

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He's omniscient.

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He's all knowing, right?

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It's not like God is turning a blind

eye and not knowing what's going

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on in some corner of the world.

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When you think about what's going

on in Syria, like I talked about

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on Sunday right now with the

murder of these Christians, that's.

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It's horribly wicked and evil, and

God is very much aware of that.

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And so for Habakkuk to be able to say,

you who are of eyes that are too pure

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to look on evil, I think there's a

sense in which there's looking upon

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something as condoning it or thinking

that this is something acceptable and

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the awareness that God has of all things.

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Is there any modern application that

we could take from something like this?

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I think we need to be careful.

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Yes, we have access at any

time to the Lord, right?

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We can draw near to him to find grace and

help and mercy to help in time of need.

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But I also think we should be

careful about how we approach him and

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thoughtful about how we approach him.

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So that's, that's a flanking act.

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Approach to this text, but I think we

could take away, we want to approach

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him in a way that honors him and

not in a way that in any way treats

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him as common or dishonors him or

would bring shame upon ourselves in

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how we approach him in that regard.

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That's a really good word.

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I like that.

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Careful, thoughtful.

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We don't treat him as common.

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I think the idea here then is for us

to say, insofar as your understanding

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of decency is informed by scripture,

we should seek to have a decent.

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Interaction with the Lord, which I think

does come is communicated by the way

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that we dress by the way that we approach

him The words that we use to talk about

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him When and where we're talking to him

now granted there is an everywhere ness

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to God where we have access, right?

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That's what hebrews chapter 10.

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I think 10 access to the throne of

grace We can go anytime to the father

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and he's willing to receive us But as

we get more mature we ought to think

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about those very same kind of things.

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I man I just think about the reformers

and what luther said I can't okay So

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Luther said, you know what he said,

I know where you're going with this.

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Maybe I won't ask it then maybe

I won't ask Okay Decency, it's it

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is informed in large part by our

culture But yes insofar as your idea

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of decency is formed by scripture.

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You should apply that.

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I'm gonna just go with That's

a good word That's a good word.

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All right.

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Let's pray on that note and then

we'll be done with this episode

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of the daily Bible reading.

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God, we thank you so much for

your word and for his truth.

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We just pray that you'd give us

again, wisdom to understand it.

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And we want to be those that love

justice and we want to be those

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that carry out justice when it's

in our power to be able to do that.

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Lord, we also want to be those that

That are careful in our approach to you.

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And so help us to approach you in a

way that is, is thoughtful in a way

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that brings you honor and certainly

does not dare approach the realm

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of a flippancy or being overly

casual with you or somehow bringing

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you down from your lofty position.

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So we've talked about that.

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I feel like before, Lord, but help us

to find that balance of approaching

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you as your sons and daughters and

yet also approaching you as the

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Lord of the universe to the ideas

that are not competing at all.

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But two ideas that hold weighty

applications for us as your children.

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So God, we need your spirit to help

us to understand how to go about that.

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And we pray this in Jesus name.

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Amen.

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