S9E02-Louise and Greg spent years serving in Australia — Louise in kids' and women's ministry, Greg in database systems with churches, AFES and CMS — before relocating to a large international church in the Middle East with their three young children.

In this episode, they share what it looks like when "database ministry" and frontline gospel work turn out to be deeply connected. Going from a small suburban Aussie church where everyone knows everyone to a church of a thousand people and 90 nationalities – how do you welcome, connect, and disciple everyone who walks through the door?

Louise tells the stories of several people she's discipled: Marina, a South Asian ministry apprentice learning to teach the Bible rather than just "babysit" kids; Anna and her son Samuel, discovering the gospel afresh from a different religious background; and David and Joanne, a husband and wife drawn closer together through wrestling with a tricky Old Testament passage. While, Greg explains his role as executive pastor — building (and sometimes tearing down) the "trellis" of systems and structures that support real gospel growth.